The Breakfast Club - Best Of 2024 Full Interview: Mayor Eric Adams Speaks On The Migrant Crisis, Safety In New York, Policing, Homelessness + More
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Yep, and we got a special guest in the building today.
Ladies and gentlemen, the mayor.
Mayor Eric Adams is here.
Of New York City, Eric Adams.
And we also have lawyer and political commentator, Ola Yemi, O'Lauren.
Good morning.
Good morning, man.
How you feeling, man?
Good, good, good.
You know, even before we get into the conversation,
I was with Jordan the other day, my son,
and somehow your name came up.
And there was a group of young people in the room
talking about politics.
It's amazing how many people are into politics now.
And they came up with saying something about,
there were people saying that,
how you were trying to push Trump, push Trump, push Trump.
So Jordan pulled up this video, one of your shows,
where you broke down each time you were talking about
what was wrong about his race.
And just broke it down piece by piece.
And Jordan said, Dad, you know what?
Truth doesn't matter anymore with folks.
People don't care about truth.
They don't care about facts.
Facts no longer exist.
I've never pushed Trump.
I'd actually do the opposite.
Exactly.
But we are in a generation where everyone gets up in the morning, look on social media
and whatever's on there, they identify it as the facts.
The headlines.
Exactly.
No one goes into the body of the story.
Everybody's just, well, you know what?
This is what the headlines say and that's the reality of the story. Everybody's just, well, you know what, this is what the headlines say, and that's the reality of it.
And so it was like an eye-opener for him
of how I said, Jordan, for over and over again,
that one moment took away all those years of me saying,
have your own facts.
Don't let anybody define for you.
You define for yourself.
That's right.
And that's the power of this microphone.
That's the power of media, of putting those facts out. If we don't control the message, the message will
control us. We got a lot to talk about today. A lot.
You're a city. So today we reported earlier about congestion pricing, right?
Yes. What's your thoughts on that? I think it's gonna
cripple New York City. You got a lot of people, the bridges already, the tolls
already high. It's $17 I think for George Washington,
$11 for the midtown tunnels.
Parking is extremely high.
And now getting into the city,
it's gonna hurt a lot of people even driving the city.
And people are scared of the subways, you know?
With everything that's been going on,
people getting pushed into the train stations,
crime, and people are scared of New York City.
That's a lot, let's unpack this.
Let's do the first one first.
Right, right, right. What the hell is the congestion pricing happening? You've been holding on to a lot. I have, I have. You know, you've been train stations crime and people are scared of New York City. That's a lot, let's unpack, let's do the first one first.
What's the deal with the congestion pricing happening?
You've been holding on to a lot.
I have, I have.
You've been holding on to a lot.
So let's break it down for a moment,
let's break it down in pieces
so we can really understand it.
First, let's deal with the stuff
about people are scared of the subway.
When I became mayor, no one wanted to be on the subway.
We got over four million daily riders.
I was talking to, one of my guys was talking
to his sister the other day and she said,
you know, we have about two, three hundred crimes
happening on this subway system.
We have six felonies a day on our subway system
out of four million riders.
Look at those numbers.
Our subway system is a safe system
and we put in a different additional thousand officers
to do the high visibility to deal with the reality
because safety is not only felt, it's perceived.
So those six felonies, we gotta get rid of.
We're clear on that.
But people are back on our subway system.
But when you deal with specifically congesting prices,
a lot of people don't realize these are the city streets,
but we had no authority on it.
Albany passed a law and turned it over to the MTA.
This is the MTA's baby.
They should have allowed the city to be able to control
how congestion pricing was done.
So that $15, we were able to fight to get $100 million
to deal with the environmental impact in the Bronx.
We were able to fight to get those who are shift brokers
to get a discount, those who make less than $50,000 to get a discount.
But this was a bill that came out of Albany.
So you don't agree with it, or do you agree with it?
No.
I agree we've got to deal with something with the congestion in our city, but you don't
pass on the cost of that on low-income New Yorkers or those who have to come to Manhattan.
You may have to have going to your chemotherapy, and this is the doctor you have to go to. You You may have to have, go into your chemotherapy
and this is the doctor you have to go to.
You should not be here over there because of that.
Or people that live in the area.
They're saying that people that actually live in the area
when they drive, if they gotta drive uptown to the doctor
or they gotta drive, they get charged too.
Yeah, but I'm not feeling people that live in the area.
Central Manhattan, south of 60th Street
has the best transportation system on the globe.
You got cross town trains, you have south and North trains, you have buses that go across
town.
There's no place else on the globe that you have the greatest access to public transportation
than people South of 60th Street.
So I'm not failing them.
If they're saying that we don't want to pay, you know what?
You need to get on the train.
I take the train so you can get on the train. I'm talking low-income New Yorkers should not have to carry the burden of that and we ask to have more and a greater
Input and it's shaping of that but we don't
People are often realized we're creatures of Albany Albany passed the laws
We have to implement implement the laws that are down here
Yeah, I think you're right, that there is a difference between perception and fact
and how people feel about safety
and the way people feel about the subways.
And I think it's your own rhetoric about the subways
that has a lot to do with why people feel scared,
despite the fact that millions of people ride the subway
every day without incident,
but you've continued to fare monger about crime
in the subways, you've added 2,000 police officers,
despite the fact that you've acknowledged
that the subways are not that dangerous.
And I think there is, you're right.
Poor New Yorkers should not be the ones
who bear the brunt of this, but they will
if they already have the subway being turned into a place
that they have to fare, that there's a national guard,
that there's a hyper-visibility of police,
that they're trying to stop people with certain records
from even using them, and now you have this congestion price.
So how do you reconcile that?
Well, let's go before, first of all, I would love to give me the quotes of my rhetoric
because I'm lost in that.
Can you give me the quotes?
On that you fair monger about the subways?
Oh, you've consistently done that.
Since day one of your administration,
one of the first things you did was add a thousand officers
to the subway because you claimed that the subways
are unrideable.
You and Hokel did this and said how dangerous it is
and you recently did that when you deployed
the National Guard.
But that wasn't my question, Queen.
My question was, what was my fear among you?
What did I say that's your fear?
You continuously say.
I could point to a number of videos and quotes and everything from you, but you've said repeatedly
that the subways are dangerous, that New York is dangerous.
You complain about crime relentlessly.
So what I'm saying to you is, if you are saying that New York is the safest city, it's one
of the safest big cities in this country, which is true, and you're recognizing that
the subway stations are in fact
Not half as dangerous as they're presented to be I'm saying
How do you reconcile how your rhetoric has played into people's fear and not even his rhetoric?
I would say the actions because she's right if you tell us which is definitely safe
It's different what the same thing though
You put a thousand police officers in the subway two thousand police officers in the subway that don't make us feel say we think something's wrong
If you know, let me let me first
Let me peel back again because you gotta always peel back this stuff,
because oftentimes how you depict in the media
that I don't control is how people interpret you.
I didn't put the National Guard in the subway.
The governor did.
I know, but I know what you said.
But you said, Eric.
You stood with Governor Kathy Hoco
and you co-signed that decision, you did.
And I'm not saying this as someone
who's following social media, I'm saying that as an attorney in the city and an activist
who follows everything that you do. Yeah, if you, I'm glad you do. But then you realize how I turned
the city around. If you follow everything I do, you realize that I would say no, but we could get to
that next. Loosen up your tie, man. It's gonna be a long day. And I enjoy every moment of it.
You know, because this is what I do. You know, when you come with a serious history,
if you follow everything I do,
you know how long I've been doing this.
And you know what my record is.
So let's peel back what you just stated.
When fear is perceived and felt, that's what fear is.
So no matter, as I shared,
that we have six felony crimes a day
with four million riders. If people feel unsafe, that we have six felony crimes a day with four million rioters.
If people feel unsafe, when we get into subway system, I ride to subway system, I talk to
commuters and I say, what are you feeling and how do I help you with that fear?
They say, we see more visible uniform officers in our subway system.
We're going to feel safer.
We got it.
Oh, let me, can I, can I, can I, can I?
You can talk. You can feel it back.
So we got it that the numbers are down. We got it that we're back on the subway system
post-COVID. But when we see, this is what the public is saying, when we see the visible presence
of a uniform officer, we feel safer. Now you may say, Eric, I don't want to see a visible
presence of a uniform officer. And that's cool, but that's not what the overwhelming number of New
Yorkers are saying. And I'm saying to you, the New York City Comptroller Brad
Lander recently put out a report finding that 50% of the city is disappointed and
does not feel safe based on your rhetoric about the subways and your
over-police presence. Okay, but sister, first of all, that's not what they says based on
Eric's rhetoric. That's not- you can't use- No, no, no, no. They didn't say- did they say based on
Eric's rhetoric? Do you want to talk about based on your specific- No, no, no. They didn't say, did they say based on Eric's rhetoric?
Do you wanna talk about based on your specific?
No, no, sister, I'm going back to what you said
because you're the attorney.
You're doing the fact. They have.
Did they say based on Eric's rhetoric?
Yes, they have.
The city is, there are, they have multiple reports.
The New York Times, the Gothamist, the city comptroller,
and the federal monitor who reports,
who reports, who's tasked with making sure
that NYPD and Rikers are in compliance with the law
have both submitted reports saying
that since you became mayor, there's been a return
of stop and frisk, that there have been over 15,000 stops,
97% of whom have been on black and Hispanic people,
a fourth of those stops and searches
have been unconstitutional and they've yielded
very few results, so peel it back.
Let's peel it back.
Eric Adams, 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement,
testified in federal court that the federal court judge
stated, based on Eric's testimony, we are going to rule
against the police department. We were dealing with a million stops a
year when I was with 100 Black Saint Law Enforcement. My advocacy is what
turned it around from that million stops a year. Look at the numbers right now.
I am looking at the numbers. So my advocacy and showing how to do policing
correctly because it's not that you want to eradicate proper police practices, you must
make sure they do them right. And that is what I have been able to accomplish in this city.
Taking over 13,000 guns off the streets of the city of New York who the victims are black and
brown people. When I go to community meetings and talk to community residents,
they don't tell me,
Eric, we don't want more police.
They say, Eric, we want our police
doing their jobs correctly.
And that is what I'm doing.
The federal monitor,
the federal monitor who is tasked
with ensuring that NYPD is following the law,
conducted an analysis.
Came under who?
Conducted an analysis that happened eight years ago,
but they're still here moderating what you're doing.
And they said that you have brought back stop
and frisk policies that are worse than they saw
even during the Bloomberg era.
But more importantly, they analyzed the neighborhood.
I could show you, the report is available,
and I know it's been available to you
because your spokesperson has commented on it.
They did an analysis of over 10 precincts,
10 different precincts that is factual.
There's a federal monitor reporting to Judge T. Swain on it
and presenting the information.
And say what?
They said that, yes, listen, let me finish
so you can peel it back.
They conducted an analysis of 10 different precincts
and of the stops of 10 different precincts,
they found that 97% of them, by the way,
of the neighborhood safety teams that were disbanded
in 2020 because of their disproportionate abuse
against black and Hispanic people that you revived, they analyzed 10 of those different neighborhood safety teams
and found that their conductings, 97% of their stops on black and brown people and a quarter
of them are unconstitutional.
That's what the federal monitor said, not me.
Yeah, yeah.
And at the same time, let's be clear on this because what you're giving the perception
of, this is a federal monitor that came in long before I was mayor.
Can we agree on that? made. Yes, yes.
They monitor NYPD, not you specifically, you're the mayor.
Right.
Number two, I have been the mayor for two years and three months.
We've had a tradition of over policing for generations.
And this is worse now that you're here.
That I fought for.
We had issues of over policing for generations that I fought for.
We acknowledge what my history is in this place.
So two years and three months,
we are turning around not only over-policing,
but we're turning around the crime.
Because when I came to this city,
we had a 40% increase in crime.
And most of that crime, black and brown communities.
Black and brown communities.
You became mayor after a global pandemic
in which there was record unemployment,
business loss, homelessness,
and you're not drawing that connection to it.
You're making a note, but what I'm saying is,
crime is connected to what is happening in the city
and the experiences of people.
This is the most expensive city in the world.
We had a global pandemic where businesses closed
and people out of work.
So if you saw crime, it was connected to that.
Highest level of private sector jobs, come on.
Also, you're saying that you've turned it around,
NYPD's abuses, but just last year,
we paid out $150 million in settling police misconduct
from NYPD, and that was double the number,
that's double the number in police misconduct
since you became mayor.
I noticed something.
I noticed how much passion and commitment you have.
As one of your constituents.
And I'm one of my constituents too now.
You know what I'm saying?
And I grew up in this city.
I noticed, and this is what I hear often
of those who articulate when a person in a blue uniform
commits an inappropriate act.
Balance that with what we're doing
to take the violence out of our communities.
Because I know what I hear
when I go to these community meetings.
I know what I hear when I go speak to these mothers
who lost their children to violence.
I know what I hear.
You are not even talking about that at all.
You know, first of all,
I don't think New Yorkers feel safe.
I was a public defender.
New Yorkers don't feel safe.
But that's what you said.
And my original question was about how you relate to that.
You said that New Yorkers don't feel safe. So there was a poll said. That's what you said. And my original question was about how you relate to that. You said that New Yorkers don't feel safe. Yeah. So there was a poll that
came out last week. Yeah. Right. Right. And in that poll that came out by the CBC, it stated that
the priorities of Mayor Adams is moving the city in the right direction. My priority. Now remember,
two years, three months, brother. Two years, three months. I inherited a pandemic. I inherited 180,000 migrants and asylum seekers
that can't work, that we have to house them every day.
I'd inherit-
You called for a lot of them too, though.
No, we didn't, brother.
I said it was a sanctuary city.
You told them-
Okay, let's see.
That's why it's important to have this conversation
because sanctuary city and the migrants and asylum seekers are two different issues.
Sanctuary city, if you're undocumented,
we can't turn you over to ICE or authority.
Migrants and asylum seekers were paroled into here.
They're here legally, they were paroled into.
But what the federal government did and Governor Abbott did,
they said, we're gonna send them up to Chicago,
New York, Boston, and the federal government is saying,
Eric, you can't allow them to work,
you gotta give them housing,
you can't stop the buses from coming in,
you cannot turn them over to ICE,
all of that is illegal if I do that, we're breaking law.
So when people look at the migrants that are here,
we didn't call people to come here,
they were sent here by Governor Abbott,
and the failure to secure our borders
is allowing this to continue.
And we're not getting any money from them.
We got about $100 million out of a $4 billion price tag.
Look at Chicago right now.
Look at what's happening in Chicago right now.
My brother Mayor Johnson over there,
what's happening with him.
Look what's happening in Boston.
Look what's happening in Houston, Los Angeles.
And then do a comparative analysis
of what's happening on our streets here what's happening in Houston, Los Angeles, and then do a comparative analysis
of what's happening on our streets here.
While we dealt with that crisis,
turned around our economy,
outpacing the state and reading and math of our young people,
I've been on Rikers Island more than any mayor
in the history of the city talking with inmates
and correction officers to turn around
what's happening on Rikers Island.
I know you got to Rikers in 2022 when there were three deaths back to back because
corrections officers left their posts and allowed it to happen. You went to
Rikers to express your support for the corrections officer. I know you go to
Rikers. What I do want you to do Mayor Adams.
But you keep giving out misinformation.
It's not misinformation Mayor Adams. I'm quoting the monitor.
I was on Rikers Island this week, this week, with a group of 12 young brothers who recommitted
themselves to Christ.
I went to see them in the morning.
We prayed together because they said, this is not the first time you've been here.
You've been here over and over visiting us, talking to us, nurturing us, you know, because
I know what it's like to be locked up
because I was locked up as a child.
I know you were.
So I know what it's like to be treated unfairly
because I'm dyslexic.
When you do an analysis of the number of young brothers
and sisters who are in Rikers or in jail,
they're dealing with learning disabilities
because they were never given the support that they have.
That's why I have dyslexia screening
so we can catch people who are thrown overboard
before they get thrown overboard.
So we have a philosophical disagreement.
No, I do like, I'm glad that you brought up Rikers.
Your feelings towards police is different from mine.
These are not my, this is not about my feelings to police.
This is about the actual statistics
that I presented from the federal monitor
monitoring with you.
What do you say about her statistics though?
I mean, these are statistics. These are federal monitor. Do you, are you disputing from the federal monitor monitoring which you know. What do you say about her statistics though? I mean these are statistics.
These are federal monitor. Are you disputing with the federal monitor and the actual and the controller?
Think about this for a moment. Controller Brad Lander. Okay please. If we're gonna throw people in names of who we are
independent sources, he should not be one of them. Think about this federal monitor for a moment.
The one that was independently elected by the people of New York placed there.
But I was independently elected also. And he's in there.
And I'm addressing you. So think about this for a moment. The federal monitor wants to take over
RICUS, okay? RICUS has been dysfunctional for generations. I came in, decreased violence,
put in real incentive programs for young people there, but I didn't do it from a distance.
I went to Rikers and walked the halls and talked with inmates.
We're doing workshops and support groups with inmates and find out what do you need to be
here.
We instituted real turnaround programs there with the sisters that's now in the correction
officer, I mean, that's the commission of corrections there.
So I didn't do like other mayors.
I didn't sit back and say, let me just turn my back on what's right. I said to those right kids inmates when I got elected,
I'm coming here, I'm going to see what you're going through. I want to make sure you leave here
better than how you got here in the first place. And we started instituting programs to do so.
So that same federal monitor, go look at the federal prisons. That federal monitor want to
take over our prisons after I had it only two years and three months.
No, they wanted to take over my first year, although violence was going down.
And people say, well, Eric, people are dying on righteous.
Look at how they died.
People are coming into righteous in terrible medical conditions.
And not getting their medical appointments.
It's not that they were dying because correction officers were killing them. People were coming in with
heart problems, drug problems, overdosing on drugs. When will people in Rikers start to feel that?
Because I know I got people that are in Rikers right now serving time and they
hate it. They think it's disgusting. They're trying to rate away into it.
Respectfully Mayor Adams, fundamentally the things that you're saying is untrue.
You actually cut 17 million million Ws for classes
for people at Rikers to re-enter society.
Those were cut under your administration.
Check out the programs that you said.
Those were cut under your administration.
We were spending millions of dollars.
31 people have died at Rikers
since Eric Adams became mayor.
We were spending millions of dollars
for these professional folks to do these programs, reentry programs, millions
of dollars, seven people sitting inside the class.
When I came into office, I said, wait a minute, why are we spending so much money on programs,
but our people are still in these bad conditions?
People have prophesied poverty.
They're making so much money off of black and brown people
because it's a lucrative business to come up with all these different
programs, all these different ways, and then when you go to them and say, let me
see the results of the programs that we're paying you millions of dollars for.
And then you look and see, well who's in charge of these programs? They don't look like us!
Moments ago you said you instituted programs and when I brought up the fact
that you actually cut programs now you're anti program
Okay, 31 at least at least 31 people have died at Riker since you became mayor
That's why they're pushing for a receivership.
Program fatherless no more this was this was the this was the brother the pastor fatherless no more is called the program
I would encourage you to come and check it out
This brother here instead of saying pay me millions of dollars to do a program to
turn around the lives of our young brothers and rankings, we're not, he doesn't want money.
He's committed to the cause.
But you have these professional programs that were in place.
And when I went to them and say, show me the results of what you've done in these programs.
Show me what we produce for our millions of dollars.
As in many of these programs in the city,
that I'm saying, we no longer paying y'all
to just play us year after year.
So Father, Listen No More is turning around the lives
of people not being paid millions of dollars for it.
If we're really true to what we say we wanna do,
why do we have to pay you millions of dollars to do it?
You know, why don't you come on Rikers like I do and volunteer?
Why don't you come and really be committed?
Because people are not committed to us, brother.
They've been playing us.
This is a street hustle that have been going on for years
and people have eaten off of the dysfunctionality
of watching us stay in these permanent states of being.
A lot of people are upset too.
They feel like the prison reform is bad for New York City.
They're saying people do crimes, they get out immediately,
and then they commit the crimes.
We just seen an officer that passed away a couple of days ago,
rest in peace to him,
and always healing energy to his family.
But they say that individual was arrested for a gun
and has a record the size of we don't know what.
And they're saying that people are doing crimes
and they're getting back out.
Officers don't wanna arrest people. A lot of officers don't even wanna be officers anymore saying that people are doing crimes and they're getting back out. Offices don't want to arrest people.
A lot of offices don't even want to be officers anymore because the people that they arrest
and get out so fast.
So what do you say to that?
And brother, let me tell you something.
I say this term all the time.
Idealism collides with realism.
This far leftist mindset that believes we should not have a criminal justice system
in place, we're going to look like some of these other cities
that you're seeing with a lack
of a criminal justice system in place.
We're losing correction officers,
we're losing district attorneys,
we're losing police officers,
we're losing probation officers,
we're losing school safety agents.
Every piece of our public safety apparatus
that the everyday working class person wants, we're seeing it all of a sudden erode and we're gonna
lose the foundation of our prosperity and that's public safety. So when you
look at these cases, we have three problems in this city that if you dig
into it, you'll see how they continue to intersection between each other.
One, we have a recidivist problem. This is not true.
It's a revolving door. 38 people that assaulted transit workers were arrested 1100 times. 545
people that were arrested for shoplifting were arrested 7500 times. The person who shot that police officer, his driver was just arrested for
having a gun in April of last year. Now he's back doing the same thing all over again.
These guys are arrested 10, 15 times. It's a small population of people that are repeated
offenders. The second problem that we have in the city is a severe mental health problem.
I'm not talking about just somebody that's depressed,
someone that's going through a bad day.
I'm talking about a severe mental health problem.
Go look at these cases of assaulting passengers,
pushing people on the subway track.
The cat that pushed a person on the subway track
the other day, in and out of the system.
And so when I came into office, I said,
we can't keep just walking by these people
that are dealing with severe mental health issues. We need to
give them wraparound services and care. The far left pushed against me.
You're inhumane. You just want to take people off the streets. No, I said no.
In this city, people are not gonna live in encampments. They're gonna live in tents.
Go look at Los Angeles. Go look at Oregon. Go look at all these other cities where
you see tent cities, San Francisco.
You see tent cities.
People, when I went out in January and February
when I got elected in 2022,
I went out without my security team
and started visiting people in tents and encampments
and started talking to them.
Bipolar, schizophrenic, human waste,
drug paraphernalia, stale food.
They didn't even realize they were in that state.
One cat was an ex-police officer that I spoke with,
didn't even realize, started seeing and talking to himself.
I said, I'm not gonna do this.
My city's not gonna be like San Francisco.
It's not gonna be like these other cities
where you're watching people living on streets
in tents and tents.
You don't see that in New York City.
Third problem we have is random acts of violence.
Those random acts of violence are being highlighted.
If you have 24 hours in a day,
and something that happens to you in an hour in a day,
you start to define yourself as that entire day.
Those random acts of violence are plastered on social media,
they're plastered on newspapers.
And the NYPD Twitter page.
They're plastered on everything.
People begin to believe that,
oh, I'm living in a city that's out of control.
We are not.
She made a good point though,
if NYPD is reposting that kind of stuff,
what are we supposed to think?
I said at the beginning.
Everybody got a phone, brother.
No, no, NYPD's page is doing this,
it's recently been there,
so much so that they're arguing with journalists on there.
It's NYPD on their own Twitter pages
that are posting and sensationalizing crime.
And I said this at the beginning,
you said that there's a difference
between perception and reality,
how people feel afraid versus how safe New York actually is.
And I agree with you, but I said that it's your own rhetoric
and NYPD's rhetoric that plays into that.
And you did it just now because the reality
is a condition of release for everybody, for every crime,
whether it be non-bail eligible eligible or bail eligible is that if you
commit a crime or you're re-arrested that you bail can and will be set on
you so that's the first thing. Second of all they have conducted multiple studies
but the Brennan Center literally just put out one less than 2% of anybody in
New York City that's released on bail is arrested for any violent crime.
More importantly in the same breath that you want to sensationalize me,
want to highlight and point out an officer was killed the other day,
which is a rare occurrence across the United States,
but let alone in New York,
New York police officers have killed at least seven people this year,
including a 19-year-old.
An NYPD officer killed a 19-year-old in Queens yesterday.
I'm not going to dismiss the loss of a life of an innocent person
that wears a uniform to protect us.
But you do, of the 31 people dead at Rikers.
A rare occurrence.
And the 19-year-old killed yesterday.
A rare occurrence.
I feel like I don't want to take you out of context and I don't want people to all of
a sudden criticize that you've been dismissive of a young man being shot and killed.
Mayor Adams, that's not going to work on me.
I'm not trying to broke anything on you.
I lost a member of the police department
the same way I go to see the mother of 11-month-old baby
that was shot in the head when I first became man.
I sat in a hospital with her.
The same way I go visit these mothers
who lose their children to gun violence, I go see them.
Yes, but not the mothers of the people who are dying in Rikers.
Just as I go to see the family member of a slain police
officer, I go visit those parents that
lose their loved ones in violence.
Are you visiting the family of the?
Do you do that?
First of all, yesterday I held a Riker.
I represented hundreds.
You went to visit the family member of a slain officer?
No, not the slain officer.
Of course you didn't.
No, but what about the 19-year-old
that was killed yesterday by NYPD in Queens
when he called for help? Have you said anything about that? Are you visiting them?
First of all, that's- Is New York safe or not Mayor? I'm sorry. Is New York safer or not?
Okay, we just showed the graph that we put up, right? There's a graph that shows how many
people murders based on 100,000 people. It shows a graph, each city, the large cities in America.
New York is the least.
New York is the safest big city in America.
Should we say crime is down or should we say it's safe?
Because I think it's a different case saying crime is down
and saying something is safe.
And say, well, randoms actually-
If I'm 330 pounds and I lose 30, I'm still fat.
Right, right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
But random acts of...
That's why what I must do with New Yorkers is give them the facts, not give them what
people are spewing out there.
The facts are clear.
As I've always stated, we are the safest big city in America.
And as people talk about reporting these reports that come out and reporting how things are done,
no one wants to report the fact that everyone is saying
across the globe, New York is the safest big city
in America.
Are we trending the right way, Oliyemi?
I don't dispute that New York is safe.
What I dispute is how Mayor Adams' own rhetoric
is the reason why people don't feel safe.
I agree that New Yorkers don't feel safe
because of the way that NYPD, The Post,
and Mayor Adams go about sensationalizing
crime and I'm acting you to talk about it differently.
Okay, and listen, and you have a right to your opinion and your belief. You and I have a
philosophical disagreement. You, as many.
It's not about the philosophical disagreement.
Many people on the far left disagree with me. You know, many people on the far left, they say,
Eric, people should be allowed to sleep on the streets no matter what, they should be allowed to sit on your stoop
and inject themselves with drugs,
they should be allowed to go in stores
and steal whatever they want,
they shouldn't have to pay on the subway system,
they should be allowed to carry a gun
and be able to come out the next day.
Like, people disagree with me all the time.
That is not my opinion.
Earlier you asked me to point out the rhetoric.
Earlier you asked me to point out specifically what you say
to Fair Monger about crime,
so I just would like to say,
exhibit A, like what you literally just did.
You continue to say in this
that New York is the safest big city,
while simultaneously you are the one
sensationalizing the crime.
I point out facts, I point out facts.
Wishes and facts is it.
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All I know is when I came in office and I stated that I wanted to take, I'm not allowing
people to sleep in tents on our streets.
They're going to get the care that they deserve.
The far left attack.
No, we attacked you because you made it so that people could be
involuntarily committed.
Yes.
Listen, if I'm sitting down with you brother, and I'm in a tent with you on
encampment and I'm seeing human waste in the corner, I'm seeing stale food, I'm
seeing drug power for Nellie and I'm hearing you talking about you only here
until the spaceship comes to take you to your next planet.
You need to be involuntarily committed.
Didn't I just say about sensationalized kinds of stories?
No, this is what I saw.
This is what I saw.
This is what I saw when I went around.
Because the activists that were actually there
at the encampments you had torn down, you weren't there,
but they were there when they were being arrested.
People are also upset that they feel like
too much money's going to migrants
and you're cutting too many programs, right?
They're saying you're cutting pre-K funding.
170 million in pre-K funding.
They're saying that you're cutting
so many different funding for other people.
Love this question, brother.
Love this question.
So people are feeling like, you know,
they never have money for us,
but as soon as migrants come in the country,
they find money.
And listen, people have a right to be angry.
You know who's even more angry than they are?
I am.
I've been to Washington 10 times,
10 times to talk about this subject.
So people got a right to be pissed off
of what they're doing to New York City.
How can we fix that?
Where these like, I mean, we cut a lot of programs.
170 million in pre-K funding.
Hold on, let's talk about that.
One day these kids couldn't go to school
because migrants took over the school one day.
No, that wasn't accurate.
Okay, break it down.
First let's deal with that.
We always utilize our school buildings during the time of crisis.
And if we're saying to ourselves, if there's some amazing,
when we had the major fire when I first became mayor,
and we saw that fire in the Bronx,
In the Bronx, yeah.
We had to take a school to take care of those people
who lived in the building temporarily.
When we have major storms, we take a school to use it temporarily.
Schools is part of the resources of the city.
And thank God we have something called remote learning,
where people still, young people still able to go on to learn.
But we can't say that we will use a school building during an emergency,
but we're not going to do it for children that are migrants and asylum seekers.
You publicly oppose remote learning and remote work.
Here are the things that are crucial
about the migrant and assignment seekers
that we need to put to rest that people don't realize.
Number one, I don't have the legal authority
to stop the buses from coming in.
That's against the law.
I don't have the authority to allow them to work,
which they want to do. That's against the law. I don't have the authority to allow them to work, which they want to do. That's against the law.
I don't have the authority to say,
I'm not going to house you and give you three meals a day.
It's against the law for me to do it.
I don't have the authority to deport someone
that commits a crime here in this city
and turn them over the ice.
That's against the law.
So what we had to do was figure out how do we house people?
And so some people say,
whatever, you giving them more than what you're giving us.
Go to the Herc centers where they are, the shelters.
The restrooms are outside.
The showers are outside.
They're sleeping on cots.
They get three basic meals a day.
And when I go visit them, they say, we don't want any of this from you.
All we want to do is have the right to rope so we can provide for ourselves.
Well, in less than 30 days, migrants won't be allowed to work per federal guidelines any of this from you, all we want to do is have the right to vote so we can provide for ourselves.
In less than 30 days, migrants won't be allowed
to work per federal guidelines,
and they won't be allowed to be housing in NYC anymore.
So where would they go after that?
They're finding their way.
Out of the 184,000, 60% of them found their way,
like many of us have done.
You notice you don't hear about the-
Where they gonna get housing in 30 days though?
Many of them, we're giving them intense care.
We're not just telling you come here, hang out for 30 days and we're not going to help
you.
No.
In those 30 days, and if you're a young person, you get 60 days.
But in those 30 days or 60 days, we're giving you intense care.
We're showing you how to find your way in our city.
We're showing you how to go about applying for housing, how to go about applying for the services that you need.
And some people are saying,
we never wanted to come to New York at all.
We wanted to come to another city,
but Governor Alvin said, no, we're sending you to New York.
Think about this for a moment.
We got thousands of Ukrainian migrants, thousands.
Do you hear about them?
No, they can work. Just Mexican and Africans is about them? No. They could work.
Just Mexican and Africans is all we hear about.
They could work. They have the right to work. So we wouldn't even be having this conversation
if we gave them the authority to work. And you know the real irony of this? We need workers.
I need lifeguards. I need full service workers. Many of these migrants from Venezuela are
nurses and other professionals. I need people to backstretch workers.
Other states are telling me, Eric, we will take the migrants and asylum seekers if they
just allow them to work.
We're not going to take them and just have them sit around every day.
If they're allowed to work, we would take them.
I agree with you.
The national government.
She agrees with you.
I agree with you that migrants should be able to-
She agrees with a lot of stuff.
Trust me.
No, no.
I trust you that I do not believe-
She's on that train. She's on that train. I'm sitting here, Mayor Adams. She agree with a lot of stuff. No, I trust you that I do not believe.
She's on that train.
I'm sitting here Mayor Adams.
She's gonna be dialing 911.
First of all, I ride the subway every day.
I've worked as a public defender in this city
and represented thousands of people.
So please spare me, no I'm not.
You think more police make people feel safe,
especially black and brown people?
No, they don't.
No, black and brown people?
Yes brother.
Oh my God.
I just had a town hall yesterday.
All these black and brown folks inside that town hall.
Number one issue they came up with.
We want to feel safer.
We want more cops on our borders.
People want to feel safer doesn't mean they want more cops.
And if they did, New York City has the most police in the country.
We have the largest police department in the country.
How many more police do you want, Mayor Adams?
You go do an analysis across this city and communities of color and ask them,
I live in Flatbush.
Do you want us to take your police away or do you want more police?
I guarantee you, you would be lost to find someone in these communities of color.
What about when you add resources to that list?
Do you want more resources to get to the root of these issues?
That's what people want. Think about the resources we've done. Think about what we've done. someone in these communities. But what about when you add resources to that list? Do you want more resources to get to the root of these issues?
That's what people want.
Think about the resources we've done.
Check out what we've done.
Advocates, the far left, they have
been calling for summer youth employment for years.
We gave them $100,000.
Never been done before in history.
Never. They've been calling done before in history, never.
They've been calling for investment in NYCHA.
We put NYCHA as our top program. When I was doing doing COVID, I was knocking on doors, handling our mask
to NYCHA residents because the city refused to do so.
And people were saying, why are you giving masks to those people?
When I was knocking on the doors, I would ask the residents,
how your children doing in school?
They said, Eric, we don't even have high-speed broadband. I said, when I get elected we
gonna change that. Now, NYCHA residents all have free high-speed broadband so
their children could have access like other children. We are doing the NYCHA
land trust. No one was able to do it. We put more people in affordable housing
using the voucher system than the history of the program. We've transitioned more people out of
shelter into housing in one year in the history of the city. When I went to do
an analysis with all of my gang members and I asked them the question, you know,
how many of you have learning disabilities? How many of you are dyslexic?
All of your gang members? That's what you need. That's what you need.
I meet regularly with people who are
You kick it with the gangs?
No, I meet regularly with people
who...
You met up with some drug dealers at Burger King
I'm glad you wrote that down. Hold on, let me just finish this
one piece because this is important.
We noticed
when we did the analysis across the country
not only in New York, across the country,
30 to 40 percent of the inmates in jail and in prison have a learning disability.
So when I sat down with the chancellor, I said, listen, we can't wait until people, thank you,
until people break the law. We did dyslexia screening in our schools, and we were able to
now catch it and give them
the wraparound services they need. So I want to talk about Burger King. So I'm
sitting at home and I look in the paper they say there's drug dealers selling
drugs in front of Burger King. So I call up the precinct commander I said what is
this? We don't have an open drug market. He says mayor we did a complete
operation, buying bus,
went to see what drugs they're selling,
who's selling drugs.
He said, these guys are not selling drugs.
These guys are homeless.
And they just come to feel as though
they could be around others.
So when I went on Sunday, I went down
and did what other people don't do.
I spoke with them.
I said, brothers, can we sit down and talk?
Let me find out what's going on in your lives.
We sat in Burger King, had a conversation.
Sharp Brothers.
So they weren't even drug dealers?
No, they were not drug dealers.
They were just homeless brothers
that just wanted to be a place where people,
they could communicate among others,
like other folks do, when people have dog parks
and people sit on the steps of a museum.
And so we sat there and had a conversation and we were able to identify what services.
And what I learned from them, you can have all the services you want, but if people don't
know the entry ramp to those services, then what good is it?
So now we're going to devise a program that they're going to help me devise on how to
reach out to those services,
then I want those brothers to become recruiters,
to go inside the shelters.
But you're not gonna do that
if you are afraid to get on the ground
and have these one-on-one conversation.
I've been here, man.
I know what it is to buy a nickel bag
and make eight joints so mommy can feed herself.
I know what it is to run numbers.
I know what it is to do all those things
So I'm comfortable among my folks and the problem that a lot of people don't understand is they don't know how authentic
I am about this work
But they're gonna look back over it and say we had a mayor that came from us and delivered for us
Even the billions of dollars that I'm putting into MWB ease that we've never had before
People gonna look back over these years and say,
this brother was real about what he's doing
because that's why I'm doing it.
I see you people raving about it.
I have two more questions.
How do debit cards for migrants compare
to New York City welfare benefit?
I like that. That's a good question
because that was one of the biggest myths.
And I think the Daily News just did a piece today
of saying why this makes sense.
So here's what happened.
We were paying people, by law we got to feed them three meals a day.
We got to feed the migrants three meals a day.
When I told the team we got to bring down the cost of this by 30% because it was costing
us too much money, $12 billion over three years, $4 billion already.
One of the places was food.
We were seeing that we were having a 10% food waste.
People were getting food that they didn't want
and they discarded.
So my team came together,
First Deputy Mayor Sheena Wright,
first black woman to be a First Deputy Mayor.
She came up with a team called Mocify, M-W-E, black product.
They said that we can give people food cards where they can only purchase food and baby supplies. You will
save $600,000 a month in costs. People will buy the food that they want and not
giving it to them from someone from some large conglomerate. Then they will have to spend the cards in the bodegas, the supermarkets, the local stores,
so the money stays inside the community, and the program is run by a person of color.
We're saving over $7 million a year.
We have no more food waste because people are buying what they want.
It's a black-owned company
So we put money back into a black businesses
Like I said, I was going going to do and you cannot buy anything but food or baby supplies
It's a complete win, but people heard it and it was sensationalized. Oh you're giving money to my they only get $13 a day for those three meals
It's a winning program. Yeah, it's not that I have a problem with it
I said again It's a winning program. Oh, you mean? Is it a win? Yeah.
It's not that I have a problem with it.
It's that, again, the sensationalism has a lot to do with the fact that you got up and
declared that we have this migrant crisis.
And I thought it was interesting, your earlier point about the difference between how Ukrainian
migrants are being received versus migrants, black and Latino migrants.
Because again, you gave a town hall where you were the one who gave this speech and
you incentivized New Yorkers to feel this way.
Feel which way?
This feel like there is a migrant crisis where the migrants are being treated differently
than them, where they're getting resources, that the migrants are getting resources that
are not being given to them because you were the one who presented it to the city that
you had to cut budgets across because of the migrant crisis even though recently you decided
that you all actually do have the money to handle the migrant issue that just wasn't
publicized as much.
So this goes back to my original discussion.
You're an attorney and I'm amazed.
I think your art is, I'm just gonna throw it out there
and make people feel that way towards Eric.
Mayor Adams, before you say it,
there's an entire council that knows your line.
Sister, let me, we still don't have the money
for the migrant.
We're spending $12 billion in three years.
$4 billion already.
What I said to New Yorkers at that town hall,
this issue will bankrupt, will destroy our city.
This issue, not to-
You called specific countries.
I remember you calling the countries
that the migrants were from.
They weren't the Ukrainian migrants.
You weren't talking about them.
So what happened when we don't have money?
Hold on, sister, sister.
I did not call the countries
where they were from.
I went to the country- It's on video, Mayor Adams.
I went to Ecuador, Colombia, Mexico,
to get a full understanding of the flow.
I went to the southern border.
Just as I went to those brothers in Burger King,
I went to the southern border to understand the problem.
I remember you started that tour
before you were going to go to go DC
and when you were going to go to DC
to talk to Joe Biden about the migrant crisis,
but you were stopped because they had the FBI
had to take your phones.
Good Lord, you just make up stuff.
And they didn't make that up?
That's reported, the FBI didn't seize your phones?
Sister.
The FBI didn't seize your phones.
No.
They didn't investigate your top aides.
That's not happening.
What did you just say?
You just say.
I said I remember the tour that you went on
when you were going to the border,
when you were going to the DC to talk to
the president Biden.
I came back because somebody had to take my phone?
Because it stopped.
I said I remember on the day of,
I remember it because it was recorded.
You got amnesia.
Oh, me and the news.
Me and the media.
No, no, no.
Your phone's worth seeing.
This is important.
This is important.
I want you to understand the hypocrisy of people.
When the law enforcement does something every day,
it's bad.
But when they do something against Eric Adams,
oh, it's good.
Come on, let's think about my mind.
No, I didn't say, I said what happened.
I didn't say that it was good.
I don't think it's good that our mayor
is being investigated for illegal campaigns.
I don't think that's good. I came back being investigated for a legal campaign. I don't think that's good.
I came back because of not that they had to take my phones.
That is not true.
And you should-
I said it happened that day.
No, it did not happen that day.
I said it was reported before you were going.
It wasn't reported that day.
Yes, it was, Mayor Adam.
It was reported wrong.
Where your phone?
Did the FBI see your phone?
Did they search your top ads?
And not that day.
Did they search the home of several people?
Okay.
That's what I said.
And I didn't say that was a good thing.
I don't think it's good that our mayor's being investigated
by the FBI.
So madam, so what happens when New York City
doesn't have the money for migrants?
And then, you know, the migrants are in this city
and they probably have to do what most poor people
have to do, which is sometimes resort to crime.
How is that gonna make the city safer?
Right, and that's part of the problem.
Imagine having a group of people 18 to 24 years old
and being told you can't do anything all day.
When you go to these herks
and you're seeing these young people
and I walk in and I talk with them,
some of them come from West Africa, South America,
Central America, all they're saying is,
man, we just wanna work.
We don't wanna sit around here all day and not do anything.
That is why the real focus should be on our national
government that's saying, why are you doing this to New York?
Why are you?
Check out what they're doing.
They're doing it to New York.
They're doing it to Chicago.
They're doing it to Los Angeles.
They're doing it to Houston.
What is the same in all those cities?
All black mayors.
All black mayors.
And so what we're saying, same thing that I'm going through
here, my brother Johnson is going through.
My sister Bass is going through.
My brother Turner is going through.
So our folks, what they wanted to happen,
Governor Abbott wanted to happen,
we're gonna to turn these
cities against their mayors.
We're going to create this environment where they're all going to go against their mayors.
Go Google what they're doing to my brother in Chicago.
Go Google what they're doing to Sister Bazz.
So the cities have now turned against these black mayors that are making real change for
the first time.
By over-belicing black people.
And they're using this to say,
okay, these black mayors are not competent.
They can't run their cities.
They're getting everything to the minors
and asylum seekers.
This was a perfectly executed plan
that we are buying into.
To make black mayors look bad across the country.
Exactly, and when we're doing just the opposite,
I inherited a city that was in disarray.
Disarray.
No matter how much you do your analysis, you got to walk away with, this brother got more
private sector jobs in the history of the city.
We reached that point.
This brother had his bond rate increase.
40% increase in crime when I came in would now drop those crimes.
13,000 guns removed off our city.
Outpacing the state in reading and writing
for our children in the public school system.
62 million tourists are back here.
More housing vouchers.
You go down the list, invest in NYCHA.
You go down the list, you're seeing a brother
that managed the city that people say was unmanageable,
and we did it in two years and three months. It's my last question.
Do you believe the Biden administration's border policies
have fueled the worst border crisis in U.S. history?
In New York, you said New York history or in America history?
I'll leave it at New York.
I think it definitely impacts us,
but I think it's an accumulation
of what the White House is failing to do
and the Republican-led Congress is failing to do and the Republican-led Congress
is failing to do and other administrations.
People don't want to deal with the fact that we need real immigration reform.
Now let me tell you what that shit look like.
Do you know right here in our country where we are decreasing in population in many cities?
We're hurting for people in many cities.
When people come across the border, the national government should say, you're going to go
to this city where we need populations.
Stay there for three years and then you can go anywhere you want in the country.
We need to use this crisis as an opportunity.
Our cities are hurting.
In Kentucky, they're hurting for backstretch workers in the racing industry.
We should be saying, you want to come here?
You're going to go to Kentucky?
You're going to stay for three years?
You're going to learn how to be in the country and work.
That's how we should do it.
Instead of just saying, go wherever you want, and allowing this to be politicized by the
governor of Texas and say, we're going to now, we're going to hurt Chicago, hurt New
York, hurt Los Angeles, hurt Philadelphia.
We just got a sister who was the elected mayor, the day she was being sworn in,
a plane of migrants was coming in.
None of them was coming before.
No migrants was going to Los Angeles until Bass became mayor.
When I was the first female black mayor became mayor,
when she became mayor, they said,
let's start sending them to Los Angeles.
They playing us, man, they playing us. You know that?
I respect any elected official
who can come have this conversation.
Cause these are the tough questions.
From your constituents.
Yeah, without a doubt.
Without a doubt.
What can y'all do to work together?
We should.
Yeah.
Cause no matter.
Cause both of y'all care.
Yeah, without a doubt.
You know what's interesting you said that
because when I was in,
I'm in rooms with folks and I walk out of those rooms and I say, you know what, we both disagree, but
we both love the city and love our people.
We have to separate the 10% of disagreement and focus on the 90% that we agree on.
You agree that our children should be educated.
You agree that our brothers, when they get,
my sisters, when they get out of Rikers,
should come out better than what they went in.
You agree that we should be safe.
You agree that no mother should have to lose their child
to over-policing or to someone who is discharging a gun.
We agree on many things.
The 10% that we don't agree on, then listen, let's debate that.
But there's 90% of the stuff. We agree that black women should be able to go through their school
system and get into some of these employments, like first mayor in history that have five
women deputy mayor. First mayor in history, Dominican, Filipino, African American, Trinidadian, you know, first
man in history that has a person of color, that's the police commissioner, correction
commissioner.
First man in history that have done so many things.
I know retrospectfully I'm going to be appreciated as a mayor that lived up to what I said I
was going to do.
I'm not going to do that now.
You know, people always crap on us when we in the ring.
But when my gloves are hung up, people look at,
listen, that was an authentic, ball-headed,
earring-wearing brother that did his thing
as the mayor of the city of New York.
The most important city on the globe is being run
by a person who was dyslexic, arrested, rejected,
and now I'm elected to be the mayor of the city.
Well, there you have it.
It's Mayor Eric Adams.
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