The Breakfast Club - Beanie Sigel + Classic Interviews

Episode Date: December 27, 2016

Tues 12/27- As 2017 approaches, the Breakfast Club is giving their best interviews of 2016. One of the most heated interviews of the year featured Beanie Sigel who was beefin with Meek Mill who was also beefin with The Game (confused?) Also, Envy, Angela and Charlamagne sit down with Tracy Morgan, Stevie J. and more. Charlamagne awards himself with Donkey of the Day and Katt Williams as well. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building from the fake HU. Howard University. Jamila Lemieux. Good morning. And Amber Phillips. And Amber Phillips.

I don't know what school you went to, Amber. I went to a small women's college in Pittsburgh called Chatham. We let you slide. We let you slide there. The real Chatham. Good morning, ladies. The real Chatham. Good morning.

I didn't know you were going to bring Amber, Jamila. I've been talking to Amber in my DMs. Yes. I know. Not like that, but you know. Wow. You say you bring any black woman you want. I said, I'm bringing Amber.

Absolutely. I'm happy she's here. And it takes a real controversy for Jamila to get up here, Jamila and Amber. That was when Charlamagne was pictured with Tommy Lahren. There was some laughing emoji saying, I don't see color, do you? Jamila, you were pissed, though. Why were you upset? Yeah, Jamila, tell us why that struck a chord in you.

Because it struck a chord in me, too, when I first saw it. If George W. Bush gave us one good thing in his whole presidency. It was we don't negotiate with terrorists. When you take somebody who has said things about our people that are so racist, that are so hateful, that are so lacking in value, we don't need to sit with somebody like that to understand why she feels the way she does or where she's coming from. And if we do, it's not on a platform where we're laughing and joking. Because the things that she says, she's not coming up with them on her own, it's not on a platform where we're laughing and joking. Because the things that she says, she's not coming up with them on her own. She's not the architect. She's not the

head of any of this. But she is making this very dangerous rhetoric normal and comfortable. Right? So she's a cute girl. She looks like any other little blonde 20-something you can follow on Instagram. So her saying that goes further with young folks,

particularly young white kids, than it does coming from an Ann Coulter or Donald Trump. She's making it cool. She's making it sexy. When you give her a platform and joke around and pal around with her as if she's anybody else you have a disagreement with, that legitimizes her in ways that I don't think we should. And what we were all so upset with you about, so much of what she said and people like her was about black men.

You know what I'm saying? Like the idea that black men are inherently criminal. And so when black women got mad, it wasn't like, oh, F. Charlamagne to hell with him, blah, blah. It's like it was a lot of that. But it's coming from a place of we're defending you. When somebody is comparing the Black Lives Matter movement to the Ku Klux Klan, that's putting us in danger, but that's putting you in danger, too. We're standing up for you. We're saying, look, we love our men.

We don't want you all to be brutalized by the police. This is somebody who's made light of young men and women, of course, but particularly young men being killed by the police or harassed by the police and stopped and frisked. And when you joke around with that and say, ha-ha, we can kiki and make little black penis matters jokes and all that stuff, it's hurtful to people who are literally putting their lives on the line. I'm a journalist. I'm a writer. She's an activist.

There are people who are spending, and they're not famous, and you don't see them on CNN or MSNBC. They're spending nights, weeks in jail. They're losing their jobs. They're dropping out of school. And it's not that they're not out there at all. The assumption that, well, why isn't there any woke black or Hispanic women? But they are out there.

But that's not what I said, though. But I do feel like we should poke holes in her narrative any chance we get because she does have the voice of young people. She's going to be a voice for the conservative right for the next four years. But I think she means not in a joking manner. Right. Like it's not a post-war. Well, I'm not an activist. I'm a guy that can go from serious, I can go from righteous to ratchet real quick. Right. I think

so coming from my perspective, I'm also known as a high priest of the Black Joy on our podcast called the Black Joy Mixtape. And I think there's a way. Plug your platform. There you go. There it is. There's a way to do both, right? I think there's this assumption around, that's why I'm so thrilled to be here,

there's assumption around black feminists that we're just sitting in our rooms, reading Audre Lorde, being so serious all the time, but we listen to you, right? We were laughing, we've used are you done or are you finished several times in our own organizing spaces. That's why we talk about

black joy a lot because there's room to joke with it but there's also room to make sure that she doesn't leave your platform feeling more confident than before she went back on her platforms and said all these terrible things about trevor noah saying that he basically wasn't black enough she made comments around you um and i think she clearly didn't learn anything from being here. But all I'm saying is the conversation that we had was me sitting there explaining to her why her rhetoric is dangerous to black people, especially black men. Like we had these,

it's not even the first time I've had this conversation with her. I had this conversation with her back in February in a public platform when I was on her show on the Blaze Network. And then when I saw what she said on Trevor Noah, I'm like, yo, she still doesn't get it. So since she's not coming to the Breakfast Club, let's sit down and have a conversation so I can explain to her why her rhetoric is so dangerous. But what does it mean to offer her friendship outside of holding her accountable? A big piece in the movement that we talk about is like we're family, we're this. But in order to be family, you have to struggle together.

And honestly, there are just people with whom you can't reason. You know what I mean? I think it's the moderates that we might be able to have some success with because they didn't show up by the droves to protect us from Donald Trump. You know, a whole lot of white voters stay at home. And I don't think she

can be reached in a fun, cool hip-hop space. I don't think she can be reached by Trevor Noah, who's very conciliatory and all we have to do is listen to each other. But what your audience needs, I think, is for you all to just really understand the power that you all have in radio. People come here to talk to millennials. So what are you going to talk to millennials about? And for years, Charlamagne, I felt like on the various shows that you've done, a lot of people, I can't believe you like him. You know, he's problematic. He's this.

I'm like, he's complicated like a lot of people. But I've heard you so many times be the voice of reason, particularly around issues of race. That's why I was so personally hurt that this was the person that you wanted to joke around with. And her platform is really based on hate and ignorance. All of it. And people that believe those things feel like she's their spokesperson. Yes. And if she doesn't have that, she doesn't have that platform anymore.

But she already has a platform. And that's why I made the comment I made, which was not meant to be offensive in any way, shape, or form, or discredit any black woman or Hispanic woman. I just feel like we need an online news network with news pundits that can combat that young voice that's going to be coming

from the conservative right for the next four years. And I think that we have that. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't like we don't get boosted up in the way that she does because we don't represent what she does. And in our community, we don't have the money and resources. But like, look at me. I started my career with a blog. I'm 32 years old.

I'm a media executive. Right. Like I'm in a position to hire other people, to hire editors, to assign work. And we have big plans for next year at Interactive One. You look at Chrystles, right? You look at Francesca, like you look at Ali, look at Amber. We are building platforms. Now, again, we're not going to get put on a blaze.

We're not getting shows on MSNBC like we were a few years ago. So what we need now more than ever is not to bolster somebody like her up by giving her access to your space, but to bolster somebody like her up by giving her access to your space, but to bolster somebody like Ambra, right? So right now, maybe it's like, look, once a week we're going to do a 15-minute Black Lives Matter just check in. We're going to talk to an activist. We're going to talk to a journalist and just kind of talk about

what's going on in the world. You have. We've been doing that for the past six years. You have, but I think it's like making it a concern like this is a thing that we're calling it what it is and we're saying every Thursday, this is your black lives, you know, whatever. Check in. Trust black women. Trust black women.

My thing is like, and I totally apologize. I didn't look at Crystal in that way or Francesca in that way. Like, I'm thinking news pundit. But in a way, they are news pundits. So how do we help them amplify their voices? You know, like allowing, like when you had me on your MTV show,

it was something terrible that happened. Somebody had gotten killed. I was kind of brought in to be the voice of reason. No, not to tell jokes. Not to tell jokes and stuff too. I'm ratchet.

I, you know, like I'm a regular girl. You get dressed up. You know, I came into my tents, but like I want you all, like, I think like everyone was saying this assumption that, you know, we're all just so angry all the time and we're mad.

It's like, yeah, we're angry in the way that everybody in this room is angry because there are things that are happening in the world that are bad and scary. But we're also regular girls, you know, and folks that listen to hip hop and listen to you all who deserve to be heard. And I just think that, like, I feel for Angela sometimes. I'm like, just being the only woman in the room, period, is always hard. But with something like that, knowing that other black women

were hurt and offended by something that you did quite innocently. And honestly, I don't think you go out of your way to say things to hurt black women, to get outrage.

But when you do it, it's just how you receive what we say. So I appreciate you having us here today. Don't go anywhere. Jamila Lemieux, Amber Phillips. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. What up, y'all? It's DJ Envy. Hey, I'm Angela Yee. And I go by the name of Charlemagne Tha God. And we just want to say happy holidays from all three of us. All three of y'all. The Breakfast Club.

Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Jamila Lemieux and Amber Phillips in the building. What do you think of the donkey of the day? When he gave himself donkey of the day? I appreciated it. I think there was a little bit of, you know, I was wrong, but.

You walked it back a little bit. You walked it back. The but was I was actually trying to empower us. Like I was saying, let's create a platform with young black Hispanic women to be a voice like Tommy Lauren. Forget the like Tommy Lauren. Not be like Tommy. I never said be like Tommy Lauren.

I know, but I'm saying you said like Tommy. But don't even bring her name up. But is Tommy not a voice? But think about how she became a voice. It's like... Facebook. Do y'all realize how much power y'all have on social media? Yes. Even when y'all talk about like Tommy. Tommy used Facebook to get poppin'. Nobody watches The Blaze.

He took our little clips, put them on Facebook, they got poppin'. Y'all make things trend in moments. I've been trending for two weeks. I never was number one on Facebook. All the interviews I've done TV, I've done never until black women collectively came together and said, we're gonna try to get him up out of the paint. Y'all do that with Insecure

on Sundays, number one trending. Scandal, how to get away with murder. Y'all can do that for your own platforms. And it's turning into opportunities. Look at Lovey, and I think you all had a back and forth about the word females, right? She's a New York Times bestselling author now. You know, she started a blog. She was funny. She's a social

media strategist. She tweeted about scandal. I feel like Levy's like half the reason scandal blew all the way up. I hid her book in my house too. I'm not going to lie to you. My wife bought her book and I hid it. I'm not going to lie to you. I think you should have her on your show. I think you should have her on your show and talk to her.

You know what I mean? Because if you will talk to somebody like Tomi, talk to your sister. Even when you make us mad, when we make you mad, we need to be able to talk to each other because no matter how deep our differences are,

we're family. She's not your family. But I just recognize y'all power. Like, y'all could trump her easily because of the power y'all have on social media. I feel like social media

is the engine. We just have to create a car. I think we do have to create an online news network and say, yes, Jamila is a news pundit now. Crystal is a news pundit now. Francesca is a news pundit now. I really think we need that.

I mean, I'm working. I run one of the sites. I am in charge of is news one dot com. We're building out a big news site like I'm on that. But I think it's really important that you understand where your family just going forward and how you talk to female celebrities and how you respond when male celebrities come in here and say certain things about women. Understand that black women live and die for our men. Literally. Absolutely. And we deserve

that in response. Where did this narrative that black men treat white women better than black women come into play? Observation. Because growing up, I don't know, I don't know about you, growing up, white girls were the girls that we would smut out. You didn't do that to black women. People always say, like, when a black man makes it,

he gets the white women. That's been, you know. Kanye West said it himself. I wasn't from Queens, and I went to Hampton University. Like, there wasn't too many white women. Yeah. You know, growing up, and my mom and pop listened, like, automatically, you're black, you're going to stay with black. That's how I was raised. too many white women. Yeah. You know, growing up and my mom and pop listened like automatically

you're black, you're going to stay with black. That's how I was raised. Growing up, the holes in the hood was the white girls. The white girls that wanted to hang around the black guys.

See, Charlamagne, this is a male privilege moment. What I'm just saying. I just call all white girls hoes. My whole life, I never, there's just certain things. Black women were here.

That's what we seen on TV. White women were here. But you know, and that's interesting. As far as treating us, you know, treating white women better, I think that there's

a space at times that is made to engage them and hear them out, which is why somebody, they're just white female privilege. They're particularly

a good looking, quote unquote, white woman like Tomi has. And so if she looks, I mean, she's not what beautiful is to me,

and I certainly know that I'm not what beautiful is to me and i certainly know that i'm not what beautiful is to her and that's totally fine but i know that she exists in the world where she is treated as a very pretty woman if she were 300 pounds of bad acne she probably would not have been introduced to you she wouldn't have been introduced to trevor noah and she wouldn't have blown up in the way that she's going to be on the blaze she would be on the blaze she would not be the face of anything, right? But just being willing to have that conversation

with her, like, this isn't the first time that black women have really come for you on Twitter. And again, yes, you've had me on your show. I reached out to you

about something in particular. I hope we get a second to talk about that, about being on the show. You've been respectful to me. To be fair, I'm already an industry person. You know what I mean?

I'm easier to talk to. People perceive me a little bit differently than they do folks like Amber. But... I hate Amber. You know what I mean? I'm easier to talk to. People perceive me a little bit differently than they do folks like Amber. I hate Amber. You did. We have still talked to. Yeah, the Black Joy Mixtape would love to still talk

to Charlamagne. This is such an opportunity and I do not take it lightly at all. But I appreciate this so much because again, your platform reaches the people who we want to activate. The folks who listen to this show are the people who I will help to register to vote or who I will help to turn out to a Say Her Name rally. And that's just such a critical point. And, again, it can be all done.

People consume politics and culture at the same time, right? And they do. Donald Trump will be on The Apprentice, apparently, doing politics and pop culture from the highest level. So why not us as well? I agree. Don't go anywhere. Jamila Lemieux, Amber Phillips. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Happy holidays. Wishing you and your family the very best this holiday season from all of

us here at The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Jamila Lemieux and Amber Phillips in the building. Now, Yee. Okay, so what is it that you wanted to bring up?

So we make sure we get to it. That y'all spoke to. Yes. So I reached out to Charlamagne after Nick Cannon was on the show. Nick Cannon. Yes. Because of some of the things he said about Planned Parenthood and Black Genocide. And I know that you've had other guests on this show.

I'm not even going to call them out by name, who also speak to that same way of thinking. And it's dangerous. So it's somebody who, he talked about Planned Parenthood being black genocide, particularly about abortion. Think about all the stuff they did with Planned Parenthood and all of that type of stuff. That type of stuff is to take our community and forget gentrification.

It's real genocide, and it's been like that for years. This system is not built for us. I am of the belief that it is incredibly important that black women have access to reproductive health care, Planned Parenthood, which I do not work for them. I've done work with them. I've spoken at some of their conferences. I've been on panels with them.

They provide so many people in our community, men and women, and gender nonconforming people with access to STD and STI testing, to breast screenings, birth control, condoms, things that people need to have healthy sexual lives. And what we know is that the majority of adults of, you know, childbearing age are sexually active. Now, I don't expect everybody to share my views on abortion. I understand that that is a moral decision that each individual has a right to make. But when you take a huge platform and you're a huge celebrity and you say something like

Planned Parenthood has advocated for black genocide or represents black genocide, that's simply not true. And I don't like always deferring to the 3% number, but abortion only represents 3% of the business of Planned Parenthood. Most Planned Parenthood locations do not provide abortions. I don't like saying that number because it also implies that there's something wrong with abortion. And people also need more access to abortion care care and they should have access to abortion care. And if we think that there's this myth that abortion

is just birth control for irresponsible black women having a whole bunch of sex. It's a lot of things to a lot of people but most of the people who have abortions are already raising children. This is somebody making a decision that for economic reasons, for personal reasons

that they're not interested in bringing another child into the world. There's women that are married and they're struggling financially and they decide, okay, we don't want to have another child. Right. And for y'all, and for him, I fundamentally disagree with black women having abortions. Why? I'm just messing with y'all. I just want to see what the reaction is.

That's gonna be it. That's gonna be it. That's gonna be it. When we on TNC, my heart dropped. I was like, but what? But also in Nick Cannon saying that Planned Parenthood is supporting black genocide, what that lands on the ears is that black women are supporting the killing of our community. And we just know that's not true. Black women are making the best decisions they can with the resources they have. And actually if Nick Cannon would like

to lead a conversation on reproductive health care, we can talk about how there's grown men out here who still don't know how to put on a condom the right way. That is way more effective than you saying that we're killing our community. You're using the wrong size condoms. Yes, quit it.

You know damn well. You know damn well you don't need no magnums. I do think condoms are systemically uncomfortable for black men. They're systemically uncomfortable. We should do a condom demonstration right now because of that. But Amber, you know what bothers me though about our community? I feel like when somebody in our community says something that most of us or majority of us don't agree, we attack. It's attack.

Social media causes it. And I have a problem with that because they might not know. They might not have the information. They might not be educated. So I feel like when they attack, people are scared to say what they really feel and never know what they're feeling. This is coming from a personal place for Envy. No, no, no. It's not that.

Envy said he agreed with stopping Frisk a couple months ago. I remember. I did. I'm crazy. I mean, when somebody tries to kill you and you have four bullet holes in your car and you're trying to go home to your family, you say things that make you emotional and that's what it was. That's one of the things people use to say the Breakfast Club is problematic. Envy agrees with Stop and Frisk. Charlamagne

feels black women don't have no platforms. But also think about where those attacks are coming from, right? I think there are some folks who are definitely just popping off to be popping off. The attacks are coming from people who are also trying to save their own lives. There are a lot of people who are not here right now because of stop and frisk, if we're using that example, right? We know Eric Garner is gone. We know that there are countless. I'm from Columbus, Ohio.

Tamir Rice isn't here right now. So the reason why people are coming out and they're saying, hell no, you're not going to say this is because we're scared. And like you're saying, like there's there's two sides to this. Right. You want to protect your family, too. And there are people who are like, we're we're dealing with this at every side. Right. And we don't have as big a platforms as we need to to get the communications right on why our lives are important.

So I would see the attacks as a conversation for you to ask, say more. Why are you... Some people might have been stabbed and frisked and had their own personal situations. That's what it did. Because, I mean, you're talking to somebody that was on both sides.

Right, I'm sure. You've been stabbed and frisked numerous times and that's been the situation. I feel for y'all. But, you know, the sad thing about it is a lot of the information that you look up online, a lot of it's not true. A lot of it's not accurate.

So you think it's true. You think it's accurate. You think it's doing a good thing. And what happened was me being in the community doing these talks and doing shows, I would have women that would come up to me who had kids that have been killed from Stop and Frisk or teachers that said my students are late because of Stop and Frisk. Or people that

go to jail because they had a little weed on them. So it makes you open it up and it makes you think about it and it changes your mind. And it had nothing to do with, oh, they were on envy, but I think a lot of these times, conversations need to be had. A lot of us don't have the information. That's why it's so important to have the conversation with our folks and to keep

having these conversations with our folks. Even back in the day when you had the debates with Malcolm X and James Baldwin, you brought more black people and more black intellectuals together so that we can get to the heart of this. That's worth having.

Now more than ever, the call to have politicians on here, to have pundits, you know, and to not be upset. I know, but I'm just saying, like, in addition to that,

when somebody calls you out for something that you said, that's not the time to lash out. That's not the time to get mad. That's not the time to get mad. It's to do what we're doing right now and have a dialogue about it. All right. Well, we got more dialogue when we come back.

Don't go anywhere. Jamila Lemieux, Amber Phillips. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. What's up, y'all? It's Angela Yee wishing you and your family the very best this holiday season from all of us here at The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, usually we do the rumors here, but we're pushing the rumors back because we have these lovely ladies joining us from the fake HU, Jameela Lemieux and Amber Phillips. Now, Charlamagne, I give everybody the benefit of conversation because I have seen conversations change some people over the years. Like, I can look at Lena Dunham. Lena Dunham got that lashing

on social media, and she immediately was reaching out to black and brown people and learning. She understands how black women have been excluded from the feminism rhetoric for so long, and she's trying to include them now. Like, I've seen it literally change people over the years.

So I give everybody the benefit of the conversation. If they don't change after that, F them. That's how I feel about Tommy and anybody else. And that's how people feel about you. You know what I mean?

I mean, I know there certainly are people that are like, I'm not going on there. I wouldn't talk to him. You know, which I think is silly because it's like, okay, you disagree with him.

He'll, if he gives you access to his platform, you use it to say what you got to say. You go home. That does not mean that we're, you know, friends or that it's like, yeah, you know, Sean say what you gotta say. You go home. That does not mean that we're, you know, friends or that it's like

yeah, you know, Sean can go home. Would you go on The Blaze then? I wouldn't go on The Blaze because I don't think there's any value whether I win the argument or she talks circles around me. I just feel like nobody's gonna really be educated by that. You don't go to The Blaze to watch it because you have an open heart. You know what I mean? It's not even

it's to the right of Fox News. Right. You know, I just think all that will happen is that I to the right of Fox News. Right. You know, I just think all that would happen is that I would get more. That's pretty far right. That's almost like a complete circle. But like,

all I would get would be more death threats, more people harassing me, more screwing me around what I'm doing. I'm more concerned with convincing black people of our own humanity

than I am trying to convince white people of our humanity. And convincing black people of our power. Yes. We have power. We have power, but we cannot adequately

use that power until, for example, our men really come to terms with the ways that black women suffer at the intersection of racism and sexism. How you all can perform that and be complicit in that.

It's not just white men that are doing us harm. It's not just domestic violence that's doing us harm. It's not just domestic violence that's doing us harm. It's how we're treated by people who we raise, who we nurture, who we date, who we love. That's not always fair and equal

and just. And so it can be very small. It could be calling us females on Twitter. It could be not listening to us. It could be more, you know, just simply appearing like you're more open to Atomi than you are to somebody like us. It could be not listening to us. It could be more, you know, just simply appearing like you're more open to Atomi than you are to somebody like us. It could be berating Little Mama until she cries

because she's Little Mama and she's a punchline. I did that with her. But then you work in media, so you have to think about optics. So, yes, I can name a lot of really great interviews you've done since then and times that you've talked to black women and it was dope and it was great.

But that's the thing that's in people's memory. So you have to work against them. That's how imagery works. So you have to work against that. You can't just be like, I didn't do it. I did it six years ago. It's no big deal. Forgive me.

It's like, forgive me because of my actions since then. Right. Right. You know, maybe even bringing her on. She's been back. She's been back. You apologize. You apologize.

You apologize. And I just I'm looking forward to a spot. And we talk about this with my co-host, Jasmine Walker. Have to give her a shout out. The King of the South about how we need to hold the line that if it's not liberation, just can't be for some black folks. Right. that if it's not, liberation just can't be for some black folks, right? If we're not extending this to LGBTQ folks, queer, trans people, women,

then it's anti-black. That if we can't incorporate, if we can't bring all of us to justice together, then it's not what we're actually looking for, which is our collective liberation. Everybody got to make it to the other side with us, you know? I'm with you. I like dealing with women more than men anyway. I do. I'd rather have a bunch of strong women around me than a bunch of guys.

And we appreciate you guys for coming up here. We appreciate y'all so much. This was great. And the platform is always open. Even though you went to Hollywood, we'll still let you go. And Amber. Thank you. This is like a demo for Amber.

She don't even know it. I will look forward to seeing y'all again. I'm ready. Put me at the mentorship, whatever you need. There's a bunch of black women behind me who are like, we're there and we're ready and we're on the front lines and they would love to talk to you. And tell them where they can find you one last time. Oh, yeah. So I'm Amber J. Phillips online.

You can also find me on theblackjoymixtape.com. We're Black Joy Mixtape on Twitter and Instagram. And we would love to hear from y'all And Jamila, we appreciate you for joining us too Morning everybody, it's DJ MV Angelou Yee Charlamagne Tha Guy, we are The Breakfast Club We got a special guest in the building Beanie Siegel

Morning sir Now we've had some opinions about each other Over the past month or so I heard you on Tax Podcast Yeah And then you know I was questioning you With your diss records man

You sounded like a hater lately man A hater? Yeah How you say that? A hater Cause I feel like You know You put out two diss records

But then you was in the studio With me like Eight days prior To the first diss record And I'm like If anybody else did that I think you'd be saying that was a sucker move. I don't think you qualified to even

say I sound like a hater because you don't know all the particulars. So how you qualified to say I'm a hater? Hate on what? And why? I'm just telling you based on what I'm saying. But why do you say I'm a hater? Because, you know, everything is that used to be me,

and I used to be in that position. When did you ever hear me say that? On Tax Podcast. Absolutely you said that. You was like, yo, he can't rap better than me, which could be a fact. That used to be me. People come up to me all the time and say,

when you was in that position, Beans, things was better. It wasn't like that. So that's a hater Or me Giving some advice To somebody To move a little different Did you Did you Did you not also hear me say

I don't want you to make The same mistakes I did So is that me Schooling somebody Or sounding like a hater That sounds like No disrespect But

But then you disrespect them Especially Cause I mean Just for me personally When you say Meek not real Like oh Meek not a real person, he never been in the street, that's cool,

but like eight days prior, you was in the studio with him. Yeah, so, yeah, that's why I said that. You sitting back, like I told people,

don't let the media, social media, make up your mind. You going by from what you just saying. You don't know what conversations transpired before that, what events transpired before that. What events transpire before that. And like I said before, I jump out the window

for somebody who ain't gonna even walk out the door. You got to prove yourself, bro. That's what I meant by that. Like, if you got into something and you come and get me, yo, we got to go do this. Hold up. Because I know what I'm gonna do. Got you. But why ride for

somebody you don't think real? Because it's bigger than that particular person. It's for the city. I'm for my city in a whole. So he's a part of that. A very important part of the city. It's not about me hating on me. I f*** with me totally.

But when you do something, man it's like man so like i said before i jump all the way out in the wind because i know what i'm gonna do on another level like it's two levels to say it ain't about music it's about that and it's about so what exactly was the you ain't qualified to ask me that question. You ain't qualified to get that answer, bro. Let's rewind it. The game came up here and he did a diss record going at Meek. And then we heard a Meek record and we heard you on the record. Yeah.

So we thought that, I mean, I think the world thought that you were jumping with Meek and starting to go at game. So what happened there? Why did you jump on that record? For my city. But you and Game were cool. Yeah. Because it's music. Come on, man.

Just think about it. Game and Meek. It's music. Ain't not going to transpire from that. But then Game said that. Yeah, a few days later you called him and apologized. No, that's bullshit. Call Wack on the phone. Get him on the phone that you call get

him on the phone my question to them is you standing on what you're saying like i don't want to keep reiterating this because i think i i clarified that once conversations was going back and i asking the brother yo is this real because you can get straightened out on a different level. Right, right. So when you say stand down and, all right, well, go ahead. You handle that. But then when game come back and it's like, yo, we got to do this. No, we ain't got to do shit.

You got to handle that, bro. You know what I mean? You're dealing with two people. You're dealing with Mack and you're dealing with Beanie C. So when I see, oh, this is some Beanie C. I can go in the booth and slaughter him up. With the records being said, we've seen you at the console, and people

assume that you were helping them write raps. Did you ghostwrite any of those lyrics? A few of them, yeah. For both Meek and O'Meally? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just the whole situation seems shaky. I know you say I'm not qualified to speak on it. You're not.

I'm just observing it. But it just seemed like, you know, loyalty with you lies with who's providing you opportunity at the time. Get the f*** out of here, Charlamagne, man. Provide me what loyalty? With who? He ain't provide me no opportunity. He ain't call me and ask me to do that. I did that.

I walked into me. Wasn't even there. It was just O'Malley in the studio. So how did he call you to the studio? No. Meek called you to the studio? No. It wasn't no call. Somebody told me, uh, Lil' Choc, Meek Cousin, yo, O'Malley in the

studio, they recording something. I go in there, oh, this is what y'all doing. I wasn't even gonna get on the road. X, Y, Z, help you, nah, you gotta do this, bro. Say this. I went in and referenced the track for him and they just kept that part in there with my vocals two bars that's all i said i don't even think it was a whole two bar maybe even a bar so i just kept my voice in there all right but i didn't get no phone call matt come help come ride come do that that ain't go down they're in the

studio i went to the studio. What's the situation? But is it true that you said that you just wanted to get next to him because he wasn't returning your call about a concert or something? It wasn't, see my word, I might have said it wasn't about that. Cause that's what made me be like, that's kind of, that's real snake. If you wanted him

to do the show. Nah, nah, nah, nah. He didn't want to do the show, he was like, let me get next to him. It ain't about that if you listen to it. The show that he had that people wanted him to do, it was a... When I realized it, why he didn't want to do it after the fact, he didn't want to do the show because the game was on the same bill. Now, with Snake, knowing I didn't hear the 92 part,

if I would have heard that, I would have said, all right, you can't do that. But you know this dude just big me up in a record, shouted me out crazy. You knew that. You know I didn't hear that. So you didn't hear the record at all before? At all. Okay. So if I tell you, if I tell you, Charlamagne, take this ride with me,

and then we wind up going somewhere, and then this happened, you're like, what the fuck? You walk me? Why you? Got you, got you. Okay. So we're snake-ish. That or that?

Answer that. That's snake-ish. Yeah. All right, then. Absolutely. Now what happens, because like you said, there's Beanie Siegel, and then there's Mac, right? We thought it was Beanie Siegel.

We thought it was rap. Then you get to a performance and somebody steals you. So now where is it now? Because it's no longer. Hey, man, listen. Now, I'm a rap fan. I'm qualified to answer this one. As a rap fan, I don't want to see violence between brothers.

But I also want to see Beanie Segal be the Beanie Segal that we've heard he's been all these years. But then the other side of me is like, we all grown now. I don't want to see that. So where does it stand? I got my moments. I got my moments. If I was going to do what Mack wanted to do, you wouldn't hear no records from me. Come on, Charlamagne.

You know me. You didn't see me a hole in the walls. Absolutely. Unexpectedly. That's why I was shocked that somebody would test you in philly i mean it can happen to anybody anybody anywhere but in philly but i was surprised you were by yourself philly yeah because i've seen you when back in the day the rockefeller beef and the rockefeller mixtapes if you were by yourself yourself, you had a Mac on you. Yeah. Or you had 30 niggas. Nah, I had state property with me.

I was surprised that you were by yourself, knowing that you were going there, knowing that he was there, knowing what it was. He's harmless, though. Me, harmless. He harmless. He harmless. But what about a dude that you got into it with?

Harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. He was harmless. into it with? Harmless. He didn't see. See, you only seeing what you saw. You didn't see what transpired from there. I wasn't by myself. It was two of my bros. You know what I mean? He's 5'2", but you let him tell her he's 6'4".

He was trashed by the little 5-footer. So the embarrassment set in. You had every opportunity to do what you wanted to do. And my face. That's the only way you wanted to do. And my face, that's the only way you can get that off on my back turn. Can't get that off on my face. And the situation is sticky because it's close.

It ain't like it was one of me. This is family. However way you choose to word it or what do you want to say, it's too close, man. Alright, well we got more with Beanie Segal when we come back. Don't go anywhere.

It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, Charlemagne the God here, and I just want to wish a Merry Christmas to all my credit card scammers out there. This is the season to find you a scammer friend so you can save some money in any major department store in America.

The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, Beanie Siegel's in the building. He's clearing up some things. He's clearing up his beef with Meek Mill. Also, The Game.

Now, Charlamagne? So what you hate about the rappers is the feminization of the rappers. Do you? I let people do them, man. It's not my era. You bulls**t. It ain't my era. You gotta say what's politically correct. No, I don't. Never. I just don't. I don't care.

Like, to be honest with you. That's sad, man. You got children? Yeah, two daughters. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. The thing with it is, one thing out of this whole situation that I appreciate is the fact that bars are coming back. Yeah. I told you that when you sent the record. I was like, this is what the game has been missing.

And not just with you, with Meek. Meek spit a freestyle on Flex that was dope. Game spitting. Like, that's what the game has been missing. Yeah. Bars and people, like, really putting thought into their lyrics. Mm-hmm. You know, and that's the one thing that made me say,

I'm glad this happened because I haven't heard from Beanie the way that I wanted to hear from Beanie in years. Yeah. You said you wasn't going to do no diss records, though. Yeah, I wasn't. Yeah, that was before I heard the front master flex. Oh, okay. Yeah.

It makes sense when you put it all together. Yeah. You know? But what did he say on the Flex thing that really pissed you off? Because I didn't catch it. Shut up, man. What's up with this dude? I didn't mean...

Man, stop playing games, man. He threw one at Drake. He threw one at Mac. He threw one at Game. He was throwing... Stop playing, man. So when somebody throws one at you, you come with three hard ones. You going to win that?

Because it was like a situation that happened to him. I got every right to say, you know what? And do me. And you ain't going to be able to stand that, man. Whoever. Do you feel like you bought this on yourself, though, by being in the studio with Meek? If you say Meek wasn't real to this whole time,

you know he wasn't the official. It don't matter. No, ain't no... Half of these motherfuckers in the music business ain't real. So why be around him? So it ain't about Meek, because he's from Philadelphia. That's why.

He represent Philadelphia. He the voice for Philly right now. That's why. That's why I be around him. That's why. He like a target He the voice for Philly right now. That's why. That's why I be around him. That's why. He like a target because of the young fly in it with the bad chick. Regardless if he real, if it's facade, who cares? So if it don't matter, then why go in on him on a tax podcast

and keep repeating that he not real if it don't matter? Because the incidents that occurred. That that's why a chain of events if it wasn't for that then i wouldn't did that you never spoke to him after that though you never had a conversation after the whole game incident because it seems like you're all from philly yeah after after the game thing we had a conversation and when that conversation transpired hes***. Over the phone to you? Yeah, it was over the phone. So now you got to stand on that. If I felt the disdain in my heart towards Youngin like I did,

it wouldn't be no music, man. Understand that. Wouldn't be no music. But you know, Philly's always had the reputation that y'all can't get along. So it's like right now, you just proving that point. Because you got Oskino over here talking about you. Meek doing this. It just seems like none of y'all can get along.

Let's talk about New York. Don't people go to beef in New York? Absolutely. Troy, I'm having this one. So, can New York get the fuck along? No. All right, so don't just make it a focal. Don't just make it a focal.

That's what destroyed New York, ultimately, though. All right, well, that's y'all. So, what do you hope to gain from the situation? Not gain, I guess. What do you hope for this to accomplish? What it accomplish? I don't have no ulterior motive. Come in, you the OG.

So if you the OG and you talking to the young'un, do you hope for Meek to gain some knowledge from this or what? Absolutely. That been our conversations prior to all this. Through all this, just giving the knowledge. Yo, don't make the mistakes I did. But I do feel like he's a punching bag right now. I feel like he's a target.

I don't know why they would think that, but they think he's an easy target. Because I see when people go, so many people have gone at Meek trying to knock off his character. From where? From everywhere. Anywhere? Well, you got to look at it. A lot of these rappers. You is who you is when you get off the steps.

See, I come from an era where Nick checked your background. I think he brought that upon himself. If Meek gets destroyed or he doesn't have a career in a couple years, that hurts the city of Philly. No, it don't. Because you got a lot of dudes in Philly that can rap. It'll just be a door open for somebody else to come from Philly. You don't think, after a while, it starts to look like your MO,

like when something don't go beans, way beans gets upset? We keep harping on that. Didn't we just answer that? Whether it was with Hov or now with me. That's personal, dog. That was personal. I explained that already. It ain't nothing about it.

It didn't go away. That was personal. Something between me and my brother. Live, familiar family. Would you think things are ever truly the same once you do that? Because people look at you like, I don't know if I can trust me. How you can't trust me? Because it seems like you just flip.

I'm a man about my life. Like, it's hard to trust somebody. Like I said, you know, I know I keep going back to this, but it's true. He was in the studio with me eight days prior. Did we or did not just answer that? But you knew he wasn't real. You said he wasn't. You didn't think he was real. He was in the studio with me eight days prior. Did we or did not just answer that? But you knew he wasn't real. You said he wasn't. You didn't think he was real when you was in the studio with him. Alright, put it like this.

Is Kanye a street nigga? Absolutely not. Huh? But when Kanye put that phone call in, you know the stories. Who was there? And he ain't a street nigga. But he part of that thing of ours. So I took penitentiary chances. He put the call and I was there. And he ain't a street nigga, but he part of that thing of ours. So I took penitentiary chances.

He put the call and I was there. Strapped tooth to nail. Because he a part of our family. You understand what I'm saying? No. How you don't understand? Because, you know why? Because you not from that cloth. That's cool. I don't get it. You not. That's why you don't understand that.

That's like the average dude. Is it a difference between saying somebody's not a street and saying somebody's not real and a sucker. That's the difference. There's a difference between being street and real. Kanye's real. When you portray yourself in a certain light, like you're going to go all the way right there, and you don't, I got to draw back.

So understand that. It don't matter if a person, well, he could be a square, but that's my man. That square, that's my man, and we play video games because that's what he do, and I want to come and I chill with him. If he got a problem here, Stone Cold Square, this ain't your Phil, young'un. I got that. That's what men do.

I'm just the type of phone like somebody I don't pretend to. That's just my thing. Because you're a character. That's why. It's the truth, though. You're a character, nigga. Life's too short to be wasting your time with suckers or people you think are suckers. So why I'm here then?

Because I think you're a sucker. So I should be out, right? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I wouldn't. I mean, that's me personally. I wouldn't sit in and have a conversation with a sucker. Yeah, you'll sit here and you'll badge a little girl, a little mama, until she cry. That's what you do.

I'm a coward. Me and you talking to each other now, a little mama, until she cries. That's what you do. I'm a coward. Me and you talking to each other now. I tell you, I think you're an hypocrite. You can think what you want. And I think you'll be coming off as a hater sometime. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.

Beanie Siegel is in the building. Now, what's next for you musically? That's the good thing that's going to come out of here. And that is bars. And, what's next for you musically? That's the good thing that's going to come out of it. And that is bars. And that's what I told you. It's good because we haven't heard Beanie Siegel in a while. And a lot of these kids don't know who Beanie Siegel is. And how is it recorded with one lung?

It's hard. Is it true you got to stop in between songs? In between bars sometimes. Twisted. Because we can tell you, even with your voice, you know, the voice is not the same. Does that bother you at all? Because it's not that same.

No, that's why you ain't hear no music from me because I couldn't embrace that. I'm used to going in the booth and going for four or five minutes straight. No breath. And had a lot of weight on me at the time. It was rolling like, this is my voice. So I couldn't hear me

because I'm used to me sounding a certain way i couldn't hear me and then you know i just had to embrace it like it is what it is this how this how i sound because even now when i hear you spit i have to get over the voice because it ain't the same it ain't used to yeah and you're listening to the bars it's the same bars but not the same voice yeah the content of music ain't gonna never change like i've been through too much than the average person i have been through too much that's the other thing too you named about four elements you were suffering from when you was on tax podcast does that not make you want to say you know what maybe i need to calm down on the street thing no not at all

because you wouldn't say that like you saying that because the incident that occurred, like I said, ain't nobody in their right mind going to stand straight in front of me and square off. You're going to catch an L. I do this. On either side, something up. You don't think you'll ever go out of the street thing? I'm out of it.

You heard it on the song. Every time I get out, they want to pull me right back in. I think we need to make a distinction between real and street. I think that sends the wrong message to the kids. I think there's a difference between being criminal and being real. You could be somebody like Kanye who's a real individual to himself. You know what he does.

Yeah. But this is just where I come from. This is just me. That's me. You wouldn't rock with me if I was to be something else. Tell the truth. Why not? I like growth. I like to see people evolve. I think it's whack when you stay in the same place and look stagnant. I think after a while

you look corny. Well, you seen over the weekend, you seen the picture that was posted. It was Ja Rule, DMX, and Hole. Yeah, I was a good pick. Now, what did you think about that? Because you've been around and seen all this shit that's going down. I was good. The last couple of days.

I was good. Same thing when you seen me and Jay on B-side. It was good. Have y'all talked since? Yeah. Something going to come out of that? I hope so. It'll be good for everybody.

They and them just did the bad boy tour. Rockefeller reunion tour. You've been making comments about the young rappers too. You don't think you should just let kids be kids? Because somebody let you be a kid once. Nah. Somebody need to talk to the kids. Somebody need to get them with the world.

What do you think about it? I don't... The braids, the dreads. That's women. Like when men started doing that you had you had people in the back of the day like uh doris clinton different is good it's good but when you get to the point where as though it's blatant i shouldn't have to explain to my son why two men kissing on tv i shouldn't have to explain to my son why people wear, men is wearing high heels. Would you want to explain that to your son?

Nah, and I don't want to explain to my son why dudes on Instagram with guns either. We saw you on the ground with two guns up. Like, criminalization, criminalization, neither one is good. How that's criminalization? They was props. I mean, I hear you talk about the kids clothes

you did the state property clothing line I remember an interview you did where you said they got the little compartments to hide your guns and hide your dope that looks crazy when you think about it what's up what's up man

so when is the new project coming out and are you staying independent what's the future for Beanie Seal I might do a double CD What's up, man? So when is the new project coming out? And are you staying independent? Are you signed? What's the future for Beanie Seal? Man, I might do a double CD. I have this music coming out. I'm going to get back to the other music, though. I just had to load up a clip on that side just in case.

Hip-hop. So what happens is Nick calls you and be like, yo, Mac, what's up? Let's squash this. Put the phone call on. I sit there and talk about it. It's just that simple? It's that easy. But in your mind, you still think he's not real.

He's a sucker. You just keep saying that. I'm not going to let you put words in my mouth. You keep saying that. You said that. Regardless. I'm not putting words in your mouth. You said that.

Regardless. Why you keep harping on that? We saying that. You said that. Regardless. I'm not putting words in your mouth. You said that. Regardless. Why you keep harping on that? We answered that. So don't talk out in that because you want, if you're saying you want unity, stop, keep doing that, man. Don't stop playing with me, man. It's confusing, my brother. It ain't confusing.

It's confusing to you because you don't know the severity of the situation. If you do a two and a half hour record. You don't know the severity of the situation, man. But it can't be that. It's too to you because you don't know the severity of the situation. If you do a two-and-a-half-hour record. You don't know the severity of the situation, man. But it can't be that. It's too close to home. It's too close to home. We'll see. Like I said, I don't know.

I might not pick that call up. But we'll see. Right. I mean, that'd be the better move. That'd be the smarter move for me. I don't want to walk a track in somebody's presence the rest of my life. Right. I don't want to do that. So that's prison the rest of my life. I don't want to do that.

So that would be what Beanie Seagull should do. Like I said, it got what Mack want to do, but what Beanie Seagull want to do is just that. And I was curious, did you speak to Game or Drake? Like one of those things that's like, here's a verse. But now it hasn't been that way. What do you mean? The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah.

I can't do that, man. That's being a sucker. I couldn't do that. I got to see how that play out. Okay, so you wouldn't take a verse from Drake or a verse from Game going at me? Nah. That'd be totally corny. And that's some bullshit.

And that might be good for me. I don't know about game. I mean, but Drake the biggest thing I ever had. What do you think of game? In the stuff he does? It don't matter what. Put it like this. I know who went in L.A.

I know who went in L.A. Anybody can be anybody behind music. I know my conversation with Game and Wack. It was stand down. That's it. I know my conversation with Game & Wack. It was stand down. That's it. Well, I know I'm not qualified to speak on this, but you can understand how some people don't think what you're doing is all the way solid.

You might not think that, but you're not qualified, dog. You're right in your personality, man. You don't come from my world. You don't come from... You wouldn't understand my world. You don't come from my world. You don't know nothing, you wouldn't understand my world. You don't come from my world. You don't know nothing about that, man.

Nah, I don't. Yeah, stop running your f***ing mouth, man. And I don't want to. Stop running your f***ing mouth. You shouldn't. It's dangerous. It's dangerous. No doubt.

You're talking about somebody who went to war with police. It's dangerous. Attempting murders in the height of my career. It's dangerous. You don't know nothing about that, man. No. You sit up here and your job is to play games. But play with something safe, man.

Don't play with me. Alright. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning. Out of every shiny nose. morning. You are a donkey. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day.

So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey man, hit it with the e-bar. It's a breakfast club, bitch. Who's donkey of the day today? Yes, donkey of the day goes to Cat Williams. Cat pack all day. ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahem, ahcation with a little boy. Now, they say in seventh grade, okay? When I say little boy, I'm thinking maybe eighth grade. At the most, tenth. All right? Now, first of all, why was Cat Williams hanging out at what appears to be a school?

Why? No security, no manager, no assistant. You just at the school posted for what? You're not picking up new kids. You're not doing no community service. So what in the hell were you posted up at a school posted for what? You're not picking up new kids. You're not doing no community service. So what in the hell were you posted up at a grade school for? You just randomly at recess? That's number one.

Okay. Number two. Want to buy a vowel? Number two, Cat Williams sucker punched that little boy and couldn't even knock him out. Now, I know y'all saying he had no business punching that little boy. And I would have to say depending on the circumstances, okay? Oh, stop it. In this case, I don't think it was justified, but I can understand.

The little boy was all in his grill, all in his personal space. Cat Williams could have just told the boy, back up off me. But like I always say, you never know how someone's going to react when you do something to them. Little boy was in Cat's face. Some of us would have chose to tell the little boy, back up, give me 50 feet. Some of us would have pushed the little boy back. Some of us may have just walked away. Cat Williams chose to throw a punch.

Now, I can't say I agree or even maybe disagree with him in this situation. I'm just mad that a 42-year-old man can't knock out a child. All right, Cat Williams had a close range sucker punch, hit him flush on the jaw, and that little boy wasn't even tickled. That little boy wasn't moved at all. In fact, the little boy proceeded to wrestle Cat Williams to the ground. Cat Williams was manhandled by a kid. All right, he got little boy handled.

The young'un put Cat Williams in the Chris Benoit crippler crossface, and then Cat proceeded to give us some great ad-libs. Can we hear a little of the tussle, please? Mm-mm-mm. You know what to do there. Are you ready? You can stop me on the point, or you can get your... a little of the tussle please you know what to do look get off look get off

look no baby tell me that's your child Look, get off. Get off. Look. Look. No, baby. Tell me that's your child. No, he at least first, bro. That's what happened back up off me, little boy. I got sons. Hey, what's up, bro?

It's all good, bro. Can't you off you to hit him like that? Huh? 10 hours. You did. You started that. He was out of it. But you was out of his face.

He told him what's real. But you was out of his face, right? You were out of his face. Get up, man. He told me to walk through. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time.

We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. We the same time. As a community, y'all let a little boy begin to do that

to a celebrity. Sure. As a community, y'all let a little boy do that to a celebrity. He said, we the same time. That tussle is so amusing

because Cat Williams punched a little boy but he quickly realized he was in over his head. He went from get your dumb ass out my face to really little boy.

Really? You know the type start a fight and when they get your dumb ass out my face to really, little boy? Really? You know the type, start a fight, and then when they start getting their ass washed, it turns to chill out, stop, you're going too far. I can't be mad at the little boy for defending himself. That's what he's supposed to do to a 42-year-old grown man, okay? Grown man put their hands on you and they not your daddy? Do what this young man did. Put him in the Bob Backlund cross-faced chicken wing.

Or maybe it was the million-dollar dream. Whatever the move was, Cat Williams tapped out. Let me tell you something. When you get beat up by a little boy and you got a little boy at home, your kids won't

respect you anymore. How? As a parent, you got to threaten your kids, especially your little boys and tell them, I brought you

into this world and I will take you out. But when they realize that you really can't take them out because you can't even take out this little seventh grader

that's his age and his realize that you really can't take them out because you can't even take out this little 7th grader that's his age and his size that you sucker punched? Jesus Christ, man. Can I hear a little bit of the tussle again? Just a little bit. Just a little bit. That's a community. Y'all let a little broke dig in do that to us. I love you. Maybe this was a sketch.

And we're all being punked. You know what pissed me off? First of all, finances don't mean nothing when it comes to fist fighting, okay? You think because I'm broke, I won't put the beats on you. And how you financially flexing on a seventh grader. That little boy isn't St. West or Blue Ivy. Why would he be balling in the seventh grade for you to even try to justify that ass whipping with money? It shows how much of a sucker you are, Kat.

And you asked the wrong question. The question shouldn't be, y'all let a little broke boy jump on a celebrity like that. You should have been asking yourself, why am I a rich celebrity risking my freedom and my finances because you're going to get sued. Why am I risking my freedom and my finances fighting a little boy? This Cat Williams story is not going to end well, people. And once again, to all you idiots

who love to defend Cat Williams' donkey ass, please remember, it's not the media. It's not the Illuminati. This is nobody's fault but Cat Williams. Please give Cat Pack all day the biggest hee-haw, please. Now, I guarantee you when Cat Williams is asked about this, he's going to say, y'all know I couldn't beat up no little boy, even though he swung on him first.

No, he definitely couldn't. He might say after he swung on him, he realized it was a little boy, so he fell back. Yeah, right, Cat. No, yeah, that little boy had him choked up crazy. I know his parents are very proud of him, whoever his little boy's parents are. Cat Williams sitting on the ground, breathing hard, reevaluating his whole life. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Man, I thought I was in jail. Stevie J. I did. I thought you were in jail. No, I'm not in jail. You know, I got a bracelet on, but I ain't in jail. Oh, so thought I thought I was in jail. Stevie J. I did. We know it was jail. No, I'm not in jail.

You know, I got a bracelet on but I ain't in jail. Oh, so they put you on house arrest. What you on house arrest for? I mean, the child support thingamajig. Thingamajig.

I remember you did the video. It sounded like you was like saying you was about to go away. They wanted to lock me up but, you know, thank God they didn't lock me up. I'm out here with my kids

so I'm happy. How much did you owe? They said you had a million dollars. You paid everything. Yeah? They said you had a million dollars. You paid everything. Yeah, they said I owed a million and a half, but it's looking like nothing close to it. You know what I'm saying?

But we're going to take care of that and keep it pushing. How do you get to a million and a half? How do you even get to that number? Because, you know, they had the default judgment against me like I was Kobe or something for like $15,000 a month. Gotcha. It wasn't really that number, so they found out the right number. So it's looking more like under a hundo.

See, is that the curse of reality TV? Because it's a lot of fame that comes with it, so I guess Big Mama think you got it like that? Yeah, I think it's just the curse of the 90s being hot in the early 2000s and everybody think you're getting $50 million off of the royalty. Yeah, I got you, got you, got you. You was walking around with furs every other day. Yeah, yeah, I mean, the money was good,

but it wasn't once in 15,000 a month in child support. Yeah, you ain't ever shoot no jump shots. No, never mean, the money was good, but it wasn't once in 15,000 a month in child support. Yeah, you ain't ever shoot no jump shots. Nah, never. Never shot no jump shots. All right, now let's discuss this because I saw

the ultimate baby shower over the weekend for Jocelyn, but you weren't there. Nah. But you were just with Jocelyn the other day. Wait, is that your baby

first of all? I mean, we're going to see. Can't you get a test while the baby's still inside? Yeah, we did that. Results come back tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow. Damn, you should have came tomorrow then.

Hello. Tomorrow the results come back. I wasn't there, you know. I mean, she was all good just a week ago. It was. I saw you. She was cooking for you. Yeah, you know.

And then her brother went with me to the gym. He came by my house and he came by my house and saw one of my artists leaving and told her it was Tommy. You know how her and Tommy. Don't get me wrong. Her and Tommy was having sex with each other, right? Yeah. I missed that.

He said, I missed that. But, you know, he told her it was Tommy, but it wasn't. You know what I'm saying? So her brother's supposed to be cool with you. He just went back and. After we went to the gym, I dropped him off at the mall. He like, yo, Tommy was at the house and just started her to wiling, you know what I'm saying? For no reason.

And you shouldn't do that when she nine months pregnant. So do you even love your sister to do some fire stuff like that? Stevie, you ain't got to lie to us now. I understand that's the good lie to tell. But Tommy, you're all in the trailer for your new show. That's like my niece, you know what I'm saying? Oh, that's my niece. Whoa.

He didn't even say sister. She dates my nephew, that's why. Oh. Yeah, Scrap is in jail, you know what I'm saying? She dates him. It's like, we dates my nephew, that's why. Oh. Yeah, Scrap is in jail, you know what I'm saying? She dates him and is like, we're just family. That's it. Scrap is in jail. Yeah.

But knowing that Jocelyn doesn't like him, is it weird that you would be cool and... Or even have a rail? Business is business. Really? So she could be cool with people that you don't mess with. Yeah, she mess with a whole bunch of clowns I mess with. Now, well, what clowns? Because we heard you didn't like Young Dro. Okay.

Who was that? Young Dro was running around with Jocelyn, and I saw he said, I'm here for whatever you need. He had posted. Man, listen, man. But let me ask you this. In an ideal world, she wouldn't run around. In an ideal world.

With people you don't like. And you wouldn't run around. Men got to take care of their own children in an ideal world before they try to take care of other people's. So you're saying Young Joro don't take care of his kids? That's what I'm saying. Well, remember, Young Joro FDB because his baby mom wouldn't let him see his child.

Yeah. Remember? All right. You know, I'm just blessed. Hey, what's up, Stevie, Savannah, Sade, Eva, Dorian, all my kids. Well, here's the audience of Young Joro. This is the guy that you don't claim not to know.

This is Young Dro. You're not going to be beefing with Stevie J, are you? That's one thing I told him I would not do. Okay. Do y'all get along? Because I know he's very protective. We don't know, you know. I'm from Atlanta, Georgia.

Me and I don't know Stevie J, like, period. You know, and I don't. But you know what, though? I think he texted my phone one time. He said what? He was like, yo, get at me with Steve. I thought, I wonder, was he calling me about, you know what I mean? I was like, I wouldn't do that, you know?

So you didn't hit him back? No. What are we going to talk about? I'm definitely not dating this girl, you know? I don't got nothing to talk about. Did you text him and say what's up? Yeah, I told him to hit me. But, you know, anybody text my phone, tell me to hit me, I'm like, who is this?

You know what I'm saying? I respond, you know, when people don't hit you back, I mean, you know. Disrespectful. Yeah, a little disrespectful. Do you, do you, do you, like, do you think

the baby's yours with Jocelyn? We'll see. You know what I'm saying? I'm hopeful, but, you know. Okay, so you hope, you hope that's your baby. I mean, I'm just hopeful that she have a healthy baby.

Right. Does the way you deal with women moving forward, like, has it changed? Because you blew Jocelyn up, you made her hot, and then she went out there and, like, started popping the poom-poom for a little bit. What's the other one? I can't think of the name. His baby mom. Mimi.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, me and Mimi have a different type of relationship. Like, she's one of my best friends or whatever. You know, definitely moving forward, it affects my relationship and how I deal with women. But, you know, I'm still be the good guy regardless. Now, come on, Steve. You really think you were the good guy in all these cases?

Yeah, absolutely. You don't take responsibility for any of the things that you did that may have been. I'm going to tell you why you're the good guy because you was always honest. I was honest. And then look at the money they make every year. But everything's not about money. If somebody thinks I'm just going to be with you, I love you, and then... Who thought that?

You don't think at any point... Which one of them thought that? You don't think Mimi might have really wanted to be with you? I mean, you know... That is one of your best friends. Seems like she did. She always comes back to you. You know, it seems like it, but you never know.

You know, I'm just happy that I did great for both of them. You don't think you're hard to date? I'm not easy, but you know, I'm a good guy, though. When I'm near, when I'm present, I'm near. You made Mimi and Jocelyn knock each other off. That's what was going on before the show started. You know what I'm saying? So that was real.

You know, a lot of this stuff is contrived, but not the Stevie J story. Now, you couldn't make The whole polygamy thing Work with everybody Be one big happy family Is this too much Cause you know one day One of them is more happy

Than the other one One of them get more Beefcake than the other one So it doesn't work that way In a perfect world It'd be great But that'll never happen Now what line do you use

To get all these girls To just start popping off With each other I mean I don't use a line Probably just pick up The guitar and sing to them And you know They like that

Show them the pe to them, you know. They like that. Show them the pecs or something. Now, what about Rick Ross? Because Rick Ross, it was rumored that Rick Ross was dating Jocelyn, too. I don't think it was true, but you know what I'm saying? Who, you know, they grown.

Let them do what they do. You know what I'm saying? You think you could be in a monogamous relationship? Hell no. Yeah, but right now, I just want to just love the money and love my work, and I'm happy about my new show. I'm just happy now I just want to just love the money and love my work

and I'm happy about my new show. I'm just happy that I'm working and able to provide for my family, my kids, my dad, my mom, my sisters and brothers. So that show was supposed to be you and Jocelyn originally. No, absolutely not.

You know what I'm saying? The first show was, you know, the name of the show was the Stevie J Project. So the first show, I chose the name Stevie and Jocelyn. You know what I'm saying? It could have just been Stevie J. Right. But originally that was chose to name Stevie and Jocelyn. You know what I'm saying? It could have just been Stevie

J. Right. You know what I'm saying? But originally that was the plan. Stevie and Jocelyn. Originally the plan was Stevie J. You know what I'm saying? I was nice enough. You know what I'm saying? That was your girl at the time. At the time. You know what I'm saying? Once things got a little disrespectful, it was like, you know, once again, business is business.

And she was calling you gay. And she said you watch gay porn. She did with molestation accusations or something. Which I feel like you can't just throw that accusation out. You can't come back from certain things. And that's one of the things you can't come back from. You know, the people from D-Facts was all at Mimi's house and all at my house.

Really? Yeah. You know, so they closed the case on August 5th. So they actually investigated because of Jocelyn? Yeah, just know what I'm saying? They closed the case on August 5th. So they actually investigated because of Jocelyn? Yeah, just because she said that. Wow. But you still did just recently try to go and make amends with her, with the baby on the way.

Even still, you know what I'm saying? I made amends, you know what I'm saying? And I got a lot of flack from, you know what I'm saying, my family. Like, how could you even want to deal with this chick after she said that about your daughter? It's just like... Even your own children were like, what are you doing? Yeah, right. So at the end of the day, it's just like, I did that in the same day she wanted to fight me.

Next day, she come on set wanting to fight me. So it's like, let me just leave that alone. So she did attack you where you physically, like, had injuries and everything? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She admitted to that, though. Right before the baby shot, she said she jumped on you. Right before the baby, right before the Sunday and Monday fought me. You know what I'm saying?

Like, come on. I know you were scared because you could have lost the baby. I mean, it's more or less like, why would her brother even put her in that situation and want to fight nine months pregnant? You know what I'm saying? What kind of guy is her brother? I mean, you know, obviously he's not that bright of a guy.

You know what I'm saying? You got to have no love for your family to want to lose a baby at nine months knowing she's high-risk and everything. Or even just to tell on another guy, guy code. Well, it's your brother. My brother better tell me.

But lie to your brother, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're going to lie to your sister. Right, no, not lie, but I'm saying, I'm not going to say he broke guy code from you. Yeah, yeah, he definitely broke guy code. He did. You can't tell on another man,

but if it's your sister. I would have approached Stevie first. Like, Stevie, who was that? But then, like this, but I'm not dating your sister. Right. That too. We are not together. We're not together. So you're just gossiping, basically. Just gossiping.

Alright, we got more with Stevie J when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Stevie J from Love & Hip Hop Atlanta in the building. Nayee? Yes, Stevie.

So we've been hearing about you and Faith Evans. You guys have been pictured together on the Bad Boy Tour. So are you guys really dating? You know what I'm saying? I've known her for almost 25 years. Bad Boy. Did you like her back in the day? Like back in the day when she was with Big?

No, it wasn't like that. It was just like we was all family. And then, you know, as years progressed, we just begin to hang out more and talk more. So is this new or new to us? It's new. Brand new. Yeah, it's brand new. So do you see a real future?

Like this could be the person I settle down with? I mean, I just feel that I shouldn't have crossed that line because once you cross that line, emotions really overwhelm, you know what I'm saying? Overwhelm me and her. What do you mean cross the line? Like have sex? Yeah. Once you start dating your best friend, it's a little different. Wow. You played a guitar for her? Yeah. She sang for me all the time.

You dating Biggie's wife? Biggie's ex-wife. Stop it. Widow. Do you ever wear condoms, Stevie J? Yeah. He's like, yeah. Do you have condoms on you now? Like, what's... I left my wallet. That's a story.

How do you decide whether or not you want to wear condoms or not? It's just like, you know, if I don't know the person, I'm just going to wrap up. So you... Okay. If I don't know you, you shouldn't even be in bed with somebody you don't know. If I don't know you for 25 years, I'm good. Why? Because I want...

Like, your family raises a good point. Why would you want to have kids with Jocelyn Hernandez? And we've seen videos of her wilding in the studio, looking like she's all on drugs. Yeah, I saw that too. Yeah, we don't know if she's mentally ill. So, like, why would you want to breed with Jocelyn Hernandez? Well, it just happened.

You know, it wasn't planned. Why do you say breed? That just seems so dogish. But it wasn't planned, though. It just happened, you know. And obviously, she knew it was going on, you know what I'm saying, before I did. But it is what it is. We just got to approach it the way we got to.

Especially if you think that she out there sleeping with a bunch of different dudes. That would have made me, if I did, he'd put a condom on at least. Right, right. But you know, that was probably at a time where we wasn't even, it's just a good night. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You never had an STD or nothing? No, I ain't got no STDs.

I'm not saying now. Did you ever have one? Low chlamydia, low syphilis, low gonorrhea. You never had a crab? Oh yeah, I did. I did have the crabs one time. I was on the plane and I'm like What year was this? This was in 98.

Alright, that makes sense. I had to let somebody hold some of my stuff, and they wore it. You let somebody hold your drawers, Steven? What are you talking about? No, that's my story. You let somebody wear your drawers? What are you talking about? How close were the hitmen?

We need to know. What are you talking about? You said... My jeans and all that. So I had to shave my joint on the plane and all that. Oh, my God. It was crazy. So you never had threesomes with Tommy and Jocelyn, right?

No. So they was just... It was just something they was doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On their own. See what happens when you do stuff by yourself? Don't work out right. So how did Tommy end up on the show?

Was it because of your nephew? Yeah, my nephew, Scrap, and Sash. So you basically brought everyone on there. Well, you know, I just play a part in making sure everybody, you know, get paid. Sheesh. And what about production? You back to producing, working? Yes, absolutely.

I'm working on his Faith the King and I album. We almost finished. I'm executive producing with her. You know what I'm saying? And working on some new artists for Epic. Candice Boyd, working on my project. I'm just working, man. Kelly Price has just finished her project.

So I'm just back to doing what I love doing. I wondered about that, too, because you came up on some of the bad boy dates. Yeah. I don't know if it was on all of them, but I saw you on a few. A few of them, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Me and Puff just cooling, just talking, and he wanted me to showcase that musical talent instead of being in front of the television.

He felt like people needed to see me with a guitar in my hand. don't know how did they treat you like man it was all love okay all love so you feel like let's talk about your show okay who else is on it because we know the trailer hit yeah we got young jock on it we got scrappy on it we got faith on it we got tommy on it we got my children on it you know what i'm saying it's just man this sounds more like a peaceful yeah it's a peaceful family show it's like a family on it. You know what I'm saying? It's just, man. This sounds more like a peaceful. Yeah, it's a peaceful family show. It's like a Family Matters type show. You know what I'm saying? It's more or less away from the ratchet stuff and just into a happy space

with your mat right now because it wasn't so happy last year. Until Jocelyn has the baby and then you gotta do the DNA test. I mean, then I'm still gonna be happy because I'm just gonna He's gonna know tomorrow. Yeah, but you know I'm playing a lot of instruments on the show. More music, you know what I'm saying, singing and stuff. It's cool doing country-western shows. It's funny, you know what I'm saying?

Now, you told TMZ that if the baby is yours, you're going to seek full custody. Why? I mean, my thing is like this, you know. If you're not in your right mind to be fighting at nine months when you're pregnant and all that, I need a psycho evaluation. You know what I'm saying? I need to know what's up with you when that baby's born. I want to test the baby. I want to test I need a psycho evaluation. You know what I'm saying? I need to know what's up with you when that baby's born. I want to test the baby. I want to test you. You know what I'm saying?

If everything was on the up with us and she wasn't trying to fight me, I'd come to her in peace and she'd want to fight and vibe. But emotions run crazy when a woman's pregnant. You can't. You got to think about the baby instead of your emotions. She's squared up with you on some... She's just punching me in my face and my crib,

and I'm telling her brother, yo, just get her out of my crib, and he's just standing there like... You know what I'm saying? I just want to make sure that the baby is good. You know what I'm saying? Maybe having a baby will change her, though, because that does happen for a lot of people.

Well, you know, you having strippers at the baby shower and all that, and then you got the cake, and you asking dudes, yo, you want to eat the titty on the cake? How about you eat the pussy on the cake? Come on. See, this is interesting, though, because when a person shows you who they cake, and you asking dudes, yo, you want to eat the titty on the cake? How about you eat the pussy on the cake? Come on. See, this is interesting, though, because when a person shows you who they are, believe them.

We've been seeing this, Jocelyn, for years. I thought that it was going to change due to the baby and all that, but, you know, it is what it is. You think it's an age difference? I didn't realize she was just 30. I mean. You like 15 years older than her. Yeah, I'm 13 years older than her,

but, you know, at the end of the day, 30 is still 30. You know what I'm saying? You're not 15. It's not an excuse. You're not 18, you know? And then I showed you a great life. Why would you want to disrespect a guy that made your life a full circle? You know what I'm saying?

Looked at you as a woman and treated you as a woman, not just, you know, somebody. That's the problem, man. When you fuck a girl and teach her something Right Which you clearly did Right And then she turns around And disrespects you It's crazy to me You know what I'm saying?

But did you do If I was her I'd be kissing my feets You know what I'm saying? I'd be rubbing my feets In my toes How many times How many times

You think you've told her In your life I made you Have you ever I've never said that to her You know what I'm saying? It's more or less like You know what I'm saying?

And then she emailed me You know, I'm saying It's more or less like You know what I'm saying And then she emailed me You know I appreciate Everything you've done for me And my career And now this baby And then the same breath You out there having Dudes throw

Papers in buildings Saying I'm a molester And all this But you emailed me That's an awful accusation I actually thought Like that's probably The worst thing you could say

About somebody You know but I'm glad To have friends like D-Dot and Ed Woods who just keep me calm and allow me to use my brain rather than emotions. You know what I'm saying? Dealing with situations. How do our emails look? I mean, it looked like somebody wrote them up for us. You know what I'm saying? Too good. It's too good.

Dramatically correct. I'm like, damn, did our lawyer do this or something? You know what I'm saying? But, you know, at the end of the day, I'm not going to believe those emails when, you know what I'm saying, you got somebody running around with a monkey mask on in Atlanta throwing these documents in the office buildings. What kind of stuff is that? They said that she destroyed $65,000 worth of your stuff. What did she destroy? She cut up my minks, my bad boy jackets, all my shoes.

She just destroyed a lot of clothes, Versace dishes. She just, you know, destructive. So you ain't gonna have her back in the crib no more? Nah. I mean, if she's your baby mama. I mean, I'd rather just keep it at a distance. I don't need to know where she lives. She don't need to know where my new crib at. I just meet each other at Chick-fil-A. I have somebody go pick up the baby

and that's that. Alright, we got more with Stevie J when we come back. We'll update you on his relationship with Mimi. And when's the last time you spoke to Eve? We'll find out when we come back. We'll update you on his relationship with Mimi. And when's the last time you spoke to Eve? We'll find out when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

You need to cut it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Stevie J from Love & Hip Hop Atlanta in the building. Now, when Mimi was being fake gay for TV, do it this. No, she's gay in real life.

She has a girlfriend now. Because of you. No. I definitely have been heard. Okay, all right. I've been heard about Mimi. You know something I know? Okay, all right.

Tell me what you know. Tell me what you know. There you go, Cindy. There you go, Cindy. I know a lot of people in Atlanta, and they all say, even when it's your first study, you know she likes women.

She was with Jocelyn before the show. But yeah, but I pioneered that. Okay, you started that? Yeah. Okay. Stevie J, do you make all your girls go by? I mean. Not Faith?

Nah, she's a real woman. She's beautiful. She older, though. But you know, I have some old joints that, you know. Never tasted the shit until they met you? Yeah, exactly. But you know, I don't. It's just their choice. But at the end of the day, but you know, I don't, it's just their choice,

but at the end of the day, I just like, I used to like to have a lot of fun, but now, you done calmed down. Yeah, now you getting older.

Two women, it'll take a lot to do two women. It didn't just, what I went through with the Toe Jocelyn thing, it's just like, yo,

come on. Scared straight. Yeah, enough is enough. You really thought she could have been a star, a musician? I mean,

it's not even that. See, my thing wasn't as a musician, it was like loving hip hop, so I going to be a star, a musician? I mean, it's not even that. See, my thing wasn't as a musician. It was like love and hip-hop. So I need to create this artist, you know what I'm saying? Give her something to do on the show. Yeah, and then, you know, she had the look, and then she had the attitude, so it's like, all right, boom,

I'm going to give you something that you ain't got to go take your clothes off. I'm going to try to do this music thing with you, you know what I'm saying? And that just allowed her to believe that she was Selena, you know what I'm saying? Come on. Now, do you still have a stake in her as far as management? Yeah, and I haven't been paid in years. And you know what I'm saying?

I wants my bread. Uh-oh. So you get a piece of her love and hip-hop checks too? I wants my bread. Oh, you waiting for the baby to be born? So when she come for that, you be like, I coming for this. No. Why haven't they paid you?

It's business. You know what I'm saying? Why haven't they paid you? It's business. You know what I'm saying? Why haven't they paid you? It's up to her to cut her the check and she's supposed to cut me my 30%. 30%?

Wow. That's mild because now they're doing 50-50 deals. What is these deals these artists doing? 50-50. 360 deals.

For reality shows? For music and everything. I mean, television is a little different. But you're not a label. I am. I'm a full-on entertainment company.

I am. You know what I'm saying? I got her signed to Viacom three weeks after she signed the contract. A six-year deal. Who does that? You know what I'm saying?

You're not even who I am. You know what I'm saying? How long is your deal for? You know, I just accumulated a few more years. You know, semi-terminus Sherman Hemsley on TV and all that. You know what I'm saying? How long is your deal for? You know, I just accumulated a few more years. You know, so I might turn into Sherman Hemsley on TV and all that. You know what I'm saying? I got a great deal.

So she got different shows coming out. Like, she might have her own reality show. She got a special about the baby and all that that I'm not a part of, though. But she's got that. I help pioneer that, too. Right. What if she's like... Little do you know, I want my 30%, too.

Oh, my God. You're going to have to sue somebody, I see. Well, you know, that too. Right. What if she's like... Little do you know, I want my 30% too. Oh my God. You're going to have to sue somebody, I see. Well, you know, that's already done. What if she's like, okay, we can be peaceful. I won't come at you for this.

Just let me get out of my contract. I need my bread. That bread's going to outweigh anything I got to give her. What does your daughter say now that you have custody and she's, you know, 17, 18? She's just like,

yo, don't have her over here. You know what I'm saying? And just keep her over there. If the kid's yours, then we'll just do what we do with the baby. But, you know, she doesn't really feel it because of all the stuff that she was saying about her little sister. Right. You know what I'm saying? None of the kids feel her.

Now, one of your oldest sons, Dorian, was on Instagram freestyling saying you an absentee father. I mean, I don't see that. You know what I'm saying? Maybe he was in his emotions at the time. You know what I'm saying? Maybe he was in his emotions at the time. You know what I'm saying? I just saw him at Eva's birthday party. He hugged me, said he's sorry, he loved me. And, you know, he came, we ate dinner.

But, you know, I would never steal from my father. You know what I'm saying? And it was an instance where he stole a lot of equipment from me, and I had to distance myself. How old was he? 21. Damn. Oh, so he? 21. Damn. Oh, so he a grown man.

So he not even a kid no more. You can't even forgive him like you would forgive a child. Right, right. You know, I just forgive him, but you're not in the trust fund no more. Damn. So you really don't rock with him.

So it's not like you would have to. I do rock with him, but you got to come to the table right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And let's just take that away because I don't owe you anything. I did what I did. Now you're 22 and you got a kid.

I take care of you and your kid. Now you have to show me that you can get a job. Once you get a job, then maybe we can talk about the trust. Is that a convo you had with him? Like, look, you're on Instagram talking about him as his father.

You stole from me. You know I don't rock with you. He know what he did. You know what I'm saying? Certain things don't have to be said, but you know what I'm saying? I still love him, but sometimes you got to show that tough love.

I would never steal from my father. Stevie J done had a rough past couple of years. Yeah, but you know, it only makes me stronger. I'm happy. When's the last time you seen Eve? Oh, man. Eve is watching this like, I really hope my name does not come up yet again. Again.

No, we cool. She follow me on social media now. We cool. Really? Yeah. I mean, what is there to be mad about? You never said nothing bad. I never said nothing bad about her. And you know what I'm saying? And you guys really did date. It wasn't a secret.

And it was a great relationship. And I helped her get a Grammy. And it was the best record she ever made when I produced it with her. You know what I'm saying? He says the best record she ever made. Yeah. Okay. Facts.

What record was that? You know, the Scorpion joint with the Gwen Stefani joint. We won a Grammy for that joint. Let me blow your mind. Yeah, I wrote that. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, you good, man. I wrote damn near Scorpion joint with the Gwen Stefani joint. We won a Grammy for that joint. Let Me Blow Your Mind? Yeah, I wrote that. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, you good, man.

I wrote damn near the whole album with that. So many credits. You know what I'm saying? It's like, so who's that guy, Young Flo? What's his name? Young Dro. I'm like, put his accolades next to mine. Put his, you know, anything he ever done, accomplishments next to mine.

You know what I'm saying? But y'all don't have no issues with each other aside from just because of this Jocelyn situation. I'm not just being here to say slick stuff. I'm in the gym, so, you know, the walls close in. They're going to have to be next to me. You know what I'm saying?

I've seen Stevie J fight before. Where? Charlotte, North Carolina. Did he win? Remember when he was at that party? Oh, I remember that. It was CIAA weekend. That wasn't a fight.

I got jumped, yo. That wasn't no fight. You know what I'm saying? No, I saw you helping somebody. I was mistaken. No, you remember that. It was CIAA weekend. That wasn't a fight. I got jumped, yo. That wasn't no fight. You know what I'm saying? No, I saw you helping somebody. I was mistaken. No, you was mistaken. I'm watching that whole shit go down. Now, my crew have fought somebody.

And Mimi was there, too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My crew have fought somebody. But I don't get involved in fights unless it's a one-on-one. And I got to, you know, wrinkle somebody's school clothes up. All right. But you and Joe can get over that, though. I mean, you know,

I ain't got nothing to say. Especially over a woman that you already know where she's staying. And he's saying that he never messed with her. Oh, was she late? Yeah.

Yeah, and he's saying he never messed with her and they just did some music together. He's on other stations, you know what I'm saying? He's on other stations saying this and that,

but you know, it is what it is. I'm just about this paper, man. You know what I'm saying? Okay. A new and improved Stevie J. Not really. just about this paper, man. You know what I'm saying? Okay. I'm new and improved, Stevie J. Not really. But okay.

No, really. All right. Hate about the creep life anymore? No, no, I'm done with all that. I just want to make sure I'm providing for my next three generations, man. I got my daughter living with me now, so my whole shit is different. All right, well, there you have it. That's tough.

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