The Breakfast Club - ALL THE SMOKE: The Man Who Changed Football - Lawrence Taylor

Episode Date: October 6, 2024

The Black Effect Presents... All The Smoke! NFL legend Lawrence Taylor joined us for an intimate and wide-ranging conversation about his extraordinary life and career. LT takes us on a journey from hi...s early days playing pickup basketball at UNC to becoming the most dominant defensive player in NFL history. He shares candid stories about his relationships with coaching giants Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells, and reflects on how he revolutionized the game of football. Taylor also opens up about his experiences with New York City's vibrant nightlife and celebrity scene during his playing days. The interview touches on his transition to Hollywood, including his role in the film "Any Given Sunday." From golfing adventures to encounters with Michael Jordan, this episode offers unprecedented insights into the life of a sports icon.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Jack Peace Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while running errands or at the end of a busy day. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Listen to Black Lit on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records
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Starting point is 00:02:48 So we appreciate the love. Thank you, y'all, for coming out and showing us love. We appreciate y'all. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. Rob Markman, the man. in this LA runoff with the absolute legend. Arguably the greatest of all time. Man, let's welcome to the show Lawrence Taylor, man. Hello, how y'all doing guys? How's it going? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:03:31 What's up? Two-time Super Bowl champ, 11-time All-Pro, three-time Defensive Player of the Year, was robbed with only one MVP in 86. Again, arguably one of the greatest of all time. How is life currently right now? I'm sure you're getting a lot of golf in. You know what?
Starting point is 00:03:46 I tell you, my golf game right now is not where it used to be. I heard at one point you were like a two handicap. Two. Two. I mean, I used to be like a plus two. But now, you know what? I've gotten old. I've gotten old, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I'd say life has treated me poorly. You know what? I've gotten old. I've gotten old, guys. Life has treated me poorly. I've gotten old. I thought I would never get old. I thought I would be the baddest on the earth for at least 50 years. You're still up there.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Okay, now. You're still up there. Michael Strahan. Michael Strahan said he just stopped being afraid of you. He's intimidating. And it took me until hell recently to not be intimidating when I see LT. Mm-hmm. I'll tell you, life is what it is. The game of football, I don't watch it
Starting point is 00:04:45 the way I used to watch it you know because now it's just changed a little bit nobody want to hit nobody you know so but we're not going to talk about my problems
Starting point is 00:04:57 we're going to talk about your problems I'm the side collegeist over here flip that shit you're right urban legend or truth? You've shot 10 hole-in-ones in your golf game. Ten.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yes. I have ten. I have ten of them. For the furthest one out, what was your furthest one out? Probably the furthest one out was 212. Okay. Because, see, I'm not like you. I don't play from the front tees.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I play from way, I play all the way in the back. And I play in the whites. I don't fucking play the front. I play all the way in the back. I play the whites or the blues I don't fucking play the whites. I play all the way in the back. I play the whites or the blues. When I step out of the locker room, I tee it up right in front of the building. The tips. That's where you're going for it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Okay, shit. I ain't playing that stuff. I don't know this lingo. I don't know this lingo. Hey, everyone said, I mean, we talked to James Worthy. We've talked to a lot of different people. You're just a super athlete. Anything you put your mind to, you're able to accomplish.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Obviously, your football career speaks for yourself. But James Worthy said you used to hoop with them in open gyms. Yes. Be the most athletic person out there. Obviously, your golf game is. Where did just your athletic prowess come from? I guess I learned from my dad. And as I got older, like I said, I started out playing baseball.
Starting point is 00:06:05 When I was six years old, I went out for baseball. I made every All-Star team until... Every All-Star team except for my first year. My first year, I didn't. Every other team, I was always an All-Star.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And one day at Lafayette High School, the coach came to me. He said, listen, hey, T-Wall, you need to come out and play football. I've been playing baseball, you know. What grade was this? Going into my junior year. God, he just started football. He said, listen, hey, you should have stopped.
Starting point is 00:06:44 You need to uh place it and he challenged me to go out there and play football so i went out for the sixth first six weeks man they just kicked my ass i mean all this damn running with What the fuck? All this hitting? I ain't mad at nobody. And then in my junior year, the first play of the second quarter, the guy in front of me, I was the second team. And he went down. And I had a great game. I had a great game. I won the game for the team and stuff. It was a great game. And
Starting point is 00:07:36 guess what? The next game I got better. Then I got better. Then I got better. Then I got better and got and I got better. Then I got better. Then I got better. And I got better. And end up All-American. One of the top players in the country. Short amount of time. I just got better and better and better. That's crazy. And then my senior year, I still played baseball.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And let me tell you something. I was a hell of a baseball player. What position? I was the catcher. But hey, when I hit a ball, nobody say I got it. They say I go get it. Yeah, that's it. For real.
Starting point is 00:08:23 But I tell you, I enjoyed. And my junior year, my senior year, and then all of a sudden I go to college and play football. Once I got that thing in my mind, I couldn't even go to sleep. When I go to bed at night and say I'm playing a team the next morning or the next day, by the time I get to the game, I've already played that game 20 times already. I've already played it 20 times. I already know what the hell you're going to do. Listen, a guy lines up here
Starting point is 00:09:04 and you give him to do. All right? Ain't but so many. Listen, a guy lines up here, and you give him the ball. Ain't but so much you can do with it. Okay? You know, you can either run it, or you line up on the play, and I look at your formation. Ain't but so much you can do from a formation. You can't just make it happen. No, no.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And guys got to learn how to read the formation because, you know, there's 100 plays in football, 100 different plays and stuff. Well, if you look at the formation, you can narrow it down to three or four places. There's so many things you can do. And if somebody else moves, God damn it, there's only one thing you can do. All right? So that's how I looked at the game. The science of it.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah. Yeah, look at the science of it, man. And don't ask me if I was in the science class, I wouldn't know what the fuck I was talking about. I wouldn't understand you either if you was talking to me. It's me too. Before we get into football, I really want to touch on, what do you remember about the pickup games in North Carolina on the basketball court? I mean, you were in school with some- Let me tell you something. Hey, look. Back in the day, we used to go out there and we'd play and play. And I remember for the intermediate.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Intermedials. Yeah, yeah. We won the championship because, you know, but we was disqualified because we cheated. But, you know, we didn't really cheat. One of our players, he wasn't actually in school. Yeah. Illegal recruitment. So they used a technicality against us.
Starting point is 00:11:03 But I used to go out there and play with all the boys. I mean, Jordan, James Worthy. Perkins. All those guys. I used to go out there and play. What was your home game like? Huh? What was your game like, though?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Well, see, the problem is I couldn't hit nothing from like 35 feet. But 31? Yeah. Anything. from like 35 feet, but 31? Yeah. And they used to say they used to say, well, I could shoot the ball. I'm decent in defense.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I only got mad because they only give you six fouls. Oh, shit. Can you imagine this motherfucker guarding you and getting more than six fouls? I need more you six fouls. Ah, shit. Can you imagine this motherfucker guarding you? And getting more than six fouls? I need more than six fouls! Imagine you having more than six fouls. I'm about to go be dead out there.
Starting point is 00:11:53 LT is on me. I'm passing that bitch. Cut it out. Someone else do something. I love the years at Carolina. I think it's one of the best schools as far as meeting people and just the whole- Preparing you for life. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Because I've been through a lot of shit. A lot of shit. Carolina, you know, been threatened to kick. I may have been listed one year. Okay. I'm not going to tell you. I'm going to act out. Please tell me. Come on. I'm not a player. I made releases one year. Okay. I'm not going to tell you. I'm going to act it out. Please tell me.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Come on. I'm a player. Going into my senior year. And we're out. And some of my boys and stuff. And they got this big old festival and stuff, right? So we go to the festival because it's right there at Aaron's house. And we go to the festival. And a couple of my boys stole a couple of items from the festival.
Starting point is 00:12:53 So they gave them to me to hold, because ain't nobody going to fuck with me. I mean, it's all my language. No, you good. Ain't nobody going me i mean it's all my language but you're good anybody gonna mess with me so i sit there and i held the energy and then all of a sudden the the uh the the lady that's what the ta or whatever that the lady is she came over there and started fussing arguing stuff like that. Anyway, I got sent to, back in college. The Dean?
Starting point is 00:13:31 To court, you know, campus courts, you know. So I got sent there, me and a couple of my other boys. And so what they did is, I got sent there, me and a couple of my other boys. And so what they did is I wasn't allowed to stay on South Campus anymore. You know, so I wasn't allowed to stay on South Campus. And, you know, this is going into my senior year. And I'm worried about if I'm going to be able to play my senior year. So I decided, no, he can play.
Starting point is 00:14:11 He's just not allowed to be on South Campus. Okay? So they put us in a building on North Campus. Four- story building. And it was four of us guys, four of us. We all had a floor. I could stay on the first floor, somebody else got to stay on the second floor,
Starting point is 00:14:35 third floor, greatest thing that ever happened. So you got in trouble and it got better. Oh God, greatest thing that ever happened. It was a girl, hey, it was a girl's dormitory right across from us. Nah, nah, that wasn't the work for me. It was the greatest. It was the greatest. One time, the trouble was okay.
Starting point is 00:14:52 That wasn't the work for me, man. Hey. All bad. All bad. Trouble turns into gold. Oh, man. It turned right into gold, man, I'll tell you. Speak to your friendship.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Obviously, you got a good relationship with Michael Jordan, but how did that start, and how is it, and what are those golf matches like? I know you guys both being very competitive. Well, Mike, when I actually, my senior year, not my senior, right after my senior, my rookie year at the Giants, Mike came to school that year, so I came back to finish up school that summer. And so he was playing with the team, practicing with the team. And what's the coach's name?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Dean Smith. Dean Smith allowed me to practice with him. Oh, shit. Right? He allowed me to practice. And Mike was always, every time I turned around, he just said, hey, call it foul, foul, foul, foul. I'm like, I just hit you a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Come on, man. So every time Mike had the ball, I warned the guard. I warned the guard, Mike. Because it was. You was the pain freak, huh? Because I know Mike was dropping you off. Yeah, he was going to drop me off. He was going to drop me off with a little something in his neck. I'm going to throw something at him.
Starting point is 00:16:19 So I'm not saying I'm a fair player. I'm just saying I'm a player. I'm a player. That's it. I'm not saying that. But, hey, we used to have a great time doing that. He is truly, you know, he's one of the best. I'm the best when it comes to fouling, though.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I wouldn't doubt that. Could you dunk? You can't't doubt that. Could you dunk? You can't ask that question. Could I dunk? You was a flyer? How you want it. Really? How you want it.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Okay. How you want it. I know I heard it. I heard it. How you want it. Backwards all that. You had all that. Listen, I could do anything I wanted to. Have it your way.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Burger King. I was an athlete, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I was in the NBA and I couldn't do half that shit, so I had to ask. I couldn't do it. I was a straight scorer. How did golf come into your game? And obviously, you guys, I've heard legendary stories about just the competitiveness with you two on the golf course.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Mike is competitive in anything he do. Okay, listen. He does nothing half-ass. Nothing. I mean, I don't care if it's shooting marbles. He does nothing half-ass. You know, he wants to be the best at everything he does. And pretty much he is. But we have a great job. he does and pretty much he is.
Starting point is 00:17:49 But we have a great job. We have a great job. Not many people can say they actually changed the game in any sport. You actually did it in football. How does it feel when people tell you that? When you say changed the game, what the fuck you mean by that? I can tell you what our definition would be.
Starting point is 00:18:04 You, as far as from the position you played, you made I can tell you what our definition would be. As far as from the position you played, you made the game physical. You made it entertaining. You showed people how to play the game with passion, leave everything on the line, willing to die to win the game. A lot of people don't automatically... You can't teach that. No. So you had that, and you did it on the highest stage.
Starting point is 00:18:21 For people to consider you as the best defensive player of all time, that says a lot. I loved the game of football. I love the contact. I don't want to go out there and go through a walkthrough. No, I got to hit somebody. That's what I do. I hit somebody. James B. Okay, see, that's what I do. I hit somebody. I remember when I did go and started stripping.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Nobody does. Nobody was doing that. Hey, I invented the stripping the ball because I said, if you're going to run the ball and I tackle you, you still got another play. But if I tackle you and I strip you, you still got another play. But if I tackle you and I strip that ball, guess what? It ain't yours no more. And that's what, and I remember I used to do that, and then all of a sudden, when we got to the Giants,
Starting point is 00:19:20 I was doing it so much is that they started teaching, having strips. For practice? Yeah, for strip practice and stuff. I mean, yeah, a lot of things. I changed the game, too. I played against a lot of good players. But just like my dad always told me, he said, you got to be better than the next man just to be equal.
Starting point is 00:19:49 So, goddamn, get out there and what, you know, and that's what I did. And that's what I'm saying, because at the end of the day, hey, I want to be the best. Now, there's days I've even gone out and maybe had too much drink, you know. If life- Because days I didn't go out, maybe had too much drink. If life is. But let's say, I'm still, hey, I'm going to stay on your ass from 15, 1-5-0-0 until it goes down to 0-0-0-1. I love it Hey I'm Jack Peace Thomas the host of a brand new Black Effect
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Starting point is 00:25:53 Michael Strahan on the show, and he was just telling some legendary stories about how you didn't like the practice, but when you did, you went 100 miles an hour. There was no bullshit, and that's what he got from me. I didn't like the one practice. Yeah. At that time he got there, I was 30-something years old.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I ain't got to practice no more. He said you would earn the respect. He didn't have to. I don't want to go out. No, no, no. I remember when I used to go out there, I'm all geared up. I got stuff on my hands. I got the daggles on bands. I'm all locked up and I'm ready to kill. About six, seven years later, I'm like, hey, I ain't
Starting point is 00:26:38 got shit strapped up. Rob Markman, Jr.: I'm chilling, man. Rob Markman, Jr.: I ain't got my shoes tied. Rob Markman, Jr.: You want it now or you want it in the game? Rob Markman, Jr.: I work on Sundays, God damn it. Hey, got my shoes tied. You want it now or you want it in the game? That's what I'm saying. I work on Sundays, God damn it. Yeah, God damn it. He also says sometimes you would, he said you would sleep during the meetings
Starting point is 00:26:53 but wake up and know the whole game plan. That daggone Bill Belichick, you know, he would sit there and he'll go over these daggones of these plays and stuff and I'm looking at it and I go on to sleep. And then I was like, I said, get your ass up. He said, tell me what you do on this play. I don't tell him. I tell him what I do, but I can tell him what everybody does.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I knew one thing about football. I know what everybody is doing on that football field. I know what the tackle's doing. I know what the nose tackle's doing. I know what the both linebackers doing. Hey, I know what the DB's doing. All the safeties. I know. Only person I don't know what the
Starting point is 00:27:38 hell is going is me. Because I'm going to do what I want, what I feel. I got to do what I feel. But see, I got to, I do what I feel, but I feel. I got to do what I feel. But see, I got to, I do what I feel, but I got to stay within the framework of the defense because if I don't, I screw them up. So I do what I want to do to a point, but I stay within the framework of the defense.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Fair. Bill Belichick was your defensive coordinator. He was the greatest defensive player of all time. We all know. And listen, he right. He right? Go ahead. He definitely right.
Starting point is 00:28:14 What was Bill like back then? Let me tell you something. Belichick first came in, he was assistant special teams coach. No, assistant to the special teams coach. You know how low that is? He was in the film room. You know how low that is? Everybody know what the hell that shit is.
Starting point is 00:28:37 And then his second year, he became special teams coach. His third year was Bill Parcells' first year as a head coach. And he named Bill Belichick the defensive coordinator. Man, I had a fit. I mean, I was raising hell. What the fuck? Man, get back in there and shag some balls. Somebody come out here.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And I was really pissed. I went into Bill's office. I said, man, what the fuck are you doing, man? He said, listen, hey, you're going to name him as defense coordinator? And Bill told me, he said, let me tell you something. All the defenses that we've been running for the last couple of years are Bill Belichick's design. He designed all these daggone defenses. Even though it wasn't his position at the time.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah. Hey, he designed all the defenses for and I was shocked and I gave my, I told Bill, I give you my blessings, man. Go ahead. And I'll tell you what, personality-wise, he's whatever, whatever. But I'm tell you what personality wise he's whatever whatever but I tell you what for somebody that knows football knows
Starting point is 00:30:13 defense knows hey he knows what you're supposed to do he's a bad man. He's a bad man. Talk to us about Parcells. Bill Parcells has always been my main man. I'll do anything for Bill. Bill, he was a guy that brought me to the Giants. And I remember he was, and he taught, he worked with me. I ain't going to say that he worked with me. Goddamn, I already Now, I ain't going to say that. He worked with me. Goddamn, I already knew what I was doing when that got there.
Starting point is 00:30:48 But he, I remember Bill, I'm going to tell you a quick story. I remember Bill Parcells. Parcells, my first week in the NFL, Parcells was on my ass. I mean, you know, I was on the second team. I was on the second team. John Scorpan was in front of me. I was on the second team. That lasted.
Starting point is 00:31:22 No, I was on the third team. I was third team 13 that lasted about five minutes okay then I moved to the first team that took about another two minutes okay so I'm sitting there and Bill is telling me he's on my ass every time. Because, you know, when you see something, you see a diamond in the rough, you know, you can't just let it. Hey, you got to talk to him and make him go the right direction and stuff. So he was making me go the right direction.
Starting point is 00:32:05 But every play, he was on my ass. I was just coming out of college, you know, university. Every play, he was on my ass. Oh, you got to be over here. You got to be here. You got to be here. You got to be here. I'm saying that.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'm making, I would dig on, rush the quarterback. The quarterback was set up, throw the ball 30 yards downfield. I would turn around and run down there and knock the ball away. And he said, what the fuck you doing down there? What the hell you doing 30 yards? So, look, every
Starting point is 00:32:39 day on my ass, on my ass. And I finally said, hey, hold up, coach. Hold up. You can do whatever you want you can trade me you can cut me you can put john scorpion back at at at at a linebacker i don't care i said i don't care but you've got to stay off my ass because i I tell you what, I don't work like that. It didn't work like that in college. It ain't going to work like that in here. Because listen, I can't work like that.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And Bill Paul said, he looked at me. He said, okay. I think he said, okay, motherfucker. But I don't know what he said. But I think, okay. That type of shit never works for the brothers. That never works for the brothers. I said, okay, motherfucker, but I don't know what he said. But I think he said, okay. That type of shit never works for the brothers. That never works for the brothers.
Starting point is 00:33:31 It never works for the brothers. Sorry. It never works. He said, okay, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to let you do it your way. That works for the brothers. I'm going to let you do it your way. He said, as soon as you mess up, I'm going to be in your ass, and you're going to do it my way. He said, as soon as you mess up, I'm going to be in your ass.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And you're going to do it my way. I said, okay, cool. I never had another confrontation with him for the next 12 years. He had no problem with the way I was doing it. I love it. I tell you what. Did you see the viral video of Belichick leaving his girlfriend's house with his shirt off like a month ago. Bill Belichick just retired and he was leaving his girl's house. He's living his best life right now.
Starting point is 00:34:12 So what's the problem? Nothing at all, bro. Ain't no problem with it. Nothing at all. Did you see it though? No, I didn't see it. I didn't see it, no. But what's the problem?
Starting point is 00:34:20 No, ain't no problem. I just want to know what you thought of Coach. Your first year you win Rookie of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year. I mean, you're stepping on the scene. Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year. What's the problem? I won it all. Clean to the clean.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah, clean to the clean. What's your first thoughts? I mean, obviously this is the top of the business. It's supposed to be the toughest and you're going here and dominating off the rip. Guys, let me tell you something. Hey, when I first came into the NFL, I'm serious. After going through Carolina, you know, playing in North Carolina, when I first came to the NFL, it was like a man playing with boys. The Giants, they've been playing football for,
Starting point is 00:35:09 all these guys have been playing for 30, 40 years, or whatever it is. Hey, they didn't care no more. They weren't excited about winning. Last 10 years, last 15 years, they weren't excited about winning. They're just going through the damn motion. All the players are just going through the motion because, hey, Johns hadn't won a playoff berth in the last 15, 20 years, right? They're just going through the motion.
Starting point is 00:35:42 And I refuse to go through the motions. And I would go to practice. And, man, listen, when I go to practice, I go to practice. I go to go through the motions. And I would go to practice. And, man, listen, when I go to practice, I go to practice. I go to work. You know, I go to work. Hey, listen, I'm going to hurt somebody, okay? I'm going to hit somebody, but hurt, whatever. But listen.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You hit me, I'm going to hurt. And then Parcells, I remember when Parcells used to call meetings and he wanted all the older players to come he said, hey, LT, I want you in this. Well, I wasn't LT then. I was Lawrence. Okay. I want you in this meeting. And I went to the meeting. And I said, God. And I felt funny because I got all these senior guys in there, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:59 all the Harry Carson, Phil Sims, Brian Kelly, all the senior players were in there. And I'm like, what the hell am I doing? He said, listen, because look at that group. He said, you're better than all of them. That hit me. And I'll tell you what, when I went out there on Sundays, no matter where I'm coming from. Hey, I come to work.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Come to work. I come to work. I'm ready to play. I come to work. Talk to us a little bit about those New York nights in the 80s. I mean, you had plenty of them. Mike Tyson was out there, Dale Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, yourself. There was a lot of young, black, rich talent out in New York in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:37:48 All the time. I mean, listen, and we all went to the same place. He's not here. That's what it's called? Yeah, he's not here. The Deggwell Club in New York City, he's not here. That was the hottest place. He's not here. That was the hottest place. Hottest.
Starting point is 00:38:07 He's not here. He's not here, boy. I'll tell you what. Oh, shit. That says it all right here. Taking him back. Look, he's taking him back. At the moment.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Take us back to He's Not Here, please. Oh, shit. What would it be like right now if we was in He's Not Here with you right now? I'm spoken for him. Thank you. It was that popping in there. It was just amazing. You got everybody.
Starting point is 00:38:35 You got Mike Tyson. You got everybody and there's somebody. Yeah. Mayor. Mayor. Were you there with, what was it like? Would you and Mike develop a friendship, Tyson?
Starting point is 00:38:48 You know what? See, Mike, you got to be careful around Mike, you know? Shit, both of y'all together. No, no, no. No, Mike is a good guy. I'm thinking about that right now. Like, you were worrying about Mike.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Shit, I've been in a room with Mike and I'm in a room with y'all. I don't know how I was sitting there between both of y'all. Hey, listen. You go with Mike sometimes and listen, he's a great guy. Love him to death. And we have a great relationship. But you may say the wrong thing, and you don't even know it.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And then all of a sudden, your ass is in trouble. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Your ass is in trouble. I'll tell you what. Hey, but what a great... I'll tell you what, and I think about all the people I've met in New York through sports and stuff, you know, Pele and like Tyson and all kinds of baseball players, basketball players.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I mean, listen, I used to sit out there with Mike would come to the, Jordan would come to the Madison Square Garden, sit on the floor, and then we'd be talking shit. Heckling them. I would say, listen, buddy, all the people that I've met and all the people that have played in New York and, I mean, Mr. October, I mean, everybody, God, you know, it's like a family. And, yeah, I'm happy to be here because I can't think of any other place I could have gone to where I can control the situation. But you mentioned all these great people, but you were the biggest star among them all. I wasn't the biggest star.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I wasn't the biggest star. I was a big star. I was a big star. No, no. Don't be modest. To a point. To a point. Oh, man, stop it, man.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Stop it, man. Listen, hey, listen. Hey, boy, if I would have got sleep at night, I would have been the best player ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, we understand that, too. We understand that, too. Shit. We'll save that for later.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah. Well, I mean, that was... You know, Jack and I were both known. That's how we met, was we went hard on and off the court. Do you ever feel like what you did, and obviously you're kind of speaking to it, the nightlife ever hindered you on the Sunday? I look back at it now. But did you know what?
Starting point is 00:41:17 And I say to myself, I say to myself, look where you're at now, or look whether you have achieved. Could you have done it better? Now, if I would have gone home every day, if I would have gone to the gym every day, if I didn't drink Johnny Walker Black every day, could I have been better? Maybe not. Maybe that was your shit though. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I don't know. Maybe not. How could you know when you still end up being the best football player ever? I know a bunch of guys that don't drink, don't smoke, don't do shit. And they were trash. And they were trash. Trash. Trash.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash motherfuckers. Trash motherfuckers. They do everything right and they just ain't got it. They ain't trash. Yeah, they ain't got it. They just ain't got it. It just ain't in them. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I know a lot of people like that. I talk about them all the time. The mental side of the game, something like you said, you prepared, you knew the formations, but also the intimidation side. So on top of the mental intimidation
Starting point is 00:42:23 because they knew you was a bad motherfucker, were you a big shit talker too? Am I going to talk shit? Probably. I don't mean to be rude, but motherfucker, if you can't play, you can't play. Goddamn, get off the field.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I mean, get somebody else. I used to sit there and say, listen, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. You blocking me? It's been a long day, motherfucker. Why don't you tell the coach you got a cold or something? Get somebody else in. Call in sick.
Starting point is 00:42:55 No, but seriously. Hey, once you get the timing of the game, the feel of the game, the, if you get to a point where you think you can beat one person all the time. It's over. Oh, God, I feel sorry for him.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I feel sorry for him. I mean, shit, hell. You got to be able to at least hit me one time where I'm like, oh, shit, this guy making play a little bit. It works that way. But it is what it is, man. Football, great sport. I enjoyed it. I mean, I lived it.
Starting point is 00:43:42 I dreamt about it. I'm all about contact. Don't get me involved in a two-hand touch game. I want contact because that's all. And don't give me the daggone. Don't give me the second string. I used to hate that. Somebody's come in and bring the second string guy and put it over me.
Starting point is 00:44:06 That's disrespectful. That's an insult. I'm just like, listen, what the hell he going to do? I wanted to beat the best that you got. Anthony Munoz and stuff like that. Big Munoz. Hey, I want the best that you got. Who's some other people like Anthony Munoz?
Starting point is 00:44:23 Larry Allen? There's several. I mean, there's a couple guys that played for San Francisco. There was one guy from St. Louis, a black dude. I forgot his name now, because he didn't leave a card in a way. He said he didn't leave a card. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Oh, that was good. Oh, boy. Okay, that's enough. Okay. Movies and TV shows, did acting come naturally like everything else? Pretty much. I mean, let's say because you know what? Most of the movies, I mean, I play me. Yeah, play yourself.
Starting point is 00:45:11 You know, I play me. I mean, it was only a couple movies that was way offline. Like the one I played when I was a preacher, that was way offline. Way offline. That was way offline, man. What movie was that? That was way offline, man. What movie was that? Oh, I forgot the name of it, but shit.
Starting point is 00:45:31 You being a preacher is probably why we didn't see it. Maybe that's why we didn't see it, because you was the preacher. Probably. Probably. I'll tell you. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, man, another ghost showed up.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Oh, there we go. There we go. Shit, damn. Oh, fuck it Oh, man. Another ghost showed up. Oh, there we go. There he goes. Shit, damn. Oh, fuck. Love one. Watch it. Love one. Love one.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Love one. Oh, God, I can't wait to rob him. He said, I can't wait to rob him. I can't wait to rob this motherfucker, boy. You? What's up, bro? What Peace Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. I'm Jack Peace Thomas, and I'm inviting you to join me and a vibrant community of literary enthusiasts dedicated to protecting and celebrating our stories. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while commuting or running errands, for those who find themselves
Starting point is 00:46:37 seeking solace, wisdom, and refuge between the chapters. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Together, we'll dissect classics and contemporary works while uncovering the stories of the brilliant writers behind them. Blacklit is here to amplify the voices of Black writers and to bring their words to life. Listen to Black Lit on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Prandti. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, the early career podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. One of the most exciting things about having your first real job is that first real paycheck. You're probably thinking, yay, I can finally
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Starting point is 00:51:05 Peter Attia. Exercise is the single most important drug we have. And Kim Scott. You know, I spent a lot of my early parts of my career feeling a little bit miserable. And so to me, this is the interest in Radical Candor. How can we achieve things together and enjoy doing it and build great relationships while we do it?
Starting point is 00:51:23 Listen to The Next Big Idea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Talk to us about Any Given Sunday. We had Jamie on the show. He said there was beef with Team Him and LL. What was that experience like? Because to me, that's one of the greatest
Starting point is 00:51:44 football movies ever. I go. I'm in drug rehab. Okay? It was 19... What year was that? 1997. The 7 of 98.
Starting point is 00:52:04 You know how. Were you there with me? The movie. No, my boy. The movie came 98. You know how. Were you there with me? The movie. No, my boy. The movie came out in 99, right? Russell, Rest in Peace was the number two. What year the movie came out? Y'all filmed at SC?
Starting point is 00:52:13 Okay. Right? Yeah. We filmed here. We filmed in Florida. We actually went. We filmed in Florida. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And then we moved. Then we went to Dallas. But anyway, I'm trying to say I'm sitting in drug rehab. And my last one, my last drug rehab. I ain't had no more. But Oliver Stone came all the way to the. That's crazy right there. Oliver Stone pulled up on you. At rehab.
Starting point is 00:52:49 He all came to the rehab and said, Listen, Hank, I want you to play a part in the movie. And I said, I don't know if I can because, you know, hell, according to these motherfuckers, I'm going know if I can because, you know, hell, according to these motherfuckers, I won't be here for a while. So, I go, and then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:53:18 they hired, what was the big guy from the Green Mile and Michael Clark Duncan, right? So I get out of rehab, but they hired Michael Clark Duncan to play the role as Shark, right? That wouldn't have made sense. That wouldn't have worked. You know, he's practicing and stuff, and they're doing stuff. And so he said, off of Stone, he said,
Starting point is 00:53:45 listen, I tell you what, we shooting in Miami. Why don't you come down and give us some pointers for like a expert on hand. Yeah, so I said, fuck, I go on down there. I'm sitting there on this. And they run this thing, they run this play and Michael Duncan, he hits this guy and all I could see was marshmallows. Because they're like, what the hell is that? It's nothing. It doesn't look real. I mean, and Oliver Stone, he came to me and said, I just don't feel it.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I can't feel it. You know, I can't feel it. He said, do me a favor. I said, yes, sir. He said, go inside, put on a uniform, shoulder pads, helmet, put on some gear, and come out and show him how to run this play. Right? I said, okay. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:00 You're paying me. I go in. I go inside. Come back out. Hey, the play. You're paying me. Don't give a shit. Anyway. I go in. I go outside. Come back out. Hey. The play. We run the play. Bam, bam, bam.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I come in. I fill the hole. I hit the something. Boom. And listen. Hey. I thought he was dead. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:55:17 But Oliver Stone jumps up. That's what I'm talking about. That's the type of shit I want to see. He looked at Michael Doug and said, you fine. Damn. On the spot. On the spot. He said, you fine.
Starting point is 00:55:34 He said, LT, let's play. And so he gave me his part. And that's how I started out. That's crazy. Yeah.'t imagine. Yeah. Rob Markman, Yeah, the way you played him with the chainsaw cutting the car in half and all kinds of shit. Yeah, but laying on the field, taking that last hit, you made that look so real. It made me feel like we've seen you on the field in real time in that same position before. That's how good you made that character. Subtle.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I'm just saying. Yeah, I was. It was a good show. I was into the movie. I was into the movie. It was a natural. Yeah. I fell for it.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Maybe you had me believing it. I thought you was really hurt. I thought you was really hurt. I thought you was really hurt down there. I ain't hitting nobody that hard. Oh, boy. Quick hitters. We're going to finish it off when we're done.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Fill in the blank. Lawrence Taylor wouldn't be here without. I wouldn't be. When you say here, like here in this room? Today. Today. I wouldn't be here today without my daughter,anisha and my girl Trish. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:49 That's right. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because I got some legal shit I have to be doing. He's stupid, bro. He's stupid. I might bet my match, dog.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I think I bet my match, dog. I think I met my match, dog. Yeah, he did top me. Hey, so Rook, Phil Simms told a story one time about you driving down the turnpike going fast as fuck. You thought he was going to die. You took your chew out and threw it out, and your Super Bowl ring came off, too. Truth to that? No. It wasn't the Super Bowl ring? My Super Bowl ring never came off.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Was it a ring or anything or was that just, you were just making it sound good? It was just spit that came out. That wasn't true. Go ahead. Next one. Childhood crush. Damn. A childhood crush. Probably one of them Jacksons. But I'm not talking about Michael. I'm talking about... Reba.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Reba. Janet. Janet. Yeah. One of them Jacksons. One of them Jack them jackets, yeah. That's funny as hell. No Michael. No Michael. You don't need no Michael. Okay, what other stupid shit you got?
Starting point is 00:58:08 We got three more stupid questions. Go ahead. Your favorite album of all time? It gotta be some type of Luther Vandross. You like to chill it out then, huh? Yeah, baby, listen. Boss, let me tell you something. When I start doing that, how you think I caught her?
Starting point is 00:58:16 Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over. Game over. You like to chill it out then, huh? Yeah, baby, listen. Boss, let me tell you something. When I start doing that, how you think I caught her? Yeah, gang dirt. Gang dirt. Put the Luther on. Luther. Luther. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Big Luther or little Luther? No, no, big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther. Big Luther. No, no, no. No, no. Big Luther. Big Luther. The earring. The earring. The single earring. You started a fashion trend way back when. Where'd that come from? You know, I'm not really sure, but I know when I came into the league, they started
Starting point is 00:59:04 calling me LT. Oh, no, it was Lawrence at first, you know, or Larry or something like that. I don't know what the fuck that was. Yeah, okay. You look like Larry. Lonnie. Lonnie. It's close.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Lonnie, yeah. He's real close. So Lonnie. Ronnie. Ronnie. It's close. Ronnie, yeah. He's real close. So Ronnie. But a guy that made the earring for me. And because my first year, my second year into the league, I started being identified as LT. And, you know, I had one, two defensive players over here. So they identified me.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And I've always wanted to be like, you know, like Michael Jordan's MJ. LT, yeah, your signature. Yeah, you know, stuff like that. Michael Jackson, he's in there too. But, man, guys that were just identified just by their initials. I've always wanted to do that. And when it started to happen, I just stayed on that boat. I just couldn't tell you shit.
Starting point is 01:00:21 You can't tell me shit. See you later. The Lawrence Taylor Family Foundation. You can have your daughter come help explain it if you'd like, but talk to us. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Come on. Hey, I'll tell you what. We can hear you from there.
Starting point is 01:00:35 No, it's a great foundation. I'll tell you what. We work with a lot of kids. I mean, the things we have done over, like, food. I mean, as far as we're providing for families that come over, they can come and get food on weekends and stuff like that. And that's how I started with them or found out about them. But they do a lot concerning kids.
Starting point is 01:01:08 And serving the community. And yeah. Serving the community, of course. But hey, nobody can talk better about it than my daughter because I'm just, I'm the face. I'm the face. Say my name. Say my name. Say my name, like Beyonce.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Tanisha, right? I got the face. Say my name. Say my name. Like Beyonce. Tanisha, right? I got a lot of kids, mama. Say my name. You want to speak on it? What else the foundation does? So we're transforming families, right? We're building well-rounded families.
Starting point is 01:01:32 So when you have the opportunity to change a child's life, it is hard when they go home, right? Right. Because those parents, those families, they don't have the same tools, the same skill set. So our goal is to build well-rounded families. Why? Because they're not the same as the parents. They're not the same as the parents.
Starting point is 01:01:40 They're not the same as the parents. They're not the same as the parents. They're not the same as the parents. They're not the same as the parents. They're not the same as the parents. They're not the same as the parents. They're not the same as the parents. They're not the those parents those families they don't have the same tools the same skill set so our goal is to build well-rounded families why because I came from a broken home no offense love you dearly shout out to my dad but when you are not a well-rounded family you get two sides of different coin okay so we want to build families who have
Starting point is 01:02:03 the same skill sets that we're building in the children. So our goal is to create healthy, well-rounded families. Not that the family consists of a man and a female. It consists of whoever is a part of that child's life. Healthy environment. Whoever is creating the foundation because that foundation is what we are. Try to keep it even all year. That's what we're headed into, you know? So our goal is to transform the lives of those that we see every day.
Starting point is 01:02:40 So if the child that we feed and that we are creating tutoring and life skills for goes home to a parent who has no job, who just got out of jail, there's a disconnect. So our goal is to create opportunities for that father. So you help both sides. Exactly. You have to build the family. You have to build the unit. You have to is to create opportunities for that father. So you help both sides. Exactly. You have to build the family. You have to build the unit. You have to build the foundation. And in closing. No, ain't no and in closing.
Starting point is 01:02:50 What we do is we're building well-rounded families, not just children, because that's what creates the better outcome. Environment, yeah. while we love LT for always showing up, you know, we do the work and he shows up and he gives us that, that, that vibe, that energy, because that's what people want to see. They don't really care about what we're doing in the community. Cause that's not what they're connected to. They care about getting close to him. So that's great. Come in, let's raise this money and then let's give it back to the community. Cause that's what it's about. And so we,
Starting point is 01:03:22 we leveraged that because I love him, but from my own personal experience, I understand the disconnect. I understand what it's like to be a part of one life and then to go into another life. And when my parents divorced, I experienced two different types of realities. It's all right though. I created something. And now they've thrown dad a couple dollars. No, no. You're right.
Starting point is 01:03:42 You're absolutely right. And we thank you. And, no. You're right. He has to be great. And we thank you. And we do. We do. We absolutely do. I love it. Well, thank you. But he yields his time and his energy to really help us do the work.
Starting point is 01:03:55 So we thank him. We love him. And we love y'all for having us. Thank you. Appreciate it. Lawrence Family Foundation. Yeah. Lawrence Taylor Family Foundation.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Lawrence Taylor Family Foundation. Where can they find that? Is it dot com? Dot com. Dot com. LT, man, we appreciate you. Lawrence Taylor Family Foundation. Lawrence Taylor Family Foundation. Where can they find that? Is it dot com? Dot com. Dot com. LT, man, we appreciate you. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:04:10 You were amazing. Hey, man, thank you for telling me. Hey, listen, mama, listen. My guy. Hey, don't go to sleep. Don't try to rob me. That motherfucker got you. Yo, man, that's a wrap.
Starting point is 01:04:18 The legendary Lawrence Taylor. You can catch us on the DraftKings Network and the DraftKings Network. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Man, that's a wrap. The legendary Lawrence Taylor.
Starting point is 01:04:29 You can catch us on the DraftKings Network and the All The Smoke Productions YouTube, man. We'll see y'all next week. Yes, sir. Hey, I'm Jacqueline Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while running errands or at the end of a busy day. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Listen to Black Lit on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Nimminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Get the kids in your life excited about history
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