The Breakfast Club - Basketball Wives Reunion pt2 ( Jennifer Williams) and Michael Arceanaux Interview

Episode Date: September 18, 2018

Tuesday 9/18- Rather than going to the Basketball Wives reunion show and risk getting hit by a table, Jennifer Williams decided to come to us instead to air out what really was going on during the sea...son. Moreover, we also had author Michael Arceaneaux stop by to speak about his new book, "I Can't Date Jesus", why he does not do a certain activity in the bedroom and more. Also, Charlamagne gives "Donkey of the Day" to a 53 year old man who threatened to blow up woman who won’t send nude pictures.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:46 Cut the cameras, I'm out of here. I'm not in Greek. What kind of show is this? Let's all listen to this show. The Breakfast Club. With DJ Envy. The captain of this bitch. With Angela Yee, the only one who can keep these guys in check.
Starting point is 00:01:58 With Charlamagne Tha God. I'm a lovable asshole. And this is The Breakfast Club, bitches! Good morning. Well, Angelina's getting her face beat. Show them what's popping. Peace to the planet. It's Tuesday. Yes, it's Tuesday. My mic kind of hot. Turn me down a little bit. Turn me down in the headphones, God.
Starting point is 00:02:33 All right, turn me down in the headphones. Okay, there you go. There you go. Uh. What up? Uh. Uh. What up, son? You good?
Starting point is 00:02:38 You good? I'm on baby watch. Oh, you're on baby watch. Baby countdown. Yes. I am, too. I forgot what you called the thing yesterday. It's a little dilated. Two meters, two inches dilated. Something. Oh, so I'm. Baby countdown. Yes. I am too, so. I forgot what you called the thing yesterday. It's a little dilated, two inches dilated, something.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Oh, so I'm going to say it. Well, yeah, it's about to come. My wife, she's not due until the 27th, but she's been like getting acupuncture and all that kind of stuff because she wants to have a vaginal birth. She doesn't want to have a scheduled C-section. I don't want her to have a scheduled C-section either. So she's been doing all of that kind of stuff. So, you know, they tell you that you gotta have a lot of sex so your
Starting point is 00:03:06 semen can soften the cervix. And she's been doing the acupuncture. And the thing is dilated, whatever, whatever. And so, yeah. Any day now. Okay. What you over there making faces for, Taylor? You little young ain't never got your club shot up. We don't want to hear about your semen. Ain't never got your club shot up yet.
Starting point is 00:03:21 You know what I'm saying? That's right. That's the face of a woman who's never gotten her club shot up. He's in the building. You look like an Egyptian goddess. I was like, I want to come into America. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:03:32 He's so crazy. I had a photo shoot yesterday. I had to preserve the ponytail for today. Don't you look like a goddess? Man, shut up. I had to preserve the ponytail. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I had to wrap my hair last night. Okay. Which I never do. All right. But yeah, shout out to Lute and Riot Magazine. I had a photo shoot with them yesterday. You never wrap your hair at night? No.
Starting point is 00:03:54 She's not really black. Exactly. That's why everybody was laughing at me yesterday. For all the people who don't think Angelina is black, you just proved them right. You don't never wrap your hair at night? Never. Because I don't really wear my hair straight. I always just, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:04 To the point where my wife and daughter wrap their hair together now. It's like they get the little pins and they wrap. I don't even know how to do that. You don't know how to wrap your hair? You never got a Dominican doobie? Well, yeah. I didn't do it, though. I got it done, but I've never wrapped my own hair.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah, you got to stop saying you black. I've been trying not to wear my hair straight, though. That's part of the reason why. I'm trying to get my natural curls back. Now Taylor looking at you in disgust. First it was me about my wife being doing her day. Now she's looking at you like, ugh, you don't wrap your
Starting point is 00:04:33 hair. So you don't do the pins? No, I don't. I've had it done when I go and get my hair done, but I don't know how to do it myself. I could probably wrap your hair. I've seen it so much. We'll try that. Alright. The other day you weren't here, Chalamet, but En don't know how to do it myself. I could probably wrap your hair. I've seen it so much. We'll try that. Alright. The other day, you weren't here, Chalamet, but Envy let me put makeup on him. I did not let you put makeup
Starting point is 00:04:49 on him. I have pictures. I was minding my business. Should I post it? No, forget it. Did you let me put makeup on you? Yep. Okay. I think we need a more diverse show. We gotta add a woman of color to the show, okay? All these years I've been hooking... Let's talk about Envy. All these years I've been getting hoodwinked and bamboozled.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You don't have to wrap your hair. Alright. Jennifer Williams, I'm sure she wraps her hair. She wraps her hair. From Basketball Wives will be joining us this morning. Now, full disclosure, I don't watch Basketball Wives. Me neither. I haven't watched Basketball Wives in years. Okay. But I know Jennifer
Starting point is 00:05:21 because she's a good friend of Anjali. Yes, we actually went to school together. But other than that, I know nothing about basketball. Well, I'll tell you this. She skipped the Basketball Wise reunion, did not show up. She was the only one who was not there. I wanted to come here instead and said, you know what? I'm going to do my one and only interview on The Breakfast Club. Whoa, thank
Starting point is 00:05:37 I guess. No, that's not the brightest TV. Well, all right. We'll take that. I don't know anything about this whole situation. We'll find out. But I'm going to wing it. We'll find out. And also, author Michael Arsenault. Yes, Michael. Yes, Envy.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yes for saying the name right. Who is this guy? He's a journalist also. He wrote the book Can't Date Jesus. And he'll be joining us today to talk about his book and his journeys, his memoir. But he has such an interesting story. I know you guys will really enjoy him. Great personality. I feel like I met him back in the day with Jesus and Mero.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Envy's guys. Not my guys, but I'm sure you did meet him. He's a dope author. I read some of his book. Oh, you did? I did. He's gay, and he doesn't give... Never mind. We'll talk to him when he comes. But he's a New York Times bestselling author, and he's got so much personality.
Starting point is 00:06:24 His book is very open and honest, very funny. It's about love, sex, family, race. He said, in other reasons, I put my faith in Beyonce. Okay. We'll kick it with him a little bit later today as well. Well, let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? Well, y'all ready to drink some weed?
Starting point is 00:06:38 We'll talk about what company is now going to venture into weed-infused drinks. All right. We'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast-infused drinks. All right, we'll get into all that when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. All right, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Hey, I'm so well-rested, man. We are The Breakfast Club. I got a manicure yesterday, a pedicure, and a massage. I got a massage yesterday, too, and guess what I tried for the first time? What? Cupping. What is that? Oh, yeah, yeah, where they do the cups on your back and all that kind of stuff like that?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, you ever did that? No, I never did that. I tried that for the first time, and then the cups are darker in the areas where you really need more circulation. I was out. I did a 90-minute massage. I was snoring while I was getting a massage. I snored so loud one time I woke up because I thought I farted. Ain't that the best? That's my only fear. Let's go to the front page news that I'll fart while I'm getting a massage.
Starting point is 00:07:20 There's nothing wrong with that. Are you sleeping or something? And you know who I seen last night? I seen your ex-buddy, man. I haven't seen him in years. Who's my ex-buddy? Rich Dollaz. I don't mess with bitch Dollaz.
Starting point is 00:07:30 That was your guy, man. That was your guy, too. That was everybody in this guy's room until he started feeling himself on reality TV. I seen him last night. How'd that work out for him? I don't know. I don't know, but anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:40 All right, let's get front page news. Let's talk about Coca-Cola and its new product, Shee. Yes, Coca-Cola is supposedly in talks of creating a new formula for a series of wellness drinks. And the special ingredient is going to be cannabis, cannabinoid, CBD. That's dope. It's a component of marijuana that's supposed to reduce pain, inflammation, and other and treatmental issues like anxiety, depression, and insomnia. So there's not going to be THC.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That's the part that gets you high. But the CBD is the part of the marijuana that actually has the benefits. That's off-brand. I remember back in the day when they had cocaine and Coca-Cola. But that was the rumor. Makes sense. That was the rumor. I don't think that was true.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Was that true? That was an urban legend. It was an urban legend. But there's actually a lot of health benefits. The white guy in the room, Steve, is saying it's true. He would know. That's why it's called Coke. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah, back in the day, it used to be cocaine and Coca-Cola. Allegedly. They actually already sell CBD products, and they don't enforce that you can't have those. It's supposedly still illegal in the United States under federal law. But a lot of companies do have that in their products still. So you can get that on Amazon and other major distribution and retail sites. So it makes sense. Get rid of the part that gets you high.
Starting point is 00:08:44 No THC, but have the parts that give you the benefits. I'm not drinking no marijuana with no Coke. Coke's not good for you. All right. What else are we talking about? I didn't say it's inside the Coke, though. They're creating a new formula. Oh, a new drink.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So I don't know if it's going to be inside of the Coke. I tried it before, marijuana soda, and it gets you high faster because it feels like it just hits the system and blood faster. But it's pretty good. All right. Now let's talk about a... I wasn't here when you guys did this story, but I was watching from Johannesburg, and this was in Tallahassee, Florida.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Donald Crandall Jr., Charlamagne, I believe you gave him Donkey of the Day as well. I don't remember. He was a white man who flashed a gun trying to stop a group of four black college students from getting into an apartment complex. I remember that human jar helmet. Well, now police have issued an arrest warrant for him for flashing that gun. So that warrant is in connection with that incident that happened on the weekend of September 8th. He tried to stop these four black students telling them they didn't belong there.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And he tried to intervene and not let them on the elevator. He said they don't belong at the building. Now there's an arrest warrant. They should hit him with a conspiracy to commit a hate crime charge to him. Yeah, that could have went so left. Imagine, because how would you feel if somebody did that to you? Four kids trying to get on there could have turned into something that was confrontational and physical. Especially in Florida, because everybody has a gun in Florida.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You can own a gun in Florida. Now, Hurricane Florence has left the Carolinas a mess right now. 32 people dead because of this post-tropical cyclone as well. Hundreds of people trapped. They said they've cut off an entire city. About half a million people now still without power. They're saying this epic storm is still continuing because the rivers are still rising.
Starting point is 00:10:19 So in addition to flooding across the Carolinas, there's been flash flood warnings that are in effect since Monday night. And across parts of far southern Virginia, where several tornadoes were confirmed by storm spotters as well. Now in North Carolina, they said residents are slowly being allowed back into their homes in certain areas. So if you guys have been watching everything on the news, it's been really sad seeing the devastation left behind by Florence.
Starting point is 00:10:43 All right. Now, last front page news. Now, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up right now. Maybe you had a bad night, a bad morning, whatever it may be. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?
Starting point is 00:11:12 What's up, Envy? What's up, Trav? Hey. Hey. Oh, my God. Where is he at? She wasn't going to get a face beat. She'd be right back, man.
Starting point is 00:11:21 How do you know it wasn't me? Charlamagne. What's up, sis? How are you? I'm all of God. What did I do? You didn't do anything. Listen, Evie. Yes. You're a dirty dog. Why am I a dirty dog? Put the toilet
Starting point is 00:11:36 seat down for your wife. Look, I mean, I got in trouble. I will now. But my whole thing is, I'm supposed to just make it comfortable. I'm supposed to pull it up when I take a pee, and then when I leave, I'm supposed to put make it comfortable. I'm supposed to pull it up when I take a pee. And then when I leave, I'm supposed to put it back down. I got things to do, too. That's one of the main things that my mother taught us, like me and all my brothers growing up, is that you put the toilet seat down. Hi, Trev.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Hey. No, I got in trouble for that. I'm putting the toilet seat down now. Long story. All right. Good. But listen, I'm actually calling to talk about Wanda and Cat Wim. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:05 So, actually, I'm calling to talk about her husband. Can we drop one of Clues Bond's and Wanda's husbands? Because I need me a man like him. If you don't have a man that's pulling up on people and pulling the hammer out for talking about you, then you ain't got no man. You got to tell the story, Trav, because people may not be caught up on what happened. Oh, sure. So, basically, everybody know that Cat Williams roasted Wanda,
Starting point is 00:12:25 the black Wayne Bryant from the radio show from Frankie and the Wanda show. Watch your mouth. And while Cat Williams was at a comedy show, Wanda's husband and her son pulled up with a hammer. Well, no, that's not that. You got to read the incident report. On the incident report, they said Kat walked up and told Wanda,
Starting point is 00:12:45 I told y'all I was going to make you viral, bitch. And I think that's what set the husband off. And they said the husband said, yo, go ahead, man. And then allegedly Kat was like, I'll beat you up too. Y'all beat your ass. And the husband was like, okay. Yeah. And let's do it.
Starting point is 00:12:55 But, hey, I'm with you, Trav. Listen. That's what you're supposed to do. That's what you're supposed to do as a husband and as a boyfriend. And ladies, if your man not pulling a hammer out on the s***, then leave him. We don't know if he actually pulled the hammer out. They said that he chased Cat Williams and his gun dropped from his waistband.
Starting point is 00:13:11 His gun dropped. That's what I was on the video. That's what I would have said. I mean, but Atlanta is an open carry state when you can have a permit to carry, so that's possible. Oh, don't tell me he out here being clumsy with the hammer. Oh, never mind. He being clumsy with the hammer. Never mind. We don't know the story is what I'm telling you, Trav. We don't know, Trav.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Trav, you changed his mind. Trav with the fake news. Peace. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Brittany. Hey, Brittany. Get it off your chest. So my boyfriend was upset with me because he was doing some work on my car,
Starting point is 00:13:41 and he found a picture of my ex in this box in the trunk of my car. Why you got a picture of your ex in your car? Damn. You looking here and catching a brick line.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You got sloppy, girl. You sloppy. No, because listen, listen, listen. I had just changed jobs and I just packed up my desk and the picture was inside my desk.
Starting point is 00:14:01 After me and him broke up, I had put the picture inside my desk and I just packed everything away up, I put the picture inside my desk and I just packed everything away. Now, I should have threw that out. Unless you still thinking about it. Now, hold on. No, I don't know if you need to throw out old memories.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah, all right. I have pictures of my ex. This is not a big deal. He just probably didn't like seeing it. If we get married, all those pictures go out. And it's been in there for like five months. How long you and your new boo been together? About three months. Oh, that's light. He can't be mad. How long you and your new boo been together? About three months.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh, that's light. You can't be mad. You can't be mad. You can't be mad. That's light, boo. But if y'all married, you got to throw them pictures out, mama. All right. Or leave it at your parents.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Leave them pictures at your parents' house. I don't believe in throwing away pictures and memories. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up. I just want to tell y, my wife did some old letters that some dudes wrote my wife.
Starting point is 00:14:47 20 years later, I barbecued them pictures, them notes, man. That's just me. I have all my stuff. I had a barbecue to put them right on the grill, but get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Call us now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy.
Starting point is 00:15:05 We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Tyrone! Hello? Hey, Tyrone, get it off your chest. Hold on, Tyrone, are you black? This is Cam, this is not Tyrone. I'm about to say. Why'd you just call him Tyrone?
Starting point is 00:15:16 That's what it says on the list. It says Tyrone. My bad, Tyrone. You sounded like a white Tyrone. I was like, I never heard one of those. Well, get it off your chest. Yeah, this is Cam from Jacksonville, but man, I want to talk to Charlemagne, man. What's up, my brother?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Hey, bro, you can't go around telling everybody to shoot their shot, man. What happened? What'd I do? What'd I miss? Man, my wife, she works in a pharmacy. And he got this dude. He came up and he personally said that you told him to shoot his shot at her. Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I don't know what you're talking about, sir. Yeah, he said, basically, she's getting off work. He rolls up on her in his car, and then he's talking about some, he said, man, I'm a, he said, I got to shoot my shot. Charlemagne told me to shoot my shot so that I'd go. And then he tried to holler at my wife, but what the great part about it, he said he'd been watching her for the last six to eight months. A grown man watches a woman from afar for the last six to eight months. A grown man watches a woman from
Starting point is 00:16:06 afar for the last six to eight months and then tries to go up and holler at her. And uses me as a reference when I don't even know him. I don't know him to tell him to go shoot his shot. Why would I be telling him to shoot his shot at your wife? Because you're on the radio telling everybody to shoot their shot.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But did he know she was married though? Nah, he said he didn't know, but you know. Okay then, I'm sorry he did that, sir. But did he know she was married, though? No, he said he didn't know, but, you know, but... Okay, then. So you can't be mad at him. You should be happy you got a hot wife that people are still trying to get at. So when is your wife going on a date with him? Don't play with me.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I ain't mad at the point that he tried to holler at her. The point is, this crazy joker probably would have never said anything if he wouldn't have listened to Charlamagne telling everybody... Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Damn. All right, man. Have a good day.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I hope you don't run into him. I would hope that y'all would want our listeners to listen to us, too. Hello? Hi. Hey, what's up, mama? Hello. Nothing much. I just wanted to call in and tell y'all why I'm mad this morning.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Why are you mad, mama? Y'all. So, what would y'all do if somebody slapped your mama in your house? Like, what the heck? Who slapped your mama? Listen, she has a partner, right? We're grown. My mama has grown kids.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So, she decided that she wanted to live her best life. That's fine. She started dating this little female and they fell into a hard time. So, my fiance and I shout out to my baby Maurice I love you we you know we obviously that's my mom she needed me so we let them come stay with us y'all yesterday this girl came in and I heard them arguing but I was in my room usually I'm at work at this time I heard arguing. The next thing I heard was a slap.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And y'all, oh my goodness. All of the Jesus had to hold me back because it was on. I don't think Jesus could hold me back if somebody slapped my mom. I think I would react the way Wanda's husband reacted to Cat Williams by pulling that hammer on him allegedly, okay? Oh, I did. All her stuff is out the door. I told her she was going to be out today. She called
Starting point is 00:18:08 the police, called whoever. Oh, I did, and all of her stuff is out my house. You put your hands on my mama, you gotta go. Yeah, I might need some more physical. I might need some physical, man. You ain't just going to slap my mama. How is your mama? Because you say how old, so your mama sound a little older. Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:23 she's 50. She's almost 50. She still got life in her. She can fight back. Why y'all ain't jump her? Oh, we did. That's what I said. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Listen, she had a hot iron threatening somebody. Y'all know we went in. My sister, her boyfriend, myself, and my mom. We beat her down. The boyfriend, too? Well, don't say the boyfriend on air now. I would say the boyfriend. The boyfriend ain't had to jump in. Y'all had that handled.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Oh, no, no, no. If it's a big butch, I'm talking about bigger than precious, yeah, you need to use your man power for this one. I don't condone the man hitting her, but I condone y'all jumping her for slapping your mom. And I know people gonna sit here. He didn't hit her. He seduced her because he had to
Starting point is 00:19:05 lock her up. He held her while y'all hit her. Yes. Don't say that on air. You gonna get him locked up. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yes, it is. No, no, no, no. She had the hot iron waving it at us and he came to protect us. So he had to put her down because she's bigger than we are. That's better lingo. We be small, slim girls.
Starting point is 00:19:21 And she's a big girl. So he was the only one that was physically able to get her down. Gotcha. Yeah, so yes, he did. He put his hands on her for protection. There you go. Y'all should have beat her and called the police on her. We did.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Oh, man. Y'all handed it right then. There we go. Yes, we did. We beat her down and called the police. Instead of me going in this morning on my regular day, now I got to go to court and file paperwork to make sure legally,
Starting point is 00:19:49 you know, from the streets we handle it. Now I got to handle it from the law. Let me help you out a little bit. Don't say you beat her down when you go there, all right? Say you subdued her to the police came, okay? I'm telling you some good stuff. You subdued her and to the police came because she was very violent and kicking and punching and you didn't want your mama to get hurt again. You didn't beat her. You didn't punch her. You subdued her until the police came because she was very violent and kicking and punching
Starting point is 00:20:05 and you didn't want your mama to get hurt again. You didn't beat her. You didn't punch her. Well, she was the aggressive person, for sure. Yes, she was. Yes, she was, but I got the whole house going. Are you listening to me? They all going. You subdued her. Everybody had the same story. I respect it, baby.
Starting point is 00:20:21 You handed it the street way, then you handed it the white man way. Congratulations. Have a good day. Hey, I'm albino. I get to respect it, baby. You handed it the street way, then you handed it the white man way. Congratulations. Well, have a good day. Listen, hey, I'm albino. I get to handle it both ways. I'm albino. I love the Breakfast Club listeners, man. Thank you for calling, baby.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And for anybody out there that's saying we condoning violence, no, we condoning defending your mama if somebody slaps on your dumbass people. Nobody said nothing yet. Don't trust me. They are. Goodness gracious. All right. Get it off your chest. Don't trust me. They are. Goodness gracious. All right. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:20:46 800-585-1051. You got rumors on the way? Yes. Let's talk about the Emmys. They were last night. And we'll give you some of the highlights of what happened with the host, with the people sitting in the audience on the red carpet who won the awards, engagements, all of that. Did anybody black win other than Regina King?
Starting point is 00:21:02 We'll talk about it. Yeah. Your girl won. Yeah. But that was a creative enemy. That wasn't laughing. No. Anyway, we'll get into that when? We'll talk about it. Yeah, your girl won. Yeah, but that was a creative enemy. That wasn't laughing. Anyway, we'll get into that when we come back.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Hello. Let's get to the rumors. Let's go. Let's talk Emmys. Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The rumor report. Emmys. Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip.
Starting point is 00:21:26 The rumor report. Gossip. Gossip. With Angela Yee. It's the rumor report. The Breakfast Club. Well, as y'all know, the Emmys were on last night. Now, the big winners were HBO and Netflix.
Starting point is 00:21:36 They had 23 wins each. Wow. Yes, they tied with 23 wins each. Now, Michael Che hosted alongside Colin Jost from Saturday Night Live. And here is part of the opening monologue. Of course, there are so many incredible nominees here tonight. Incredible nominees. Black-ish is nominated.
Starting point is 00:21:53 That's right. Black-ish is also how I've been asked to behave tonight. Speaking of sad, The Handmaid's Tale is nominated. That's right. Yes. That's right. Yes. The best drama. I don't know if you've seen it, but The Handmaid's Tale takes place in an imaginary future where an entire group of people are violently forced to work and make babies against their will.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It's what black people call history. It's roots for white women. That's what it is. Of course. Dropping the clues, Bones, for Colin and Michael. Doing what they do best, making people uncomfortable. All right. Now, in addition to that, here was a first.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Glenn Weiss, he won an Emmy for directing the Oscars, actually proposed to his girlfriend while accepting his award on stage. Mom always believed in finding the sunshine in things, and she adored my girlfriend, Jan. Jan, you are the sunshine in my life. And Mom was right. Don't ever let go of your sunshine. You wonder why I don't like to callored my girlfriend, Jan. Jan, you are the sunshine in my life. And mom was right. Don't ever let go of your sunshine. You wonder why I don't like to call you my girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Because I want to call you my wife. Nice. I want to put this ring that my mom wore on your finger in front of all these people and in front of my mom and your parents. Nice. Wrap it up, buddy. Why are you being so evil, Charlamagne?
Starting point is 00:23:04 Wrap it up. You know why? Because theyater. Why are you being so evil, Charlamagne? Wrap it up. You know why? Because they be having people on that stage giving nice prolific speeches and they be wrapping them up. So wrap them up. This ain't your personal time.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Wrap it up, buddy. What is wrong with you? Wrap it up. This man proposed. You must clearly have never seen any people be on stage like really talking about real issues
Starting point is 00:23:19 and the music start playing. Nope. He's talking about love. Keep that same energy. I got nothing to do with anybody else. That's dope. Keep that same energy. Congratulations. nothing to do with anybody else. That's dope. Keep that same energy.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Congratulations to that. That's awesome. That's a great story right there. Now, Michael Che also did the Reparation Emmys, and that is for black actors who deserved it and didn't get acknowledged all these past years, like Kadeem Hardison from A Different World, to Tina Arnold from Everybody Hates Chris, Jimmy Walker from Good Times, other people as well. He gave Jaleel White and The Wire reparations Emmys as well.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Check it out. Man, Jaleel, Steve Urkel was the OG black man. I mean, if it wasn't for you, there'd be no Donny Grumman. There'd be no Kanye West. There'd be no Obama. Did I do that? Yeah, man. You did that.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Dude, you know nobody from The Wire won an Emmy? I know, and Bryan Cranston won like six for Breaking Bad. If Bryan Cranston got six Emmys, you just almost should have like ten Emmys. Anybody from the wire is better than Bryan Cranston. You know he only won because he's white. Absolutely. Only reason he won. If he was black, he'd probably be bagging groceries at Trader Joe's somewhere.
Starting point is 00:24:16 That's crazy the wire never won an Emmy. Like a show that people now say is one of the best shows of all time never won an Emmy. All right, now in addition, let's take it to the red carpet. Our girl, Jennifer Lewis, was out there, and she was wearing Nike. And here is her reasoning. I am wearing Nike to applaud them for supporting Colin Kaepernick. So when did you decide to do this? I was actually swimming the other day.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And I was like, what can I do? What can I do that's meaningful? I'll wear Nike to say thank you for leading the resistance. We need more corporate America to stand up also. These are not dark times. These are awakening times. And we all have to wake up. Dropping a clue to Jennifer Lewis.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I love Jennifer Lewis. But Nike is not a symbol of black excellence, nor should it be some symbol of black pride and black power. They're a corporation that's interested in one thing and one thing only, and that's money.
Starting point is 00:25:12 They sponsor Colin Kaepernick, but they also sponsor the NFL, so they double different. And Colin doesn't have any equity in Nike. Okay, I wear Nike for the same old reasons I always wore Nike.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And when Colin comes out with his apparel line, I'll support that, but I'm not about to act like Nike is the African medallion or the Malcolm X hat. No, she wanted to show support. She wore to show her support. And that was more of a statement for Colin Kaepernick and what he has going on.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Well, wear a Colin Kaepernick t-shirt. I mean, everybody's wearing different brands. That's the brand she chose to wear that night. Now, in addition to that, Regina King won for lead actress in a limited series or movie for seven seconds. And she didn't even expect this to happen. I didn't have nothing to say because I wasn't really expecting this, but I am so grateful, Television Academy. Y'all, my friends, my peers, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Fox 21, Netflix, Venus, sued, oh my God. Thank you for creating an opportunity to tell a story and hold a mirror up to what's going on today. I am just floored. This is amazing. I want to curse right now. Dropping a clue. Yes. And listen, we'll get more into the Emmys as we do the rumor report later on.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But Tiffany Haddish was on out there and her and Cat Williams were pictured together. We'll talk more about that later and we'll talk about Donald Glover as well. I just want to say, you know, Nike, they're not leading the resistance. They're just making money. Leading the resistance would be Nike saying, no, we aren't going to be sponsors of the NFL until they stop punishing players like Colin for doing the right thing.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But the fact that they support Colin, I think it's dope. A lot of people wouldn't sign him and walked away from him. But they're also sponsoring the same people that are blackballing Colin. Yeah, but there's still other black NFL players, too. That's what I'm saying. So Nike leading the resistance would be them saying we're not going to be sponsors of the NFL until they stop punishing players like Colin
Starting point is 00:26:56 for doing the right thing. It's still about to check, though, bro. Like, let's be honest. They're still about to check about the fact that they're supporting Colin when nobody else is dope as well But anyway If you want to go to Powerhouse NYC, alright
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Starting point is 00:27:28 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. And welcome to the official Basketball Wives reunion show, the one cast member who did not show up. Jennifer Williams is here with us.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Hi, guys. Now, how come you weren't on the reunion last night? I was not there because, you know what? I just felt like this entire season, I was completely set up. And, you know, after having a table being thrown at me, I just didn't feel like I needed to be there. Did the table hit you? No, it didn't hit me.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It hit a security. Oh, man. And he was all bloody. Wow. So I felt like I needed to make a statement. Was he thrown off the show, the girl that threw the table? Malaysia. Not to my knowledge. Really? Well, she was at the reunion. She was there?
Starting point is 00:28:15 And she did say that she had no intention of getting physical with you. So you didn't feel safe. They said you sent an email through your lawyer saying that you did not feel like it was a safe place for you to be because you did feel like the whole season you were set up. I did. And I just want to clarify something because they made it seem like I sent the email last minute.
Starting point is 00:28:35 The reunion was being filmed on a Sunday, and my attorney sent the letter on Friday. So it was not a last minute thing. They knew that I wasn't coming. But you felt more comfortable there was no tables there? No, you know, honestly, they really tried to get me to go, which was crazy
Starting point is 00:28:52 because when they found out I wasn't coming, the producers were waiting outside of my house for hours for me to come outside. And they caught me walking my dog. Wow. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:29:01 listen, we hired two extra security. What can we do to make you feel comfortable? And it was like at that point it was too late because this is the thing. After the table got thrown at me in Amsterdam, nobody reached out to me to see how I was, if I was okay. I was like, listen, get me a flight out of here. I was literally in Amsterdam for 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:29:20 So now that you have probably built this whole reunion. Bring it back a little bit because some people might not have seen Basketball Wives. Explain to people what happened in Amsterdam. I definitely didn't see it. I just saw the trailer. They cut it. That's why I asked if you got hit. Even before we get to Amsterdam, let's talk about what happened this season. Because that all led up to what happened in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So you came back to Basketball Wives this season. How did you end up coming back for the show? So I came back to Basketball Wives actually at the end of last season. I came back. I had a conversation with Shawnee. She thought it was a good idea that Evelyn and I
Starting point is 00:29:53 sit down and talk. It had been five years since we spoke. I was like, okay, you know what? A lot has happened in my life. A lot has happened in her life. I'm just ready to move on. We had the conversation last season. Everything was fine.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And honestly, I thought the show was going in a different direction. So I was comfortable with coming back. You know, when I left the show. What direction you thought
Starting point is 00:30:17 was going to be positive? Somewhat. I mean, last season, Shawnee was doing women's empowerment. You were cool with Tammy. You and Tammy were friends. And all y'all grown as f***
Starting point is 00:30:26 You and Evelyn made up Right Right So I'm like okay This is cool You know I think it's great That we can show viewers A positive image
Starting point is 00:30:33 I don't think women Always have to be arguing And fighting And I felt like the show Was going in that direction And so it took 20 steps back this season Alright so you get back
Starting point is 00:30:44 On the show Now you and Tammy had been cool with each other before this new season started. But then you guys started having some fallings out and she said that you were a liar. So how did all that happen?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Well, Tammy and I, first of all, when I left Basketball Wives season four, I did not speak to those girls until I had seen Tammy and Shawnee at an event that Malaysia was doing
Starting point is 00:31:06 that they were actually filming probably like two and a half years ago now. So Tammy and I ended up like getting cool, just kind of, you know, like talking, catching up. Tammy was revealing to me a lot of things that Evelyn allegedly was doing. And I was like, wow, it's like been so long. Like, why is this still happening? And Tammy and Evelyn still weren't getting along at this point. Tammy and Evelyn were not getting along. They never really have since. It's always kind of been this, I don't know
Starting point is 00:31:33 what this very weird energy between those two where they make up and then they fight again. So I feel like Tammy felt a way because I let the whole shit with Evelyn go. And I think she was upset about that because that was not the plan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So you think there was a plan in place for when you came back to Basketball Wives? Well, when I first came back, you know, because Tammy was telling me all this shit. She was like, listen, you know, we need to take her down. And at the time, I was down. Talking about Evelyn. Yes. At the time, I was down with it because of all the things that I was hearing that she allegedly was doing. I thought Evelyn was your friend, though.
Starting point is 00:32:12 No, at this time, we weren't speaking. They hadn't spoken in five years, she said. Right. So what kind of things was she saying that Evelyn was saying about you? Allegedly. Allegedly. So when I got hit on Basketball Wives, she was saying that Evelyn has set that up, which whatever. I was kind of over that. But honestly, the one thing that I was really upset about was a situation where she allegedly was trying to sell a story to the blogs with me and another celebrity.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Who was it? I don't want to say. Like a dating guru? But literally only like four people knew. So I knew she couldn't have been lying. Oh, you knew it was her. And the problem is that Tammy had hooked up with Evelyn's old manager and she was getting a lot of information from her.
Starting point is 00:32:56 So there's a lot of messiness going on behind the scenes. I thought it was something about you talking about Evelyn's daughter. We're going to get to that next. It's a progression. Right. So then even before that happened, I guess you guys all were talking and they were saying
Starting point is 00:33:09 that you had said some really negative things about Evelyn and that got brought up. Now let's discuss that because you said that you and Evelyn had discussed the fact
Starting point is 00:33:18 that you guys both said negative things about each other. So what were some of those things that you can say, yes, I did say that? To be honest, I can't remember everything that was said
Starting point is 00:33:27 because we're talking about something that was like five years ago, okay? And when women fall out, yeah, they talk s***. One of the things that did come up was there was a rumor going around and I heard this from years ago that Evelyn had slept with Shawnee's ex.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Shaq. With Shaq. Yes. Shaquille O'Neal. And so Tammy and I had this conversation. Hold on. That's why Shaq would never come up here, by the way. That's the reason why Shaq.
Starting point is 00:33:51 It's important to name names in situations like that. Absolutely. That could have been Ocho Cinco. That could have been the baseball player. You know what I mean? It got to be. Yeah. So we're not confused.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Okay. So Shaq. Yes. Allegedly. So Tammy and I did have this conversation. Now, do I know it to be true? No. Like, I don't know, but I have do I know it to be true? No.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Like, I don't know, but I have. You think it was a rumor. Right. But here's the problem. I felt like on the show, they act like I started this rumor. And I'm like, first of all, no, I did not start the rumor. I heard this years ago. Somebody asked me. So when Tammy circled back, was telling me all these things, it was kind of like, oh, did you hear this?
Starting point is 00:34:22 Did you hear that? And that's how the whole conversation came about. Why is y'all talking about 20-year-old rumors, though? They're just gossiping. Yeah. Jesus Christ. People bring up old stuff all the time. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And so basically, we talked about that a whole year ago. So Tammy decided to bring this back up during the season. And then, you know, everything. And that turned into a really big deal because it seemed like Shawnee had never heard this rumor before. It was her first time hearing it. Do you think that was authentic? What did Evelyn say? How did she respond to the rumor?
Starting point is 00:34:50 I mean, she was like, you know, it's not true. So this wasn't like Evelyn shared with you, you know, at Super Shack. It was just a rumor you heard. No, it was just a rumor I heard. And that was it. I had a conversation about it. There was no facts, no receipts. We let it go.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And so Tammy decided to bring it up. But you know what? I had a scene with Tammy in the beginning of the season. And she made a comment which didn't play. And now that I look back on it, I see where she was going with it. Because she was like, oh, I saw you went to Evelyn's birthday. And I was like, yeah, you know, I did, whatever. And she was like, oh, so did you guys talk about everything that you said about one another?
Starting point is 00:35:28 And I kind of was like, no, we just decided to let it go. So I felt like she has something brewing now that I think back on it. And she really had an issue with that. You don't think y'all are too old for this? I do. Oh, okay. I do. And this is exactly why I didn't go to the reunion.
Starting point is 00:35:46 All right, we have more with Basketball Wives. So Jennifer Williams, when we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Everybody, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Basketball Wives. So Jennifer Williams is in the building. Yee.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So now what about this latest thing that happened on the episode where Malaysia says that you were talking negatively about Evelyn's daughter and basically they bleeped out a lot of what was said. So I don't even know exactly what it was that they said that you said about her daughter, but basically that she was paying all the bills in the household while Evelyn was running around.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And I guess it probably was something sexual that you were saying about her daughter. Evelyn got a baby daddy by a multimillionaire. That baseball player made some money, though. I don't think she ever heard of it. But this was at a time when Evelyn supposedly had a roommate. And she said it on the show. She had a roommate, and the roommate is the one that was saying this. So this was not the time that she was with Paul.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Would you like some more rum before you answer this question? No, no. Tell her I think she's having a little rum. They said allegedly you called the daughter a hoe or something like that. That would lead to lack of parenting. No, no. She's having a little rum. They said allegedly you called the daughter a hoe or something like that. It was due to lack of parenting. First of all, I mean, this was the first time that I was hearing this, okay? When I left that show, when I left the reunion, I did not talk to those girls, okay?
Starting point is 00:37:02 So Shawnee was trying to say, oh, Jennifer said this, I don't know, what, five years ago or whenever we weren't speaking. One, I would never say that about her daughter. So Shawnee said you said that? Yes. And this is her, Evelyn said to Shawnice, who you've known since she was six. I've known her since she was six. I've never even seen Shawnice with a credit card, to be honest with you. So, one, that's something that I would never say. And my thing is this, Shawnice,
Starting point is 00:37:20 first of all, she starts a lot of bulls**t behind the scenes. Shawnice O'Neal? But, yes. Okay, you're not coming back to the show, clearly. Whatever. I mean, I'm just, like, I came up here to keep it real. There you go. You know what I'm saying? So, my thing is, if I allegedly said this five years ago, and this is your girl,
Starting point is 00:37:39 why, one, are you just now bringing it up? Two, why were you advocating for us to sit down and have a conversation last season? But now this season is something totally different. So you're saying Shawnee made that up? That she lied. It didn't come from me. Basketball-wise, dropping ratings or something? Because it seemed like it was a little bit more ratchet this season.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Like they trying to get that controversy to bring it up. To be honest with you, I don't know the answer to that. But I do know that the ratings have been through the roof this season, which means that's an extra check for Shawnee O'Neal. So to clear it up, you did not say anything negative about Evelyn's daughter at all? No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Did not call her a hoe? Did not say lack of parenting? Nothing? None of that. No receipts pulled later, right? No. So Shawnee O'Neal in Malaysia, you're saying or telling fibs or lying about that? I feel like I was set up. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:28 So, Evelyn and Shawnee, some lying ass women is what you're saying? Listen, I don't know if somebody might have told them I said that, but they did not hear that s*** from me. So, you're just realizing Shawnee and Evelyn be lying? Is this dawdling you? I wouldn't say Evelyn because she was kind of like an innocent bystander and s***. But what I'm saying is that Shawnee starts a lot of things behind the scenes. It's good for a show. Well, on the reunion, they did ask Shawnee about some things that Tammy might have said.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And I don't know. Did you watch the reunion since you weren't there? I did. I watched some of it. What did you think of it? You know, here's the thing. It's really interesting that Shawnee has selective memory because she couldn't seem to remember if Tammy had said those things,
Starting point is 00:39:10 which had happened, I don't know. Some things about Evelyn. Some things about Evelyn, some things that Tammy, I guess, had told Evelyn and Shawnee. And Shawnee was like, I don't know, because she never wants to be in the middle of everything. Well, you said earlier you couldn't remember some things from some years ago, too, though. I'm not saying I remember exactly what I said, but there are certain conversations that you're going to remember specific things.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Gotcha. So you did talk about Evelyn's daughter. No, I'm not saying about her daughter. I'm saying when Evelyn and I fell out, we probably talked about each other. I don't remember exactly what I said. You know what I mean? But, yeah, when you fall out with somebody,
Starting point is 00:39:46 yeah. So, now that conversation, I know you guys didn't watch the reunion in here, but the conversation between Tammy and Evelyn
Starting point is 00:39:54 got a little brutal. I did feel they were going at each other. They talking about reproductive situations and miscarriages. Wow. Like all kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:40:04 No, it was pretty bad. What did you think when you saw that? We missed Amsterdam. I'm waiting of things. No, it was pretty bad. What did you think when you saw that? Wait, Yee, we missed Amsterdam. I'm waiting for Amsterdam. Like what happened
Starting point is 00:40:09 in Amsterdam, Yee? Oh. I mean, this is basically what happened is that they said that Jennifer spoke about Evelyn's daughter. And who threw a chair at you? And that happened in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Malaysia threw a table. Malaysia threw a table. She threw a table at you. Why? I mean, we were like arguing and I don't know, this shit came out of nowhere. And I'm thinking to myself, this bitch looks like a linebacker.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And I'm trying to figure out like, am I going to have to fight this big bitch? Like, this is crazy. She's young though, right? She's not that young. I guess she's in her late 20s? No, she's in her 30s. And you know, the interesting thing to me is that Malaysia is, she basically is on camera having a conversation with her son about police brutality and trying to teach her son about, you know, what goes on in the community. She had Officer Norman on the show, too.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yes. And so here it is, like, you're trying to show your son certain things. And yet, and still, you go and you throw a table. Well, sometimes you got to show your children on sight. And what the hell on sight mean? You know what I'm saying? People out here running their mouth. I might have to press them.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Last time we were up here, we told you you better learn karate. Like, you better learn how to protect yourself a little better. You getting tables. I know. I know. I'm good, though. Trust me. I thought you had got good with a blade, because didn't you slap somebody's tires earlier this year?
Starting point is 00:41:20 That was bullshit. That wasn't true? No. Your ex boo-boo? No. I went, listen, I don't even know how to put bulls**t. That wasn't true? No. Your ex boo-boo? No. I went, listen, I don't even know how to put air in my tire.
Starting point is 00:41:29 TMZ. Okay. Are there things that you regret that happened this season as far as you're concerned or that happened in general that got brought up this season?
Starting point is 00:41:36 I like to say that I don't live with regrets because I just try and learn a lesson from whatever it is. I wish I wouldn't have had certain conversations with Tammy because I feel like she definitely had bad intentions, but everything is so petty and dumb. And I just feel like I've been through so much in my life the past three years that
Starting point is 00:42:02 I can't really focus on that. Jennifer's mother did pass away. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, that was really sad. And you also did go through a really bad public breakup and ended up having to go to court and everything. Was that James Tim Norman? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:16 The guy who tires, they say you slashed? Yes, I was in court for six months dealing with that. He was abusive, right? I would say he's never put his hands on me, but I know that he has done that to other women. And, you know, when we were in court, he ended up saying his tires were never slashed. It went from his tires being not slashed to punctured
Starting point is 00:42:39 to just being flat and that he used fix-a-flat to fix his tires. Why were y'all in court if y'all not married or y'all weren't married? Restraining order. Restraining order. So, okay, so now...
Starting point is 00:42:50 You don't strike me as that type, though, to slash tires. No. Yeah, I can't see that either. You don't seem like the confrontational type to me. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:42:56 That's very non-confrontational when no one's around and you slash their tires. No, you know, and the crazy part is that this man moved across the street from me
Starting point is 00:43:03 and I had no idea. What? Yes. With a girl. He had a new girlfriend, right? Yes. Wow. And that's allegedly where I slashed the tires.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I mean, literally. I mean, it's crazy. Did you get the restraining order because he was right across the street from you? No, I actually got the restraining order because he was going around saying all this like crazy shit. So it was kind of like, okay, he gets a restraining order against me because of the tire situation. So it was like, okay, now I have to play defense. And I was like, this dude is really crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So he was stalking you, you believe? Absolutely. So Evelyn was leaking these stories through the blogs? No. Oh. All right, we have more with Basketball Wives. So Jennifer Williams, when we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Good morning. E-J-N-V, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Basketball Wives. So JenniferJ., Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God, we are the Breakfast Club. Basketball wives saw Jennifer Williams is in the building. Yee. Can you and Evelyn, can your relationship be repaired? Because that's the most longstanding one that you've had. You guys have been friends for how long?
Starting point is 00:43:55 I think we met in 2000. All right, so you guys have been friends for 18 years. Is this a situation where you want... Well, we didn't speak for five years. Off and on. Right. But, I mean, she was in your wedding. Yeah, along with you. Yeah, I was there too.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I was in the wedding also. So, is there any way you feel like that can be repaired and would you want that? I don't want drama with anybody. I feel like this show has ripped our friendship apart more than once. And I don't know if it ever could get back
Starting point is 00:44:23 to what it was, but my hope is like one day we can, you know, definitely be cordial. What is cordial? Not throwing tables at each other? Well, she didn't throw a table at me. I think we both really love each other and there's a lot of things that have transpired, but I really feel like the girls on the show
Starting point is 00:44:42 are very jealous of our friendship. Why though? Why can't two women be friends? I don't know. What about Kristen? Kristen and you, she was kind of the last one standing, had a conversation with you. Where do you guys stand now? I think Kristen is actually like a really cool girl.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And I felt like she was a good fit for Basketball Wives. But yeah, I don't have any issues with her. And we're still very cool. And I text her mom and her mom calls me and so we have a good relationship. What about Shanice? Because that is Evelyn's daughter. Did she have any reaction to all of this? Obviously, she's an adult now, so... I know. You know, I just feel awful that they kind of keep throwing her daughter in it.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And, you know, anyone that knows Evelyn knows that's kind of, that's a trigger. You know, and I feel like that's what Shawnee was going for because I felt like, I don't know if she was upset over the whole, like, Shaq rumor, but I felt like she was determined to bring me down. So I haven't, I don't know what Shawnee's reaction has been. I just feel bad that she has been an innocent bystander the past two seasons and has got thrown in something that she has nothing to do with this show. If they ask you to come back for the next season.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Oh, God. Keep in mind, you already called Malaysia a linebacker. So she's going to want that fade. And you called Shawnee a liar. I mean, let's be clear. Malaysia and Shawnee had a period of time where they didn't get along at all and Malaysia's back on the show. There's always been issues between people, but somehow it's still.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Every season, I feel like somebody has to take the fall. You know, it's like they gang up on somebody every season. It was my turn. I honestly would like to move forward in my life. I still am under contract, so I don't know what's going to happen. I do know that allegedly the production company got fired. And so I don't know what's going to happen. I do know that allegedly the production company got fired. And so I don't know what's going to happen with the show, but I just want to move forward.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Have you spoke to Malaysia? No. I heard she apologized for throwing the table at you. Did she? I saw that on Basa. Well, she didn't apologize to me directly. I think she apologized for throwing a table at all, period. Oh, but not directly at your head.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Not at your head, though. I guess. I didn't hear about it. But, no, I have not spoken to her. Jennifer, thank you for coming through, and happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you for letting me have my reunion here.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You know what? Because I wanted to come here, and I knew that I could tell my true story, and it would not be edited. So, thank you guys for that platform. Have you gotten everything out? Is everything fine? Who's that guy that you were with that's the new boo with the,
Starting point is 00:47:10 you had a picture and you had his arm in it and I'm like, who is this guy? That's right, yeah, it's your birthday. Who are you with tonight? What boo are you with tonight? She's about to catch a flight. I see her bags out there. I am about to catch a flight.
Starting point is 00:47:21 So I'm going to Atlanta. Oh, you're boozing Atlanta? Yes. Oh. Oh. Y're boozing Atlanta? Yes. Oh. Oh. Y'all flying somewhere exotic after that? No, she might just be going to see her boo. No, I'm just going to see him.
Starting point is 00:47:32 What does he do? Damn, is he? She's curious. He does real estate. Oh, you got you somebody just normal. He is not in the business. There you go. Yeah, he's not in the business.
Starting point is 00:47:42 He doing good? He's a boss. Oh, okay. Okay. That's what you need. If I see you, you in the Chanel store, you go. Yeah, he's not in the business. He doing good? He's a boss. Okay. Okay. That's what you need. If I see you, you in the Chanel store, I just want to meet y'all. He's definitely a boss. He's a really good guy.
Starting point is 00:47:53 He's black or white? He's black. Does he watch Basketball Wives? No, he does not. Did he know who you were? He did not know who I was. And he is not a fan of reality shows. And he's like, you know.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Is he under 50? He is. So he don't want you on reality TV, basically, is what you're saying. He does not. So won't you get off reality TV? I mean, that's what, yeah. I told him that's not my desire. But he got to commit to you too first, though.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Right. We'll see what happens. Has he been married before? He has. Is his ankles at you? You just what? What is he doing for you for your birthday? Do you know yet?
Starting point is 00:48:28 I don't, I have no idea. Does he have kids? He does. Does his kids like you? I haven't met them yet. Oh, his kids your age? No. Damn.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I said he's under 50, G. Oh, okay. No, but he keeps a smile on my face, so that's really what's important right now. So we'll see what happens. Have you spoken to Shani at all, though? Like, have you expressed these frustrations to Shani? Does she know it will just be her first time hearing about this on The Breakfast Club?
Starting point is 00:48:54 No, I have not. I have not spoke to any of those girls. Except Kristen. Yes, except Kristen. Well, what do you think that was edited out? Are there things that we didn't see that you wish we would have gotten a chance to see? Well, I wish you could see how much bullshit happens behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:49:07 You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, they try and make it seem like, oh, Jennifer's messy, Jennifer starts this. And you know, there's one thing I do want to clarify.
Starting point is 00:49:15 The whole rumor about Cece and her, like, picking up young guys at the gym. Who is Cece? She's on the show as well. You don't want to know. She's a new girl.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Okay. Just for clarification because I don't know if they try to make it seem like I started this rumor. I did make a joke about what was she doing at the spa giving happy endings, but that entire scenario and rumor. No, don't just slide back there. I can't
Starting point is 00:49:40 believe you, Jennifer. I did make a joke. Of giving hand s*** to random men. I did make a joke. Oh my God. However, this whole rumor started because both Evelyn and I heard that from Shawnee. But, because she's an executive producer, her hands are always going to come out clean. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Well, if she was in that gym, she wouldn't have been clean. Now that she's giving happy endings. If she was in that gym, it wouldn't have been clean. Well, thank you, Jennifer. You enjoy your birthday. Thank you. I didn't know Shani was this foul.
Starting point is 00:50:07 That's wild. I mean, I'm not saying she's Shani. I don't know if you're fouling that. I'm just saying. Allegedly. The way Jennifer
Starting point is 00:50:11 is describing you, I didn't know you were this foul. Let me tell you, there are receipts. Angela has seen receipts. Uh-oh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:16 You have ye? So. I have some text messages. I just feel like all of y'all too grown for that. Like, you too grown to be stirring up drama between people.
Starting point is 00:50:25 But you know what drama sells. Does everybody want to watch a show where everybody's getting along and being kumbaya? No. Clearly not. And she on VH1, so she got to compete with Mona Scott. Mona Scott got her show turned up. Exactly. So she wants to be Mona Scott is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I don't know that, but obviously you want good ratings. If you're an executive producer, you want your show to be, you know. Well, what's next for Jennifer? Honestly, I really want to get into producing. And I want to produce content and things that are close to my heart. Okay, so no Ratchet TV, you're saying? No. Ain't nobody watching it.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Excuse me. You know that, Jen. I want to do scripted, though. Oh, got you. Yeah. You know that, Jen. I wanted to script it, though. Oh, got you. Yeah, yeah, that's different. Yeah. Well, enjoy your birthday. Have fun.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Thank you. I will. Thank you for coming by. Happy birthday. Thank you, guys. It's The Breakfast Club. It's Jennifer Williams. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:51:22 E-J-M-V-A-N-G-E-L-L-E-E. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. You guys have some quotables behind the scenes. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Kanye. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee. The rumor has it. On The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:51:37 So listen up. So Kanye West was with Chance the Rapper in Chicago. And it's an event that he does called the Open, a monthly open mic event, which is an opportunity for students to perform and learn from artists. And Kanye was there, and he made this announcement. Me and Chance working on a new album.
Starting point is 00:51:58 It's called Good Ass Job. Wasn't that originally supposed to be Kanye's album after, because it was the, what was it, late registration, college dropout, late registration, graduation, then it's supposed to be Kanye's album? Because it was the late registration college dropout, late registration graduation, then supposed to be good ass job. You know more than all of us. I interviewed Kanye about 10 years ago on Wendy Williams show and that's what he said his series was going to be.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Well, guess who's coming now? Him and Chance the rapper. Now he also made this announcement about Chicago. So the first thing on my mind that I have to tell you is I got to let y'all know that I've moved back to Chicago. I'm never leaving again. He's never leaving again.
Starting point is 00:52:32 I don't know about that one. Well, maybe he'll keep that house that he has in Chicago. He'll go back and forth. He's been there for the past month or so. And he has a house there. That's what he needs, though. You would want him to be back to his roots, right?
Starting point is 00:52:41 Back and forth, though. Absolutely. His property, his home, his business. Clearly he moves his goddamn mind in Calabasas, right? Running around with MAGA hats and all of that. So, yes, take your ass back home. And people in Chicago are saying that he never comes there and they don't see him and he doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:52:56 You can lose yourself when you, you know, disconnect from your roots. So why not? Well, let's find ourselves. Now Kanye West is also supposed to appear on Saturday Night Live season 44's premiere and that's going to premiere on September 29th. So Adam
Starting point is 00:53:10 Driver is going to be hosting from Black Klansman and Kanye is going to be performing. Are you excited for that? Also people are saying there might be a Yeezus 2 album after Kanye posted on his social media the artwork from the Yeezus cover. So now everybody's excited saying Yeezus 2 is on the way,
Starting point is 00:53:26 even though there's no real confirmation. All right, Cat Williams, what is going on? So Wanda went on her show, The Frank and Wanda Show, and talked about what happened after Cat Williams came up there and was very insulting toward her. And then allegedly her husband pulled a gun on him outside of a comedy club. Well, here's what she says happened.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Your hair is kind of... That is the roast. Your hair is 19 inches long and I have no perm. Wrong clip. Stop it, drum. Oops. Oh, that's not a perm.
Starting point is 00:54:00 You can stop the clip, drum. All right, so that was the... Yeah, that was the original roast. But here's what she says happened with Cat Williams. I saw Cat Williams and his bodyguard walking up towards the comedy club. And so he saw me, and he made a beeline to where I was, came over, and was like, I told you effing with me going to make you go viral. And that's when my husband said, man, find something else to do, dog.
Starting point is 00:54:23 He was like, I'll jump on you. And then it, you know, so the police was there. So all the rumors that are out there, you know, I just, I can't move forward. Yeah, we can't address anymore. So that makes sense because the original story yesterday made it seem like he just pulled the gun on Kat because of the roast. Her husband is that big dude? Yes. Lamar Sellers.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Kat, look, he got out of, he looked like he had a squash, Kat. Sheesh. Yeah, they're saying there was a verbal altercation with Cat Williams according to an off-duty police officer who was working security. He says Cat told him that he ran to a grocery store next door after Lamar pulled a gun on him and pointed it in his face. Now cops said they talked to Lamar
Starting point is 00:54:57 as he admitted he had a gun but denied ever pulling it out on Cat Williams. That's what you're supposed to do. If that's a problem with your wife, you're supposed to send it for your wife. I mean, if you're standing there on the sidewalk and, you know, you're not tripping off the roast or whatever, but then the guy comes back up and says, I told you I was going to go viral
Starting point is 00:55:12 or whatever, and you tell him to go find something to do, and then he's like, I'll whip your ass. Of course. That's absolutely wrong. You know, ego. Yeah, it's going to happen. My daddy would have did it. I'd do it.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Hey, absolutely. All right, now let's move on and talk about Carrie Underwood. She was on CBS Sunday morning, and she talks about suffering because she had three miscarriages in the past two years. That has to be hard. Here's what she had to say. 2017 just wasn't how I imagined it. I'd kind of planned that 2017 was, you know, going to be the year that I work on new music
Starting point is 00:55:44 and I have a baby. We got pregnant early 2017 and it didn't work out. Got pregnant again in the spring and it didn't work out. Got pregnant again early 2018, didn't work out. So at that point, it was just kind of like, okay, like, what's the deal? Well, fortunately, she is expecting her second child so it did finally uh work out a lot of women uh suffer miscarriages and and you don't really hear about it because nobody talks about it but a lot of women go through it there's more
Starting point is 00:56:17 miscarriages i believe than actually women having babies that so many women go through that i think women need to talk about it more because there feel empty. They feel lonely when it happens. They feel like there's nobody to talk to. So I know it's a tough time. A lot of women actually have miscarriages and don't even know they were pregnant in the first place, too, because it can happen that early.
Starting point is 00:56:34 So you don't even know. All right, Roseanne Barr, let's talk about her character on The Conners. How is it that she is not going to be on the show? How will she die? Well, here's what she had to say on Brandon Strockoka's walk away. Oh, they killed her.
Starting point is 00:56:47 They had her die of an opioid overdose. So it wasn't enough to just do what they did to me. They had to so cruelly insult the people who love that family and that show. There's nothing I can do about it. It's done. I did what I had to do to save my own life, and I did it.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Well, I said months ago they should kill her off the show. I wanted them to kill her off the show, but I wanted the Muslim neighbors to attempt to save her. And then, you know, she would go to her deathbed realizing Muslims aren't all bad like she thought. But the opioid death is good, too. I'm actually going to be on Dr. Oz today. Dr. Oz is interviewing Roseanne Barr.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And then after he interviews Roseanne Barr, it's a panel. Oh, did you talk to her too? We discussed the interview. Nah, he pre-taped the interview with Roseanne. So you're going to discuss Roseanne's interview? Yes, with Dr. Oz. Okay. Yeah, today. Alright, that should be interesting. Alright, well I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Thank you, Miss Yee. Charlamagne! Yes. Who you giving that down? Catoons. Listen, 4 After the Hour, man, is a prime example of why I don't try to hook up any of my homegirls with any guys that I know. When they ask me to do it, I say, nope, I fall back. All right? We'll talk about it 4 After the Hour. All right. We'll get into that when we come back.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day, I'm Charlemagne. I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is a little bit of a mixed question. So like a donkey, he hung. Donkey of the Day. The Breakfast Club, bitches.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Now, I've been called a lot in my 23 years, but Donkey of the Day is a new one. Yes, Donkey of the Day for Tuesday, September 18th goes to a 53-year-old man named Kenna Flea. Now, I'm not going to lie to you. I feel sorry for all my single homegirls. And Lord knows I have a lot of them. And they be asking me to hook them up with people. And I always say no because I don't want to be responsible for none of these trifling-ass fellas out here. Nope.
Starting point is 00:58:37 No, sir, not me. I'll pray for you and pray God brings you the man of your dreams. But if I hook you up with the man of your nightmares, I will not be held responsible. And when I hear stories like Kenneth Lee, it reminds me of why I do not throw a cyst when it comes to finding my homegirls a man. Now, Kenneth is 53, 53 years old. Lord have mercy. Okay, boy, y'all gonna be single forever because F boys eventually become grown ass F boys
Starting point is 00:59:00 and Kenneth Lee is a prime example. Now, let me give you the story. A Oklahoma City woman gave her phone number to a man she met on Wednesday. And within hours, he was texting her death threats. How did we get to the death threats? Now, imagine me, hook Kenneth up with one of my homegirls. She gives him the number. And then within hours, he's sending death threats. Now, wait, it gets worse. Police said that Kenneth approached the woman outside the Walgreens
Starting point is 00:59:25 where the woman's car had broken down. Kenneth gave the woman $20 and got her phone number so they could swap text messages. Kenneth jumped all the way out the window with his thirst and requested that she send him pictures of herself naked. Mind you, this is within hours. Hours. That's why you keep him score. He got the number, and within hours, he was texting her death threats and asking her for nudes.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Do you see why I don't hook my homegirls up with people? Kenneth asked for the nudes, and the woman didn't respond. And that's when the death threats came into play. I told you not to play with me. And he put the number two. When somebody puts the number two, instead of typing out T-O-R-T-O-O, they about that action, boss. And Kenneth then sent a woman a text saying, fixing to get blew up.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Let me explain something to y'all. When somebody tells you they fixing to do something, oh, it's happening. Okay, you can write it down, tweet it, email it to yourself, save it in drafts. If someone tells you they fixing to do something, it's happening. Okay, when someone spells fixing, F-I-X-apostrophe-N with another number two,
Starting point is 01:00:26 if a person tells you they fixing to do something, trust me, they about to do it. Okay, when a person tells you they fixing to leave, they about to go. When they tell you they fixing to cook, they hungry and they will eat. When they tell you they fixing to do any act of violence to you, you better believe you are in danger. So when this young lady saw the word fixing with the number two, get blew up behind it, she knew he wasn't playing. So she texts back because she told police she immediately thought he was about to blow her whole apartment building up. The whole apartment building. She messaged him back and said she doesn't send naked photos of herself.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Kenneth didn't want to hear that. Kenneth texts back, boom, with an exclamation mark. Then he sent another text that said, gone, exclamation mark, boom, exclamation mark, boom, exclamation mark. Then he sent another text that said, Gone! Exclamation mark. Boom! Exclamation mark. Boom! Exclamation mark again. Then Kenneth sent a text saying he hoped there weren't any children in the building. See, when a person fixing to do something, it's done.
Starting point is 01:01:16 So he was hoping no kids was in the building because he don't have smoke with the kids. He has smoke with the young woman. He fixing to do something too. The final message, which I think is the most important, Kenneth Lee sent, according to police, was him requesting that the woman return the $20 to him.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Okay? And she replied, I'm fixing to buy some crack with that money. I made that last part up, but this all sounds like one big convoluted crackhead mess, okay? Now, the woman called police after receiving the messages, and she interpreted the messages as threats to either bomb or shoot her.
Starting point is 01:01:48 You think? And Lee was arrested, and now he faces charges of making a bomb threat and threatening acts of violence, and he's being held in jail on $15,000 bail, and this is why I will never, ever attempt to hook my homegirls up with anyone. And I advise you all to do the same,
Starting point is 01:02:04 okay? Message to all my homegirls, don't go chasing I advise you all to do the same. Okay? Message to all my homegirls. Don't go chasing love connections from Charlemagne. Stick to the tenders and Christian mingles you're used to. Please give Kenneth Lee the sweet sounds of the hammer tones, please. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:02:21 You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw! All right. And I can guarantee you with a $15,000 bail and the fact that he's asking for his $20 back, ain't nobody fixing to bail Kenneth Lee out no time soon. He ain't going to be there for a while. Ain't nobody fixing to bail him out. All right. Thank you for that donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Now, when we come back, we have Michael Arsenault. He gonna be there for a while. Ain't nobody fixing to bail him out. All right. Thank you for that donkey of the day. Now, when we come back, we have Michael Arsenault. Did I say that right? Yes. He's an author. He'll be joining us. New York Times bestselling author. He's gonna be doing Yee's book club tonight, right?
Starting point is 01:02:56 Yes, he'll be at my book club tonight. His book is I Can't Date Jesus. It's his memoir. And it's very interesting him talking about growing up in Houston and being heavy into the church. But then there was a change. And we'll tell you what that change is all about. Well, he'll tell you. All right. We'll do that when we come back.
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Starting point is 01:03:30 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. E-J-M-V-Angela Yee. Shalom and the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. You can't pronounce your last name, Michael.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Michael Arsenault. It was close. Damn it, man. Arsenault, but we was almost there. I think I barely pronounced Michael, so just be glad he got that. Shut up! I love the title of your book, my brother. I appreciate that. My mom does not, so thank you.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Why I Can't Date Jesus. And why doesn't your mom like the title of the book? My mom is a devout Catholic, so I have a book called I Can't Date Jesus. And I'm a practicing homosexual, so you can imagine how that might have gone for her. You also could have been a priest. Yes, I was approached for the priesthood at 20. I'm definitely not a priest.
Starting point is 01:04:12 You turned it down? Yeah, he wanted me to be a priest and a Q. So I write about that in the book. And hindsight, I realize that's why he wore so much purple. But yes, it was a black priest named Father Marty with a curly wig who said he saw a priest in me because I literally always had to go to church. And you also were a virgin at the time still. At some point you were like, I got to experience. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:31 A lot of the book is learning how to hoe without the fear of God. Catholic priests hoe without the fear of God all the time. That's SVU. I don't want crimes on me. It's like pedophilia. No, I think for me, I grew up, I had a really early exposure to AIDS. I write about that in the book, and I grew up really Catholic. So I knew I was gay, but I never wanted to really act upon it
Starting point is 01:04:51 because I thought, like, death, you die when you have sex, or you go to hell. So I was kind of really messed up in the head. So part of the book, it's a lot of different things touching the book, but it's like forging my identity through my sexuality. And, like, that's actually where the title comes from, a conversation I had with my mom where she knows that I'm born gay, but kept saying, you know, if you have sex, you might get hit by a bus and I don't know where you're going. I was like, well, girl, I can't date Jesus.
Starting point is 01:05:13 What do you want me to do? Right. So, yeah, it's about having pleasure. What does sex got to do with getting hit by a bus? Well, she said if I had sex with a man, then I might get hit by a bus and like die. So like the sin of like having like sex is going to send me to hell. What she's saying is being a homosexual, that means that he's going to end up going bus and, like, die. So, like, the sin of, like, having, like, sex is going to send me to hell. What she's saying is being a homosexual, that means that he's going to end up going to hell. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So what's your relationship with your mom now? My mom and I are as fine as we can be. I know underneath everything that she literally is just loving me the best way she knows how to. I think the thing about her and where we differ is that her version of religion has kept her alive, and I respect that. Because I admire her more than anyone on the planet. But I think her religion makes me not want to live. And we can't meet that middle. And so we do the best that we can.
Starting point is 01:05:55 So we don't really talk about the book. What about your dad? I don't read. But no. So I write about a lot of chaos in the home, a lot of some stuff that's not the best. He calls every so often. He talks like a hurricane. Hey, that boy, you doing all right?
Starting point is 01:06:15 How's that weather? You need anything? I got you. He still threatens to stab people for me, which is really sweet. Very sweet. We're as good as we can be. We don't really talk that much about other stuff, but we're actually good.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And I actually think he cares less about the gay thing than she does, which is a plot twist. She loves religion more than she loves, I don't want to say loves her son, but kind of, right? I won't say that because I think ultimately she thinks she's saving my soul. And I genuinely respect that. I respect religion. I think a lot of brilliant people can be religious. I think also at the same time,
Starting point is 01:06:46 a lot of brilliant people suspend their better senses when they are religious. I think to me, with a lot of people, if you question that part of religion, then you question other things. And if faith is all you have, and if faith is what keeps you going, then that can unravel.
Starting point is 01:07:00 And that's a very scary thought. So even if we're incapable of having this type of conversation, I do respect where she's coming from. Because one thing I want to do about in the book is be honest but be respectful to my parents. I really truly wanted to understand why they are the way that they are and how not to be that way so I could break that pattern. And, you know, suppressing things is something that has hindered you for so long
Starting point is 01:07:24 and hinders a lot of people also. We're all taught to be one way. And then we come to feel like, realize who we actually are. And sometimes that's a bigger conflict than others. So for me, I just kept letting fear control me. It was like fear of not talking about my dad getting drunk and getting wild in the house. And I'm not really an innately fearful person, but I let these things control me for so long. And then finally, I just like, you have to at least try. Now, what did you mean when you said you got exposed
Starting point is 01:07:48 to HIV at an early age? My uncle died of AIDS when I was six. And what did your dad, how did your dad describe it? But was it from needles or was it? Oh, this is good
Starting point is 01:07:56 because he's from the South. So I'm from the South. So I already know how he described it. It was a mix of both. He was gay, but he was a heroin addict. I had a conversation
Starting point is 01:08:05 with my sister my sister's nine years older than me so she remembers a lot more um she was saying that actually my dad and my uncle were actually really tight i think i realized in hindsight my dad was speaking from a place of anger this is also 1990 everybody was so ignorant about hiv a lot of people still because actually i i've actually never said this. I don't care if they hear it. One of my cousins, I found out, went up to my dad and was like,
Starting point is 01:08:29 your son bragging about being gay on the internet. And my dad knew not to talk to me with that bullshit, but he talked to my sister. That's sometimes how he communicates to me. He actually took up for me,
Starting point is 01:08:39 which I was like, that old thug said that? And she was like, yes. What did he say? He was like, I know my boy is gay. I don't care as long as he happy. I was like, he happy?ug said that? And she was like, yes. What did he say? He was like, I know my boy is gay. I don't care as long as he happy. I was like, he happy?
Starting point is 01:08:48 That's what you want, though. No, that was beautiful. He just don't normally talk like that. Right, well, he say that to you. No, I think I've never brought a dude home. So we'll see how that goes. But I actually think he'd be fine. Are you going to bring one home soon?
Starting point is 01:09:01 Like, is there somebody you're dating that you're going to bring home to Christmas? I like someone, but we're not there yet on, like, bringing the family. If you really like somebody, I wouldn't do that to them and bring them home. Yeah, you don't want to do that. Not for Thanksgiving. There are family members that actually want me to bring somebody home. Well, one year, my cousin was like, you f*** anybody? Like, literally at Christmas.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And then the next year, my aunt... You know Christmas dinner? Yeah, literally. And then the next year, my aunt was like, are you seeing anyone? You're handsome. Like, it's cold there. Don't be cold. She was basically telling you it was cuffing season.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yes. Go get you something to keep you warm, Michael. And I was literally like, Tasha said that, asked me if this was what I was f***ing about. She was like, yeah, that's what I meant. But your mom was right there and she scares me. So there are family members that are like, don't be alone. Don't have like a dusty d***, which is sweet. Progress on everybody's own time. See, don't be alone. Don't have like a dusty, which is sweet. Progress on everybody's own time.
Starting point is 01:09:48 That'd be amazing. Especially at Thanksgiving. Pass the stuffing, Michael. But you know what? Disappointed me about you, Michael. You do not like giving jobs. What? Whoa.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Whoa. Excuse me. What did you say? You sound like you're upset about this. Here we go. You say you don't? Why are you asking? Because I'm going to treat him the same way
Starting point is 01:10:05 I would treat a woman if a woman told me she don't do that wait a minute what comes with shouldn't you get pleasure out of pleasuring
Starting point is 01:10:11 how dare you Michael it's not a chore I know it's a real job but it's not a chore okay look I don't think most dicks look good most dicks are ugly to me
Starting point is 01:10:21 I don't really like them I don't like giving but if I, but if I'm like, if I really like you, I will. And I'm good at it. I got big teeth, but I know how to open. So, I don't love it, but love is giving. I do it right if I have to. That's how it should be. You can't just go around sucking random s***.
Starting point is 01:10:37 You suck the s*** as well. But look, he doesn't really like it. You're supposed to love it when you're with somebody. Well, you know what? I have loved it when you're with somebody. Well, you know what? I have loved it when I like the person. Okay. There you go. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And I got good Yelp reviews on it. So it's like... You have good Yelp reviews on it. This is crazy. So what makes a pretty d***? I like mine. Not to be... So you think you're d***ing other people's d***?
Starting point is 01:11:01 No, no, no. The first d*** I ever sucked was really nice. Okay. So you were spoiled. Yeah. What about uncircumcised? Does that matter? I've never seen one with the extra cap.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I don't know. Charlamagne actually had an extra. No cap. No cap. I've actually never seen a nigga with a fitted up close. All right. We have more with Michael Arsenault when we come back. Don't move.
Starting point is 01:11:23 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now tonight is Angela Yee's book club, and we have a special author in the building, Michael Arsenault. Yee. Because you weren't too fond of, like, men on film,
Starting point is 01:11:36 and, you know, spoofs like that on In Living Color. No, I mean, okay, so... You didn't like men on film? Like, now I can be like, hated it, but, like, back then, the thing about In Living Color, it's like that was perpetuating a really negative stereotype about gay black men. It was like the effeminate gay black men. Like, since then, I realized, like, there's nothing necessarily wrong with, like,
Starting point is 01:12:00 the image of effeminate gay men because that's a lot of people's reality. There's nothing wrong with that. And I write about Beyonce even helping me become more comfortable with things that are considered feminine. I just think at the time, you only saw gay men dying or to be mocked. And if you're black and gay,
Starting point is 01:12:14 you still don't really have anything on television that centers you directly. And that's made in a way that people, like, the thing about this book is, you know, it was a hard time getting it sold
Starting point is 01:12:23 because everyone, it's very nice language to say you're gay and black which means you're too niche which is a nice way of saying like white people don't care or like black people are too homophobic and i rejected both of those notions because some people actually told me that directly yeah so i just think that's all i saw and so if that's all you see especially if you're struggling with something like those images a little bit you could They could be funny but they were also hurtful Because if that's all you see that's how you treat I've been in fights with people who thought
Starting point is 01:12:49 I was going to be like that Interesting perspective Because you're gay so you see it a different way I just thought it was funny I can see where you're coming from And there's humor in it but I also think that's the only thing available And that's a problem I like a sassy savage
Starting point is 01:13:03 I don't know if Lil Uzi gay, but that's my favorite. Oh, with the shimmy. Yeah, man. I actually really like the shimmy. Yeah, man. Just the way he moves and he be with the shimmy if you want to fight. Yeah. I just like, that's what I like. You made him gay. We don't know if he's gay, alright? I'm just saying I like that energy is what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Okay. So, you said that you were born gay, right? Yes. And you struggled with that. Even at five years old, you had an experience. Yeah. And I do. They care about it. Because I was trying to figure this out, right? What experience at five?
Starting point is 01:13:32 We'll get into that. But at the age of five, things do happen and you don't know anything about sexuality at all. Where's the thing? Like, if you ask any straight kid, did they play doctor? Did they have crushes on little girls? What do they do? Most people will have an answer. It's not unheard of.
Starting point is 01:13:47 It's stigmatized further because it's people of the same sex. Because you really don't see overt displays of sexuality, particularly gay men. You don't see that on TV, so it makes people uncomfortable. So at five, I was just naturally
Starting point is 01:14:03 curious. It was a girl, because I've never been a napper, doctor with a little girl. I, like, it makes people uncomfortable. So at, like, five, I was just naturally curious. It was a girl, like, because I've never been a napper. Like, doctor would like a little girl. I'm like, this isn't as fun with that little boy. And so, yeah, I knew I didn't necessarily have the language, but I knew I liked boys more than girls. I was thinking about these two guys I grew up with. And when we were maybe, like, 11 years old, one of them told me the other one performed oral sex on him. And he didn't really know it was his first time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:28 But I was like, I wonder if they were just experimenting or if they. I think that's more so what that is. I hope so. Because, yeah, I didn't do all that. Yeah, I didn't do all that. 11. Goodness gracious. He was like, I heard this feels really good.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Oh, that means they was hearing too much and they wanted to. That's a curiosity, though. That's when you know it can be a kind of a learned behavior, too, though, right? I believe people are born gay, but I do believe it can be a learned behavior as well. What do you mean by that? What you just said, like the guy's 11. He heard it, felt good. Like, hmm, Got a little curious I don't necessarily know If that's learned behavior
Starting point is 01:15:06 So much as it is People being curious About sexuality And I think a lot of times People don't necessarily have Particularly men Don't have space To be curious
Starting point is 01:15:14 Because maybe a one Or two off act Results in like some label You think gaydar Is a real thing Because I don't have that I'm not gaydar
Starting point is 01:15:22 Because it seems like But some of the guys You mentioned I guess you only mentioned The ones that you approached That did turn out To have some interest Well I've always had To approach men Men don't have that. I'm not good at it. But some of the guys you mentioned, I guess you only mentioned the ones that you approached that did turn out to have some interest. Well, I've always had to approach men. Men don't approach me. I was told I had resting
Starting point is 01:15:31 bitch face by a very progressive straight man. Really? He said I had resting bitch face. A straight man told me that, actually. I love gay lingo, though. That don't mean nothing. I know it don't. I say trade. I don't think resting bitch face is gay lingo. Listen, I love gay men. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Everybody in this room knows it. Why do you love gay men, gentlemen? Just stereotyping. I love gay men because gay men are free. I could see that. I mean, if... You know, especially if you're black and gay, you already got two strikes against you.
Starting point is 01:15:57 So to be comfortable with yourself and to live fully out loud and not really concern yourself with what everybody else thinks, there is a certain freedom that most people don't experience because you have to because you're literally pushed against the wall. So you make a choice. Yeah, I respect that. Why do you think people are still
Starting point is 01:16:11 so scared to be out? I mean, it's still like that popping to be gay. It's just that gay and black, I mean, the suicide rates are really high under the Sweet Potato Saddam administration. Queer violence is going up. You said Sweet Potato Saddam. I usually don't like to say his name.
Starting point is 01:16:26 So in the book, there is a whole list of names. In the chapter, Sweet Potato Saddam, there's a whole list of names you can call him instead of that. I don't like his name. What do you hope that people get when they read this book? Because I got a lot of different emotions from reading it. But what do you hope happens when people read this book? I usually try not to say
Starting point is 01:16:45 too much to read, but my intention in anything I've ever written is to make people laugh and to make people think. I didn't invent anything different. It's a coming-of-age story for the most part.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Yeah, things are universal. Like, you think about how do I want to lose my virginity? I want it to be somebody that I'm in love with and I care about and it to be this great experience. I still see that person
Starting point is 01:17:03 all the time in Harlem. It's so funny. The one that you lost your virginity to? Yeah, it wasn't this great experience. I still see that person all the time in Harlem. It's so funny. The one that you lost your virginity to? Yeah. It wasn't a great experience. At all. You could press charges. I wouldn't even think to press charges because I think people don't know a lot about consent and how things should go. So that was like very much a learning
Starting point is 01:17:19 lesson. Was alcohol involved? Yeah. And it wasn't just like drunk. It was kind of like I was deeply intoxicated. So I, and it's something I didn't. I don't remember. I don't think so. No, actually, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that was just something I had to learn from because I didn't even really think of
Starting point is 01:17:36 myself in that way until I like really had to sit down and like write this out. What age was that? What age was that? I was 22, 21, 22. 22. Yeah. Did you feel like a, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:49 you did wait a long time. Did you feel like a late bloomer? I am a late bloomer. I'm a little awkward. I'm working through that. You used to be scared of the s***. Nah, I thought I was just handled like a real bitch.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Hey! Well, actually, now, I'm selfish. Is he like you, um, you said d*** with a resting b***h face? No. Wow, you lazy mother f***er. No, no, no, no. I'm so disgusted.
Starting point is 01:18:15 No, no, no. No, this is not fair. For the record, you get tricks and with a smile if I'm really into you. Do you make eye contact? Do I make eye contact? Oh, yes, I have.
Starting point is 01:18:25 The last time, but that was like... I always feel like that's weird. That was years ago. You like it? I don't want to look at you. Like, go to work. I always feel like it's weird because I know a lot of people do that. They be like...
Starting point is 01:18:34 I have, man. I've been like, no, you're doing a job. Go to work. Focus. See how he does it? It's not him doing it. It's the other person. So you like getting it, but you don't like giving it?
Starting point is 01:18:45 Selfish. Who doesn't like getting ****? I eat ass. Does that not make balance? Oh, okay. Thank you. By the way, I will suck **** more. I will be better about that.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Please, Michael. Sorry. This is actually, this is probably helping the book, but not my dating life. Yeah. That should be the title of your next book, by the way. What? I will suck **** more. Dot, dot, dot, dot, More. I have the second title.
Starting point is 01:19:06 It's I Don't Want to Die Poor. Okay. It rhymes. I Will Suck B*** More, I Don't Want to Die Poor. I can't date Jesus. Pick it up right now. I'm reading that today. Michael Arsenault will be at Angelique's Book Club.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Yes, thank you so much. Which is going down in Brooklyn on Tuesday at Westac Ivy So thank you so much, thank you Tasha I'm reading it today I'm really excited for this Thank you, I'm excited too Thank y'all so much for having me Love, sex, family, race and other reasons I put my faith in Beyonce Buy it, thank you
Starting point is 01:19:38 My goodness, it's the Breakfast Club Michael Arsenault Arsenault Arsenault, itenault Arsenault Yeah Arsenault It's the Breakfast Club Good morning
Starting point is 01:19:47 Morning everybody It's DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlamagne Tha Guy We are the Breakfast Club Let's get to the rumors Let's talk Logic It's about time
Starting point is 01:19:57 What's going on? Rumor Report Rumor Report This is the Rumor Report Talk to him With Angela Yee On the Breakfast Club. All right, well, Logic is prepping to release his album, Young Sinatra 4,
Starting point is 01:20:11 and he says the entire group, this group, will appear on the album. Hey, what's up, y'all? You know how, like, sometimes, like, you're not supposed to give secrets about your album, but then you tell everybody that you have the entire Wu-Tang Clan featured on your album? The only time you will ever, ever see me anticipate a Logic song. Really? Wow. Goodness gracious.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Why do you make a Logic like that? Why is that hate? Just because I say that's the only time I'm anticipating a Logic song. That's not hate. You never know. You never know. You never know. You might hear another song that might.
Starting point is 01:20:38 What's your favorite Logic record, G? What if, what if. Hey, what's your favorite Logic record? The Suicide song, of course. Oh, okay. What's your favorite Logic record, Envy? 1-800-SUICIDE. Oh, no doubt. What's yours favorite Logic record? The Suicide song, of course. Oh, okay. What's your favorite Logic record, Envy? 1-800-SUICIDE. Oh, no doubt.
Starting point is 01:20:46 What's yours? I don't have one. You don't like the Suicide record? The Suicide record was dope. I don't like it. It was a big song. It was a great song. I like what it meant to people, but I don't like the record.
Starting point is 01:20:54 I like that song. Right. Well, anyway, his album is coming out on September 28th. The last time played on radio. My daughter loves Logic, and so does my son, so chill out. And he will be at the iHeart Festival as well. All Envy kids look like Logic. You hear my line?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Why? Because they half black? What if Logic did a song with Lil Duval? I bet you would anticipate that. No, I told Duval, you don't need that feature.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Don't do that to yourself. Why? You better stop it. All right, Charlamagne is going to be executive producing a documentary on Bakari Sellers.
Starting point is 01:21:24 They're both from South Carolina. I ain't watching that. So I guess it's a South Carolina thing. I wouldn't either. Well, here's a little snippet. South Carolina is the place that made me who I am. Why should supporters vote for you? I know I'm 30 years old, but I just finished my eighth year in the South Carolina House of Representatives.
Starting point is 01:21:41 We have the power to change South Carolina. I'm only 30 and my father is 70, but we shouldn't be sharing the same experiences when it comes to burying our loved ones. We will not bow down, but we will stand up. A drop on the clues bombs for Bakari Sellers, future governor of South Carolina. Shout out to Bakari.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I'm going to watch that because of Bakari. We're going to be in the New Orleans Film Festival in October. Okay. All right. And let's talk about Drake. Congratulations to him on breaking records. Now Drake has broken Usher's record for the most weeks on top of the Billboard Hot 100 chart in a year because of that song, In My Feelings.
Starting point is 01:22:22 That has made him beat that record. So congratulations. Drake be breaking all kind of records. You can't beat us in outbreaks. What does one have to do with the other? And how do you even know that? Alright, now Wale was upset and says that he was
Starting point is 01:22:37 racially profiled on American Airlines. Apparently, obviously he flies a lot. And shout out to Wale. I just seen him the other day at Kevin Durant's 30th birthday party. He tweeted out, LMAO stuck on the runway again. I bet it sounds like I'm welling. Nope. Half an hour and
Starting point is 01:22:53 counting. And then he said, okay, they canceled the flight. This is the fifth time in like 10 days. All I can do is laugh. American Airlines responded, we know you're ready to be in the air and we're so sorry for the wait. Looks like aircraft maintenance will have you in the air soon. And then Wale said, how about your employees?
Starting point is 01:23:09 Megumi and Don told me you're not supposed to be in first class. I'm calling the police. And American Airlines told them, here you go. You are racist and I want to know what happens now. Megumi and Don is their names. So I don't know exactly what went down after all of this, but I'm sure we'll find out.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Why are they telling me not to be in first class? I have no idea. American Airlines responded to XXL's request for a comment. They said they are concerned about Wale's claims. They said discrimination has no place at American Airlines. From the team members we hired to the customers we serve, inclusion and diversity is a way of life at American. So they said they are concerned about what could have potentially happened all right now let's talk about the emmys again tiffany haddish and kat williams looks like the two of them have made up
Starting point is 01:23:55 now if you guys recall kat williams said this about tiffany haddish on the frank and wanda show she's been doing comedy since she was 16 you can't tell me your favorite tiffany had his joke why because she ain't done a tour yet she ain't done a special she has not proven the ability to tell jokes back to back for an hour to nobody did you think she wrote girls trip goofball or do you think that was already a script and they handed it to her but people like real and that's why they like they love real because everybody's real why they like her. Is that what they like? They love realness. Oh, because everybody's real then. They like her because she want to sleep with a white man. Alright.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Well, Tiffany, after she heard those comments that she couldn't wait to see Cat at the Emmys and she said she wants to just shower him with real love because you need it and I love you. Well, we see pictures of them and he's bowing down to her and she's with him and she's smiling. So I guess they had their conversation and things are good now.
Starting point is 01:24:47 That's why Tiffany will always win because she's loving and forgiving. And she takes the high road. And I'm the exact opposite. But I'm working through it in therapy. He got to apologize in public, though. I'm not going to lie. When I first seen the picture of Cat Williams on the carpet with Tiffany Haddish, I was like, damn, Cat is short.
Starting point is 01:25:00 He definitely apologized behind the scenes. He got to do it in public, though. And you guys put up the picture on Revolve again. Doesn't he look like he's just really short next to Tiffany Haddish at first? He got to do it in public, though. If you guys put up the picture on Revolve again, doesn't he look like he's just really short next to Tiffany Haddish at first? He's on his knees. I didn't realize. If you bowed down to her, does that mean you didn't mean anything you said? I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 01:25:14 You can't go that hard and then bow down. I want to hear that from your mouth full. I want you to say, apologize in public. Get on Instagram Live or go do an interview and apologize. The last thing I want to say about the Emmys is that Donald Glover showed up as Teddy Perkins from Atlanta. And y'all know that was my favorite episode of Atlanta from this last season. I watched it over and over and over and over again.
Starting point is 01:25:34 So, love that. Atlanta was good. It started off kind of slow. Yeah, you didn't like it. I didn't like the first few episodes. I loved it. I liked the Gator Man episode with Cat Williams that Donald Glover wrote for Cat and then Cat won the Emmy. And then I like the...
Starting point is 01:25:45 Petty. The FUBU episode. FUBU episode was good. Barbershop episode was great. Barbershop was great. It was really strong. I love Atlanta. We got to go.
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