The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: A Very Serious Interview With Donnell Rawlings

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

Best of 2025- Kings of Comedy - Kevin Hart, Andrew Schultz, Donnell Rawlings Interviews. Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for p...rivacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hold on. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The breakfast club. Are you all finished or y'all's done? Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:12 It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Shalermaine the guy. We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. One of the most slept-on comedians of our generation. Donnell Rollins, ladies gentlemen. Donnell.
Starting point is 00:00:21 One of the most slept-on comedians of our generation, Donnell, man. Donnell. What's up, Donnell? How are you feeling, man? Clean in the air. How are you feeling? I'm feeling good. I feel like I just got this product and it works wonders.
Starting point is 00:00:35 It's supposed to remove negative energy. Oh, there's no negative energy here, man. It's a positive energy here. It's a palisanto spray and it works wonders for people to have negative. Well, how are you feeling, man? How's your son? I've seen you on the river. I've seen you really enjoying life, man.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I appreciate that, man. It's horrible. Really? Yeah. And it's got even worse since you recommended a therapist for me to go see. Oh, yeah, you started going to see. You started going to therapy. Yep, and he gave me horrible advice.
Starting point is 00:01:03 What was the advice? It was a situation with me dealing with, like, baby mama drama. Okay. And I say, sometime I get to a point where I'm just frustrated, I don't know what to do. And then he said, what would you do? If you were doing a comedy show, right, and you wasn't, the audience wasn't engaged, whatever, what would you do? I said, well, I've had that situation where I had to fall back, regroup, speak a little slower.
Starting point is 00:01:26 You know what I'm saying? And start all over. And he said, why don't you do that? relationship and I tried that and it still didn't work. So thank you for giving me the worst therapist in the world. That's not a bad therapist. What happened when you tried it? What happened when you tried it?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Why didn't it work? It just didn't work. I think we, I don't know. It just didn't work. I saw you post your son's birthday, though, and it seemed like y'all are. But that's the son. That's not the mother of his child. Yeah, but you posted pictures with her.
Starting point is 00:01:50 So I figured all the co-parent stuff was going well. It is going well. It's a tough thing. I'll tell you for anybody that's doing co-parenting, it's tough. especially when you still may have some emotions involved, whatever. But I will say this. I dated this. Oh, you still have emotions?
Starting point is 00:02:04 No. No, come on. It's okay. Open us. All right. Can we have rules? Can we have rules of engagement? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Like, you're going to have to raise your hand. You're going to have to do something different. All right? The way you communicate, I don't really like it. And I was trying to explain. I dated this girl some years ago, right? And she got separate. She was separate.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Her parents divorced when she was young, right? And I also, I used to always see You said raise his hand When you have the question But still have emotions But still you gotta let me finish You have to let me finish my sentence Is this about the mother of your child
Starting point is 00:02:36 Or this is another one? It's about what I wanted to be about Okay, okay Yes I'm just asking Guys all hairs together guys So I used to see When I used to date
Starting point is 00:02:47 Her parents were still together They would do Thanksgiving They would do dinners And do all this type of stuff And I used to say They must be smashing no way that they are that connected to each other. But as I got older or had this situation in my life,
Starting point is 00:03:01 I was like, no, they was just trying to give or create the best family situation as a co-parent they could do. So that's what I do, I imply it in my life. And we do do a good job. But you wish I asked if she let you? No. So you don't have emotions is what his question was.
Starting point is 00:03:16 No, I don't. I mean, I don't think she still likes you. I don't think she still likes me. But I, what? What? What is emotions? Because you said this emotion involved. You said that.
Starting point is 00:03:25 That's what you said. He said it can be hard when emotions. When the emotions are still in the ball. Thank you. Thank you for the clarity, Jess. Well, no, you still have emotion. She still has emotion. Nobody has emotion.
Starting point is 00:03:34 We are raising a beautiful young man. And I mean, this is one thing I say about my co-parenting situation. A lot of times when mom and dad are not together like that, it's separate. It's like my mother and my father. You know what I'm saying? But my son, whenever he talks, he speaks on us as a family. As parents. As parents, it's not like I'm going to my mother's house or my father's house.
Starting point is 00:03:55 We've done a good job with that. And Austin is a beautiful kid. Do you regret anything? Did you regret anything in that situation? Of a relationship? Yeah, because you said before that you were the one that messed it up, correct? I didn't say I was the one to mess it up. I can see that, though.
Starting point is 00:04:07 We can see you being the one to mess it up. What were you saying? So when you go on stage, do you talk about, you know, your past relationship or your co-parenting relationship with your son's mother on stage? Oh, yeah. Has she ever heard about that? Oh, yeah. Does she like it?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Is that? No. That's what you were wrong. No, it was, I'm going to tell you, she knows me. My life is going to go on stage, right? Yeah. She understands that, but sometimes with people get in your head, you know what I'm saying, like what she thought was a funny jokes.
Starting point is 00:04:33 One of her girlfriend comes, uh-uh, I don't believe he did that and he gaslighting and all that stuff. We had that situation. But, you know, I mean, you dated a comedian. That's what it's going to be. My life is going to be on stage. But I'm always, I never would do or say anything to put her in the bad light or anything. Because at the end of the day, she gave me the biggest gift of my life. So I'm forever grateful for that.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I even said, you know, there's a certain, it's a certain amount for someone that have your care. It's a certain amount of love. I think you're going to always have. Yeah. Does that mean getting back together or rekindling anything? It doesn't, but it's a certain amount of love and respect I always have. The next question. Did you ever ask how it affects her when you go on stage and talk about it? Because that
Starting point is 00:05:08 could bring trauma. Did you ever, like, get to the bottom? No, I don't, I don't. I can't. Man, if I go. You said you care. So if I care, but I don't care. Because I... Damn. That didn't come out of therapy. That was disgusting. That was disgusting. Can you call on me? Yeah, go ahead. Do you think that
Starting point is 00:05:24 And my brother said the gays don't really like you the way you think they do. When you said that you know that's what he said. When you said, he said get over yourself. When you say dating a narcissist, speaking of not being able to get over yourself, when you talk about dating a narcissist, do you think that's triggering for the mother of your child? I didn't say date. So you don't know who the narcissist is. You clearly.
Starting point is 00:05:41 How do you know that's me? Because of what you just said. Because she didn't sign up for that part of it. All right, what we're going to do is we're going to have to slow down. All right? This is just too much going on right now. You can't track. All right?
Starting point is 00:05:52 We're going to slow down. So either way, it's triggering because whether or not she had to date you who's the narcissist or you're calling her a narcissist, that is gaslighting. It's up to the interpretation of who think, I don't know who the fucking narcissists is. You don't think that's gaslighting her in a narcissist? I don't know what the fucking narcissist really is. Right. All I know, every time I use it, it come up in my algorithms. The minute we argue about something, it's always, and the narcissist woman would do this.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I don't know what the fucking narcissist is. I just think it's a word that you use to sell books and make my money on the side. I feel bad for her because, you know, she didn't sign up for that part of it. I'm just saying. She just sits there and tries to raise her child. And you just talk about her own. You are the narcissists. Is that my hand right?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yes. Now, Donnell, you've always been raw and unfiltered. Has being too real ever cost you opportunities in this industry and in your personal life? Oh, great question. Has been, no, because I am who I am. I don't act like I'm anybody else. And then with me is what you, what you said with you don't like the version of you. I don't really care about what people like.
Starting point is 00:06:51 If I'm presenting myself the best way I can and I'm, putting it out there like I want to, I can't care about people like, I can't let, I can't let, I can't let, uh, I can't let, uh, I can't let people control what I'm doing on stage or off stage. Yes. Do you think, you know, are you so quiet. I'm just, oh. Yes. You know, I'm just in here observing. I just, you know, it's been a while observing observing. Observing. What do you see? What do you see? What is observing? In your perspective. Is it a V or a V? Observing. I think he's having a hard time tracking because, you know, you know, No, as he gets up there. Too many people at one time. What does get up there mean? Up on the chair where you sat down at. Oh, okay. What?
Starting point is 00:07:31 Question. Do you think that, you know, you lost your edge now that you change, you play pickleball, you're on a river. You do white things more than... Pickle ball gives... You do white shit. Niggie, you was riding bikes for bikers shorts on, sir. You did that for six months.
Starting point is 00:07:45 That is true. You had a fair point. With the shoes that go into the thing, you were doing that shit, sir. You know the shoes that you put inside the pedal. The bike shoes. I lost my edge a little bit. That's my asking you. You did that shit for three weeks,
Starting point is 00:07:58 so you put that shit in the garage. You got your photo app. You probably got a sponsorship for that. And he was like, okay, on to the next. That's what you did, sir? But I don't lose no edge. What edge? I don't lose no edge.
Starting point is 00:08:09 You did it. I saw you did the Chris Brown challenge the... My friend, Javanta Roberts, I did. That's my TikTok. That's my TikTok. That's my TikTok. I did it. You killed it.
Starting point is 00:08:17 No, you did it better than I thought you man. You killed it. You ain't losing no edge. I, uh... I was horrible. I wasn't that bad. I wasn't that bad. I mean, I thought it was fun.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It was fun. And it was like, it's a lot to, I mean, the only, I did that part, right? Yeah, yeah. I did that. Even this part right here. And I did, I did that. The only part I had was I had that. I did that.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I did that. And then I did this part right here. And then I did that. And then I did that. And then I did that. And your brother, son. And that was it. And then I came back, I did the robot after that.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I had to mix it up. We were thinking about you earlier. Thinking about something that Sholomey and I were talking about that, you know, since we got to this age, it's very enjoyable. Have you ever thought about getting a bidet? No. Why? I just don't, no, that's not my thing.
Starting point is 00:09:17 That's the gateway. The gateway to what? A clean booty. A clean booty? That's a gateway to your lifestyle. A clean booty. That's what it is. You wouldn't be who you are right now
Starting point is 00:09:28 if you didn't your first boudet. First of all, there's nothing wrong with a boudet. I'm not here for all of this. Have you ever been gay? Have you ever been gay for a bidet? Oh, you have gifts. No, I'm sorry. This is unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's not a thing, it's not a, just right here. It's because I've had, and there's nothing, no slight on the ladies in here, but I've had a history with these guys. Okay. For so many years. And I... You came up here with gifts for them to.
Starting point is 00:09:56 We didn't earn our gifts yet. Can I ask you a question for I open this box? I raised my question. See, I told me you getting up there. You couldn't even see you. Can't even see you. What? Can you ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:10:09 As a black comedian, how do you balance being funny with being a cultural truth tell? How do what? How do you balance being funny with being a cultural truth teller as a black comedian? How do you balance? I don't understand that question. What do you mean? How do you balance being funny
Starting point is 00:10:22 And also being a cultural truth teller I'm a truth teller that happens To inject humor with that So I'm always going to tell the truth And if that truth happens to be funny That's what it is I don't really go out Looking for a joke
Starting point is 00:10:34 I just try to recreate life And situations that I come in contact With and I put it on the stage So my people always say Donnell that joke did you tell Was that the truth? I don't lie on stage Anything I say is really what happened
Starting point is 00:10:48 in my life So that's that if that answers your question Now, check out your, what is this? What is this? It's a gift. Open the gifts, please, so we can see what y'all got. I have a question. Do you feel like you're a sensitive comedian? I'm jealous.
Starting point is 00:11:00 1,000%. Why is that? Because usually comedians are you should be able to take a joke and give a joke. But sometimes I feel like you can, oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, shit. Get a close up. Get a close up.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Get a close up. Yo. Get a close up. You got a gay force once. Look, get a close up. You got me a pair of games. No, no, no, look, it's our, my greatest moments of fucking with y'all. This is fine.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Those are lit, Donnell, that is so cute. They're actually fired. Now I understand why me and Jess don't have them. These are dope. You should have had the pink shoelaces. I do apologize. I feel bad about it. They should have the pink shoelaces out of Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Guy, artist out of Baltimore. He did that. This is a very thoughtful. It was supposed to be thoughtful. It's not. It was not. I just wanted to. I wanted you all to see the memories.
Starting point is 00:11:50 my birthday and I'm going to wear them this weekend these aren't even the same pictures on both of them that's crazy this is amazing Donna this is very thoughtful did I say Diddy thank you were thinking of me I thought I saw Diddy on that side of it Let me see no I would love it no the other shoe other shoe yeah did he would be on his because he sat Between Diddy's legs I didn't sit between diddy legs I slipped oh it's a booty I'm not I slipped in a puddle of what of oil no I was I'm not going I'm not going revisit that. That's all of my life. I'm not going to lie. When you read it, did you skit? I thought that was hilarious. That one was spot on. Yeah, I'm going to always be insulting to you guys. I loved it,
Starting point is 00:12:29 actually. Donnell, how frustrating is it, right, when people are not taking you serious because you're a comedian? It's interesting because I really, for what we do, I don't really want people to take me serious. I want them to find me to be funny. You know what I'm saying? People take you too. That's not true. That's not your question. You raise your hands. No, that's not true. You like to be taking serious. Yeah. That you actually get very frustrated when people don't take you as serious as they should. What makes you think I get frustrated? Because you told me that verbatim. You remember when you told me that? Remember when you yelled at me over the phone? And I didn't realize that you were playing. I thought we were playing. And then you was like, no, you don't ever
Starting point is 00:13:15 take me serious. And that's that. That's a horrible impression of me. You said, I would like to get a real interview for once. Like every other comedian that comes up here. No, I remember that? No, it's a gift and a curse if you want to say. Yeah. You know, because it's times you want people to understand it. You're serious.
Starting point is 00:13:31 But at the end of the day, as a comedian, I don't want people to take me that serious. I want people to, you know, think of funny and laugh at the jokes. Yeah, but in times when you are really serious, you know, like we were talking about your dad, you know, and how he placed and everything. You're trying to trigger something. I'm not. I just want I just said the timing sometimes
Starting point is 00:13:52 and there's times that I have moments and I was having a moment that went viral and you laughed and you laughed and I thought that was very insensitive
Starting point is 00:14:02 what did we laugh at when I he was saying when he had grew up and he remember who's laughing now we're not laughing I'm finding funny
Starting point is 00:14:16 That's not. I said, I said, I remember when I had, I was trying to explain a part of my life. And I think that it was very insensitive. That's only because we laughed before you got to the part about your uncle. What about, it was, it was, it was about my dad. It was his dad, not his uncle. He never gave a friend. No, it was, that was the part about that.
Starting point is 00:14:42 No, I thought he laughed about your dad passing away another time. What? But the other part when you were talking about being grown up I said when I grew up I was trying to go back to a story of my childhood Oh, I thought that was related to the relationship I had with my son And then when I was doing that, that's when y'all left
Starting point is 00:14:57 But I, you know, I've gotten past that You know? Your brother spent a lot of time with your uncle more than you? Who's your uncle? First of all My brother who happened to be a part of the letter community said that the gays don't like
Starting point is 00:15:22 what is trade trade charlemagne yeah trade he comes off as like not but he said he said you are not trade well yeah so that means you plan boy he said you're not he said you're not trade and um nobody's checking for you trade was like a nice kiss of trade is a masculine potentially straight identifying man who engages in same sex activity for various benefits like money our companionship so what I've been told is that I'm not trade I'm actually a butch queen oh wow so you're brother that call all he sounds very tradie hello so I have shot a man here he had a question
Starting point is 00:16:03 for you Chuck okay good morning so you don't consider me trade no what about what about a boy no come on what about a butch queen. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, his brother said absolutely. But what is a, what is a, what is a, what is a, what is a what is a, what the kids who call Charlemagne?
Starting point is 00:16:29 The Y-N's. The Y-Ns will call them. No, not the Y-N's. The older ones. I don't know what a, and Donnell would be a bear, right? What is, what am I? What is a bear? That's envy, Evie said, what is it?
Starting point is 00:16:45 is he? I don't really know what they put the light scare people. Oh, it's a whole different category because of your complexion? Well, I guess What did you say? There's rules to this.
Starting point is 00:17:03 What are the rules? I'm giving them to you. Okay, I'm here to listen. What else you want to you to just ask? Well, Chatea May would not be trained but Bush Queen, absolutely. Is Charlotte man the top of bottom? I'm a power top, clearly.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Um, you're a versatile. That would be me. I can see that. I can see me being versed. I'm flexible. Could you leave your brother alone now? Teller, last thing, last thing. His brother, I mean, tell your brother that he loves doing tricks on the bidet.
Starting point is 00:17:39 What is that? Oh, Charterman loves doing tricks on the boday. What is that? Being prepared, being well prepared. Okay. All right. I told him that was, I told him that was the gateway, the gateway. But the getway, the gateway.
Starting point is 00:17:56 But thank you for giving me a little bit more acknowledge on who this motherfucker really is. Thank you, Chuck. Anytime. You're not taking it easy. All right. Take it easy, Sheldon. I tried to be nice to you. This is what I want to say.
Starting point is 00:18:10 No, why don't you just shut the fuck up. Hurry in. How about that? Have you ever tried that? Can I ask a question? No. I got my hair rate. Can you have your hand to shut the fuck up?
Starting point is 00:18:20 Can I have my hand? I got my hand raised. No, shut the fuck up. I don't want to ask you a question about your son. Oh. That is not a good transition. That is not a good transition. That is not a good transition.
Starting point is 00:18:32 All right, what? If your son watches your career years from now, what's the lesson you want him to take away? His dad tried everything to make, to make people feel good about themselves. It's so funny because my son, he knows what I do. This is so interesting. One day, it was over the summer, we were talking. And I don't think he knows, like, some of the things I did, movies and stuff like that. So I was like, you know, I said, you know, Daddy, Dad is somewhat of accomplished actor or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:56 He was like, yeah, so I just started showing him different things that I've done. What's the first thing you showed him? I showed him a scene with me on HBO's, DeWire. Okay. It was a scene when my character just got introduced. It was me in the back room with Lieutenant Daniels. And I'm in there talking trash, like, yo, I would steal this. I was still list.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And I said, my name is Damien Price, but I mostly go by Day Day. And then on the other end, he says, my name is Daniels, I mostly go by Lieutenant, right? So now that I find out that it's a cop in here, right? So I asked my son, I said, what do you see in that scene? He said, I see somebody that's about to get in trouble. Me, right?
Starting point is 00:19:34 He said, Daddy, did you get arrested in that scene? I said, yeah. So I'm just thinking as an actor. I said, I want to show him the other scene. He said, I don't want to see that, Daddy. You know I'm an actor. I said, it's not real, it's make believe. He said, yeah, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:19:45 want to see my father getting locked up. And I, you know, I never thought that he he's separated. He's like, he knows I'm an actor whatever, but he's in no situation he wanted to see me get locked up. And it made me think about my father. Like, I used to actually go visit my father. You know, and I,
Starting point is 00:20:00 um, where was he in? Where? Lewis. Lewis. Burr. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember Yeah. And I remember. Oh. This is what you did to me. You see that? I'm traumatized.
Starting point is 00:20:15 As soon as I said, I remember. Even your people started laughing. Soon as I said, this is what this nigga did to me. Soon as I say, I remember, I felt something. Traumatized. Yeah. Push through it. What you remember?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Going to see your dad in jail. Yeah, and I just stick behind the glass and everything. And I thought that was normal. And that's why I don't understand how some guys put themselves in a position where that would be how you fucking not raise your kids or be in that situation that's why we got to start shaming people that's in the street I don't judge people for what they did during survival but we do have to start clowning people when they're doing street stuff that can take them away from their family yeah my father was a perfect example that my father
Starting point is 00:21:01 was a heroin king's been to DC some years ago right and he's been he was he passed away sorry yeah some time ago right but but close to the in his life come to find out he was still in the streets he was still selling drugs and he was selling drugs like he was in the 70s the code words they was using, yo I'm at the place, how many nuggets do you
Starting point is 00:21:25 need? Like 30, 100 I'm like how to fuck you how old was he when he passed? My dad was like 72. 72. Yeah, but he was still in the streets in the 70s. That's what I understand. But that's when somebody say somebody's a born hustler, it's like
Starting point is 00:21:41 what would make you jeopardize your freedom relationship would you have your kids some people was just built for the streets and that was it was unfortunate but i'm like when do you stop that so your relationship wasn't a close relationship when he passed it was no we was we was as close as you i mean he most of my life he was in prison you know what i'm saying so we didn't have i don't have anything bad to say about we just didn't have that type connection but you know i was a young boy growing up just like one relationship with his father it didn't exist you ever try to get him out because you are accomplished you are doing well and say dad you ain't got to do this no
Starting point is 00:22:13 You can just raise, stay with me, raise your grandson. Stay with me or push him out the streets or you was just... No, my dad had too much pride to probably ask anybody for anything, you know? You know what's crazy? I have my hand raised. We see. You want to go to him down now? What?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Okay. Have you unpacked any of this in therapy? Because she's about to move on and not even care about any of this. No, no, no. It's in relation to what he's talking about with his dad. Have you unpacked any of this? No, I mean, I haven't unpacked it in therapy. I don't know if I need therapy for that.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I just look at, I look at my phone. father and I use that as an example of what I don't want to do with my son that's why one of the things with my son I always like make memories make memories so I've instilled that in him and then I just remember when I do things with him when I take my son on the river when I do trips and everything it just reminds me the things that didn't do my dad and it makes me want to be more aggressively in my my son's like even though me and Stephanie are together like I'm like actively like I'm involved with my son's life anybody to follow me they know that or anybody know that know me know that you want a hug right now
Starting point is 00:23:13 I don't want to help. Did you let your son see your greatest role? Since you are an accomplished actor, did you let him see your greatest role ever? What you considered be my greatest role ever? When you played the pizza heist guy in Spider-Man part two? The Pizza Heights wouldn't?
Starting point is 00:23:27 That wasn't my greatest role, but it was... That was amazing. You killed that line. For a kid, to be a part of that, he enjoyed that. Can you show him the line? Because they probably didn't see it. So it's a...
Starting point is 00:23:40 What's the Spider-Man nigger name? Spider-Man. He's like, Spider-Man, nigga. Toby, he's working for this pizza company, right? And every day he's delivering these pizzas. He's late. He's late. And then they tell him, they say, yo, if you late one more time, you're going to get fire for your job.
Starting point is 00:23:59 So he's driving down the street. You know what I mean? He's looking at a clock. He's going to be late. So he gets off the bike. He goes in the alley, and then he comes back as Spider-Man for the pizza box. and he's like whoa
Starting point is 00:24:14 he stole that guy's pizza ta-da I've always worked but you want to know to provide me let me tell you something interesting story about that when I got that role for Spider-Man they do what you call
Starting point is 00:24:30 audition it's called reaction audition like they'll just give you a scenario they'll just be like this you're in the elevator Spider-Man comes in there how are you going to respond you walking down the street
Starting point is 00:24:39 how you're going to respond they audition you and just see what your improv reaction is going to be. So before I got that role, that was some years ago, I was supposed to do Man on the Street for BET Awards, right? And at that time, from my generation of commas, it wasn't a lot of opportunities.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So being a part of BT, anything, it was a big deal. So I was excited that I was going to be this man on the street guy. The guy who was directing it, he wanted me, but the producers were still sketchy about it. So, you know, we had talked, we had talked. And up until Friday, that Friday, We did a wardrobe. I had got a wardrobe fitting and all that.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And I was supposed to go to work that Saturday morning for BET. I get a call at night and they said the producers want to go in a different direction. They was like, the road that I thought I was going to have the man on the street, it just disappeared. And this was like, I mean, within 24 hours. So I wasn't fucking with BET. I was like, they'd be on some bullshit. I was upset about that. Then the next morning, I get a call from my manager and he said, we got a call from Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:25:39 team they want you to come to work right and that was so crazy and the crazy thing about it was where the location where I was supposed to do the BET situation it was literally right around the corner from the Spider-Man set so I had to walk past the BET set and niggas was looking to be like did anybody tell him like I walked past and Sam Ramey he came up to me he said down here you're my favorite actor in New York well you're the only actor I know in New York and what they do is I didn't know what I was going to do he's got a stick right here with an X on it he said he tells you the situation
Starting point is 00:26:15 he said so Donil this is this is Toby right he goes through the alley he does like just to see your eye line he said and he comes out as Spider-Man he said what are you going to say and I just said whoa he stole guys pizza and that was the improv line
Starting point is 00:26:31 and he kept in the rest of the day that's all he kept saying for the rest of that so it just worked it's funny how one situation got shut down and it opened up because nobody would have remembered me doing a man on the street stuff for BET, but I go down in history being a part of that brand, and I had one line, but it was fun. Did you ever get any cheeks because of that one appearance in Spider-Man too?
Starting point is 00:26:50 I didn't get any cheeks from it, but I made my friend's kids very happy. Like one of my friends, it was a funny, because, you know, Dad's always going to try to be proud. My friend, Brooklyn, Mike, right? At the time, his daughter was young at the time, and he said, you know, my daughter, said, can Daddy, can you introduce me to Spider-Man?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Can Donnell introduce me to Spider-Man? And, of course, he'd been a dad. He said, well, you know, I know Spider-Man, too. And his daughter looked at him and said, I know, but Donnell worked with Spider-Man. So anytime I got to flex for kids or whatever like that, but I never got no ass on that. I don't believe any of these stories happen
Starting point is 00:27:27 because there's one little line in Spider-Man, too. What? I think he put in a lot of songs on. He's Spider-Man adjacent. You got negative image. I was in the wind of pain you. Spider-Man? The movies that, you know, over and over and
Starting point is 00:27:38 That was, I probably got about $2,000, $3,000. Oh, even with the royalties and all that? No, I mean, it constantly comes. But after a while, you know, it's not like crazy amount. But you get paid a little something. You know, I'm just saying. Do you feel that the industry rewards the comedians who take risk or the ones who play it safe?
Starting point is 00:27:59 I don't think it's the industry that is the connection. It's the audience. You know, it's the audience. At the end of the day, all we're trying to do is build a fan. We could be in film and TV all we want. But for real, a comedian that's a real comedian. At the end of day, your biggest concern, can I put my name on the market and can people come and check me out telling jokes?
Starting point is 00:28:25 So I don't get caught up in what the industry does. I'm a part of the industry, but I make a living without it. If I don't ever get another film or TV gig for the rest of my life, the fact that I can make money telling jokes, it's a win. So I look it like that. Yeah. you're telling jokes this weekend actually at the um yeah
Starting point is 00:28:41 at the stress factor yes sir speaking of stress factor I don't trust your face what is your problem I'm just like you holding back it's like your face is holding back some type of negativity sir
Starting point is 00:28:56 and the funny thing about is that let's get to the real let's get to the real deal let's get to the real deal let's get to the real deal this is not how you talk to me off off you call me for advice.
Starting point is 00:29:08 You do you not? Do you not? Yeah. Do we have conversations? Do we have conversations? When you told me, you said, Donnie, I want to invest in money. You told me, you said you wanted to open up a gay club in South Carolina. So I did ask you about a comedy club.
Starting point is 00:29:23 No, you said a gay comedy club. You said, because the cocks are strong down there. It's funny on funny. You said the cox is popping down there. He's going to South Carolina. Yeah, whatever Cox is copped. It's a club funny would be dope for. gay comedy club but i don't know how to say this man i'm sick of you bad i'm really
Starting point is 00:29:47 sick of you would you like a biscuit i don't want if i did i just sell me ticket i'm telling you it's boberry what no i'm good i'm good or not you know no that joan look at some skeet magic on top but i don't know what you did no i'm good you sure i'm positive you looked at yes sir now now you've been in the game for a long time what keeps you motivated you to still hit the stage. What motivates Donnell? And what makes Donnell laugh at this time? Pills motivate me to go on stage.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah, but it just, I really, after 30-plus years, I still enjoy what I do. You know what I'm saying? You got a couple of people to go to a show. It's people that need to laugh and the people that want to laugh. When I do a show and people come up to me and they're like, you know what, I was having a bad day. I lost my honor or something.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I didn't expect to go out. Everybody said, come out and enjoy yourself. And when I talk to those people and then, like, you remove me from the, things that I was dealing with, you know, for at least 45 minutes, that's what kind of gives me motivated to do it. And every year, I try to evolve and get better. I really, really genuinely enjoy what I'm doing. Are you chasing legacy or chasing checks, Donna? I'm not, I'm definitely always going to chase checks, because that's what I do. But I don't know what my legacy will
Starting point is 00:30:59 be. You never know. You think people connect, but you don't never know. People like this, where are we living now. People are going to talk shit about anything. As much as you try to do the right thing, it's always going to be some negative energy. And as long as we try to not focus on that, we've been different... Why do you? Because you're quick to respond to negative energy. Negative things said to you, and it seems like you're the person that continues to do it, which keeps the motion continuing on. It's hard for me. The hardest thing, and it's easy for you say, you just don't give a fuck. It's hard not to give a fuck. It really is. You do care. And to a certain, I'm getting a little stronger with that.
Starting point is 00:31:35 But at some point, you like, you comments, I shouldn't be in the comments. But you read the comments and everything, you're like, oh, this shit is popping. This feels good. And then it's that one person that could throw you off. You know, one person, you're like, why don't you feel like everybody else feel? But I realize social media is just a, it's just a playground for people to be negative and nasty. You just realizing that today? No, not today.
Starting point is 00:32:00 No, not today. I've just, it's a constant thing. Have you in fact this with your therapist about why these comments? Why are you got to be about unpacking, man? Like what it may be triggering inside of you? I don't want to unpack. Why the fuck? Is that the new word?
Starting point is 00:32:13 Is it a comedian? Huh? Unpacking. Do you get like, when you do therapists, do you get words of the day like you have to use? Calm down, Donnell. I'm not upset. You know, please.
Starting point is 00:32:23 You want to hug. You do, you do, No, I don't want to hug. You do know that, you do know what you're doing, right? Calm down. You do know what you're fucking with me.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Breathe. Let's breathe. Breathe, breathe. I'm sorry. Did it regular people that do this to you or other comedians? No, comedians don't fuck with me. Oh, yes, they do. No, they don't.
Starting point is 00:32:44 They don't like him, he means. They don't like him. They don't like him, he says. They won't say it to me. Well, I love it. No, when? Tell me. Not of us love it.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I don't want to bring up anything old. I don't want to rehash you. No. Good job, show them. Yeah, but what I'm saying is anybody can be boisterousous online, but like face-to-face, it's a whole different story. Absolutely. And you give me an example.
Starting point is 00:33:04 of anybody that had an issue with me had brought it to my face I want to do it I want to I don't want to I don't want to talk about it no this is a good time for you to unpack no I will I will leave it there I will leave it there well well who you try to start some shit with Arness J when you call me you try to make it seem like I called to something like that and I got nothing but respect for honest you try to you try to start some shit you saw in beef with comedians now yeah you're starting it unpack it what that's not what happened unpack what the hell is he talking about you started something between him and aren't jay what's something
Starting point is 00:33:42 donnell what's something you learned about yourself recently that surprised me nothing I don't be learning shit about myself nothing that's the problem right if you weren't a comedian what would you be doing right now I would probably be a I wanted to be a car first I wanted to be architect but I wasn't that nice and math so I was like, that's not going to be a good thing. I would have probably been a carpenter. You'd have been a good sous chef.
Starting point is 00:34:09 No, you'd give carpenter. Yeah, I would have been, I would, it's definitely something, something, um, uh, blue collar, for sure. You don't think you've been a sous chef? I would have been a chef. I wouldn't have been a sous chef. How the hell does somebody give carpenter, Lauren? They just sit.
Starting point is 00:34:25 They got stories. They got a toolbox. They walk around with it. They, they come in your house and how you doing, man? Blue collar niggas get the most, minute to get across the living room. You want to know who fucks the hardest in the community? I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Football coach is a handyman. You need to personally? Handyman. Football coaches and handyman. Football coaches, especially in the inner city. Because there's so many fatherless kids out here. Coach Johnson is fucking all of the mothers. Just because he spent time with them kids.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Coach Johnson is amazing. Yeah. I mean, that's not a real name. But I just put it out there. Richard? Richard, Richard Johnson, out there just fucking everyone's mothers, these prodigious children. When you look at the state of comedy today, right? The climate of comedy, right?
Starting point is 00:35:14 What pisses you off and what makes you proud? Great question, Jess. Nothing pisses me off. I used to not understand certain things. And I would just say that, for example, like, I've been doing it for a very long time. And people that haven't been doing as long as I have, like yourself, you came along, you had different tools to advance yourself. You know, it's like a lot of older comments are like, well, they're on social media,
Starting point is 00:35:41 whatever, but those are tools that exist. Those are tools that they sharpen their toolbox to do that. But I do say with that, with all the success, like some young comedies get, like in the moment, I would really appreciate. People took the art form of stand-up to be good at it. And that's just like, okay, I got just five minutes of fame, whatever people come to see me, but really give a fuck about being a dope stand-up.
Starting point is 00:36:08 So you think social media comedians are watering down the art form? I don't think, I don't say watering down. Comedy is evolving. The definition, I remember some years ago, I was talking to this girl, and she was like this, I'm a comedian. I said, let me see some of your stuff. She said, I'm on YouTube. And she started showing me some skits.
Starting point is 00:36:27 I say, that's not a comedian. She said, yes, it is. Because when I think of the idea of comedian, I think of stand-up, stand-up. But if you really look at the definition of comedian, it says one who entertains the audience through humor. So what used to be the definition of a comedian, it has changed, and it's involved.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Chappelle's show wasn't a comedy. Why wasn't what? Chappelle's show wasn't a comedy about your logic. That makes no sense, kind of. I don't understand what you're saying. Because you said she showed you sketches and you said, this isn't comedy. No, stand up.
Starting point is 00:36:56 No, no, no, no. Because when she said comedian, I was just thinking stand-up comedian. You know what I'm saying? Not thinking to give you somebody make it like a sketch comedian. Yeah, it could be a sketch comedian. But she didn't say that. She just said she was a comedian and his mind automatically reverted. It went to like stand-up.
Starting point is 00:37:11 But she's a comedic actor or whatever you want to say. How do those comedians you talk about get their stripes then? Like what is that they do? Because not everybody that is online does stand-up. Where do you get their stripes? A lot of people, they first off, they want to know how they can get some more money. You know what I'm saying? It's like this, okay, I got this fan base.
Starting point is 00:37:29 You know what I'm saying? People following me. They see me doing sketches, but I want to turn into something else. So eventually it turns into you doing standard because how else are you going to get the other check if you don't go perform? So it just turns into that. I have my hand up.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Can I ask a question? I don't know what it is, but I just don't trust you, man. I'm having a real conversation. He hasn't trusted you. You need to really unpack that with you. I'm just asking in this long career that you had, you know, you've done stand-up, you've done skits, you've done comedy, you've done TV, you've done morning radio. Out of all the things that you did, what would you say is your biggest mistake that you've ever made,
Starting point is 00:38:10 that you think back and like, that was wrong. Or I apologize. I'll tell you what my biggest mistake was. First time I ever came on the show. Why do you feel that way? Because look at what it's created. It's created monster. I got to come up here.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I got to look at you. I got to worry about unpacking. and shit with this nigga over here and then wherever I go people are like well you let do fuck would you like that well and I don't that's probably the biggest mistake in my career was actually coming up here so why you keep coming back I gotta sell tickets promote shows first of all we don't fuck with you like that is such a false narrative so why would y'all come up here if y'all don't fuck on him no no no I mean like we don't fuck with him oh I was gonna say that is so my stuff nobody messes with Donnell oh
Starting point is 00:38:54 you think we fuck with you don't I don't even I used to like you oh wow you didn't speak to me when you walked in today I didn't notice I wouldn't I was yeah I was the thing when I come in here I don't know what to expect he's so triggered you know if you know my beyond measure change oh that's nice thank you he knows true fashion look at a sweater another question when you were in the Air Force right and you were stationed in South Korea what did you mean by what did I like your sweater it's okay thank you I know what did you what did you learn in South Korea that you still use in today's world.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Don't trust nothing about this show. You got three buttons and they are buttoning and it's crisp. Like that's wrong. What was you saying? I said when you were stationed in South Korea in the military, what did you learn there that you still use in today's business or in common? It was a phrase and it's, I'm gonna say it in Korean.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Poggi O'Mayo. What that mean? How much for the pussy? Oh, Poggi O Mayo. So you bought a vagina in Korea, South Korea. No, I didn't buy it. Why would you know that? Because it was.
Starting point is 00:39:56 was the phrase pogeo my yo you had to know that you have to know that if you weren't buying them okay all right i was 18 years old and i was over there stationed in career i was 18 years old i was on a remote base a remote base means that for every for every one female she has 15 or 20 guys to choose from and i wasn't in nobody top five so i had to learn how to say pogey oh my your issues don't come from the breakfast club they started back when you were over there and you were Damn. But I had a girlfriend over there. Is it a true that...
Starting point is 00:40:25 Called a yobo. It's called a yobo. A yobo is like a girlfriend for a year. Is it like, is how clear? Did they have like... Marited her? Pretty much. Boys?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Is that a... I didn't traffic her. I was in the country. You leased the lady? Yeah, you can lease a yobo. Was she a full lady? Yeah. She was...
Starting point is 00:40:41 I had to think about it. I have to think about everything on this show because I don't know the energy and where it's coming from. But yeah, I had a relationship. I was in relationship of it. I thought so for a year. You thought so. How much did you pay the lease, sir? Did Miles matter?
Starting point is 00:41:01 That's a great question. Did Miles matter? Was she a hole there and you didn't know? No, she wasn't a whole. She was a yobo. What's that mean? What's that being? Just so your partner for a year,
Starting point is 00:41:11 somebody to take care of you and make sure you're all right and make sure you get all your needs taken care of. But she wasn't a lady boy. No, she wasn't a lady boy. That's what I was asking. Do you have any favorite comedians these days like any any newcomers
Starting point is 00:41:24 and you got any favorites on the internet that you'd like to look at one of my guys is here right now Adrian Washington he just had he did the bucket pull on Kill Tony show I've been working with him for like a year I think that he was voted Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:41:39 40 minutes didn't even shot that brother out one time because we we shot it out your podcast co-host Gervante yeah Jervante Javanta Roberts Javanta Roberts Javanta Roberts
Starting point is 00:41:51 You just salute him at one time. And he's been sitting here for 40 minutes. Because we know what we do. Ignore each other? No, it'll be the right time for it. You ignore each other? It's the collective. I started this new thing.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I realized that I've been, I've had a lot of influence in this business. I know a lot of people. And I said, you know, I wanted to do something where I got a group of creatives that we come together. We have like creative retreats. We create content. And we pretty much. much hit all type of areas in this business and I was like instead of it's not like I represent anybody
Starting point is 00:42:26 but you we have a group of people and it's going I'm going to start this thing it's a raw edge collective where we come together as a crew and if somebody's like oh we need somebody to choreograph choreographed this dance routine but the first thing I'm thinking about is javanta why do you know why do you need choreographed dance routines yeah I'm not saying for myself I'm saying if somebody had a situation like that got you got you got you I'm going to be a TikTok sensation you'll see you'll see yeah that's right you said you influence people what what have you influence are people stealing your stuff and that's what me like no like I've helped a lot of comics I've helped a lot of comics get to certain levels I've why don't they give you credit
Starting point is 00:43:05 that's just part of business well I mean I'm they don't get their credit like Dave gets his credit all the time people you know like those guys get their credit why don't doesn't don't don't don't he'll rollin people like this word it happens sometimes sometimes people to say thank you. Some of times they don't. Yeah, I've never heard that. Kevin Hart gets his credit. Who have you helped?
Starting point is 00:43:28 Good question. A lot of people. No, you should, who? Like, yeah, who? Did you write for him? I don't want to talk about it. Because then I don't want to talk about. He helps me all the time.
Starting point is 00:43:36 He gives me great advice. I call him. I had a group years ago. And this probably was, this probably was, I'm sorry. It's hard for me to stay focused, Jess.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I'm so sorry. There's one person that raised their hand and said, hey, you help me. You don't even let him. go ahead go ahead go ahead that's all I was saying you just helped me you know just giving me inspiration and you know mentoring me and things like that just great advice I appreciate you're one of the best comedian you're one of the best stand-up comedians ever I really I really I really I appreciate you yeah and I say it all the time yeah you do and I probably repeat
Starting point is 00:44:09 myself I remember years ago you had reached out to me in a DM and this was when you was first starting the only thing you want to know is like what I need to do and I didn't I I didn't give you, I don't think I gave you any advice. I might have said, I think I might have said, get on stage. I think I might say get on stage. Everything you're going to learn is going to be from what you do as a performer. And it's interesting because I know people go at you or whatever, right? And the thing that fucks me up the most is like, if you don't respect anything about you,
Starting point is 00:44:37 respect your hustle, you know what I'm saying? Like people think it's easier. I know you get it all the time. Oh, because she got these followers, but those followers just don't come out of nowhere. They come from putting the work in. I've seen you grow as a stand-up. When we just did that show, where were we? You were in California, Sacramento.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yeah, and I was like, why don't they talk about this? You know, I've seen you captivate the audience. The way you act is, you just had that audience in the palm of your hand. And I'm like, I know you get a lot of dumb shit, but I look at you like, this is an example of somebody when you work hard at something and you put the work in, you'll get the results. You know, so I always shout, y'all. even not even when shit is happening you know I'll just call you like what's up
Starting point is 00:45:19 and check on a regular day yeah yeah I don't have any more questions I don't think this went the way I wanted can I can I why I was just this brought to my attention a comment that somebody posted you were on kill Tony I was yesterday
Starting point is 00:45:36 with Rob Snyder oh you went back okay nice and somebody she and I went back so you all made up everything was made up Kelton we know I know I I never had an issue with Kill Tony. It was really bad for you on that at one point.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It wasn't bad. It was. You got booed and booed. Nicky, what are you talking about? I didn't get booed on Kill Tony, son. Oh, that was another place. I got booed on Rose battles. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah. You got to get your boots. No, no, no, no. You walked off of Kill Tony. I removed myself from a negative motherfucking situation. Yeah, that guy was killed. I didn't say I had a got to. Could y'all please stop?
Starting point is 00:46:12 You walked off because the guy was killing you so bad. I didn't know. They didn't boo him that time. Javante, what happened? They didn't go him that time. Javanta, I'm sorry. Javanta, what happened? I didn't.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Come here, Javanna. Come to the mic. He crashed out. What, what happened? Okay, so. What? Be honest, be true. Don't you.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Don't get you. Don't be scared. Why did you? Did he hit you? Blink if you need help. Blink if you need help. I just don't, I just don't want to come on here and act like, Donna, I love you so much.
Starting point is 00:46:42 You've helped me as well. But he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, great representation link if you need help and work ethic tell us what happened at not last night but the time before he walked up well he has a tendency to crash out and so that's true at that point don't know don't look at him he was already gone he was already gone okay damn look at me at jess okay he was already gone and he he walked up what you think happened at the last one the last tape because there's a really negative comments that i'm about to read no no killed this last night yeah he killed it killed it there was nothing
Starting point is 00:47:15 There's a comment that says Donnell Rawlings brand of comedy is so bad to me like watching a train wreck Charlamagne is going to have a field day tomorrow. Damn. Jesus. Wow. Jesus. But see, those are your type of people. No, they're negative.
Starting point is 00:47:30 They're negative. They're negative. Those are your type. You love that. Nothing to do with you. You went through everything. You went through everything. No, Lauren showed me this.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And then. First of all, all I did was type your name and it was top of the, I didn't even go look for it. And she called you a top. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. I typed your name it on X and it just was like probably like top three tweets. At least he didn't get booed.
Starting point is 00:47:52 He didn't get booed again. That's the moment. That's the point. That's good on stage. Yes, he is. He's amazing on stage. Okay. I don't like him booing him, no.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Okay. The thing is, I did kill Tony some years ago. Yes. Five years ago, actually. And I was on that stage for two and a half hours and I had something to do. And I told Tony, I'm not going to be here forever. Two and a half hours of a long time. It's a very, very long time.
Starting point is 00:48:15 get a sushi date. I just didn't have a sushi date. It was one of those sushi spots where it takes a year to get a reservation. They sit six or eight people. It's not like going to sushi samba, sushi stop like to go. It was one of it. I don't even know the name of it. It's a speak easy joint. I wish I feel bad that I'm, it's like one of the best place in Austin, Texas. I had to go. And what happened was they did a video where they showed me having gone at with this comic. If you look at the video you'll see it's one shot one comedian it's another shot so they edit i know you explained the last time you know if you're explaining you're losing i don't want you to know that no no no if you're explaining you're losing no that is not what that means yes it does this comment right here
Starting point is 00:48:58 says what he say it says uh somebody named allegedly drew i don't know who that is he has a check mark says you were hilarious but donnell rawlings is the worst guess i've ever seen stereotypes are so real that's what he said to rob snider but that but the thing is that base and i will say tony has created a platform for people to get on that's one of the biggest you shows, whatever. But the people that watch that, they just, like, they are a lot of them, I say 75% in the people, they are trolls. They live
Starting point is 00:49:22 for moments like that. They live to try to get on your skin. And they do, every time. Does the troll never get on your nurse? So it does. You said they do. Sometimes, but I'm getting better. Do you want to hug? Ignore it? No, I don't want a hug. Well, I love you. I don't know what I want.
Starting point is 00:49:41 You have shows at the Stress Factory. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Is it six shows or five? It's two shows, Friday, two shows, Saturday, and one show on Sunday. I do well in that club. I'm pretty sure it will sell out. Gary Owens said he sells out before he even came up, he said he sells out before he even even had to talk about this show.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Okay, well, that's Gary Owens. I don't give a fuck. The rapper at night came out. Yo, I can't keep talking about other niggas. Yo, so what, nigga, I don't give a fuck. So what? Fuck them all. You sell your tickets away.
Starting point is 00:50:14 your tickets and I will sell my tickets the way I sell my tickets I like the next question I like the new fashion forward I mean this my fashion never been backwards nigga you don't want to need a stylist nigga do you have a look at the pictures of you do you ever look at the glasses on I like the fashion forward Donnell we appreciate you guys you're talking about you dress like August I've seen a boyfriend at the bottom school t-shirt at the top the fact that you have all these gay references just ready anything gay you got a whole speech about that shit
Starting point is 00:50:46 top bottom you don't even say pause and pause situations sir that's how free you are with yourself you would just let it go and you were only thing I got to know will unpause or pause do you think comedians are afraid to joke about sexuality because they're scared of how people will label them yeah 1,000% they are scared
Starting point is 00:51:02 to talk about that's why you are in touch with yourself that's why when people call you and it's me as fruity-tooty or booty band it's what y'all do it don't affect you because you're in touch with your sexuality Booty Tootty, Tootie, Rudy, Rudy, whatever it is. Do you think black men in comedy
Starting point is 00:51:18 get boxed into certain stereotypes about masculinity and sexuality more than others? 100. I believe 100%, 100%. But I also believe that you know, that people's way of thinking have evolved. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, black men, period,
Starting point is 00:51:35 are just for the most part, naturally homophobic. But now we live... That's not true. Don't generalize all black men like that. You just, gave me props for being in touch with my sexuality. So don't label all black men as being homophobic. You're not a regular nigga, though, son. What kind of a nigga is he?
Starting point is 00:51:52 He does his eyebrows. No, I don't. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. You definitely do. There's no way, I'm like, I don't believe that you just naturally wake up with your eyebrows. Don't get mad at me because you got to feel yours than everyone. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:04 But I just think, I just think, the way people think is totally different now. At some point, you got to be like, who gives a fuck? You just keep it moving. What's the wildest assumption people have ever made about you and your sexuality? And how did you handle it? I've never had no wild situations about my sexuality. That's a lie. Fuck bitches.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Somebody thought you. See, that's some shit of old car. You know, that's all right. Somebody thought you a gay before. I don't know who that could be. Where'd you find Javante? I've been known. That's not her name.
Starting point is 00:52:38 What I keep saying? Javanta. I'm sorry. Javanta. Like Javanza. I've been knowing her for, how long we've been on a show? 20-something?
Starting point is 00:52:46 Yeah, she was, she was working for this internet. What's popping? What was the name of that show? West Popping TV. Yeah, she was a host of it. She was very young. And how did we reconnect that to that?
Starting point is 00:53:01 At a, I was on a date and I got up on a date and studied my date and I got up on a date and studied she did that. Oh, you were on a date. Girl, come up here. comedy show and Donnell Rawlins heckled your date. Yeah, because he couldn't figure out how I was, he got me. Like, how am I doing it? Oh, so you was on a day.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You were a hater. You were trying to holl on a long. No, how did you do? And then Javanza got to talk to her, I would hope so. No. Oh, wow. I had a stand-up career. No, no, let me explain something.
Starting point is 00:53:32 No, listen. So she was a stripper? No. At first. No, it was not that. Oh, she is. Miss Elliot. Oh, girl, we're saying.
Starting point is 00:53:39 You got to be here. I'm sorry. Yo, wait a minute, why y'all was excitement for her, nigga? What? Why y'all? Donnell, can you sit on the couch for a second? Don't know. Don't, no.
Starting point is 00:53:50 No, sit down. Don't know. Don't know. Get her in a chair. Get her in a chair. Do you remember some of your moves? Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Let's give her own mic. Show me one move. Donnell, move over. What move do you want to? A Missy move, a Shakira move. No, you got to sit over there. Yes, Javanta. That's right.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Javanta. Roberts right okay okay so yeah back then thank you down now for joining us okay okay yeah no this is this is what I'm saying just the fuck up and let you van I met Patrick too back then I've known this is this is part of the collective giving people opportunities in pre no no no we called it to the microphone you didn't know you called it you I asked about her I asked about her story okay no but this is a great story you after it was heckling me at the at the at the I first of all wait no no no
Starting point is 00:54:40 No, no, no, let me say this. A lot of people don't argue with you. You can argue with you. Donnell. A lot of people don't know. Donnell. I wanted to say some. Let the black.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Okay, go ahead. Yes. I was saying part of the collective, like you said, of course, you invited her to the mic. I invited her to the show. That's how to collect. You got to go back and speak. You didn't even introduce her when she walked.
Starting point is 00:55:01 That's why you're bringing in. Because the reason why I didn't. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. A part of what people don't see about Donnell. Like, he's so altruistic.
Starting point is 00:55:11 He's so giving. No. He's giving. He's done so much behind the scenes. And we don't really get to see that part of him. So I appreciate so much over the last 15 years or so. I've learned so much about work ethic. He's like one of the hardest, hardest working comedians, I know.
Starting point is 00:55:33 No, you need to shut up and let her talk. She said you were an alter. He said he was what? Altruistic. That means showing a disinterest in. selfless concern for the well-being of others? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Maybe you're, unselfish.
Starting point is 00:55:45 No, he's unselfish. Oh, unselfish. Okay, okay, okay. He's giving, like, he'll get, he's selfless. He'll give the last, like, the last thread of, the last thing he owns to you. So what happened? You with your boo? Okay, so I was, yeah, I was on a date, and the date got nervous, because after he was heggling the date, I had mentioned that I wanted to do stand-up. So what did he say to the date?
Starting point is 00:56:08 He was like, you know, how did you, how did you get her? Like, how'd you end up with her? And he was like, oh, she wanted to do stand-up. So then Donnell brought me on the stage, but he didn't remember that I'd already interviewed him. So cut to, I got on a stage. I killed it, remember? I killed it.
Starting point is 00:56:22 No, no, I'm too, so. And then I would go, I was about 18, and I would go to Donald's house, and I'd take notes, and I was just, like, legitimately trying to be a stand-up. But I was also dancing with Miss I and Shakira, and that was, like, very demanding. So I couldn't balance the stand-up life
Starting point is 00:56:38 and my career as a choreographer. Can I see a move? No, here's his thing. You're dancing withy videos or on stage you are? On stage. I did the hip. I did, yeah, and he was actually there.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I was dancing with a dream too, and he was the warm-up. She was doing stand-up. She says, this is the story. She did stand-up, right? And I told her, I said, whatever you do, don't go up there, talk about being pretty or beautiful
Starting point is 00:57:04 or any of that. I said the reason why, I said, you look better than most of people. that come to the show, and women are so fucked up, they will hate you for that. Cut to, she did exactly what I told her not to do. Oh, God. How did it go?
Starting point is 00:57:18 Now, let me tell you. I got nervous. She said something. I was like this. Right, and then she came up to me at the end of the show. She was like this, she said, she said, this is the only second time I was saying, she said, what do you do when they're not laughing?
Starting point is 00:57:33 I said, if you are going to cry about this situation, should I advise you to quit stand up right now and that was the last show she ever did okay okay but that was great advice though it really was but I mean I like the the fact that she was curious about it and she did it and she tried she had a little notepad she was doing a thing but you know it's a certain like to for to have if you want to say some success and then all of a sudden it's different some people can't handle it and that's when you get strong when you go back and you challenge yourself Will this person, will she be on stage with you at the last,
Starting point is 00:58:07 scratch factory this weekend? No, she'll probably be hanging out. Yeah, but she's not just sitting there. I'm acting now. I'm on Beauty and Black on Netflix. And then I just put, hey, that's my show. I just booked the series regular, so that'll be coming on. Nice, congratulations.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Thank you. Thank you so much. But I'm gonna tell you, like, I've been knowing her for the longest time. One of my closest friends, I consider to be my daughter. Never seen her. Never seen her around? Yep. Anything.
Starting point is 00:58:34 When did this happen? If you look back into history of my podcast, she was one of my first co-hors. We've had a relationship. But the thing that I really appreciate about her, and everybody has ups and downs in their career, right? She's been through it. She has some highs and some lows.
Starting point is 00:58:48 But the thing I respect the most, she never stops. You know what I'm saying? Even when life is fucked up and life can be fucked up, she never stopped. That's why I said, I told her, I said, I'm going to be as supportive as possible.
Starting point is 00:58:59 You know, we went to the Caribbean of Caribbean Music Awards the other day. And it was something she really wanted. go. We went. We had a good time. But that is like my whole idea of what the collective is. Just if you're in a position where you could look out for somebody or throw somebody a bone or give him a platform and a shine, I think you're supposed to do it. And I think that's so. And you have a life outside of here. So although you never said anything, we didn't know about her. We know about her. We know about her now because she's with him. Yeah. No, Danielle in a long time.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Never seen her with him. He do be child. And how do you pronounce your name again? Javanta, Robert. Javanta. Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Why you had to emphasize, we appreciate you for joining us. She was great. She was phenomenal. She was. She has a lot of energy.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Thank you. Because Beauty and the Black is the show right now. It's the top show. I do have one more question for Mr. Ronald. At this stage in your career, do you feel like you've gotten everything you deserve or are you still fighting for your flowers? I'm not fighting for my flowers because whatever flowers is going to happen, it's already laid, it's already laid out. I'm not fighting for anything. I'm not fighting for any more fame.
Starting point is 01:00:04 any more fame or any of that I just like the path that I'm on I like the fact that I've been doing it over 30 some years I still can pull an audience I'm still funny you got some people that come and they go I'm still still standing I'm still one of the you know dopest comics out there you are yeah nobody really gave a fuck somebody well we appreciate you too Donnell thank you for joining us this morning he said your man said he give you his flowers that's my god and don't even mention him one time because we didn't we well I said we know what we do well don't know we do well don't know these beautiful sneakers that you gave us thank you close up on them we're gonna put them up there so
Starting point is 01:00:51 this is crazy look that's that's that's behind shoulder me like this is nuts look at this one Look at this one. Crazy. Oh, my God. You got your daughters on there. That's cute. That's not my daughters. That's me and Sholomey.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Oh, shit. Spread it. You know what? It's the breakfast club. It's Donald Rolins, ladies gentlemen. Thank you. Hold up. Every day I wake up.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Wake your ass up. The breakfast club. You're all finished or y'all done? This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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