The Breakfast Club - Best Of Full Interview: Chloe Bailey Talks New Music, Rumored Relationships, Being An Auntie, Pursuit Of Perfection + More

Episode Date: December 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:56 Jess is on maternity leave, and we have Lauren filling in, and we got a special guest in the building. Big Chloe. Chloe Bailey, welcome. Hi. How you feeling? I'm gorgeous. Thank you, I'm feeling really good, welcome. Hi. How you feeling? I'm feeling gorgeous. Thank you, I'm feeling really good.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'm happy to see you guys again. Happy to see you too, cuz. You doing a lot of movies. Happy to see you, cuz. What? Happy to see you, cuz. He is my cousin. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:14 You be forgetting. So that's like real. Yes. Okay, cause he be claiming stuff and people will not be thinking he a little off. I don't claim nobody. No, but it's real. Yes you do.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Except for Chloe. Okay. I be proud too. You proud? I've been like, can I see my cousin? Yes I am. Oh, look at that. Lauren Yes, you do. Except for Chloé. Okay. I'd be proud too. You proud? Yes, I am. Oh, look at that. Chloé, could you not find a way to hate this morning? Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Jesus. Sorry. Chloé, you just rapped Goons. Yes, I did. The Exorcism, Fight Night is out. How do you have time to record albums? Oh, you workin', workin'. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Well, I breathe music, so I do it in between. When I was filming Fight Night, I was going back and forth between Coachella rehearsals and everything like that. So you make time for what you love. And how was doing Fight Night? Because you had so many people in there. Kevin Hart, Samuel L. Jackson, Taraji, so many people. How was working with that cast?
Starting point is 00:03:58 It was amazing. Every time I'd go to set, I pinched myself. I specifically remember, like remember during a lunch break or when we rapped that day, Taraji and I, we were in our sweats doing stunt rehearsals and I was like, this is insane. I look up to this woman and even doing the scene with Samuel L. Jackson and I was just so pumped
Starting point is 00:04:19 and nervous right before I was like, okay, you gotta hold your own because this is Sam. And he was just so gracious and Kevin and Don and Terrence. Everyone's just been so amazing and I love Will for even putting me in that space. Do you keep it cool with them or do you ask them a lot of questions? Do they have to tell you not to call me Mr. Jackson
Starting point is 00:04:35 and not to call me Miss Henson? You know, I think I do a pretty good job at keeping it cool. You know, of course inside, I'm not gonna lie, I fan girl. I'd be lying if I was like, oh yeah, no, I'm chilling. No, it's an honor to be in the room with them. And it's just really exciting.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I definitely did learn a lot, like a sponge. Any intimidation at all? Cause they have so many years in. Of course. Are you kidding me? Of course. But you're your own star, but I'm just asking, like cause they've been doing it for 20 plus years.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yes, we're all our own star in our own right, but it's always nice to have figures to look up to. So when there's people in places that you wish to be and you have experienced things that you have wished to see, it's really amazing when you can be in a room to pick their brain, you know? Gotcha. And you play Lena Mosley?
Starting point is 00:05:21 I do. So who is she? Lena, she is technically one of the guys. She's the only girl a part of the robbers. Oh, yes. So you're getting busy. She getting busy robbing. So you know how to shoot a gun in real life? No. Oh, OK. I want to learn.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah. You from the South. You got to learn. I know. I know how to box. Oh, I've never had to use my skills, but I do know. So you train boxing, you know the box yes, how much would I have to pay you to punch your cousin in the face? Oh I would not do that I'm a lover not a fighter. You know what I mean? I got a fight in this room every day. Why? It's okay, It's all right. You got me.
Starting point is 00:06:06 That's what got him where he at, the coddling. Back to Lena. Could you say she's one of the guys? Yes. So explain to me, like when you say she's one of the guys, like how does she fit in the world of like the gangsters and the thieves and. So she goes undercover.
Starting point is 00:06:21 So she convinces Chicken Man who plays Kevin Hart, well, Kevin Hart plays Chicken Man. And she's like, hey, I'm gonna be a part of one of the Go Go girls. Does she give this energy? She does give this energy. And what I really love about her is her weapon of choice is her hairpin.
Starting point is 00:06:36 And that's like, it personifies a woman. It's feminine, it looks cute, but she will cut somebody with it. Wow. Okay, hairpin. How does it feel to be an auntie now? It feels amazing. Okay. It's like life has an extra layer of meaning. I love Halo so much. How are you with the baby? Changing Pampas, changing diapers. Are you that auntie or you want to be like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:00 this is your child. You change the Pampa and then bring her back. I'm the fun auntie. Okay. You know, I do all the fun stuff with him. So I keep all of that stuff for them. You gonna be a rich auntie in the future too. Oh yes. She rich right now. Keep that energy when he wants some money. Oh yes I will.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I will spoil him anything. Halo, what you need? I got you. Does it make you wanna have like your own babies? Like is it making you kind of prepare for that? Absolutely, not for a while. Like at least. What's a while? Like six years. Okay, six years. You you kind of prepare for that? Absolutely. Not for a while. Like, what's a while? Like six years. OK, six years. You know, how old are you? 26.
Starting point is 00:07:29 OK, six years is good. But, you know, you can never really plan your life. It's all really on God's timing. But if I could write, say, like six years. Got you. And then as like Auntie, I know your sister talked a lot about like going through postpartum and all that stuff. Are you guys like how is she doing with that? Are you how do you help her through that? Because I know you didn't experience it, but you're you guys are so close
Starting point is 00:07:51 So yeah, well, I don't want to speak on her journey necessarily But no matter what each of us go through we're always there for each other no matter what and I'm just happy that we can cling on to each other like even when I'm in need or need her, like she's always there for me as I will always be for her. Like I'm mama bear when it comes to Halle. Like I always protect her. Does it bother you like when you see stuff online with like the memes of your nephew and like with DDG,
Starting point is 00:08:19 he's always posting videos, the haircut thing, like does that stuff bother you? Well, that's not my baby. He is my baby, but he's not. Good to see your nephew though. He has great parents, and I just, I'm happy to witness him grow. Got you.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah. You know, the album is called Trouble in Paradise, and I know you spend a lot of time in St. Lucia, and you said that it inspired the album. What was the inspiration? What about St. Lucia? Okay, so St. Lucia has been like my sanctuary. I have found peace there, comfort, happiness, joy,
Starting point is 00:08:52 and not saying that it erases life's problems, but it makes it a little bit easier to deal with. So I literally wrote away my troubles in paradise. And what I love about this body of work is it feels like what a summer fling feels like. You know what I mean? It's exciting, it has its ups and downs. You know, it's not too serious,
Starting point is 00:09:12 but then again, it really feels heavy. In the moment. Yes, in the moment it just feels like this is the one. But then it's like, oh no. Then by Labor Day you like, you know what? What was I even doing? Yeah, exactly. So I love the project.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Do you remember a place that you found peace before St. Lucia? No. Wow. No. Wow. So when I found it, I was like, this is what it's like to live. Yeah. And see you're in Kansas, so you like water.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Of course, you know. Okay. Wow. When you say to live, is it because like you've been famous and like kind of in the spotlight for a long time? Or do you just mean like mean just because they live differently, they're very free on the islands? What do you mean by to live?
Starting point is 00:09:49 It gave a new definition to living because this is all I've known my whole life. I've been in the spotlight or however you want to call it since I've been a little girl. So my life, my goals, my dreams, my aspirations, what makes me happy, it's all been based on my career and how people view me in that space. But it's also about your internal, your character,
Starting point is 00:10:13 how you feel mentally, your heart. And when I went there, I was like, okay, this is true peace. It has nothing to do with how people view me as an artist, but actually as a human being. I was triggered by your album a little bit. Why? Tell me why. He's light skinned.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. I'm gonna give myself to you. Because he's a bitch. Everything comes with him. Share with me. Are you about to cry? Almost. You have a song on there called Rose.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And I'm not talking flowers. Yeah. We had a conversation on the Breakfast Club one day about how women use the rose And I'm not talking flowers. We had a conversation on the breakfast club one day about how women use the rose and how men... You gotta dig deeper. Don't tell this story if you're not gonna tell it. I'm gonna tell it. Yeah, we can go there.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It's all right. You need to dig deeper. Are you laughing back there? He has some issues. If you're gonna tell this story, you need to tell it. Oh no. Yeah, he has some issues. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Let me tell right in my tears a little bit. You know, some men look at the rose and not flowers as cheating and you want women to charge the rose But how about me? Now that's not fair because if you think a rose is cheating then you could say porn is cheating Some people do consider porn cheating. I don't like I there are some people who'll be like we have to watch it together We don't need to do that. That's OD in it People can have fantasies. Okay, so this song she really idolizes the rose and I don. We don't need to do it at all. Now that's OD in it. People can have fantasies. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:26 So this song, she really idolizes the rose and I don't like it. Your eyes are really teary. You buried the lead though. Tell her about the book, King. Tell her what you wrote. Tell her about the part you wrote in your book. She wrote away her troubles.
Starting point is 00:11:37 That's right. You wrote away yours as well. Oh, I have to hear this, please. Okay, wait. Me and my wife have been together since 16. Love it. Mm-mm, hold on. When we first had sexual relations, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay wait me and my wife have been together since 16 love it When we first have in sexual relations
Starting point is 00:11:52 Don't look at me like that cuz you okay. I'm just waiting. I'm sorry. I don't know what I'm To make her orgasm hold my hand, please wait. Why are you talking about this? It was in the book. We thought in the book we find out. Okay, but for Five years no ten. Don't you dare cut that? You see what I'm saying? Get your cousin. You see what I'm saying? It was ten. Ten years. You said ten in the book.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I read the book. Don't you laugh. Don't you laugh. I'm not laughing. But for a while it took me. Ten years, Chloe. Stop it. A decade.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I could not make her reach orgasm. You can't get to no points. That's why you hate toys. Just get there already. I couldn't get there. That was the problem. You ain't getting nowhere. That was the problem and I couldn't get there because you know what, I used to watch porn
Starting point is 00:12:28 and I used to think bang, bang, bang, bang, bang was the way and I realized it wasn't. And now the rose triggers me. That's why he hates toys. Yeah. You just need to build yourself up. Aw. So that you're not triggered by materialistic things.
Starting point is 00:12:43 You're right. You have to better yourself. You're right. And that'll solve the problem. You're not triggered by materialistic things. You have to better yourself. And that'll solve the problem. It should be an addition to you all's love. Right. So. I agree, that's sound advice. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Thank you, Chloe. You're welcome. And why you laughing back there? I see you laughing back there. She is cracking up, honey. She is having a time over here, especially when he said 10. When he doubled down, someone fell off the couch.
Starting point is 00:13:10 So she told you that? She was honest about it? You gonna bring it back? You should be honest about that. I'm really intrigued. Okay, so let me tell you what happened. We've been married 23 years, together 30 years. I know, but I wanna tell her to give me back.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Because we good now. That's a beautiful thing though. We good now. We'll break the rules. But it happened during an argument. She probably got tired. And she was like, exactly. And then it was bad.
Starting point is 00:13:29 But we worked. He's worked. He tried to flush the rolls down the toilet. That's how mad he got. I actually ran over it. I put it out in the car, ran over it. But yeah, but we good now. But we write about it in the book
Starting point is 00:13:44 so couples can learn from my mistake. Okay. Any more questions, Chloe? Wanna trigger me some more? You walked this up. You ain't no, you walked this up. No, I'm happy that it ended in a positive way. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Okay. I hate this place. Go ahead. So this album, and even just hear you talking right now, I feel like this is a lot, you're a lot more like open about just you Relationships wise like sexuality. I saw the video you posted when people were reacting to the lyrics and you was like y'all like it's life It happens. Like how has that been coming around even being in a public eye like the dating stuff?
Starting point is 00:14:18 I know there was a photo with you and gonna How is all of this new world for you because you're not more like you're here. You're sure Well, it wasn't it's not that new like, you're sure, but you're confident. A new photo of her and got her? Well, it wasn't, it's not that new, like it wasn't yesterday, but there was an additional one outside of y'all. Oh shoot. So y'all were in LA, remember you guys were
Starting point is 00:14:33 in the store shopping, and you were like, no, no, no, he came here, you're like, no, no, no, we're just friends, and then you performed with Offset, and then there was a photo of y'all at the party afterward. Y'all are just standing next to each other in the photo, which sparked some more rumors, so. Lauren did her homework on you. No, this is my, I love her.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Nah, she is great. I'm watching her. No, I gotta give you a job. Look, I got my pen in my hand. This is, I'm at work. No, you that girl. Thank you. I appreciate that. We ain't gonna get around a question though.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Oh no, I'm listening. I'm not defecting. I wanna know, okay. So I wanna know two things. First of all, I wanna know, right, because you are who you are. He is who he is, talking about Gunna. And it's tough sometimes, and people critique you a lot about you're a woman, and you date, and you have sex,
Starting point is 00:15:12 and you do these different things. So is that tough trying to date at all, removing Gunna from the situation? Yeah, well one, I'm really proud of everything that he's doing. Two, honestly, it is tough to date because even if I just wanna go out to grab a bite, say talk about music, if it's any one of the opposite sex,
Starting point is 00:15:33 it's like, oh, that's who she's dating. And I want people to focus on me and my career. I don't wanna be connected to every man that I'm standing next to. So because of that, I mean, I am naturally a hermit, but because of that, I'm just like extra, extra cautious. Yeah. And that's unfortunate though,
Starting point is 00:15:48 because you are in the phase where I'm sure you're dating, wanting to meet new people, and it's a fun thing to be able to do. You can't do it publicly, but since those photos were public at one time, I don't know, you guys have denied it, and then the offset thing happened. What's the synergy there?
Starting point is 00:16:02 Is there nothing there for real or? You wanna know the status? Yeah, like I just wanna know. I feel like every time we get told there's nothing then it's like y'all find each other somewhere. Well, I mean, we're both in the industry. He's doing his thing. I'm doing my thing.
Starting point is 00:16:14 He's doing really great by the way. So it's just all love. Yeah. Okay. Are you writing nowadays more from a reflective standpoint or as a storyteller? Cause you know, I hear records like Might as well, where you say things like,
Starting point is 00:16:27 I might fly a nigga to the south side, let him hit it first night then fall back. Jesus. You know, that's the new Khloe I'm talking about. My girl, you here now? So it's like, my external doesn't say these things. Right, but my internal feels them. So when I write, it's like coming from a standpoint,
Starting point is 00:16:49 this is what I'd say to you. Right. If you, you know, if I had the gall, the gumption. I like that for you though. You fly a man out for real? No. Oh, okay. Why you can't fly a man out?
Starting point is 00:17:03 If you like him, you wouldn't do it? She ain't gonna be dealing with no brokeies. They'll fly themselves out. No, I didn't say that. If a man is treating you well, you want to treat them sometimes. But I don't think I would do that. I mean, maybe I'd go there instead
Starting point is 00:17:19 so that I'm flying myself. Okay. You feel me? You're dating somebody that might not have it like you did. You wouldn't say, you know what, boo boo, I'ma fly you to me in L.A. Or I'ma fly you to me to St. Lucia, or I'ma fly you to wherever.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I would want them to at least be able to get a flight to see me. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Yeah, you know? I don't wanna be like, I don't wanna play like the masculine role and like make him feel less than, so I'd rather not even visit that. People forget that you're 26 years old.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I think a lot of people still look at you as the young teenager singing. Do you have a hard time with that? No, it kind of makes me laugh, especially when I have no makeup on, I do look 15. And I do have like a young spirit. So, I mean, it's okay. It's sometimes I'm like, gosh, I'm 26, four years from 30.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Like, let's let it go. But. What does your dad and auntie say about those lyrics? Cause you're such a family person. Yeah. And usually your dad says, so what do you, what do they say when they hear those lyrics? So my godmom, she's the first person I'll send the songs to.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And she knows me like at the back of my hand. So she will laugh a lot to the lyrics and then she'll also push me. And what I really love too about how Want Me came about with SIS and I, when I played it for her, she was like, this feels like a Chloe and Harley record. And I kept looping that in my head and I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:39 So then I wrote SISTERS' verse and I was like, do you wanna hop on this with me? And it was nice that we got to have a collaboration together after two years. So it's like little things like that that I won't always be privy or open to that she'll like call out. So it's always nice to have someone that you'll trust.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Now if a song is, she'll tell me. There's too much. Yeah. Are there ever any songs like, cause you have temporarily single, All I Got Where like, you're opening up about stuff where you're like don't listen to this one y'all like skip over that one like do you ever have to tell them that? I always get nervous anytime I play my music anytime. Really? Yes because you're
Starting point is 00:19:15 I'm burying my soul in the song and it's like okay yeah this is me I don't really show this this is me so it's like I hope you know people will like it even the ones closest to me. I'll get nervous, I'll have my head down listening, looking up like this. I love the relationship you have with your godmother too though, because you hear people say,
Starting point is 00:19:35 oh I'm the godmom, I'm the goddad, but you don't see the godparent really act like it. She really holds you down like that. Has that always been the case? It has. She's the first person to show me what unconditional love truly looks like. Wow. Wow. Y'all know anybody got a parents?
Starting point is 00:19:53 I am. Me too, but I don't act like it. You got one too. I don't know what it entails. Like that's what I'm saying. When I see them together, I'm like... Okay, so it's like if something happens to, you know, they will take over. Like I'm Halo's aunt, but I'm also his godmom. Wow. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:20:08 That's fitting for y'all though, cause I don't know who else is, like you guys are the closest. I've never, it's just, it's y'all. I know, she, I would have been like, excuse me, why am I not the godmom? But it makes sense when you got a relationship, when somebody just labels you that,
Starting point is 00:20:20 and then you don't really have a relationship with the child. With the child, right. And then something happens, you're like, I don't know this person. Like, you know what I I don't know this person. I think we all got parents on birthdays and holidays, right? You don't send gifts at all?
Starting point is 00:20:31 I don't even know what it means. That's why I say when I see them, it's like, oh, OK, that's how it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be like your backup angel. It's like, you know, like you might need to call him for something. You might need to, God, Dad, I need some money. You might need to get advice. It depends on the relationship.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I like how you said the little backup guardian angel. That's how I think of my god mom, who's also my aunt as well too. It's my grandma's sister, but I feel like we are kindred spirits, and just God made it that way. But I have a question for you about, you mentioned when you play your music for people
Starting point is 00:21:03 and people hear your music, you always get nervous. How do you deal with critiques? Because I know John B came out and that was a whole thing when he said that you and Gunna's song that you remade of his, what song was it? They Don't Know was Ratchet. And people were upset at him for saying that. How did you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Well, John B is an incredible artist. If that song didn't exist, we couldn't sample it. So I love what Gunna and I did to it. And you know, I'm sad he feels that way, but hey, everyone has opinions. You also say he didn't get, it didn't get cleared. I was like, it had to get cleared. Yeah, that, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah. I mean, it had to get cleared for us to be sold. She was like, look, I just. Did you know who John B was before that? Of course. Of course. Why do y'all think that us younger people. John, get on and be asked, John.
Starting point is 00:21:44 No, I'm just asking. Don't get on his, get on yours too. As they talk to me, because I'm younger, I'm just like do-to-do. It's like, I might not know everything, but. No, it's really important to listen to her and trust the youth and like, she's a smart one. Put it here, girl.
Starting point is 00:22:01 When's your birthday? November 22nd. Are you a Sag? I love Sag. I'm gonna cut this. Put it here girl. When's your birthday? November 22nd. Are you a Sag? I love Sag. I love your Sag. Okay, okay. It don't have nothing to do with youth, Chloe. It has the fact that she, sometimes, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:22:12 What? People just don't be knowing stuff. Okay. That's all. That's it. Yes, but if she doesn't know something, we can't say it's because of her youth. Yeah, she just don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:21 That's why you gotta inform her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Yeah. It's just little things though Like what like what what you you wanted to ask you wanted somebody? No, we call the T for a queen. She didn't know it was Queen Latifah. No, that's not true He asked me do I know Queen Latifah's real name? That's what he asked me. That's not true. It started from LL
Starting point is 00:22:39 Cool. Yeah, I didn't know LL cool. Jays real name cuz I'm like, it's LL cool J like what do you mean? That's that stuff. Those are things I think people should know though, but that goes back to when we were younger, we had to read the album credits. Correct. Like we would watch the movies, watch the TV shows, and look at the end credits to see what people were doing. What's up y'all?
Starting point is 00:22:56 So on a recent episode of Quest Love Supreme, my co-hosts, I'm P. Bill and Sugar Steve and I sat down with the king at rock of the Beastie Boys. We talked about the early days of the Beasties, thinking for records around the globe, and now he makes music these days in a cabin in the mountains. Oh, and this jewel.
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Starting point is 00:25:07 working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all, Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast
Starting point is 00:25:34 for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. through hip hop. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15 year old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And if you came with me, did you know, did you know I wouldn't give up my seat? Nine months before Rosa, he was Claudette Goldman. Get the kids in your life excited about history
Starting point is 00:26:17 by tuning in to Historical Records, because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeart Radio app, Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to historical records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey y'all, I'm Maria Fernanda Diaz. My podcast, When You're Invisible, is my love letter to the working-class people and immigrants who shaped my life. I get to talk to a lot of people who form the backbone of our society, but who have never been interviewed before. Season two is all about community,
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Starting point is 00:27:11 We're made out of the same things. Bone, body, blood. It's rare to have black male teachers. Sometimes I am the lesson and I'm also the testament. Listen to When You're Invisible as part of the MyCultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That I do miss.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I feel like that art is gone. Like that's something that I would have appreciated. You know? Do you really feel like nice girls finish last? So I do feel that way. And in your case, your wife did. Oh, that's good. It was not a stat.
Starting point is 00:27:53 No, that's what the song's about. That's what the song is about. Don't let it fool you. Don't let all of this fool you. That's what the song is about. Explain the lyrics. That's what the song is about. Now everybody's gonna go listen to Nice Girls Finish Last
Starting point is 00:28:16 because we cater to the man. We cater to the man and the nice girl finishes last. And then we reference Janet Jackson at the end on the last line of the song. That's what the song is about. Was that a stab Chloe? It was not. It was not.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So what you're saying that women should speak up for themselves more and if they're not getting what they want, say it. It's like a innuendo. Yeah. And you also, are you also speaking like romantically like sexually as well too? That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah because you wanna, it's all about like pleasing your partner. Sorry, Emmy. It was not a stab. No, it was not a TV. They don't see it on YouTube. But the way she looked at it, he said, that's what your wife. Somebody told me that he needs to you. I don't want no rose. Put that rose on the other side. I want the roses over here. You want this? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:09 But that's what the song is about. That's what it's about. Okay. Like taking the back seat and like letting your partner, you know. As a woman, like, cause one of the things that I feel like I'm learning right now is,
Starting point is 00:29:21 She's single by the way. I am and I'm enjoying it. Period. Independent. Hey, not temporarily either, Kloy. learning right now is she's single by the way I am and I'm enjoying it but I've been enjoying it and I will say though like one of the things I had to learn is like how to take a backseat because I wasn't just naturally that wasn't in my household but then he made me forget everything I was about to say because I wasn't just natural, like that wasn't in my household. But then he made me forget everything I was about to say. Oh, as a woman who, you know, you're very career oriented, you have a lot going for yourself, all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:29:56 how do you deal with knowing when to take the back seat and knowing when to be like, no, I'm not doing that because you don't want to intimidate the guy. That's a really great question. So for me, I'm not doing that, because you don't wanna intimidate the guy. That's a really great question. So, for me, I like to be babied a bit. Like, because I am in a field where I do have to lead and speak up for myself and, you know, command the room and everything,
Starting point is 00:30:19 it's nice to be able to come to a space that you're comfortable, where you can let that down. I feel like every woman wants a protector, they just have to find the man who can protect. And I feel like that's, when we don't feel that way, that's when we feel like we have to stick our chest out because it's like fight or flight. But when we feel like someone is capable enough
Starting point is 00:30:40 to carry us, to shield us, you know, when the storm gets crazy, that's when we kind of take that backseat role. So it's really about who you find comfortable being that vulnerable with, I feel. I agree with that, you so calm. Really? Yeah, you're right too.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Shit, not the one she threw that, dar that interview just now. No, but even that, I loved it. I don't know how to shoot a guy, I never shot a gun before. I can't tell. I couldn't tell. Now, being that you are who you are, Chloe,
Starting point is 00:31:06 do you really feel like fuck your status when it comes to guys? Cause you got a song that I'm called FYI. FYI status. Do you really feel that way? Do you really feel like all I need is love? I don't need nothing else. I don't need the money, the cars, the diamonds,
Starting point is 00:31:19 your position, job. Yeah. Honestly, yes. I still want someone with drive and someone who has ambition so that we can build each other up. But I think being in a world where it's so superficial and everything is based on what you have, what are you doing next, this. Sometimes it gets a little suffocating and redundant. So it's nice to just have someone who loves you just for you.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So you would date somebody that wasn't in the industry? Oh yeah. Like the guy that drive UPS or something? No. But someone not in the industry. Yeah, got you, got you. But I think a lot of times too, when people ask that question,
Starting point is 00:32:01 I mean, I get it, but when people ask that question too, one of the conversations people don't have is sometimes when finances aren't right, or even just status, right? We could both be making the same money, but I'm more outward than you are. I've never come across a man that has been secure enough
Starting point is 00:32:15 in himself to be okay with that, and it causes problems, even if you don't bring them in. And that's why women, we kind of do that to protect ourselves sometimes. So I think it gets unfairly thrown on women. You're very successful. It gets unfairly thrown on you when you say, oh, I have a preference.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But the preference sometimes is to protect yourself. But what would be wrong with a UPS driver? That's what somebody would say. Everybody has a preference. Nothing's wrong with a UPS driver. Nothing's wrong with them at all. Would I date someone? Maybe, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Just like everyone has a preference. They like a woman with a big booty. They like a woman with a big booty. They like a woman with tiny titties. Everybody has a preference. You wouldn't date somebody short though. That's, that would be out though. I would date someone who I'm the same height with, with heels on.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Oh, okay. I know somebody, yeah. I've known somebody who's kind of your height. Who? We've seen them in photos together already. Who is this? Why do you keep going back to this? What is this? What are you trying to ask for?
Starting point is 00:33:11 I think you're being such a fly couple. What are you trying to ask here? I'm asking you, would you like, if today he's like, we need to do this, would you lock in? Is the relationship there where you guys are friends enough, I understand you're just friends now, but you guys are friends enough where you would be like, you know what, I would explore this. I think we're both living like our own lives.
Starting point is 00:33:29 You so good at this. Good at what? Your answers, your answers. I'm just being honest. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, we're just living our own lives, you know? Did you like his physical transformation? Yeah, I'm really proud of him.
Starting point is 00:33:41 It's always great when someone transforms their life like that, you know? He did it the right way No surgery. No BBLs. He looks great. Yeah Are you asking her or telling her? Were you confused? Get your cousin, I told you Lauren, what's your problem?
Starting point is 00:33:59 Nothing Jesus Christ I was gonna say, you opened the album. I think it's All I Got, but correct me if I'm wrong. And you talk about, there's a guy who, he's not the fall guy, but he's always there for you. And he's always there for you in all the right ways, but that's not the guy you like or wanna be with. But then there's this other guy,
Starting point is 00:34:19 this is the ideal guy, but he doesn't know how to be there for you in the same way. What's your experience been like with that? Like in how... She wants to ask which one is gonna... That's what she wants to ask. What inspired that song? So what inspired the song? You guys love talking about it. What inspired the song? It's kind of crazy. I didn't even say that.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Right? Right? I literally didn't even say it this time. I just was interested in that. We knew where you was going. You know, I think every girl has that. Yeah, what inspired the song though for me is that you want to feel safe and secure, but then at the same time, you also want someone to push you out of your comfort zone.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So it's the catch 22 because we all just, oh, it's life, life be life. So you like the bad guy, you like the guy that's gonna keep you secure and safe bet. The latter, the latter. Should men listen to your albums and like use it as a blueprint?
Starting point is 00:35:08 Like should they use it like how people use Steve Harvey books or is just the stuff you're writing? Do you really mean a lot of this? They can if they would like to. Okay, okay. Yeah. You know, I mean, there might be some girls who have experienced things I've experienced,
Starting point is 00:35:21 there might be not, but it was really fun, you know, just coming from such a stance of power as being a woman and being in the islands, you know, just looking out at the water as I'm creating this music. It was just something about it. It was just like... So you recorded the whole album in English?
Starting point is 00:35:38 I did. Wow. I did. We had a villa, flew out, producer, engineer, and it was just so nice. And every night we'd go out, experience the music. I'd go swimming, come back in, record. It was just the most freeing experience, to be honest. Did you do the mud bath thing in St. Lucia?
Starting point is 00:35:54 I did. Okay. Yes, Sulfur Springs. Sulfur Springs. Sulfur Springs. How was that? Amazing, I love it. It's so, so cleansing.
Starting point is 00:36:02 What's fun and relaxed you? Like no work in St. Like on a day where you're not working in St. Lucia, you're not Chloe. You're just somebody that's there and experiencing to have a good time. Like, what are you like? Are you the stand on the couch friend? You're the spa friend? Like, which one are you?
Starting point is 00:36:16 I'm the friend who has my bathing suit on and my big baggy sweatpants, and I go straight to the beach and I lounge out there all day and I'll eat good food. Or be on a boat and jump off. Adventurous friend. Yes, adventurous friend. I also read one time that you said you enjoy acting because it helps train your brain not to aim for perfection. So have you been striving for perfection in everything else?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Like your career path, your personal life? When it comes to performing and music, you kind of have to. You're only as good as your last performance. And you rehearse for hours to make sure the choreography's perfect. You make sure you can sing the song perfectly so that it's like, so for me, I just love acting as well
Starting point is 00:37:02 because it's like it taps into a piece of me where I can be really raw and vulnerable and open. And when you are channeling an actual human being, there's beauty in the flaws. And how hard is it to try to chase perfection though? Like, I feel like you'll beat yourself up if you don't feel like you're doing things perfectly. You'll constantly, it'll be like an endless cycle,
Starting point is 00:37:25 like a hamster in a wheel. And for me, there's so many times I've done that, but it's like, it'll be a losing battle. So it's a catch-22 as well. A lot, cause a lot of times that can lead to like depression, that can lead to like anxiety, because you think you're not doing things the way you're supposed to. You're not doing enough.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. What was an experience that made you realize, okay, I gotta learn to step off the wheel? Do you remember a moment where you're like, oh, I'm hitting rock bottom right now, I gotta step off the wheel? I think it was last year.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And it was like, you know when you kind of go numb a bit and you kind of, nothing really phases you. Yeah, that's when you're like, OK, I've lost feeling. How do I get that back? You don't want to ever give up to a point where you stop caring. Yeah. So I'm happy that my love and care has come back. But what I really appreciate is how you constantly do talk about mental health because it is important and I feel like especially in the black community
Starting point is 00:38:28 it's overlooked or like it's frowned upon sometimes but more recently it hasn't been. But I think therapy's important. I think talking to the people, your loved ones so that you're not suffering or going through anything alone, I think all of that's important. Did it help you get out that space, like therapy? Oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:38:47 If you don't mind. And this one over here. God mama. See? Yes. You said a line one time, you said, people who you think will be there for the rest of your life, people who you think have your back through and through, they have the knife. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yep. Wow. That's life. And I think what has been healthy for me is knowing that everybody goes through kind of the similar thing. Absolutely. It kind of takes me out of the moment of being like, woe is me.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Like, of course, I still do, you know, I'll be like, damn, and I'll allow myself to feel, but it's like, okay, someone is going through something similar, you're not alone, and it's like, okay, this is just life, and that's're not alone, and it's like, okay, this is just life. And that's how I'll generalize it to keep pushing. You know how to set boundaries? That's my big learning lesson right now.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I'm getting there, I'm getting there. Where were you, if you don't mind me asking, what was going on in your life at the time where you had to step off the wheel and you got numb? Because I remember what I was going through specifically. It was a factor of things, It was a factor of things. It was a factor of things. It's like, I think there's always that little cherry on top.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah. And it's like, oh. But what is important is that you always continue to get back up and having people who can help you get back up. So I'm standing now. There you go. How was it when you and Haile got back in the studio?
Starting point is 00:40:04 It was amazing. We were in New York, actually. We had like a press event here. And I was like, sis, OK, here's the verse. You like it? She's like, I love it. I was like, come. She's like, OK, I'm bringing Halo to the studio.
Starting point is 00:40:15 He was there at the engineering board with me. And she just sounded so beautiful. And she just pushed the record to be even more special. Is it hard to get her to do anything other than be a mother nowadays? No, she is multifaceted. She's doing so much. She's been filming, taking care of Halo,
Starting point is 00:40:31 even when I was filming in New Orleans. She came to visit me for a weekend because I was feeling lonely, so I was happy. I know you guys, it's tea time. Yes, it's tea time. And y'all started it back up and I saw Halo was in one of them. What it is like, because you've always been close,
Starting point is 00:40:46 but now she's a mom, so she's experiencing different things. Is the relationship different now, or is it the same, but you just have to know she's also a mom too? Like, what was that like? In a really weird way, it's gotten stronger. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I can't explain it. It's just like, I think because we both have a deeper appreciation for life now, seeing something so pure and innocent like that, it has made our bond stronger. Y'all women now, it's like a different level of womanhood. That's what I feel through this project, that's why I'm like, you here, I'm happy for you.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Thank you, thank you so much, I'm happy that you enjoyed it. Let's split, can we play a joint other than Rose off the album? I think we should play Rose. I think we should play Rose on the album. We could play, honestly. Favorite. Favorite. Because 23 years, you her favorite.
Starting point is 00:41:34 There you go. Yes, I like that. Made up for it. There we go. There we go. True cancer. Shoot you, heal it up a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:43 You literally laughed a little longer, so shoot you again. You a cancer? Yes. You know what I'm saying? You laugh a little longer, she'll shoot you again. You have cancer? Yes. Oh yes, wow. Absolutely. Oh my goodness. 6.29 July 1st. You July 1st? No, I'm 6.29, you July 1st. Oh, I was like, hold on, that is not good. Well, it's Chloe Bailey. We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club. Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club, good morning. Wake that ass up. Early in the morning. The Breakfast Club. What's up y'all?
Starting point is 00:42:12 So in a recent episode of Quest Love Supreme, my co-hosts, I'm Bay Bill and Sugar Steve and I sat down with the king at rock of the Beastie Boys. We talked about the early days of the Beasties, thinking for records around the globe, and how he makes music these days in a cabin in the mountains. Oh, and this jewel. I was trying to start a band in the 90s called the Nasal Tongues. Me and Q-Tip and MC Milk
Starting point is 00:42:33 and Be Real. Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey y'all, I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, host of Therapy for Black Girls. This January, join me for our third annual January Jumpstart Series. Starting January 1st, we'll have inspiring conversations to give you a hand in kickstarting your personal growth. If you've been holding back or playing small, this is your all-access pass to step fully
Starting point is 00:43:02 into the possibilities of the new year. This is a therapy for black girls starting on January 1st on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's John, also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan or Joho. And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh, chat, this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show,
Starting point is 00:43:36 Angela Carras and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Film Podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Alpha Podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Ooh, I know that's right. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
Starting point is 00:44:01 After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of our podcast, Ruthie's Table Four. There are many luxuries in life,
Starting point is 00:44:33 but I have to say that going to see Ian McKellen was one of the great days of my life. It's a joke that actors in the old days not being paid enough money or getting enough to eat would say, oh, we're doing Chekhov, there's a practical pork pie in the third act. Free, free food. Listen to Rufy's Table Four on iHeart, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you listen to your podcasts.
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