The Breakfast Club - Best of 2024- BEST MOMENTS - Jordan Klepper, Bien, And Mega Millions Lottery Tickets Increase To $5 and Charlamagne Is Appalled Topic

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

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Not just me, I'm what the coach will fillet. Hey, Nadine, good morning. Get it off your chest. Where you calling from first? I'm calling from Dallas, Texas. Okay Dallas, what's up mama? I wrote a book. It's called How to Date a Fat Chick, A Fat Girl Died to Dating and I'll be so great guys. Kick it up and read it. How to date a fat chick? Yes, a heavy read is it thick like how many pages About your what my dating life. you're a big girl or duh don't don't that she might not be big no more it might be her past life she's writing about so it was hard it was hard for you to do it no it's a satirical look at my dating life which is the things that

i went through in the lessons that i learned along the way okay i'd love to read that i had a i had a home girl who wrote something like that before. It was called Dating While Fat. Oh wow. Well, yeah. It's on Amazon. So it's by Nadine Jones with this meme. And again, how to date a fat chick, a fat girl, back to dating. Okay. What category is it in? Food, home? Jesus. What is it? What category is it in? Home.

It's the how-to. It should be how-to. Go ask him. I don't know what category it is, but it's comedy I think, it's rhetorical. So just type it in, you'll find it. What's it called again? How to date a fat chick. So if a guy takes you out to eat, do you limit the food that you have so you don't look big? You gotta read the book.

You're right, I'm sorry. It came up as a cookbook. No it didn't. Shut up. No, How to Date a Fat Chick and That Girl's Guide to Dating by Nadine Jones. All right. I like the cover. I like that. I like that. It looks like a, what do you call that? A Cosmo? What do you call that book? A notebook. Yeah, whatever that is. Yeah, I like that. Composition. Composition. There you go. There we go. Well, you have a good one they do thank you you Good luck. Hello. Who's this? What's going on? Man? My name is super trucker, man. I'm out of Eastern North Carolina, man. I'm truck driver. What's up super trucker. How you feeling this morning, man? I'm good, man

I'm out here shipping gears making that black smoke. I'm out the bike. Okay. All right, what'd you transport? I do flatbeds from all the building materials the fight. Okay. All right. What'd you transport? I do flatbeds from Holland building materials right now Okay. All right. We'll be safe on the river. Yo, man. I just want to know man. Yeah, I got love for truckers man You damn right. I got love for truckers, you know, I know you do that Hey, look, I got a song called trucker love man. So y'all get a chance Check it out. It's on YouTube. You still got love for Trucker, Jess?

You knew he was going? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, blow that horn for us, brother. I got you. Bye. All right, man. Yeah. Be safe on them roads, brother.

Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up, Bim B? What's up, brother? What's up, Jess? How y'all doing? What's up, baby? Good, good. What's going on? Get it off your chest.

Yo, I'm mad at my brother, James. What's your brother do? He's... Yo, he set me up. I'm sick last night in Iffil-a-well. I'm at home, and he lied to his wife telling her that he was hanging out with me all night. And he wasn't. Oh, man. He ain't tell you that you were part of the lie. He ain't tell me

because I was dead into the world and his wife called my wife asking her what he was he with me. Oh man. What's your wife say? Yo she blew his spot up like hell no you want to see the cameras? Damn. She blew him up and he's calling me up to talk about, yo, you supposed to help me out. I'm like, yo, you should have told me first. I hate when somebody make you a part of the lie, but don't tell you about the lie. Like, damn.

Now he mad because he say that I'm the reason why his wife is putting him out. Now he wants to come and stay at my house. Oh, hell no. You not the reason. And your wife ain't going to let him stay. Your wife ain't going to let no cheating ass stand stay at my house. Oh, hell, no. You're not the reason, and your wife ain't gonna let him stay. Your wife ain't gonna let no cheatin' ass bitch stay at your house. Uh-uh.

I'm sending him over to you, Envy. Definitely not sending him over to me. I got a couple of dogs that'll make sure he stay out. I hear that, Envy. Yo, Envy, when you throw another mixtape out, man, come on. Stop playing. You be rapping? He talking about a DJ mixtape, Jess. Oh, I was like, okay, Envy. Jess, will you be rapping? You ain't gonna get that in a while, bro. Mix tape out man. Come on stop playing

Yeah, you don't get that in a while brother, you know, I it ain't gonna happen bro, ah, come on These are these artists a lot different man But back then I would say the artists really respected the DJ and really loved the DJ where mixes Yeah For something and they would be happy to do it glad to to do it, but now, I ain't playing a politics game, bro. Yeah, I know what you want, Red Cafe, man. Yeah, shout out to Red Cafe. Respect. Alright, bro, you have a good one, man.

Peace, Henry. Alright, bro. Get it off your chest, 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up.

Wake your ass up. This is your time to get up. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're man or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is Adrena. Get it off your chest, mama. I'm a little nervous. You need to go off to your chest, mama. I'm a little nervous, but I really want people to reach out to your friends and family, check

on them to make sure that they are okay. It's been almost eight months since I lost my soulmate to suicide. And when he committed suicide, we was on a break, but we were still very much in communication with each other. But I knew something was wrong, and my gut told me to go check, but my head said, no, don't do it. And had I listened to my gut,

I would have known something was wrong and could have been able to help. Also, with women and their children, when you have a man that wants to be in the lives of their kids, you shouldn't use the child as a pawn to get back. Because no one ever ever thought he would commit suicide because of what was happening with his children. So I just want people to just be aware of those things. Absolutely. Yes ma'am.

Well definitely sending you healing energy, Queen. Yes. Thank you. Absolutely. Alright mama, have a blessed day. You guys do the same. It's very heavy this morning. Crack a joke or something, Jess.

Okay so, you know damn character, you got some money? Hello, who's this? Hello, this is Blind Tommy. What's up, Blind Tommy? Blind Tommy. Get it off your chest. How y'all doing, man? I'm mad, because I'm a blind, broke comedian.

Are you, so you gotta pick one now. Which one you mad about, being blind, being broke, or being a comedian? All three. Well, you should learn to see the bright side. Damn it got the money to steal I think you might be looking at this wrong Oh, okay, okay. You are newly blind, you don't count. Damn, how'd you get blind, sir? So, fuckers got in my system and they attacked my optic nerves. Damn, sorry to hear that, bro. Have you learned any new skills? Have anything else scrimped?

A little bit, but not that too much. Got you, got you. How can we help you this morning, brother? What can we do for you? Whatever, we'll see what we can do, whatever it is. Damn. this morning brother, what can we do for you? Whatever, we'll see what we can do, whatever it is. But. Yeah. Shut up man.

You know how people ask y'all for books? Shut up man, can I get a book deal man? Can I work for you? You want a book deal? Yeah. I'm beyond what y'all, I'm interested in the story. I can't sit in and act like I wouldn't wanna hear more of the story.

What if he's talking about Braille books? Well, you wanna write? No, I'm talking about the Braille books. Oh. I hate this place this morning. I hate this place. Eddie, get my guys' information. I'm interested in hearing the story. I want to see if there's, it might be a story there. You never know.

Yeah. All right, hold on, Tommy. Okay? All right. Hold on, Tommy. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now.

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Good morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Lauren LaRose are filling in for Jess this morning. And if you're just joining us, we'll open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Unc is being unc this morning. How am I being unc? I'm just letting y'all know that

the Mega Millions is now $5 y'all. I can't be the only person in America that cares about this, you know what I'm saying? I've been playing my numbers for years. I mean, since Powerball came to South Carolina, back in the early 2000s, right? I remember when Powerball used to be a dollar and then Mega Millions came around.

I don't know if Mega Millions was a dollar or if it was $2. All I know has been $2 for years. So I go in the store and I play 5 Powerball, 5 Mega Millions. That's usually $20. Okay? That's usually $20. That is a fair price to pay for a hope and a dream. I went in there the other day and I said let me get 5 Powerball, 5 Mega Millions. She said that'll be $35. I said $35 why? I said I only want 10 tickets. She said mega million is now $5. I said what? I can't even afford to wish now? I can't even

afford to hope? They say you play the mega millions in the Powerball because hey you never know. I can't even afford to never know! Well let's up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. I don't gamble like that. I don't gamble in casinos. I only play the Mega Ball or the Power Ball or the Mega Millions. If the Mega Millions in the Power Ball, okay? You know what I mean.

The Mega Ball is what y'all used to do at Diddy parties. Hey, yo. That was extra-curricul activity at a Diddy party, a Mega Ball. I don't really, like every once in a while when it gets close to a billion, I'll play but I'm not on it like that what about you Lauren no never all right well let's go to believe in yourself yeah I believe in myself I'm the type of person that'll look at the

mega millions number or the powerball number and see that it's like one and whatever hundreds of millions of people win and I'm like I'll be that one person I always feel like it's an older. I always feel like as an older person and I always feel like they live in a place that I've never heard of. That's why I always do. They always get their ticket from a gas station. Well guess what? I always get them from the gas station and I am becoming as much as much older person. I'll be 47 this year. When am I eligible to win? 60. Hello who's this? This is Cheyenne. Cheyenne what's up talk to us. I play the Mega Millions Powerball Lotto every single day. The first time I walked in and I saw that Mega Millions was $5,

I almost dropped to the floor. I play every single day. Yeah, and the thing is, now that it's $5, you're not going to play as much, which they're still going to get their money, but then you're not going to be able to make as much money because you can't play as many tickets as you used to May say sir. I don't have as much hope you can't afford hope anymore, which is crazy Can't afford hope have you ever won sir? I have I've won 2500 I've won 100 I've won I've won thousands. I've won a

Multiple times but now it's like they're taking away those chances for you to be able to win. That's right. And it looks like I can only afford a couple tickets. The most I've ever won is $100. I always win like $2, $4 and I'm grateful for that because you know, it's baby steps. That lets me know I'm getting close to that jackpot. Yeah, absolutely. It's fun. Oh my goodness. Absolutely. It's fun to go in there and then say, okay, I've won, maybe I played $4, but I get my $4 back. Now I play $10 and then it's like, I only win $4,

I lost $6 and now you know, like I'm struggling now. Like, you know, I'm in a hole. Before I never felt like I was in a hole, now I feel like I'm in a hole every time I play. And this brother is absolutely right, cause I'm only gonna spend $20. I'm gonna buy, I'm gonna still buy my five power ball, but now I gotta reduce my mega millions the only two tickets

So that's decreasing my chances of winning mega millions. Hello. Who's this? Yes. How you doing? My name is Stacey Adams like the shoes Hey, Stacey Adams like the shoe. What's up, brother? Talk to us Okay, so listen everybody who knows me knows that I'm a lottery crackhead So I don't care if it goes to $20 a ticket. I'm playing no No, no, no, no, I'm dead serious I am dead yo I listen to y'all every morning I start my day at like 4 a.m. I got my own cupcake business yo Charlamagne I cannot believe I'm on the phone with y'all but yo when I heard about the lottery my crackhead came oh I'm sorry my crackhead side came on I'm like yo I got a call I am on

the graphics club that's crazy yes I actually won a lot actually like I never win like the big pot bowl or like the mega millions but I play like pick three to pick four. What's the most you won? I just won $23. Okay, so the most I have won was $1,008. Okay, and how much you think you spend a week? Oh, no. Oh, it's crazy. Like I said, I'm a crackhead. How much do you spend a week, man? Probably about, I spend like $30 a day.

Forget the week. I spend like $30 a day. $30 a day, which is what? Five days a week you spend? He's an entrepreneur though. He got his own cupcake business. Yeah, right. I got my own cupcake business. So I make that money.

Yo, I want to bring y'all some cupcakes. Like, I really do. What's your Instagram? We need a seat. What's your Instagram? Okay, got it. Okay, got it. Okay, got it. My Instagram is Stacy at C A C Y underscore famous F A M O U S underscore cupcakes. Thank you, sir.

Stacy, Eddie, put Stacy on hold. Get his information. Let Stacy bring his cupcakes up here. I'm telling you, man, this mega million thing is it's a travesty that's going on in our communities right now. $ dollars a ticket is ridiculous. It went from two dollars to five dollars with no warning. At least I wasn't paying no attention. Some of y'all need to call that number. The one eight hundred gambler. If you have a problem, please call this number. That man spent seven thousand dollars to eight thousand dollars a year. And he only won a thousand dollars. Yeah.

But the reality is what if that's his vice? Like, you know, like what if you don't, what if you don't buy nothing else? What if you don't buy like cars or, you know know spend his, what if that's what he wants to spend his money on? 1-800-GAMBLER I think that's the number. What's the number Lauren? Find it for us. 800-585-105 what if he's just joining us?

Unc was so distraught this morning. Charlamagne walked in he didn't know Powerball tickets the price went up. Not the Powerball the Mega Millions is five dollars man not the Powerball okay? Alright. And it is 1-800-GAMBLAMBLERS operated by the National Council on Problem Gambling. I don't gamble. I don't do the prize picks, the draft kings. I don't gamble. I don't gamble at casinos. I'm telling you, my gambling is limited to Mega Millions and Powerball tickets every day, every week. That's what I do. I don't gamble. I don't go to casinos, but I just gamble on my lottery. When you talking to your kids about this,

do you say you playing your numbers? Yes. You are so country. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with being country? You eat fat bag? No, hell no. I don't eat no pork.

No pork on my fork. I'm playing- 800-585-105-1. Are you destroyed? Like, oh, this morning, call us up. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. 505 one are you destroyed like this morning call us up as the breakfast club good morning morning everybody is DJ

Envy just hilarious Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building Yes, indeed Jordan clever. Yes. Thanks for having me. How you feeling? I feel real good Yeah, I love the way you came in here already because I was joking I was like you what six four and it's all about the really you women you said Charlemagne must be around six one I mean five one. I said five one five one I Charlamagne must be around 6'1". I mean 5'1". And I love it. I said 5'1". I said 5'1". You're about right. I was being generous.

In my head I was like, I'll make a joke about 4'6", but I'll give him a little bit more. I said 5'1". What did you say you were, Charlamagne? I'm 5'6". That's a goddamn lie. I'm like, you're 5'6". You are no 5'6".

5'6"? Actually 5'7", but I just say 5'6", to make people feel comfortable. Well, I feel... Whatever reason I say 5'7", they argue with me, so I just say 5'6". And even though you Whatever reason I say five seven, they argue with me, so I just say five six. And even though you said five six, I'm arguing with you right now, right?

Does that include, if the brim, if you put the brim way up, you're including the brim, right? But see, that's what I thought with you. I'm like, with the hair, you might be six, but I was thinking like six one. That is fair. The hair gives me an extra couple inches. That's how I'm gonna do five six with heels on.

That's what it is, that's what it is about five six. Well, you wear heels. How tall are you when you actually wear them? Okay, I'm six five, okay? heels on. That's what it is. That's what it is. I knew it. Well, you wear heels. How tall are you when you actually wear them? Okay. I'm 6'5, okay? What happened to your foot, John? I broke my sesamoid bone.

I don't think I've ever heard of it. I didn't either. It's called, it's the kneecap of the toe. Wow. I know. I got another, let me tell you, if you want old man stories right now, I broke my sesamoid bone by standing on it for too long. I don't even know what that is.

It's a tiny... I broke a bone by standing. I'm just long. I don't even know what that is. It's it really, it's a tiny. I broke a bone by standing. I'm just, I'm that old now. Wow. Yeah. And that means that's a big deal for you because you are, you know, probably one of the best field journalists out here, if not the best. The best, 100% the best.

I think you're the best. I'll take it. I do. And you have the new one of fingers, fingers, fingers, fingers, the post, fingers, the post, MAGA the next generation. That has to affect you. It does. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, no, I mean, literally if you watch the special right now, you will see I'm only shot from like the halfway up, and if anything gets awry, like I can't move or get away from people. Oh, so it was broke during the special? It was broke during the special. Oh, you can't do that when you're on the MAGA crowd. You just never know.

I mean, no offense to the MAGA crowd, but they're also slow movers too. So, you know, I can usually out maneuver them. I can use my privilege to lord it over them, or I use the four security guards to get between me and them if things get hairy. I enjoyed the special. It's you talking to the younger, I guess,

generation of MAGA because 15% of what, young men? Yeah, young men shifted right this election There was a shift there was a shift right from the entire youth generation like women shifted right but men Especially moved into the MAGA camp and so we were we're curious why like what was it about that? It doesn't it doesn't feel like the the cool thing on a campus to believe in you know anti-abortion reproductive rights Or you know such as the anti hippie movement, but but there was a movement thing on a campus to believe in anti-abortion reproductive rights or essentially it's the anti-hippie movement. But there was a movement, so we're like, let's get there, let's go to a turning points event,

let's go to a UFC fight, let's talk to some of these kids. I watched it and when I finished it, I was like, I still didn't hear a logical reason. It just felt like vibes. Yeah. I think it still is vibes. The large question was like, is there an ideology behind this shift? And I think the answer is no.

I don't think you have a lot of kids who have conservative ideals. Some, there's some religion comes in or whatever those ideals are. But I think mostly they see people finding success on TikTok and the social media space being conservative and that gives them an identity. They see it social media space being conservative and that gives them an identity.

They see it as a little bit punk. That gives it an identity. So I think like they're moving towards vibes, which I think for the left, they can get those vibes back, but they're just not engaging with that generation. Jordan, I would have to ask why? Why did you want to waste your time and talk to MAGA younger? I don't think it's a waste of time. I think it's a good exercise.

I think more people should do that. The reason I say that is because you're not gonna get the answers you'd like probably, and then you're probably gonna get threatened a lot. Sure, yes. I mean, the first answer, health insurance. My job is to be able to talk to other people, and if I don't do my job, I don't have health insurance.

Correct. And I have weak bones. So, we've established that. For this six foot nine frame, I need that health insurance. But I think what I like about it, I mean, I'm lucky I get to go out there. I'm not a journalist, I'm a comedian. So I get to push, I get to ask follow ups,

I get to cavort and try to find something that reveals. Like my job out there isn't to convince people of one way or the other. I think my job is to find something that is revealing. Like for this special, we talk to a kid. And I always find it fascinating to go to a campus and just see like what actually is happening. CNN will tell you one thing, but until you go to Texas A&M and talk to a kid, do you actually understand what it is? Like we talked to a kid about like why he was obsessed with Charlie Kirk and why he was going to a Charlie

Kirk event. What is it about this guy? And he literally articulated, like, I have a hard time with my words, I like to listen to what he says, I like to memorize it, and then I have his words and his ideas. And it's like, it's comedic in the special, but I think above that, it's just revealing. Like, when you're like, well, why are these people, why are they drawn to this? It's like, that kid said it right there. He didn't even know that he's being somewhat comical that you're just memorizing ideas so you can regurgitate it. But it's very human. He was like, he feels lost without that.

So for me, it's always compelling to go where the story is and to talk to folks about it. I was gonna ask that, now the threatening part. How many times have you been threatened, whether it's calls, people in person? I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives.

You're going to want to divorce me. Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing. No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies,

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Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum-selling artist, Denity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial

is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Ditty Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge from her days on Making the Band

as she emerged as the breakout star. The truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamor. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamour. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey y'all, it's your girl, T.S. Madison coming to you live and in color from the Outlaws podcast. On this week's episode, we're talking to none other than Chaperone and Sasha Colby. And let me tell you, no topping is off limits, honey. We talk about the lovers, the haters, and the creator. I worked at Scooters Coffee drive-thru kiosk. And you are from the Midwest.

Mm-hmm. And in the Midwest, they told you, well, just be humble. Like, you've heard this countless times. You too, right? Oh, yeah. It's very, like, big in Hawaii. Mine was, I think, wrapped up in, like, Christian gel. Oh, yeah.

We definitely had, like, some Jehovah's Witness guilt there. Yeah. Wait, were you Jehovah's Witness? Yeah. So you were Jehovah's Witness. I grew up that, yeah. My family still says, hey. Or there, yeah. Wait, were you J-Hope's witness? Yeah. So you were J-Hope's witness? I grew up that, yeah. My family still is.

Hey. Or no, bye. Listen, she may have been working the drive through in 2020, but she's the name on everybody's lips now, honey. Listen to Outlaws with T.S. Madison on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, honey. Person, emails, texts, et cetera, et cetera.

I mean that happens a lot. The emails, the calls, there's been threats on family members which is not super fun. I think out in the field, 10 years ago, I'm not going out there with security guards. You know, you can go out there as a comedian talk about politics and not be afraid of getting punched. But Trump era comes in.

People get more upset, upset. Trump says like, you're you're a patriot. Fight back. These are the enemy of the people. And it was it was during his first first run for president that like we went to a school board meeting and having a conversation. And I get bum rushed by somebody who's just mad that we have a camera there. And since then, we keep adding security guards. I was there on January 6th and that got hairy. We got a camera there. And since then, we keep adding security guards.

I was there on January 6th, and that got hairy. We got a security guard, they got pushed, there's flash bangs going off, they're like, we can't stand here, we need to get on a train. It's sort of the new reality. And most people I talk to are great, they wanna talk. They wanna be on TV, they wanna engage. But you have it now where people have been weaponized

by the most powerful men on the planet And then who says like you can do something you should fight back These are the bad guys and all it takes is a couple bad ideas for those guys to to feel themselves and and go after you What's the crazy experience you that that you've had so far? I mean j6 was pretty I was up there for j6 I was working on j J6. What the **** I didn't know that. What was you talking about? I was working on J6, all right Charlamagne? I was working there.

I was out there. I was out there. Trying to throw a dough. You know what the funniest moment on J6? Outside of the whole trying to overthrow the government and you know, crapping on Nancy Pelosi's desk. Outside of that, I'm literally interviewing people and we'd been there before and we knew sort of like we don't want to get trapped on the onslaught.

So let's stay outside of where everybody is. And quite frankly, we're like, where's the one place nobody is congregating? And it was outside the African American History Museum. Nobody was going there. So we were like, we will meet up here and then we will go and find people to interview. We start walking, we find this guy swinging a pitchfork,

and I go up to the man, I start talking to this man. Oh, that's the guy you wanna talk to? That's the guy. The guy that's swinging a pitchfork. We gotta make TV here, you know? And that guy's got a pitchfork, he's throwing it around. Leave it blank, all right. By the way, I still find it hilarious

that nobody was outside the African-American museum. Oh, 100%. That's the funniest thing. Where are we gonna go? African-American museum, nobody's there. Do you wanna engage with America's sins of the past? No, no, let's take a crap on the desk at the Capitol. What do you say?

So we're talking to this guy swinging a pitchfork and he's ranting about revolution and another man comes up, he sees the camera and he just starts, he's just swearing. He's just obscenity man and he's yelling so loud that pitchfork man stops the interview, he shushes him, and then he says, this man doesn't speak for me, which then leaves me grateful to the more level-headed man swinging a Pitchfork. And he makes eye contact with me and he rolls his eyes as if to say, like, can you believe this heaven guy? And I was like, oh yeah, that's it. Like, even this guy is like, these guys are too crazy for me, can we just have a conversation? And you're like, right, we can actually find a little bit of common ground if there is

that crazier person there. We got my man Jordan Klepper from The Daily Show here. Yo, refresh my memory. I don't, what the hell was happening on January 6th before the insurrection? What was everybody there for? Well, they were there to certify the vote. Certify the vote. Okay.

But Trump then preempts it by having a huge rally at 11 o'clock. And so everybody comes out, Rudy Giuliani is very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, It was not a surprise though as a cable comedy show like we knew to be at the Capitol We were right there when they pushed in because we're like this is where everybody's going where they said they're going There's going to be something happen here I we didn't expect them to get inside, but we knew they'd be there for the sake of content for the sake of clicks Did you think to yourself? Hey, we should go in with them Luckily like my inherent fear got in the way there. I think it was confusing as to what the rules were. I think even at the time, there was a small fence

that got pushed in, and even as you're seeing this and you're watching this, and again, it's half tragic. You're like, this is the Capitol, this is the seat of American governance, and I see all these people acting like generals going in there, and it's also completely absurd. I interviewed literally an old man on a Segway trying to go up the hill while it's happening.

But I'm assuming they can't get in, right? You're like, they're going to get stopped at some point there. But the people just kept coming and literally our security guys at one point were just like, we're hearing explosions. This is an uncontrolled situation. It's time to get out.

People at the Daily Show, and you said it a little while ago, everybody at the Daily Show always says something that I totally disagree with. Y'all say that y'all not journalists, y'all are comedians. When in reality, y'all are probably some of the best journalists out. Because you do things like go and talk to the other side

when other folks really don't, right? So do you ever interview people at these rallies? Well, first of all, do you think it's fair for y'all to be able to say y'all not journalists? Well, it's definitely a dodge. So yeah, thanks for calling it out. You know, I mean, I think I say that in that the stories we get on The Daily Show are stories that are brought to us by journalists putting in the work. And so that I respect and they work by the code of journalism. I think what we have, we take it very seriously.

I don't see myself as a journalist, but I take going out and bringing back what we see we take it very seriously. I don't see myself as a journalist, but I take going out and bringing back what we see to the show very seriously. But I do want an audience to understand the bias that we have towards comedy and that we're making a show with that point of view. But I think all news has a bias. And I do think like in modern journalism,

I don't think it should be a bunch of comedians going out there bringing the stories back, far from it. But I do think they could probably loosen up some of the rules and the ways in which they engage with people. And sometimes you see people engaging with the old school rules of journalism, not pushing people past their conspiracies or their BS or their weighing both sides. We like, no, that's BS. You need to call that out.

You need to use some other way to knock that person off their talking point so they can reveal something truthful there. I think as comedians, we have that ability and at its best it works that way. But we're working in conjunction with journalists who are actually bringing the story back so that we can have some commentary on it. Comedy is disarming.

It is. That's the thing that a lot of the journalists don't have. 100%. Yeah, and at its best it cuts to the quick faster than trying to argue with somebody else. When you do something like the MAGA, the Next Generation, do you ever leave the rally thinking damn maybe I'm the one who doesn't get it? I always leave it with a little bit more empathy towards the folks that I'm talking with.

Because for every five minutes on camera, there's two minutes off camera where you're talking about something that's not political and you connect with them and they're interesting, they're compelling, you find music that you both care about or something. I think that softens what you think about the people and the interactions that you have with those people. I think I usually feel pretty steadfast in my opinions. That being said, I do think like, no, nobody has the certainty that they pretend to have on camera.

At these rallies, no, there's a lot of complexity to many, many issues, but nobody has the certainty that they pretend to have on camera at these rallies like no there's there's there's a lot of complexity to many many issues, but nobody has the The guts or the vulnerability to be open about it usually in front of the camera now You said you want to bring peace and harmony. Did I say that? Yes Really? Is that true? Oh boy. What did I say? I want to bring peace and harmony So you want to bring peace and harmony, but but how is that when every time a MAGA member comes you give him a little joke. Give him a little bit. You know what yeah I try to deliver peace through the lovely delivery mechanism of a joke. I you know I'd love there to be some peace and harmony but it is a constant balance of you know I want to empathize I don't want to just be mean out there when I talk to other people but also

it's I think life is pretty serious right now and I think when I talk to other people. But also, I think life is pretty serious right now. And I think when I go to some of these MAGA events, you see Donald Trump playing to the masses in a way that emboldens him to do pretty cruel things. And so I don't mind pushing back hard in that direction, but I often think the people I talk to, I have sympathy for because I think they're being weaponized by other people who are trying to manipulate them.

So that's where my empathy tends to lie. Do you ever struggle with where satire ends and responsibility begins? Yeah, I mean, I think like that activist conversation is a tough one. I don't love the hat. I do think like John is somebody who always says like, you know, this is not activism, we're comedians. And I think like some ways that is a safety net, but you also sort of need that to not approach work every day to think of what am I trying to change in the world? I understand where that comes from,

but it's like the job of the show is to find comedy, to follow your passions, the things you care about, where you CBS, call it out, but also find a way to make it funny and interesting and reformat it. I think that is the job. You get in tough territory when you're like I need to I need to be an activist in That moment I don't think that is the place But I think you have to be honest with like your desire to like be a part of that conversation

But also be honest with like what your skill set is and what your platform is Have you ever spoke with somebody where you actually changed their mind by the things that you said and they understood what you were saying? No. Okay. I do tell the story though. It doesn't happen in front of the camera. People don't change their minds in front of the camera. But, off camera it gets close.

I was heckled at a rally by a man who was dressed in a brick suit. A suit that looked like Trump's wall. Of the spokesuit, he had a handlebar mustache. He's known as the brick suit guy. Trump brings him up on stage at lots of his rallies. He's famous there. He trolled me at a rally. He livestreamed during our interviews

to try to get people not to talk to us. He was painting the ass. We get snowed in and all of us have to fly out the next day after this rally on different flights. And I show up at the Green Bay Airport, very tiny airport alone. There's a three and a half hour delay and Brick Suit guy is there. He's not in the Brick Suit. He's not in the Brick Suit. He's wearing a MAGA hat. He's got two extra hats on his case but no Brick Suit. Civilian close.

And he's like, do you want to talk? And of course I don't want to talk but we're there at an airport for three and a half hours and we get into it and I don't change his mind. He doesn't change my mind, but he is remarkably open about the things he's unsure about with Donald Trump. He's unsure, he wishes Donald Trump didn't go on and on about the 2020 election being stolen, which is a huge thing to show any kind of weakness.

Like I don't believe Trump was honest about that. In the MAGA movement, you can't say that in front of the camera, he says that to me off camera. He talks about like where he comes from and frankly he comes he's like a libertarian guy who likes to troll people online. You'd like to think that the handlebar mustache guy who dresses in bespoke brick suits is an idiot, not an idiot. Smart guy, feels like a history buff, like the kind of person who has too many like World War II books. but a smart guy has his own topics. Like we literally we laugh. Somebody recognizes me as we're talking and ask for a selfie. And he takes the photo, which is like this.

He's open to all of this stuff. We talk all the way up until I get on the plane. And I'm in an exit row. And the woman who takes the ticket, I ask if I'm willing to accept the responsibilities of being an exit row, I say yes. And then I turn to him and I was like, I hope this freaks you out, man. And he laughs. And I'm like, that's it right there. Like, you're not intimidated by me. You're not. I'm not so offended that I made a joke. You laugh. It's humor. It's disarming. And it's for most of

the people who I'm friends with, even who I disagree with, you find things you can laugh at. And that happens all off-camera. who I'm friends with, even who I disagree with, you find things you can laugh at. And that happens all off camera. And I'm not entering that conversation to try to change his mind. That's not going to happen. But I'm entering it with like an amount of uncertainty of like, here's the things that I'm unsure about what the left says or here's things that I think are okay about what Trump does.

And he's like, here's things that I doubt about what Trump does. You're like, oh, there's the human behind that. Even in the caricature of a guy from The Daily Show mixed with the caricature of a person from the Trump universe, they can talk, they can meet somewhere of an understanding. And usually it's freaking away from those cameras in a Green Bay airport.

It is Memorial Day, so we're not here to salute all our veterans out there, but we do have some new conversations for you that you haven't heard yet. My man Jordan Klepper, he's got a new special out. Jordan Klepper, Fingers the Post, MAGA, and we're gonna talk to him all about it right here on The Breakfast Club. I remember when you had your late night show, didn't they have you playing a character of like a conservative right wing? I was playing like an Alex Jones style

right wing character and so that was and at that time too it was like Infowars was so huge and big and the conspiracy mindset, which thankfully has gone completely away. We don't see it anymore. But that that was me playing a caricature to find humor in going over the top. Quite frankly, as comedy has evolved and the politics situation has evolved so much over the last 10 years, like I think that's still a space to play in. There's still humor to be found, but I think audiences are like so tired of extreme caricatures. You have one in the White House that like, I think they're connecting more with comedians

on a more authentic level. And so that's sort of in some ways where the finger, the pulse stuff has come out of. Trevor was big on that. He was just like, go out there. You're not playing a parody of a journalist. You're yourself bringing your wits about you and your opinions find humor in that but don't lean on the character also people are

dumb so they'll believe you like uh I didn't know you playing the character you know yeah we had we had at the opposition we had Carter Page who was a foreign advisor to Donald Trump and was the center of the news cycle at one point because people were wondering if he was a Russian asset because Russia had manipulated him in the past. He was working for the Trump administration and he reached out to our show and took a meeting at our show because he wanted to work on our show as someone. He didn't see it as a satire.

He saw it as an opportunity, which was hard for us to swallow. Where do you think satire fits in today's media landscape? Are people numb to it? Are they addicted? Are they still reachable? Do they understand it? I mean, I think what has shifted so much is like the formatting of it all, right?

I think like satire is all about context, and that's hard if you're taking in seven second chunks on like TikTok. I think it's hard if you're taking in seven second chunks on like TikTok. I think it's easier if you have a 30 minute chunk, if you have an eight minute rant. I think people are drawn to comedy. In many ways it is like the language of, I mean it's a language of humor,

but I think like it's the quickest way to get to a truth. So I do think, I think satire is in a boom. I think people are drawn, but I think, but that being said, the social media landscape has shifted the ways in which we consume all this stuff. And that has kind of like, it has made for long form capabilities, long podcasts. I think that has shifted where comedy lies and short form as well, which is more about the soundbites. Now, speaking of future of MAG, what do you think the future of MAG is going to look like, especially in 2028? Oh boy, I think that I I think Trump is such a singular

Character that they think it can be passed on and that we've seen no proof of that yet Donald Trump has been famous his whole life You know, he's you know referenced in rap songs when I was coming up in a way that was like he is equated with wealth And I think that is nobody else has that and so I think they're going to try to pass it off. Maybe that's to Chady Vance. Maybe it's to somebody who's even farther right. But right now it's still a cult of personality that he's going to try to build around him.

We'll see if that baton goes anywhere else. It's interesting when people say that though, because to me it's not even about the individual of Donald Trump. There's clearly a whole system that is perfectly okay with him doing everything that he's doing. So that is what scares me. It's the system that is allowing him to exist because they will allow somebody else to exist in that same way.

Yeah, they've attached a system and there's people behind it who have gotten good at understanding how to use Donald Trump. I think this project 2025, the world of Steve Bannon's like, okay, he's gonna come in here. He has a singular character in his ability to charm half a nation, 40 some odd percent of a nation. I think that is hard to pass off. But I think you have a conservative movement who has sort of lost any desire to make a moral argument

and just found a way in which to attach their wants to somebody who will just bulldoze all the way through. The Trump doctrine is he likes to make deals and he wants whatever is good for him. And if they can attach conservative things onto the things that are deals and good for him that make him look successful and popular then they will ride that and he has no problem riding that. What's the moment, I have a couple more questions, what's the moment that actually made you emotional while doing one of your Man on the Street segment? I mean it's not to get dark about it all but like we cover news day in and day out and

not to get dark about it all, but like we cover news day in and day out and when I was hosting the show specifically like mass shootings Like like, oh, how do you find humor it we find humor? but like when you are when it's your responsibility late night has shifted into a place where people come to it to feel like a connection to what has happened during the days and We have such a mass shooting epidemic in this country, and especially when I was hosting a show where like, what happened today? Well, the big news is there was another terrible shooting in a school and we had people come on and I've covered like the gun movement with specials and in the past as well. And I've talked to parents and I've talked to

students who were affected by all of this. And it's such, it's such emblematic of what is, what is, what is wrong with our country. Most people just want safe, basic guidelines to try to stop this, and there's such inaction on a federal level that it's constantly infuriating. And so as that keeps happening and continues to happen, it's so heartbreaking.

Also as someone who has a kid who's in school right now, it's so scary to think of that happening to parents, and beyond that, it's so infuriating, because it's like the system is broken when you have people who scream out from their rafters, 80 some odd percent of people are like, we just need basic stuff to try to help kids in schools, and yet you have like a system of government that can't respond to that, like that always,

it always pisses me off. What's your dream field piece that you haven't gotten to do yet? Barbados. Send me to a nice place, nice place on a beach. I'm in Pennsylvania all the time at Trump rallies in the heat, fighting with people about whether JFK Jr. is still alive. Send me to someplace beautiful.

Give me a puff piece. So how do you decompress after a day of absorbing conspiracy theories in 90 degree heat? You know what? It's booze. Booze helps real quick. It's booze the NBA and being a dad. I think that helps out. Well, tell them how they can see this special. They can check it out on Paramount Plus or YouTube. It's up on both those places right now. That's right. Fingers the pulse. MAGA, the next generation on The Daily's YouTube. Jordan Klepper, ladies and gentlemen. The Daily Show's YouTube.

Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having us, guys. It's the Breakfast Club, it's Jordan Klepper. You gotta say something you may not agree with, doesn't mean I'm mean. Who's getting that donkey? That donkey, that donk, donk, donk, donk, donk. Donkey of the day, right there.

Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. It's the Breakfast Club, bitches. You can call me the donkey of the day, but like, I mean no harm. Donkey of the day goes to a Baltimore man by the name of Kevin Gross. Kevin is 46 years old, just like I am, but I clearly make better choices than Kevin.

You know how sometimes people say, oh, you think you're better than me? The answer is yes. Yes, I do, because I make better choices. Not judging you for anything you got going on, but you ask me a question. Oh, you think you're better than me? Yes, hell yes, because I understand

the strongest principle of growth lies in human choice and I make better choices than you. And if you are currently enjoying this thing called freedom, well, you make better choices than Kevin as well, because he's in jail. Currently facing charges for allegedly shooting a 28 year old coworker on the side of I-95 this past Monday morning.

Now I know some of y'all right now are either at or on the way to jobs where you think you can't stand your co-worker. You believe you hate this co-worker with all your heart and you just might. Okay just be better than Kevin. Okay and the way you continue to be better than Kevin is simply by making the choice not to shoot your co-worker. Let's go to WBAL-TV for the report, please. Bond denied for 46-year-old Kevin Gross. He's facing charges for allegedly shooting a 28-year-old coworker on the side of I-95

early Monday morning. According to charging documents, the victim called 911. When state police arrived, they found him walking along the shoulder of 95 with seven gunshot wounds to the arm and torso court documents show he told police he was on his way into working got a flat tire so we pulled over on the shoulder of ninety five just north of the howard county line when he got out to inspect the tire his co-worker kevin gross

pulled up behind him and got out wearing a mask covering his mouth quote grossote, Gross told him he must have hit a pothole or something. But upon inspecting the tire, the victim could see the tire had been slashed. Gross then produced a firearm and began firing numerous shots. End quote. Charging documents reveal the two were assistant managers at Planet. I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast, Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all, his wife, Caroline. He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me.

Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community. She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing. No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies, and quite frankly, I question how many other women

may bring forward allegations in the future. This season of betrayal investigates one officer's decades of deception. Lies that left those closest to him questioning everything they thought they knew. Listen to Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yo, Kebabs fans. It's your boy, Bom Han, and I'm bringing you something epic. Introducing the K-Factor, the podcast that takes you straight into the heart of K-Pop. We're talking music reviews, exclusive interviews, and deep dives into the industry like never

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podcast. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement. Are you ready? Let's go. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality,

platinum-selling artist, Denity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York, and they immediately started jumping to conclusions.

So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamour.

It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I worked at Scooter's Coffee Drive-Thru Kiosk. And you are from the Midwest. Mm-hmm. And in the Midwest, they told you, well, just be humble. Like, you've heard this countless times.

You too, right? Oh, yeah. It's very, like, big in Hawaii. Mine was, I think, wrapped up in, like, Christian Dill. Oh, yeah. We definitely had, like, some Jehovah's Witness guilt there. Yeah. Wait, were you Jehovah's Witness?

Yeah. So you were Jehovah's Witness? I grew up that, yeah. My family still is. Hey. Or no. Bye. Listen, she may have been working the drive-through in 2020, but she's the name on everybody's

lips now, honey. Listen to Outlaws with T.S. Madison on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, honey. Aid in Elkridge. Gross had recently been demoted and the victim told police Gross thought he had something to do with that demotion. Kevin, you got the right last name

because this was Gross. What a diabolical plan. The victim was on his way to work and got a flat tire. He thought he hit a pothole, but his tires had been slashed. Oh, I wonder who slashed him. And then when he got out the inspector tire, Kevin pulled up behind him with a mask

and shot him several times. All because he thought his coworker got him demoted. Both of them were assistant managers at Planet Aid. Now y'all know what Planet Aid is, right? No. Yeah, they are the organizations that collect the clothing donations. They got the yellow bins all over the place

where you can put the clothes and shoes in. Yeah, they accept clothing donations in 1,700 locations. Okay, in the Elkridge warehouse, you know where Elkridge is right? Yep. They collect 15.5 million pounds of used clothes and shoes annually. Well clearly Kevin wasn't there for the cause so I needed to know what are the perks of being an assistant manager at Planet Aid? So I asked Chad GPT, how much does an assistant manager at Planet Aid make? I don't know if this is 100% correct But it says the average salary for a manager at Planet Aid might earn between

50,000 and 60,000 annually now I need y'all to always keep in mind that my education is limited to a high school degree from night school Okay, drop on the clues bomb from Berkeley High School But if it's one thing I understand is prison math and by prison math I mean when you have to calculate in your mind whether or not the choice you make is gonna be worth You going to prison. Okay. Now, let's do the prison math. All right, I'm making 50 60 grand a year in Baltimore As a 46 year old man, I don't know about y'all But if I can afford to put some food on my table and have a roof over my head, I'm gonna be happy

Okay, success is subjective. And if you're a free man, 46 years old, you can come and go as you please, you got a job you maintaining, that's a good life. If you don't think it's a good life, go to a prison right now and talk to these brothers doing 15, doing 20, doing 25, some of them doing forever and ask them what they trade lives with the free man making 50 to 60 grand as an assistant manager

at Planet Aid. Hell, even if he got demoted, okay? Even if he got demoted, the warehouse lead role at Planet Aid earns about 27.39 per hour according to ChatGPT. That's almost 57 grand a year if you work in 40 hours a week. All I'm saying is, no matter how much I calculate,

this prison math, okay? I've done addition, subtraction, multiplication, division. I tried to figure this out multiple ways and guess what? It just don't compute, okay? It just doesn't add up. The victim is in critical condition. He got shot seven times. Kevin Gross is charged with attempted first degree murder.

In Maryland, that's life in prison. First and second degree assault, Kevin Gross is also charged with. First degree assault is 25 years in Maryland. Second degree assault is 10 years in Maryland and he got other related charges. Moral of the story is Kevin is spending the rest of his natural born life in prison. Therefore the prison math ain't adding up. It's just not worth it. You have to calculate it in your head. You got demoted. You don't even know if this person you shot had anything to do with it. But even if they did, as soon as you started formulating this plan in your head, just think about it. I'm going to cut

his tires. I'm going to shoot him a bunch of times. At some point your brain has to say, no, no, no, no, no. This prison math ain't mathin'. This is not a situation that's worth having to eat jail food for the rest of your life. Or having an inmate treat your boonky like a bowl of cereal. So please let Remy Ma give Kevin Gross the biggest hee haw. Hee haw, hee haw. You stupid mother f**ker. Are you dumb?

You got demoted. Take the L. How do you get demoted from like a Salvation Army place? That's a goodwill place. And what could you do wrong? Yeah, I don't know. But he didn't even ask no questions. He just assumed it was just the other this other person and shot him seven times.

Now he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison for that. No add up. They don't need to play. And you also mean we can if you want to what you want to play a game He's from Baltimore The white people in Baltimore, yes Come on in no Latinos in Baltimore. No, but something that petty like that like Like you got a point

Clothes in store then it's not even like a regular clothing store. It's Plan B. Yeah, like, nah, he black. Always do prison math though. Whenever you about to make a choice that you think is going to get you in some type of trouble, especially if it's involving any type of crime, just calculate it in your head. Is this worth the time you're going to get for said situation? That's it.

All right. Well, thank you for that situation. That's it. Alright well thank you for that donkey today. Morning everybody it's DJ NV Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club we got a special guest in the building. Yes indeed. Bien, welcome. Pepe, Pepe thank you so much for having me guys. How you doing bro? I'm doing great I'm having an amazing time in New York just sold out the SOBs the other night. And so now I'm in the best breakfast club. So this is a big deal for me guys. You just launched a tour, right? Yes, I'm on tour currently.

I'm doing 10 states and we're sold out everywhere. Oh, that's dope. Congratulations. Super blessed. Thank you, thank you. And the album is called, let me see if I'm pronouncing this right, Alusa? Alusa, yes.

Alusa is my name, as known in my village. So Alusa, why are you topless? So you don't have no shirt on most of the time? Yeah. You be out there showing t*****s usually. But I had to buy. Yes, I'm showing t*****s, you know, some back. Yeah, but being topless is freedom.

Being topless is audacity. And in this phase of my career and where I'm at right now, I need that audacity to be with me every day. Is that really audacity to be topless if you walk around with no pants on, b**** winging around? No, no, no. That's audacity.

That's a big part. Just the shirt off, head-pies and that. No, no, no, no. You know when you get home, like if you're a girl, when you get home, the first thing you do is you can hook your bra. Yeah. And that's part of the freedom I'm talking about.

Being topless is not really a chance. What do you identify as? A black man. A black man? Don't be saying it. You said as a girl. A black man. Now it'll be audacity. No as a girl, I don't know.

No, I just gave you an analogy. That maybe jets can connect with you. It's an analogy. But that's different though, cause I get it. When women get home and they take that bra off. What about you, like when you get home and maybe if you're in Miami. No, if you're in Miami and you're in a sunny place and a humid place and you take off your shirt, that's freedom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah and basketball shorts no drawers. You're not talking about that.

You're really pushing this no drawers agenda. You're pushing this no drawers agenda. The name of your show is Charlemagne. I was going to be Charlemagne. Why are you gay? Why? Yes. Shut up my neighbors, Uganda for that. Those are my next door neighbors. Now you did rap, I was going to say, you did rap radar the other day. Yes I did. And you came with something different that I don't think any rap radar guest has ever done.

Rap radar done the interviews? No, like I performed. How about to say, oh, on the radar since the game? I was like, what? You came with a chicken? Yeah, I came with a chicken. I would have come with a chicken here, but there's too many rules and you guys are really on the rados in the game? I was like, what? The game, yes. You came with a chicken? Yeah, I came with a chicken. I would have come with a chicken here, but there's too many rules, and you guys are really on the top floor,

so I wasn't able to smuggle my mascot into the building. I know, that's right. Yeah. A chicken is my cultural totem. Like, the animal that represents my culture is a rooster. And it's because a rooster is a timekeeper. A rooster is a caregiver. A rooster is a security for your home. A rooster is many things, including a time keeper. Arusa is a caregiver. Arusa is a security for your home.

Arusa is many things, including a good meal. So that's why I walk around with it. That's why I walk around with it. Where did you get this chicken from? Where did you get the chicken from? I know you didn't. I didn't know the animal laws in New York. I had to drive all the way to Pennsylvania.

Like an hour and a half. To get a chicken? Yeah, to get a chicken. You could have went to Queens. They wouldn't sell it to me in Queens. Nobody would give me a live chicken in New York because it's against the law. So I had to go all the way to Pennsylvania, cross state lines to look for the chicken. But yeah.

I think it's about the wording. Cause you know, in America, I don't know if y'all say this in Kenya, in America they say ****. So you have to say, I want to bring my **** to the interview. Yeah, when I say **** me and my ****. I was joking my Give my to my driver and he took it to an animal like home animal shelter, so he's alive This is a freedom album basically, yeah I'm gonna be alive. Okay. Yeah, my life. This is a freedom album. Basically. Yeah, this is a loser Why are you tapas you are my other life? I was in a band I was in a boy band and the band was called salty so call what salty so

Means in Swahili voices of the Sun. Okay. Yeah, so I was in a boy band and this is my second like lease of life So now I'm a solo artist. I've been a solo artist for two years now and everything's looking up I'm at the breakfast club mama I made it Hey, why does Saudi soul take such a long hiatus for music y'all last? 20 years. Yeah, we're like new addition from Kenya. Yeah, boys to men. We met in high school We've been together 20 years 20 beautiful years the best years of my life. What made you just want to go solo now? Yeah, I just tried something new, you know, after doing something for a long time,

I think it was time for us to try and see what the other side looks like. And it's been beautiful so far. I think we needed this break so that our next season will be just as glorious, even better. And what are the other Saudi solos doing? They're making music. They're doing interesting things. My brother, Polycap, just launched his guitar, Jawaya, which is an amazing guitar. Chimano is on tour, Savara is putting out music as well. So we're all busy and we're all working together. Like we're all writing for one another, we're all producing for one another.

They're still friends. Oh, great friends. Great friends. Amazing. Yeah. Why do you think East African music hasn't seen a surge in, I guess, mainstream in the way artists from the Western South do? Yeah. Well, there's many aspects to it, mainstream the way artists from the the western South Africa. Yeah. Well, there's many

aspects to it including the fact that it's just never been funded. Any music that you hear uh in the west is marketing dollars spent to get that music there. So, for a long time, East Africa hasn't had that limelight. Also, our

numbers in the diaspora don't come anywhere close to Nigeria. So, the dominant culture in the diaspora is going to be Nigeria. But the next logical sound to listen to after you've gone north, east, west, north, west and south is east. And so here we are, you know, we're taking the stairs, but we're getting here anyway. You know, why is it I noticed with international artists, they always want to win in the US. Why is that so important? Because when you win in the US, the reward is too high. Being the biggest artist in Kenya is nowhere close

to being the biggest artist in the US. When you win in the US, you win in the world. So for a long time, this market has dominated the world like that. Also, you guys have the structures, you have the venues, the ticket masters, and all this. All of these infrastructure makes music what it is in the world. Yeah, so you're the thought leaders, you're global leaders. Why not?

Yeah. Remember when your love for music first hit you? Yes. I was like maybe five or six. I was watching Bob Marley's song, Iron, Lion, Zion, da-da-da-da-da-da. And that's the first time I was like, whoa, what is this? Like, I feel like doing this thing. And I've been doing it since. I'm 37 now, guys. I've been singing 31 years. Yeah.

Wow, so six years old. Since I was six, yeah. And I joined the choir and church. And I always say the church is the best artist development program in the world. Because that's where all the great musicians, especially for black music, come from. How was it in Kenya?

Because you know, you hear the stories, people from Nigeria, their parents like, no, you're not going to go into music, you're not going to go into entertainment, you're going to be a doctor, you know, like in Kenya when you said you wanted to do music, how was it? My mom said, as long as you finish school, as long as you finish college, you can do whatever you want. And music has been a kind master to me. Music paid me through college. Like I put in my first single with South Tisola, my band, when I was a freshman. And just like that, my life

changed. I had to finish school, but I started to be a journalist. So I'll probably be working here. I did communications. And did you know that moment where you knew you were going to make it like, oh, this is, this is what I was here to do? I told also my cousin when I was six six that I'm going to be a superstar. And she laughed it off, but I remind her to this day that this is written. Like I always knew that this is what I'm gonna do.

Yeah, even though sometimes life pushed me in directions where I wasn't in my direct journey. Like for example, like when I studied communications, it wasn't me studying music, but it came back now to make sense. You know, like my auditory skills are different. I understand how to interview, how to, I was actually just finishing school to clock out something in life. Say that I have a degree, but I wasn't very passionate about it. What did you major in? Communications.

Journalism. Okay. It's a different field. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist.

I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist.

I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. in life. Say that I have a degree, but I wasn't very passionate about it. What did you major in? Communications. Journalism. Oh, OK. You just said that. You communicated that day. I communicated.

Not as effective. I just wanted to be clear. It is Memorial Day, so we're not here, but we do have some conversations that you haven't heard. You know we all are fans of Afro beats and all of the the sounds that are coming out of the continent right now so I want to introduce you to somebody you may or you may not know. His name is BN. Okay BN is an artist from Kenya, an Afro pop musician and we're gonna talk to him because he's currently on tour here in the States and we're gonna talk to

him right now. I saw something where they were saying you are the Grammys was donating some money to Kenya. That was political. So the Grammys was donating some money to Kenya. That was political. So the Grammys are doing an Africa Grammys. You know, like the same way we have the Latin Grammys. So there's been talk about Africa doing a Grammys and Kenya had put in a bid to be the host for the Grammys. 3.8 million it was.

Something like that. And the bid, the whole, I think the news came out at a very bad time because at that time economically and even now, we're not doing so well as a country. So a 3.8 million dollar spend on the Grammys feels like an impulse spend to the people. Like a spackle face. Yeah, it's like come on man. The money that the Grammys would bring in would be quadruple that though I'm sure. You know, not a lot of people have the insights of the music business to understand the value of the Grammys coming to Kenya like that. So the people were just up in arms because they felt like there's many more ways to spend the 3.5 million dollars. Why did you agree with it?

Because I'm an artist and I understand what it's going to do for my constituency, for my people. Like this is future, future investments for the artists who are coming. I'm an artist and I understand what it's going to do for my constituency, for my people. Like, this is future, future, you know, investments. For the artists who are coming, you know, they're going to thank us one day for hosting the Grammys in Kenya.

So, I think it's not a bad thing. Maybe the communication behind it should have been better. Maybe they should have been told about the financial. Yeah. You should agree in

communications. Yes, I agree. I agree, Jess. I agree, I agree. Maybe just the communication should have been better. Yeah. Yeah. They should have said what Envia said about the profit and what we stand to gain as a country and this and this and this and then people would have been like, okay, we see it. I mean, we had the visitation. Yeah. Hotels, restaurants, foods, tourism. Yeah. I mean, it's just so much that you get out of. The development programs for the different facets of the music industry that the Grammy comes with as well.

That's right. Yeah. You know, the Grammy is like a good artist development program as well, second to church. So yeah, it would be nice if they came through. Yeah, I'm still hoping they do. Does that put a lot of pressure on you knowing that Kenya is a country that isn't doing that well financially, but you may be doing better than most? Yes, it puts pressure on me to make art that speaks to those people and tells their story to the world. Like I want people to see the pain and the struggle in my art. I want them to listen to the lyrics and I want them to I want the lyrics to take them to places in Kenya that they've never been to and I want the human experience to connect. So right now we're not going through a very easy

time. Our government has no opposition. The opposition is the youth. And for the last year or so, there have been so many abductions. There's been so many, there's been freedom of expression, but not freedom after expression. And I just think it's important for us to know that, for the leaders to know that I have more faith in the children who are coming than their leadership in terms of the power they used to oppress. I don't have any fear to the current regime. I have more faith in the kids and I think the kids are going to save us.

You feel comfortable living here? I feel comfortable living in Kenya. I would say to a large extent, Kenya is a beautiful country. There's many experiences you can get and if and and we are generally very peaceful people But the recent times have been very tough economically, but we are not a basket kiss. That's right Yeah, we are proper people Kenyans are fighters Africans are fighters and the people of Africa will keep the lights on the bill of Kenya keep the lights on Yeah, what is one of your favorite songs from now?

Mashari Mashari. Yeah, it's a tribute you, Jess. I wrote it to you. Yeah. She's married. I know. Bambi is too! It's okay. I'm also married. But he's also African so he can have more than one wife. No, he can't. That too. You can't. You're a man too. I just choose not to. You're a man too. Yeah, constitutionally. You can only have more than one baby. That's every African. I thought that was in certain villages. Why are y'all doing that? You know, some things just I found in this world and there's such complex issues that I can't really address right now in the brass bass club, but I'm not doing it. Okay.

Yeah. Because Chiki deserves all of you and only me. All of me, only me. Her? Yeah. Okay. Yes. So you wouldn't want another wife?

I'm just saying, let me rephrase that. See, try to get you in trouble, B.M. No, no, no, no, let me rephrase that. I know you are happily married. I'm just saying, based off African tradition in a lot of countries, you are allowed to have another wife. Constitutionally in Kenya, you're allowed. Do I want another wife?

No, I don't. Gotcha. Not now. No, no, I don't. No. Don't let me get you in trouble. Just because that's culturally, like y'all can do that doesn't mean you always

want that, right? Yeah. I so I come from a polygamous family. My dad has 10 kids from six different women. I am the last of 10. I am the last of 10. You've been troubled. I know you by the way.

He's married. Was he married to him or just? Um, informally, one would argue that. Yeah. So formally he's been He's married. Yeah. Was he married to him or just? Um informally, you want to argue that yeah. So, formally, he's been married to two. Okay. Yeah. My mother is the last of the ten and I'm

the yeah. Of the six. They all know about each other. They all know about each other. When he bought a spoon for our house, he bought a spoon for the other house. You know, like. Yeah. Yeah. If you guys really understand how polygamy works, maybe it's not going to be a very touchy subject.

I think just when you listen from the West and how people speak about it, it's just really given the vibe that it's unfair, but it has everything to do with society and how society was set up back then. It may not work now, I agree, but back then it had everything to do with community and looking out for one another. You know, in some cases, a guy was polygamous because maybe his first wife couldn't get kids, you see, and she'd be like, let me bring a helper to see how we can do this. Also, the more kids you had, the more labor you had because we were farmers, we were herdsmen. And so the more children you had, the more people you had to create wealth with. So that was the structure then.

Can I ask one more random question? Yeah. What would Africa look like if all the countries were unified? I ask myself that question all the time. I ask myself what would Africa look like if you weren't colonized? Because you know, naturally,

we have never really been people who go out to conquer and convert. We've always been, and that's why it was very easy to colonize us because we were easy to you know, coerce and we didn't know the games that the other party was playing. So I think a united Africa is an Africa that's living to its full potential. It's peaceful. There's some leaders right now in the continent who are showing what Africa could do united. I don't know if you guys have heard about Traore from Burkina Faso. Burkina Faso. Yeah and he's been able to unite the countries on his region.

They've been able to kick out France and because he's taking care of people. Yeah and he's taking care of people and I see that to be the future of the continent and when we unite we will be unstoppable in all the beautiful ways. The end ladies and gentlemen. Good to see you brother. Tell them about what is their website for the tour. I just go to oh yes in beautiful ways. Be at ladies and gentlemen. Good to see you brother. Tell them about what is their website for the tour. I just go to. Oh yes man. You can go on my

Instagram. BNMSO. B I E N A I M E S O L. BNMSO. Uh you can go there. There's a link for the tickets. I'm sold out in pretty much every place. Hey. But you can follow the boy. You can check out the vibes. Mm hmm. And through my page, you're

going to discover what this topic is about. I also want to welcome all of you guys to Kenya. I'd love to. Thank you. If you guys ever land in Kenya, envy I know you come there often. Not often, I gotta get back though. Tell them about it. Beautiful place. Kenya right by Zanzibar right? Yes. Tanzania? Yeah. I went there last year, well the year before last I went to Tanzania Zanzibar and they was like you gotta go to Kenya it's right there. Yeah. Nice. So I'm welcoming you guys to Kenya. Thank you. Absolutely. Love to see you guys there. Yes sir. Appreciate you brother. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time for a positive note. What we got? It is really simple

man. For everybody out there that's always on social media, you know, trying to curate the perfect image, putting a filter on everything. I just want to tell y'all, y'all be so worried about image, you need to clean up your spirit. Okay? Some of y'all need to clean up your spirit. Go do some damn work on yourself. I'm not out here, you know, pushing for therapy just because. Y'all need to go out here and find a therapist. Y'all need to find a spiritual leader. Y'all need to just really clean up your spirit because your spirit is disgusting and nasty. Have a blessed day. Breakfast Club, bitches! You want to finish or y'all need to just really clean up your spirit because your spirit is disgusting and nasty. Have a blessed day Breakfast club bitches!

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