The Breakfast Club - Are You a Forgiver

Episode Date: October 3, 2019

Today on the show we opened up our phone lines to discuss our thoughts as well as our listeners about the Amber Guyger's murder trial. Also, we had Dr. Jasper help us come up with some solutions when ...it comes to dealing with domestic violence in a relationship, after a listener called up for "Ask Yee" in need of help dealing with an abusive boyfriend. Moreover, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to the woman who jumped the gate at the Bronx Zoo to get closer to a lion. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you love to hate. From the East to the West Coast. DJ Envy.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. The realest show on the planet. This is why I respect this show, because this is a voice to society. Change in the game. You guys are the coveted morning show, but y'all earn it. Impact in the culture. They wake up in the morning and they want to hear that Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:02:01 The world's most dangerous morning show. We in the house. Good morning, Charlamagne, Angela Yee. Angela Yee can't hear right now. Oh, my headphones weren't working. There you go. I think she's in now. Charlamagne, can you go to Charlamagne?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Peace to the planet, it's Thursday! All right. Do I sound good? Yeah. Do I sound good? Yeah, you're okay. Yeah, a little foggy a little bit, but that's okay. What's up, guys? Hey, what's up?
Starting point is 00:02:44 How's everybody doing? Man, my mic is on. Hold on. All right, let me get's okay. What's up, guys? Hey, what's up? How's everybody doing? Man, my mic is on. Hold on. All right, let me get my bearings. She's getting her life together. Now, shout out to my son's high school. They had a game yesterday. It was about an hour and 45-minute drive away.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I got to the game late, right? So the first quarter, they were up like 30-nothing. So because they were up so much, my son only got to play like a couple of drives, and they took him out because they didn't want to hurt him for the next game. So I missed the whole game. Oh. I didn't get the same play at all. Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
Starting point is 00:03:11 First thought that counts. At least you tried to get out there. Yeah. At least they won. He's like, Dad, you see my touchdown? I was like, yeah. Yeah, it was a long run. You lied?
Starting point is 00:03:19 No, it was. It was like a five-yard run. I was like, I didn't see it. I was at the car parking. Sheesh. Well, I got stuck in the rain yesterday. I left this restaurant. I was at the car parking. Sheesh. Well, I was, um, I got stuck in the rain yesterday. I left this restaurant. I was with my realtor. Shout out to my girl, Sarah. Hey, Sarah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And I walked out of the restaurant and it was fine. No problems. And then two seconds later, it just started pouring down. We got soaked in the rain. Aww. Yeah. Aww. It's crazy here in New York, and I know all over the U.S., but it was like 90 degrees the other day. 92 degrees yesterday, and now
Starting point is 00:03:45 today it's 55 degrees. Yeah, that's how people get sick. The earth don't give a damn about us no more, okay? Everybody talking about climate change and all this other stuff, and let's reverse the effects of climate change. When the earth is growing and the earth is evolving and the earth can rebel against you, you do know that, right? All of that.
Starting point is 00:04:02 People act like the earth isn't a living organism. It absolutely is. And also, shout out to CollegeCareClub.com. They sent me a package of HU stuff. They sent me a Hampton University hat, Hampton University scarf, glass, some decals, some real
Starting point is 00:04:17 cool stuff. I'm going to share it with our boss, our program director, Thea Mitchum. She also went to Hampton University. I'm going to give her some of this cool stuff. HBCU. That's right. So shout out, she also went to Hampton University. I'm going to give her some of this cool stuff. HBCU. That's right. So shout out to the real H-U, Hampton University. I appreciate that stuff. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Now let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? I mean, we have to talk about ex-cop Amber Geiger. She was sentenced. And we'll tell you what that sentence is and what the family's reaction was. All right. We'll get into that when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Good morning. Hey, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Char back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news. Where we starting, Yee? Well, let's start with Amber Geiger, the former Dallas police officer who killed Botham Jean. She is now sentenced to 10 years.
Starting point is 00:05:00 She'll be eligible for parole in five years. Now, according to the district attorney, they said the office is very pleased with the verdict, and if they were concerned about the 10-year sentence, Dallas District Attorney John Cruzot said that though he personally expected a longer sentence, he respected the jury's decision. He said we're going to move on,
Starting point is 00:05:20 and Botham's family is moving on as well. Actually, Botham's brother, Brant Jean, gave his victim's impact statement and spoke directly to Amber Geiger and said this. I forgive you, and I know if you go to God and ask him, he will forgive you. Again, I'm speaking for myself, not even bad for my family. But I love you just like anyone else.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'm not going to say I hope you rot and die just like my brother did, but I personally want the best for you. And I wasn't going to ever say this in front of anyone, but I don't even want you to go to jail. I want the best for you because I know that's what, that's exactly what Botham would want you to do. I don't know if this is possible but can I give her a hug please? Now Botham's family members also burst into tears and even
Starting point is 00:06:14 the judge who was black, Tammy Camp was moved by his statements and also gave Amber Geiger a hug as well. And y'all think that's normal? What part of it? When have you ever seen a judge get off a bench and hug somebody she just sentenced? Especially somebody who just committed a murder. When have you ever
Starting point is 00:06:29 seen that? When have you ever seen a police officer rubbing a murderer's hair in court to calm them down? I've never seen that, but it's a different situation. I mean, I don't think she intentionally tried to kill that man. I really think it was an accident, and I think the fact that her brother forgave makes her brother bigger than anybody in the situation.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I think the judge is reacting to the brother's statement. Absolutely. Very emotional. I think that's Christianity's impact on the African descendants of slaves. Okay? That's what I think. I think people don't realize religion was put here to control us and keep us from rebelling against our oppressors. No, I think that... If you look at a scripture
Starting point is 00:07:06 like Ephesians 6, 5, it says, slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear just as you would obey God. And this is what happens when you worship a white Jesus. You'll never rebel
Starting point is 00:07:15 against any master that appears in the physical form of your oppressors. That was crazy. I would never tell Brand Jean how to react to what happened to his own brother. But here's what Amber...
Starting point is 00:07:26 Now, let's listen to what Amber Geiger had to say while she was on the stand. Why did you fire? I was scared. Whoever was inside my apartment was going to kill me. And I'm sorry. I have to live with that every single day. Can you imagine Mr. Jean's perspective? An intruder barging into his apartment, somebody on the other side of that door being you, going in with the purpose of finding the threat and taking care of it?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Can't you imagine that being a little bit scarier than you just being alone at the moment? Yes, sir, I can. All right, so she also said that she does wish that it was her who was the person that got killed. I'm going to tell you something. Black people, person that got killed. I'm a terrible person. Black people, we don't never... I feel like a piece of crap. I hate it. I hate it every...
Starting point is 00:08:11 I hate that I have to live with this every single day of my life. And I ask God for forgiveness. And I hate myself every single day. I feel like I don't deserve the chance to be with my family and friends. I wish he was the one with the gun that killed me. They also read some of her text messages from last year
Starting point is 00:08:34 that she was having with the married officer that she was, and her former police partner, with whom she was also having an affair. And she said damn, I was at this oh, he said I was at this area with five different black officers, not racist, but damn. And she said, damn, I was at this, oh, he said, I was at this area with five different black officers, not racist, but damn.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And she said, not racist, but just have a different way of working. And it shows. She also was in a group text message and they were talking about the Martin Luther King Jr. Day Parade back in January of 2015. One person said, when does this end, LOL?
Starting point is 00:09:01 And she said, when MLK is dead, oh, wait. So those are some of the old messages that they read in court. Yeah. I don't know if you heard the audio. Can you hear the audio, Charlamagne? No. I listened to it yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh, no, no, because you were talking over the audio. That's why we brought you down a second. We got to fix this. There's a lot going on. But that's front page news, and we'll talk about it more next hour, all right? Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:09:22 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent. Call us up right now. Phone lines are wide open. 800-585-1051. Call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? Be part of a great colonial tradition. What could go wrong? I was making rockets with black powder, you know, with explosive warheads. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes,
Starting point is 00:10:46 entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's light-hearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple
Starting point is 00:11:33 podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts as a kid i really do remember having these dreams and visions but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:12:39 This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Bobby. What's up, Bobby? Get it off your chest. Yeah. My neighbors are on blast, dude. Every time
Starting point is 00:12:55 since they moved in, I go to leave, cars blocked in. I go to come home, my car's blocked out. They keep having all their boys parking in my driveway. So what you gonna do? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Maybe put some acts down at the front of the driveway. Where you from? Some flats. North Jersey. Why don't you get the car towed? I don't know. I didn't think of it. Well, you know what you do? Do what we do in Brooklyn and Queens.
Starting point is 00:13:26 We just put garbage cans in front of our parking spots and driveways, and nobody can do that. Yeah, if they don't have any garbage cans in front of their drive, I'm looking for other ways to get back, though. All right, man. I can't help you, brother. And your phone sounds crazy. Just get the car towed.
Starting point is 00:13:40 That's all you got to do. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's going on? It's Rick from Brooklyn. Rick, what's up, man? Get off your chest. Good morning, Charlamagne. Yo, good morning, Angela.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Good morning. I'm in agreement with Charlamagne 100%, bro. Like, Charlamagne, how could this dude be hugging the lady that killed his brother and forgiving her and the trial was just done? Like, this is some brainwashing to the next level that I don't understand. It's unbelievable. I don't think it's brainwashing. I just think he's a bigger person. He forgives the situation. I understand. Envy. You know what it is too, Envy?
Starting point is 00:14:11 We were talking, well, you guys were talking earlier in the week about how sometimes these cases are significant, right? If we're just going to be forgiving them every time they kill us, she came into this dude's apartment and killed him and we're just going to be like, all right, it's okay. What kind of precedent does that set for the next person?
Starting point is 00:14:28 They was comforting her like she was the victim. Every time we do something like that, we be giving them a chance. But they don't be giving us no chance. But why are we going to tell that man's family member, his brother, how he should have reacted? Well, if he feels that way, he should keep it to himself. Why can't he do what he wants to do? That's his family. Nobody's going to tell me how to grieve any of my family members.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Anthony, your career, but you've got a career and background. I'm pretty sure that all his family right now is tight with him. Because he's out here telling people that he forgives the lady that killed his brother. That's crazy. Well, he said that. He said that on the stand. And he's doing that in public in front of everybody. He said that on the stand.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Now your emotions is superseding the rest of your family. Now they don't get to grieve how they want to grieve. They can grieve how they want to grieve. That's the way he grieves. That's his brother. If he feels that way, that's the way that he feels. Listen, when somebody very close to you gets killed, I don't know how I would react. I don't know what I would do or what I would say.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So in that moment, that's just how he reacted in that moment. Maybe he doesn't feel like that now. I don't know. Listen, if you choose to forgive, that's just how he reacted in that moment. Maybe he doesn't feel like that now. I don't know. Listen, if you choose to forgive, that's on you. But let's not act like Amber Guy is the victim because she's not at all. They were hugging her and comforting her like she was the victim, like she was a member of the victim's family. She didn't kill that man.
Starting point is 00:15:37 She's definitely not the victim, but she did kill that man. They acting like it. Yo, Envy, let me ask you a question. When you ever seen a judge walk off a bench and hug a person they just sentenced? I don't really watch too many judge sentence people, I'll be honest with you. But I don't know. I mean, it was odd. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:15:52 When you ever seen a police officer rub a victim's hair in the courtroom to calm them down? Bro, that is some slave-loving massive stuff right there if I've ever seen it. Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Why can't I trade my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.
Starting point is 00:16:57 We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
Starting point is 00:17:26 After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:18:10 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Kurt, what's up? Get off your chest, Kurt.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yo, yo, what's up, everybody? Yo, I just want to say thanks, Anjali Yee, for hosting the club, the running club. We run 313 this Sunday. I'm going to be there. Oh, yes. So in Detroit, we are doing the running club. I'm going to go and run with these guys, the 313, run with Yee and the 313. So that's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:19:48 It's a two-mile run. So anybody that wants to come can come out and join us too. Straight out. So anyone that wants to come, we can do it. Well, I ain't even going to lie. I ain't going to front. Like, I actually been there. Like, I run by my house.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And because of circumstances, I haven't been able to run with the club yet. But I do support the club 100% what they're doing for our people and everything like that. So, like I said, thanks to Angela Yee. And you guys, y'all take it easy. All righty. Hello, who's this? Man, this is Johnny. Before you want to go, can I give a shout out?
Starting point is 00:20:15 And I do want to talk about the story for yesterday. I want to give a shout out to my little homie, AB, for taking care of me while we were out there. But I do want to talk about the situation. Yesterday, you said they gave that issue, the stories to the black community. I felt like if that guy would have been aggressive to the situation, they would have some leverage. But, man, I just can't see how you can shoot someone eating ice cream. I mean, I just find it so wrong. And it's just sad.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah, definitely sad. It is really sad. It's a tragic story. But I feel like if that guy would have retaliated or been aggressive about it, they would have tried to use something against him and try to turn this whole story
Starting point is 00:20:55 around. But that's the way I feel about it. If he'd have shot back at that lady when she did that, he'd be in jail. He'd be the one on trial. I don't think he'd be in jail if somebody ran up in his house. I don't think he'd be in jail at all. I guarantee it. I don't think so at all.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Jamie from Jacksonville. Hey, Jamie. Good morning. What I need to get off my chest is I agree with Lil Duval when he said on Instagram that he would not forgive his family members if they hugged the person and that he would haunt them the rest of their
Starting point is 00:21:31 life because if it was me, I would do the same thing. Wow. I don't think you can tell people how to forgive somebody or how to run their life and how to move in their life. Yeah, you just have to worry about what you're going to do and how you feel, but how someone else feels and reacts, that's not really our business. Listen, man, like I said,
Starting point is 00:21:45 if you choose... Well, I'm saying that, but I'm saying as the brother of someone that sat there and intentionally shot somebody in their home,
Starting point is 00:21:54 that I just couldn't see myself saying that it's okay for you to do that. Yeah, I will forgive in the sense of I will let it go, but I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:22:02 that it's okay for you just not to get any time for that or that I forgive you and I hope you do better because I probably wouldn't. That's you. Yeah, that's your personal reaction. I mean, a lot of times forgiveness is for yourself. It's not for the other person.
Starting point is 00:22:16 It's for you. But do you really forgive somebody? Because it's going to come back and you're going to still have those feelings later on again. You can. It doesn't mean that you can't have feelings about it. Because when it comes to her getting parole, they're going to use this in order to get her
Starting point is 00:22:32 out early in five years. Right. I mean, he probably forgives her because he doesn't want that burden on himself of hatred, of anger, and he's just had to forgive it and let it go for himself. And that's what really forgiveness is about. It ain't like for the other person. That is supposed to be for you. Alright and let it go for himself. And that's what really forgiveness is about. It ain't like for the other person. That is supposed to be for you.
Starting point is 00:22:47 All right. Get it off your chest. Let me ask you a question. You don't think this has anything to do with the long-term effects of slavery? Like how we love our oppressors regardless of what they do to us? And it only seems like we forgive white people. We cancel each other, but we're so quick to forgive them no matter what they do to us. Like nobody thinks it was remotely strange, all
Starting point is 00:23:08 the actions that happened in this courtroom. Whether the brother wants to forgive him or not, cool, but the judge getting off the stand and hugging her, the police officer rubbing her hair in the courtroom, like, none of that looks strange to y'all? I mean, I think black people forgive very, very fast, regardless of what the situation is. No, not each other.
Starting point is 00:23:24 No, we don't. We cancel each other. And I think in this situation that's so sad, I don't necessarily think she intentionally went in that apartment and said, I'm going to kill me or nothing today. I don't think she did that. I think it was more of an accident. I think it was an accident. Yes, there's so many different things.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Well, she should have known what the apartment was. She should have turned on the light. The apartment weren't the same. Regardless, she killed that man, and I don't believe it was on purpose. So what's that mean? So that means she shouldn't get no time? I didn't say she shouldn't get no time. Oh, I was about to say, because if you have to kill a homicide in a lot of cases, an accident too, they still put you under the
Starting point is 00:23:51 jail for that. Right, absolutely. But I don't think she necessarily did it on purpose. And I think if the family wants to forgive, the family wants to forgive. We can't say the family. The brother said on the stand, verbatim, that his family's going to be mad at him for saying that. The brother. And I think, like he said, that forgiveness is for him.
Starting point is 00:24:07 That forgiveness is for him. That's what he needs to put out there in the world and the energy that he wants to put out. And you can't tell anybody how to forgive. I'm not a forgiver. That's just me. That's my person. But the fact that he can forgive, that shows that man is a big person because I couldn't do it. But he did it, and I respect it.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah, I just don't like people acting like Amber Gaga is a victim because she's not a victim at all. She's not a victim at all. Not even a little bit. She made a mistake. They made her seem like
Starting point is 00:24:31 she was a member of the family grieving yesterday as if somebody in her family got accidentally killed. That's how they were acting. Well, I am glad that she was convicted and that she was sentenced
Starting point is 00:24:41 and I do wish she would have gotten a longer sentence than she did because she is eligible for parole after five years. But I also feel like if that's how both of them, John's brother reacted, that's his reaction. And I think she got a good sentence, my personal. I think she got a good sentence.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Like I said, if she would intentionally want to kill somebody, then yes. But the fact that it was an accident, I don't necessarily think you put somebody in bars for all their life for having an accident. That's me personally. That bars for all their life for having an accident. That's me personally. That's not all their life. I mean, people want to get 99 years. People want to get a life sentence.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I don't feel like you put somebody in jail for an accident. That's just me personally. That's my thoughts. But anyway, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up. We got rumors on the way. Yes, we told you yesterday about Matthew Knowles going on Good Morning America.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And we'll tell you what he had to say about breast cancer and what he's been dealing with and spreading some knowledge. And Michael Strahan revealed some things about himself as well. All right. Hit us up. The rumors on the way. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Hey. Hey. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Matthew Knowles. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Rumor has it. On The Breakfast Club. So listen up. Well, Matthew Knowles sat down with Michael Strahan on Good Morning America and talked about his own story about finding out that he has breast cancer. He also wanted to talk about the stigmas attached to male breast cancer, and he wants to inspire more men to speak out about that. Now, here's what he had to say about his diagnosis. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:26:19 That's Shug. That's the baby. And then I told my wife, and she says, you know what? I saw a dot of blood on the sheets. So I immediately went to my doctor. I got a mammogram and then it was very clear that I had breast cancer. So I have that blocker too that's mutated, which means I have four things to be concerned about. Prostate cancer, pancreatic cancer, melanoma, and breast cancer. Yeah, initially he had some blood on his T-shirt,
Starting point is 00:26:50 and then his wife said she saw a dot of blood on the sheet, and so that's why he felt he had to go to the doctor. Now he goes on to talk about just being a man and having breast cancer and making sure that his family knows and all of that. This is genetics. It also means that my kids have a higher chance, a higher risk. Even my grandkids have a higher risk and they handle it like they should. They went and got the test. Now, fortunately, Matthew Knowles is doing well and he gave everybody an update on his current health situation. I'm doing really good, Michael.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I had my surgery the last week of July, and now I'm doing all the steps for recovery. I stopped drinking. I wanted to just have a clean bill of health, do things, exercise, meditate. Now, he also was on TMZ Live, and he said that he plans to remove his second breast in January. And interestingly enough, Michael Strahan had his own situation with a family member who had breast cancer as well, who's a man. I had no idea about this until my brother went through it,
Starting point is 00:27:58 and I thought, whoa, male breast cancer, something I never thought in my family, my brother, anything like that, and I never really paid attention to it. I think like most men out there, you just deal with something happening to yourself, I'll be fine. Well, I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary, but this is the first time I've ever heard of male breast cancer because I didn't think males could get breast cancer simply because males don't have breasts. Yeah, it's just a lot more rare.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Less than 1% of all breast cancer cases involve men. And the fact that he has to remove? I'd never heard of that either. Yeah, less than 1%. He has to remove the cancer. Oh, just another thing to put on my list to give me anxiety. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I'm looking at my t-shirts like I hope I don't feel bad. Me too. I'm touching my chest right now. Like, what the hell's going on? Do I got to feel for lumps? No, no lumps. It's not lumps? What's the signs of male breast cancer? Eddie, our producer, said you got to feel the nipple and the areola going on? Do I got to feel for lumps? No, no lumps. It's not lumps? What's the signs of male
Starting point is 00:28:46 breast cancer? Eddie, our producer, said you got to feel the nipple and the areola, right? You got to feel that and look for bumps. Now you're going to just see me randomly rub on my nipple and say, this guy really is a freak. That sea moss ain't no joke, clearly. Alright, now let's talk R. Kelly. A judge has denied his request to get out of jail. They feel like he is a flight risk. They said earlier
Starting point is 00:29:01 this year when he was released on bail, he tried to travel to Dubai with his two girlfriends, and they had went and got their own passports and did all of that. So they also feel like with all this intimidating witnesses and everything, they just didn't feel like it was the safest thing to do. So they did deny letting him out of jail on bail right now. And even though they're saying that he's broke, according to prosecutors, they are accusing him of putting away money in one of his friend's bank accounts.
Starting point is 00:29:27 So they said, according to the prosecutors, that he continues to receive hundreds of thousands of dollars in connection with royalties that he's owed for his music. And I guess he's trying to hide that money. What if they let him out on bail, but they told him they had to chemically castrate him while he was out? I mean, you can't do that. Because then if he's found not guilty, you can't put it back. You're right. So then you can do the temporary, like, you know, castrate him? They're not letting him out.
Starting point is 00:29:56 That's what they can do. Why don't they have the thing, the chain, where they can put the chain on the whole crotch area? Wow, you're kinky. You talking about a chastity belt? That's what it's called? I think that's what you're talking about. I feel like he can break out of that. Is it called a chastity belt? That's what it's called? I think that's what you're talking about. I feel like he can break out of that. Is it called the chastity belt?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah, yeah. A white camera guy said yes. All right, Chris Rock. Envy, now this might be why Chris Rock had some issues with you. Did you know that he was a DJ before he was a comedian? Nope, I didn't know that. Yeah, so he wrote the foreword for a new book of photos of the Beastie Boys and Run DMC. It's called Together Forever.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And he said, I was a DJ way before I told jokes. Run DMC's Sucker MC's taught me a lot about controlling the audience. I learned things about control and timing from playing the record at block parties that I use to this day. Better hope Chris Rock don't come out of retirement, Envy. It makes sense because he loves the DJs. He always talks about DJs and some of his favorite DJs.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Me and Chris is cool now. You better hope he don't come out of retirement, okay? And start taking the jobs out of spite. Remember that fake beef with Chris Rock? I don't know fake beef with Chris Rock. We just had words. We good now. Don't let him have words.
Starting point is 00:30:49 One second. Chris Rock can't take all your jobs out of spite. What's his DJ name going to be? DJ Pookie? What's his DJ name going to be? No, DJ Chris Rock. DJ Chris Rock. People will hire him over you any day.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Chris Rock rocks the part. Then I'm going to start telling jokes. What if his name was DJ- And nobody's going to come to your shows. What if his name was DJ Envy Envies Me? That's a long name. That's too long. You can't get an Instagram page for that.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Ask Eddie what I'm supposed to be looking for on my nipples when I'm rubbing them. What am I looking for? What is he looking for on his nipples? Discharge. Discharge. Yeah, do you have any discharge on your shirt? He said he had a dot of blood on his shirt. And that's...
Starting point is 00:31:22 Oh. And then a dot of blood on his sheets. What about hair? He said he has hair on his nipples. Is that and that's... Oh, yeah. And then a dot of blood on his sheets. What about hair? He said he has hair on his nipples. Is that fine, Eddie? I don't have no hair on my nipples. I don't even have hair on my chest. I'm not a hairy guy.
Starting point is 00:31:30 That would definitely take me to the doctor if I was a man and I was bleeding out my nipples. Yeah, sure. Yes. All right, well, that is your rumor report. I'm Angela Yee. Okay, thank you, Yee. So, just to give you, discharge from your nipple, a painless lump or thickening in your breast tissue,
Starting point is 00:31:49 changes to the skin covering your breast such as dimpling, puckering, redness, or scaling. Scaling. Scaling. Scaling. Changes to your nipple such as redness or a nipple that begins to turn inward. So, question. If your nipple bleeds, and that could be a symptom of breast cancer. If your butt bleeds, is that a symptom of prostate cancer?
Starting point is 00:32:03 Why, is your butt bleeding? You should go get that checked, bro. I'm just asking. There's blood in your stool. You should go get that check. Alright, well, we just found out something new today. But we got front pages when we come back. Trust me, if I had blood in my stool, I'd be asking y'all. You would? Matter of fact, I'd have went to the doctor already and been telling y'all, hey, man, I got blood
Starting point is 00:32:17 in my stool. Our first question would be, what did you do last night? Well, that's it, man. Now, let's talk about Donald Trump and front page news. He got very upset as he was being questioned, and you'll find this interesting. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. This is The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Now tonight, there is an NFL game. Who's playing? Ram Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I don't know. What are their records? Do we know their records? No? Now tonight, there is an NFL game. Who's playing? Rams, Seahawks, all right? I don't know. What are their records? Do we know their records? No? Charlamagne, you know their records? The Rams or the Seahawks? Rams or Seahawks?
Starting point is 00:32:52 I think the Rams are 3-1. I think the Seahawks might be 3-1 too. Let me see. Okay, so it should be a good game tonight. Naive, what else we talking about? We are going to be talking about Donald Trump. Oh, boy. Yes, he did two appearances yesterday.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And you can tell he's extremely bothered. He was at an East Room press conference. And as he was facing questions about what's going on with Ukraine and his predicament, he was being questioned by Jeff Mason from Reuters, one reporter. And here's what happened. The question, sir, was what did you want President Zelensky to do about Vice President Biden and his son Hunter? Are you talking to me?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yeah, it was just a follow-up of what I just asked you, sir. You ready? We have the president of Finland. Ask him a question. I have one for him. I just wanted to follow up on the one that I asked. Did you hear me? Did you hear me? It's a whole hoax. And you know who's playing into the hoax? It's people like you and the fake news media that we have in this country. And I say, in many cases, the corrupt media. Did you hear me?
Starting point is 00:33:53 I am your fascist boss, and I suppress the media. Okay? That's what I do. He's crazy. Next question. Sheesh. Right. So he still never answered the question.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Did you hear me? He just got upset. You don't have to answer the question Continue on He's the president of the United States of America The fastest president of the United States of America You don't answer questions that the press ask How dare you
Starting point is 00:34:14 Alright, Bernie Sanders He has been hospitalized for a blocked artery And he has canceled campaign events He also posted Thanks for all the well wishes I'm feeling good I'm fortunate to have good health care and great doctors and nurses helping me to recover.
Starting point is 00:34:28 None of us knows when a medical emergency might affect us and no one should fear going bankrupt if it does. Medicare for all. That was his statement that he posted yesterday. I rock with Bernie Sanders. I like Bernie Sanders a lot, man. But for anybody who is
Starting point is 00:34:43 practicing ageism and they think Bernie Sanders is too old, this didn't help dispute their feelings. I mean, it might make you feel a little way. Absolutely. A little? Yeah. You know? You know what, Granddad? I think you might need to sit down, man, because the pressures of being president are a lot. It might be too
Starting point is 00:35:00 much on your heart. Absolutely. Alright, an ex-Dallas cop, Amber Geiger, she has been sentenced, and she was sentenced to 10 years. That was for killing Botham Jean. She walked into his apartment, allegedly by accident,
Starting point is 00:35:12 and shot and killed him. So, as she was sentenced, she's, by the way, the third officer in Dallas County to be found guilty of murder since 2016. A lot of things
Starting point is 00:35:22 happened in court. Jurors were shown three Pinterest posts that she saved on her account and commented. There was a picture of a military sniper with a text that said, stay low, go fast, kill first, die last, one shot, one kill, no luck, all skill. And then there's another picture that she commented on under a picture of a minion from Despicable Me. She said, people are so ungrateful. No one ever thanks me for having the patience not
Starting point is 00:35:42 to kill them. These things were all read in court, as well as some comments that she made about Martin Luther King Jr. and not wanting to have to work, the parade, and so on and so forth. Now, after the 10-year murder sentence was read, that's when Botham Jean's brother actually spoke and gave his statement. I forgive you, and I know if you go to God and ask him, he will forgive you. Again, I'm speaking for myself, not even bad for my family. But I love you just like anyone else. I'm not going to say I hope you rot and die just like my brother did, but I personally want the best for you.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And I wasn't going to ever say this in front of anyone, but I don't even want you to go to jail. I want the best for you because I know that's exactly what both of them would want you to do. I don't know if this is possible, but can I give her
Starting point is 00:36:40 a hug, please? He did give her a hug and all of his family members burst into tears after that. And even the judge, Tammy Kemp, who her a hug, and all of his family members burst into tears after that. And even the judge, Tammy Kemp, who's also black, was moved and went to embrace Amber Geiger as well. And y'all think that's normal? What part of it normal? Him forgiving? Just the whole thing. You think it's normal for him to do that, for the judge to get off the bench and come hug the woman,
Starting point is 00:37:02 for the other police officer to be in there rubbing the woman's hair, comforting her, y'all think that's normal? None of that's normal. None of that's normal at all. I think that brother can forgive all he wants, do whatever it takes to make yourself feel better, but let's be clear, what comes out your mouth and what you really feel on the inside in a situation like that rarely line up, and I don't know how his brother felt.
Starting point is 00:37:20 All I'm saying is when I see the judge get off the bench and hug her and hand her a Bible, and I see another black woman officer rubbing her hair in court to comfort her, I can't help but see situations like this and think to myself, this is the effects of Christian slaveholders using the Bible to justify slavery. Like they would whip our ass, abuse us, rape us, persecute us, and then tell us to forgive them because not forgiving them would make God punish us. What type of backwards-ass logic is that?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Well, we always talk empathy, right? We always talk about forgiving. We always talk about feeling somebody, right? And in this situation, I don't think this lady went in that apartment trying to kill that brother. I honestly don't. I think it was an accident.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I think it was a mistake. So the fact that his brother said, look, I forgive you. You know, I forgive you. And forgiveness is not for the person. It's for how he feels. It's for yourself. So I think as far as empathy, I think people have empathy for that woman.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And the judge did hug the Jean family first. And Amber Geiger actually got up and went to hug the judge. And the judge kind of paused first, like didn't know what to do. And that's when she did hug her. It wasn't like she ran over and just hugged her. She hugged the family, the Jean family first. And then Amber Geiger got up. Well, let's talk about this.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Let's open up the phone lines. Oh, yes, because I got up. Well, let's talk about this. Let's open up the phone lines. Oh, yes, because I got some more thoughts. Let's have a discussion. Let's have a discussion. All right, 800-585-1051. What are your thoughts? All right. Now, I thought about this last night,
Starting point is 00:38:37 and my wife and my daughter, my oldest daughter, we talked about it. My daughter is one of those people. She's kind of like me where she doesn't forgive anybody. And when I broke it down with her, I explained the whole thing. At first,
Starting point is 00:38:46 she was like, my daughter was like, I would never forgive. Then when I spoke to her, I was like, look, and this is going to be crazy. I've been on people that'll be mad.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Take out the fact that she was a police officer, right? Because her being a police officer really has nothing to do with it when she killed this man. She was off duty. She walked into an apartment
Starting point is 00:39:00 that she thought was hers. She made a mistake and she killed this brother. Was she wrong? Absolutely. Horrible. Horribly hers. She made a mistake and she killed his brother. Was she wrong? Absolutely. Horrible. Horribly. But she made a mistake. So will people forgive because she made a mistake? That's on you.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You know, but she didn't necessarily intentionally try to kill this man in my opinion. Yeah, some people feel like it's iffy. Some people feel like how could she have made such a mistake? How did this even happen? Did she plan to kill him? Did they know each other? Was this a premeditated situation?
Starting point is 00:39:28 I don't know about the before. I'm talking about this after, okay? Because when I look at that courtroom, I say to myself, damn, when our whole life, the images they show us of authority figures are white. When we grow up worshiping a white Jesus, you will never rebel against any master that appears in the physical form of your oppressors. No way you ever see anything they do is wrong. And on the flip side, it's also impossible for the oppressors to not view themselves as God. And when they view themselves as God, they will always think they
Starting point is 00:39:54 are right. Because in their mind, that's just the natural order of life. That's why they can persecute us and ask us to forgive them. And I just feel like, man, we got to break these spiritual and mental chains. Because when I saw that, it looked nuts to me. And I don't know if that's forgiveness. It just looked to me like,
Starting point is 00:40:09 Master, we sick, Master. Master, we sick. Master, you going to jail. Master, we going to jail. Master, we just got 10 years. Master, we just got 10 years. I don't want to critique somebody while they're grieving or tell them how they should grieve or shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And I will say they've been going through this. The judge ain't grieving. Yeah, but like I said, the way that that happened with the judge wasn't like she ran over and gave her a hug. It was Amber Geiger who jumped up to give her a hug, and she hesitated, not sure what to do at that moment. Let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And I ain't taking it like that, Charlamagne. Now, the young man in South Carolina that shot up the church and everybody in the church, they forgave? That's a little different to me. Yes, they did. That's a little different. Not all of them, though, because if you saw the Emmanuel AME movie, one of them brothers was like, hell no, I don't forgive him. He killed my mama.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Right, but they forgave. That's a little different. He had all intentions to kill people. This one, not so much. But let's open up the phone lines. Let's have a conversation. 800-585-1051. You're triggering me.
Starting point is 00:41:04 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.85-1051. You're triggering me. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Pull out your phone. Call in right now. Call me. Add your opinion to The Breakfast Club topic. Break it down. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:41:17 The Breakfast Club. It's topic time. Pick up the phone, baby. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're talking about the incident that happened yesterday.
Starting point is 00:41:43 You want to explain, Eve? Yes. Amber Geiger, the ex-cop from Dallas who killed Botham Jean was sentenced to 10 years in prison and that's when Brent Jean, who is Botham Jean's younger brother jumped up and gave, well he didn't just jump up he gave a statement where he forgave
Starting point is 00:41:55 Amber Geiger and hopes that she does well and gave her a hug. Right, and some people are upset about that. They're upset that Brother forgave. They're upset that the judge gave the woman a hug. Even upset that the court officer was rubbing the lady's hair. So, we're going to the phone line asking your thoughts, but before we do,
Starting point is 00:42:12 what are your thoughts, Yee? My thought is that I can't imagine how I react in a situation like that if that happens to I have an older brother to my own older brother. I can only imagine that in my head I try to make sense of it and they've been going through this whole process for a year. It's been over a year
Starting point is 00:42:28 since this occurred and maybe he's gone through a lot of different emotions during that time and for the sake of releasing his own burden maybe that's how he feels at that time just because he doesn't want to weigh himself down with hatred and anger. That's how I looked at it. Listen, I'm not questioning anyone when they
Starting point is 00:42:44 choose to forgive. I haven't reached that level of healing yet listen I'm not questioning anyone when they choose to forgive I haven't reached that level of healing yet I'm not whole enough yet to be so forgiving of people maybe if I continue to do the work in therapy I'll get there but I'm not there now
Starting point is 00:42:52 but I do realize black people seem to me to only be that forgiving to white people we damn sure are not that forgiving of each other and I just feel like
Starting point is 00:43:00 this is what happens when you worship white Jesus all your life okay white Jesus is not your ally black people. You will never rebel against any master that appears in the physical form of your oppressors. It's impossible.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And it's also impossible for the oppressors to not view themselves as God, and they will always feel like they are right by virtue of natural order, even when they have done us wrong, like in this situation. I like to look at life a little differently. I like to put myself in different situations. And I put myself in that woman's situation.. I like to put myself in different situations. And I put myself in that woman's situation. Me walking into an apartment that's not mine.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I see somebody. I get nervous. I pull out my gun and I shoot somebody. Does that mean I deserve to go to jail for 99 years? No. I should get a penalty. I should get a penalty. I should be charged for killing somebody.
Starting point is 00:43:42 But it was an accident. You know what I mean? I would be horrific for me to even think about me killing somebody, especially by accident. I don't think that that person deserves to go to jail for the rest of their life. Yes, there should be a punishment, and they believe that punishment is 10 years. We've seen cases where we've seen black women defending themselves, you know, against abusive partners, home intruders, whatever, and they've gotten 20, 30 years of life. What's the difference between them and Amber Geiger? Yeah, I would have definitely
Starting point is 00:44:10 given her a longer sentence. You know, the prosecution was asking for 28 years. The fact that they were even considering the castle doctrine. The castle doctrine is supposed to protect homeowners from intruders. How could they even consider giving her the castle doctrine when she was the intruder in somebody else's house? If that ain't privilege,
Starting point is 00:44:26 I don't know what is. Well, let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Hey, DJ here. What's up? Turn your radio down, bro. What's going on, brother? I'm tired to die. I'm tired to die. Man, my thing. Alright. You gotta look at it. People feel the type of way about stuff like this, okay? Alright. His family wanted
Starting point is 00:44:41 to apologize for what he did or whatever what she did made the case make be. But, your boy stopped the slavery. Everything is not about slavery. She made a mistake. She went in the wrong house. She killed somebody. She got her time. Let her do her time. She gonna grieve about her time
Starting point is 00:44:58 and what she did. Not his family grieving about him being gone. They said they peaked. Let the man live on. Let her do her time. She get out there to eat. Everything is about slavery, bro. That's a goddamn lie. You know what I'm saying? If you don't think that PTSD, post-traumatic slave disorder, is real, you a goddamn fool. 800-585-1051. We're asking your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Phone lines are wide open. Call us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. I know we have. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. That clean on you.
Starting point is 00:45:29 You with that? Call me. Add your opinion to The Breakfast Club topic. Come on. 800-585-1051. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Nafi just joined us. Yeah, you want to give us an update of what we were talking about? Howdy, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Nafi just joined us. Yeah, you want to give us an update of what we were talking about? Yes, we're talking about ex-Dallas cop Amber Geiger, who shot and killed Botham Jean. She went into his apartment, mistaking it for her own, is what she claims happened, and shot and killed him. Now, the family was in court, and Botham Jean's younger brother, Brent Jean, actually gave a statement directly to Geiger and then gave her a hug.
Starting point is 00:46:09 All right. Well, we're taking your calls. 800-585-1051. Hello, who's this? Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. What's up, bro? Morning. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I agree with Charlamagne and against y'all because everybody got their own opinion. One love to you, DJ. One love to Yee. And one love to Charlamagne, man. So, one clues, but I'm a peace for y'all, man. Alright, you're not gonna expand what you believe, but that's it, that's all you got. Oh, well, as far as what I believe, I just believe, man, that took
Starting point is 00:46:36 us all the way back to the first slave, and I just wanted to say, man, to me, it feel like slavery is here because there was no justice in that whatsoever as far as, uh, like me saying I'm going to kill your mother and then come hug you right after that. So it was more sympathy for her mother that looked like she about to die any second.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And I think maybe they cut a little deal or something like that. I don't know what the heck going on, man. That thing is crazy to me. So it just felt like maybe they cut a little deal under the table that nobody know about. Thank you, brother. And one thing I will say, Amber Geiger has taken complete responsibility for everything
Starting point is 00:47:09 that she did, you know, and in this murder that was very tragic, she did take responsibility. Hello, who's this? She's in the wrong. Hello, who's this? Alex. Hey, Alex. Good morning. Good morning. Now, what are your thoughts, Alex? Well, my opinion about the situation is that he should have forgiven her.
Starting point is 00:47:29 He definitely should have forgiven her, and this is God's love that he displayed. But the thing is that institutionally, black people can't display that we love somebody in this capacity because of how it affects the rest of us. It really messed up the situation that we're in because we can't even display God's love because it screws everybody else up. That's going through the same situation. Now, all these black people are online, extremely upset with him and upset with the situation. And I am as well.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I don't believe she's even remorseful like that. You know, to me, the judge hugging her was way over the top. But the fact that he had inside of him the capacity to love her still was huge. It made me feel like the same way Nipsey's mother handled the situation. When she said she had perfect peace and she forgave his killer as well.
Starting point is 00:48:15 This is how we're supposed to live. And black people as parents of this earth, this is how we're supposed to conduct ourselves. But we can't because it puts us in the light of oh, well, y'all can keep messing over us. Y'all can keep messing over us constantly. So we got to do
Starting point is 00:48:32 this stuff in private or we got to do it private discussion about it or whatever. We've been talking about this on Facebook all last night, but this is how you're supposed to conduct yourself. We are supposed to love one another like God loves each and every one of us. I understand what she's saying,
Starting point is 00:48:48 but I can't help but see situations like this and think to myself, this is the effects of Christian slaveholders using the Bible to justify things like slavery. Like, they would whip our ass, abuse us, rape us, persecute us, and then tell us to forgive them, because not forgiving them would make God punish us. I mean, people forgiving their own way. Would I be able
Starting point is 00:49:03 to forgive? I don't know. I honestly don't know. But what I do know is I don't think that lady intentionally tried to kill that man. And I think that his brother, by forgiving, I think that shows a lot, man. I think that's what we're supposed to do, right? But it's not just the brother forgiving. It's not just the brother forgiving. It's the judge hugging her and handing her a Bible.
Starting point is 00:49:22 It's the police officer stroking her head to comfort her. I really feel like when you go through your whole life seeing images of authority figures that are white, and when you grow up worshiping a white Jesus, you'll never rebel against any master that appears in the physical form of your oppressor. When you see these white folks, you see Jesus because that's what you grew up worshiping your whole life. I don't know if I see Jesus when I see white folks, but at 800-585-1051. Let's take some more calls. Phone lines are crazy. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you just joined us, we're talking about Amber Geiger a little bit and the whole case. You want to explain to people what's going on with this whole case? Yes. Amber Geiger is the ex-Dallas cop
Starting point is 00:50:05 who just got 10 years in prison. That's for murdering her neighbor, Botham Jean. She's white, he's black. She walked into his apartment by accident and shot and killed him. And in court, as she was sentenced, Botham Jean's younger brother,
Starting point is 00:50:17 Brent Jean, gave his victim's impact statement, spoke directly to Geiger, forgave her, and also asked God for her forgiveness. Told her she should ask God for forgiveness and then gave her a hug. But isn't that what we're supposed to do? Are we supposed to forgive people, especially if they make mistakes? I'm not saying that I can, but isn't that what we're taught to do? Isn't that what the Bible tells us to do?
Starting point is 00:50:37 Man, that damn Bible. Whoa. That's the same Bible. I don't know if I would say that. That's the same Bible that slave masters used to control the goddamn slaves. So listen, I have no problem with forgiveness, but I swear it seems like, you know, we so forgiving of white folks when they do us wrong, but we love to cancel each other. That's what I see when I see situations like this.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And I'm not questioning anyone when they choose to forgive. You know what I'm saying? Like I said earlier, I haven't reached that level of healing yet, but I do realize that black people seem to me to, to only be that forgiving to white people, because we damn sure not that forgiving of each other. Nala. Good morning. Oh my God, I got through to you guys. Good morning. Now, I'm reading your story
Starting point is 00:51:14 and it says that your niece was killed by gun violence? Yes, my niece, Alexandra Gong, she was killed by gun violence and she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and got shot. She was 19 years old. And the guy got caught.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I would never be able to forgive him. Like, no, I wish he had gotten life. And he pled guilty and got 16 years. He'll be getting out soon. This was in 2008. So, absolutely not. Like, I wouldn't be able to. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Well, I'm sorry for your loss your loss mama And you're doing just fine And I agree with Charlamagne Like somebody needs to speak to this I understand he's grieving Everybody grieves differently But there's no way It was too soon Like I couldn't
Starting point is 00:51:57 I wouldn't be able to Yeah and people act like religion Wasn't put here to control us And keep us from rebelling I mean you can go to a scripture Like Ephesians 6, 5, where it says slaves obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, just as you would obey Christ.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Lord have mercy. Hello, who's this? Tanya from Florida. Hey, Tanya, turn your radio down. Got it. Thank you. Now, what are your thoughts, Tanya? I agree with Charlamagne 100%.
Starting point is 00:52:21 That entire thing was ridiculous. I did not have that much empathy. That person inflicted all that pain on me and I'm supposed to hug them and say, you know, I understand? No, absolutely not. Okay. Well, thank you, Tanya. Right. Thank you. And the judge, the police officer
Starting point is 00:52:37 rubbing their head, like I'm telling you, man, this was one of those this was one of those, Massa, we sick, Massa. We going to jail for 10 years, Massa. Oh, Masa, we getting locked up. Oh, Masa, we is sorry. That's what that looked like to me. I just accept whatever Brent John needs to do to heal himself for losing his brother.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And so if that's what he wanted to do for him specifically, that's what it is. I know there's a lot of people who would never be able to do that. I don't know what I would do. I can't imagine myself hugging somebody and making that statement, but that's just myself. I don't know what I would do. I can't imagine myself hugging somebody and making that statement, but that's just myself. I don't know what I would do in that position.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And if that's what he needed to do for himself to get rid of that burden on himself, then more power to him. And I agree, man. Whatever he has to do to allow his life to continue on and so he can have peace, I'm with that brother. I don't want us to condemn him,
Starting point is 00:53:22 whose brother passed away last year and was murdered last year, and that's what he had to do. I want to let that brother. I don't want us to condemn him, whose brother passed away last year and was murdered last year. And that's what he had to do. I want to let that brother just feel like, okay, that's what you needed to do. You do your thing. I haven't reached that level of healing yet. But it's wild to see a courtroom of black people acting like the woman, Amber Giger, was the victim. That was wild to me.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And I don't know. If you're saying that they hugged other people in the courtroom too, that's not what they're showing us in the media. Yeah, no, it's in the media. You see, there's pictures and videos. She's hugging the whole family first. The judge hugs the whole John family first. And then Amber Geiger actually gets up to give a hug and the judge kind of hesitates.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And then she did. I still have never seen a judge hug somebody that they sentenced, especially the murder. What's the moral of the story, guys? The moral of the story, and this is just Charlemagne Tha God's moral of the story. I can't speak for nobody else in this room. But to me, this is just what happens when you worship white Jesus all your life, okay? White Jesus is not your ally, black people.
Starting point is 00:54:15 You will never rebel against any master that appears in the physical form of your oppressors. It is impossible. And it's also impossible for the oppressors to not view themselves as God. And they will always feel like they are right by virtue of natural order, even when they have done us wrong, like Amber Giger did that brother, Botham John, wrong. Rest in peace to him.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Alright, now we got rumors on the way? Yes, now this is an odd story. Let's talk about Tiffany Haddish, and one of her hookups that she talks about on Ellen DeGeneres, and that person is denying it. Alright, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors and talk Wendy Williams. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor report.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Rumor report. This is The Rumor Report. Talk to them. With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Wendy Williams was talking about Jeremy Meeks, The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, Wendy Williams was talking about Jeremy Meeks, the hot felon who left his woman and got with the top shop billionaire and then dumped her also. Anyway, just, you know, just discussing that. Then Wendy Williams started talking about her own life. And she talked about how you can tell she's talking about her ex
Starting point is 00:55:25 husband kevin here and his mistress here's what happened kelvin and i've only said this as a joke about topics you know poke a hole in the condom and get pregnant but that backfired on me didn't it she regrets that that mess though life is not what you think it is behind the scenes. Trust me. Homegirl is miserable. In the meantime, I'm over here, you know. That's what you get. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Hey, man. Okay. Salute to Sharina Hudson, a.k.a. Big Baby. You know what I'm saying? That's Calvin Hunter's baby's mother. I know she probably is miserable. What is going on? Why do you call her big baby?
Starting point is 00:56:07 Is that her nickname? That was her nickname. Baby probably can't never sleep because Kelvin Hunter always yelling. Kelvin mad at his own situation, so he's taking it out on Sharina. Sharina probably wants to leave and Kevin telling her, I lost everything because of you, yo. I lost everything because of you. You think the money's tight?
Starting point is 00:56:21 Not taking accountability for nothing. You did that good. Oh, yeah, man. Money definitely tight. I'm sure money tight. You know he's not taking accountability for nothing. You did that good. Oh, yeah, man. Money definitely tight. I'm sure money tight. You know, he's not taking accountability for nothing. So I would be miserable, too. I understand, Sharina.
Starting point is 00:56:34 All right, well, Wendy is out here living her best life, and she actually was hanging out with your girl, Tiffany Haddish, two of your homies hitting the town. So Tiffany Haddish and Wendy Williams, they posted pictures together. Now, Tiffany Haddish is in the news also because she is saying that she had a little hookup with Chingy back in the day. Listen to her on Ellen DeGeneres.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Have you ever dated a celebrity that the world doesn't know about? But was it really dating or did we just hook up? Chingy, it was a hookup. That was the early 2000s, y'all. I don't even know if that counts anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Of course it does. You and Chingy. I like the way you do that right there. Well, Chingy took to social media and said, now, at Tiffany Haddish knows damn well that's a lie, and since she lied, I'm going to tell the truth. She used to hook up with my brother, not me, but she liked me. Hey,
Starting point is 00:57:17 if we're going to be honest, let's be honest. So... Her and her brother look alike? Her and his brother look alike? I don't know what his brother looks like. I mean, Tiffany wouldn't have no reason to lie on her vagina, right? I don't know What his brother Looks like I mean Tiffany Wouldn't have no reason To lie on her vagina right I don't know Maybe it's just A misunderstanding
Starting point is 00:57:28 Maybe You can't misunderstand I don't know You can't misunderstand What kind of misunderstanding Tell me how A misunderstanding Can happen in this situation
Starting point is 00:57:36 Maybe she thought His brother was him Maybe they do look alike Jesus Christ Listen very honorable Of Chingy Not to claim it If it's not true
Starting point is 00:57:44 Because he could easily Use that to get hot. You know what I mean? Right. At least for the moment. I don't know why would you want to deny Tiffany Haddish, right? So maybe it didn't really happen. I don't know what went down, but Tiffany hasn't responded back yet.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I don't see, I've never seen a woman lie on her vagina in a case like that. Guys are usually the ones lying on their vagina. No, she didn't. I say they had sex. It might have just been a little hookup. Maybe they kissed or something like that. But when you say hookup, don't you usually think sex when you say hookup?
Starting point is 00:58:09 No, it could be something a lot less than that. It could be y'all just made out. You know, hookup is not necessarily sex. He gave her some head. Can I say that? No. Well, all right. We jumped that.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Definitely cannot say that. Now, Kylie Jenner, in the meantime, has been hanging out with Tyga after her and Travis Scott just broke up. They're taking a break. And people are saying that it wasn't anything that was planned. I guess they have some mutual friends. They have been in touch off and on since they broke up in 2017, but they don't talk often.
Starting point is 00:58:37 You just break up with me today and tomorrow you with the ex? That might have been done on purpose. I don't care how much money you got. Stay over there. You want to go back to your ex. I'm lying. You know with those Kardashian-Jenners. She might have been like, okay, Travis, you want to do you? Watch what I do.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And let's be clear, Travis got his own money too. He may not have a billion dollars, but Travis is doing just fine. He's doing great. That's very disrespectful. We break up for a split second and we got a child together and you just He's doing great. Yeah, he's doing great. And that's very disrespectful. You know what I'm saying? We break up for a split second and we got a child together and you just go see your ex all of a sudden. I mean, you've been thinking about your ex the whole time.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Now, according to sources, though, it wasn't a hookup with just the two of them. It was a mutual friends thing. Nope. Nope. Then they said they allegedly went to the studio after. What should she do? Leave? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Yes. As soon as she see him in there, she was like, you know what, let me get out of here because I know how this can be miscarried. You know it's going to be a photo op? Nope, get out of Dodge. Or she might be like,
Starting point is 00:59:30 okay, you want to play me? Watch what I do. All right. No. You stay over there. Well, according to sources, their breakup was amicable, Kylie and Travis Scott.
Starting point is 00:59:39 It wasn't a cheating scandal. There was no big fight. They just had been doing so much so quickly. They had a very long honeymoon phase, love, touring, going on vacations, raising their daughter.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I want Travis to get half and I think Travis deserves spousal support. They're not married. They're not married? No. There gotta be some common law marriage
Starting point is 00:59:56 in California or something. I think Travis deserves half for all his pain and suffering. Okay? And they got a child together. They need spousal support and child support for Travis Scott. It's crazy how just a couple together. We need spousal support and child support
Starting point is 01:00:05 for Travis Scott. It's crazy how just a couple of weeks ago it was like, oh, they're getting married and now... Huh? What?
Starting point is 01:00:12 You all right? All right, I'm Angela Yee and that's your rumor report. You all right over there? Nope. All right. Well, who you giving your donkey to then?
Starting point is 01:00:20 You know, your Uncle Charlo always says the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And I need a young lady named Maya Autry to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word for her. If you know Maya Autry, I really want Maya Autry to get some help more than anything.
Starting point is 01:00:35 But I got to tell you the story for after the hour. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warheads. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 01:01:22 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post
Starting point is 01:02:23 Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's light-hearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace,
Starting point is 01:03:26 have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. They chose you. Theagne to tap these gloves. Let's go. They had to make a judgment of who was going to be on the donkey of the day. They chose you. The breakfast club, bitches. Who's donkey of the day today? Well, Ed Sheeran, donkey of the day for Thursday, October 3rd, goes to a young 32-year-old woman named Maya Autry.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Now, what does your Uncle Charla always tell you at least two to three times on this radio every week? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And Maya Autry is no exception. She's from the Bronx. I don't even know where to start with this story. I don't even know how to approach this level of crazy. So let me just begin by telling you the story.
Starting point is 01:04:37 It was a warm and sunny Saturday in the Bronx. Maya, whose friends say she has gone off the rails in the past couple of years decided she wanted to go to the Bronx Zoo as Maya is walking through the Bronx Zoo she starts posting clips on her IG story she posted and I'm going to read it just how she typed it she says I really have not fear of nothing breathing animals can feel love just like humans in all capital letters. Now, when a person is posting things like that, what is prompting her to say these things? Why is she telling the world that animals can feel love just like humans? Well, let's go to ABC7 New York for the report to hear what she did.
Starting point is 01:05:17 The Bronx Zoo where a woman rather unsmartly climbed into the lion's exhibit, came face to face with the animal, and then appeared to tease it with her dance moves. Well, the woman wasn't hurt, but talk about lucky. And now cops are investigating. This is where the video was taken. You can see there's no glass here, but there is a giant moat. That moat is about 14 feet deep. It's one of the safety barriers intended to keep the animals separated from the people. The woman seemed to be standing right here and the lion on his side of the moat. The woman wasn't injured. Someone reported the incident to zoo officials who released this statement that reads in part, this action was a serious violation and unlawful trespass that could have resulted in serious injury or death. We have a zero tolerance policy
Starting point is 01:06:01 on trespass and violation of barriers. Now, I don't know what kind of weed they selling in the Bronx, because in this video, she was definitely smoking weed before she did what she did. But this is why y'all have to stop smoking weed named after wild animals. OK, why would you smoke something called Silverback Gorilla? Why would you smoke something called Walrus Kush? Why would you smoke something called Black Mambo? Why would you smoke something called White Rhino? Why would you smoke something called Pitbull?
Starting point is 01:06:28 Now, I know Pitbulls aren't in the zoo, but they might need to be. Alright? You smoke weed that's named after wild animals and go to the zoo, you start thinking you're a wild animal, you damn self. Alright? Smoke some weed named after a wild animal, watch the live action version of The Lion King, now you just can't wait to be king.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Alright? Do you know in one of the videos, she Now you just can't wait to be king. All right. Do you know in one of the videos she went into the giraffe enclosure and wrote, literally, I have the same diet as a giraffe. First of all, I don't know if you have the same diet as a giraffe, Maya, but you definitely were as high as giraffe vagina. Now, a lot of her friends are saying that she has snapped over the past couple of years. There's some concerns that there may be some mental health issues. Clearly something is wrong because to me this is suicidal behavior. Alright, this young woman needs help. I don't think she should be arrested for trespassing because that's what the police in the Bronx
Starting point is 01:07:14 are looking for her for right now. I believe she needs to be picked up and given a psychological evaluation because any person that jumps in a lion enclosure and says, I really have not fear of nothing breathing. Animals can feel love just like humans. That lion does not love you more than it loves to eat. That's what I need her to know. All right. You lucky that lion was not hungry. Or maybe that
Starting point is 01:07:35 lion really was Mufasa and had some compassion and empathy for your nut ass because I need to tell the rest of us something. She said animals can feel love like humans. As if her showing love would have kept her from being lunch if that lion was hungry. Understand this. If you expect the world to be fair with you because you are fair, you're fooling yourself. That's like expecting the lion not to eat you because you didn't eat the lion. Let me tell you something, Maya. If you place your head in a lion's mouth,
Starting point is 01:08:03 then you cannot complain one day if it happens to bite it off. You're lucky you're not dead right now. And now that you have lived to see another day, we need you to get some help, okay? If you know Maya, encourage her to get some help. I really wish the police weren't looking for her for trespassing because she's not a criminal. The only person she seemed to be a threat to was herself.
Starting point is 01:08:20 So let's approach this situation a little different, okay? This is a crime, you know, technically because of the trespassing, but she clearly needs some help. Now, before I give her the biggest hee-haw, let's play a game of Guess What Race It Is! All right. I know Envy is waiting for this one.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I'm ready for this one. Okay, I'm going to give you the few clues, all right? Okay, all right. Maya Autry, the Bronx, the BX baby, smoking a little weed, jumps in a lion enclosure, starts sending out quotes like, I am one with the animals, okay? Guess what race it is. So are me or ye? That was you, but you were so excited.
Starting point is 01:09:02 You're excited. All right, all right, all right. Now, I'm breaking this down. I've been writing everything down, writing the clothes down. I am at one with the animals, right? That's a white person phrase. Don't go white yet, though. Jumps in the cage with a lion.
Starting point is 01:09:13 That's a white person thing, right? Okay, okay. Eats like a giraffe. That's a white person thing. Definitely. This is what threw me off. Listening to Big Pun. She was listening to Big Pun.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Not that white people don't listen to Big Pun. But she's from the Bronx, right? I didn't play that part yet. I heard that part. Oh, okay. All right. But I heard her listening to Big Pun. That don't mean nothing.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Hip-hop is pop culture now. All right. Hip-hop is universal. It depends. What song was it? Was it an album cut or was it a single? It was still not a player remix. Yeah, it was not a player remix, right?
Starting point is 01:09:42 Oh, okay. So with all that being said, other than the post where the post where she posted seems a little like an urban post, I would have to say white. White! I'll punch you in your face if you say the word urban. Did you just say it sounded like an urban post? Yeah, black post. Yeah, black.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Like with black slang. Urban slang. You know black doesn't equal urban. Well, you know what I mean. Oh. Sounded like something I would have posted. Sounded like me. But anyway, white people.
Starting point is 01:10:04 All right, your people. No, no. Yee, you ain't Dominican no more. You white. Yee. Yes. Maya Autry, the Bronx, smoking weed, jumps in a lion enclosure and a giraffe enclosure. Guess what race it is.
Starting point is 01:10:18 I'm going to guess that she was white because we not jumping in no cage. That's what I said. You can't eat like a giraffe and one with the animals. That's what I said. You can't eat like a giraffe and I'm one with the animals. That's white. Okay, well, we do have a clip of Maya Autry talking. This is a big clue. I should have played it earlier. I think it may have helped y'all with y'all decisions.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Can we hear Maya Autry? I'm in the Bronx right now. You already know it's me. It's Queen Empress Maya Louise Israel. This weekend is my birthday weekend. I was born 9-30. So shout out to 9-30, September 30th. We in the building.
Starting point is 01:10:49 All the Leavers is lit. We in the building. Shout out to the Bronx. We in the building. Shout out to Big Palm. We in the building. It's lit. Gang, gang.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Bronx, we in the building. Happy birthday to me. And I'm about to go f*** around with Mother Nature. And all the good part of our life. Welcome to heaven. See, why you ain't say gang, gang? Yeah, she's definitely white. You ain't envy.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Before y'all turn y'all test in, y'all can change y'all answers if y'all want to. I'm changing my answer. She said gang, gang is going to be lit. I'm going to F with the animals. Come on, bro. She's black now.
Starting point is 01:11:19 No. I'm going to say she's mixed. Mixed? No. She said gang, gang is about to be lit. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is pure nigga. And powerful imagery at work here. Please let Remy Ma give Maya Autry the biggest hee haw.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Hee haw, hee haw. You stupid mother fucker. You dumb. I can't believe I got that wrong. Oh, I love us even when we're just so goddamn stupid. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Can I see a picture of Hope?
Starting point is 01:11:52 Please? I bet you're looking at her picture saying, yeah, she looks really urban. How does she have the gay? She's pretty tall. Wow. All right. I was wrong. I meant I was wrong.
Starting point is 01:12:06 All right. Askey is next Are you ripping up your test? Yes man I got that one wrong Why did he rip up his test? Come on now A person jumping to a A lion's den
Starting point is 01:12:17 Who does that? You don't recognize Urban Like you used to I think what threw me off was What? The one with the animal thing Cause he didn't say it like How he should have said it like you used to. I think what threw me off was the one with the animal thing because he didn't say it like how he should have said it.
Starting point is 01:12:30 What? What you mean? You know, I didn't know it was like her birthday. I didn't know she screamed out gang gang. She said gang gang. When she screamed out gang gang, I was like,
Starting point is 01:12:39 that's it right there. All right. Anyway, ASCII is next. 800-585-105. When we're doing this, ask you differently. What are we doing,
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yee? So yesterday, we had a caller in, and it was alarming to me. And she was talking about a situation that has to do with domestic violence. All right. And we do have a clinical psychologist, Dr. Jasper, who helps me out a lot. Sometimes there's things that's above me that I know people need help immediately that's professional. And so I'm going to have him give his take because I actually referred her to him yesterday. All right.
Starting point is 01:13:09 So it's about to be lit. We'll get into that when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Get some real advice with Angela Yee. It's Ask Yee. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 01:13:25 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask Yee. And today is a little bit different today because we have some updates of some people that called previously. Right, Yee? Yes, we had a caller yesterday and she's in an abusive relationship with her child's father. They have a young child together. And here is an update of what happened on that call yesterday.
Starting point is 01:13:47 So I have this ex, and we've been kind of, I guess, dating for like about a year and a half now. And we actually have like a four-month-old son. Okay. But I really need to break up with him because at this point, like, the relationship is getting abusive. Oh, so he's physically putting his hands on you not frequently at first it was just a whole lot of verbal things like seeing some of the deepest i've ever heard anybody say to me and then like um once when i was
Starting point is 01:14:18 pregnant i you know i had i just had surgery and me and him got into it and um he like pulled me by my hair no and smacked me wow so that was like the first time that like he's like actually like but hit me and then we just got into it about a week ago and um he punched me like oh my god all right well now we have dr jasper on the line now i did refer her to Dr. Jasper, who has spoken with her. And, you know, just not to to give away too much of what their conversation was about. Dr. Jasper, there's a lot of women who are going through similar things where they're in a situation where they feel like they're stuck with somebody who maybe they have a child together or maybe they feel like they're in love. And that person is physically abusive to them. And we've seen that happen sometimes to family members or people close to us.
Starting point is 01:15:07 And sometimes we feel like, what can we do when we're in that situation or we know someone in that situation? So today, I want to talk about some actionable steps that people can do when they feel stuck. What's up, Doc? What up? What's going on? So now you spoke to this lady. Now what's going on, man? Well, I spoke to her, and without going in great detail, I think probably better to speak to what Angela was talking about a little bit, about what are some of the things that people can do.
Starting point is 01:15:33 First thing I want to say is that everybody's situation is different. And what I mean by that is physical abuse is physical abuse, and I'm not here to talk about sort of the levels, whether it's a smack, a kick, a punch, something like that. But what I mean is there are a lot of different reasons that people stay in these relationships. So the first thing we need to do is, you know, we're quick to judge somebody. I can't believe that person is in this type of situation. You know, I can't believe you're going to stay. You're stupid for staying. You're a dummy. It's not making sense.
Starting point is 01:16:06 So it's very quick to shame, judge or critique somebody in that circumstance. And as hard as that may be, that's something that we definitely shouldn't do. Right. You know, the first thing we need to do is offer some level of support. Some of it is about listening and trying to get a better understanding of what's going on. And maybe through that, they will tell you or show you why they're staying. And a lot of people are too ashamed. You don't want to tell somebody
Starting point is 01:16:33 that this happened to you because you feel ashamed that you allowed it to happen. Or you feel like you deserved it. Listen, some women walk around feeling like they deserved it. That's the way they, and not just women, let me say men and women, walk around feeling like they deserved it. That's the way that, and not just women, let me say men and women, walk around feeling like they deserved it. They go as far as to think that they can save the person.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Right. Because it's my fault, I can help this person. Sometimes they may break down crying, like, I have a problem, don't leave me. Work with me. I'm a work in progress. Absolutely. You know, so there are a lot of things that go on there And everybody's circumstance is different
Starting point is 01:17:07 The caller yesterday has a small child So there's some pressures there Associated with staying Because we have a child together A very small child together You know and we want to be a family So there are a lot of things that happen In those circumstances
Starting point is 01:17:23 You know that doesn't mean you can't be honest with the person. You can be honest with someone without judging them or shaming them. Right. And then you can also talk to them about things like safety. What's a safety plan? You know, if you are intending to leave, here are some of the steps. Here's where you can go for some support. Maybe you can offer up a level of support. Because some of these folks aren't leaving because it's as simple as, I don't have anywhere else to go. I don't have the finances.
Starting point is 01:17:52 He's working. He supports us. What if he cuts off our financial support and I need to be here? Because if not, my child is going to be out on the street. All day. He or she is controlling the bread.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Like, I don't have any paper. I can't afford to leave. I've been isolated from my family. I have family members who don't want to deal with me because I've allowed my partner to isolate me from them. So what are some actionable things that we can do? So let's just say I'm in a relationship with somebody. Financially, I feel like I need to be there
Starting point is 01:18:25 because we have a kid together. We live together. He handles most of the bills. And sometimes people feel like physical abuse is how somebody shows that they love you. Actionable,
Starting point is 01:18:35 meaning the person who's showing support or the person who's experiencing it? The person who's experiencing it. What can I do? Like, what are some things I can do when I feel like
Starting point is 01:18:43 I don't have the finances? I don't want to tell my family members. I feel like I love this person and that he loves me, but he just has a problem. What are some things that some steps that I can start to take or things that I can tell myself? Part of what you can do is start immediately getting help, right? If nothing else, there are a lot of support hotlines that are out there. The domestic abuse hotline exists. That telephone number is 800-799-SAFE. So that that's the first step. And they give a lot of great advice on what to do next. So that's part of it. The second thing you need to do is develop a safety plan. And this is going to sound crazy. It has to be very detailed and specific.
Starting point is 01:19:23 And some of this you have to do without the partner knowing about it, because, of course, that may create some cause for concern or some retaliation. So you almost have to move, you know, and this is not being funny, but you almost have to move like you're in a witness protection program. Be able to set aside some finances on your own to be able to make that move. Be able to set aside a housing plan if that's something that you want to do. Be able to talk to some individuals who provide you a level of support. So if there is a time that you need to leave, you can call upon those individuals and say, hey, the time is now. I'm going to need you to help me move my stuff, move me to a safe, undisclosed location. You know, maybe pick my children up from school. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:06 If that's the case, in terms of actionable items that can be done. Now, of course, you can always encourage that individual or you all as a couple to get help, to participate in treatment. All right, well, hold up. We'll talk more with the doc when we come back. All right, don't move.
Starting point is 01:20:23 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's Ask Ye. Come on, mom. Need relationship advice? Need personal advice? Just need real advice. Call up now for Ask Ye.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Eat the bread. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're talking to Dr. Jasper. Now, if you just joined us, a young lady called a couple of weeks ago and had a problem in her relationship. Let's play a clip of that call. So I have this ex,
Starting point is 01:20:50 and we've been kind of, I guess, dating for like about a year and a half now. And we actually have like a four-month-old son. Okay. But I really need to break up with him because at this point, like the relationship is getting abusive. Oh, so he's physically putting his hands on you.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Not frequently. At first, it was just a whole lot of verbal things, like seeing some of the deepest shit I've ever heard anybody say to me. And then, like, once when I was pregnant, I, you know, I had, I just had surgery and me and him got into it. And he, like, pulled me by my hair. I just had surgery and me and him got into it and he like pulled me by my hair and smacked me. Wow. So that was like the first time that like he's like actually like, but it hit me
Starting point is 01:21:33 and then we just got into it about a week ago and he punched me like in my temple. Oh my God. Yep, we're in the middle of Ask Ye. Alright, we have Dr.asper on the line now you got a question yes dr jasper is there ever time you would advise somebody to stay with someone that's put their hands on them or do you think that's always a deal breaker you gotta break up
Starting point is 01:21:55 i'm gonna be honest with you ye i can't answer that question you know me personally and not professionally i would instantly say no. I would instantly personally say, I don't think there's ever a time that you stay with someone who consistently puts their hands on you, right? And people may say, yeah, they're one-off circumstances. You know, we all have been in relationships and things get out of control and there's some one-offs that occur where things may get physical.
Starting point is 01:22:25 You know, your lady, your lady your man well you know i'm going to talk as a man your lady trying to put her hands on you maybe you want to stop because she's angry at you and we talk about it and that's not a consistent circumstance that may be a little different as long as it's not perpetual but i don't you know professionally i would say that if it's something that has happened on a consistent basis, then there's never a relationship that you should stay in. Well, I just want to thank you, Dr. Kendall Jasper, for always being there.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I know you've helped out a lot of our listeners who I've referred to you, and how can people find you just in case they can't get through on the line here, and they want to know where they can go for some help, because I know you've been really instrumental, you and your team. Shout out to Canaan as well for making sure that people get the help that they need or even just helping people talk through certain situations. And you've been great to us and to our listeners.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I want to thank you for that. But how can people reach you? They can reach me at DocNadu at D-O-C-N-D-A-D-U-D-E. And that's my social media handles. Or they can email me at DocNDude1 at gmail.com. All right. So DocNDude, D-O-C-N-D-A-Dude. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Thank you so much. And we appreciate you for continuing to be a... I want to tell you guys, thank you. And let me just end with this real quick, right? One out of three women deal with some form of unwanted physical, sexual type of advances, right? 25% of our population, female population, are in situations where they're dealing with physical abuse. And it's about 13% for men.
Starting point is 01:24:03 That's a lot of people. Right. That is. It's a men. That's a lot of people. Right. That is. It's a lot. It's a lot of folks. So this is something that we need to consistently talk about
Starting point is 01:24:10 and create safe spaces for people who are experiencing these things. No, I agree with you. I've had to deal with, you know, my own situations
Starting point is 01:24:19 with people around me and their situations. And so it's important for us to have patience with each other, to not judge each other and not shame each other, like you said. All day. All right. Thank you, Dr. Jasper.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Thank you. Y'all have a good one. You too, Nebro. All right. Ask Yi. 805-85-1051. Usually we do relationship advice, but today Yi just wanted to do an update. Now we got rumors on the way? Yes. Let's talk about the Kardashians and the Jenners. I guess, you know, the two of them are equally famous now.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Is Kylie back with Tyga? Well, no, we're going to talk about a new venture that they are launching. Alright, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Gee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Tiffany Haddish.
Starting point is 01:25:10 She's spilling the tea. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Now, we told you earlier about Tiffany Haddish. She was on Ellen DeGeneres' show and she talked about hooking up with a celebrity that no one knew about. And she said that celebrity was Chingy. Well, Chingy went on social media and said, now Tiffany Haddish
Starting point is 01:25:28 knows damn well that's a lie and since she lied, I'm going to tell the truth. She used to hook up with my brother, not me, but she liked me. Hey, if we're going to lie, let's be honest.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Well, just this morning, about 20 minutes ago, Tiffany Haddish responded and she said, no, honey, I hooked up with him, then his brother. Dang, I wish I still had my two-way pager.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Dropping the clues bombs for Tiffany Haddish. Damn, she said, I'm going to tell you how to truth. My sister don't give a damn. I dig that. Because men have been doing that to women forever. You know what I'm saying? I smashed her and her friend. Well, she didn't say smashed, by the way. I just want to clarify, the hookup does not mean you smashed. She said she hooked up.
Starting point is 01:26:04 I don't know what hookup means. It could just mean kissed. It could just mean made out. It doesn't have to mean y'all had sex. You think it's a bunch of grown people sitting around talking about who they kissed when they was young? I mean, Ellen DeGeneres said that Ellen DeGeneres asked the question, was there anybody that you ever did it? And this was also
Starting point is 01:26:20 like almost 20 years ago. So that could have been what happened. I just don't want to say they had sex. That's not what explicitly was said. What if she said both of them just ate me? I can't say that. You can't say that. What if she said that?
Starting point is 01:26:31 Well, she didn't. But, you know, we don't know what it is. Both of them just put their face in it. There you go. All right. I like the way you eat it right there. Right there. We know you're a big Chingy fan, Charlamagne.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Now let's talk about Erica Campbell. And she was on the Tarramon Hall show and she talked about forgiving. We've been talking about forgiveness so much this morning, forgiving her husband's infidelity. Here's what she said. He told me that he had been unfaithful and he told me that it had been years back. And he thought that if he just stopped and just kept moving forward, it would be fine. And he said he didn't have peace and he couldn't rest. And so we talked about it
Starting point is 01:27:05 and it got dark, of course. OK, I'm good. I'm out. I can do this by myself. But then I began to think about my commitment and what I said to God and how I said for better or for worse. And I asked myself, is he a mistake or did he make a mistake? And I believe he was a good man that made a mistake. All right. She said she thinks he's a good man who made a mistake. And on that topic of forgiveness, Tyler Perry talks about forgiving his abusive father. And Tyler Perry also talks about the power of faith. He's on the cover of People magazine. And he discusses the love from his mother.
Starting point is 01:27:40 And he also discusses how they both endured abuse from his father, Emmett Perry. Him being a functional alcoholic, the thing is he had an incredible work ethic. And I promise, I believe I get my work ethic from him. He worked day and night, rain, sleet, snow, didn't matter, as a contractor, a subcontractor, framing houses. But in the evening, he'd come home and get drunk. Most of the times during the week, because he was working, it was pretty quiet. But the weekends were when the hell would start, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. He would just be a whole other
Starting point is 01:28:10 person. Listen, salute to Tyler Perry. That is a black man that I definitely had wrong and I did not appreciate him and his contributions to the culture when I was younger. But man, is he the one to study now that I'm old and got some damn sense. But with Erica Campbell, isn't that all of us as men?
Starting point is 01:28:25 Aren't all of us good men who make mistakes for the most part? Not always. Some of us are. And some of y'all have a pattern of behavior and it's not just a mistake. You forgive somebody and then they keep on doing it
Starting point is 01:28:36 over and over and over again. And that happens also. You know, it's just a risk you have to take. If you take somebody back, you don't know if it's a one-time mistake or if it's a continuing pattern of behavior. I need you to forgive me the way you forgive Amber Geiger.
Starting point is 01:28:48 All right? Okay, I made a mistake. All right? So some cases deserve forgiveness and some don't. No, I'm just playing. I'm playing along with you. I'm going by your logic.
Starting point is 01:28:56 If I made a mistake and even if it was a big mistake, I deserve to be forgiven, right? Forgiveness also doesn't mean that you have to stay with the person. It just means I forgive you for what you did to me.
Starting point is 01:29:05 All I'm simply saying is I feel like I'm a good man who has made some mistakes in my life as a husband. I forgive every guy who ever cheated on me. I just don't want to be with them no more.
Starting point is 01:29:15 I said I forgive you. What are you talking about? No, I think you need to raise your hand with me. I raised my... Look, why are we talking about old stuff? Why are we talking
Starting point is 01:29:23 about this old stuff? Why are we talking about old stuff? Let's move talking about this old stuff? Why are we talking about old stuff? Let's move on. Yes, I was talking about Tyler Perry. Goodness gracious. Okay. Now, Tyler Perry also says that this whole situation, he actually feels like the abuse and everything
Starting point is 01:29:38 is what led to him getting involved with writing and getting lost in his imagination. I didn't realize it at the time, but that's where my gift to write came from. It was in the heartache, in the hell, in the pain, be it sexual abuse, whatever was happening at the time, in my mind, I could go and be somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Now, looking at where I am now, that's where I go to write. People, Oprah calls me a savant, affectionately, because I'll sit and I'll write the 25 episodes of the shows in two weeks. She's like, how do you do that? How do you sit and do that?
Starting point is 01:30:11 And it's because of that happening to me as a child, using my imagination, I could create these worlds and stay there for hours. Now, Tyler Perry says that he has forgiven his father, and he also has learned
Starting point is 01:30:21 that Emmett wasn't even his biological father. He learned that when he was 41 years old. I think it's easier to forgive parents because you realize that parents be dealing with their own issues as well. I think about my father. He dealt with substance abuse issues and mental
Starting point is 01:30:34 health issues, so when you realize that, you realize he was just doing the best he could. Yeah, there's no manual for raising kids. You just try to figure it out. Alright, and WE tv is prepping another reality show, and this one is about Hollywood parents, since y'all talking it out. All right. And WE tv is prepping another reality show. And this one is about Hollywood parents, since you're talking about parents. So according to the Jasmine brand, they exclusively have reported that Ray J and Princess Love will be on the show along with their daughter, Melody.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Masika will also be on the show. She has a daughter with Fetty Wap and Too Short and his daughter. You know, we just told you he had a daughter for the first time, his first kid at the age of 53. They'll be on the show as well. Okay. All right. I'm Angela Yee, and that is your rumor report. All right.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Thank you. I want to say happy born day to the Reverend Al Sharpton, too, man. Drop one of the clues bombs for Reverend Al. Today is his born day. Reverend Al, what up? Don't forget to drop the bomb, drum. I'm sure he's in the gym right now. What up, Reverend Al?
Starting point is 01:31:21 No, Rev was in the gym two, three hours ago. Oh. I was looking at his IG. And listen, salute to Variety Magazine, too, man. They put me on the 2019 New Power of New York list, all right? Dropping the clues bombs for Variety Magazine. I appreciate that. If you get a chance, go check out that list on Variety.com.
Starting point is 01:31:38 All right. Well, Revolt, and congrats on that list. Revolt, we'll see you tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice Mix is up next. Let's go. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:31:48 We are The Breakfast Club. Now, very great conversation earlier about Amber Geiger and the situation. Again, rest in peace to the Jean family. Jean. Again, rest in peace to the Jean family. Very sad. Very, very sad.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I could never imagine losing a brother, a sister, a family member, or anything like that. Very, very sad. Yes, and I still believe that this is Christianity's impact on the African descendants of slaves. You know what I mean? I mean, the impact that Christianity did on slaves back in the day will never cease to amaze me. And that PTSD, that post-traumatic slave disorder, has been passed on to us because we love our oppressors regardless of what they do to us. It seems to me like we only forgive white folks,
Starting point is 01:32:31 but we cancel each other all day, every day. And in that courtroom, I saw a yes, master. We sick, master. We going to jail for 10 years, master, type situation. That's what I saw. That's just me, though. All right. Well, when we come back, we got your positive note. Don't situation. That's what I saw. That's just me, though. All right. Well, when we come back, we got your positive note.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. You guys have a great day. We'll see you tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Charlamagne, you got a positive note? Oh, and we got a shout out to Charlamagne. He made this new Power of New York list of 2019, according to Variety. So congratulations to that. Janet Mock's on the list. Jennifer Lopez, Jesus Amaro, Craig Melvin, Edward Norton, Scarlett Johansson, Tamron Hall, Kiki Palmer, and Charlamagne. Okay, dope.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Congratulations. Salute to my guy, Jesus Amaro. Salute to Craig Melvin, too. You know, Craig Melvin is a product of South Carolina. When I was doing radio on Hot 1039 in Columbia, South Carolina, where we're syndicated on now, Craig was doing the news on WIS-TV in Columbia, South Carolina. And back then in 2004, the state newspaper in Columbia
Starting point is 01:33:39 listed me and Craig as two of the top people under the age of 30 in the arts in South Carolina and now we on this 2019 Power of New York list together so it's very interesting how God works, how things come full circle. So salute to my guy, Craig Melvin. I will never release the pictures of you
Starting point is 01:33:58 in the club with me on my birthday parties from back in the day, Craig. I'm going to keep that tucked. Great. Well, you got a positive note? Yes. The positive note is timing is everything. If it's meant to happen, it will at the right time for the right reasons. Always trust God because
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