The Breakfast Club - Alicia Garza and Angela Rye Interview

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

Today on the show we had civil rights activist and co founder of the international Black Lives Matter movement Alicia Garza, who spoke about Black Lives Matter, creating the black agenda, dealing with... trauma and grief and more. Also, we had our political pundit Angela Rye call in where she spoke about voting, the final debate and more. Also Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to another Floridian. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone.
Starting point is 00:01:30 The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did
Starting point is 00:01:45 the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records because in order to make history you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is your wake-up call. Wake the fuck up. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:02:20 The show you love to hate. From the East to the West Coast. DJ Envy. Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. The realest show on the planet. This is why I respect this show because this is a voice to society. Changing the game. You guys are the coveted morning show.
Starting point is 00:02:34 But y'all earning it. Impacting the culture. They wake up in the morning and they want to hear that breakfast. The world's most dangerous morning show. We in the mother. We in the mother... Good morning, Angela Yee. Good morning, DJ Envy. Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Peace to the planet. It's Friday. Yes, it's Friday. We are here. We made it to the weekend. How y'all feeling out there? Everybody good? I'm blessed black and highly favored.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah. Crazy, crazy day yesterday. So let me shout out to my daughter. She finally got welcomed to New York City, I guess the right way. What do you mean? She called me up and was like, Dad. I said, what's up? She was like, I just left the restaurant. And she was like,
Starting point is 00:03:33 there was a guy on the corner. I said, let me guess. He was beating his meat. And she was like, how'd you know? So, I described him. She was like, yeah, so he's outside every club, every nightclub, every restaurant. That's the same guy? The same guy. You mean the same dude that used to be in front of the 40-40 club? Yes. He's still around?
Starting point is 00:03:48 He's still around beating his meat. Now, there's no way he needs, he should be in jail. He should be arrested. Like, how do people not report him? People know his face. People might know his hands and his penis. He's been arrested several times. I sent my daughter pictures, and I was like, this is the guy.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And I sent all the time. Yes. You know what's crazy about that dude, man? You know, and this has been going on for a long time, so we used to laugh at him. Clearly, he needs some type of help. He's been up here. What do you mean he's been up here? He has been up here.
Starting point is 00:04:17 He's been to the breakfast club. Yes, he's been to the breakfast club. Why has he been to the breakfast club? Because he manages an artist. And when the artist came up, he was here, and I told him to y'all. Oh, yeah, he definitely got mental health issues. Yes. He needed to be committed.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But he's been locked up several times. He's from the Bronx. He's been locked up in Florida. Do we know his name? I know. I got his pictures mugshot. Yeah, he got to go to jail. Let me see him.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Do not say his name, man. I've only seen him in the dark. Do not say his name. I've only seen him in the dark, and he got a shiny penis. It looks like a gun. I've never seen it. I don't know his face. He needs to go to jail.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I remember when Envy told us that was him up at the studio. And he told both of us. Oh, my gosh, Dad. This is just disgusting. He was just beating his meat. People were walking by. I'm like, yeah, that's what he does. He's been doing that for decades now.
Starting point is 00:05:04 He used to lead a club. That's the guy beating his meat. He'd be going at it. He's got beating his meat. But people walking by, I'm like, yeah, that's what he does. He's been doing that for decades now. He used to lead a club. That's the guy beating his meat. He'd be going at it. He's got some mental health. He's clearly got some mental health issues. Yes. I don't know what that is. I don't know what you would call that.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm not a therapist. I'm just going to see one. But I don't know what you call that, but something's wrong. Then there's got to be no skin on his meat the way he be going. Because he be going. I don't want to have this conversation anymore. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I haven't even had my oatmeal yet. I don't want to have this conversation anymore. All right, but. I haven't even had my oatmeal yet. I haven't had my protein shake, nothing. You just, I'm on an empty stomach and you want to talk about no skin beyond penises?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Jesus Christ. All right. What you wrote on that paper, Drum? He said, world premiere of a record. I don't even know what the record is.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Saweetie? Yes, Saweetie. First of all, when a man talks about a person revealing their meat in the middle of the street masturbating, don't you write on a piece
Starting point is 00:05:44 of paper, world premiere. Okay? We don't know where on a piece of paper, world for me. Okay? We don't know where this is going, Dramos. All right, guy? I'm just trying to do my job over here. We got guests today, too, right? That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Alicia Garza will be joining us this morning. Alicia Garza. What did I say? Alicia? Alicia. I don't know what you just said. Alicia Garza will be joining us. She has an amazing book out right now That I just finished reading
Starting point is 00:06:06 It is called The Purpose of Power Okay And she's one of the founders Of the Black Lives Matter movement She also founded Black Futures Lab Okay I always refer to
Starting point is 00:06:17 A black agenda that she created I think it's very dope A comprehensive black agenda So Alicia is an amazing Amazing person to talk to man And The Purpose of Power is a great book. I'm telling you, it humanizes the Black Lives Matter movement, the Black Lives Matter organization in a way that I've never even thought about.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Right. Black Lives Matter was a topic of the debate last night, too. All right, we'll get into debate up next. And also, Angela Rye will be joining us this morning. My sister, AR40. About to be AR41. Angela Rye joining us. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So, we'll kick it with all them and front page news. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get into this world premiere. Who is it now? Saweetie and Jhene Aiko. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:06:56 We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. The Giants played last night. They did. I didn't even know football was on last night. It shouldn't have been on. Who did play? Played the Philadelphia Eagles.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Oh, my God. That was a game that should not have happened now. In this era of coronavirus and everybody trying to social distance and not be away from each other, we don't need no NFC East teams playing against each other. I lost money, too. That game should not have happened. I lost $100 betting on the Giants.
Starting point is 00:07:22 But anyway, they was up. They was up to the fourth quarter. They was up two touchdowns to the fourth quarter. I woke up this morning and I see they lost. I thought they had it. They lost 21-22. What else we talking about, Yee? Well, let's talk about the debate last night, of course.
Starting point is 00:07:36 This is the second debate for Biden and Trump. And, you know, they had the muting of the microphones for the first two minutes. I think that helped. Donald Trump was a lot calmer. His hands were going crazy, but he wasn't as, what would I say, combative as he was in the first debate. Now, one thing that they did discuss was Black Lives Matter, which I just told you. Listen to this. The first time I ever heard of Black Lives Matter, they were chanting,
Starting point is 00:08:03 pigs in a blanket, talking about police. Pigs, pigs, talking about our police. Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. I said, that's a horrible thing. And they were marching down the street. And that was my first glimpse of Black Lives Matter. I thought it was a terrible thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I was watching after the debate. Joanne Reed said she was actually covering that march and no one was saying that. That's not even true. I mean, I don't know if it was that much, but it was definitely a march where it was a it was a group of people who had infiltrated BLM. And they were definitely marching down the street saying that because that's that's I've heard that video myself. But that don't necessarily I've always said that doesn't represent what Black Lives Matter is about and what Black Lives Matter stands for. Just because you got some bad apples in that organization. And when you hear Alicia Garza talk about it, everybody can claim Black Lives Matter.
Starting point is 00:08:52 That doesn't mean they are part of that organization. Now, another thing that Donald Trump was talking about was Corona virus. Here is Biden and Trump on Corona virus. He says that we're you know, we're learning to live with it. People are learning to die with it. You folks home will have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning. That man or wife going to bed tonight and reaching over to try to touch their out of habit where their wife or husband was is gone. We're dying with it because he has never said, you see, you said it's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:09:22 When's the last time? Is it really dangerous still? And you say, I take no responsibility. Let me talk about your team. Excuse me. I take full responsibility. It's not my fault that he came here. It's China's fault. I tell you what, man.
Starting point is 00:09:37 If I didn't know what fascism looks like, and I didn't understand the severity of Trump having control of all the federal courts, the DOJ, if I didn't understand that a president can't really get anything done without having control of all the federal courts, the DOJ, if I didn't understand that a president can't really get anything done without having control of the Senate and the House, if Senator Harris wasn't on the ticket, I would probably write in this year I'll vote third party because both those guys are trash. Okay, they represent what's wrong
Starting point is 00:09:56 with America. An old white male politician and his boss, an old rich white man. I didn't like nothing I saw last night, to be totally honest with you. Nope. Now, when it comes to immigration, you know, there are 545 children who have not been reunited with their that are still they can't figure out how to get their them back together with their family. And here's what Donald Trump had to say about the children at the border. The United States can't locate the parents of more than 500 children. So how will these families ever be reunited?
Starting point is 00:10:27 Children are brought here by coyotes and lots of bad people, cartels. And they're brought here and they used to use them to get into our country. We now have as strong a border as we've ever had. And we let people in, but they have to come in legally and they come in through. But how will you reunite these kids with their families, Mr. President? They built cages. Do you have a plan to reunite the kids? Yes, we're working on it very, we're trying very hard.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Who built the cages, though? That was a question that didn't get answered last night. Trump said the Obama administration built those cages, and he kept asking Joe, who built the cages? Joe couldn't answer. I will say this, though. We'll say with Obama, they were not separating young children from their parents and their families and not being able to reunite them. Donald Trump said these kids are being treated very well. And I'm sure they'd much rather be with their families than separated.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I'm not making no excuses for either one of them. I think all of them got dirt on their hands. And you see that last night. Both of them trying to throw mud at each other when they both corrupt. I personally think so. Well, that is your front page news. And you know what else, too? The way Trump sounds trying to defend COVID is how Biden sounds trying to defend the 94 crime bill.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I don't know. I really don't anymore. All right. Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Phone lines are open. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:11:53 The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Starting point is 00:12:25 The Waikana tribe, my country, my forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.
Starting point is 00:12:40 We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with
Starting point is 00:13:05 celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all.
Starting point is 00:13:47 It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family
Starting point is 00:14:08 friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Hey y'all. Nemany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or, I'm calling from Florida. Oh, okay. I see the Carolina number pop up. All right, but get it off your chest, mama. I'm sorry you're calling from Florida. Yeah, Florida.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Okay, y'all are talking about something that Biden did 30 years ago. Oh, my God. Stop it. We're not going to have this conversation. You know why? Let the lady speak. Because people are still in jail for the 94 crime bill now. Let the lady speak.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Now, y'all, okay, President Trump's an idiot. I already know that. Very true. His bill that he has passed for taxes cover all the rich people, but it's going to end for all the poor people. 30 years ago? I mean, come on. I was in the 90s. The 94 crime bill.
Starting point is 00:16:19 People are still in prison for the 94 crime bill now. What are we talking about? Did they commit a crime? Low level drug offenses? A dime bag of weed? A 20 year rock hit you 30 years? I will say that Joe Biden has said that it was a mistake. No, he said that it was a mistake that black people asked him to do.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Is the difference between saying something was a mistake and that you made a mistake? It's a difference between saying something was a mistake and that you made a mistake. It's a big difference. Back in the 90s, he used to call it the Biden crime bill. Now, 30 years later, people on his ass about it, it's not the Biden crime bill anymore. It was something black people wanted him to do.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But didn't everybody support it back then? In the 90s, when crack was a problem, yeah, it should have been a bill. Period. I mean, a lot of people did support the 94 crime bill. A lot of black people did support it also. A lot of black people did not support the 94 crime bill as well.
Starting point is 00:17:14 A lot of black people pushed back against the 94 crime bill and told people what was going to happen. But listen, I'm voting for Biden-Harris regardless, but I'm not going to sit here and act like I like either candidate. I don't like either one either. That's all I'm saying. You should make a decision for an adult human being. God's everybody's free will.
Starting point is 00:17:31 So let's not argue. Let's not argue. Yes, let's not argue about white men that really don't give a damn about either one of us this morning. Okay? That is true, but we've got to pick one or the other. I told you I'm picking. Well, I'm voting for Senator Kam the other. I told you I'm picking.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Well, I'm voting for Senator Kamala Harris. That's what I'm voting for. Thank you, Mama. Hello, who's this? What's up, man? This is DG. I'm from the 757. What up, brother?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Get off your chest. Hey, man. The other day, I was at work, man. I sharted on myself, man. Congratulations. Oh, man. We've all been there, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:00 That's good luck, bro. I've been there before. Hey, look, man. Everybody follow me on Instagram, KingDG, K-I-N-G. So, time out. You're going to say that, and then you want us to follow you. That's what he wanted to get off his chest.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I respect it. Yeah, man. I had to let everybody know, man. I'm a sharder. Why didn't you post it on the gram? I tried to, but they blocked me, man. They didn't want to see all that. What did you do?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Did you go home? You tried to post it? After you shard it? No, when I was at work, I just wiped it off my butt, put a little dab of water to it, and I kept going. And you got them dirty-ass underwear on? No, I took them off and just free-balled. All right, your nickname from now on is Shardy Lowe, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Shardy Lowe. Yeah, you got to tell everybody. Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent or you need to shark, call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I'm telling. I'm telling. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm telling. I'm calling. I'm calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed.
Starting point is 00:19:02 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Telling people to your point right there. Hello, who's this? Yo, Butterscotch, Bud Envy, Big Chocolate to Toast. How we doing, kid? Hey, Big Chocolate to Toast, y'all. What up?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Listen, I got to get off my chest and thank Molly from White Plains, New York. Love your toes. I got to thank Foxwoods Casino, Mohegan Sun Casino made some money, and Connecticut had a good time. And Charlamagne, I'm going to buy you lunch today. I'm going to buy you a little turkey sandwich with toe jam, and that'll fill your belly, okay?
Starting point is 00:19:35 You can stop talking about the man's meat. All right. Speaking of meat. All right. Oh, my. Hello, who's this? It's like Derek, but with a T. Tarek.
Starting point is 00:19:47 What's up, Tarek? Yes, sir. What's up, man? This dream come true. Y'all don't understand, man. I'm from Kansas. Kansas City, Kansas. The 913.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Shout out to everybody in Wyandotte County. Mad love. So much to go off my chest, man. I listen to y'all every morning. First of all, how y'all doing? Good morning, guys. I'm blessed black and highly favored. How are you, sir? I'm good, man.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I caught y'all. This is rare. Y'all don't answer Kansas phone calls. What's up with that? No, well, we not in Kansas anymore, sir. Anything else, sir? I got a lot. Uh, I got your first book, Charlamagne, but let me get that second one, please.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Can you get that one sent to me? You know what? I can send you that, and I can send you a copy of Rita Walker's book, The Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health. I had a bunch of copies. Yes, sir. I bought like 100 copies of Dr. Rita's book,
Starting point is 00:20:35 and I had them up here for a while. I need to start sending those out. I don't know why I haven't done that. People need that, especially around this time. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm going to get your address from our producer. Daniel, leave your address. One more sir. Yes, sir. I'm going to get your address from our producer. Daniel, leave your address.
Starting point is 00:20:47 One more thing. One more thing. Oh, okay. I'm trying to get into modeling. I look good. I look real good. Oh, boy. So my Instagram is the numerical number one,
Starting point is 00:20:58 and then my name, Tarek, T as in Tom, E-R-R-I-K. Taylor's looking it up We're gonna tell you If you're handsome or not How you look Taylor Well that drama What's how you look I'm not looking it up You know for Kansas
Starting point is 00:21:12 Boy I'm decent Damn what you saying There's mad ugly people In Kansas They all look like Dorothy's dog Toto Hey man
Starting point is 00:21:19 Hey I gotta live here I ain't gonna say nothing I like Kansas Alright brother Have a good one. Love you, y'all. Love you, too, King.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Love you back. Get it off your chest. What do you look like, Taylor? 585- Modern material. Charlamagne, you interested? Let me see. He could definitely be an extra in a Tyler Perry movie, for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:38 All right. For sure. We got rumors on the way? Yes, and let's talk about The Rock. Are you ready to see Young Rock? We'll tell you about it. All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. I'll be riding in the car and be like, I can't believe this song's on the radio. No? That's a lie. There's been a lot of worse songs than this. No, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I'm with you. I'm just old now. So I'll be riding. I'll be like, I can't believe this is on the radio. It has been some songs worse than the WAP song. I don't remember those songs playing on the radio, though. What? You don't? I don't remember Akanele put it in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I remember that one about Wait till you see my... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. All them songs. You're right. Wait till you see my... You're right. Alright, well, let's get to the rumors. Let's talk The Rock. Maybe the clean version were just better.
Starting point is 00:22:27 That's what it was. Rumor report. This is the rumor report. Talk to Angela Yee. That's what it was. The clean versions were just better back then. That's all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:38 That's what it was. All right. Well, yesterday, The Rock made an announcement on Instagram. He said, my fellow Americans, Young Rock has officially begun filming. Our new wildly funny and unbelievable show for NBC explores my true life events during my formative years from growing up in the surreal and tough world of pro wrestling to being a broke kleptomaniac to hanging out in honky tonks at 15 years old in Nashville and deciding I was going to be an outlaw country singer. Was he born with pecs? Did he come out the womb with trash muscles? To winning the national championship
Starting point is 00:23:10 at the University of Miami, the baddest boys college football has ever seen, period. What a fun and wild show and can't wait to deliver it to you guys in 2021. Was the rock a little diesel ass baby? I don't know. What did he look like when he was that young? Sound a little jealous. But they are going to be debuting
Starting point is 00:23:26 this on NBC. All right. Kodak Black in the meantime has announced a new album and docuseries is coming and it is called Bill is Real. So even though he is still in jail and he can't personally send out messages to his fans, he's been relaying statements to everybody through his friends
Starting point is 00:23:42 and through his attorney. So they did announce Bill is Real, which is his upcoming project. They said details are scarce, but it looks like it'll be a docuseries there as well. How much time does Kodak Black have? That's a good question. He seems like he's been here for a minute. I know.
Starting point is 00:23:57 They just moved him to a new facility. He's been having all kinds of issues. I don't even remember the charges. Me neither. I don't even remember. You know, he said he was being tortured behind bars. He was being abused. According to Kodak Black, guards gave him a gang beating after he arrived.
Starting point is 00:24:16 They said that, he says they've been violating his rights and that led to his mouth bleeding, vomiting, lacerations, all these things. So, you know, more Kodak Black. All right, I Love New York is coming back. You guys like Tiffany Pollard? You excited to see her come back to TV?
Starting point is 00:24:32 I think Tiffany New York Pollard is one of the most talented reality show people ever. Is there a but? No. There will be a one-hour reunion special. I Love New York reunited. Do people care, though? It seems like that hasn't been on TV for a long time. People love New York still to this day, man.
Starting point is 00:24:49 New York is iconic to some people. My homegirl, Courtney, loves Tiffany Pollard. Okay. And she has Brunch with Tiffany already, that show on VH1. I did that. Where she interviews people. Yeah, I did that show with her back in the day. Yeah, so there you have it.
Starting point is 00:25:05 So we can see that as well. All right, now Bubba Wallace's new NASCAR team has a Michael Jordan-inspired team name, number, and logo. So the team was named 2311 in reference to the jersey number that Jordan wore while playing in the NBA and the number 11 car that the other owner actually Hamlin has raced with for the past 14 seasons. So that is the team 2311. But it's like Roman is 23. And then the Roman numerals 11 just FYI. And yes, all right. Well, I'm Angela Yee. And that is your
Starting point is 00:25:39 rumor report. All right. Thank you, Miss Yee. Now we got front page news coming up. What are we talking about? Yes, we have to get more into the debate that went down last night. We'll give you some more info on what was said about other things like coronavirus and healthcare and all of that. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Starting point is 00:26:18 Good morning, everybody. It's D.J. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Thank God it's Friday, too, man. Thank God it is Friday. I am really looking forward to doing nothing. You and me freaking both. Nothing tonight. Nothing is my favorite thing to do.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And you know what I like to do nothing with? Some wine and some edibles. Okay? Wow. That's right. All right. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But y'all don't drink and do drugs? Let's get in some front page news. I'm the only one? Y'all don't judge me. I'm doing this for real. Mm-hmm. some front page news. I'm the only one? Y'all don't judge me. I'm in this room. All right. Now, you want to talk football? We ain't got to talk football.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Giants lost. That's all you need to know. I lost $100. Why would you bet on the Giants? Seriously. Why would you bet on the Giants? I made the bet. I know that's your team, but why? I made the bet before the season started.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Oh, okay, okay. So it was like one of those things that was like, all right, we might be all right, and then we just weren't all right, and I couldn't take the bet back, so. NFL, cancel. So it was like one of those things I was like, we might be I and then we just weren't I and I couldn't take the bet back so. NFL cancel all NFC East games. This is coming from a Dallas Cowboy fan. I think Cowboys fans, Redskins fans, Giants fans, Eagles fans can all agree. Cancel all
Starting point is 00:27:15 NFC East games because of COVID. I'm with you. Alright, well, what else we talking about, Yee? Pointless social gatherings. Let's talk about the debate last night. What did you guys think about the moderator, Kristen Welker? I thought she did a great job. Phenomenal job. But you know why, though?
Starting point is 00:27:29 Because the- They muted the candidate's microphone. Not only that, but both of the candidates, well, at least Trump. Trump was even-tempered. Trump wasn't in his Trump bag last night. He was more stable than we probably have ever seen him. Because you can't really blame those moderators for the first two debates, man. Those guys are out of control. All control all right well let's discuss what
Starting point is 00:27:48 happened now of course the 94 crime bill comes up and here is what happened in the 80s we passed 100 all 100 senators voted for it a bill on drugs and how to deal with drugs it was a mistake i've been trying to change the sense and particularly the portion on cocaine. That's why I've been arguing that in fact, we should not send anyone to jail for a pure drug offense. They should be going into treatment. That's what we've been trying to do. That's what I'm going to get done. Because I think the American people have now seen that in fact, it was a mistake to pass those laws relating to the drug. But they were not in the crime bill. You had eight years to get it done.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Now you're saying you're going to get it done because you're all talk and no action. We got a lot of it done. We released 38,000 prisoners left from the house. You got nothing done. You know, the way Trump sounds trying to defend his response to coronavirus is how Biden sounds trying to defend the 94 crime bill. It was a mistake, but was it your mistake? Because back in the day, you called it the Biden crime bill. You took full responsibility for it.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Now you blame it on other people and say other people wanted you to do it. And it was just a mistake. Imagine you cheat on your girl and you say it was a mistake. My boys told me to do it. You think that's going to fly? What can he say now? You apologize and you show legislation and you make policy commitments to rectify the situation. This is what I'm going to do moving forward.
Starting point is 00:29:13 This X, Y, and Z. These things. This is what I'm going to do. Right. I think that's what he did try to say is that moving forward, that's why he, you know, it was a mistake. These are the parts that were a mistake. And here's what we're trying to do moving forward. And Donald Trump saying you didn't do those things that whole time that
Starting point is 00:29:26 you were in office. Another thing that Donald Trump is always having to defend is his taxes. I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. We learned that this president paid 50 times the tax in China as has a secret bank account with China, does business in China, and in fact is talking about me taking money? Number two, this is a president, I have released all of my tax returns, 22 years, go look at them. You have not released a single solitary year of your tax return. What are you hiding? Why are you unwilling? The foreign countries are paying you a lot. Russia's paying you a lot. China's paying you a lot. All right. Now, another thing that comes up was Donald Trump was talking about Hunter Biden and
Starting point is 00:30:18 the whole Ukraine investigation. Here's what he said. Very quickly. His son didn't have a job for a long time, was sadly no longer in the military service. I won't get into that. And he didn't have a job. As soon as he became vice president, Burisma, not the best reputation in the world, I hear they paid him $183,000 a month. And they gave him a $3 million upfront payment.
Starting point is 00:30:41 All right. And he had no energy. I'm going to let the vice president respond to that quickly, and then I need to get to a question to you. No basis for that. Everybody investigated that. No one said anything he did was wrong in Ukraine. You know why those attacks don't work on Biden? Because Trump is trying to question somebody's character. Because of Trump, nobody cares about character. Trump ripped up the playbook on character. You don't care. Well, Aubrey O'Day took to her page on social media and said, since Trump has now lowered this debate to trashing family,
Starting point is 00:31:09 Don Jr. hates his father. Ivanka is a lesbian on the low. Eric F. Miss Universe on the apprentice board home table while with his now wife. All right. He said, it's not about my family or your family. It's about your family, points to the American people. Talk to your country, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And while we're at it, I have texts of Don Jr. telling me what a little ish-hole Barron is. They were on the private jet and Barron didn't like his food, so he threw the plate across the plane at the attendant. None of these people are innocent of being a-holes and liars. That's the tea I was missing last night. That's what I'm really upset
Starting point is 00:31:42 about. Last night was boring as hell. You know what I'm saying? I sat there, had my snacks. We're getting ready to see some action. And they both want to be stable. You know what I'm saying? Isn't that what you want from your president? No! Not when it's a reality show star on stage.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I want a reality show, god damn it. My goodness. All right. You didn't? Yes, I did. Exactly. Where was the flies? I had to go back to the Giants game.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Right up with you. Where was the flies? Where was the... It wasn't entertaining go back to the Giants game. Where was the flies? It wasn't entertaining last night. All right. All right. Well, that's your Front Page News. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Now, when we come back, Alicia Garza will be joining us. Oh, man, I love Alicia Garza. She's one of the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement. She has a new book out called The Purpose of Power. All right. And it really does humanize the Black Lives Matter movement and the Black Lives Matter organization in a real way. It's a great read. Alright, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:32:30 The Breakfast Club. Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag and just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson the First, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? Be part of a great colonial tradition. What could go wrong? I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.
Starting point is 00:33:18 We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've
Starting point is 00:34:39 been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimany, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimany here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama
Starting point is 00:35:31 who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Did you know, did you know, I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was called a moment. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Alicia Garza. Good morning. That's right. One of the founders of the Black Lives Matter movement, and she has a new book out called The Purpose of Power, How We Come Together When We Fall Apart. That is a very powerful title, Alicia. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And you know, our sister Angela helped inspire me around this title. She and I were going off about what's going on in the elections. Angela Rye. Yes, Angela Rye. Need I say any more? Anywho, we were talking about really the need for our movements to better understand what it is that we're fighting for. We're not fighting for seats, cabinet positions, anything like that. We're fighting for power. And so the purpose of power became the title of this book.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Can we go back to the Black Lives Matter movement? And you're one of the founders. Can we start how that was founded? I mean, Black Lives Matter really comes out of the murder of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of George Zimmerman in his murder. But it's much bigger than police violence. And I think so much of what people know about Black Lives Matter is policing, right?
Starting point is 00:37:20 And the protests that people see on TV or that they attend themselves. But I can say that one of the reasons i wrote this book honestly is because very few people know about the offline work that goes into social change and so that's what i talk about in the book and it's important to know that it's not all glamorous work right a lot of times we see these celebrities or people who are just using different platforms to speak on things. But there's a lot more that goes into starting a movement and organizing than just being on a platform or starting a hashtag. So that's something that you also address in your book and how you
Starting point is 00:37:56 were raised and how that plays a role in how you even started becoming this organizer, right? So can you talk about how your background and your family, your mother in particular, actually encouraged you? I sure will. And thank you for saying that, because honestly, that is a big thing that people don't know is that it's not glamorous work and that the work is hard. And, you know, so many people, I think, see what's happening on social media and they think, you know, oh, I want to start a hashtag so I can start a movement so that I can have a lot of followers. And I talk about in the book how that's actually not what we're fighting for. And that's not what is going to create
Starting point is 00:38:37 change. Hashtags don't start movements. People do. And I say this in the book. And what I try to do in this book is talk about how it is that people start movements. For me, myself, the first kind of lesson that I ever got in politics was from my mom, who passed away a couple of years ago. And I really learned from her that dignity and survival is at the core of everything that we are fighting for and at the core of everything that we do. She fundamentally believed that we are all each other's responsibility and that everybody should have the right to live with dignity. You did a great job of humanizing BLM and the purpose of power. Not just BLM, but in particular yourself, Patrice, and Opal.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Not just personally, but the movement itself. In Chapter 11, Voting Can Be a Movement, very timely chapter for right now. You actually questioned BLM and admitted that y'all didn't have a clear set of demands to take on the campaign trail and y'all didn't hold Hillary Clinton accountable for her role in mass incarceration. Do you think the movements have done a better job this time around, this election cycle doing that? Yeah, I mean, I think we're learning a lot. In 2016, yes. I think our movements, and this isn't just limited to BLM, as I say in the book, but our movements are relatively ambivalent about elections. And I understand why. You and I have talked about this a ton, right? People don't feel like these
Starting point is 00:40:05 processes actually deliver the things that we need. And in a lot of ways, they're right. But some of the thing that happens here is that we haven't figured out what our engagement looks like that's on our terms and not their terms. And so lots of people don't know that, for example, even though we decided not to endorse a candidate, and I think that was still the right decision, we were also engaging with candidates behind the scenes. We were calling for a Black Lives Matter debate from the DNC and got shut down promptly by Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who then ultimately got ousted because it looked like she was trying to rig the process for Hillary Clinton. We had campaign conversations with their staff people, policy campaign discussions where, you know, when they were starting to talk about trans rights and they were starting to talk about education, that's because they were getting pushed by BLM. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:41:03 when it became clear that this election was going to go in a certain direction and everybody's voice needed to be unified, we couldn't show up for that. And that wasn't just a question of our movement. It was a question of many movements who were engaging thousands and thousands and sometimes millions of people, but not putting out a clear message about how we approach these stages and how we both hold the contradiction of nothing's going to change without us, right? But they're going to keep going without us, even if we don't participate. So we might as well throw in and get our influence in the mix. And you also created with some research, tons of research, a black agenda.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And I see a lot of people coming up with their black agendas now. Can you talk about your black agenda? This agenda, and you can find it at blacktothefuture.org. This agenda is not the radical agenda. It is the Black unity agenda. And it's something that we've been pushing for the last year, trying to get this adopted by campaigns, trying to get it adopted by political parties. But frankly, what we're doing is we're changing rules in cities and states using this agenda. We've already organized 70,000 Black voters around this agenda. And we
Starting point is 00:42:23 know that 70,000 black voters are using this agenda right now as they're making decisions up and down the ballot. So, you know, for folks who are listening and you want to get involved, we are using this agenda as an organizing tool to change the rules that have been rigged against us for generations. And we're also training our people how to write, win and design the rules. So we're not just asking people to give us stuff. We're actually trying to change the balance of power and the Black Agenda 2020 is the first step. What's the three biggest things that you've seen that you would say that people wanted? You know, Charlamagne, you were so great yesterday on Don Lemon.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I was listening because I was in the segment after you. I'm inspired by people like you. You just made it clear. You said, look, we want to understand and we want to get better and stronger around our economics. And that was the number one issue that kept black folks up at night in the black census was wages that were too low to support a family. And then, of course, followed by other safety net issues that also have to do with wealth. And we didn't just look at problems in the agenda. We looked at solutions. And the majority of people in our survey said that number one, they don't believe that politicians care about us or our families. Number two, that when it comes to policing and police violence,
Starting point is 00:43:43 that we want police to be held accountable when they commit crimes in our communities. And number three, what people said was that they want government to take more of a role in being responsible for everyone. So right now, the way that people see government is that it's only geared towards people who are wealthy and people who are white. And what our folks said was, you know, that has to change. We need to start making people pay their fair share if you make over a certain amount of money. We have to make sure that government, right, is really establishing a floor and a baseline
Starting point is 00:44:17 for everybody's human dignity. All right, we have more with Alicia Garza. When we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Alicia Garza. Charlamagne?
Starting point is 00:44:34 I want to ask a question. 13 days to the election. You know, you got the black census. You got your black agenda. Whose agenda is more in line with the black census in your agenda? Is it the lift every voice plan or the platinum plan by Donald Trump? Okay. Well, without question, it's the lift every voice plan. The platinum plan is in one page. He had to keep it simple because there's nothing in there. But I'm also going to say, just to be honest, that lift every voice plan needs a lot of work. And we have been fighting
Starting point is 00:45:06 for the last eight months to get this campaign to really hone in on the nuances of what Black communities need. I think in some ways, and I'm just going to be super honest here, I think they're used to engaging like a very established framework when it comes to dealing with black communities. And that doesn't match the times that we're in. And if the man who's in charge stays in charge, he plans to be in charge for a very long time. It ain't no four year cycle. That's right. Another cycle.
Starting point is 00:45:38 So we got to handle this bird right now. And then we keep pushing. And I will tell you, you know, I say in the book as well that elections are not about personalities. It's not about how who you would have over for dinner. I don't think I would want Joe Biden over at my house for dinner. We'll tell you this. It's about picking the terrain I want to fight on and the terrain I want to fight on will allow me to fight for another day. And if this man stays president, we don't have that terrain and we may not be able to fight another day. So it's super clear to me. I hope it's clear to everybody who's listening too. What are your thoughts on engaging though? Like, let's just say, cause we've seen
Starting point is 00:46:18 people say, look, you don't know who's going to be in power. You should engage with whoever that person is in order to create change instead of saying, okay, I don't know who's going to be in power. You should engage with whoever that person is in order to create change instead of saying, OK, I don't support that person. I won't engage. What are your thoughts on that? I think we're mixing up a lot of things. So, number one, absolutely, it's important to engage with people who are in power. But we also have to do that with a clear set of eyes.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And engaging with Donald Trump, it's not an ideological thing. It's a practical thing. And what he has shown over and over again is that he is not for black people and that when he does actually talk about black folks, it's really just to enrich himself. We can take the First Step Act, for example, right? He did a lot. There was a lot of hoopla around how he was the one who pushed the first, you know first criminal justice reform plan from the Republican side. But I can say this, he also talked a bunch of crap about it. And he only uses it when he wants to talk to Black folks about why we should suspend our disbelief and
Starting point is 00:47:21 actually suspend what we see right in front of our eyes and maybe think about voting for him. I understand our desire for change. And I think that the way that we make change is through organizing. What are your thoughts on Joe Biden? I know you said you wouldn't invite him to your house for dinner, but what are your thoughts as a person to him and as a president, if he's elected? A lot of people don't seem to necessarily care for him and care more for Kamala Harris. So what are your thoughts on Biden? And don't look up like that. She's in deep thought. How can I answer this without getting people not not not wanting to vote? I mean, look, I'm sure he's a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:48:04 The way that I approach politicians and whether it be people I really like or whether I don't like them, is about the policies that they move forward. And, you know, I'm clear about what I need to be doing in this cycle, but it doesn't mean I can't be critical of this person. And at the same time, he has expected support from our community and frankly has gotten it without very many demands. My Congresswoman is actually, it's a lot different. She got put into Congress on an anti-war mandate. That's just the kind of flavor of where we're from.
Starting point is 00:48:44 But I can tell you what, if she strayed from that, it would be a problem and she would be contested in her elections. And she understands that. She also has a deep sense of accountability to her community. And that's what I think politics needs to look like. It doesn't look like that right now, but it won't look like that if we don't fight for it to look like that. So that's why we do the work we do at the Black to the Future Action Fund and the Black Futures Lab. Chapter 13 in The Purpose of Power. That was one that touched me too. Imposter syndrome and the patriarchy.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And you describe yourself as a survivor of imposter syndrome. I've never looked at it like that. Break that down for me. Well, imposter syndrome is really the notion that you don't belong here, that you're not good enough. Right. And really successful people have imposter syndrome. Part of the fight that I engage in every single day, among many, is being seen as capable, intelligent, worthy, right? Not just from myself, but from others. And even in terms of this movement, you know, Patrice and Opal and I, and so many other activists in this movement, have encountered things that are indescribable. And yet at the same time, it doesn't matter how much
Starting point is 00:50:08 I do here, people are always going to look for the man who's leading. They're always going to be waiting for the next coming of Martin Luther King. And that is something that I needed to point out here because we can't reach what we're trying
Starting point is 00:50:24 to reach if we continue to try and repeat eras that no longer exist. For me, I really wanted people to better understand what is the consequence, right, of the stories that we tell ourselves and each other about what successful movements look like, what successful leaders look like, right? And the impact that we have on the change that we see. It's not a competition between men and women. It's really about equity and equality and how can we encourage all of us to step forward and to take ownership of our accomplishments while also giving shine to other folk. I think we can do all those things at the same time. The reason I love that chapter, though, is because I've never looked at it as surviving
Starting point is 00:51:16 imposter syndrome. You know, for me, you know, I've definitely suffered from imposter syndrome. But when I when I finally got to that place where I felt like I was over it, I felt like I was getting to a place of worthy. Right. I was, I felt worthy to be in the position that I'm in. So I wonder what happens when you don't survive imposter syndrome. Well, when you don't survive imposter syndrome, you stop striving, right? You stop striving, you stop glowing, you stop shining. And frankly, you stop trying, you stop creating, you stop innovating. And the reason I put this chapter in the book is because I wanted to expose that. I wanted to show us that in a lot
Starting point is 00:51:53 of ways, we're cutting off our nose to spite our face. We need to build a movement in the millions. And that means we need all the talent, all the creativity, but we also have to break down these ways of relating to each other that are deeply, deeply unhealthy and they lead to self-hate, right, that we have to learn how to engage our pain and our trauma in such a way where we don't tear each other up and we don't eat each other alive from the inside. We're in an intersection where we have to give care to the things that need to die away, right? All the ways in which our society and our economy is organized that don't serve us. We need to give care to it to wither away. But then we also need to give care to the things that we're trying to birth. And I think we're in an unprecedented moment where we get to do both at the same time. All right, well, don't move.
Starting point is 00:53:00 We got more with Alicia Goss. And when we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Run that back turbo. You can get the biggest Chanel back in the store if you want it. I gave them the drip. They set it up. I got them on it.
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Starting point is 00:53:30 Whenever it's smoke, we ain't running. Drip too hard, don't stand too close. You gon' run around off this way. Doing all these shows, I've been on the road. I don't care where I go, long as I get paid. Bad lil' vibe, she been on my mind. Soon as I get back, she can slay. Do this all the time, this ain't no surprise. We'll be right back. She been on my mind. Soon as I get back, she can slay. Do this all the time. This ain't no surprise. Every other night, another movie getting made.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Every other night, another dollar getting made. Every other night, started with a good day. I feel like a child. I got boogers in the face. I've been dancing in the dollar. This is a parade. I don't want your train. I'm going on another sleigh.
Starting point is 00:54:18 I had that job that I took me. And these bitches getting saved. TSA arrested me, so I took a private plane. These bitches like I'm walking on my own. You're too hard. Charge to the car. To the ground. I can barely spell the name. You're too hard. We'll be right back. Morning, everybody. on my mind. As soon as I get back, she can do this all the time. This ain't no surprise. Every other night, another movie can make. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:55:09 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Alicia Garza. Charlamagne. Chapter 17 was another one. Platforms, pedestals,
Starting point is 00:55:18 and profiles. I texted you last night to tell you that that chapter moved me spiritually because you break down exactly what a person should be using their platform for. And you ask a question, which I think everyone with a platform should ask themselves, for what and for whom are you building a platform and
Starting point is 00:55:33 profile? Could you elaborate on that question? I mean, for me, my purpose is to make black communities powerful in every aspect of our lives. And I have chosen to focus on the realm of politics in order to do that. I have encountered a lot of people in this movement, not just like BLM, right? But in the movement work that I have done, especially in the last decade, where I think the reason that people are in it is because they want to be close to celebrities. They want to have a massive social media platform. They want millions of people to follow them. They want to be seen.
Starting point is 00:56:13 And that's a very human desire, but it's not in the service of movement, right? That's in the service of yourself. And if you want to be a celebrity, there's nothing wrong with that necessarily. But that is not compatible with the aims and goals of a movement. It doesn't matter if you have a million Twitter followers, you can have five and still do the work. Exactly. And I find that I'll look on because right now it's so easy to spread false information, you know, and I see that you've worked with a lot of different organizations. You worked with Planned Parenthood, correct? That's correct. And I always hear people say really negative things about Planned Parenthood. So I just wanted you to talk about Planned Parenthood. I see you're doing something with Cicero Richards, who used to be the president
Starting point is 00:56:57 of Planned Parenthood. So if you could just talk about your experience there and why you think Planned Parenthood is beneficial for our community. Sure. You know, I talk in the book about my history with Planned Parenthood. I, in college, learned about the role that Margaret Sanger played, not just in that organization, let's be clear, but in the movement around reproductive rights. And what Margaret Sanger was fighting for was the ability of white women to determine when and where they wanted to start families. And when it came to women of color and poor women and immigrant women,
Starting point is 00:57:35 she didn't believe that our families were fit to reproduce. And so she was at the same time a reproductive rights crusader. She was at the same time a member of the eugenics movement. And that's not about Planned Parenthood. That's about a movement, right, that allows for that kind of bifurcation where white women can get access to things, right? Black women and women of color and immigrant women and poor women, right? Get the short end of the stick. With that being said, I talk in the book about how all of our lives have been shaped by an incredibly powerful conservative movement. And that, you know, part of what that has looked like is policy wars and culture wars. And then what happens is because we have a rightful distrust
Starting point is 00:58:27 of the information that we hear, we buy into their narrative easily because it's anti-establishment. And now over the last few years, they've been testing on our communities how it is that they can make inroads. It's not good for them, for their movement to be seen as an all-white movement. So they want to break off segments of our communities. And some of the core things that they use are conversations around healthcare, which is how Planned Parenthood gets involved, and conversations about Black Lives Matter. And the danger here, right, is that we have to figure out, number one, how it is that we control and shape our own stories and how we have the apparatus to disseminate those stories. So shout out to you, Charlemagne, for building this huge platform, right, around getting
Starting point is 00:59:18 Black voices out there into the world. But we also have to be able to call out and hold accountable those who try to manipulate us into doing things that don't actually benefit the majority of our communities. It's very distorted. Like, even if we look at Black Lives Matter, I mean, I've heard it's anti-law. I've heard it's anti-whites. I heard it's a terrorist organization. Anti-police. I've heard all of that, you know. And what do you say to people that just really don't understand? Because especially mostly white people, when they hear Black Lives Matter, it's like kryptonite. They all of a sudden they start covering their face. They start running. They get so mad.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yeah. So what do you say to that? Because a lot of that information is distorted and all wrong. We've been pretty transparent and pretty clear about what we're for from the very beginning. You know, on days when I'm feeling okay, I try to put the attacks that we get from the president and Rudy Giuliani and, you know, all the ways in which we get used as political footballs. I try to put that aside and put it into the bigger picture because they don't have a record to stand on. They attack us directly around our record. And I would stand for our record any day. So our team, the Movement for Black Lives, Black Lives Matter, and so many other entities introduced the BREATHE Act, right? Which is our generation's version of the Civil Rights Act.
Starting point is 01:00:41 What has Donald Trump or any of these people done about racial justice and around police violence? Nothing. Black Lives Matter is fighting for the sanctity and dignity of Black life. It should be something that everybody should be aligned with and in adherence to, including the president. Chapter 17. i thought the way you explained d-ray mckesson in that chapter was interesting it was it was it was tasteful but it was firm you know i mean right deray i'm sorry why was it important to explain to people that deray as you said was taking credit for blm you know i felt conflicted but again it does feel important to me to tell the truth. And part of the truth, right, is that we have allowed people to overstate their roles.
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's not really about him. I'm using him as an example to talk about a larger phenomenon because he's not the only one. And I want us to ask ourselves these questions. Why is it, right, that we can't see a leader of a movement as a Black queer woman with two nose rings and tattoos, right? But we can certainly and feel fine about seeing a leader of a movement being somebody who wears a blue vest and is a man. We have to ask ourselves these questions. You mentioned that blue vest a lot more work to do on building unity amongst the diversity and complexity of our communities. And there also has to be a place where we all come together and hash out what is our common agenda. And that work takes both sides of things, right? It takes the unity work,
Starting point is 01:02:49 but it also takes the, what are our particular concerns work? Wow. Her name is Alicia Garza. The book is incredible. And Alicia, you are loved. You are valued. You are appreciated.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And, you know, I'm just happy that you exist. I'm glad that you're here to do the work. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Queen. Thank you. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. I valued you. I appreciate it. And, you know, I'm just happy that you exist. I'm glad that you're here to do the work. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Queen. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Tell them about the podcast real quick. Tell them where they can go subscribe. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, so check out
Starting point is 01:03:15 Lady Don't Take No Podcast, which is pop culture, politics with a side of beauty recommendations. And, actually, we're going to have you, Charlamagne, on the show next week. Definitely not talking of beauty recommendations. And actually, we're going to have you, Charlamagne, on the show next week. So, no. We're not talking about beauty recommendations. First of all, my skin is flawless.
Starting point is 01:03:30 My skin is flawless. Yeah, I'm saying. Everywhere you get your podcasts, it's available. And I'm stoked to have you on next week. Thanks for joining me. Thank you. Go get the Purpose of Power, everybody. Felicia Garza, it's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Hey. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela The Breakfast Club. Hey! Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Clubs. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Busta Rhymes, the mighty infamous It's time.
Starting point is 01:03:57 She's spilling the tea. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Y'all gonna put some respect on Busta Rhymes' name. Shout out to Busta. Now let's talk about verses. Here's what T.I. had to say about why he wouldn't do a verses with Busta. I salute and respect Busta a whole lot.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I just think the generational gap, it might be a little bit, just a little too much. Just a little too much. Just a little too much on him. Twista and Busta, that's going to be cold. I still want to see Buster and Missy. I agree. Buster and T.I. doesn't make sense. No, man.
Starting point is 01:04:31 I told y'all this all week long. Buster wants to battle anybody, though, and I'm not mad at him. He feels he has a catalog, which he does, and he'll spank a lot of people's asses. But I think T.I. and Jeezy, I think that's a better matchup. T.I. and Jeezy is a phenomenal versus. Didn't Buster respond to you? Well, yes, we are going to get to that right now. Here's what Busta had to say.
Starting point is 01:04:50 You respectfully declined. I guess that's the fancy way to say that you turned down this versus battle. You want to talk about generational gap. That's a very respectful way of not saying that you don't really want to sit in the smoking section with me. It's cool, Tip. You can say it, King of the South. So let's not make no excuses, King. Just tell the people you was really not ready to get this ass whooping on the world stage. That's the truth.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Now, I salute and respect Busta Rhymes as well. He's one of the greatest hip-hop performers of all time. I love Busta's music. In fact, one of my favorite hip-hop songs ever is Why We Die, featuring DMX and Jay-Z, produced by Swizz, off Busta's Anarchy album. But with that said, musically, he would not win a versus against T.I. It's a terrible matchup. Stylistically, T.I. would manhandle Busta musically.
Starting point is 01:05:39 What I want to see as well is Busta versus Missy. See, when you start using words like manhandling and all that, I don't like when you start talking like that, man. I don't care what you like. It's the truth, and you know that as well is Busta versus Missy. See, when you start using words like manhandling and all that, I don't like when you start talking like that, man. I don't care what you like. It's the truth and you know that as well. I don't start talking like that. Well, Busta also does not think that he would hesitate to take on even more than one artist at a time. Listen to this. Now, to the rest of the world,
Starting point is 01:05:58 again, I'll repeat, whoever, wherever, whatever. As a matter of fact, I don't mind going up against two different artists in the same verses. A menage a verses. Whoa, come on, Yeet. That's nasty. What's wrong with you? What? It's three people
Starting point is 01:06:13 in a verses. That's crazy. My God. Just a verses. I guess it would really be a verses et toi. Woo-ha. Alright, now Amber Rose was talking about how things went I guess it would really be a versus a trois. Woo-ha. All right. Now, Amber Rose was talking about how things went downhill with her in 21 Savage.
Starting point is 01:06:30 You know, she had a lot to say on the podcast with No Jumper. And here's what she had to say. It's really like that I'm a hoe too sign that kind of started their downward spiral. Are you the one who told him to hold the sign that says I'm a hoe? No, actually, that's what he wanted to do. And I think that was ultimately the demise of our relationship. Really? You think that's where it started? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:06:56 In what way? I think that he was being very supportive and he was like, man, I should hold a sign that says I'm a hoe too. And I was like, that would be really great for feminism. Like, slut walk, you know, you're a rapper. And, like, he held it up. And then after that, I think the internet just went in on him too much. And it was just not, it wasn't good after that.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Get 21 on the phone. We're keeping it real goes wrong. Big ho, okay? Get 21 on the phone. Somebody ask him if that is really the reason, man. Okay? He's like, man, I held up a sign that said I'm a ho, too. I got to get out here and be a ho, too.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Big ho. All right? Okay? He probably, it sounded like a great idea, execution. Yeah, I'd be mad. After that, just. Listen, women don't make you do strange things. I started arching my eyebrows back in the day because of two women.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Yo, I'm going to post that picture today. Oh, so you admit it. Have y'all seen that picture? That's why I never said it. I never not admitted it. Leonard the Latino. What about the eyeliner? Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Leonard the Latino. Why I had to be Latino? Yeah, I don't like this. Because Latinos usually do their eyebrows. Do what? Who says that? Shape their eyebrows. How you know?
Starting point is 01:07:56 I go to the barbershop and they be like, do my eyebrows. And they go, chick, chick, chick. Oh, because you're admitting you're a Latino now. Oh, I don't. That's what people do when they think they said something racist. All of a sudden, hey, I'm that.
Starting point is 01:08:05 No, I'm just saying when I go to the barbershop, my Latin brothers, they arch their eyebrows. Yeah, two women, Nina and Shannara, they asked me to arch my eyebrows back in the day.
Starting point is 01:08:16 You never seen a picture of those? It's terrible. Oh, you seen it? Oh, my God. It's bad. It's terrible. I got the thinnest eyebrows
Starting point is 01:08:21 I've ever seen. The thinnest eyebrows ever. That's what I get for trying to be Latino. I don't like this whole narrative you guys are pushing right now. You put eyeliner on too? All right. Well, that is your rumor report.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I'm Angela Yee. You seen eyeliner, Yee? Nah, it wasn't no eyeliner. Where's eyeliner? Yes, you did. No, I didn't. I had thick-ass eyebrows. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I need arched it. What do you think I do with your eyeliner? What do you think I do with your eyeliner? What are you talking about? Eyeliner. Yeah. You'll admit it next year. Okay. I've never used eyeliner. I'm you talking about? Eyeliner. A minute next year. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:46 I've never used eyeliner. I'm not like y'all. I don't lie about stuff. And we've been in here with a fake beard since we've been back from the quarantine. Beijing doubt, but trying to convince us that's real. He got you there. He doesn't got me there, man. Don't use those damn Beijing.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Okay. All right. All right. And stop using my mic, too. Who are you talking to? Who are you giving that donkey to, man? Aaron Honaker. He needs to come to the front of the congregation.
Starting point is 01:09:13 We'd like to have a word with him. You don't know who Aaron Honaker is, B. No. Well, you'll find out for after the hour. All right. We'll get into it next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:09:19 The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Tuesday, October 27th at 9, 8 Central on BET. Comic Trio 85 South hosts the 2020 BET Hip Hop Awards with 2 Chainz, Big Sean, Burner Boy, Gucci Mane, Jhene Aiko, Lil Baby, City Girls, and Tobey Nohigwe. Plus, music mogul Master P gets the I Am Hip Hop Award. For more information, search hashtag Hip Hop Awards.
Starting point is 01:09:48 It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day at Charlamagne. I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is a little bit of a mixed up. So like a donkey. Donkey of the Day. The practice club, bitches. Now I've been called a lot in my 23 years,
Starting point is 01:10:04 but Donkey of the Day is a new one. Well, donkey of the day for Friday, October 21st. Today? No, what's today? What is today? 22nd, I believe. 23rd. 23rd, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Friday, October 23rd. 21st was Jazz Fly's birthday. So it's Jazz Fly. Donkey of the day for Friday, October 23rd goes to a Miami attorney named Aaron Honaker. Good morning, Miami. Salute to everybody who listens to us on one or three, five to beat in Miami. Logic DJ 33 was happening. Good morning, my brothers.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I dropped on the clues bombs for one or two, five. I love Miami, but Miami is absolutely a part of Florida. Okay. What did your uncle Shala always say? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. You know, what's so interesting. It was a brief moment, a very brief moment where people from Florida would attempt to dispute me on that. always say the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. You know, what's so interesting. It was a brief moment,
Starting point is 01:10:48 a very brief moment where people from Florida would, would attempt to dispute me on that. Not anymore. Okay. I think people from Florida have finally taken a step back and started to see what we all see. Yeah. I started to hear what we all hear and they cannot deny that something is simply not right with Florida.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the state, the water, the sun, the people, it's just something about, you know, Florida. Okay. See in Charl it is. I don't know if it's the state, the water, the sun, the people. It's just something about, you know, Florida. Okay? See, in Charleston, South Carolina, where I'm from, we say, that boy there fool up now.
Starting point is 01:11:12 But his level's the fool up. And on the fool scale of one to Florida, every other state in America is about a four or five. But Florida fool, oof. That's just a different level. It's off the scale. See, crazy things happen everywhere. But when you hear about it, you can understand it somewhat. You know, you get why certain crazy things happen in places.
Starting point is 01:11:30 When things happen in Florida, it makes all of us just say, why? It's out of the realm of our understanding. And this story of Aaron Honaker is no different. See, Aaron is 41 years old, and he's an attorney. Drop on the clues bombs for all the attorneys out there. You are appreciated. I Googled how much an attorney can make in Miami. The yearly salary, I think, is $96,958 per year.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Almost $100,000. Okay, that point is very important. I want you to remember that number. You know why? Because Aaron, this Miami attorney, is currently in federal custody after being charged with trying to rob five banks since September 30. If you can't make this stuff up, let's go to WPLG Local 10 for the report, please. At one point in time, Aaron Patrick Honaker was a local attorney. Now the FBI says he's a serial bank robber.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Feds announcing the 41-year-old's arrest Wednesday in Coral Gables, saying he's the man in these surveillance photos, linking Honaker to at least four bank robberies in the Gables on September 30th and at least one in Aventura. Wake Forest University confirms Honaker earned his law degree there in 2005. And this profile on floridabar.org shows him as a member in good standing. Though the law firm listed as his place of employment tells us Honaker suddenly disappeared two years ago, and they haven't seen or heard from him since.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Now, I didn't go to college, but last time I checked to become an attorney, you had to get a bachelor's degree, right? Then you got to go to law school, right? So that's like seven to eight years of your life that you spent committed to working towards this goal of becoming an attorney, okay? Lawyers is something that a lot of people aspire to be.
Starting point is 01:13:06 You know, Claire Huxtable was a lawyer. Okay. We all, Maxine Shaw, attorney at law. Okay. Matt Locke, Ally McBeal. These people all made me think lawyers were like what you wanted to be in our society as kids. You know, you got to, you know, you have a degree, you know, a validation that allows
Starting point is 01:13:22 you to make almost $100,000 a year legally in Miami, Aaron, but you instead of wanting to be Claire Huxtable, you want to be Cleo from Set It Off and rob banks. Now, would you like to know how much he got from two of the five banks? Because he was only successful at robbing two. You know how much he got? How much? Wait for it, because this is one of the
Starting point is 01:13:40 reasons he's getting donkier today. He robbed two banks. Big penitentiary chance for $1,850. He robbed two banks and received $1,850. You took big penitentiary chances for
Starting point is 01:13:57 $1,850. This guy got caught in between bank robberies. The police saw him driving downtown to Miracle Mile and arrested him. He had a hammer on him and a demand note. And not a hammer hammer like a gun, a hammer hammer like a tool, okay? And he admitted that the TD Bank at 255
Starting point is 01:14:13 I think it's Alhambra Circle was next on his robbery attempt list. Now another reason Aaron is getting donkier today is because you would think since he's an attorney, he'd be representing himself, right? Wrong. He's got a public defender. Okay, he made his first appearance in court this week,
Starting point is 01:14:29 and they're keeping his ass. They want to detain him before trial, but he has a bond here in the day, so maybe he'll get out. Let me tell you something. You know that kid whose parents were doing pretty well, and he or she didn't have to hang in the street and do hood rats with you and your friends? That's who this guy Aaron is, okay? And there's nothing left to do here
Starting point is 01:14:46 except play a game of Guess What Race It Is! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Stop Googling, Envy. Get your little yellow beige fingers off your laptop right now. Now, Aaron Honaker, a Miami attorney, 41 years old, dubbed a serial bank robber, successfully
Starting point is 01:15:04 robbed two banks for $1,850, got caught with a hammer, not a gun, the actual tool. Okay? Angelique, guess what race he is! I'm going to say he is white. What leads you to that conclusion, Angelique? His last name's Hanukkah. No, Hanukkah.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Oh. I ain't gonna front. I thought the same thing. I was thinking the last name Hanukkah. Mute Angelique's mic while we talk for two minutes. I need to mute her mic while we talk for two minutes, please. BJ Envy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Now, Aaron Hanukkah, a Miami attorney, 41 years old, dubbed a serial bank robber, successfully robbed two banks for $1,850, got caught with a hammer, not a gun, an actual tool. Guess what race he is? All right. White. Shake it off. Shake it off.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Y'all, I'm not saying he's white, but I think y'all might have Googled. Why do y'all think this? Well, I was on the same thing as you. I thought the last name was Honaker, so I was like, I don't know any black people who laughed at Hanukkah. Who the hell said Hanukkah? I said that. I said Hanukkah. I mean, Hanukkah.
Starting point is 01:16:11 You said Hanukkah. Hanukkah. And then you said a hammer. I think if it was black, he would have had a real gun. He wouldn't have had no hammer. Who walks around with a hammer? Custodians. As soon as you said Hanukkahustodians. Carpenters.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Construction workers. Oh, yeah. I mean, but not attorneys. First of all, I didn't say Hanukkah. You did say Hanukkah. I said Hanukkah. It's H-O-N-A-K-E-R. Dramos, what did he say?
Starting point is 01:16:34 It sounded like Hanukkah. It might be the list, but it's not your fault. You know what? You know what? He's Latin now. He's Latin. He's Latin.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Wow. No, he's not actually. Sadly, you two are right. Aaron Honaker is a white man. Yes. He's Caucasian. I don't know any black people last name Honaker. That's why.
Starting point is 01:16:53 It's Honaker. You said Honaker. Please let Chelsea Handler give Aaron Honaker the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw. Hee-haw. That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise. What's this new big donkey, Dan? You say we got a big donkey.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Let me hear it. What the hell is happening to that donkey? I'm calling Peter. I think that was Dan. Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose. What? Of course he was. No, he wasn't.
Starting point is 01:17:17 You lose. Of course he was. He was the star. No, you're wrong. Look it up. I don't have to look it up. It's common knowledge. He was on the cover of No People magazine.
Starting point is 01:17:25 No, no, no. Everyone knows Kevin Bacon was a cover of No People magazine. No, no, no. Everyone knows Kevin Bacon was a star of Footloose. No, no, no. It was a huge movie. He was the lead. No, no, no, no. He, uh, he, uh, he, uh. All right, I think that we need a black producer just to balance. What the hell was that?
Starting point is 01:17:40 Just to balance. That poor donkey. Shake it off, shake it off. What did that donkey do to anybody? Guess what race our producer is. Guess what race our producer is. I'm going to go with white. Am I right?
Starting point is 01:17:55 White. Oh, he's telling us to wrap up. He's turning bright red. He's like, wrap up. Eddie, come in here and bring some goddamn balance. Oh, my goodness. All right. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Daniel Hanukkah. Daniel Hanukkah. Oh, my goodness. Let's get out of here before we get in trouble. Oh, I think it's over. All right. Up next, Angela Rye will be joining us. My sister, AR40.
Starting point is 01:18:23 She's doing something tomorrow at the forum in Englewood, actually. It's called, well, she'll tell you about it. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. My sister. I have no hope right now, Miss Rye. We have Angela Rye. Hello.
Starting point is 01:18:49 That's a sad way. Envy to be like, I have no hope right now. I have no hope right now, man. I'll be honest. I got hope, but I will say this. I would love for you, Angela, this morning because we all started debates last night. Even though both candidates are trash, tell people why they should still vote on November 3rd.
Starting point is 01:19:07 That's a good point. Well, first, I don't want to call human beings trash. Stop it. To the one human being on the stage, I'm still going to hold out a little bit of hope for there. So you have confidence in Joe Biden? Do you like Joe Biden? No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:19:20 I'm going to tell you where I have confidence. I have confidence in Kamala Harris. Same. And she wasn't on the debate stage. Now, let's move right along to the challenges and why it's most important to overcome those challenges to vote on November 3rd. You know, I'm actually going to steal a line from Andrew. I did a podcast last night with Andrew Gillum and Bakari Sellers. And Andrew said something that's so important that I know you all will appreciate. And that is that it's time for us to stop dream selling and to start truth telling. And I'm not talking about us. I'm talking about candidates and the whole political process.
Starting point is 01:19:55 And we tell everybody to put everything on the line from November 3rd. And then we're surprised, when people are like, well, nothing changed when I went to vote. Nothing changed when I cast my vote for you. And overnight, my community wasn't changed. And overnight, my city wasn't changed or my state wasn't changed. My kids' school looks exactly the same. And Andrew said something that was so important. He said that that's the front door of democracy.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I always say that that's the starting line, right? When you go to the voting booth, that's just the first thing you can do, but that's not all we should be doing. And the biggest problem I think is we tell people, vote like your life depends on it. You should, but also there are several other things you have to do to make sure you protect your livelihood, you protect your ability to survive, and you protect our ability when we weren't even considered able to get these things from the Declaration of Independence. But life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness doesn't all come on Election Day. That's the hard thing. And so we have
Starting point is 01:20:56 to make sure people understand if you don't participate, then those three things are less likely. But there's a lot we have to do to ensure those things become likely i would also like for you to explain just like you know what trump has right now like you know as far as the courts are concerned and you know yeah well and i just have to point out that clearly my sales pitch didn't work because here was envy when i was done yeah you're not you're not selling us on biden we're voting though yeah yeah but here's the thing here's the thing i'm not selling biden right he's not for sale to me right i think what i'm saying is there's one side that i would prefer to engage there's one side that i would prefer to fight to get to where we need to be
Starting point is 01:21:36 we can't fight we can't fight trump on where we need to be this dude stood on the debate stage and every time he opened his mouth he was lying joe biden lied a lot too though and i don't that's what i don't like it's like too old you know what i saw last night i saw an old white male politician and his boss an old rich white man and i'm tired of that in america i hate it yeah that's what i said and i understand why you hate it because the reality of it is you don't feel seen or heard i get get that. But at the same time, when we got to the racial justice portion of the conversation and Joe Biden talked about the ability to just see things differently. Meanwhile,
Starting point is 01:22:15 Donald Trump is talking about, he's the least racist person in the room. The fact that you are on the spectrum of racism rather sit down like we, and then the debate before he said stand back and stand by now i don't know why joe joe biden told people he said stand around and sit down whatever he said the poor boys the poor boys he said let me have that fried shrimp sandwich from new orleans what's that thing called yeah what are we about? And so I think that at the end of the day, what we have to remember is that voting is up at the top of the ballot from the highest office in the land, the president to the bottom. When you look at the fact that 60 plus percent of Americans know who they were voting for before tonight, last night's debate, that's what we have to remember. Folks already know. You said, Lenard, you said it right. Like, what if we started talking to people about the Supreme Court, about all of the federal
Starting point is 01:23:11 judicial appointments that not only Donald Trump can make, but all of those that Barack Obama wasn't able to make? I've been so frustrated in this process because Kamala and Joe Biden haven't talked about what is deserved by us on the courts. And they should, because we literally were hamstrung by Mitch McConnell. When you start having those conversations with people, their positions shift. I did an informal focus group the night before last and brought up Amy Coney Barrett's record, who, of course, they're about to shove through the Senate nominating process. They didn't know, or some of them did know, that she said that the N-word, saying the N-word at work by your supervisor does not constitute a hostile working environment. And I said,
Starting point is 01:23:56 what if you had the opportunity, right? Like, what are you talking about? If you had the opportunity to get a judge on the Supreme Court or in a federal judicial appointment who thought like you, would that be enough for you to vote? If you think Joe Biden doesn't represent your interests, would you think that's enough? Everybody say yes. So we don't do a good job of telling people how important the judiciary is. So if they had the opportunity to pick judges who think like them, who are going to enforce the laws that are passed in Congress, that's reason enough for them to vote. Progressives don't talk about that enough at all.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Somebody like a Daniel Cameron, attorney general, if you don't like what's happening with that, then those are people that you can vote for too. So it's not just the president. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was talking about the federal judiciary, but you're absolutely right. State attorney general appointments, district attorneys, the people who are representing you in the state legislature.
Starting point is 01:24:49 This is a census year, y'all. They're drawing legislative districts for the state and federal positions, elected offices. Like we have to be telling people the truth about the process. And of course, you can look at them and say, I'm just talking about everyday Americans say, well, they should know better. Well, they don't because they stopped teaching civics at school forever ago. Like I'm blessed because I grew up around that. I don't know how many people had to learn civics from schoolhouse rock, but that ain't on air either. Right. So that's that's our truth. How did you how did you like Biden's reply to the 94 crime bill last night? Wait, wait, wait. Don't answer. Don't answer. We'll come back and we'll talk to Angela Rice some more. Don't move.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Angela Rice here. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're kicking it with Angela Rice. Now, Charlamagne, you just had a question for Ms. Rice.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Yeah, I was just asking, you know, how did she like Biden's reply to the 94 crime bill? Only because I know that's the things that people, know aren't feeling this morning that his answers and stuff like that i'm tired of saying that this is uh it's a big issue it's the elephant in the room it is the thing that's going to keep on coming up every time race is addressed it's the only thing that joe biden i mean um donald trump I'm confusing the two now, Jesus, that Donald Trump has against Joe Biden, right? It's the only thing that he has. And to hear him effectively talk about the number of people whose sentences were commuted under the Obama administration and who was granted clemency compared to the handful of people Donald Trump gave clemency to is a palatable point but it's not when you compare that to what happened in 82 84
Starting point is 01:26:31 86 88 and 94 it's all of those things it's the collective and you have to be clear about the fact that this doesn't align with where we are now until you can't defend it right the other problem that we have is people were waiting a long time for Donald Trump to apologize to the Central Park Five. Hasn't happened. He called for the death penalty again of them as well. And he also called for more police on the streets. So he's able to speak out of both sides of his mouth in ways that Joe Biden couldn't and shouldn't. I'm not advocating for that. But I think the reality of it is, is white supremacy or white toxicity exists on both sides of the aisle
Starting point is 01:27:10 and it needs to be addressed as such. Stop defending that nonsense. People's lives were destroyed behind that. And I think that his campaign's got to do him right and tell him that. Of course, again, we all know where we're voting. It doesn't make it right. And so I'm saying at this late date this
Starting point is 01:27:25 isn't about securing a vote this is about saying and committing that you are ready to do the right thing and i think that's what it boils down to at this point donald trump asked a great question last night uh that hasn't been answered and i would love for you to speak to this he said biden you've been in the senate for 47 years you were vp for eight years and you did none of these things you said you wanted to do well how would how reply to that? Well, I think, again, it demonstrates that Donald Trump doesn't have a real clear understanding of how government works, right? When you're in the United States Senate, you are one voting member of 100. And so even when you sponsor legislation and you're pushing things through, you don't always get your way.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I think it's a misstatement of what he did under the Obama administration, everything from overseeing the government's recovery to an economic crisis brought to you by George W. Bush. He was responsible for helping to find a cure for cancer after his son, Beau Biden, was diagnosed with cancer. There were a number of other initiatives he led, including the auto bailout. So there are things that he did, whether or not people liked them while he was in elected office is something to be debated and has been hotly contested and debated throughout this cycle.
Starting point is 01:28:38 But I think it's a misstatement to say he didn't do anything. I guess he was speaking specifically to the black community. Oh, well, and then I think in that moment, Joe Biden talked about clemency that was granted, but we all know enough wasn't done. Nobody has done enough in our 401 years of being here. And you cannot put all of that at the feet of Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Not one of the past 43 white presidents has done this before the one black president that we had. And all of a sudden, I think all of us made the mistake optimistically assuming, right, that Barack Obama could undo all of America's racism when he had to fight against it himself in his eight years. And he didn't have control of the Senate, which is very important. Yeah, well, he did have control of the Senate for part of his term. But when he did, they got the Affordable Care Act done, which they call Obamacare. And as we know, Donald Trump, since his first day in office, has tried to undo that. How can you stand on a debate stage in the midst of coronavirus and say that you don't support a federal minimum wage mandate?
Starting point is 01:29:44 Like, people can barely pay their bills. And that's what Donald Trump stood up there and said yesterday. We have a big problem with him. And again, I'm just saying, the person that I would rather fight to get further to where we need them to be more progressive, and I can probably hold them to it, is an administration that's full of appointees that I know and I'm familiar with and happy to have the debate with versus Donald Trump that claims that he is the most or the best president for black people. The least racist president. The least racist. That's a low bar. I might be racist, but at least I'm the least.
Starting point is 01:30:19 You look at Donald Trump and he'll go on Rogan's podcast. He'll do his core. But if you look at Biden, you haven't seen Biden on Sway. You haven't seen him on Steve Harvey. You haven't seen him on Ricky Smiley. You haven't seen him on none of the black program, not The Breakfast Club, not Big Boy. It seems like he's scared of the core. So you guys, I think part of this is, it's Lenard's fault.
Starting point is 01:30:42 He scared him. The last time he was on with y'all, It's Lenard's fault. He scared him. The last time he was on with y'all, Donald Trump did get his basic line of attack against Joe Biden for the whole ass election. And that is on the crime bill. I know I ruined that. But I think that the most important thing is something that you guys are raising. And that is you cannot take your base for granted. You can't the two largest voting box in the democratic party are black women and black men and i think probably a real close second are latina latinx men and women right and that is
Starting point is 01:31:15 you all's base you have to come to the breakfast club to talk to that electorate you have to know the pulse of the culture by coming here you cannot ignore your base and expect to then also serve. It could be anyone. Like I said, it could be Steve Harvey. It could be big boy. It could be. Well, I said the breakfast club. But no, no shade to the other folks who are doing great things. But I think you all establish yourselves in 2016 with the interview with Hillary. Every single presidential candidate came on the Breakfast Club this term.
Starting point is 01:31:48 And I think that that says a lot about who you all are to the culture. And so for that, I definitely will tell you thank you. And I'll also tell the campaign they made a big mistake not sending the candidates here. It's a very important stop to make. There are questions that you all have that are valid, even if they're tough.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Those are questions that they have to be prepared to answer. Clearly, on the debate stage and attack ads from other campaigns, it's just a critical, mission critical. Even during the midterms, folks came on this show. Yeah, I think Senator Harris is coming next week before the election. She's been here for several times. It's super important. Yeah. Super important.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Well, Rod, we appreciate you. Tell them what you're doing tomorrow, Angela. Oh, yes. So I'm wearing this shirt. Tell them what you're doing tomorrow, Angela. Oh, yes. Somewhere in this shirt. Elect Justice. We're doing these big events. I hope it will make y'all proud. You know, you guys are my family. And we're going to be in 14 cities all over the country. The biggest one will be here in L.A. where I am right now at the forum in Englewood. Elect Justice is about ensuring that black and brown voters know
Starting point is 01:32:46 that we're not there asking for something without making sure that basic needs are met in return. You all know we're in the middle of a pandemic within a pandemic within a pandemic at the crossroads of COVID, economic injustice, and of course, all of the racial injustice that exists in this country. We're giving away PPE.
Starting point is 01:33:03 We're giving away meals for the day, groceries, and also offering COVID testing. So we encourage you all to check it out. Shout out to our partners when we all vote. Black Voters Matter and everybody else that's participating. We'll be streaming on Tidal all day tomorrow, well, for two and a half hours tomorrow, and we hope that people will come through if they need anything. You can also
Starting point is 01:33:26 the most important thing, you can cast the early vote. Tomorrow is National Early Vote Day, so we're also making sure that people can cast the early vote and drop those ballots off. You don't have to put them in the mail if you don't want to. So 1 to 5 p.m. tomorrow at the Forum. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Yes. 3900 West Manchester Boulevard in Engglewood, California. All right. And another 14 cities. All right. Well, thank you for joining us. Angela Rye, it's The Breakfast Club. We got rumors on the way.
Starting point is 01:33:53 The Breakfast Club. Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The rumor report. Gossip. Gossip.
Starting point is 01:34:03 With Angela. Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. So Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. So, you know, there's a new Borat movie out. Sacha Baron Cohen has put this out. They actually released it right before the debate also, by the way. And then afterwards, Sacha Baron Cohen's teenage daughter.
Starting point is 01:34:32 And here's what happened in the actual movie. Thank you again for giving me the time. Shall we have a drink in the bedroom? Come here. What? What happened? There you go, my dear. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:47 You can give me your phone number and your address put down your crumb she's 15 she's too old for you my daughter please take me instead take my annals now you can see if you watch it that gi Giuliani is like putting his hand down his pants. That's what it appears to be like. And that's when Borat bursts into the room and says she's 15. She's too old for you. Now Giuliani has been defending himself saying he was just fixing his shirt, tucking it in. He was threatening to sue.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Well, here is the character of Borat actually defending his very good friend Giuliani. I'm here to defend America's mayor, Rudolf Giuliani. What was an innocent, sexy time encounter between a consenting man and my 15-year-old daughter had been turned into something disgusting by fake news media. I warn you, anyone else try this, and Rudolph will not hesitate to reach into his legal briefs and whip out his subpoenas. Let me tell you something. I think Borat is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:35:56 I loved watching that show when it was on Showtime, but I really don't understand how he gets away with the kind of stuff that he does. Me neither. How did he not know? I don't get it, but I also don't understand how Rudy Giuliani is getting away with this. It's like nobody cares. It's like dude got caught in a hotel
Starting point is 01:36:09 with an underage girl. If it hadn't, you know, have been a prank, it would have definitely went down, but nobody is talking about it. Like we've canceled people on social media for less. Like why is this normalized
Starting point is 01:36:21 when it comes from like the Trumps and the Giulianis of the world? Well, he's trying to explain himself by saying that he was just trying to fix his shirt and tuck it back in and, you know, that he hadn't done anything wrong. I waited 60 more seconds. Yeah, right, before he busted in the room. Well, he'd have been complicit then, though. Well, she's really 24 years old. She's an actor in real life.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Oh, okay. Yeah, it's not really a teenager. She's playing a 15-year-old. How do we know this stuff ain't scripted and all of them not in on it, yo? I just can't believe he catches up. I don't think Giuliani would want this. He gets these politicians and world leaders in these compromising positions all the time. I'm like, I don't see it.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Where the cameras at when all of this is happening? What do they think is going on? Like, what did Rudy Giuliani think was happening when he was being filmed? He thought he was getting, listen, you got to watch it because it really literally just came out yesterday. So, you know, we can't answer all of that yet, but looks like it's going to be pretty funny, right? All right. Now let's talk about Lorenz Tate. His movie Business Ethics is out today on Amazon Prime and actually his production company with his brothers at Tate Men, they produced this film and it's all about Lorenz Tate plays the main character.
Starting point is 01:37:27 And he is a really smart man, but he starts kind of, I guess, a Ponzi scheme and starts getting money from some of these rich people. Here is the trailer. You can cheat people out of a lot of money. I'll set you up with a million bucks. Two million bucks. Five million dollars. Things were bucks. Five million dollars. Things were good. There's a gentleman here to see you.
Starting point is 01:37:49 So I thought. There's no sure sign of a great business than having people try to kill you. So that's on Amazon Prime Video today, iTunes or Google Play. Hey, man, salute to the good brother, Lorenz Tate. Absolutely, my brother. You know what I'm saying? I support Lorenz Tate in anything he does. I mean, Lorenz Tate is classic, legendary, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:14 and I'm definitely checking that out. Yeah, that role that he's playing was originally meant for a white man, but he loved that part so much, and he ended up landing that role. Alright, there's an Elton John Barbie doll now, if you want to get that, the tiny dancer doll. It's being released to coincide with Elton John's 45 year anniversary of his concert.
Starting point is 01:38:36 It was the largest single artist concert in history at the time at Dodger Stadium back in 1975. So you can order that Elton John tiny dancer. I was thinking about getting that for you for Christmas. Or the tiny dancer doll. Yep. Alright. at Dodger Stadium back in 1975. So you can order that Elton John Tiny Dancer. I was thinking about getting that for you for Christmas. Or the Tiny Dancer, though. Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:49 All right. It's cute. Tiny Dancer, though. Twinkle toes. Well, and I just want to shout out everybody who has albums out today. Ty Dolla Sign featuring Ty Dolla Sign is out. Joyner Lucas, Evolution. Both.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Cell Soul 2 is out today. King Crooked. Flag. Black Zack. 803 Legend. Davies put out the deluxe version of Karma 3. Tech 9. Fear Exodus.
Starting point is 01:39:15 That's the EP. And that's out today. Also, new music from Saweetie and Jhene Aiko, Back to the Streets. Oh, and Chanel West Coast album, America's Sweetheart is also out today. Okay. All right. I'm Angela Yee, and that's your rumor report. Alright, now shout out to one of the leaders of Light Skin. His birthday is tomorrow. Who?
Starting point is 01:39:31 Drake. So we're actually going to get a Drake mix on today. Let me know your favorite Drake joint. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Revolt. We'll see you on Monday. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. It's DJ Envy. And for 55 years, the General Insurance has been giving people affordable auto insurance with excellent customer service. Get custom coverage that's right for you and immediate proof of insurance.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Call them at 800-GENERAL or visit thegeneral.com. Some restrictions apply. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, shout out to everybody that's attended my webinar over the weekend. We are actually taking a one-family home that we purchased, and we're flipping it. We're going from start to flip, so you get to see everything from purchasing the home, where we got the home from, to demo, to framing, to electric and plumbing and insulation and then flooring and windows. And we go through the whole process. And the house wasn't that expensive.
Starting point is 01:40:33 The house was $140,000. We put about $40,000 to $50,000 into the house. And we're selling it for $405,000. So it's about a $200,000 profit. So we break that all down, how we got the house and all that good stuff. So definitely click the link in my bio if you guys want more information. Man, I've been having so many issues trying to start working on this new house I got, but it's a little different.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Well, the house that we purchased was $150,000. Your house was about maybe 30 of those houses. But you know what, though? I didn't know this, but they have this law here where you have to get a sprinkler system installed in your house. A sprinkler system looks so cheesy, but they got some nice ones where they have the sprinkler system and they have a cage over it that looks better. Well, you won't see it. It's going to be underneath the ceiling, but that means you got to rip apart the ceiling. And then it's a lot of money to even just get the sprinkler system from the street that you have to pay to get that part done.
Starting point is 01:41:30 But it's like mandatory. Damn it, man. All right. Well, when we come back, we got the positive note. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. CJ, Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Now shout to Angela Rye for joining us this morning. Salute to my sister, AR40. And make sure y'all go check her out tomorrow at the Forum in Englewood from 1 to 5 p.m. They're doing this thing called Elect Justice. And it's like an early vote rally, food and PPE giveaway. They got COVID testing. All types of stuff from 1 to 5 p.m. tomorrow at the Forum in Englewood, California. And she said 14 other states also, right?
Starting point is 01:42:08 I mean, 14 other cities too. Yep. Also, Alicia Garza for joining us this morning as well. Yes. Please go pick up Alicia Garza's book, The Purpose of Power. It's a great read. I read it in like 48 hours. It really does humanize the BLM movement and the BLM organization in a real way.
Starting point is 01:42:27 And not just the BLM organization, just this whole era of new leadership and these new movements we have. It puts a lot of things in perspective. So salute to Alicia Garza. All right. Now you got a positive note? I do, man. The positive note is more just like, you know, a thank you. You know, I don't think we give God enough gratitude
Starting point is 01:42:45 and I want a lot of y'all this morning, man, to really, really, really look in the mirror and smile and, you know, say to yourself, God,
Starting point is 01:42:52 thank you for not just throwing my teeth in my mouth like God was shooting dice, okay? Some of y'all really need to go see a dentist. Some of y'all really need braces, all right?
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