The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: Cam'ron Talks Petty Moments, Pink Horse Power, Paid In Full, Peace Of Mind + More

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

Best of 2025- Best Interviews - Cam'ron Talks Petty Moments, Pink Horse Power, Paid In Full, Peace Of Mind . Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Every day I wake up The breakfast club You're all finished or y'all's done Morning everybody It's DJ Envy Just hilarious Salamaine Nagy We are the breakfast club

La Rosa is here as well We got a special guest in the building One of the most hustling motherfuckers I've met in my life Ladies and gentlemen Kill us camera on is here Good man, how y'all been Good morning everybody

How you're doing man Regular man Get to be back I ain't been up here in a little minute Before we go in a way I just got to ask one question Yeah. Are you going to do another project, man?

Because you play too much, you rap, and then you stop, then you spit, then you stop, then somebody pisses you off and you rap, and I'm like, Killer still got it. Just do a project, Killer. Like, for what? Because you're nice. You're good at it. Nah, of course, you know you're my brother. I appreciate that, but it don't be making financial sense.

Like, if I'm going to do a project, you're going to get merchandise behind it, it's going to be a tour behind it, everything else. But, you know, I do the freestyles on my show, and, here and there, but as far as doing an actual project, it don't be making financial sense for me. Like, you see niggas be rapping my age, it's only a few niggas who can really go on tour, who's

my age. Niggas be just thinking in their brain, they're doing a lot, but they're not really doing what they think they're doing. Because when you like, for me, I was on tour up until 2021 COVID hit, I was on tour. I just didn't go back on tour after that. But every tour I had something lined up

not just the show. It was shit behind you know what I'm saying can we curse yeah yeah it was shit behind it but I'll keep the free stuff far doing the album albums to be last thing like a great album is like two weeks you know what I'm saying like that shit I'm talking about a great one last two three weeks that shit's don't last but even like an EP just you and Mason that killer and murder just just going in look look me and age got some now I would do that me and makes got like 19 records wow but I can't put them out like I like I feel like my hands is tied with this he'll get in the mood and he'd be like we gonna come out then he'll be like nah just wait

and it don't come out I can play it for y'all with nobody listening like the world ain't listening but mace is really really nice what's his invitation I don't know I can't tell you all right like he's like he gets in the mood and we're gonna do shit and then he'd be like we're not gonna do shit and what we got going on now is too good to even question it you know what I'm saying so yeah the worst two slick talkers out there but on some g shit because y'all hear me do the freestyle shit mace is like dumb nights get busy not like no i'm talking about you know you ain't really rapping a long that niggis nice nice like a real real problem i want to say he's better than me i want to say that he's right underneath me pause right there

now we saw the one where he spit on it is what it is what it is i forced him dude i had to beg like too much for that to happen but but do you know what a problem is for me he sends me the shit while i tell him just stop sending me shit my nigg because i'm getting frustrated he do i think he do this shit to tease me to be honest with you Okay, I'm listening to this, listen to this, and this shit never comes out. But I think he does it for therapy. He makes too much other money besides what we do. Mace makes a lot of money.

I think, I don't want to say that, but music isn't a priority. I wish it's a priority. I saw you to Memphis Bleak that Mace told you that if you and Juel's the music or you and him even do anything that you put out, it has to be like a moment because of all that stuff? What would that moment, if y'all, hypothetically speaking, if it did happen, what would that moment be? Is it an offer for a big show?

If you can Mace, anything we do together, like Mace, like, if we get booked together, Mace don't move for less than $100,000 for him. And that's just being nice. Like, he just don't move. He'd do too much of a shit to where he's like, Kim, if I'm not getting 100, I don't even call him if it ain't, like, $200,000. Because he doesn't, he doesn't care. Like, he really doesn't.

Like, what he got going on, he doesn't care about doing anything else. So I'd be like, yo, Mace, listen. so-and-so want to book us for like 125,000. He's like, you want to take 25 and I'm like no, no, he's like scam, you have to realize there's a moment when we're together

we haven't been speaking for 25, for 10 years. Why would we take that money? I'm like, Mason, it's just a look. It's not a good look. So more the story is, he basically says we haven't been speaking for a while.

We're getting older. Everything that we need to do, to count. So kind of like when you heard me say that with Jewel's, same thing, Jewel's has sent me to a record, sent a record for me to do probably five, six months, maybe longer than that. And it was a good record, but it was like, y'all be spectacular, we didn't do a song in 15 years, so that's kind of what you heard. How did you and Mace get back together for people that don't know? Because there was, y'all were going back and forth for years and then-guillian Wallow. Yeah, absolutely. Shout to Gillian Wallow. He went on Gillian Wallow's show, to, I guess his artist was saying that Mace was stealing from him or whatever.

And when he was up there, he just was like, he basically, like, shuddered me on the cool way. He's like, because, you know, he did a disc record, and it was kind of, it was crazy, the Oracle, this and me. He said, I didn't really want to do that to camp. And I was like, but he said in the cool, he's like, Kams, my man. Then I went on Gillian Wallow, and then we talked, and then when we spoke, we spoke, and we just kept it moving. All because of Gileon Waller, basically. And how did the show come together from there?

So the show actually came together. We were supposed to do a tour after we got cool, me, him and Jada. That didn't work out. And so many people were inviting me to do podcasts. Like, yo, can't do a podcast? When are you going to do a podcast? And I'm like, I don't really want to talk to niggas for a living. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I don't want to have to talk to nobody. But I do like sports. So I look at the phone I'm arguing with niggins And the time I hang the phone up It's just like two and a half hours Of me arguing with a nigga about sports So I was like maybe this is something I want to do

And I built a state I've got to stay on stage I built my own set out And I said I'm going to do ESPN Meesterhood So that's why we wear suits on the show But it was a professional setting And then after that

I invited Mace on the show as a guest, and he's like, Ken, what's going on? And I'm saying, I'm just shooting this shit. I said, I got a budget. I'm going to reach this budget and see if niggas's bike calls. And he's like, you want to be partners? I'm like, after I get my money back on what I spent, we could go 50, 50. And he's like, I bet.

So we did about 10 shows and a bunch of people called. So we ended up doing like 30 shows and ended up getting a really good deal. But after I did like five shows, he's like my fifth guest. And he's like, be partners. because I have nobody consistent doing it anyway. So that's how I came together. I dig y'all smoking shit, man. I think everything that y'all have done in the media space,

what it is, what it is, and the talk was flea. I think y'all smoking shit. Nah, I appreciate that. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it, man. It's all natural. It's all fun. And kind of me and Mace's relationship is like just picking up

because the shit we be talking about just regular high school shit or shit after high school shit. You got to realize a lot of our public life was publicized, so Mace got his deal at 21. I got my deal at 21. So a lot of shit y'all seen music-wise has been since me 21 years old. And I also say, you know, if you, whatever. But thank you for that.

If what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough. I love the way that you've empowered somebody like treasure. You know what I'm saying? And I know you got to like a whole production team there. And she has like a network or something of her own where she can develop content. Well, she has her own show. It's called Check Out the Stat and whatever she wants to do, she's able to do. We don't hold anybody out.

We don't stop nobody from doing what they could do. what they want to do. She's big in the streaming world. You know, I'm not really twitching and all that. Like, she's big with Kassani and her boyfriend's a streamer and everything else. But she just turned 24 years old. So it's really dope to have a dynamic of her being on the show because we tease her about shit.

She don't know. And then she'll turn it back on us like y'all niggas don't know this shit. So it's good different generations being on the show. But definitely she has a bunch of shit that she has going on. But her show is called Check Out the Stat. In the moment with her, you and Adrian Brunner that went viral, we had a conversation about it up here. And when I watched the moment,

I was so appreciative of it and I'm not her. Just because I know what it's like to not be able to like kind of say things or whatever. When that went super viral, when people were reacting to it, how did you feel watching it? Because it was a natural thing for you to just do. I don't really watch the shows, to be honest with you. We do them shit five days a week and I keep it moving.

So I didn't really, I never watched it. But in the moment, you're asking? But in the moment, see, a lot of things, y'all didn't see, we don't go live, we pre-record. So I stopped the show like six, seven times and asked him to stop. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like just once.

It was like six, seven times because I know Adrian Bro and I have a relationship with him. So I kept asking him to stop. And he was like, oh, my bad bro, my bad bro. And he wouldn't stop. And her boyfriend was there too. So I was like, yo, bro, you got to chill. And he's like, now I can't my bad, my bad, and he wouldn't chill.

So basically, I just asked him to leave. You know, I didn't really want, some of the parts I wish where the guy edited to where when I came back and I was kind of frustrated and I said some shit about him afterwards, which I didn't want the air, but that was just pure frustration. But in the moment, that's like my little sister. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, if you keep doing that shit,

you're disrespected her. And then if I ask you to stop, you disrespecting me. So now you're really in my house and you disrespecting me. So I paid him for his time and asked him to leave. Like I said, it ain't like he's a stranger. I know who he is and we got some mutual friends as well. But in the moment, it was just disrespectful because it isn't like we asked you to stop several times.

And he apologized and people were mad at you because they was like, yo, I guess they caught you saying something. They're like, why even said to his face? That's what I was talking about. I mean, I was saying that because when I sat back down, I was like, I hate this thing. I don't really want to repeat what I said. And he was like, basically, yo, Candace, down and third.

Why did you say that? It was purely out of frustration. That's like saying, if y'all walk me out now, and then you sit down, you don't know. I didn't sit down for the edit. And then you'd be like, yo, this nigga. You know what I'm saying? I said a little more than that, but it's like,

that part should have been cut out. But it wasn't about saying nothing to his face. I said it to his face. I walked over to him and actually escorted him out. It wasn't about a fighting situation for me. And I was just more of a, I think he was a little intoxicated and he just needed to be escorted out. He held himself accountable with your power.

Yeah, he did. Yeah, smart guy. So any artists that comes up there that talks to your coach, you're gonna pay him out? The thing about it is, I'm not gonna, if Terrence Crawford's there, I'm not walking up on Terrence Crawford. But it's security there, it ain't just us in there.

It's other people that's outside the studio. So it isn't just randomly me just putting things out, but I feel me and him was cool enough for me to do that. Yeah. And I'm glad you bought that pin pink horsepower oh yeah yeah because I'm I can't order it discreetly I don't think I'm glad that you bought it up here no what is it I thought it was edible saying what is it she's talking to take one she could take one for a man

yeah I'm good time so basically um and they deliver too by the way so you call it oh you've been okay I mean you're gonna crazy yeah tell us that me that you did the pink horse power you talk about the honey pack back in the day wow honey pack give you a headache this don't get no headaches yeah this is all natural Can you be an ambassador? Yeah, it's all natural. It's from Africa. Is it from Africa?

I'm going to show... Big horses in Africa. I'm going to show you the video so you can see exactly where I went to get it. Because the thing about it is this. So they have this in the city, different places. But what happens is I know people in Senegal and it comes in on the boat. And what happens is when it's on the boat, they water it down. They double or double down.

So it's more when it gets here. And basically, I keep a nigga on a boat for two months. for two months to watch our stocks so that we make sure we have the highest potency of it, but it's all natural, leaves, roots, trees, and we just got the best product. It works, we've been doing this for four years.

Probably made close to $10 million on it. Wow. And it's been really, really good. My man, Sugar Digger basically runs everything right now with that shit, but it's been really well. And the thing about we have reoccurring customers, niggas coming back, I guarantee it. Like Frank Lucas said,

I guarantee it, nigga. Like, it's really going to work. But Jessica asks me how long? How long does it take to activate? I said 10 minutes. I said, I wouldn't go do that and go to the mall. Hang out with your mom. Nothing else to take that when it's time to go in.

It works really fast. It don't make your heartbeat crazy? Nah, everything's good. You see? I mean, no. Natural. You never said nothing. No, that's not a conversation we're going to have.

To be honest with you, I don't want to say too much because, but that has good health effect as well. Yeah, I mean, I say ginger, ginseng. turmeric, natural flavor. Wait to after, man. Please leave it up there. I know how y'all do. Everyone's going to grab mine right.

That's a shot. Don't work. Yeah. And take one per day because some some niggas. So drink the whole thing? Did that just leave me with one? Yeah, take one for the whole day.

You know, we got, shit. You said they deliver. You said they deliver, no. Order you something. Order you. Yeah, yeah. So it's like a shot. You take a shot.

Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you should have to John, you said. You got a whole. That's why I got six kids.

Kim, what conversations were you having where you were like, you know what? Because this is what I'm bringing next with the Pink Horsepower. Like, who was your market study? For this situation, the pandemic. That's when I saw it.

Like I said, it was on tour. Nobody was doing shit but fucking at home. And like I said, I knew somebody from Senegal who actually brings it in and he was giving me something and he's like, Cam, this is warded down. If you want the highest potency,

we could go to Senegal. And I'm like, you serious? And I'm like, so I took the trip. And I've seen how niggas is manipulating it on the boat and how, because it's a lot of places who say, I got the shadow, they be like, I got cam, shit, we got the same shit. No, you don't. You are getting it from the niggas that's watering it down,

bringing it over here, and we're getting the highest potency possible. Let me ask you, because what was your favorite viral news network moment? Was it the 60 Minutes joint? Was it the Bill O'Reilly or the CNN drinking pink horsepower? power. CNN. CNN by far

because first of all like Bill O'Reilly I didn't know who Bill O'Reilly was like I remember being a Rockefeller

and they was like Kim do you want to go Bill O'Reilly he's like big he's on Fox y'all y'all I don't I bet

he's like but he's telling you can he's like one of these niggas this you don't

I'm telling you don't know he's going come at you pause I'm like good let's figure it

out so I had no idea who Bill O'Reilly was. I just went up there and just debated the nigger like, fuck it. I don't give a fuck. 60 minutes, I was mad high. I ain't going to lie. I was super duper high on 60 minutes. I was wow high. And, um, pardon me. Um, that was cool. But the CNN shit that just passed, they kept calling me and I'm like, yo, I'm cool. And they was like, yo, it's going to be a puff shit. And I'm like, puff questions and all. that I'm like, no, I don't want to do it.

Then they say, well, we'll talk about other things. So I was like, bet. Can we pre-record it? I'm like, absolutely not. It has to be done live. So in case y'all try a nigg on what y'all said, I'm going to expose the situation because I told you, I don't want to be up here answering a bunch of puff questions.

And when we got up there, I said, I do one or two, but you kept forcing the issue. I bet, let's do it. Pink Horse Power commercial, the whole shit. So that's how that went. But that was my favorite one out of all over. I know sales was crazy for Pink Horse Power. Crazy.

And to be honest with you, that's kind of how to be honest how it kind of catapulted because sugar's running around, you know, going hand-to-hand. But Gilly Show, sales went up 400%. Then I did. Now, pardon me, Norrie Show. When I did Drink Champs first, it went crazy. Then I did Gilly Show. And it went crazy.

And that was another reason I started a podcast. I'm like, I could shoot a commercial for this every day on my own shit. Matter of fact, should get some more backup here. so hopefully the sales will be a little better after doing you guys show man now I tell everybody Cam is one of the pettiest people I know right yeah I said between Cam and 50 they are the two pettiest people I've ever seen in my life trying to do better though

no you're not what happened with Omar Good and so you're trying to do better after that oh my sure see niggins don't mean on the back story so like right oh more good and pardon me again Omar Gooden, I was on my show talking about B-list actors, black actors, no disrespect to him. But we all know his brother, Cuba, is the biggest star. And basically, I said Omar Gooding, Jr. And he went off, he went crazy.

And because I hired him before, for a movie I did, like, 2011, 2012 percentage. I did a movie with Queen Latif and Shaq Kim. Shout to Queen Latifah and Shaq Kim. And we hired him. So in my segment, in my show, I'm like, yo, it's fucked up for the B-class black actor because you got to sit here and wait for somebody to call you for a part.

Or if they do, who says you're going to get the part? Like, just sitting around and waiting. And I was actually talking to Rich Paul, and he's like, them niggins should have came up with a network by now all came together. You know what I'm saying? But I basically was telling y'all, telling him, saying what I'm telling y'all now.

Right. And I called him Omar Gooding Jr. And he just went crazy. He was like, how to fucking my junior when Cuba's the junior, you're disrespecting. You don't call a man out his name this down the third. So I'm like, I got him on this page.

I said, you go look at the dates. I said, my bad, bro. I didn't mean to offend you, no, no problem. Now, fuck that. Then he started doing dish records. And I was like, his rapid wasn't bad, though. His rap wasn't that bad. It was all right.

I put it on the page. I wrote that shit on his comments. I'm like, yo, I don't want no smoke, bro. This is a hype. This is dope. So did another one. I'm like, I bet. So I know how much you cost, bro.

You know what I'm saying? So I had a mutual friend. I was like, yo, when you, I haven't used him pause in a while. How much you, you cook, booking for you? Like, when I need a movie scene, I'll pay him $1,200. So I got $3,000 for the nigger. And that's how that I went, because he wouldn't stop doing records.

And I already said I didn't want a problem. So you said I'm going to come up with a fake movie. Yeah. Fake script. So you have to pay to Patty. to do this. Yeah, but what happened is he signed a paperwork. And so let's just say I paid every three,

I gave him $3,000 because I knew he wouldn't say no, because he gets $1,200. So I said $3,000. His flight was, what, $7,800. And so let's just say I spent $5,000. So once he signed a paperwork, I'm getting 10 times that for the episode. So I win.

I spent five, but I made $45 off a, gotcha off of his stupidity for me telling you i don't want no problem with you but you won't stop so now i'm gonna give you five and make 45 and this content at the same time so you was really in the other room watching and directing i wasn't in another room but i had a ring camera up around the corner at one of my cribs watching the whole shit the whole time and he was trying to say that he was going to take legal action is that possible or like because what documents did you have him signed or like whatever i had them so basically my man who actually they shot my man b be one of my production companies, partners of one of my production companies, we basically had

them sign everything. And what he was trying to say is going to take legal action about everything was cool, but the dressing room, but he didn't realize what he signed was once you walk in, we can use security footage, ring footage, everything that we wanted to use once you walked in the building, any camera we wanted to use. And what I did was he had, we getting $1,500 up front. and when he came, I made sure the other 1,500 was in tens and five, so it looked like he got a lot of money.

So when he gave him, we gave him the night, I knew he was just signed anything. Because, you know, when it looked for us, when it looked like it's a lot. So we paid him like tens and five, so it looked like he had $20,000 when it was just $1,500. I don't know why you waited so long to do the killer comedy show, and I don't know why you're not on stage your damn self.

I just don't be bothering people and then I'll be like, yo, leave me alone because I know where I could go with it and this is what happens, basically. But yeah, thanks for even bringing that up. We got the killer comedy show. It's today? It's tonight.

At the Beacon Theater. At the Beacon Theater. Sean, my man Johnny Shipes in the building. He's the one to put everything together. D. Ray's going to be there. Jay Fowle's going to be there, Tony Rock. Cory Holcomb. Sorry, I don't know if y'all still be.

you all. I got done to do it. Will Mills and Ray Ray, so. Jay Farrow, too. Yeah, yeah. We said John Farrow. Yeah. Yeah, so. And Ferg performing. Ferg is performing as well, definitely. Y'all are all welcome to come. I don't know what you guys are doing, but you're more than welcome to come. But we actually put that together because I did a, I got a cameo in a movie, Happy Gilmore, too.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. How did that come about? So, yeah, Joe Vesci, he's a comedian and writes with Adamson. He's a big fan. He's the one of the kind of guy that's in the movie. I don't say it was my man, too. And he has a stand-up, and he wants me to put it out. I guess he's not going through the right channels.

And I'm like, Johnny, like I said, we're going to put that out. But he was like, let's just do a whole fucking comedy show. We got our out back. They sponsored it. And that's how I'm going. So we're going to go and tour with it. That's that easy. But shout to Joe Vesey for even giving me the idea to want to do it.

Oh, salute to Joe. That's my man. What made you want to get into comedy now, though? because you always been funny, right? Always. I'm beyond, it was Joe Gussie. I'm not even going to say, hold you. When he said he had to, so he has a stand-up that's done.

And he just went to put it into my lap and say, Cam, do what you could do with it. And I'm like, he's not on this show because paperwork kind of took a while, but it was purely when he had a stand-up. And I'm like, I'm going to find a home for it, but why not put a show together after that? That's really totally Joe Gussi that gave me the idea to put a comedy show together.

You know, you know, because you know his dad, Peter Vether. You're one of the best sports commentators ever. Hey, Joe Vess. He's like a street basketball playing and all that shit too, man. So shout to him. That's why I came about. No more, no less, man. I got to ask, where did the friction with you and Dame come from? How did that happen?

I don't know. This, like, Dame, like... He was a manager or partner with you at one time, right? Dame, like, Dame did a lot for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, today's is going to be my last day, Dame Dashing. Us too. Us too. Yeah, because it's annoying. You know what I'm saying? So to be honest with you,

pardon me, to be honest with you, I feel like I got set up. It felt like Dame had all these problems with me and never said it and was looking like a reason to say it. I was in a terrible deal of Epic Records. I grew up with Dame and Rockefeller was up and he helped me get out that deal and then actually signed me to Rockefeller

that helped me get my group on Rockefeller, put out a platinum album the diplomats was born. It was great, and he did a lot for me. So I always attribute that. Not only I knew niggas since I was like 10, 11 years old, you know what I'm saying? And when Rockefeller fell apart, he's still my man.

He's my man last year. I don't know what I'm saying. He's been my man this whole time. But to me, it's like a setup because no matter what, so publicly I've been giving this man props for 25 years. and it hasn't been a smooth 25 years but that's always been my friend I've never ran to the internet and talked about you

whether we're having good time, bad time, whatever but I do do over the years just take breaks from me when I say that it's like I can call him Dane for a minute I call him next year this and the third and when he started talking about me on different on different podcasts I'm like bro what the fuck is this about

but he was guessing he was saying Kim is not a man he ain't calling me this time, yo, bro, everybody's not built for your personality. I am. I just know how to take breaks from you from time to time because I know your personality. Now I want to deal with it right now. But for him to go to the internet, start talking about me, it was like, really? This is what the fuck we're doing?

And when I seen that, I was like, this is crazy. He kept doing it, kept doing different interview. Yo, cam this, cam this. And I'm like, and then he talked about, the last thing was he said, and I didn't promote nothing we were supposed to go partners on with HonorUp, the movie, and we did an album with A-Track,

and he said I didn't promote it. And I finally gave feedback on why I didn't promote it. I'm like, I didn't want to be in it. You know what I'm saying? No disrespect, but that's how it happened. From there, Avalanche. He's just been crazy. Start going to create, Kim, there's Kim, that Kim.

It's a even point where it's like, bro, now you're stretching the truthy line about a few things. But that's where it all started from. For me, this and honor up. But to me, if you wanted just my art or my movies or my music or whatever, cool, you start getting personal. And so I started taking mad personal shit. And I'm like, we know too much about each other

to be doing personal shit because this shit could get nasty because I know a lot about you, you know a lot about me. And I'm mad funny. Like, I don't want a rag doll, nigger, my man on the internet, especially like, let's have not talking about. but who the fuck is you around to come out with a patch and teeth?

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would never let you do that because you're my man. I texted them, I'm like, yo, bro, whoever you're around, they, you're not around no real niggas because they would not let you come on the camera like that. And that's kind of how I started when I disarmor, when the shit just got personal.

And it was to the point where I'm like, yo, listen, man, this could get nasty. And I spoke to, Daniel. I know Daniel was up here with him. Daniel cool with me too. And so he kind of mediated it and he was like, yo, this shit is down a good look for Harlem, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. I was like, cool. I said, listen, it was a Thursday. He said, look, I said, listen, I got something coming out tomorrow. It's already done. If you tell him, listen, this is coming out tomorrow, but I won't say nothing else about him on the internet. Cool. He says cool. He said cool. He said cool. He's cool. still talking about me on the internet yesterday. Right now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Cam Capone's on part 15, 17 right now. Exactly. And it was like, bro, you, I thought we weren't going to talk about each other. Cool, that ain't no problem. But to me, to be honest with you, I was tapped out when the nigger issued a $300 million lawsuit. And then he tells Daniel to tell me, you'll tell Kim to give me a million dollars and we might let it all go away.

I'm like, you're trying to quiet it. distort me. Like, what are you talking about? Send you a million off the $300 million. I said, let's go to court. It's not a real lawsuit. It was Chad GPT. I know that. The sign from the dash group, we got one of those two. Yeah, no, but the fact that the lawsuit, we got to... The fact of the

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm not sending you a million dollars. Well, I'm glad he didn't take your show off a revolt, because he could, like, he was your boss. Yeah, he was your boss. He didn't take your phone for a vote. That's the point. like the shit the shit that

nigger be talking about to me this like to me it's semi-disappointing because I looked up to him you know what I'm saying and I'm just a point where I don't wish them wealth, health and success but I can't know more because like you said in the Ken Capone or that shit you're at a point where you said as long as your name say in the algorithm

even if it takes beefing with your man to be in the algorithm that's where you're at in life and I'm like I see why niggas be curving you got to think about this not just artists if you sit there and think about the artists that he helped and put on, it's phenomenal, you sit there, anything about Kevin Hart or Jay-Z

and Kanye or myself or whoever, and nobody fuck with you. Is it the artist or is it too? You know what I'm saying? Not only that, the day one niggas don't fuck with you. Daniel, I'm not saying Daniel and his man, but like, Real Mac, all the niggins are bigs.

Like, niggas from your hood don't fuck with you. So I don't mean this in the bad way because I know you're going to take this and this will be like I asked another three, four months for him. You know, he'll take a spin it, this kid, da, da, da. And then I'd be seeing, like, to me, bro, you try to defame my character to where it's like, for what, my nigga?

Kim's a civilian. All right, Dane, whatever, I'm a civilian. We tried to give you a million dollars last year when you was in the news for, oh, and $800,000. Mason and Dane don't even got a good relationship. They don't even fuck with each other, but Mace felt bad. And he's like, Kim, you're spending $400,000, $400,000? Just so we, this nigga don't got no debt?

I'm like, I don't know. I'll do it, but I don't really know if we're going to make our money back, but for the sake of dame, yeah, I'll do it. And then when the shit didn't go through, we suckers. Because you want to wait on a young boy NBA or Drake or whatever deal you had. We try to give you a million dollars

just to clear your debt up. And you basically gamble yourself out waiting on more money. We got two questions. Did you call his son to do? Remember he was saying that you called his son? So basically, y'all probably be lost. with all this shit that he'd be on on.

So he bought it up here. He bought it up a couple times when he's up here. He's like, Kim is running around with this nigger named Larry. And y'all probably don't even know. I have no idea of Larry. Yeah, exactly. So, do you even remember him saying that? I do remember him he bring up Larry.

He kept bringing up Larry. He kept bringing up Larry. So let me give you a backstory on Larry. Larry had to grow in Vegas where he was meeting a bunch of rappers and everything, paying everybody to promote his grow in Vegas. Dane met Norey, pardon me. Norrie introduced Dane to Larry. Like, Norrie knew Larry first, and he introduced Dane.

Larry was paying Dane $5,000 a month to promote his weed. Dame ain't snoot dog or Wiz Khalifa to be like, but he's still giving a nigga to bread, like, I hear. Supposed to give him 3% of coming. I don't really know about that part. or whatever. But anyway, not only that,

Larry's paying you to promote his weed. Larry lives in Vegas. Not only that, your son live with Larry as a grown man. So Boogie, his son,

lived with Larry for two and a half years because he wasn't fucking with Dane. You know what I'm saying? Or they didn't have a good relationship. I don't want to say he wasn't fucking with him.

They didn't have a great relationship. He's sitting there as like, can be with Larry now, can be with Larry now. Larry puts up for a movie. Dame heard up $50,000 or supposed to put $50,000 for a movie

and another nigga put up $50 for a movie. Movie's supposed to be $150,000. Dame tells Larry when this lady calls allocate the money to her. So she may want $12,000 now, $6,000 now, $7,000 now, whatever. When it gets to the $50,000,

he calls Dame and says, yo, I gave the lady the $50,000. Dame goes off and $1,000. you dumbass nigga, you're a Vegas Bama so I calling this nigga a bunch of names talking about I didn't tell you to give I didn't, Jesus, this nigga's crazy

yeah, I didn't tell you to give her $50,000 he's like, I don't know this lady, how did I get a number yada yada yada yada Larry hangs up on him calls me, said Cam I've been dealing with Daniel I deal with his insults like this is the last straw

I'm paying this man this promote the weed I gave him 50,000 for a movie etc. I just can't I'm tapped out. Dame calls me after we're not fucking with Larry. I said, why not? He said, he hung up on me. That's not what real men do.

Real men don't hang up on, niggas. How many times me and you argue, you never hung the phone up on me to send? I say, dame, I know you. Everybody's not built for your verbal assassination or whatever the fuck you want to call your verbal assault. Everybody can't take that, you know what I'm saying? Verbal fair one.

Yeah, there you go. You did a good job. You did a good job. So he's going crazy on me hanging out with life because I feel Larry didn't do nothing wrong. That man looked like your son lived with him. He was paying you to do weed. He put up $50,000 for a movie.

And because he hung up on you because you started insulting him about $50,000 where he allocated it to where you want to be allocated it to, he's a Vegas bama. I can't jack that, bro. I'm not, he's a good nigga. He's a nigga. When we get to, when we, I stay in Vegas now.

Before we's coming, big time gambler, we have to pay for no hotels, comps at every hotel. I take my, my sprinter. We didn't have to pay for shit when we went to Vegas. And because he hung up on him,

now he's not a real man, but he's trying to spin the narrative. Remember, I was telling you three people doing the movie. The third person is suing Dane for the movie. Kim is hanging out with a nigga who's suing me. I don't know this nigga who's suing you. I know, Larry's not suing you.

He's just taking the L on the 50,000. You know what I'm saying? He's like, yo, I'll take the L. But Dane's going around, Kim, running around with a nigga who's suing me. I'm not running around with the niggins suing you. Larry's not even suing you, but that's the narrative that he's pushing.

So when he's talking about something to me doing something to the son, his son called, so Larry's a producer on Talk with Fleet on my show. Boogie, Dame's son, call Larry asking for money. recently asking for money so like like yo you want to get boogie on the show I'm like I don't give a fuck

he's like you're going to give him 5,000 I said all right cool you interviewing him you were syncing interview him I don't get a fuck I text boogie

for the producer for our writers what do you want to talk about on the show he says his music and his movies I have to text my shit

I said cool I give it to the writers two days later I'm trying to do shit with my son that niggas da da da da da da how you gonna reach out to

my son, your son reached out to Larry and said he was fucked up. Larry asked the nigga, do he want to come on the show? He said, yeah, he took the deposit. He didn't send the deposit back. But now you're spending it again to where you're fucking with my family. You know, my nigga.

Nobody calls his son. Your son called Larry. Larry asked him if he wanted to come on the show. And that's the name Larry that you keep hearing. So it's just basically... What's up, Larry? What up, Larry? What up, Larry?

Yeah, so now y'all know. the back story. Daddy name is Larry. Right, and the thing is for me, the last thing I will say about this situation with Larry anyways concerned. Larry's white, my mom died of cancer two and a half years ago.

I watched her dog. Thank you, I appreciate it. I watched her die for a month. She was good January 8th, went to hospital to January 9th stage, oh, your mom got about a month and a half to live. Jesus. So she died.

He's on this show talking about, Oh, Larry need to just be worrying about his wife. Larry wife died four days after Dane was on the show. No, man. I was watching his wife die with the nigger. Like, she was in hospice. She was at hospice. And she didn't want to die in the hospital.

She went home. And so, with hospice, so she could die home. So Dame is on the show. Like, yeah, and this nigga, Larry don't need to worry. He just need to worry about his wife. This is a nice guy. This thing ain't in the oldest shit I'm into. I'm with all this dumb shit.

This is a cool nigger. You know what I'm saying? You up there telling this man, right, I'm literally watching her die every day. So I'm like, yo, bro, you really don't got no boundaries. You dismal at Larry for what? That nigga watched your son for two years and made sure that nigga got a roof over his head.

And now you mad because he's not in a lawsuit. He paid you $5,000 a month. And then you put his business out there. Who the fuck said that the nigga won his business out there about his dying wife? That's why old your dad told him chill out. Did he? Yeah.

Because you know why? Daniel wife died from cancer. He watched his wife die on a deathbed from cancer. So he kind of get it. But at the end of the day, fuck is you talking about, yo, you need to go watch your wife and you don't understand what that scenario is about.

And that's what I'm like, I wish you the best, my nigga, but you don't really care because she died four or five days after the interview. That's horrible. Yeah. That's just a backstory on that. There's only two questions I had about the day's situation.

I wasn't even going to bring it up. I don't give a fuck. But like I said, it's done for me today. You can fight by yourself. I'm not fighting with you. When you talk about him bringing up family, I didn't understand why he bought up you having a stripper pole

and a house your mother was in, but he was in there partying, having a good time. Did he tell you that he had a problem with that back then? No, first of all, it was a two-family home. My mother wasn't on the side with the stripper, just to give some context of what's going on. I bought my mom my house when I first got on. She never wanted to move in the house.

She's Harlem. You get what I'm saying? So that wasn't my primary house. I had a few houses, still do. And she had a stroke, and she was like, she's not moving to Jersey no matter what. I'm like, Mom, you can't run around Harlem like this. But that's a New York thing.

Most, my parents are never living in Queens. Right. Never. Right. So example is basically when she never moved into the house, it's a two-family home. I built my studio in there, I had a strip club in there, all that.

So I'm like, Mom, the house is still there. I'm going to put you on the other side house. It's a separate address. It's not even the same address. So my mom is hood. She didn't give her fuck. You know what I'm saying? But you're acting like I had her in the bedroom next to a strip of cold.

It's a fucking other house around the corner. But no, he didn't have a problem with it. He loved it. But that's what I'm trying to tell you. He's trying to defame my character. For what reason? I have no reason why. I have no reason why.

I saw people react into that in the comment. I talked about just how low that was, regardless of what he was trying to do. Because I think everybody knows how you were about your mom and what you went through. Right, absolutely. Well, you know what it is, is that, and people might not have seen that part because I ain't posted. And he still shouldn't have said it. But he felt the way because when he said that shit about Larry wife, I was on his comments talking about he ain't one of his kids that he found out. Like, he had not buggy, he found out he had another kid and he took like eight paternity tests.

trying not to find one to making our beers so he got you all them niggins on play fair god damn I don't know

that's what I told you yeah but you know I'm gonna be honest about it yeah but and he was mad about it so I was putting all that in the comments and that's when he did the shit about

yeah so I like I said it was low I was low but that was low what he did but I get why he did it you know what I'm saying

because I would start spilling a lot of business that's why I said that shit could get messy. Shit about this girl. I was in the comments. We see. I was all in there like,

bro, I know too much. I don't really want to do it. It's more shit. Man, I just won't say. You know what I'm saying? Another thing we seen in the revival was the Big El thing.

Yeah. Like, bro, Big Al didn't even like you, my nigga. Big Al's from my block, right? And Big old brother's, brother, he had a couple of brothers, but his brother,

Big Lee kind of ran my block, him and somebody else, a couple of other people. and they hated Dame they hated Dame to the point where when Big Lee came home that's Big El brother he ran down on Dame and menacing

like you owe me a favor and Dame I told him he's like yeah I'm gonna do the favor for him I'm like yo this is polite distortion I wouldn't do the favor he ended up dying Big Al's brother Big Lee but he did not fuck with you and to the point where you're even lying

that me you and Big Al was in a car somewhere is just stupid like you know what I'm saying? Why did he lie? so much. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. And you know what I'm saying? It's to the point where it's like, bro, when that nigger said whatever I need to do to stay in the algorithm, you just knew it was over from there. Yeah, like my man sent me a clip to where it's like, yo, you know, not saying me and Jim don't have the best relationship now and I wish him the best

as well, but it's to the point where he's like, yeah, I ain't going to lie. Jim wore a ping first. You know, you said that three days. or two days ago, I'm like, what is that? I have to do with anything here you got going on, bro. This is what I'm trying to say. He's trying to throw me under the bus as much as he can to the point where you'll say and do anything, what I'm taking from it.

And I'm just not with it no more. Another thing I didn't understand, when he said you went on the radio to announce you was VP of Rockefeller. He said you did that on purpose. He thinks you did that on purpose because you knew it would cause problems at the label. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I thought I remember you being on the air and you was on the phone. I thought you was on the phone with Dame, and you said Dame gave us the greenlight. To announce it, yeah. That's what I remember. I don't remember exactly how happened. I ain't gonna say a lot of you,

but you ain't have a problem with it all these years. Now all of a sudden, you got a problem with it. Like, my nigga, I understand it may of course friction later, but why the fuck would I wanna damage some shit that's going good? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's probably the height of my music career at that particular sign.

Why the fuck would I wanna damage that? Like I'm saying, all the shit that he's saying now, It sounded like he had shit building up, and now he's throwing lies mixed in with it. But you didn't make that up, though. Somebody told you that you was going to be... No, he actually told me that. What he's trying to say is that I jumped the gun

and said it publicly when I shouldn't have set it publicly. That's what he's trying to say. But there's no way in the world you didn't tell me that. And what happened was I went to my lawyers to try and negotiate the deal, and I think I don't remember. I think I wanted $750,000. And it was like, no, we was just going to make you the president.

And I'm like, no, fuck it. And then when Jay Z must have came back from vacation according to Bleak, because I shout out to Bleak, I did Bleak show. Rock Solid. Yeah, and he was just basically like, Jay ain't liked that shit. So that's kind of how that went. But, no, it's no way I was making that up. That's exactly what you told me.

He told me he wanted to make me and beans, vice president, president, whichever way it went. I tried to negotiate the deal. The money wasn't right. And obviously, Jay Z didn't approve it. But how can he call you out on that and then come up here and said he the chairman of Revolt and nobody even told him that he was the chairman

he made that up. I'm just so glad he didn't take Cam Shaw. That's how I was a mess up. The Rovote had to be crazy after that because they were probably trying to figure out what's going on. So this is what happened actually. When all this shit was going on and this Dead Series 2

before it happened, Revolte hit me and was like do you mind if we work with Dame and I'm like, because all the shit, shit was going on and I'm like I don't really care like it wouldn't be till 2026 because you know programming wise the slots are filled so I have two shows that I can put out starting this month that I want to put out when that when Daniel called me I say yo no not Daniel I put it on on Instagram I told Daniel about it but I put on Instagram I had two slots left I said

Revolt might want to work with you but it ain't going to be till next year year. But if you want, the opportunity you gave me, I'll give to you. When I got a need to get off Epic Records, you gave me a chance to do music and you executive producer albums. I said, let me give you the same opportunity and let me execute you to produce your TV shows. You ain't got to wait until next year. And you was going to give revolt all your content for free. That's how bad he wanted it. And I said, yo, I'll even pay you.

Shout to Big Fendi. That was the middleman for that. So I said, tell Dame this before I put it on Instagram and Fendi was like yo the beginning of the conversation was cool he was like I bet he said but before I hang up he's like now fuck that the guy ain't producing my shows he can't do that

no no no he can't do that it's ego you was ready to do it for free and because you want me to I can't because I want to executive produce the shows fuck that I don't get it you're going to do it for free now you can do it and I can exactly produce it and give you a check

It's just, it was ego. So then that's when he went on to announce he was the chairman, and I've never seen a nigger forced his way to try and be somewhere where niggas don't want him in my life. The shit was wild. Yo, pay the full, right? What stage of production or development

is it in right now, the series? Right now, 50s feel it, still trying to finish up some stuff in Shreveport because I believe he wants to do a lot of stuff in Shreveport, but it's probably not going even be to the point to where we do casting, maybe not till April or May or something like that. I think he wanted to just make the announcement,

get the buzz going, because he's shooting like three TV shows, 1,800 movies, that nigger works. And he does shows in between. But if I had to guess a timeline, I would say probably April or May for casting, but I think it's some loose sense he wanted to get tighter in Streetport. Why did you do more?

Hold up, because I want to audition, Don't do me like, oh, my, nigga. Like, I really want to, I really want to audition. No, no problem. You can send you a deposit. But I have to get time, you know, for a right. No, no, no. I mean, when it's time, I'll definitely let you know.

But that's what I was telling the nigger, Fifth, when we were speaking, I said, yo, you put this announcement. I know he said he's gonna do it, but you gotta give me some more information because now everybody's hitting me. And, like I said, not in a good way, not in a bad way, but it's just like, I want, when you ask these questions,

I want to have the correct answers. And I was teasing. I said, yo, you see I announced out of the vice president of Rockefeller and shit when left. I don't want to be saying the wrong shit too early and shit. But definitely I'll let you know, but I don't want to give saying and even announced on this show a date. I'm just guessing right now. If I had to guess, probably April or May last because we talked two weeks about it. So does 50 have the rights to tell the story?

Like, is that, like, what's that conversation? So basically, he has the rights to pay them full. I guess it was up and he bought the actual rights to it but he's going to slow the movie down to where you get Alpo when he goes to D.C. You know what I'm saying?

You get more of the preacher of the one who actually kidnaps Rich's nephew. You get his story. You know what I'm saying? You get Dementio. I know if y'all even know about Dementia. You know what I'm saying?

That's one of the people Alpo killed over a girl. You get all these different stories that kind of was sped up in the movie when you slow it down throughout the series. Gotcha. Yeah. When you think about Legacy, Cam, your legacy in particular, when you think about Legacy versus Peace of Mind,

which one do you value more at this stage of your life? Peace of mind. Peace of mind is everything, big. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, for me to still be doing what I'm doing at this age, and even Envy knows, like, he's been doing what he's doing a long time, for us to still be relevant. having fun and still coming up to shit,

like to do shit like this. You know what I'm saying? People want to come up here and do this. You know what I'm saying? But for me, it's more like I get to fucking, I love sports. I get to talk about sports all fucking day. Watch sports all day and talk about it for an hour.

And me and Mace made tens, I don't want to give a number, we made tens of millions dollars in the last two years. And then to jump off, a bow of um pillow off that and then do talk with flea and make a few million dollars like you know that's where i'm at like where i could do build multi-million dollar companies or brands and don't and be me i don't want to have to do some shit i don't want to do at this point in life so when you think of pink horsepower you think a multi-million dollar company or talk with flea

multi-million dollar brand or it is what it is a more time million dollar company i just love doing this Now, don't get me wrong, I'm naming these shits like a hundred other things didn't work. You know what I'm saying? Like, people don't see the shit that don't work. So, 100 things that don't work. But just to figure it out at this age, like, if something be 50 next year, I'll be, it's just. But you figured it out early. Like, you, you figured out peace of mind early on.

Oh, yeah, peace of mind, absolutely. I get away from niggas. Because when people wanted you, it was like, where's camera? I don't know. He bought a crib in Florida. He's killing. He's not doing nothing. Yeah, because you got to think about this, right?

when you see and I'm asking y'all this is a question i'm asking you know when you see somebody and like i said i don't want to bring it up but i hate keep repeating them like i said it's the last day when you see the person like dame do you look happy to you no no no that's what i'm saying like happiness matters to me me too happiness and being able to pay my bills and all this other stuff and you see when sometime when you bring my name up to certain niggas you just get mad they're emotional and they be like i'd be like yo this thing's angry This nigga's really mad. I need, I don't want to be happy.

I want to be laughing. Like, when you see me and Mace on the show, we be dead-ass laughing to where we edit some of that shit out because we laughing that much. Like, that shit is cool. To make money, laugh and go home and have a peace of mind, that means more to me than anything else where, especially at this stage in life.

What the fuck are we beefing and arguing about? Especially if you're making a couple dollars. And then you don't want to be beefing with the niggas you grew up with who and not at this age of life. If you don't have to be around niggas, but at the end of the day, what the fuck? How long do you think it's supposed to be arguing with each other? You know what I'm saying?

Or just in general, arguing with anybody. I think a lot of people in hip-hop struggle to transition into new chapters of life. So I'm like, when I'm like, I'm like, I want to ask, how did you find peace and purpose outside of hip-hop? Is it the other business business? Yeah, because, listen, man, I talk about that shit and think about that show all the time.

I'm like, yo, and no disrespect to nobody out there. I'm just like, yo, oh, I hate to have to be in a club for $3,200 tonight. 59 years old, my nigger. Yo, that's what I'm saying. Like, yo, that shit would kill me. Like, yo, but some people, you got to realize, think about this, right? Let's just use a better number. Let's use $5,000, $7,500.

I'm like, yo, I don't want to be in there, nobody's club, then I don't want to be in for $70,500. it. But if you do that every week and you're this age, you do it three times, you're sitting there saying, you know, I make $20,000 a month. That ain't bad. You know what I'm saying? That's not bad. Like, yo, fucking, nigga, I made $20,000 a month. And I'm 49 years old. And this is great because you have a regular job and some people don't make that. I don't think that's a bad living at all. I'm just saying, that isn't where I want to be able. You know what I'm saying? So, definitely peace of mind.

And also, too, with Harlem, man. Yo, Harlem, people talk about Harlem like it's Harvard. Like, what does Harlem mean to you today compared to when you were, like, 18? It ain't the same for me. You know what I'm saying? Not at all. That's a great question, because it's so gentrified.

It's just not the same. And I may say I'm ignorant for saying it, but I miss the abandoned buildings. I miss the vacant lots and going up, driving, you know, walking the school and almost stepping on glass. And I'm saying that's good and you shouldn't improve from that. But that's just my memory of Harlem. Like when I see Red Lobster on 125th, you know, like, an H&M, I'll be like, this is crazy.

You know what I'm saying? But it's gentrified. And, you know, to me, everything. But you all think about this too, right? Where I live is gentrified. Nick's like, what this nigga doing over here? You know what I'm saying? So you might got somebody white, like, yeah, what the fuck?

Remember when it was all white over here? You know what I'm saying? So it's a balance. But just for me, Harlem isn't what it used to be. I'm not saying Harlem still ain't Harlem today, but just not the Harlem I grew up with. My man, I sometimes shoot videos in this building and shit like that. And he's like, Kim, we all talk to the building manager.

I'm like, all right, who is it? And the dude's white. It's like, yo, I thought you was the manager. He's like, no, I sold my apartment to the nigger. And now he's the manager. So now I've got to talk to somebody white and go into a building that I've been going to my whole life to get permission to shoot something on a roof.

So for me, it's not the same, but I understand it. When you talk about Harlem, I know you mentioned earlier, you and Jim's relationship not being the same. That's not, like, we're never going to get to see that sit down, combo, reunion, like anything at all? I don't know. I mean, like I said, I just think that we're in two different spaces in life.

And I don't mean I don't wish them well, and I don't mean Jewel's and everybody that was part of what we did. I think it's a great movement. But sometimes things just come to an end. So I'm not, I would never say never, but it doesn't look like it's in the near future. But I do wish them brother as well.

What do you hope people say about Cam 20 years from now? In particular, what do you hope people say you stood for? Well, whatever, if you read something, and watch everything I did since I've been 20, 21 years old. It's about helping people. Of course, helping myself as well. But I always tried to make sure everybody, despite what anybody says,

tried to make sure people around me had money or was getting money because I never wanted nobody to have to ask me for money. You know, it was one of those situations where I'm like, even when Jim, we think about Jim, Jim wasn't a rapper. It's like, yo, we're going to make you a rapper, my nigga. You know what I'm saying?

Like, yo, you ain't going to be around and not know how to rap. You know what I'm saying? And I think Jim is one of the people that's grown more than anybody from the time he started to where he's at today as far as music is concerned. He didn't know how to rap.

You taught him out of rap. He's my hype man to where he's directing videos, do he had a job at Dev Jam, to where he's doing albums. I think right now people are respecting him lyrically more than anything else. But it was about always helping people. Even Jules, Jules was in a bad deal.

He's in a group called The Draft Picks. I'm like, I think I like you a lot. little better than your partner. I could get you out the deal. Let's try and get you out the deal. Everybody on Witt has made money. Whether they kept money or didn't keep money, even other people that was on the label,

which I won't name. It was always about putting everybody on and trying to make sure that they had a couple dollars because I didn't want people to have to ask me for money that was around. So even like this nigga back here, pink horsepower, I'm glad he found his lane because he was running out of time.

Listen to the killer comedy show, man. Tonight, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it. Thank you for coming. Get your tickets if you haven't got it. And where can they order this at if they need to order it? You got to shake it before you give them to them.

Make sure you go to pink hyphen horsepower. Dot net is going to lead you to the new website because it's a new website. I don't know it off the top, but it directs you to the website. So pink hyphen horsepower. dot net and make sure you go order some. That's right. Hold up. You said it's for men or it's for men? It's for men. I can take it to? No. No. So, listen.

The reason I was telling you, if you take it home, not for you to take. Right. Take it home to give it to my other. Okay. To your nigger. That's what I'm basically saying. But for the last thing, for the last thing I'll say in this, not 100% close. ComplexCon, if anybody's going to be out there in Vegas coming up,

me and sexy, right, they're doing a drop of horsepower and whatever she got. I don't want to say the wrong name, but we're going to package it together. We're going to do a special drop for her sex pill for women. So we'll try and send you something

because she has something for women. I got something for men. And then you can take sexy rights to join. Makes sense. All right, cool. Well, there you have it. It's Cameron. It's the breakfast club.

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