The Breakfast Club - Best Of 2024 Full Interview: T.I. & Young Dro Speak On Sobriety, 'OMG Girlz' Lawsuit Victory, New Music + More

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Best of 2024 - Recorded April 2024 - October - T.I. & Young Dro Speak On Sobriety, 'OMG Girlz' Lawsuit Victory, New Music. Listen For More!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informa...tion.

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Starting point is 00:02:49 Morning, everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa's filling in. And we got some special guests joining us this morning. Yes, indeed. We have T.I. and the brother Young Joe. Welcome, fellas. Hey. What's up? What's up?
Starting point is 00:03:04 How y'all feeling this morning man? I'm blessed. We know you blessed. We know. First and foremost, congratulations. Thank you. How does it feel? I heard that you're not really taking any shows anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:17 That got to be the first thing. I'm saying congratulations. Thank you, I appreciate it. That's our show, that's actually our show. That's our show, yeah, our later show. You were the jingle balls. You were the jingle balls. Yeah, that's my show, I named you jingle balls.
Starting point is 00:03:34 That's our show, that's our show that we're doing in Atlanta. But yeah, I'm excited about it, man. It's gonna be a dope show. And I still have other performances, stuff that I agreed to when I felt like I needed to do it. With PSE or just? Yeah, and I still, you know what I'm saying, the PSE, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:03:52 they probably, they go get like probably three, four, you know what I'm saying, three, four of them, like, all right, come on, y'all, let's do it, you know? Like one air quarter. I'm just joking, man, I'm just joking. But I'm for real. You're trolling me. You know I'm joking, that nigga. But I'm for real. I'm just joking, man. I'm just joking. But I'm for real. You're joking. No, he's joking.
Starting point is 00:04:06 That nigga is lying. But I'm for real. I'm for real. I'm for real. You're looking at him like, you doing this to me? Are you doing this to me? Don't worry about it, man. Plenty of room on the yacht, man.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Plenty of room on the yacht. I was always told retirement is not an age, it's an income. And we heard you say that this solo album gonna be your last album. Like Envy just said say that this solo album gonna be your last album. Like Envy just said, you said it's gonna be your last show. Yeah, last page show. But look, that don't mean that I'm not gonna still work. Okay. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:33 Like there are other things that I'm doing. I'm still writing, producing, directing films. Then I'm working on my third one. We about to start. Actually, by the time this airs, I'll probably be filming. It's called Situ Ships, a romantic comedy based in Atlanta law line. It's looking for love in Atlanta, good luck.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I'm excited about that. It's the first film that I'll be directing and starring in. Myself, Terrence J, Brittany Hall, Dominique Perry. You know what I'm saying? So we got other things that we doing. I'm probably finna shoot my special end of the year. But you know for that movie, we have somebody that might wanna be a part of it,
Starting point is 00:05:15 trying to find some love in the world. Who is that? Well it's not me, because I'm married 23 years. That'd be a reality show, that wouldn't be a movie. I'm just wondering, who you talking about? This young lady over here. Why we always got it? We call her LL Cool Bay.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah. She's always alone in her room, standing at the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, man. That was your best joke. You've been sitting on that one. No, not really. I ain't heard that one. You've practiced that one.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah, he was waiting, because I ain't even heard that one. What thing about it? I don't think I'm looking in Atlanta, though. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dang. Wow. Discrimination I'm looking in Atlanta though. Yeah, well, whoa, whoa, whoa. Damn. Wow. Discrimination much? No, I just.
Starting point is 00:05:48 You sound like what Trump just said about Detroit. I have some homegirls down there that have had really bad experiences. It's a little. Really bad experience. Yeah, it's been a little trauma in the group chat. So I think I'm. Yeah, it's probably them.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It's probably them? It's probably them. You do it. You do attract with the energy you distribute. I tell her that all the time. First of all, I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about the homegirls in the group chat. But you're talking about how their experiences are influencing your decisions.
Starting point is 00:06:16 For sure. So you're talking about you, essentially. Yes, you are. Well, I attract great things. You do. I, well, maybe. Why would that change if you took that same energy to Atlanta? Well, from what I hear in Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:06:31 I think the ratio makes it where like, Objection, here's the thing. I just hear a lot about that ratio and how kinda, you know, the guys got a lot going on. You got, it's a lot down there. And you know, everybody wants to deal with successful and you know these amazing black men, but if they dating 50 people
Starting point is 00:06:51 and don't wanna settle with one, like the dating never gets nowhere. Long as you got the whippa pill. Oh my goodness. Whippa pill. I don't think we can say that. We can't say that. Yeah, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Whippa pill. Baby face. That's baby face. Yeah. She too young to know that. That's okay. Whippa Peel. Babyface. That's Babyface. Yeah. She too young to know that. She don't even know what that is. Babyface Ray. Babyface Ray. Babyface Ray.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Babyface Ray. Babyface Ray. Babyface Ray. Wait a minute, where's Whippa Peel by Babyface Ray? That was not that funny. Yeah, but I think that, I think that, I think it's somebody down there, cause it's probably a dude dying right now,
Starting point is 00:07:26 who like man, all these girls want the same thing. Everybody wanna be seen with somebody in Cartier glasses and hopping out of Maybach. What's wrong with Cartier glasses? I'm just saying, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, but that's the kind of guy she's saying she trying to avoid. She trying to avoid me?
Starting point is 00:07:44 A little bit. Is that what she's describing? I think it's just certain, I think the lifestyle in Atlanta, although it's really, really fun, you have a good time, I think that kind of plays a part of it too. It's like eventually we get like,
Starting point is 00:07:56 and I'm outside, I go outside, I'm around, but you get tired of like every single time we go out, we gotta be in the club, we gotta be with the hookah and the drink. That's when she tired of this. You do that every weekend. No I don't, not every weekend. If I'm dating somebody, I wanna do things other than that
Starting point is 00:08:11 and a lot of the people that, this is another conversation in the group chat, a lot of my homegirls feel like in Atlanta, that's all the dates are. And it's fun in the beginning, but then you wanna really dig deep. You ain't gotta always go to the club and do hookah. You can go to Etheridge, you can go over on Bankhead.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You have many traps to travel through. You can go to Hurtle Home. They gotta surround the wrong guys. You know what I'm saying? I feel like the people that's coming through our chat, it's like they just wanna go to Cheetah, they wanna be out, that's it. I mean, well yeah, I think, again man,
Starting point is 00:08:40 you attract the energy that you distribute. So if that's what they're attracted, they should probably look within, you know what I'm saying? Tell them to stop. And be the change they wanna see. Stop going to Chile. You'll stop meeting people that don't wanna go to Chile. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:57 They say, there's good food over there. See what I'm saying? See you later. That's all they told you? See what I'm saying? That girl go to Chile, they got good wine. Yeah. No. Now, Drew, you took a step back, man.
Starting point is 00:09:07 You took a step back. You ain't put out albums since what, 2015? Mm, took a step back. I mean, like, it's foreign putting out albums. Yeah. Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Over that period of time, I still put out like little pieces of projects and things
Starting point is 00:09:26 that like that of that nature. You know what I mean? I think we did, after that we had TikTok. You know what I'm saying? Put out TikTok. And then I went into rehab and stuff like that. So I've been rebuilding myself as a person. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:43 I felt like I should dig into the inside of me and find out what I have to give to the public. You don't have to use that voice, Dro. You're not on Dr. Phil. Listen to me. What is this? That's his voice now. That's his voice now.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I had to find that. I had to find that. This is sober dro. This is sober dro. This is, you go ahead. Don't let them. No, listen, I had to find the good in myself. I think it's good.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I think it's good. Let me introduce everybody to the world. This is sober myself. I think it's good. Let me introduce everybody to the world. Sober Dro. I think it's good in all people. You feel what I'm saying? And if nobody can find the good in you or see the good in you, I think you should give them a hug
Starting point is 00:10:16 and tell them life is difficult for the blind. You know? He had the D.A.D. You know what I'm saying? He had the D.A.D. When did you decide or what got you into rehab? When was that call and I said this is the time? Because I mean, from my whole career,
Starting point is 00:10:29 I would see Dro in the club with me every week and Dro was performing, Dro was at every stage. You were the epitome of an artist because you were out. Yeah. Well, I got tired of the same things, you know what I mean? Like over and over again, getting high and saying I'm not getting high and repeating the same thing. You can't do it.
Starting point is 00:10:53 You can't do it, but I'm laughing like hell at this man's struggle. This man talking about it real, overcoming the real struggle. This man back in the head. I'm gonna ask you, because your crew just do nothing but laugh. Like even this down, T.I.'s like,
Starting point is 00:11:06 welcome to the Soul Redro, like nobody takes it serious. But you know what though? What you say? Bad pill got him, he let it all go after that. You said bad pill got him. He's actually three. He's telling the truth. Nah, but you know, it was more than that.
Starting point is 00:11:23 It was actually I overdosed, you feel what I'm saying? And I used this platform with the thank God to us. What's wrong with you man? What's that money? What's wrong with you? He's laughing in the background. Man, that's your brother, right? That's your brother.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Crazy man. He's a mechanic. K-Dub is a mechanic. The mechanic's always laughing still. K-Dub is a dastardly individual, man. So guys, you almost overdosed? Yo, I did. No.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Know what I mean? And all of these things happened. The overdose. My daughter was on drugs. And career wise, I wasn't where I wanted to be. What's up with your man, man? Hey, you finna get slapped, man. Career-wise I wasn't where I wasn't I mean we cool, but I slept she lost you by that man. I'm just I'm just telling you What you want to do?
Starting point is 00:12:22 So but drove Hey listen, hey both of y'all, all of y'all. Everybody came in there motherfucker with me. Hey look, everybody came in there motherfucker with me. Hey look, everybody came in there motherfucker with me. Hey look, remember who you came in and remember what we doing here man. Come on man, let's get this shit together bro, all right? All right.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I'm sorry guys. And first of all, Drow, congratulations on being two years Sobe. Yeah, like I was saying. Three actually. I'm sorry, Gax. And first of all, Joe, congratulations on being two years old. Yeah, like I was saying. Three, actually. Three. I'm approaching four. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:50 So, like all of these things happened to where it made me want to actually seek something better. You know what I mean? So when I took myself to rehab out in LA, did a couple months out there, and it was cool. You know what I'm saying? I got back out and I was still tempted to live that kind of life, but I saw what was in front of me
Starting point is 00:13:12 and I was like, this is more valuable than what's behind me. What gave you the courage, I would say, to be able to talk about it, right? Because some people look about it as it's embarrassing, and then some people will say, you know, it could actually help people as going through the same thing
Starting point is 00:13:24 that you're actually going through or some people will say, you know, it could actually help people as going through the same thing that you're actually going through or that you dealt with, you know? I mean, with the support team, you feel what I'm saying? Because the first time it happened, we had like an intervention and he came out. You mean first time, like overdose first time? I need to know what a grand hustle intervention looks like. I really need to know.
Starting point is 00:13:40 He came over there, hey, Puma. I'm like, bro, I'm delicate right now. But I mean, the love I got and the support I got, it made me feel safe. And of course I do feel ashamed at first. Why, it's a disease, there ain't nothing to be ashamed about. Because we from, you don't suppose to let nobody see you like that. We always talk like, we from, you don't suppose to let nobody see you like that, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:05 We always talk like, you know what I'm saying? Once you find yourself in that position and your brother call you out on it, you be hoping that you can get rid of it before he come and check me, but when he come check me on it, I get mad at myself, I'm like, damn, I supposed to got straight before,
Starting point is 00:14:20 you know what I mean, my manager would come, or if he would come, you feel what I'm saying? So, it was a lot. Now the up thing about it is, you know what I mean, my manager would come or if he would come, you feel what I'm saying? So it was a lot. Now the up thing about it is, you know what I'm saying, and we've had this conversation before, like as long as he was battling this addiction, as long as he was on drugs, I never actually saw him do drugs.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I never saw it. Like you know what I'm saying, so whatever he would do, he'd do it. And I don't know whether he would have while he was around me or not, but. I was. But what I'm saying would hide while he was around me or not, but. I was. But what I'm saying is, like while we was around each other,
Starting point is 00:14:49 it was still like this. So when I went to him, I didn't even know, I didn't know the difference. You know what I'm saying? I still, but I was concerned. So I'm like, hey man, I can't even fuck with you like that, man. Do what you gonna do, bro. do what you gonna do, bro,
Starting point is 00:15:05 do what you gonna do, bro. I ain't finna sit around and watch you do this. I ain't gonna do it. I feel like I remember that period, when you was, it feel like you was giving Dro tough love. Like you had to put him to the side. You didn't cut him off. I didn't put him to the side, I just told him, man.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You gonna either, man, I can't just continue to support you deteriorate, or deteriorate, destroy yourself. You got to, and he was like, man, I got it. Cause the funniest thing, that man told me, cause when he overdosed, so wait a minute now, stop. I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be, hey man, stop, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Look, man. Okay. You and Charlamagne the same, you know that? When I go through my problems or whatever, he laughs. I'm like, it's not time to laugh. But it helped me through it though, I ain't gonna front-up. But look, no, hear me out.
Starting point is 00:15:49 So this is what I'm saying. Now, God bless all of the people who have, you know what I'm saying, who have overcame addiction and God bless the people who have succumbed to it. And so many of our leaders and so many of our, just the heroes of our culture are passing away. You know, could defend our epidemic is real, you feel me? And we've seen so many people like fall and not make it.
Starting point is 00:16:25 That man made it three times. Three times! like fall and not make it. That man made it three times. Three times! And the first time they called me and he was somewhere with people that I would feel like you know what I'm saying, wouldn't have the same care to do the things that need to be done, but he still made it. And I could be, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:16:44 that I'm saying, I'm speaking more of the area than I am about the people. But after that, they called me and I said, hell nah man, you lying. So I come, I say, bro, man, man what's up bro? He like, man, nah. I said, what you mean, nah. Now sum up, what's up? I said, man, I know you ain't gonna fuck around
Starting point is 00:17:06 and off yourself. And he say, man, that shit didn't even happen. I said, it didn't happen. I said, it didn't happen. I didn't feel like, well, I didn't know what Fittin' All was. You feel what I'm saying? To be honest with you, like he said, it was a crazy pill.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I wouldn't have asked for it. Hey, look, you got Fittin' All? You feel what I'm saying? I just- What drug was it? Was it Percocet? It was Fittin' look you got Fentanyl, you feel what I'm saying? I just. What drug was it, was it Percocet? It was Fentanyl, it was a Perc. It was Perc. So once I took it, I didn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:17:31 You feel what I'm saying? So when it happened, I felt like now I'm obligated to tell my story so it can help somebody that's, you know, that's fighting addiction. You know what I mean? We just lost Atlanta Legend to Fentanyl. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, that's fighting addiction, you know what I mean? We just lost Atlanta Legend. Yeah, rest in peace Rich Homie. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:48 Rich Homie, that's right. And for me to be done made it through, I think that I should use this platform that I have, that he shares with me. And then it was also after we lost our partner, our partner Peanut the Don. Peanut the Don. Peanut the Don, like he died the same way.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Same way. You know what I'm saying? But it's a calling on this man's life, so when you say why is he sharing it, I don't think he has a choice. No. I feel like he was kind of positioned to survive all the stuff that he survived
Starting point is 00:18:18 and to have the effortless connection with community. You know what I'm saying? If you go anywhere in Atlanta, you gonna see Joe Cud, I don't give a damn where you go, what part of the city you in, you gonna see somebody who related to young Joe, and he done been to every high school in the city, he know everybody, and to have that community tie,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but then have this testimony that you can share with these people. And you know what I'm saying, to inspire and uplift, like that's special, you know what I'm saying? Like, Drow, you give rich pastor energy. Rich pastor, pastor Drow. Yes, you do. That's why the thank God record
Starting point is 00:18:58 makes so much sense to me when I hear it. Yeah, I feel like I have, you know, the ability to give a ministry, not a minister, you know what I mean? Growing up in a church and stuff like that, I just came back to that, you know what I mean? But this right here was a blessing, man. Tip called and was like, hey,
Starting point is 00:19:22 I think you should start the tip, because I did a lot of interviews in the beginning and I didn't want to say it, you know what I mean? But I said it on this track and I thought that I should say it to God first, you feel what I'm saying, and on that platform. That was the first time you really made it, and now people knew that you was clean,
Starting point is 00:19:39 but they didn't know like what got you. They didn't know, yeah, just like the question you asked, what made you, and I used to always be it around it. And I was like, well, I ain't ready to say it yet. You know what I mean? But when he came along and said, I think you should start telling it, I was like, what better way?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Did you talk? How did you feel after you're in the studio and you finally say it, it's on the record, did you feel weight lifted off of you? Or were you anxious about how people would respond to knowing exactly what happened? I felt like a weight lifted off of you or were you anxious about how people would respond to knowing exactly what happened? I felt like a weight lifted off of me because of where we recorded at with Kirk Franklin,
Starting point is 00:20:13 I overdosed in that studio. Wow. So I think that where I put myself at, God built me right back up. Was that a purposely done thing or God just ended up back in that studio? God just put it, it just happened that way. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:24 And I was shamed to go back to the studio and I was talking to God, I was like, I don't wanna go back in there. He was like, go back in there and watch what I do. So you knew you was gonna record this and y'all the record, but you didn't even know? Wow, wow, wow, wow. Well he was actually at the studio for something else.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I think he was working on the PNC album. So he was in the studio for something else. And then I was just like, hey, Kurt on the way. He like, what, now? I'm finna do mine now. I'm finna go, you know what I'm saying? So he went on and laid his verse down right then that day. But it was definitely ordained.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like it was divine. I was ashamed to go back to the studio because everybody was there. You feel what I'm saying? So when we started working on the PSC album, I just was like, you know what I'm saying? He never even told me, I didn't even know. I wasn't cool with coming back in there.
Starting point is 00:21:18 You feel me, I thought I'm being laid all out on the floor. You know what I'm saying? But once I got the opportunity, I just swallowed that, took that walk of shame, went back in there and recorded, not knowing that God was gonna rebuild me and give me a platform to actually share with people what happened to me right there
Starting point is 00:21:36 and get the glory out of it, you dig what I'm saying? Did you hear God in that moment? I heard him in that moment, yeah. I was gonna ask, did you deal with why you needed or why you thought you needed those pills? Was it upset? Was it I wanted to turn up? Was, did you think you needed it to make a record?
Starting point is 00:21:51 Did you deal with that part of it? Because that's the part that scares me with any artist because it's like, you take it feeling like it's gonna take you to someplace else and it's like, well what made you feel like I had to take that pill? It started out with like, just having out with just having fun in the hood, getting high, but then it made me feel like
Starting point is 00:22:11 I needed it to make good music, you know what I'm saying? And actually it just stimulated, and I used to just write crazy, and then it got to the point where it became an addiction, so that went out the window, music went out the window. And then I was like, oh, I need to do this and do that. Plus from trauma, things happened to me when I was younger. Being shot and introduced to Demerol
Starting point is 00:22:35 and addicted to that in the hospital. And from the way I got whoopings as a child, that trauma, you know what I'm saying? Well, we don't talk about that enough, manny. Yeah. Lord have mercy. I, that's trauma? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That's discipline. That's not, that, well, it's just, oh, yeah, extension cords and stuff like that. I used to get beat with an extension cord. I ain't, I ain't, yeah. You need to go take a bath. I can't speak on that. That's child's language.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I can speak on that. You ain't lying, I think you still need to hear people. I can speak on that. I got whooping with a extension cord and stuff like that. You see what I'm saying? We was tied up in beat, like, but, but was tied up and beat, but to be honest with you, my family, we thought, my mama had five boys, so it was hard to discipline five boys on her own.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Where are you, youngest, oldest, middle? I'm right after the oldest, you know what I mean? So when she laid the belt down, and it was necessary because all of us are living today, none of us are really like that bad of people. And she did the best but when you whipping like that you have to be careful about how you do it. Now it's cool to whip your child and discipline them
Starting point is 00:23:35 but if you gonna beat the shit out of them then you might as well get ready for something in them that you don't know about. Because now that I'm older, she's probably surprised that when she hears this, you feel what I'm saying? How does that affect you with your kids? How you discipline your kids? I see, I've recognized it,
Starting point is 00:23:52 and I'm not gonna do it to that degree. I'm a straight mind, but I ain't gonna go that far, because I don't want the repercussion. I feel like as far as child discipline is concerned, they just need to know that they can get their ass whooped. You see what I'm saying? You don't always have to whoop their ass, but you gotta do it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You gotta lay it down one time, and they're like, hey, you remember? Okay now, you see what I'm saying? So. You all got boys, I got all girls, so it's different. I don't be mind at all. Oh no, you can't be the whoop your girl, man. You can't whoop your girl.
Starting point is 00:24:21 That's what I'm saying. You all got a strong black woman with you. That's right, absolutely. Hey man, I wanna apologize to my friend. I got beside myself. I shouldn't have took feelings to that. That's all good. That's my dude right there, man.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I ain't finna be slapping no goddamn bad. Amen, amen, it's all good. That's my dog. Amen, listen, amen. We all here together, we came here together, we gonna lead here together, we gonna grow together. You know what I'm saying? So, you know. I just had to make that. So we gonna have a good time, we gonna here together, we came here together, we gonna lead here together, we gonna grow together. You know what I'm saying? So, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I just had to make that. So we gonna have a good time, we gonna have a bad time. Absolutely. You know, but one thing we ain't gonna have in no broke time. So, tell me that. That's what I'm saying. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:24:55 What's up? You did say something, your daughter was on drugs, what you saying? Yeah, my little girl ended up picking up drugs. But it happened just like how I did it when I was 17, 18. You feel me? And it just played back.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And it's the generational curse that, how my father was, my father picked it up at that age and he did it for 50 years. You feel me? Then I picked it up and then I lived that way. Then my little girl, and I was thinking about it. And all of this happened before I went to rehab. The overdose, this and all of that.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You feel what I'm saying? So when she did it, I looked at God and it was just like he had just revealed himself like, hey, I'm here now, it's time to start grabbing this by the reins, you know what I'm saying? So when that happened, I was in rehab while she was out. We supposed to went together to get the help, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:42 And she wasn't ready, but I had to go ahead of her to be an example, you know what I'm saying? And she wasn't ready, but I had to go ahead of her to be an example, you know? And I actually broke this curse in my family because. That's what's up, my brother. That's what's happening. How is she doing now? She's good, man, she working at the hospital. We talk all the time, she's doing great, man.
Starting point is 00:25:59 She's clean. Amen. You have the Atixza Village Foundation that you do, where you're in the schools talking to the kids. When you're talking to the kids, what are you dissecting from your story? Because some of the kids I saw in these videos were really young.
Starting point is 00:26:12 So what are the main issues you're seeing with the kids, and how do you take your story and kind of mentor them up a bit? So what we do is, it's still Texan Village. We're in the communities and in the schools and in the homes and we do like interventions and I use what I've been through and then my manager Dr. Ciara L,
Starting point is 00:26:32 she is like, she's been LPC for 20 years and she's into mental and behavioral health. You feel what I'm saying? So when we come into a situation, like I try to bring the street part into it. You feel what I'm saying? And let people know what to do when you're conflict resolution,
Starting point is 00:26:53 if you out in the street and you feel like you don't wanna be no lame and this and that. But sometimes they diagnose these young kids with things that's not wrong with them. You feel me? They be like, oh, he bipolar or he mad at, but the only thing is he'd probably be mad at his dad because he wasn't at home or they don't have nothing to eat
Starting point is 00:27:14 or you know what I'm saying? But we give them, we diagnose them with stuff like that. But my partner, she covers that area and I can tell them about the street parts. So we do mentoring and stuff like that. Do they know when you come in them about the street part so we do mentoring and stuff like that. Do they know when you come in because the kids are so young,
Starting point is 00:27:28 do they know young Joe the artist or are they just happy that someone's in the school talking to them that they can relate to? Well in Atlanta, nine times out of 10, I've probably done been in that project before. Got you. You feel what I'm saying? Oh I know that.
Starting point is 00:27:40 They know everybody man. He gonna look and say, hey man, who your mommy? Who your daddy? Yeah, man, tell your daddy I said what's up. Like he one of those kind of people. But we do wanna go across America for the most part. You feel me? So if you can't identify with who I am as a rapper,
Starting point is 00:27:58 you'll identify with what I've been through. And what I've been through is what a lot of youth go through. You know what I mean? Rather black, white, whatever. You feel what I've been through. And what I've been through is what a lot of youth go through, you know what I mean? Rather black, white, whatever. You feel what I'm saying? Like you've been through, if you done been through the trenches before, I have trench stories and I have an outcome
Starting point is 00:28:15 that I made it out, you know what I'm saying? And you and Drogal way back, right? Yeah, we done been through some shit, man. I ain't never got to you. When y'all first met, middle school? Nah, nah, nah, I ain't no in middle school. I think I was like 17, 17. We were probably right at the dropout age,
Starting point is 00:28:28 you know what I'm saying? The dropout age sounds crazy. I got kicked out, I just didn't voluntarily drop out. I got, hey man, me too though. I got kicked out of Riverdale Middle, so my mama moved me from the West Side to what was at that time the suburbs. And King hate when I call it the suburbs.
Starting point is 00:28:48 He hate that with me and him fall out back. Cause he really is, that's his area where he grew up and live and he like, ain't no suburb man. Like really well when I moved there. Y'all had jig out y'all voucher? Nah, we had been had about. We had jig out out. Yeah, we had moved from.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Who was the voucher? The house in the house. Section 8 voucher. Oh, I got you. Section 8 voucher. So, and these were some real, real good apartments. They had carpets, AC. Yeah, everything, man.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Central AC, you know what I mean? So, when we moved out, I had been there since eighth grade. Y'all got y'all voucher early. Yeah, so I had a voucher before then. And I'm section eight food stamp baby, man. Yes, you is indeed. I don't know nothing about the EBT.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I remember snatching the food stamps at the book. The brown dollar, the brown one, and the purple five, and the green ten. We had blues back then. We were spending blues back then. But nah, so eighth grade I moved out there and then I was going back and forth when I got kicked out of Riverdale High School
Starting point is 00:29:50 for inciting the race. Well actually I got kicked out of all. Inciting the what? Of race war. I got kicked out of all Clayton County schools. He said it like, race war. I do this all the time, race war. That's really what they called it.
Starting point is 00:30:00 That's what they called it. But what happened was me and my partner Booz in school suspension and then you know what I'm saying, it was a white boy that called us a nigga, and we got to getting on his ass. And then, you know, his sister came around the corner, and she called us niggas too. Get out my brother, nigga.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And we got to kick her ass. And then everybody in, everybody was getting out of school, like, and it was just black people fighting white people. And I'm gonna tell y'all something the white teachers jumped in. No. Yeah man the white teachers you know how you pulled and you're breaking up fight they'd be like you know what I'm saying yeah yeah I remember that and after the the melee you know didn't nobody like didn't nobody get kicked out but me and Boo you know what I'm saying so after that I went back to the West Side for a minute,
Starting point is 00:30:48 got in a whole lot of trouble, caught my first case, well my first case as an adult. And so I was dealing with that, so I had to move back with my mama. And around then, that's when I was like 16, 17 years old, and that's when Dro had moved out there. And so then it was like we two West Side guys this out here and we just clicked instantly.
Starting point is 00:31:10 It was sweet out there man. Yeah it was. Our nicks went for like 30. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We used to literally go to Joan Burris I was like Thorhood. We used to literally go to Joan Burris out
Starting point is 00:31:22 and buy dime bags that we drove back to our side of town and sold them for 30, 40 dollars. You know, it was really that sweet. But anyway, that's not, and I'm not, we are not, let's not. We're not doing that. You're just telling me life. We're not promoting this.
Starting point is 00:31:36 This is just a testimonial. This is our testimony. We lived through this and we earned the right to speak on it. Don't try it. You remember y'all first meeting? The dying's not that big no more. So it ain't gonna work it. You remember y'all first meeting? The dive's not that big no more, because it ain't gonna work today.
Starting point is 00:31:48 You remember the first time y'all met each other? Well, that would be on me because he was already there. So it was just this apartment that was just booming. I kept seeing all the cars. You know when you get there, you be like, where is that? You know what I'm saying? When you move somewhere, you be like, where is that, man?
Starting point is 00:32:04 You feel me? And then I just kept seeing, and then you know, Charlotte, he's serving out to wonder. Know what I'm saying? And you know, my partner knew him, who I, the other look partner I met named Ben, he knew him, you know what I'm saying? And we just all just, and I ended up going over there,
Starting point is 00:32:18 and I knew his, the way he talked was like, how we talk, how he move, and it's like, how we move, because we were from Bankhead. You feel me? It seemed like we was destined to meet because we was on one side of town. I was in Bankhead Court, he was up the street in Center Hill. Then we moved to Riverdale.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Then you know what I'm saying, not even knowing that this was gonna come together, you know what I'm saying? But it was all, it was all. And I also like had like a little studio. So I was selling dope, but I also had a little studio in my room, right, and Dro could rap, you know what I'm saying? And so we'll be rapping and shit, and I had a keyboard
Starting point is 00:32:51 with some little speakers and shit, so I'll be doing my beat and cutting up my dope at the same time. And Dro's like, man, what you trying to do? I said, man, I'm gonna be a rapper. I'm cutting my goddamn ounces up. He's like, I can't tell you won't be no damn rapper. You know what I'm saying? And that's kinda how we bonded.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Cause he wasn't really selling dope. Like he was out there in the mix, but he didn't for some reason had no interest. He really wanted to be a rapper. Like he was really, really, really serious about it. And he got a deal before I did. So I ain't know that. Yeah, yeah, Drow had a deal.
Starting point is 00:33:26 He had two deals. Who came to the first? It's online. Oh, you signed up. I'm about to say it wrong. Raheem. Raheem the Dre. Raheem the Dre.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I was on the radio. Like one day he was at the radio station and I called up there, but I was already on the radio. I think you were putting out, I'm serious or something like that. And I called him and he was like, yeah, this dro, she was like, dro, dro. And I was like, nigga, that's Dwarne. And he was like, Dwarne? You dro?
Starting point is 00:33:51 I was like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? But I was already on the radio by then. So when did you meet? You met, KP is the one who really got you, KP right there? Yeah, KP, he, I met KP through DJ, no Jason. Jason took me, Jason, DJ Toomp and my cousin Toomp, God bless him. They took me at an intervention, because when I told you I caught that dope case,
Starting point is 00:34:19 they put me on seven years of probation. I was 17 years old at the time, but me and Toomp and Toot and Jay, all of us had put our money together to work on like a demo, you know what I mean? But I had just found out that I was about to have my first child. So after that, in my mind, I'm like, oh no, I can't live like this, having no baby. I got to get it together. So I just kind of like, in my mind I was like, okay so I'm just gonna sell a whole bunch of dope in a little bit of time and stack me up enough money
Starting point is 00:34:50 and do what I need to do. But in the process of doing that, I was like up all times a night riding a bicycle, all up and down, bank head, all kinds of, I was talking about no matter what time, you from five in the morning, eight p.m., 12 p.m., all times a day. I'm just riding my bike up and down with a backpack like a little messenger, like a messenger,
Starting point is 00:35:11 and just trapping and saving and trapping and saving. And they had an intervention because they had found out. I would try not to let them know what I was doing, but I guess word got around, they found that and they sat me down. I was like, hey man, how is we gonna be investing our money in you if you continue to do what you're doing? You get locked up, you already on probation, man, everything we working for is gonna be for nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'm like, man, I got a baby on the way, I tell you what, you take me somewhere right now, man, where I can showcase my talent, and I can actually, you know, somewhere that I can actually get a deal and do this professionally and then you can ask me to stop. I ain't stopping just to be stopping.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And then I think Tump and my cousin like, man, that's not even reasonable. How can you say something? And then Jason say, I know a place. I say, see, I like him. And so he, at the time, KP is a part of a group called PA Parental Advisories, extension organizer, I know it, and they had their own deal with DreamWorks K.P.'s a part of a group called P.A. Parental Advisories, Extension Organized North,
Starting point is 00:36:05 and they had their own deal with DreamWorks, and they was doing an album, and as it was described to me, the album was supposed to be like The Chronic, how The Chronic had a bunch of unknown guys that Dre were doing the beats, so they was looking for talent. They were looking for unknown talent.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And so Jason called him and said, man, I got somebody, man, it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be harder than anything you listening to. And so he said, bring them. So we went that same night, we went. And KP wasn't there, but the other two members, Mello and Reese, they were there. And I think Reese probably,
Starting point is 00:36:44 I think Mello played a beat and Reese was like, you can rap on that? I said, can I rap? Man, what a boof. So I go straight in the booth, one take it, they were like, where you been? I was like, shit, riding my bike up and down. Boy, I'm riding my bike.
Starting point is 00:37:00 And then they told KP about me, and they told me about KP, and I gave him my beeper number. Yeah, that's how long ago it was. My beeper number, wow. I gave him my beeper number. You know what a beeper is, right Lauren? Side playing. All right, good guy.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Just make it show, give me your name. So, it was about two weeks, and I was like, yeah, exactly, just like I thought, nothing happened. I'm back on my bike. And I got a page, you know, I got a page with no code, and that was strange, you know what I'm back on my bike. And I got a page with no code, and that was strange. You know what I'm saying? Because all my pages came with code, so I know where to go and what to bring with me.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And so I rode down to the payphone, still again, show you how long ago this was. So I rode down to the payphone and called and said LaFace Records, I said, who the fuck wants some dopey LaFace Records? Somebody at Page Tip. And then it was like, oh it must have been KP. And then I was like, KP?
Starting point is 00:37:52 And then he was like, yo, you was in the studio with Reese and Mellow, man, and I'm KP, that's my group. And you know, I got a record label, Ghetto Vision, and we going out to the Source Awards in LA. We want to know if you want to come. I'm like, who going? They're like, just me. KP, he has this way of just throwing away
Starting point is 00:38:17 some very, very monumental moments. He's like, oh man, just me, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Cool Breeze, Young bloods, you know, we just gonna go hang. I say, all right, let me check my schedule, let me see what I got to do. Okay, yeah, I'm free, man. I think I can make it.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And so, at that point, I'm like, okay, well I gotta get up another morning to get out here so I can take care of myself and handle myself like a player. So I went and got, I went and got, I was getting 200 baby at the time, so I paid for my re-up, but then I told him to front me another one on top of that,
Starting point is 00:38:57 so I had me a little four way. And so I sold half of it, had the money, put the rest of it back, so when I come back, then I'm gonna trap this and then that'll be my real, you know what I'm saying, for my net load. So I went out there, man I ended up freestylin' on the tour bus with Goodie Mob and Outkast.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I ended up doing the camera blocking, Kukubri was drivin' from Atlanta to LA. The tour bus? No, no, he's drivin' his car. His car. He ain't fly. A van. He didn't fly, so he drove from Atlanta to LA. The toy bus? No, no, he's driving his car. His car. He didn't fly. A van. He didn't fly.
Starting point is 00:39:27 So he drove from Atlanta to LA and made it. But missed the camera blocking. So they said, man, we need somebody to do the camera blocking for Kube Report on Watch for the Hook. I like, I know, I know, I know the song. Man, so I ended up on the stage with Outkast, Goodie Mom, Wish Doctor, and you know, back on the whole Organize North, Rico Wade, I mean everybody, and everybody like embraced me
Starting point is 00:39:52 and said like, where you from, bro? I'm like, man, I'm from Atlanta. No, where you from, bro? Like, man, I'm from the West Side. Well, Bankhead, well, nigga, Center Hill, Baker Road, what's up, bro? They were like, oh, shorty from the town, for real. And I remember this one, this one I really in the hill, Baker Road, what's up, bruh? They were like, oh, shout it from the town, for real. And I remember, then when I really felt
Starting point is 00:40:07 like I had made it, right? So we came back, I think maybe from camera blocking or maybe from some official thing where everybody went to, we came back, we was in the, all in the lobby of the hotel. And I'm looking this way at CeeLo, Kujo, I'm looking this way at Big Boy, and Dre, of course, Dre went straight to his room,
Starting point is 00:40:26 you know what I'm saying, but everybody just hanging out, right? And then, you know, I was always kind of like, I just had a way with attracting ladies and stuff, and you know, of course, a group of niggas, everybody like, man, what a girl, what a girl, so I was like, man, you know, I go to, and we was right across the street from the Beverly Center
Starting point is 00:40:47 at the sofa table, right across the street from the Beverly Center, LA. I'm like, man, I go to the mall, get some girl. So me and KP went to the mall, but then, while we was finna go, I remember Big Boy said, hey man, yeah, when you get back, man, come on up to the room, man, blow one, man. I say, huh?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Big Boy from Outkast just told me to come smoke one with him and hell yeah. So we go, come back. I go knock on Big Boy room, smoking and we chilling and talking. I'm like, man, nigga, I have made it. I'm in here smoking with Big Boy from Outkast and I just freestyled with C-Lo.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And man, I went back home, I gave that dope away. I didn't wanna say no more dope, no more. I told my plug, I said, hey bro, I finna do the rap shit, so I ain't got your money right now. I haven't spent all the money that I have. I ain't got your money right now. I only wanna risk it. He said, you know what, bro, you don't owe me nothing
Starting point is 00:41:43 long as you doing that. But you get back in the game, I want my money. You know what I'm saying? You ever go back and get money or? I didn't, nah, nah, nah. He had called a case, man. He had called a case and he was gone before I could goddamn get to him.
Starting point is 00:41:58 You know this week was 23 years of I'm Serious. I'm Serious came out on October 9th, 2001. God damn, okay. And there were two years before that, so there were 25 years ago. Damn. Yeah, so won't he do it, thank God. I was just thinking like, what's your conversation to God?
Starting point is 00:42:13 Like y'all story are amazing. Man, God is my partner. Like the blessing, yes, like wow. Droll cover too, but tip cover. I mean, I think. I'm super covered. Yeah, I think we both are. That's kind of why I think we kind of, we understand the position that the other, I understand his position, he understand my position.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I understand like, I know that God got his hand on him because I can see it. Man, I'm on borrowed time. You feel me? I don't know if I'm supposed to be sitting right here doing this interview. Can't, ain't no amount of money. I saw him lifeless, I saw him.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I saw it with my own eyes. There's no amount of money you can pay that. Not in person, but my son, like the money was actually the one that walked in and saw it. He FaceTime me and say, hey, what's up with Joe? I'm trying to wake him up, he won't wake up. And I'm like, Joe, Joe, hey man. That's what woke me up. I was like, dude, dude, hey man. That's what woke me up.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I was like, this nigga's so annoying. He was in my overdose, he was like. He did the FaceTime. He was like, what are you talking about? Get your ass up, man. Get your ass up, man. He said, I heard something, he said, what's wrong? I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:18 What do you mean? All he was doing was, it was like he was trying to talk back but he couldn't talk back. You know what I'm saying? So I said, man, go and call the Am doing was, mm. It was like he was trying to talk back, but he couldn't talk back. You know what I'm saying? So I said, man, go and call the Amulet, man. And you know what I'm saying? They said if he hadn't, if Damani hadn't got that one. Yeah, Damani was actually, my nephew actually,
Starting point is 00:43:35 he did the CPR thing. That's God, think, talk about a family affair. How old was he? Damani was doing CPR on you? Yeah, how old was he, performing CPR? Yeah, he almost broke my chest cap. Did he know how to do CPR? Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:43:46 When I got up and I came to, I was like, my chest is killing me. It was like, man, that's all I got. You're gonna be dead right now. How old was Demani at that age? He might have been 19. Wow. And you taught Demani CPR?
Starting point is 00:44:01 We all did. So back, you know, back, cause my sister Precious, she used to have, she used to have asthma attacks all the time. And so because she had asthma attacks all the time, we, she was livin'. What's up y'all? So on a recent episode of Quest Love Supreme,
Starting point is 00:44:16 my co-hosts, I'm P. Bill and Sugar Steve and I sat down with the king at rock of the Beastie Boys. We talked about the early days of the Beasties, thinkin' for records around the globe, and now he makes music these days in a cabin in the mountains. Oh, and this jewel. I was trying to start a band in the 90s called the Nasal Tongues. Me and Q-Tip and MC Milk and B-Real.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sup, y'all. This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm gonna toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Hey, y'all, Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Historical records brings history to life through hip hop. Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. A tip, but a cap, there's another one gone.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15 year old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it! And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa,
Starting point is 00:45:56 he was Claudette Goldman. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's John, also known as Dr. John-Paul. And I'm Jordan, Jordan or Joe Ho. And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Ooh chat, this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show,
Starting point is 00:46:38 Angela Carrasso and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Film Podcast on the iHeart Radio app, have a podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Ooh I know that's right. more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Fam podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts, girl. Ooh, I know that's right. Jenny Garth, Jana Kramer, Amy Robach, and TJ Holmes bring you I Do Part 2, a one-of-a-kind experiment in podcasting to help you find love again. If you didn't get it right the first time, it's time to try, try again as they guide
Starting point is 00:47:04 you through this podcast, Experiment in Dating. Hey, I'm Jana Kramer. As they say, those that cannot do, teach. Actually, I think I finally got it right. So take the failures I've had. The second or even third or whatever, maybe the fourth time around. I'm Jenny Garth. 29 years ago, Kelly Taylor said these words, I choose me. She made her choice, she chose herself. When it comes to love, choose you first. Hi everyone, I'm Amy Robach. And I'm TJ Holmes and we are,
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Starting point is 00:48:03 Anya and I met through hockey and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers. And on our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, we're opening up about the chaos of our daily lives between the juggle of being athletes, raising children and all the messiness in between. We're also turning to fellow athletes and beyond to learn about their parenthood journeys and collect valuable advice like FIFA World Cup winner Ashlyn Harris. I wish my village would have prepared me for how hard motherhood was gonna be. And Peloton instructor and Ratchet Mom Club founder,
Starting point is 00:48:35 Kirsten Ferguson. And I remember going in there hot mess. So listen to Moms Who Puck, a production of iHeart Women's Sports and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I Heart Women's Sports. And then I had one of them, we never didn't want, you know, one of the kids. Actually somebody did, did walk in while she was having an amputation and didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And that what prompted us to get everybody some CPR training. I don't know if everybody remember it, but obviously he did. Yeah, to say I'm covered is an understatement. I have something to do. Yeah, it's a purpose. It's something I have to do. That's how I feel too, bro. I feel like, you know what I'm saying, it's a purpose.
Starting point is 00:49:16 God got me here, because I could, man, you remember that shootout we was in? Hey, bro, listen to me. How do y'all remember shootouts? You didn't separate. I didn't separate. I was actually healing up from a gunshot wound. Hey, bro, listen to me. How do y'all remember shootouts? You didn't separate. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. This was a different center.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I was actually healing up from a gunshot wound, if you know what I'm saying. So I had still had staples in my stomach that was healing up. And you know, these cats. It was so funny, bro. Look, man. Shout out there, we were really going to fight these dudes, right, because I was sent out.
Starting point is 00:49:43 What TI was this? Was this before sign? This was the sign? Yeah, this was sending. What TI was this? Was this before signing this? Yeah, this was before. This was platinum TI. No, we were in the red bulls. I ain't touched no dope. I ain't touched no dope since that day. I ain't touched no dope, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:55 I might have seen a little bit, but I ain't touched it, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, so they was telling on me because I guess they had just moved out there, and I guess they wanted to get in and have their little Motion and I already had all the motion in the apartment And so they they was telling they were telling the police and it was a particular police officer that Were cool. You know, I ain't gonna say no name but he used to buy weed from him and you know saying
Starting point is 00:50:22 We buying a little weed and stuff. You like like, you know the folk over there, man? You know the folk telling people down there about you? I'm like, I know you, man. And so I walk up, you know, seeing him, probably the neck there, and tap on the window, I said, hey, bro, you know what happened when people, you know what I'm saying, folks saying my name at police station, you know what happened
Starting point is 00:50:37 where I'm from, right? He just rolled him up and pulled off. And so, you know what I'm saying, so I was like, I know what to do about this. So me and I went and got all my partner on the west side. Man, we had dog chains. We came back. We were on the fight.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And we came to fight. We think we was in a fight. We had pistol, but we weren't, you know what I'm saying, but it's just a little ass whipping, just teaching her a little spanking. And so, you know, I went to Joe house, and we walking down the hill smoking, and we said, there they go right there.
Starting point is 00:51:03 But these niggas. And we walking up there, so we walking up there, this nigga walking out the shadows. They had on gold gym, they look like gold gym. These niggas broke. These niggas look like Lee Haney, Lee Haney type. Wait a motherfucking minute, man, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Hey man, let's switch to another plan. Let's switch to another plan.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Now you like, what the hell now? So we. You know what I'm saying, it was like gold gym logos. We up the five,'t say it was like goals, gym logos. We up the five, we up the five, started blabbing. Man, this nigga drove, the shoe that's going this way, right? You know this nigga drove right in, straight through here just like that. Turn and look at me. I said, what the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:51:40 No shirt on. I was like, this chain ain't gonna help this dude. I was like, why is ain't gonna help this dude. I was like, why is you running this way, bro? Amen, that shit was funny. We all went back. So after the shoot, everybody bust, break out, go their own way. We all make our way back to Drow's house, because that's where we left from.
Starting point is 00:51:59 We made it back to Drow's apartment. In any apartment, it's like a building. You walk in the building, there's two apartments downstairs, a stairway upstairs, two apartments upstairs. So we go in the building, we knock on the door, and we can hear the police, so we laying down, we knocking on the door, Joe Mama say, hell no, don't bring that shit in here,
Starting point is 00:52:16 y'all ain't coming in here, you stay on the outside there. So we said, everybody lined up on the step, we trying to, the moment you got the letter saying, y'all ain't coming in here? I'm like, Lord have mercy, let us in. So now when she let us in, all of us land on the floor while the apartments is being flooded with police. And mind you, every time me and him get together,
Starting point is 00:52:35 they end up kicking in the door or the police come and they try to take us away, you know what I'm saying? Let me ask y'all a question. When y'all get together like this. Right. No, no, no. When y'all were trying to separate. But when y'all get together like this. No, no, no. When y'all ain't trying to separate. But when y'all get together like this in these moments,
Starting point is 00:52:48 and one moment that's coming to mind is at the MTV Awards. When y'all came out and performed Shoulder Length, but then you did What You Know About That by yourself. Being that y'all done been through all of those life or death situations and all of that type of shit. What is y'all mindset when y'all in those moments? Y'all just look at each other and laugh like, God.
Starting point is 00:53:05 We don't really think about it until, like we don't talk about it until like now. We just, you know, if we weren't here, we probably, we create new moments. Right, right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? The next moment is probably what we thinking about. Rebuilding, creating new moments is the thing.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah, yeah. And you know, Tim, we watch black people get their IP stolen all the time, likeness gets stolen all the time, and it's usually big fish eats little fish with these corporations. What made you wanna go to war with that corporation? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Numerous times, too. Yeah, I'ma be very, very clear, concise with my messaging. I'ma be honest and direct. I did not want to. It was my wife, my wife was the one. Yeah, she was the one. She was the one who was pressing the hell out of the issue. She kept pressing the hell out of the issue.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And I'm glad she did, you know what I'm saying? I'm glad she did, God bless. That's what marriage is for. That's what you feel. And I think it was her tenacity. And I saw it, but I just didn't see how we could just keep pushing it, pushing it, pushing it like that.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And that shit was costly. You know what I'm saying? We were probably like three and a half million in. And every time we go back to court, there's another seven figure bill. And then the last time we go back to court, there's another sem figure bill. And then the last time we lost the case, for whatever reason, and then he had the nerve to send me his bill.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I said, I know you fucking lying. And then the law changed, the law changed that said that the First Amendment could no longer protect, you know, when it comes to likeness and so on. I think it was some kind of Jack Daniel's case where it was a little puppy, a little, like a little dog that, a little Jack Russell dog
Starting point is 00:55:01 that I think it had something similar to Jack Daniel's on it and they thought that they could do that and Jack Daniels, the whiskey, was like, no, y'all can't do that. He was like, no, it's a parody and we protected under the First Amendment and the Supreme Court ruled, no you're not. And that's what got us back in court.
Starting point is 00:55:17 The judge said, okay, well this law changed so we have to go and we have to revisit this all over again. And thank God, you know, we did. And Judge was extremely, he was extremely fair, you know, and I think that the jury that we had could see through a lot of the shenanigans and nonsense that the other side were trying to pull. Although I understand the other side's position, you know, this guy, he's a billionaire, right? And I'm sure he not in there motherfuckers looking every day at who Dawes are trying to say what.
Starting point is 00:55:54 So I'm sure there's some people who he had put in position who probably didn't wanna do some work and just said, you know what, I could just take this and do this and then that, he won't know. And he probably didn't. And then, but now, hey. The craziest thing is they probably would've offered you guys a deal, you guys probably would've
Starting point is 00:56:13 did a deal with them back in the beginning. Absolutely, man. I mean, like at the beginning, we've had several mediation and he just never wanted to come to the table to mediate. You know what I'm saying? He never even thought that he even had to consider, you know, like resolving this. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I mean, I get it because like you say, corporations do it all the time. I get people are so used to it, it's become the norm. He didn't think that it deserved any consideration. Luckily, the judge and the jury thought different. Congratulations. Who was your first thought when y'all, when the ruling came down for the window?
Starting point is 00:56:49 Like what was your first thought? Thank God. Man, I ain't, yeah, that's it. Man, I was with KP actually. And we were actually, and I was filming. Like I didn't make it to the day for the, The court. When the deliberation was handed down.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So you must have thought you were gonna lose anyway. You wasn't there. I had to shoot a movie. We just got through shooting the apartments part too. And as a director, you know, I got to be there. I can't, I took one week off and they said it was gonna be done that week. Then the next week, like it was supposed to be done
Starting point is 00:57:19 by Friday, they started, they went into deliberation on Friday and were supposed to come back Friday with The Verde. But they didn't. So they said it's gonna be Monday. I said, man, I can't come back Monday. I got to go back to work. So I did, and I'm on the phone. I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And we still shooting too. We still polled the film. I said, man, y'all handle it. Y'all handle it. No, he didn't. You handle it. I'm like, cut. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah, because I walked out in the middle of a scene. And so they still going. They like, hey, deal. I was like, man. And then KP said, I cut. I cut it. I can tell you how I felt. I was like, you remember what we had talked about?
Starting point is 00:58:02 Make sure you give me my little P. That's all I need. But I didn't know no number. I was listening and I heard them say, like the first infringement or so on and so forth. And they would talk, it went down the list of dogs, which one did, which one didn't. But then I heard a number, I heard 17 point some million.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I said, 17 million. Yeah, I did, I said, 17 million. And everybody look at me and say, huh? And so, I hung up the phone, and then we had to go fly to Vegas to do a show. Oh, Arizona, we had to fly to Arizona to do a show. And while we on the plane, they went back into the liberation for punitive damages and they came back with
Starting point is 00:58:50 the punitive. They said 53 million. 53 million plus the 17. I said got that. Turn the plane around. Look at God. Turn the plane around. And I text again I was like don't forget that P. I said man you better stop showing that like this man, you better stop showing that like this, you better stop showing that like this now. And them lawsuits are tax free, so there's no tax to take them off. No, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Oh, damn. Don't put that out there like that. Now, the actual damages, for the actual damages, there are no taxes because the taxes, so actual damages are, you know, whatever dolls that they say look the most like the girls, what those dolls made. So those are actual damages.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And the taxes were already put into the, they were taken from the gross before this, so the taxes were paid on this money. So on this, no. Well, on the punitive, you do have to pay taxes. Shit, it's still a come up. It's still a lick. I mean, man, no, it's a blessing.
Starting point is 00:59:48 A blessing, sir. A blessing, sir. A blessing, a blessing. I want that time to downgrade it. What does it matter? You're right, you're right, you're right. I'm demoted, it's a lick. It's a lick.
Starting point is 00:59:56 It's a blessing. Come on, this is a blessing, sir. You're right. You're right. Yeah, but even more so, I love to see, like, my daughters, my daughter and my nieces, they also, they straight. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Y'all saw people saying that on social media. They was like, I hope they get a girl, so I'm like, what the fuck is that stupid statement? Nah, man, nah, it's they fight, you feel what I'm saying? And I feel like for them to be vindicated and to come out victorious and to see that if you stand up for something, you know what I'm saying, and you know that, you know in your heart truly
Starting point is 01:00:33 that you fighting for what's yours, you know, the outcome is gonna be victorious as long as you claim it, believe it, and let God lead the way. I'm happy to be a part of the process of allowing them to see that. Wow. Now sometimes these corporations.
Starting point is 01:00:55 And there's some more papers in there now, I'm just tell you, there's some more, because there's some more dogs that came up to look like other celebrities, I'm just tell you, there's some more men out there. I'm just tell you. Some more men out there. Let me look on the sites, if anything looks like this. I'm tell you, I'm tell you. out there. I mean, there's some more money out there. Let me look on the side, see if there anything
Starting point is 01:01:05 that looks like you. I tell you, man. Now these corporations do get to retaliating sometimes. Nah, I mean, you know what I mean? I mean, they have the right to appeal. They can exercise their right then to open the door for trademark. The trademark means now we're looking at all the dollars.
Starting point is 01:01:18 So you wanna open up the door for trademark, you go in here, open up the door for trademark. Go on and appeal. Now that 73 could turn to two, three B's, so go ahead, open it up, do your thing. They got it. I mean, you know, or you could just come on with that 70 right now.
Starting point is 01:01:33 That's right. Now, I saw Duval post you, man. You was at a show the other day. I forgot what y'all performing at. Community service. Community service. And he said that you just one of the best performers, one of the best lyricists out there.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Which people feel, how did that make you feel? It made me feel good, man. It's long overdue. I've always thought that the talent and the craft, I've always had respect for it. And to get my flowers for it, man, it's long overdue. I mean, I feel like that if you love the craft and respect it like the way I do,
Starting point is 01:02:09 because people can get your music, get your album or whatever, and that's one thing for somebody to have your album. But I think that once the album die down, and then it just only depends on your talent and what you have to offer in a live show. You feel what I'm saying? Like, oh well, I wanna see Dro perform live.
Starting point is 01:02:31 You know what I mean? Because Shawty's live show, crazy. I had to see it, but once I met him in person and I seen it live, it carries. You know what I mean? So I appreciate it, man. What would Dro's new music sound like? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:44 Because you see Kendrick put out the party, the party was the Party Must Die record, and we hear what La Crave been saying, and D1, how they want more positive messages in the music. Is it gonna be that? Are you gonna really give the ministry? Most definitely, I'm gonna make sure that I set aside time and use my vocals
Starting point is 01:03:01 to put back into what happened to me, you know what I mean? And for, use it for like a positive outlook on things, but I will not stop telling my truth and what's happening to us as a community and what society has to offer us, you know what I mean? Like, I won't shy away from telling you how I took a pill that killed me. I won't shy away from telling you how I took a pill that killed me.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I won't shy away from telling you that they serving them. You feel me? I won't shy away from telling you that most of the things that we do in the hood comes from like drug use. Like a lot of things that go on in the hood, man. People be using drugs and with the mental state that we have, man, we out here doing the wrong stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:43 You know what I'm saying? So I won't shy away from that. And I also use my platform to do songs with people like D-Trek Haddon, like, run out of time, you know what I mean? And 1K Few, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Now Tia, I gotta ask.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Now you recently said, I will raise this child to torture you the way you tortured me. Talk about King about to have his first child. Is that true? I mean, listen man. I mean, he seems like the child that gave you the most problems.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Man, I mean to be honest with you, I'm gonna keep it a book. King is, you know, he's always been a rambunctious, outgoing, energetic child. You know what I'm saying? But just to be honest, compared to me and the shit that I did, he ain't really gave them kinds of problems. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:40 He gave something that might resemble, like it could become that, but he never did the kind of shit that I was doing, that I know about. So I can't say that he just gave me a whole lot of problems, but the problem that he did give, he gonna get them back, cause he gonna have a son and his son.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I'm just telling you now. I'm just telling you. And he gonna understand, he gonna understand what it mean. King used to do shit, like let me tell you something. So I put, you know, Major, I wanted to put Major and, and King in like one of the best schools in Atlanta, Woodward. And we went, and Deja had already went to Woodward,
Starting point is 01:05:27 and so now, you know, it was time for Major to find him a new school, and I'm like, well, we'll put Major there, we'll put King there with him. So we'll take Major and King, and we do the test, you know, you had to have the, you know, the consultation, and they had the kid take a test, and we'll have you. Major passed, flag colors, and they had to have the kid take a test and what have you. Yeah major pass flying colors
Starting point is 01:05:46 And it was like major Sure, I'm sure we find a spot for him. He's definitely what material say, but your other son Is he okay? What you mean is he okay? Say these are the lowest test scores we've ever seen. This man went in here and intentionally failed the test. He wouldn't have to go to private school, man. He wanted to stay in public school like that with his friends.
Starting point is 01:06:13 And so that's the kind of shit he did. You know what I'm saying? Like it ain't bad, but it like, boom! It actually shows his genius. In a crazy way, that shows his genius. I know how to stick around. I know how to be where I wanna be. He still didn't get to be where he wanted to be.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I sent him way on the other side of town to another school that he couldn't stand, but he made through, he stuck through it, and you know what I'm saying? And then COVID happened, so that kinda shined on him. Now there was another video of you and Busey talking to your sons about the video with the firearms in it.
Starting point is 01:06:45 So how was that conversation? Cause I know he was just like, dad, come on, dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, he don't never, like he always look at me like, bro, coming from you. Do you know your life? I mean, like that's how he always, I'm like, nah, nah, nah, you didn't even know me back then.
Starting point is 01:07:03 You feel me? But he done heard a lot of stories. You know, just like me and Dro sit around and talk about it and then you hear my other uncles and aunties and my mama talk about how they had to deal with me, you know what I'm saying? So he like, all right, you gonna come tell me anything. I'm like, nigga, like this, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:07:21 But that's actually a part of a show that we remember me, Boosie, King, and Tootie. So that was a part of a show. But it was a real video and we did actually, I think the camera people knew what was going on, but they didn't necessarily tell us. So when we walked up, we were kinda, really, really kinda in shock a little bit for real.
Starting point is 01:07:46 We knew we were coming to film, but we didn't know that this was gonna be it. You know, I thought it was gonna be more so, just like them using I-cars and, you know, trying to imitate a life today, but I ain't like, nigga, I ain't know y'all finna do all this. You know, so that was a real moment, but it was fun.
Starting point is 01:08:01 You look like you was running off, you was like, I can't be nowhere around this, I had to, yeah. And man, one of the funny part, I don't know if this is on the clip that was shown. One of the funny part, Boosie looked at one and said, hey, you. Yeah, see, you been hanging around a lot.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Oh yeah, that's on there. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You gonna have to pay your dues. Like, you know what I'm saying? But all these things, I feel like it's important. And I feel like, I'm gonna put the, cause we did like a pilot episode. I'm gonna go and put it at,
Starting point is 01:08:32 because I think it's important, as I watch it again, we sitting down and we are, as two black men, we are fellowshiping collectively, as well as individually, dealing with raising our sons into to be strong black men. And it's one part, man, well, me and Boosie talking, and he just said straight up, man, look, man, I don't wanna see my son in prison. I don't wanna go visit my son in no damn jail.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I don't wanna do that. And I'm like, man, I get it, I get it. And I'm like man, I get it, I get it. And he like man, you know, I want to take it down with him. I said, no, you can't take it down with him. That ain't gonna be. I don't know. Bootsy said it, so it should mean anything. I'm like, nah, that ain't gonna do it.
Starting point is 01:09:19 And so just us feeding off of one another's wisdom and experience and using it to benefit how we deal with our sons. That's something that the rest of the world needs to see. I swear. How do y'all deal with the significant others? Cause I know Damani has a baby now, King, the baby shower went viral.
Starting point is 01:09:40 What is the parental check in the household? What that mean? Like when they bring like their girlfriends home or you like to one person? No, I stay out there business. I don't do that. I don't get into that. Like who they dating and what and that ain't my business.
Starting point is 01:09:53 You know what I'm saying? That's one less thing for me to have to worry about. I don't really deal with that. I just make sure that they being respectful and that they being respected. You know what I'm saying? Like that really, and that's really, I mean, that's really all that matter to me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:13 That the respect level is there. Everybody being treated fairly, you know? And after that, you know, whether the love last forever or whether it's only here for a period of time, as long as the respect has been there. That's all that's important to me. Let's get into the single right now. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Thank God. Let's thank God and we appreciate you brothers for joining us. I was wondering how y'all got a radio show, y'all ain't played no damn music. Where did you go ever play some music? Well we appreciate you brothers for joining us. Right on man, we appreciate y'all man.
Starting point is 01:10:42 And one more thing man, cause you know, I just wanna say, could y'all please stop telling everybody, you know, exactly how much money I had? Y'all gonna get me wrong. The coach put it out there. That's the most- Everybody on the radio. Tiny was live after the-
Starting point is 01:10:57 She did. She was live. Got it. The coach put that out there, too. Hey, put the bills out there. Put the bills out there, too. You send me a financial breakdown, I got you. For real? I got you. Send me a breakdown. Okay, say less. The coach put that out there too. Put the bills out there. Put the bills out there too. Put the bills out there.
Starting point is 01:11:05 You send me a financial breakdown, I got you. For real? I got you, send me a breakdown. When we get more music, Dro, what's next? PSC, Dro's solo, Tip's solo, what is it? We got some, I'm gonna snag a couple of records that Dro and Tip got together and that joint project gonna be there.
Starting point is 01:11:20 The PSC got a project coming out with DJ Drama, you feel me, still in the streets, and Dro and Zay Toven got a project coming out called 10 Piece Hot Man, make sure you bring blue cheese. You know, so all of that's on the way. Word. Well, it's T.I.'s Young Dro, it's The Breakfast Club, good morning. You did.
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