The Breakfast Club - Are Women More Masculine Than Feminine?

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 that he call him my fault tell him I made it it's topic time call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with the breakfast club morning everybody it's DJ Envy Charlamagne Tha Guy we are the breakfast club
Starting point is 00:00:16 now if you just join us we had Ayanla Bonzant here this morning and we were talking about are women more masculine than feminine that's a choosing violence question I'm gonna be honest with you but guess what when let's play the clip what is the distinction between feminine power and masculine power and we've been conditioned and trained to be men in skirts we do everything like men we compete like men. I said this on the R Spot a few weeks ago. I said, most women want their boyfriend to act like their girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You know, chatting, shopping. But when the man comes home, what they meet is another dude. Now, when Ayala was here, I was silent because I had nothing to say about that situation. I'm not a woman. I don't identify as a woman. I don't have a hoo-ha. Okay? I have a hee-hee. All right?
Starting point is 00:01:06 Are you sure? Yes. Okay. And so I'm just here to listen to the phone calls. And, you know, I don't want to hear from nothing but women about this. I don't want to hear from nobody with a penis. If you identify as a man, I don't want to hear from you. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:01:21 Shalisa. Hey, Shalisa. Good morning. Good morning. Do you think women are more masculine than feminine nowadays yes i do but it's not because we want to i think it's because we have to like i work with a big group of men and when i tell you i have argued with these men like women just to prove that hey you know i'm a woman they don't open doors they don't lift anything heavy anymore and let's not even get started about how a lot of them want you to come 50 50 in households like why am i gonna sit here and do all of that when i am already
Starting point is 00:01:59 doing it on my own like i don't need you to come in and do all of that like it's stupid shalisa let me ask you a question do you think part of this is because i would say in the last i would say maybe 10 years everybody's been talking everybody wants everything 50 50 women want the same amount as men so it's kind of like well if you want the same amount do the same amount i don't look at it like that but do you think maybe that's part of it? It could be part of it, but I'm going to say this. From where I come from, my grandma worked, my grandfather worked. But when she wanted to retire and start her business, my grandfather made it so that was possible. I have my other grandmother on my dad's side.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I don't ever recall her working. In my entire life, I don't recall her having a job. But things got done. I feel like they talk about they want these women to step back into these roles, but they're not doing what their grandfathers have done, and that was pay all the bills. Okay, thank you. I'm just listening.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Okay, let's go to another call. I'm just listening to this trauma being spilled over this radio this morning. Lola. What up, though? What up, though, Detroit? So what do you think? You think women are more masculine than feminine? I think women have become more masculine because they've had to,
Starting point is 00:03:16 not because we want to or because we choose to, but because we don't have men to lead us. And that's not, I'm not, there are some very good strong men that lead their women. But in most cases, we have become masculine because we have to be, not because we want to be. Yeah, I don't think it's a choice anymore. But, you know, it's interesting when people say that because it's like a man shouldn't dictate how you move, right? Like, just because a man isn't showing up the way he needs to show up
Starting point is 00:03:46 doesn't mean you got to be more masculine, does it? Well, we're supposed to be a helpmate. And if we don't have the person that we're supposed to be helping, then we got to carry the load on our own. Because I think it results in us becoming more masculine or feeling like we need to be in that position. No, I think we've done it because we have to, because we've had to,
Starting point is 00:04:07 not because we have a choice, because the men are lacking in that area. I also wonder what the balance is, right? Because you got to have sacred masculine and you got to have divine feminine. Like, they both exist in both genders. So I wonder what that balance looks like. Well, what are you doing that you feel like
Starting point is 00:04:22 is masculine that you shouldn't be doing? Wearing right, God? Shut up, man. Taking out the trash. What are you doing that you feel like is masculine that you shouldn't be doing? Wearing right guard. Shut up, man. Taking out the trash. Taking out the trash. Getting my oil changed. Taking my car to the car wash.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Taking my car to get gas. Things like that. My dad definitely did that for my mom. My mom, I don't think, ever been to a car wash. Only a gas station if she had to. And I do the same thing for my wife. My wife does get car washes, though. She'll go if she has time.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But, yeah, my wife has never seen the inside of a place. And that's what I teach my sons. Like, to be real men. Like, your wife get hit on the most at the gas station. You should never let your wife go to the gas station. That's what she's going to get hit on the most. What if she's driving and she's on E? Like, come on now,
Starting point is 00:05:07 some of this is ridiculous. You should let her get on E. Nah, that's the truth. Like, when my wife, usually on the weekends, I take my wife's cars
Starting point is 00:05:15 to get gas. I take my daughter's cars to get gas. What if she's driving during the week and she's on E? Also, let's reverse that.
Starting point is 00:05:20 If a man cooks and a man cleans, is that things that are regulated only to women no because there's plenty of single men out here who don't have nobody to cook for them yeah have nobody to clean for them just basic necessities to survive and they probably are a little more they probably a little more in touch with a feminine side as well yeah you're right and you're right not in a negative way like a next door but they probably more in touch with a
Starting point is 00:05:43 feminine side they know how. I think cooking. When I lived by myself, cooking and cleaning was just basic necessities you needed to survive. And Lola, you're right. And that's why you appreciate a woman more once you finally do get one because she's your helpmate and she usually takes on those type of responsibilities. Okay. And Lola, you're right. Yesterday, my wife went to the car wash to get her car clean. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Dude's tolerant. So that's the last time she's going to that goddamn car wash i'm gonna wash her car every day for her just stay out that damn car wash you be jealous and be like i want to get hollered at i want to go to the car i want dudes hollering at me shut up man 800-585-1051 ayanna vazant she was here earlier this morning and she was saying that women are more masculine today than feminine. Let's talk about it. We'll take your calls when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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Starting point is 00:06:48 Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about Ayanla Vanzant. She was here earlier and she was talking about women being more masculine than feminine today. I'm just listening. I'm just listening. What is the distinction between feminine power and masculine power? And we've been conditioned and trained to be men in skirts.
Starting point is 00:07:09 We do everything like men. We compete like men. I said this on the R Spot a few weeks ago. I said most women want their boyfriend to act like their girlfriend. You know, chatting, shopping. But when the man comes home, what they meet is another dude. I'm just sitting here listening like I was sitting here listening when Ayanla Bonzano was talking. Because I'm not a woman and I don't identify as a woman.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I have thoughts, but I would rather hear what women got to say. Let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? This Angel from Detroit. Angel, what up, dog? What up, dog? You know what we talking about. I called in to get in on y'all.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Like, for real. Y'all know it's 2023. Of course we doing way more masculine work than feminine. Or way more masculine energy than we working in our feminine. It has to stop. I'm going to need y'all to get out of these communities and rebuild these fellas. Okay? They done took over our clothes.
Starting point is 00:08:05 They want to do everything we do. So now we got to do everything y'all supposed to be doing. I'm over it. Okay. Thank you. Hello, who's this? Aradie. Aradie, good morning. What do you think? You think women are more masculine than feminine? No, I think that depending on the
Starting point is 00:08:21 situation, the woman's going to show her femininity. Like, if you're Not giving enough energy Where we feel the need to be soft And acceptable Then we're not gonna be We're going to be I guess more masculine
Starting point is 00:08:34 But all in all Not at all True Okay Well thank you mama Thank you Have a good day You too
Starting point is 00:08:41 Hello who's this? This is Sky Blue Hey good morning. We're asking, do you think women are more masculine than feminine? Yes, they tend to be more masculine. I myself realize that I've been a lot more masculine than I was normally. And I feel like that's just because of hardships. Men today, at least the men that i've came across have not been masculine themselves
Starting point is 00:09:06 so i find myself having to pick up what they're not doing and i just find myself just being you know in your face right i got it myself i'm gonna do it myself like and i realized that i was masculine when i had finally had a daughter and I realized there was something feminine about me. And I realized maybe that was a problem in a lot of my relationships. That I didn't know how to be just a woman in a skirt. I was trying to play the role of a man while still being a woman. And I feel like a lot of women are like that. Because not all men, but a lot of men around they're not masculine anymore so if a woman
Starting point is 00:09:46 is what a man that's not presenting a safe environment where she can grow and flourish and be feminine her masculine side is going to come out okay i'm gonna be honest with you man i blame beyonce why you blame beyonce we have a generation of women raised by beyonce you know and i love beyonce y'all know my pinkie smith winfrey knows of women raised by Beyonce, you know, and I love Beyonce. Y'all know my Pinky Smith, Winfrey Knowles Carter, but Beyonce, you know, she told y'all to be independent women. Oh, my lady is independent. Oh, yeah. All of that.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You know, then it was all my single ladies. And then she went and got married on your last. OK, and left y'all out here confused with no direction. What happened to the independent woman era somebody has to admit that being an independent woman is overrated and the reason women were independent is because they had to be okay it was almost out of us out of survival all right not because they wanted to be i do know we have to find a balance though because the world is never going to be what we needed to be until everyone has the right balance of sacred masculine and divine feminine that's when the world is uh you know gonna gonna gonna be gonna be what we
Starting point is 00:10:51 want it to be is that your moral of the story that is definitely my moral of the story nobody said that yet nobody has said you know uh you know nobody's admitted in being an independent woman was overrated and by the way being a single man is overrated like the only reason people want to be independent is because they feel like they have to be in that moment but everybody wants a partner bro everybody wants a partner that they can grow with everybody wants a partner that they feel protects them provides for them everybody wants a partner that's gonna have their back man that's it like what mephi man said on all i need rub me on my back baby and tell me everything will be okay everybody wants that say it with me stop stop it see this is your problem y'all spent 15 years singing all them damn songs and telling the universe y'all want to be a
Starting point is 00:11:35 single lady i'm a single lady i had to dance down back in that day forget all that tell the universe you want a partner a man okay men tell the universe you want you a woman. Say it. We need more positive music. What's the record that can bring people together, man?

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