The Breakfast Club - All The Smoke: LeSean McCoy Breaks Down 2025 NFL MVP Race + Untold Locker Room Stories

Episode Date: February 2, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... All The Smoke! Legendary RB LeSean "Shady" McCoy joins the show to set the stage for the 2025 NFL playoffs with raw, unfiltered takes on the game's biggest stars. The 6-time Pro Bowler breaks down the epic MVP battle between Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, shares never-before-heard locker room stories from his Eagles and Bills days, and settles the Mahomes vs. Brady GOAT debate once and for all. Plus, Shady gets real about his perspectives on Michael Vick and Colin Kaepernick, drops gems on Saquon Barkley's record controversy, and provides insight into the current NFL contract landscape. An essential episode for any football fan before the postseason kicks off.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers and so many other fascinating people like writer and actor Dan Aykroyd. I love writing more than anything. You're left alone. You know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon, go pick up a kid from school, then write at night.

And after nine hours, you come out with seven pages and then you're moving on. Listen to Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. LA day two. We had a good one this morning. Hey, this dude's been entertaining us since he got here. Is your mic straight? How you like it? Yeah, I got it right. You straight? Yeah, it's a big episode. Cool. Look at it, right? Look at you. Yeah. Yeah.

Look at your solo talk to him, Shady. How y'all doing? We're here. All the smoke, you know what I'm saying? Stacks, my man, Matt, you know, we doing it up. You know what I mean? I'm happy to be here. And I don't even smoke.

Am I the only one that's ever smoked? No. No, no, no. A lot of people don't smoke. You good. Okay. How's life? What's going on No, no, no. Okay, okay. You good. Okay. How's life? What's going on with you, bro? Life is good.

Life is good. 2025 is my year. Yeah, you was telling, you was entertaining us, bro. You got a whole little plan, but I like your busy. You was talking business at the end. Like what's 2025 mean to you? Oh, we gonna talk private business and stuff and all that, endeavors and all that.

But nah, just, you know what? Being a better person though. Right? We say that, but are we really doing them steps, be a better father, you know, be more devoted to my savior, like all these things I'll be thinking about. Cause I feel like the only thing we think about is family

and how to get more money, right? And I think if we do things the right way, we'll hit all the same avenues, you know, we'll cross that path. So just being all around a better person. Yeah, that's really it. What's up? Two of you.

Oh, I'm trying to get married soon too. Congratulations. So if you got any ladies out there that's, you know what I mean? Oh, you don't even know her yet. You just looking for someone to marry. No, I'm dating her. I'm dating her like a lot.

Okay. But I'm just taking a lot. Until the job is actually, you know what I mean? Secure it. Can you find, can you find like real love out here in LA? It's dangerous out here. This streets is cold. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't believe.

LA is different. Yes. I probably don't dig in LA. Okay. But I am open for whoever's out there. That's for me. They're right. Yeah.

What are some qualities she gotta have? She gotta have a job. That's the new thing out. I got a jizz eye, jizz eye, jizz eye. That's crazy. No, I mean, it is embarrassing to say that, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so. Something going on.

Right, this have, yeah, like, when I come home, tell me what you did, like. So that, what else character would you say I like? She all be, she all have nice hair. I, you know, I like hair. Tall, short, wait, does the hair have to be hers? Yeah, I thought I was just getting that. Like, gotta have her hair.

You guys start background checking these motherfuckers, these broads too these days, making some of them backgrounds just be out of control. But our background's out of control. But I'm saying though, but I don't have to accept that. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? I don't have to accept that.

I feel you. Now, I know y'all did your research on me before you asked me all these questions. I get it. But I am a psych major, right? So the question you just asked him, I used to be like, what, I don't care about her. But now I do, like, hold on.

I gotta know, like, and listen, if this was going on with you, why are you like that? Where does that come from? You wanna have that kind of conversation. What makes you upset? Okay. Yeah. Start getting it on.

Cause now I'm getting to know you for you. You're trying to get in their mind. Yeah. Yeah. Once you do that, it's over. Right. I just seen every side of a woman. He been psych majoring everybody.

You been married for a long time, right? No, I've been married. I married and divorced, but I've been with my girl now 10 years. Married three. Okay. So I ask my dude like right now, years, married three. Okay, yeah. So I ask my dude like right now,

and I like a lot of them dating, you know what I mean? I mean, since you are really with the psychological side of it, what is some advice you would give some of these younger athletes these days? Because you see a lot of the, some of these older women praying, so to speak, on these young boys. You are right about that, bro.

Damn. Oh man. So what advice I would give them, right, is have some patience. Take your time. Right, I feel like we get a girl that's popular, she's not there, and we wanna just give her everything. Right, you know what I mean?

Everything she wanna be given. And it's like, if she really like me, she gonna wait. You know what I mean? Let me at least learn you. Let me at least like you. We be so hyped up to get somebody that's a baddie or somebody that's popular and all that, and we don't even get to like her. And then when we do like me, she gonna wait. Let me at least learn you, let me at least like you. We be so hyped to get somebody that's a baddie or somebody that's popular and all that, and we don't even get to like her.

And then when we do like her, we like, I don't even like this joint. You know what I mean? You ain't giving her all this. Yeah, I been there. Once you hear this, it's all like, here you go. And another thing is, yo, get somebody that got some loose, like you got some loose.

Cause I be thinking like, if we heard her do something, and let's say it's wrong, we get in trouble. If you not only face the heat and embarrassed, and I'm gonna face it, then why we even, and it's not about, she gotta be like somebody, you know what I mean? But let's say you got kids, you a really good mom. You care how you are perceived for your children.

You know what I mean? Like you a good person, or you don't want your parents to see what type of, that's my thing, like have something to lose. You know, girls lose something they don't care about and go to the next one. I'm like, hold on, baby. Then you just get my man jammed up

and you wanna blog, talk about it. But now you're about to get with me. Now, why would I do that? That's the dumb shit we be doing. People still will do it though, is the problem. Therein lies the issue. That is right. We will do it though.

Won't he do it? And then you ask your man, damn, you think she gonna tell him he likes you? God damn right. Two of your former brothers, man, just took jobs. Shout out to Sean Jackson at Delaware State and Mike Vick at Norfolk State to your real brothers. Thoughts and will we see you out there

with either of them this year or this season? Oh, you absolutely not see me. I ain't doing no coaching, but I will say this. I'm so happy, super happy for Michael Vick. You know, I always see him being a coach. You know what I mean? I remember when we was young, wilding out and he was like our idol playing with him,

and the coach couldn't control me and Deshaun, he had to go through Vic to do it. And then OJ Vic said, you know what I mean, do this, do that. All right, we gonna do it. I remember one time we lived in weights. Damn, I love Mike, because Mike's a great person. You know what I mean?

People don't know that, right? Even with the dog stuff and all that, once he served his time in jail and the community service, yo, he still was out there, there like making people aware of it. And they didn't even ask him to. But story, we liftin' weights and we ain't lift weights. We ain't lift weights like that. So Mike's in there.

So we act like we liftin'. We talkin' about the girls of last night, you know, and Jack left. So Mike said, yeah, where'd Jack go? I don't know, I don't know where he went. I don't know where he went. So he go find him. He said, yo man, you know, come back in the locker room. So he come back in there and he said, man,

I ain't gotta lift, man, I'm natural. Yup. Mike said, what? What you mean you natural? He said, I don't need that, man, I get it done with anything. He said, what you think I do? Fuck, you know what I mean?

Like, if I'm in here working out, I got $200 million contracts twice. Why you can't do it? He said that, we start lifting. Just the OG, you know what I mean, of putting us in our place and then keeping it moving. The problem is like, players don't like that now. So that's how Mike was into Deshaun, another good friend of mine's. I'm happy for him because now he's the type of coach where he gonna motivate players. Like we come from the same backgrounds, right? Maybe underdogs, and Deshaun's always big on the underdog, you know? And he's gonna get them players and he gonna make them dogs,

right? And I think a lot of recruits are gonna come to him because of that. And I think Deshawn's good for just a newer generation of trying to control like being from that neighborhoods, right? And still going out there and being a professional in the field. He's gonna be great at that. Your transition into media, you know, obviously your show with your brother 2510, but then also you've been, you know, prevalent in the Fox space the last few years too. How'd that start and how's it going? It's going good. You know, it was a little different for me. I think my transition was,

it was harder for most because, like I'm always the same way. If it's on TV, if it's joking with y'all, that's what I do. So I had to learn on the prime time and like a little more professional where if I want to call a dude this ass, like he ain't shit. You know what I mean? I can't say that.

I got to say, like I said it about Dak and like, you know, I didn't like how it came off because that's not what I was trying to say. I was saying like, you know, we talk about this dude so much. I mean, he's, he's okay. You know what I mean? And like he's, and he was playing ass dude so much. I mean, he's, he's okay. You know what I mean? And like he's, and he was playing ads at the time. I should have said that.

So like learning that how to be different but still be myself. Cause I see a lot of dudes that they be a certain way on TV, then they get off and then told different dude. You know what I mean? Like, hold on, man, this ain't even for real. You know what I mean? So I never want to be like that,

but the train doesn't been cool. It's been good. It's hot right now though. Yeah, the block is hot. I don't know what you, I mean, So I never want to be like that, but the train has been cool. It's been good. It's hot right now though. Yeah, the block is hot. I don't know what you, I mean, you don't have to get into detail, but what's the energy over there right now? Well, you know,

you know, no, no, I'm real supportive of all my coworkers. You know what I'm saying? And like, I don't mean no much about none of that shit. You know what I mean? Like I don't, you know, I'm cool with everybody over there. Where you currently stand over there? Are you in negotiations with them?

Are you happy? Oh, you're in negotiations right now? Yup, so it's crazy that you just brought that up because you just got approached about it. I'm gonna talk to them about Super Bowl around then. So after this year though, I really holla at them. You're able to balance traditional media and then obviously there's new wave of media in the pocket.

Like what's your goal in both? Yeah, so you know, I like the corporate stuff though. So that way I'm still in the light, you know, still on the mainstream and all that. Because I'm going to do some stuff like I'm going to call games probably next year or two. Okay. Right. And then like I do a lot of partnerships with the NFL. And a lot of partnerships with the NFL. And a lot of that is because I am more mainstream.

But I like this side of it too though, cause this is more who I really am, right? I think culturally like just certain topics and conversations with different athletes and people, you know, I could do that any day. And I think I like that too, cause I'm getting the best of both worlds, you know? So like, it's funny, like one day I'll get my take

on a game on prime time, right? And then maybe the next day, the same conversation, I'm gonna give it to you in a wholly different way. So that's why I like both of them. And it's building my brand up, right? Because you talked about real estate, I'll do that. But also I'm trying to teach young boys

to how to get money without doing different things. And I've been saying, if you can build, you know, teach young boys how to get money without doing different things. And I've been saying like, you can build, you always make money, you know what I mean? So just using both platforms. Recently inducted into the Eagles Hall of Fame. All time lead Russia, congrats bro. How was that? That was cool, that was good.

Like, you know, when you playing, you get all the love and all that. And then when you retire, you always wonder like, do the people still love me the same way? What did our boys say from Payday 4? Oh, oh, oh. When the crowd's gonna scream my name? Right, right, right.

Money man, Mitch. What did they say? When I leave the game, they still gonna love me, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it was good, man. They all had to give a speech out, you know. It was a halftime, so they turned all the lights on. See, I was really, I was ready for it.

They had my little notes and all that, my little speech. And then when they shut the lights on, and the fans had all the cameras and the lights, I kinda like, oh, okay, all right. So it was, I be thinking about like, the Eagles been around for so many years, right? And it's only about like eight of us, nine of us that's on the Eagles Hall of Fame, right?

I played with some great players too, so to be second to that, that's dope. But I think the bigger one is coming soon though. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna talk my shit about that. Yes. Yes. Yes.

When you eligible? What year? Next year. Next year, 26. Yep, next year. The odds are good. Six time Pro Bowl, 2010 All-Decade team, two time Super Bowl champ,

six 1000 yard rushing seasons. And it was dynamic from the passer side too. You think you got a good shot? I do. I've been looking at like who goes in, right? And like, okay, this running back, I got numbers like him. I got touchin' like him.

I got all that, you know. But it's funny, I be thinking, I'm like, I really grade a player off of who you did it with, right? So like right now, Lamar Jackson, bro, I haven't seen anybody play as good as him in a long time. He ballin'. And I look at Josh Allen, who's always been ballin', right? I look this year, he's not playing as good as Lamar, right?

Stats-wise, but he ballin' crazy too. But the difference is like, yo, who you do with? You know what I'm sayin'? And y'all can contest this from playing a game. Like you got pro bowlers here or all NBA or this and that around you and really good players around you. Okay. But if you're doing that with dudes that barely making

the squad and I kind of respect them more when you talk about the MVP, you get what I'm saying? So a lot of these guys, I look on this hall of famous and running backs, you know, and a lot of them, and they play with a lot of great players where you coming to see me and the Eagles or more with the Buffalo, and I was giving out really good numbers

because Buffalo wasn't like that back then, like they are now, but it's hard to get 1,300. So yeah, I was getting 16 in Philly when I had Deshaun and Vic and them dudes, but if I'm still give you 13 plus and all that and touchdowns. And Nicole. And Nicole with backup lineman

and wide receivers that go from this team and that team and this team, that count for something. You know what I mean? Like one of my best friends is Frank Gorham. We always talking about that. Like who we do it with. You know what I'm saying?

So with that argument, who you do with, that would give, although Lamar's playing great this year, better numbers than his previous MVP seasons, Josh Allen is doing it with less. I will give it to Josh. I think they, A plus to an A, Lamar's playing like A plus, Josh playing the A. Josh is winning with dudes that wouldn't make other teams.

If you come up to a game plan, right, y'all know this from playing basketball, how we gonna stop the Ravens? All right, look, we gonna watch up to eight cause he's just, but damn, you got another MVP, Ty Canady behind you, Derrick Henry, right? And then Zay Flowers and the baby, like you all these different dudes.

We're a buffalo, I mean, like who? Josh Allen. But he got two Pro Bowls, a whole team. One's a left tackle, Deion Dawkins, the other one's Josh. So I would give it to him. He did beat the Detroit Lions and the Chiefs. They both were number one seed, you know what I mean? But whoever wins, I don't care, because Lamar,

Lamar possibly winning MVP last year, just being respectful. He had like, he had them same stats last year in the first half of the season, you know what I mean? But I never seen him play this good, but Lamar is truly- His next step now is to win in the playoffs though, right? He gonna win.

You gotta be super bold, that's it. I don't believe by all that shit they be talking about, oh, well he's record, yeah, he was 20 dollars, he's gonna have a lot of time. I think this is his best, what last year was. Last year this year was probably his best chance to win. You know what I mean? But then again, like, I mean, Pastor Holmes ain't just,

he out there though. I watched Pat, in 2019 I was the Chiefs, we won a championship, phenomenal player, right? We had everybody, Travis Kelsey was still younger. He won a date with the billionaire chick, so Kelsey was still younger. He wanted dating the billionaire chick. So he was really engaged. We had Tyreek Hill as a dog. All right.

Real quick, hold your thought. Can Tyreek go back to Kansas City? Yeah. Okay. We'll talk about that later. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so we was setting records, touchdowns, everything you can think about.

But then I watched him last year where they lost five games. They was on the road, no playoffs. He didn't look good all year. Travis wasn't balling. And I'm thinking still winning championships. So I'm like, yeah, hold up. You winning the best championships at your best,

at your worst, you still winning. They had the most drops in the Wipers series. So it's like Jason, like I gotta make sure this motherfucker's dead. know what I'm saying? So you gotta go beat Pat. Right. Pat, that dude, bro. And that's a lot of things too,

if you correlate that to basketball, when Steph and the Warriors were running, there was a lot of good teams that just couldn't get past Steph and the Warriors. I ain't think of that. Like, brah, I could have done the chip with U.S. miles. Damn. You never know what happened with Harden in Houston

with Dame Lillard in Portland when they had them good teams. Like there was teams that were good, but they just ran into the Warriors. Damn, Houston Rockets. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah.

We start talking sports in here. I be talking all day. I saw a question. What happened to the Eagles team? Why y'all couldn't get over the hump? When you was- That's a good question. Andy Reid.

Our defense wasn't that good. Our offense- That's what it was? That's what it was? Yeah, defense wasn't that good. Offense was crazy, right? And I think we put too much, now I'm older looking back on it, we put too much pressure on Mike.

You know what I mean? Like, Mike was nice, but the way Mike plays is like, he's reckless cause he's just a dog. You know what I mean? I ain't sliding, you know? And then like making him throw the ball all game like that, you know,

you can get picks and et cetera. Or if you watch like the way they play with Lamar, even Jaylen Hurts, now some games they will throw the ball a lot more because depending on how the game is. But to have a real good offense, I think we should have Mike run it, you know, couple of times a game, maybe not going over 30 passes.

I think if you break it down like that, yo, the game's more controlled and you're not putting as much on your quarterback. You know, keeping the defense more off balance. Yeah, that too. You know, but this like, we had a lot of turnovers, fumbles and picks and this and that. But I think if you played in a better like game plan, you know, with, with trying to put, cause Mike was so good, you know what I mean? They made him do everything. And I think even when you watch today, like, you got the superstar, but you need them other players.

And if you can control the superstar enough, I think, you know, it goes a little differently. Yeah. Stop your 200 Eagles ended in 2015. You was traded for Kiko Alonzo. Your boy Chip. Let me stop you real quick. Serious question though. Do you know what that is though?

I have no idea who that is. You know what it is? Bro, the day when I heard the trade, Drew Rosenhouse, he said, Shady, he said, this is not a joke, you've been traded. I'm like, man, what is you talking about? Just like, what are you talking about? He says, yo, they traded you to the Bills.

I'm in my in-ams, I'm like, what? And the crazy thing is like after the season, most players, they pack up their locker because the football ain't like basketball. You can be going tomorrow with a five-year contract. But I never touched my stuff. I know what it is. I mean, you won't get rid of me.

So I never really did like that. Dog, and he traded me. And then when I got to the Bills, they said it was the easiest, best trade he ever had. They said, Chip calls, hey, would you guys be interested in LaShaw McCoy? So the GM was like, yeah, for sure. He said, but I was like, ah, they gon' want too much. You know what I mean?

They gon' want too much for him. So he said, he hit him back like, yeah, we would, but we probably can't afford what you want. Chip said, nah, not the GM, Chip. He said, nah, we just want Kiko Alonzo. And the GM at the time was like, when he said that, I was still waiting like, like, all right, him and who else? He's like, no, that's it. He said, he was like, oh, deal. He said, it hung up. He said, I did the deal with Freivan,ling at the coach at the time was Rex Ryan He says I already knew was a dumb deal. I was like wow, that's how you do a trade Everyone's forgotten who runs this Valley time to remind them

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I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball. If only there were a professional WNBA player with her own podcast I could listen to. Hey, this is Lexi Brown, WNBA player and professional yapper. And this is Mariah Rose. You may know me from spilling the tea on Hoops for Hotties on TikTok. And we've got a new podcast, Full Circle. Every Wednesday we're catching you up on what's going on in women's basketball. And not just in the WNBA, but with Athletes Unlimited, Unrivaled, and college basketball. We've got you with analysis, inside stories, and a little bit of tea.

I know you guys have seen a lot of former and current basketball players telling their stories from their point of view, and I just think it's time for the girlies to tap in. We want to share all of the women's basketball stories that you won't see anywhere else. Tune in to Full Circle, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear

friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives. Each week, we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter. And they're plus one, they'll ride or die, as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey. Listen to My Legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. This is My Legacy.

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I speak with musician, photographer, and philanthropist Julian Lennon. One of the really important things that happened to me in my relationship with photography and the images was that I would have people write to me, people that couldn't financially afford to travel the world or go anywhere, couldn't or were disabled and couldn't travel the world or go anywhere.

And what they had all said to me is that you bring these stories to us you bring the truth you bring life to us of Cultures that we would never necessarily know anything about Photography really does allow me to do that have empathy for people on the other side of the world that you'll never ever meet But you you'll at least have some understanding of what their life is and what they went through or are still going through Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But talk to us about Chip back up

because we've heard a lot of shit and I haven't heard it from a player that played for him though. Oh, for real? Mm-mm. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah, he was on, what you wanna know about him?

What you wanna know exactly? How much, how ain't shit he is from what I heard? Yeah, he's crazy. Yeah. He was on, what you want to know about him? What you want to know exactly? How much, how, how ain't shit he is from what I heard. He's a bad coach. Well, no, no, no, no, no. I shouldn't hear a bad coach. He don't know how to, he don't know how to read the room. He don't know how to relate to his players. Like I played on teams where, you know.

That's a bad coach. Yeah. Yeah. You can get away with it on certain levels. Like you can get away with it in college because it's more of a dictatorship. Not being able to relate with your players. But then the pros is different. I mean, but he was winning though. That's why you can get away with it on certain levels. Like you can get away with it in college because it's more of a dictatorship. But then the pros is different. I mean, but he was winning though.

That's why you can get away with it in college because they, college kids have to bowl, now they don't. But back then they had to buy it. And he had great teams at Oregon, but it's a different style and energy of coaching, obviously college and pros. Man, he the only player, he the only coach I ever been around.

He got multiple college championships? No. Yeah, so it ain't work too well. Yeah, he wrong. He ain't winning at all. He ain't saving. He ain't no one that's saving. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

So he ain't winning no championships, that shit ain't working. Yeah, he just fucking everybody up, saying like- Only you bitch out there in two, he been. Well talk to us. Would you happen to be a guy that don't be real? Nah, I'm just feeling this is how you did y'all. Oh he been. We'll talk to him. Would you happen to be that guy that I know? Be real.

Nah, that's for me, cause he's a high-end bitch. Oh, yo, he the only coach, I'm telling you, any color, that the white boys on the squad don't like him, and none of the brothers like him. I ain't never seen that. At least you gonna have someone, none of that. And he was just different, like, I mean, simple things, like, man,

y'all playing on teams with some white dudes that listen to rap or rock and roll. His brothers listen to straight trap music. And then some dudes that come up, they want some Nas, they want some, so everything's different. He like none of that. He was like, hey, in the locker room,

y'all put your headsets in, man, ain't no music. So all the, and I was one of the players, I was like, hold up, hold on, like, you the coach, but this is our team though. You can't tell them what we listen to. And he ain't like some of that, you know? Simple shit like when I was a rookie, you know, the Vicks and something, same as they had the big cars and all that, and I had to wait to get that.

So once I earned it, I was trying to get my big wheels like they did and come to the games, right? You get the outfit on, a nice little, take the pictures, you know, cause you just fall in line. Okay, that's what the O'Hays did it, that's what I'm gonna do when I get it. This dude, he say, yeah man, for now more, you know, y'all drive your cars to the game on Saturday.

And then we ride the school bus to the game, because we a team, we got to look the same. He said, then after the game, you can take your fancy cars, you know, to the house. I'm like, so wait, you want to control what cars you driving or how we coming to the games? Slay mentality. Bro, I mean, I'm talking about, bro has stuff like, okay, I'm black.

I like black socks. I don't know. I just like black socks, right? He said, yo, on my team, we only wear white socks. I say, coach, man, every year I'm going to go for like 1200 to almost 1400 yards. Like, I do it in black socks. Now I'm trying to like joke with you because I don't want to make this awkward for you because you're the coach and I'm the player, but we talking about socks. I said,

we talking about socks right now, coach. He said, yeah, that's the rules. And he never was confrontational. He was soft, trying to reason with you. So I was like, okay, coach, you got it. So I would wear black socks and put white tape on it. So when I would go out there, he said, I could see the black. I said, you see white, you see the white tape. It's just so many little things, bro. He would monitor how much sleep we get.

So he's like, yo, winning teams need to sleep a certain amount of hours. I said, well, look, coach, you know, some of these dudes is young, they won't step outside to be winning the game. They want to party a little bit, right? With girls, they age. Some of these dudes, they got, they older, they got kids.

The baby might wake up two year old or one year old or whatever at two in the morning. They got to get up. He didn't want to hear that. So he would, he would, he would drug test us and he would, and he would. He drug tested y'all. Now, I don't smoke, so I didn't really complain about it. So he would drug test us and he would- He drug tested y'all. Now I don't smoke so I didn't really complain about it. But I would have to speak up

cause you know, cause nobody really wanna go against it. He's one of them dudes. And I'm like, well look man, like dudes on foot comfortable smoking. I mean they on foot comfortable coming to you about you drug testing them. Like if the rules for the NFL is you drug test on whatever it is and he has.

What are you doing? What are you talking about right now? I said, coach man, I said, listen, bros, this is a football team, coach. This is our last real issue. I said, coach, this our football team, man. But listen, you know, you running this shit like a jail, like a PO office.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and you gonna lose, they gonna be scared to come here because they gonna hear rumors. I ain't going to Philly. They talking about coach, drug test, and maritime, they go to practice. Was he the coach to give Raleigh Cooper the extension?

He's another one. Yeah. Yeah, so that's even worse. That let you know what type of person, after he publicly at the concert, nigga, oh, listen out loud, you know what I'm saying? It's still just, right, come back. And that's crazy.

Yo, look, when he was there, right, check this out. So I told you he was Mike for everything. Cause Mike's the OG. Mike said, we gonna do it. Rare it is. So Cooper does that little stuff you just said, right? So it's everywhere now. So we, so it's a lot of dudes in there that

they wanna holla at him. Now it's cool, cool. He in the office younger, so it was weird for me cause now I'm mad at him, but he look at me like I'm big bro, you know? He texting me like, he sorry and all that. I ain't really holla him at the time. So anyway, when he come there,

Chip made me wait like a day or two. So we ain't seen, right? Outside of the mall, we ain't really seen, but it's on the media everywhere. So when he gets there, it's after practice. He calls all in the main like meeting room and he brings Coop out there. He let's Coop say sorry, whatever. This is on third.

And then he hides him again for another like couple of days. So we never really seen him. He had the day he was going to show up. He had Mike tell the team, like, look, he said, look, man, you know, I'm from the South, I'm from this and that, and if y'all ain't ever say nothing about Samar, you know what I mean?

Or say words about this and that behind closed doors, you know what I mean? Y'all can't be offended, you know what I mean? You could be mad, but you gotta forgive your brother because y'all did it before. So I get his message, right? You know, we all say things that we don't mean, et cetera. So then when Coop came back, it wasn't as bad because, you know, the big dog spoke on

it. You know what I mean? But if it was anybody else, shit wouldn't did all that. You know what I mean? That is a tough situation because it is real. I mean, a white dude saying that about blacks, it's a bigger thing, but he just was good at like, shit like that, where if it was one of us,

he wouldn't did all that. And a lot of shit come out of my mouth, but the C and the H words never came out of my mouth, for no reason. Yup, yup. I don't give a fuck behind closed doors or not. Those words never come out of my mouth. I have no reason to.

So you didn't say it before, or you didn't got comfortable saying it to say it like that. And you know what to get to, it is the music. They singing every song word for word, so you expect them to be squirming up to pause at that point. Yeah, nah, shit, hell nah. But I, you know, so I- Nah, nah, nah, but it went on music. That's not why he said it. He wasn't rapping. Nah, nah, he wasn't. He was at a country concert or something, right?

I don't know, Chesney? Yeah. Kenny Chesney, Kenny Chesney. That's how I know, look. So the security guard was like, he was black, dude had all white country songs and all that concert. And the dude was being, he wasn't listening to cool. He ain't know what he was. He was trying to get backstage, all that concert. And the dude was being, he wasn't listening to Coop. He ain't know what he was.

He was trying to get backstage, all that type of stuff. And he said, I'll kick your nigger asses. That's crazy. We was like, whoa. But to his defense, he said he didn't, he was like, he was mad. And the first thing came to his mind to make this guy man of the offended.

Oh, no, that's weak. That'll work. That's weak, that's weak. That's weak. That's weak. That's weak. I didn't see the whole, I didn't got to deal with a whole bunch of Karens in different stores. And I ain't never called them a racist, sir. No, you right.

I might've called a bitch a stupid hoe or some shit like that. Dumb bitch, fat ass out of here, some shit like that. We get it. Okay, my man. We get it, wait, wait, wait. But wait, wait, but dog, you know what's crazy though? I'll tell you.

Never went racial though. Right, right, right. Yo, I put it the same way like, yo, if I'm mad at a white person, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait'm married, practice. I'm like, how the hell is this dude on the team? He went to Oregon. Nah, I'm like, yo, you got a dude that played at freaking Alabama and he black, right? Why he in the game? We had white receivers. I'm like, yo, we got all these, he don't even, how he make the squad? And I'm not even trying to be funny because there's some white boys that can play though. Yeah. Yeah. We don't have them white dudes. You know what I'm saying? If you want to get the white boys, I'm cool with all that. I love my white team that's got all my boys. All my best friends is white, you know? But give me some good ones though. I don't want those brothers that's black that can't play white boys.

I don't care what color they got to be able to play. We trying to win dog. Yeah. Well he, I can go in for hours. Yeah. That dude. Yeah. Sour Milk. Oh my God. I can see somebody supposed to, you?

Oh, I wouldn't have made it. I ain't played. You too, I think about it. I didn't really fuck with the coaches too much. I, yeah. You won the championship with Brady and the other Mahomes. What's the contrast between them two in leadership? That's a good one.

So some of the similarities I would say like competitors. Brady ain't trying to lose in nothing. Like, and he's all nice and all that. He turns it on when it's time to win. Shit, I remember when I... Man, he got so many stories I can tell you about Brady. He just love to win, bro. At all costs. Packed the same way. Dudes ain't catching the ball, they ain't playing certain way. Dudes hurt. I got it. I'm gonna do it. I remember one time we

had this game and we was trying to, I guess, clinch the playoffs, whatever. And the tackle, at the time, I won't say his name, but he was acting like he was hurt. Now you know something big used to be soft as hell. Like bro, you know what I mean? Put your helmet on, put your mouth piece on, let's go play. You six, eight, like, come on man. Talk about his ankle or his toe or that. Anyway, so Patton in the training room, so for the whole week, he's checking up on him, checking up on him. Now the training room, I was in basketball and football, it's like the hangout spot. All right.

So by Friday, Pat coming in like, is he playing? What's going on with him? Now Pat's the type of person where, this is why I love Pat, because he's his self. He don't try to act like he's something he's not. You know what I mean? He's his own person.

He's listening to his music. He gonna listen to some J. Cole. He gonna listen to some white stuff. You know what I mean? He's his self. That's why I love Pat. The dude now, he been the quarterback. Hey man, how you feeling?

All week he's been trying to butter him up because he's the tackle. You need him. I don't know, man. I'm still kind of not comfortable. He doing all this shit with his shoulders and all of that. I ain't feeling good, right? So I'm watching it.

You know I'm in here, I'm watching this shit. I'm like, oh man, bro, I don't think, bro, play it. Pat walk off. I'm gonna win it anyway, with him or without him. And he win that fucking game. That's the type of players, even when you watch games where they ain't catching the balls or they ain't doing this and that,

the second half, he gonna do it. If he's running, if he's extending it. So you can see the greatness. Cause I played with Vic, Mena, Josh Allen, my homes, so I seen all the best ones. But when you see the real greats, you see the difference. Pat, Brady, like, I remember the Super Bowl, man, like with Brady, cause you asked about the similarities

or whatever. We playing the Bucks. Earlier that year, the Bucks beat the hell out of us. So the coaches like, yo, look, man, they gonna play this coverage, just in the third. So Brady used to have his own meetings. So he called the skill position, like quarterbacks, running backs,

obviously you be tight ends. He said, yeah, I heard what Coach said. They not going to play us in that shit. He started, we met together. Then when we left, he sent us individual like recordings. Like he was in his crib watching tape. He going over every D back. This is Super Bowl week, it's just crazy.

He's like, yo, this dude right here, you know, he lacks long speech, so he holds a lot. You can beat him with go balls. This dude right here, you know, he doesn't do well against, oh, he's only good at his own. He gonna do all the players, starters and backups. I'm like, damn, this dude must have took two days. No eating, no sleeping, going over every position. So he said, look, they gonna play us in this coverage.

When we got to the game, they played us in the same coverage that Brady talked about. Why the coaches saying they gonna do this. He has his own little meeting saying they gonna do that. And he did it. I'm like, this white boy is cold. Cold. Oh, bro.

That's hard. Different. So when you ask him. That's exactly what they did. Come on, man. And then they both both like it's crazy cause when I went to the Chiefs, Pat was asking me about Josh Allen

cause Josh is talented as well. You know what I mean? Josh Cole. He wanted to know and he got brothers in him. You'll love him cause he's put like a brother. And you can't jump him. Yeah. And then when I went to the Bucks,

Brady was low key asking me about Pat. I said, look at these niggas, yo. Okay. They lowkey trying to figure out what, you know what I mean? But that's cold though. That's like, that's like, cold heat. But you name three greats that you bounced from, you know what I mean? So it's just like, they want to get any, any, any edge up or any advice they can get. Yeah. Freaking Josh. They all got dog on them. Only they ain't about Josh's dog though.

Cause I'm a Pat Siller with a dog. He like a brother at home. Josh, you can come at him a little bit, cause we teammates, you know what I mean? But certain things he ain't gonna let fly. You know, certain quarterbacks, mentioned some white boys, you know, brothers can get away with doing a little extra.

He ain't with it. Cause in the football game, he gonna run you over. We playing that game, the dude was talking shit to him and all that. You know what I mean? Bet. He try to run him over, he's a linebacker. That's how he play.

So when anybody that play with him, they love him. Cause he just, you know, cause most quarterbacks ain't gonna give you everything cause you ain't protecting theyself. You know what I mean? He ain't with all that shit he just, you know, cause most quarterbacks ain't gonna give you everything cause you ain't protecting yourself. You know what I mean? He ain't with all that shit. Oh, we practicing? I'm practicing.

Oh, it's a fight and practice? I'm in there fighting too. You'll never see that. I'm a quarterback for sure. Yeah, I pat the end. Can my home surpass Brady? Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot though.

And it gonna be easy. But I think where they at today, I think he's way more advanced than Tom. You know, we look at just the MVPs, how fast, the yards. Think about this for a second. The worst we've ever seen Patrick Mahomes is an AFC championship game. I mean, you know what I'm saying?

Every year he going. And he's more of the main reason. I think some of Brady's joints, he was still just getting up in there, you know what I mean, learning a little bit, you know, letting the defense kind of play it out. Now the way Brady finished that shit was crazy. Like I leave the Wingling, I'm gonna get a championship.

Every other year I'm in the Super Bowl, like Tom is definitely different. And he was 40 years old doing it. You know what I mean? That's gonna be hard to do. When the Kaepernick situation was going on, what was the vibe and how were the players talking, you know, when Jerry Jones was not letting the players

kneel and stuff like that? Yeah, we hated that though, you know, cause it's like, you know, I don't know the reason why Cap was doing what he was doing, right? Because everybody had their own opinion on it, but definitely now I'm older, I respect it because he brought light to it. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes in football or in sports, it's like you matter, it matters to you who's saying

something or what they saying about. And when you're in a game where you see that and not with him, cause he wasn't the player to be, you know, whatever it is. But the message was powerful. I'm like, damn. Cause like, when you play ball, the team and everybody teach you a certain way and you blacking on that, right?

But then you got homeboys or you might see some on TV that might lose their life, right? And they black, but they don't have the star power you got. Shit's still wrong, you get what I'm saying? Shit still hurt. So you start looking at things different, like damn, well if that, or if I wasn't all decade running back,

yo, that could have been me on the, you know what I mean? So that was tough to deal with, man, have been me on the, you know what I mean? So that was tough to deal with, man, because then you see the ownership, and the Bills is really, really good at it, you know what I mean? Good ownership. So it was cool, but other teams, when I talked to my homeboys, they're like, yo, man, we can't nail.

They're like, oh, this is America. What you mean you can't nail? How can they tell you that? And they don't want to upset their season ticket holders. And I'm like, so, okay, so you don't really care for me for real. It's a business to you though. You know what I mean? So when that whole thing's going on, you really was questioning a lot of relationships with

different people in high positions. Because like, do you really care for me for real? Or is it just, you know what I mean? It ain't on who it is. He met with his whole livelihood on the line. That's what people don't understand. I mean, yeah, I know who it is. His whole livelihood on the line. That's what people don't understand. And then the thing for him is,

he probably never been like another, you know, starter in all that, right? But he still would have been on somebody's team. You get what I'm saying? Oh, he still would have played, yeah, there's no doubt. You know what I mean? But I'm saying like, because he spoke out on something, now he can't play.

But they still have an issue about it. Right. But back then though, right, I'm gonna though, when I was on the other side, when I first heard about the whole thing, I'm like, yo, this dude making a big deal, like why he? And I was saying like, if it was a bigger player, like a Brady, he knew and all that, they'd have found a way to make it okay.

It's a Braves black, you know what I mean? Because he matters. But that's how we all was thinking at first. But that ain't the main thing, you know, that don't matter, that matters what's right and wrong. And what he was speaking on was right. At the time, a lot of players, like even myself, we didn't really understand what he was really saying.

You know? Everybody to your defense, I mean, like I said, you worked your way out of that in your own bubble. Oh, you're right. You know what I mean? So I think you made everyone kind of look outside the bubble, like what's really going on to our people. PA upbringing, a lot of talent from out that way.

Yes, we do. Yourself, Aaron Dono, Saquon, Durrell Rivas, Micah Parsons to name a few. We from the same town. He from like outskirts. What's it? It's the water out there, the air. What is it out there? Maybe just, the force, what is it, the air, what is it out there?

Maybe just, you know, Ricky Waters. Ricky, come on dog, like Parsons, you know what I mean? Come on, oh, Marcus Coulson, Marcus Coulson, receiver. Yeah, from the Saints. We got a couple of caps, you know. Yeah, more than a couple. What was it like coming up out there?

I was cool, it was good. You know, sports was always a thing. It's like, either you play sports or you was in the streets, right? You know, I had an older brother, sports was always a thing. It's like, either you play sports or you was in the streets. Yeah. You know, I had an older brother, he played in the pros and you know, then I had my pops. It's funny, like, I don't know how everybody's like raised

in the areas, but around from like, if you was really really good at something sports wise, like certain places you just couldn't go. And I don't know if it's like that now, you know what I'm saying? Now, nothing's a hundred percent, kids can get in trouble with anything they do, but it's like certain times at night,

like certain OGs wouldn't let me be around that long. Okay, Shady, you doing okay, cool. All right, man, get your ass home. Like, you know what I mean? So it was more of like a whole community that was looking out. Where now I be be feeling like, some of the OGs now be kind of okay with the young boys.

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Millions of listeners have fed their good wolf. Now it's your turn. Listen to the one you feed on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You heard you was nice and hoop. I was. They told you I was like, Iverson. Who was your game like? Iverson? Did they, they told you that too? I think you told me that. No, I'm saying, no, no, you heard I was nice. who? I was, they told you I was like, I was- Who was your game like, Iverson? Did they, they told you that too? I think you told me that. No, I'm saying, no, no, you heard I was nice. I'm saying they didn't tell you that. I thought I heard you was nice.

I heard you was nice from you though. I didn't hear from no one else. I heard you was nice from you. I gotta be honest dog. Listen, I told you story, I'm gonna tell you again. I'm not gonna let you disrespect Chuck like that. Yo, that's my, listen, that was my childhood idol, dog. In my room, cuz I had a million irons in post-apocalyptic.

You know what I'm saying? Not even no pause, no nothing, like that was my man. Right. So, one time I'm in Virginia with Mike Vick, my man, right? We in a, he had like a little event, whatever, we in the club. And I think maybe my third year, I was young. Him and Chuck from the same hood.

They from the same hood. Yeah. Right, we in Virginia. I'm like, oh shit, dog. I'll tell my man, yo, there's a little Irishman over there, right? I'm an Irishman fan, you know? Now it's him and that.

You know, I adapt to him. What's up, homie? Yeah. What's up? What's up? Love, homie. Get up. Get up, hey, get up. Yeah, like, get up. Get up, hey, get up.

Yeah, like, get up. Whole time, like, oh shit, A.I. just took my hand. So we seen, so Vic, like, yo, this is my man Shady. So I'm like, oh, man, you know, A.I., nice to meet you. So he like, now, if you know A.I., he's always like, this is my first meeting, he's always like happy. Super affectionate. And real, and lovey. Yeah, he's like, give me a hug, okay.

Oh, he said, oh, man, Oh, little nigga, man. Hey, he calls home with a come here. He said, what I think about this little nigga right here, man. So now my oh, he know me though. So now I'm doing AI know me. He says, yeah, you say he he remind you you used to play football. So I'm like, damn, he was nice like that. And I hate him thinking that. So so so hold up. I will say that you was nice like that. So I'm like, damn, he was nice like that. In my head I'm thinking that. So hold up, cause I ain't gonna say that. You was nice like that? I'm thinking like that. So I go, I didn't say this because I was still awestruck.

But when he walked off, I said, Mike, that's crazy he said that about me in high school. Cause I'm like, damn dog. He, I remind him, or he reminds me of me when I played high school basketball. I'd have been like that. So we basically, we got the same type of mutual respect. Y'all got the same kind of bullshit.

Like he think he was me, I think it was him. Yeah, man. So. That's what Mike said? No, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, when you see the episode, the feelings mutual, bro. Know what I mean? That fucking hell. You know what I'm saying? So when he said it like that, just know this,

he thought of me like on the football field. I was on the court. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but your last organized basketball was what, seventh grade? Something like that. Oh no, no, no, no, no, hold up. He say something like. No, no, no. Y'all play, y'all, y'all successful hoopers.

It makes the elite level. Did y'all play, did y'all play freshman, seventh grade as freshmen or no? No, I didn't. Ninth grade was my freshman. But I never played for freshman basketball. Well, what about in the seventh, eighth grade? I think I sat the bench for one of them years,

but I was good enough to be on the bench as a seventh grader in ninth grade or 18. And in eighth grade, I was nice and a freshman, but then I went to just, I can't say I got reclusive. You said you was a seventh grader on the ninth grade dance. Yeah, yeah. Middle school and high school was one?

No, but it's the same. Like, is the public school the same. So you're saying you were good enough to go sit on the pressure. That's what I'm saying, bro. That's all I'm saying. Were you good enough to play though? Yeah, no, I mean, I played. I mean, I played, like I played something.

I played. The eighth grader was nice though. The eighth grader, I was really, I was, bro, as a seventh grader, I was playing with the ninth graders. I didn't start when I still was playing. No, I'm saying. Okay, so maybe I'm shipping because in my high

school is nine, 10, 11, 12. It is but basketball. I didn't go to school with the ninth graders. They just let you go play at the high school too. They do it somewhere. They don't do it everywhere. In some cities, you can go up

So what I'm so what I'm saying is there is there So, how can you be in a High school, it's just probably like their filter high school their feeder high school that the middle school They probably get to go there feeder high school. It's just probably like their field or high school, their feeder high school, the middle school, they probably get to go to their feeder high school. Anyway, just know this dog, just know this. You know, and I didn't play high school basketball. You know what I'm saying? But when I watched some of these players, they talk about comparisons, right?

You can play everything. So when I watch guys like AI and I see the quickness, quick twitch, fast, explosive, okay, then I see like Kyrie Irvin I see these little mixture. All right, cool You had a lot of that you definitely had that on the field you definitely that yeah, you master that start no questions And I was I was working hard when I was ice. I kind of stopped working as hard when the high school work harder shit So I don't shoot 100 500 jump shots a game or a day, but we'll never know.

We'll never know. You said we'll never know. We'll never know. That's a true story, A.I. shit's a real story. I'm like, damn, you what? Me? I wanna say it so fast, like, damn, that's crazy, cause I thought the same thing about you.

Now we're done talking about the bullshit, back to the real shit. What you really can do. Amazing, God willing, Hall of Fame football career almost never happened. Compound fracture you had suffered in high school. Yeah. What happened?

Yeah, just man, like I was, that was crazy. So, you know, at this time, right, I'm the number one running back in the country, probably like eighth or something overall, you know what I'm saying? Like 70 scholarships. I was doing my thing. Then my senior year,

I had like a thousand yards in three games, dog. I was really balling. So I break my ankle to our rival school. Damn. And then I go for- Ricky, your name Ricky? I go for the, and I get hurt. So I'm probably getting calls a day from my head coaches. You know, you're 17, you think you know everything, you know?

And when I got hurt, man, like I should all stop. Like I went from 78 college trips to like four. I remember I committed to Miami, you know, and then I had to go to prep school, like the rehab I ain't cool. And I stopped going to school, I was all messed up. And these dudes would be at my school recruiting dudes and wouldn't even come out at me.

You know what I'm saying? But you was just a five star. You was just the number one player. And I was just begging me dog. P Curl, this one with Reggie Bush was Reggie Bush. Running through LA. He hosted you on your visit, right? Come on bro.

He had it laid out. I'm talking about him. We went shopping and shit. This was before NIF. We went shopping, they closed the store down. They like, get what you want. I'm like, damn. You know what I'm saying?

Kim was out, this one I didn't know who Kim was, but she was around, she was all right, she was cool. They had all the girls, they had everything. But that was a nice little trip. But anyway, so I go from that to USC, not even answering my calls, that's dead. Yeah, that Hollywood shit was over after that. And I didn't really have no more schools.

So then Penn State was a school I wanted to play for. It's like a hometown, you know what I mean, school. But Paterno was different. I won't, you know, rest in peace. I won't get into that, but he had his own perception of me before he even knew me, you know? But that didn't work out in Pitt, then he wants those NFL coach.

It just worked out, because he's like me. NFL coach, he want ballers, you know what I mean? He don't care about all the little stuff. And I remember I was going to commit to Penn State anyway, just to prove Joe Paterno wrong that I'm a good kid and all that. And my dad's like, nah, yo, you gave Pittsburgh your word that you would at least take one visit

before you make a decision. That's why I've been saying like, yo, real dads matter though. Cause like something small like that, hold up, man. You gave him your word that you would at least take one visit before you make a decision. That's why I've been saying like, yo, real dads matter though. Cause like something small like that, hold up man, you gave me your word, you going back up there. I'm like, but dad, I don't wanna, I don't care you gave me your word.

So I go back up there and I loved it. Now the team one that's good, you know what I mean? But the players were like me, city kids, you know, they was, it was cool. The coaches was NFL coaches. So they liked talent versus seniority and all that. The politics, yeah. It worked out, you know, he gave me a chance

to get my name back. I remember telling me like, yo, you know. So I go from up here to down here. How long it take you to rehab and get back to feeling like yourself? So when I was in preschool, I didn't even start. Dude, some dude beat me out, cause he was going to Miami.

And I'm, imagine me, you know how I play. I'm like quick and shift. I was running dudes over. I was out of shape. You know what I mean? I was all messed up. Anyway, so they would come see him, the other kid, going to Miami.

And then it took me about a year and a half to really get myself together. So then I leave there in a year and I go to the pit. So now my mind's different. Okay, it's my second chance. You know, and all these people count me out. You know what I'm saying? And I went from people that was on my,

just doing everything I wanted to do with me, with my boys, this, that, there, and now they kind of left me, nobody texting me. So I said, okay, cool. So when I got to the pit, I did my thing. You know, I only really did like a year and a half and I went straight to the league, but that was a good point for me

because when I got to the NFL, you know, I still had like the hang-ons and my homeboys and stuff like that. But I slowly left them earlier in my career because I remember like how, like how people really treated me. When you was hurt. Yeah. Damn.

You know what I'm saying? I'm 17, like I ain't, you know, sometimes people do it at eight, eight 30 like how people really treated me. When you was hurt. Yeah. Damn. You know what I'm saying? I'm 17. Like I ain't, you know, sometimes people do it at eight 30 and they play the league all these years and they done. Maybe they might insane, they leave early. I'm 17. So that was a good one for me though to learn from, you know.

Where the name, nickname Shady come from? Damn. Oh, my mom gave me that name. She said I was always shady as a kid. Like I'd be happy, sad. You know what I'm saying? Up and down. Yeah, and the neighbors picked up on kids in school.

So, but I ain't shady no more. That shit, this is a name. You know how fuck with you one day, fuck with you the next day, I'm good on him. Like, I don't know more. What are you saying from Saquon? He broke your record. He doing his thing, ain't he? Yeah, so we are, so me and Saquon are always being cool.

He from Pennsylvania, whatever. And, you know, we was talking about even coming to the Eagles. I'm like, yo, what's the right, you know, place? It's on third. We do a golf, we did a golf iron this year, about just a year. I knew he had a big year, not like this, but a big ass year.

But now I'm happy for him. He a hell of a player. He been nice since college. I think he got the New York and he had a chance to show it because he was hurt a couple of years and the team wasn't as good. But like, I'm all for uplifting the next generation. It don't matter how good Saquon Barkley do. I'm already made. Right.

Can't take that away from me. Right. So when people be like, yo, you ain't mad about me? Nah, man, like, bro, I got some good numbers. I'm about to be in the Hall of Fame next year. Yeah. So I want them to do good because it's funny. You know, everything's in competition, right?

But. As players, you always that love the people, that love the game, you always a fan of the game. So before I even knew him, he was a fan of me. He would tell me these things. He broke the record. He said, yo, it's crazy to be when he first broke the record in the game. Because I went to the game and our hero was in the Rams game. I was with the owner, we was watching the game, whatever. And on the mic, he said, yo, yo, that's, yo, we broke, yo, we broke Shady's record, right? And I took that as like, that's a retardant respect

because I actually know him. So I know he got respect for me, but if I didn't know him and I heard that, you get what I'm saying? It mattered to him. Then when we talked, me, he's like, yo, bro, breaking records is big. That's why I like the shit going on with Eric Dickinson and all that,

like, yo dawg, you an OG, you a legend, homie. You had Jerry Kelly, you was scoring touchdowns for the Rams, like that was big. Now you got a chance to pass your record down to Saquon. That's the same way OJ passes to you. Because in my, like right now if you look, I'm probably with like six highest pay running back of all time. Football been around for years, right? I never had a problem getting a contract. I do my thing, I get busy, pay me. Top of the market. Some of these other dudes that did the same, not maybe as much as I did, but are doing

really well, they not having a chance to get them contracts. So when we have a situation where a 40 year old record can be broken for the next generation, why won't you let this dude do it? And why you mad about it? Because Josh Jacobs running back for the Packers was nice. He played for the Raiders, they weren't that good, he still was busy. He led the league in rushing. I remember talking to him, he's saying that the Raiders didn't even offer him a contract. I'm like, how not? It's like being a scoring champion, don't even, what are we talking about? Saquon balls out, he is the New York Giants. And you'd rather pay Daniel Jones. Yeah.

Can't even on the team no more. The market's messed up, but you can go, you can be Baker Mayfield get a second chance. Now they talk about Sam Doran get a second chance. Trevor Lawrence is God awful. Awful. He's the second highest or third highest paid quarterback in football.

Jordan Love is good though, right? But you gonna make him the highest paid quarterback after one year? Cause if that's the running back or wide receiver, you're not doing that. C.D. Lamb's the most, you account for his running. Yeah. Say what you want my C.D. Lamb, he balls though.

He cold. He cold. If he's not better than Justin Jefferson, okay, whatever. But they close though. So you telling me in the open market, bro, and it's my time to get a deal, I can't jump over him contract wise. Right.

But you gonna tell me that Lamar Jackson, Josh Alley, Patrick Holmes can't get jumped over by Trevor Lawrence? You get what I'm saying? That's crazy. They got the game so messing with the quarterbacks. So that's why I was mad with Eric Dickerson, because I'm like, yo, if he breaks his record now, dudes like Doug Henry that has 1,200 yards and still balling

won't take a $7 million contract. So I'm like, he making $8 million? How? Because they not respecting the running back position. This is a step us stone to do that. So now the next generation, 10, 20 years from now, they gotta respect it. So it's bigger than Saquon and Eric Dickerson.

You get what I'm saying? You're not sitting out there last game. You gonna get that a hundred and four years all the time. You know what's funny? All our homeboys on the chat, you know, that played with the Eagles on that. That's playing there now. I won't say their names, but they played with me

and they playing there now. So you can imagine who that is. They like, if Shady was here, this shit would not go down like this. It would be a whole conversation all week while we not playing. Cause I'm going to get my record. Cause when I'm 50 years old,

I'm 60 years old, and I'm with my kids and all that. And my grandkids. When you just a hundred yards away, bro. And you average 160. And you playing the Johnson, the dudes that got rid of me. In a week.

Yeah, you got to get that record on now. It was set up for him to do it. average 160. And you playing the jocks, the dudes that got rid of me. In a week. Yeah, you gotta get that record on there. It was set up for him to do it. God don't make no mistakes. You don't think playing like that? Oh, so we gonna get rid of you. Okay, we gonna set the Russian record and we gonna play him again.

God set that up. But I mean, I get it. Now he is now, I will say one thing about Saquon that I am not like, he is a great teammate and he puts his teammates first. I did that, but they gotta be with contents. Everything deserves the nuance. I'm for the team, but hold up, man.

Bro, this record been here for 50 years, you know? When your ass is going, you going, I'm going, it's still gonna be here. I can't go get a hundred yards? Cause I gave you 2,000 yards though, for us to be winning and all that. So, you know, but I get the message though, like they had their bi-week, like week three.

So they had a full season. So I understand, but it had been tough though. Let them go get that guy. Cause this dudes, you know what, that's another thing though real quick. I watched his whole week or last week how dudes had- Incentives. They got them.

All on Tad though. I played with Mike Evans. He got hit, he deserved it though. Now Mike he a dog, but I'm saying when I was there with him every time he had 900 yards, I don't give a fuck, what we doing? We gonna get him in style. Right?

That's just sign of respect. Right, come on man. And Brady played for him to get the- That's how it's supposed to go. Yeah, so. Yep, absolutely. And then how Dallas didn't let old boy play the last game to get him a certain amount of snaps. Cooper Rush.

500K. For real? It was 325. Oh, it was, it was. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Trev, Tre Lance. Tre Lance.

Somebody that played the whole season. Yeah. Oh no. But they tried to use that like, oh, you want something to be got. Yeah. Instead of letting that boy get that extra 325,000. That's wild.

But yeah, that's wild. That's why Dallas won't win though. You can't use no new shit like that. But do y'all do them basketball? You can't do people like that. Since Senna's championship? No Senna's like. Some guys do.

Yeah. Some guys do. Yep. All-star game. Championship. You run a ring. But is there anything where like you got to have some points or score or, you know what I mean? That's that's for some big players like you win the championship.

Like you got your contract. We win the championship. You get money. So y'all never had nothing like work. I need a certain amount of points this game. Yeah, because I'll bet. OK. We're going to go out there and play with you. So my boy can get his shit off. Yeah. Yeah, cause I'll bet her. Okay. Like we gon' go out there and play with you. So my boy can get his shit off. Yeah. No, I mean, bonuses happen,

but like I think our money's guaranteed. So no matter how good or bad we play, we can get it. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as you sign your name, baby. Yeah. Damn. So five foot, 200, you getting the whole? Yeah.

Getting all of them. Oh wow, that's a blessing. Man, I got opt out the last year and get a bigger deal. Oh, man, you're blessed. I'm talking like other players. What they did. Yeah. No, no, that's that's. Go ahead. Um, can Jalen Hurts win the Super Bowl?

I think so. I think so. I mean, like, it's all what you want in the quarterback, because obviously you take the Josh Allen's first or you take the Lamar way plays the pack, even the Burrows. But one thing I give Jalen Hurts, bro he find a way to win. And this thing is like, when you talk about other players,

the first thing you gonna talk about is what their attributes are. Yo, his arm is crazy, yo he's accurate. You can't even tackle Lamar. Jalen you gonna say, yo he a winner. There's games I see where he might play awful dog, but we need that last drive, bro he finds a way. And game I see where he might play awful dog, but we need that last drive. Bro, he finds a way.

And I respect that, he's been like that his whole life. Underdog, gotta win. He been a super bro, you know, and lost the top three quarterback, Patrick Holmes, Andy Reid. But I think he can win it all. Our team, I mean, it's bigger than Jalen Hurts. Like AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, Barber Seaviews,

you got Saquon Barkley, your running back, and you got the best office line of football, and your tight end is decent. And you got the number one defense in football. It's set up. If we don't win it this year, maybe next year, cause we are a little young, it might be, cause every team has that window.

Like I look at the Steelers, they ain't leaving. AB is what he is, but AB just nice. Look at the Niners. What's number seven name on defense for y'all? Defensive end. He not there no more. He not there no more? No.

Where he from? He from Jersey. He from Jersey, from Philly and all that. Where he at now? Jets. Jets, okay. We need him, right? Nah, he have a sack this year. Oh, he's from Philly and all that. Where he at now? Jets. Jets, okay. You need him, right? Nah, he have a sack this year.

Oh, he didn't. He said Antonio Pierce just got fired from the Raiders. He did? Wow. We was waiting to see how it was gonna work out. I mean, they just doing shit. You get him one year for real, you fired other coaches in the wing in one year.

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Back in the old days, we were going to hire they people, right? But my thing is, how good can a player do, yo, with one year? Right. I like, I like- Aaron Glenn finna get one of them jobs. Who? Aaron Glenn. He nice though.

He finna get one of them jobs. He nice. Bro. Yeah, you right. Yeah, offense and defense. He crazy too though. You sure right. Offense and defense.

But he don't get enough credit though. Cause that defense is all hurt, banged up. He's still ballin'. Yeah. But Glenn crazy. Glenn is nice. They got a nice team. They gonna be prior biggest matchup. Detroit.

What's gonna happen against the Packers? We gonna beat y'all at Packers. They don't got nothing for us. The quarterback hurt. They all banged up. They ain't beat nobody. Why it's done for the season? It's over.

Yeah, we gonna beat them now. I think it's gonna be the Eagles and the- Detroit. And it's the championship game? Yeah, you can say that. You can say that. You can say that. Sam Donah gotta show me still. Who?

Sam Donah gotta show me. I just gave this whole analogy the other day, man. I say, yo, tell me how this shit would go on y'all sport. A really, really good player that's been balling for. Some years, right? But this year, he's in a slump and he's going on like a eight, six, seven, eight game slump. Ain't playing well.

Eventually, though, this real good player that's confident that he's going to bounce back. Yeah, if you're a sorry player for like six some years, go to a new team though, right new beginning in your seventh year with a really good coach and within like, I don't know, 11 to 12 games you balling. But when that bad moment comes, eventually though, that bad player gonna be the player he is. So I'm thinking like, yo, how y'all just forget how bad of somebody is having a good moment. But there's somebody that's nice. You don't forget his weaknesses or you don't forget when he did

bad. Because I'm thinking like when Lamar Jackson, they love to bring up, oh, his playoffs and all that shit. Oh, he don't want to play playoffs, right? Now, that's true to that. I think he got like two playoff wins. But dude like Sam to play off, right? Now, that's true to that. I think I like two player wins. But dude like Sam Darnold, it's like y'all all believe in this dude. He had 12 good games, 13 good games. Then you talking about paying him? You see what I'm saying?

You gonna pay this dude? He been trash for years. But then a good ass running back, a good ass wide receiver, you don't even pay him. That's why I hate with all like that they play these games. More players in there, it won't be going like that. Hmm, yeah, same dog gotta show me.

Oh, so wait, you from? You from? Texas. Texas, so you from Texas. I don't know why I thought you was from Atlanta at first. I just been living there since 2003. Yeah, man. And you from out here this way, right?

Up north. Up north. What's that, Bay? Bay, Sacramento. I'll be doing real estate, man. I be, so I got some big shit coming up. And so right now I'm helping players like to go back home and develop in their hometown.

That's what I'm doing. Cause I don't care who the person is, nobody's gonna be a bigger star than their hometown. It's not supposed to be, right? So I'm teamed up with, you know, NFLPA, you know, meeting with them and different investors. One of my best friends, Aaron Donald, he got, you know, two affordable projects, right?

So a lot of things are affordable housing. I got like two or three right now going on. And I go to these dudes' neighborhoods, right? I won't even say the names yet but a couple players is really really good go to the city I meet with them meet with the mayors and all that and we get you know respectfully we'll get a discounted price on lots because we're trying to develop them you know we got money you know we have resources we're trying to develop these lots so just the next you know Matt Barnes and up up north, they might not have a shot

because his living situation is not the best. Now he comes to the projects where it's supposed to be like, oh, you're living in the projects? To now, oh damn dog, you're living in the projects too? Oh yeah, because this is all new. It's marble floors, it's all that, right? Let's go. And it's some good money in it.

So now you're going back home, you're helping your community out and you making money. You know what I'm saying? So now we slow this narrative of when ex players, I don't know how basketball is, but a lot of dudes they go, they got no more money when they done. So now, bro, you making money and you giving back to your community and the NFL can be a part of that. That's dope that you brought the NFL in and in, and that's the hardest to find capital when you look like us.

You always want to have to put your own money in. Man, I'll do that too though. Like right now, before I got through funding, I was doing a lot of my own. Now I got a lot of good team behind me and all that. But I seen the model work. Build your starting offense with NBA players. Just skill players.

Just skill players. So like who would you have as your tight end? Oh, I did this with, okay, okay, check it out. Check it out. I'm gonna say the position, you say the player. Okay. Tight end. And it gotta be someone from the NBA?

NBA, yeah. Okay, tight end. I'm going with, I need somebody like six, eight, small four. I'm going with Haka Moore from the Lakers. Yeah, you go, he's a tight end. Cause he got his body frame, you know what I mean? All right, who you going with as your quarterback?

Ooh, quarterback? All right, I need somebody that can move around a little bit, throw, you know what I mean? I'm going with Ant-Man. Ant-Man as your quarterback? All right, I need somebody that can move around a little bit, throw, you know what I mean? I'm going with Ant-Man. Ant-Man as your quarterback? Quarterback, Ant-Man, let's get it. Who's your dog, you know what I mean? Who's your running back?

Ooh, I need somebody that's tough, right? But I want a shifty running back, right? Little Euro step, you know what I'm saying? But physical. Ooh, I like Brunson though, I don't know how fast he is. He quick though. I'm gonna go with... Nah, nah, I don't know if Tyree can take the hit.

Tyree nice though. Fuck that, I'm going with Rushbrook. I'm going with something like Sponsor the Pirates. Yeah, that's good. That's your Peter T. step. That's a Nice though. Fuck that. I'm going to Rushbrook. I'm going to smoke some Sponsor of the Power. That's good. That's your Peter Tessel. That's a great pick. You know what I mean?

That's a great pick. Okay, AP. Okay. Westbrook, AP. Who was your receiver? You know what, you're mad. He be like, fuck. You know what, Rushbrook.

Who was your receiver? Three receivers. Okay. All right. I'm going to go with Shah. Okay. SGA. You know what I mean? SGA, he got that uh-uh-uh. I'm gonna go with a Sha. Okay, SGA. You know what I mean?

SGA, he got that uh-uh. I'm gonna go with him, he gonna be in his slot though. But now I just wanna outside, I need a bigger body, you know, go get her. Mm. No, check that, check that, check that, check that. He my right runner. I wanna, I'm gonna go with Brian. Okay, I was. He my right runner. I'm gonna go with Brian.

I'm gonna go with Brian. I was waiting. I was waiting. I'm gonna go with Brian and slot. Big body, he older now. He ain't really, now he kind of possessing receiver, breaking down, okay? And then my fastball, I need a fastball.

Oh, what's Dre's boyfriend name? Cause he lets you know. Jalen Green. Jalen? Jalen, Jalen Green. Jalen? Jalen, Jalen Green. You know what? How'd you announce this nigga? What's Dre's name? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hey, what's Trey's young boyfriend? She gon' know, you know what I mean?

Anyway, what's his, Jalen? Jalen Green. Jalen Green, now look, you know why? Super athletic. Super crazy athletic, fast, yo, he's fearless, right? And he don't care what nobody fuckin' think, he gon' ball out. Okay, what nobody think?

Yeah, I like him. All right, since you did that, let's go to Bill Y Bill, your ultimate running back. Who's speed would he have? That's football now, right? Yeah, football. All right, speed. Who's speed would he have?

The ultimate running back. It gotta be either Jemarie Gibbs, because he's current, or Chris Johnson. Size. Size. Man, I'm going with it. I'm going with it. I'm going with it. Beast mode.

Yeah. I thought you were gonna say Derrick Henry. That's too big. It's only him, yo. That's what I'm saying. It's only him, yo. All right, strength. Adrian Peterson.

Adrian Peterson, yeah. Yeah. Vision. My vision. I was about to say that. I knew you yeah. Yeah. Vision. My vision. I was about to say that, I knew you was about to say that. My vision. Take them glasses off so they can see your vision. My eyes love.

But I don't. No, no. He said my eyes love. Come on man, see. Look at that. Stack TV going raw. Like come on, raw. So Shady's vision.

Whose hands? Marshall Fogg. Marshall's fall. Easy, easy call, easy call. Or you can go to Damien. Ooh! They both, they both had hands. Marshall started there, Marshall was called. Not good, but at the backfield of Damien, it was crazy.

You right? But I think Marshall is mad. You right, I'm with you, I'm with you. Yeah. I'm with you. Feet, feet. Okay, feet. Barry. Wait, before I see feet, is moves in with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. Feet, feet. Feet.

Barry. Wait, before I see feet, is moves in it? Yeah. That's feet. No, no, no, no. Yes. Moves are in feet. Oh, damn, so I'm supposed to move,

so Juke moves is feet. Yeah, yeah. Barry Sanders. Yeah, easy. And dog. Ooh, I got two good ones. I got one. My main man, Frank Gore.

Frank Gore. I like Gore. Who you was saying? I was gonna say Walter Payton or. What's a good one? I main man, Frank Gore. I like who you was saying. I was going to say Walter Payton or. What's a good one? I was going to say Bo Jackson. Oh, dog. No dog.

Dog was a Walter Payton and nobody did Brian Brown. Brian Brosnan. Yeah, ran through his chest. Mike All-Stars. Jim Brown. That's how the running back. You know, though, the second one you said, you said Jim Brown, Jim Brown. Earl Campbell how the running back he built up. Who was the second one you said? You said- Jim Brown. Jim Brown. Earl Campbell.

What? Earl Campbell. Earl Campbell. I mean, now Jimmy was, well he's just respectful, but I know he was nice. Dawg, he was as big as the lineman. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Earl Campbell though. Earl Campbell, Walter Payton. He put, he, man, Earl Campbell was dangerous. What'd you think about the boy from Arizona State? Scabble? Now, he got dog with him. Yeah.

He got dog with him. He showed me that, because he was doing a lot of crying and whining and shit the whole game, or the first half. Then second half, he just stopped crying and he started throwing passes, catches, he'll like. What's his? I'm saying he was real extra, right?

But he did turn it on though, I'll give you that. He got a chance in the league? Who, Scadable? Mm-hmm. That's a great question. I got the same question about Genty too. Genty, yes. I think Scadable, you don't think he got a chance?

But let me just say, like, hear me out. Cause there's sometimes where like, you don't think a dude can, and then he do it. You know what I mean? But I think he's a, you ever see like a really good college player? Yeah. You know what I mean?

So he's like that. Cause I don't, he ain't even super quick. I was watching his game. He don't really read the holes well. And he's big. In the league, they big too though. Like all that, you know what I'm saying? You know, and if I was talking about explosion,

then you know, I just, I don't know. He ain't showing me, showing me he's really talented in college. You want to see. You got to see, you want to see. Yeah. Now Jitzy going to be hard. He didn't show no talent.

He just did everything out there on the field during the game. You see what I'm saying? He did everything, bro. He like T-Bow, like T-Bow was good at that. I'm assuming he good at college. He did everything out there. Rece like T-Ball, like T-Ball was good at that. I'm assuming he was good in college. He did everything out there. Receiving, throwing the motherfucker, running it.

He did it all. Quick hitters, first thing to come to mind, let us know. Top five running backs of all time. Gale Sears, Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, Marshall Falk, LaDamian Thomas. I like, and I love OJ too. I know, I know. Rest in peace to the juice. Come on dog.

He was a good player. I drink orange just because of the juice. My dad said I used to drink orange juice because of the juice. My dad said, you gon' drink OJ juice. Yeah. You did. One album you can listen to with no skips.

Oh man, okay, this is my lane. So I grew up a 50 cent fan though. I'm more 50. I like 50. So, Get Rich or Die Tryin', I'ma go there, I'ma go, I'ma go, do I want to go Biggie? I love Biggie.

Nas, I'm gonna go with, what album is that? It was written. It was written, it was crazy. What's Gigi's album? Trappada, fuck no man. Thug Motivation. Thug Motivation, I still listen to that drink.

I like East Coast music. Trappada. Yeah, me and DJ, I argue about this. I don't really listen to West Coast. I know a couple of them dudes like Kendris Nice, you know what I'm saying? But I like it. I Coast music. Trapper Da. Me and DJ, I argue about this. I don't really listen to West Coast. I know a couple of them dudes like Kendra's nice. You know what I'm saying? But I like it. I'm looking for music.

Who was your childhood crush? Oh, Chick. Oh, I hit my childhood crush twice. I can't put it on. I can't do it. Yeah, don't do that to her. You fucked it up. Who was it?

Who was her childhood crush? She used to be bad as fuck though. What did she do though? What did she do? She's an actress. Okay. She was bad as shit when I though. What did she do though? What did she do? She's an actress. Okay. She was bad as shit when I had her. Now she's old as, and she reaches for everybody.

Well that's dope you hit your child crush, everybody can't say that. Right. Well I mean she was, she can't take it. I mean I'm 21, 20. That's wild. Cause she was way older than me. On some dread shit.

Man. Nah, nah, me. On some dread shit. Man. My sleep is crazy. Five dinner guests dead or alive. You plus five at the dinner table. Say that again? Five dinner guests dead or alive. Oh, it could be like famous or his own? Anybody, yeah. Anybody you want at your dinner table.

Oh man. Mr. Laurie, he was owner. Oh man, Mr. Laurie, he was owner. My parents, okay. And then my kids, that's five. We ain't never had no one like that. That's five. All family, people you love. If you didn't play in the NFL,

you wanna know if I wanna ask this question? Yeah, cause I don't need that. What would be your job? What would you do? Yeah, cause I don't need to. What would be your job? What would you do? Yeah, because we might be fucking workers, like coworkers. Teammates? We might be teammates.

Yeah, yeah, like, y'all may be, yo, Shady Man, get back on defense. You might be doing that. Y'all may be acting crazy. You be cutting your hands to pass you the rock. Talking about what would I do if I played football. We already knew the answer to that one. We already knew the answer to that one. Now you know what though, for real, for real.

Yo, I would be, I would be Birdman. That Birdman? Yeah. I would sign all the rappers. I'd be on the city, city, state, you know what I mean? Putting our young boys on. Yeah. Okay.

I'm a real leader though. What happened to that boy? Yeah. How about I see him, he's like, hey man, I love the show. You gotta get a real nigga on there. So you don't bury it all smooth. I'm like, yeah, yeah, my iron, who you got in mind? He's like, niggas like niggas like me. He said who you got in mind. Wait, hold on. I'm like, yeah, you gotta get some real niggas on niggas like me. Like, wait, hold on.

I'm like, yeah, we gonna get some real niggas on there and talk that football or talk that sport shit. I'm like, all right, man, who? Who, niggas, you got an online for me, dog. He looking at me like, what? Niggas like me, you know what I'm saying? Say, give me your number, I'm gonna get with you. Like, I'll be.

The producer was like, ah, you sure you want Bird, man? It's after he was getting all crazy and all that. But I'm gonna get him on the show. Shout out Bird, shout out Bird. Oh, that's the OG. Oh, that was some funny shit he said there. That seemed like a basketball game. He was saying that shit.

I said, okay. What's your guilty pleasure? What you mean? Exactly what I asked? Somebody said yesterday said pussy. What's your guilty pleasure? That's crazy, man. My mom watch y'all shit.

You know, guilty, you know, this is crazy, but like I'm gonna say, success. Okay. You know what I'm saying? You be feeling like, can't even really even like, cause I'm a natural talker. I talk shit. You know what I mean? And sometimes people be like, oh, he's so arrogant.

But my shit really be like funny. You saying something. Yeah, you saying something. You saying something. Cause like I love to celebrate cats. You know, it's crazy. I mean, sometimes I use y'all as examples. You know, the people that got chemistry that's doing they thing, but you know, but, but yeah,

that's process because you feel bad to like, damn dog, like, you know, I made it and like my main man didn't. And I'm buying what I want and he can't, it's like. Yeah, I like that. I can dig that. I like it. One guess that you would like to see on all the smoke. But I had a couple, I seen a shit y'all posted.

But you have to help us get your answer on the show. I don't even know Denzel. We don't even, but somebody else promised us, Will Smith, wherever you at, yeah, you promised us to get Denzel on the show, Will Smith, and we haven't seen you or heard from you, so brother, brother, brother, brother. Help us out, baby.

Call Denzel, no, we'll pull the phone out. He gonna be at the game now. He gonna be at the equal game. You about to get with him. You know what I wanna see y'all with though? Cause I wanna hear what they got to say is one of my good brothers, my agent brother. Yeah, AB.

He got a real story, though. He do, he do. Shout out, AB. He could go from different superstars. You know what I mean? I need to get him on my boxing show for sure. That's my man. I'm gonna probably should hit him up about it. I'm after, I hope y' boxing show for sure. That's my man. I'm a pro hit him up about it.

I'm after I get him on. That's my man. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck with bro. Man, we appreciate you man. Congratulations on all the success. Shady.

Yeah, it's been fun man. Watching your growth and working together. We look forward to hopefully doing some more stuff in 2025 with you bro. You got to. Continue success. The crush was crazy though. Yeah.

Man, I want that gumbo you talking about. I'm gonna make it right now. I'm gonna make it right now. Man, just a wrap. I'm on the duty. Shane McCord. Oh, wait, wait, hold on. I already got the book, dog.

I already got the book. I need another gift. Yeah, I got the book already on. It's some drip in there. It's some drip in there. It's in my living room. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I got y'all shit.

Good appreciation. Good appreciation. I support all my people, dog. Okay. Yeah. I got you. We appreciate you. I support all my people dog. Okay. All right. Oh yeah. We got the uh Philly loves all this look right here. Yeah. Oh wait. Y'all want to drink? You can wear that. Hey and it's Eagles green. We tried to have that. You had to work. I came out that drink with y'all. We had to wear it to the game. I'm out there. Oh okay. Yeah. Gonna rock it to the playoff game. Shout out to our sponsor, Draft Kings. The crown is yours. The crown is yours. I gotta read all the drinks. So I know. Yeah. Crown is yours.

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