The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: G Herbo Talks New Album 'Lil Herb,' Grief; Father's Passing, Family, Meek Mill, Funny Marco + More

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

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This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Every day I wake up, wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. You're all finished or y'all's done. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious.

Shalameen the guy. We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, sir. We got G. G. Irvo. Welcome. Good morning.

And congratulations, man. The number one record a couple of weeks ago, congrats, man. Thank you. Thank you, brother. How are you? I'm good. I'm glad to be here.

That's what so. How's the field, number one, record uh it feel good i'm not gonna lie i feel great it feel great i just be trying to like stay in the moment real for real like and just just keep it like up you know like when you got those type of moments you just trying to figure out like i well i me personally like i got to figure out what's the next best thing like what do i do next from that like i try to live in a moment and grasp up that energy but just keep it going like i'm not trying to catch another number one i'm just trying to keep it going did you expect that to be the record because

It's not your typical book. It was just, you just spitting. Nah, hell, no, for sure. I was just, literally, I can't say it enough. It was just me just having fun in the studio. I was in New York and was in the studio, me, Southside, Smat, and, you know, Southside, like, I really, I'd be having to give a lot of credit to Big Bro, because he won the only people that could tell me, like, rap on this, just rap on this and figure it out, like, just rap.

And that's what I did, and that shit changed my life. He was just talking shit on that. He was talking shit on there. Who picked it as a single? Like, was it just, I'm just going to release and see what happened and it just took off?

That's what I'm saying. That's why, like, as artists, you got to, like, really just bet on yourself for real, for real, because I was in a, in a mold of just trying to do music

and see what the streets connected to. I didn't even, like, that song came out in December on my app. I got an app on my own app where I just put out music, material, content,

It's just for the people who really support me. Like, you know what I'm saying? My fans, they know about the G Herbal app. I put it out on my app on a project that I was just recording all samples to. Like, I did a project with all samples, and it couldn't even go on Apple music. It couldn't go on DSPs.

So I'm saying? Like, I put it out on the app in December, and the label put it out on DSPs in like March, April. So it's like, you got to just trash it and just see what the streets fuck with. Congratulations on your app. I know you had an app. I appreciate it.

Has it changed the bag? Has that single changed your bag? Absolutely. Because see, I'd be thinking that, you know, a lot of people be fronting on, like, the power of radio and having a big radio record. Speak to that, man. For sure.

And you got to put money in radio, though. Like, you got to, like, you know what I'm saying, what you put in, it come out. Or go out on the wash, come out on the wrist, whatever they're saying is, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, I always been like, I knew because I've been independent this whole time. So I know about, like,

analytics i know about like residuals i know what like one record could really change your life that's right i'm saying like i finally caught that record that like that life changing records so yeah the bag been crazy and the royalties from radio are better than the screaming yeah absolutely for sure and it's like once you once you get a song that really go radio it's like it just like it just changed everything for real for changes the places you actually perform yeah for sure right You could put money in radio for sure For it to do what it's supposed to do But just like

Even like it's a difference between like Putting something in radio For just getting a radio for just getting Rhythmic playlist You know what I'm saying Like all of that It's just a big super difference Like I'll be talking to like

Make all the time It's just like once you get a record Like I'm not even talking about what legit Like it's certain records that like The format where you know it could go radio You know what I'm saying Like, I feel like every artist, all you need is, like, one radio record a year. Just one.

Like, you feel what I'm saying? It ain't that easy to get one record, right? It's not easy at all, but, like, you know, hitmaker, that's my big brother. Like, he's the god of this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he knows the whole formula, he'd do it. Like, and that's why he's so rich. Like, that nigger, rich as shit.

Because he on radio every year at least once. Right. For sure. Wilde little herb. While a little herb. Uh, I was just trying to, like, tap in. of like that old hunger like my old self and when I be rapping good and shit like I'd be reading the comments and shit sometime my fans be like oh that ain't they ain't je herbal

that's little hurt you know what I'm saying like I feel like that was like one of my best eras of rap like I always been able to rap I'm an emce so it's like I don't care if I'm not even all the way tapped into like my confidence and all of that shit I'm always gonna be the rap good you feel me but like once you really focus on straight rap it's different and that's what I was trying to do so that's why I went and like name

my album Laherb like I was going to like listen to old interviews listen to old music videos I mean watch old music videos listen to old songs and shit like that and like I was just trying to find like

a higher like level of rap for myself you know what I'm saying like and I say this all the time like you could really get caught up in what's in front of you like I always been the type of person like I say this a lot a lot of rooms that I was in I wasn't really in the rooms you know what I'm saying because I'm thinking about like my past yeah I'm thinking about what I got to do when I get out the room like I'm just saying what's up like certain conversations that I really couldn't have because my mind is all over the place you feel like so like in this like era where I'm

I am mentally I was just trying to like find that old hunger that made me enjoy what I have now like you know what I'm saying like that's that's why I really named my project little herb because like you're like on a day-to-day I'm 30 years old I'm in rapist since I was like 16 for real for real like you feel me and I was trying to figure out like damn like all the steps that it took me to get here you feel I'm saying like I forgot a lot I'm not going to lie It's a lot of shit that I did that I forgot, so it's like I wanted to make myself remember. So I had to, like, go back in and, like, tap in with my old self, for real. I heard you say Little Herb is a full circle moment, and it's a return to the fundamentals.

But you're closing the chapter on the Little Herb era. What does closing that chapter actually look like? Closing that chapter is, like, for real, just letting go. There's a lot of shit that I held on to that I just don't need no more. Like, for real, for real, like, the streets. Therapy talk right there, boy. Yeah, just letting go, for real, for it. And it is, it is definitely therapy that help me.

It's like a lot of shit that you hold on to. You just like, just let it go. Just let it go and just let it find you. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, for real. Like, I was one of them people that just, like, my heart is so big. And I feel like people knew that. Like, people knew that, like, they grab me and I'm grabbing them back.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm holding on to that type of shit. It's like, that's just letting that. chapter go like i i should like and people have been saying this to me for years and i've been knowing it but i never really acted on it like i i shouldn't focus on nothing but music and my family and like god like that's the only thing that i should wake up and care about i shouldn't really give a fuck about how somebody else eat or how somebody else get to work or get the sleep or any of that shit and i worried about that for years like let's be closed in that chapter like

i'm gonna tap into this tell my story and just let go relax Let go and let God, for real, real, for, and that go for everything and everybody. And it's a whole other chapter open to from me because everything that got me here, I don't, I don't even really have it no more, for real, for real, for it. Like, all my friends did. I'm going to be a real 100% independent artist. Like, I don't got no label, no production company. I'm 100% a real new person and a new artist. So it's like, I just want to just tap into this shit, do what I need to do.

And I'm already doing it for real, but just, like, letting go for real. Like, I don't want to have no attachments other than family. No bullshit. You talked about games. How did you balance revisiting, like, those old traumas with the grown man you are now? Like, you're 30, so you're a whole new level of life. You're not a shift to the phase in life. You're not that kid, 19-year-old kid, no more.

Yeah, no, for sure. My homie, one of my best friends, he used to say this shit. Like, he only probably, like, eight months older than me. He's like, bro, once you. you touch 30, you just gonna start. He used to tell me, like, I can't wait to you turn 30. Like, he turned 30, he like, I can't wait

to you turn 30. Right. Because it's just like, it's like a light switch. Like, shit just, you know what I'm saying? Just tap me in for you. And it's, for me, for real, like, I promise. I'm, like, I don't be wanting to sound like cliche or corny or none of this type of shit.

But, like, my girl is, like, my toughest critic. Like, she's one of the people who really just like stay on me like she tell me a lot of shit that I know and I don't act on you know I'm saying where it's just to come to like my business niggas around me you what I'm saying like all of that you feel me like and like to kind of like tap into what you was saying the question is like you just got to you just got to really like just go with your gut your intuition you know I'm saying like a lot of times niggas question their self and feel like all right but you know you might know

the answer you might know right from wrong and not do it because you question how is going to affect other people you know what I'm saying like and I'm one of them type of people but like I'm one of the type of people that think about how it's going to affect other people and like I was saying that like because my girl

she like she don't give a fuck like she don't care and you need that like you need it because like I really got to stop caring for real for real like I feel like I care too much and I like done certain shit or not done certain things because I'm figuring, I'm feeling like it's going to affect people in a negative

way or whatever way it is, you know what I'm saying? It's like, if you got a good heart, if you just lead with what is right for you, like, it'll work out for sure. Now, you talk about Meek Mill changing your life, right? You said he was your inspiration. Yeah. Break that down of what you've seen in milk that, Meek, that made you think that you can do it. Bro, I literally, I've just got done listening to we're going to get this money right now on my way here. Like, Meek is my favorite rapper, for real, bro. It's my. It's my favorite rapper. my big brother and I was just with meek last night we just did a song last night we was in the studio last night I believe yeah two nights ago yeah we was in the studio the other day

but meek is just like like he's like I used to listen to meek and watch meek when he was a battle rapper but when he really got rich and made this shit happen it's like I but that like it's different for me watching like Wayne and hold and you know what I'm saying like I couldn't like I could relate to it but it's like when I grew up and me I seen them niggas rich already like I seen me turn rich coming from the streets and going through all the shit that he went through and really like talking about it and preaching like positivity and motivation that shit made me feel like I just want to be like that for real for like that that nigga really like helped me

growing to the artist that I am today for real for real because like damn like this nigga meek like it's not like he was an artist and he was like far away you know what I'm saying like I felt like I could grasp on to that shit and become

that like this nigga is a real street nigga that became the biggest in the world like he became the biggest best rap and he's a rap guy like I love rapping I'm an emce so I study that first and foremost but just That's the blueprint of, like, that nigger, like, he, like, he gave you the real blueprint.

Like, you get on, you take care of niggas, you do what you're supposed to do. You take care of your family, your mother. Like, that thing used to make me, like, I just used to have to just get money to my mama just, like, thinking about that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I retired my mom when I was 16 years old, bro, literally, and they put a lot of pressure on me. I told my mama stopped working when I was 16. She never worked since. I'm taking care of her, my aunties, my whole family since I was 16.

That's a lot of pressure. That's a hell of a pressure, a lot of pressure. But how do you, now, one more question. I was going to say, so now you're the meek mill for a lot of these younger artists. So what do you show them to show them that they can do it? What do you do different? Because, you know, you got a lot of kids watching you, they want to be herbal. For sure.

Like, for me is, I just try to, like, what's the word? Like, you got to, like, show them. Like, what meek did for real, like, show them in a good example. Tangible. You just got to show them. like the thing with me that I feel like make a difference a lot is I let people see me in a physical like you got to see it like had conversations like seeing it's believing you feel I'm saying like you know you could do this when you could actually get in front of

somebody like me growing up I never seen nobody that I looked up to and I wanted to be like in front of me talking to me I'm saying like I just had to had a mind power like I could do it I'm gonna do it you know I'm saying like and it happened for me and when I got a certain age like 19, 28, like those ages when I started traveling and having conversations with people that I looked up to. But like 14, 15, 16, them years really matter where it's like, you know what I'm saying?

I try to be the person where I just go back and do certain things and go touch the community and, you know what I'm saying? Tell them that they could really make it. Like, this shit is nothing for real. But like, and I ain't going to say it's nothing. Like, it's, it's, it's, a task for sure it's hard but it's easy at the same time all you got to do is wake up and strive

to go get it and want to do it and believe that you could do it you just got to have a vision you feel i'm saying like and and when i go look at like these kids and be going to talk and have conversations like they got the same power that i got like they really got something in them they just don't think it's possible this shit is really possible like they when you wake up and all you got is this four block radius and you know hood and the shit that you're dealing with every day you think that's your life but it's like it's so much outside of that all you gotta know is how to

break that cycle and you know what I'm saying like that's the thing with me like I feel like that's what make a difference in why people like believe in me because I let them touch me I let them you know what I'm saying pause like you know what I go see the people I'm thinking about something now and you made me think about it when you said you mean rapping since you was 19 because I can remember like your first

16 16 16 So I can remember your first early breakfast club interviews, right? But then it started getting me thinking about all of these artists we've seen from Chicago that have come through here the past 15 years. You talk about what's possible. Man, you are proof that surviving is possible. Chief Keith is proof that surviving is possible. For sure.

So, so definitely. You know what I mean? People like, Dirk that's locked up. People like Vaughn, that's no longer here. Plenty other artists we probably interviewed from Chicago. Yeah, for sure. How does that feel? It feel great, man.

You know, and I'm going to say this again. Again, I'm a shout makeout real quick because he just told me the other day and it's like he told me this before but him telling me the other day it's just like it feels different a different feeling to him saying

it's like he's like man when you're the chosen one it's certain things that just affect you differently you know what I'm saying like and I learned that from the streets like I didn't bump my head so many times and did so much and been arrested and fell off

and came back or whatever the case may be, you know what I'm saying? It's like when you do certain things, God just punish you differently because you can't get away with that, you know what I'm saying? Like, you would see somebody else doing it. Like, oh, he did it,

and you can't do that because God got a different path for you. And, like, surviving in Chicago, just making it out of the streets alone is a blessing. Like, it's literally like, I'd be seeing some of my homies and certain people that just like,

but and I understand it other people don't get it like it's certain people where you just like you just like wash your hands with everything I know certain niggas that was real menaces in the streets that don't do nothing but just be at home with their girl

and their kids now because they just want peace like damn I made it out this shit I can't believe I'm still alive like a lot of people never experienced life to that capacity where they're just grateful that they're alive that they still here you feel I'm saying and it's a lot of people

when they come to surviving you got to make decisions and it got to be calculated and it's a lot of people that's just raised off survival where you would do anything it's a difference like when you survive and you

just raised off survival like I'm trying to explain that with like it's certain people where if you just like survival was your first instinct you would do anything that's right you would kill your closest friend you would snitch robbed

steal from your mama, your grandma. And you got to understand it's like, that's just life. It's certain people who don't know nothing else. They was raised off a survival. Their mother and father raised them off of survival. So it's like a lot of people don't understand that, you know what I'm saying? It's just me being here today.

I try to like, I think that's one of the reasons why like I probably got, took advantage of so much because I understand both sides of the fence and I try to get everybody the benefit of the doubt, you know what I'm saying? Like, I try to think about putting myself in other people's shoes before I make a decision, if I'm saying? Like I always, before I do anything,

I always think about the consequences, repercussions, everything. So if I do something to anybody or do anything, I thought about it so many times I'm comfortable with have it play out, you know what I'm. saying and like you like it's only certain people that think like that especially in life and coming from Chicago you got to think about both sides of the fence it's certain people that think a lot and it's certain people that don't think at all you feel me and this shit like it's a blessing to be here for sure for sure because I've seen a lot I experienced a lot I seen a lot of

death and um I just come from one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago like one of the most poverty struck in neighborhoods where it's like I was a kid and people used to like A lady walked, I think I said this before, on a breakfast club interview when I was in Shorty, like, a lady walked up on me. I'm waiting on my mom. She's coming from the lingerie. A lady walked up on me, like, you got some C? I'm like, like, what? I'm like, what?

She's like, you got some C? She asked for crack. I'm like 9 years old. I'm like 9, 10, waiting on my mom when I'm coming to house. She's like, you got some C? I'm like, what? Yeah. She asked me if I had crack, literally a kid at 3 in the morning, I'm outside, because.

That's, that's, it's nine-year-old selling crack For real, for real, like So when did you get some to sell? Uh, Jesus. I'm just, fuck, that's a statue of limitations with this shit, for real. Like, involved, turn. I didn't sold crack, I didn't sold some crack. It's a statue of limitations, for sure.

But I always been one of them kids is like, I just wanted to get money. I knew how to get money early on, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I used to do shit to just get fly. Like, get, fresh and shit you know what I'm saying like and I'm blessed that I didn't have to do it for long you feel me like I started really making money off music at 16 years old that's great but I was outside too for sure what was the first record you made money off was it

um wasn't the Nicki record right was Chicago uh the first record I actually like when we started making money like after kill shit came out yeah kill shit yeah I was gonna ask with uh you know he He mentioned Sosa, he mentioned Vaughn, mentioned Dirk. Have you spoke to Dirk? Yeah, yeah, I spoke to Smirk. I told the Dirk probably like a month or two ago. How's he doing? Yeah, he's doing good, for sure.

Like, mentally, and that's the thing about Smirk. If you know him, you know he good. That nigg is really a real discipline. Mentally strong nigger, for real, for real. Like, this shit just, like, he just, like, this is just a part of his journey. like he know he coming from under this shit we all know he coming from under this shit

you know what I'm saying but like he's he one of them type of niggas like he never going to lose itself all he doing is praying talking to his family like connecting with God you know what I'm saying like shit like that and yeah smirk definitely good I spoke to him I sent them like a little snippet

of music that I'm putting out and the music that I was saying his name in shit like that you feel I'm saying it's my brother yeah really smirk so for little herb right do you

are you getting personal like are we hearing the pain because you have been through a lot you said you lost your friends and then got rest of your dad so you know what I'm saying

you've been through a lot of shit yeah so are we getting the personal we're getting the pain on this too definitely I'm speaking about like everything I feel like I've I covered a lot in this album yeah

I'm really talking about a lot a lot a lot of lot and it makes me feel good though you know what I'm saying like it's like rap always been a form of like therapy for me you know what I'm saying so it's like certain I don't really like when I'm in the studio I just rap and just like I got to a point in my life in my career where I don't think about like how people going to receive it like how the world going to receive it have my

family going to receive it or whatever I just speak about whatever is on my mind and go from there you know what I'm saying and that's how I picked the records you feel I'm saying like and I don't I'm saying that to say like I don't really realize all the shit I'm talking about and what I cover until I'm hearing it like on the speaker you know what I'm saying like I just go in the studio and rap and like hear it a week later or two weeks later like damn I just said some shit like yeah no for sure like that this album is and you know artists say this all the time I feel like I always feel like this but like you would say like oh yeah it's one of my best projects and like

I don't I'm not even going to say this my best project or my best body of work I really don't feel like it's my best body of work but I just feel like it's my best era of rap I feel like I'm rapping better than I ever rap before like however they receive it or whoever feel like this project better than this one or not

like I just know for a fact I'm rapping so good and I gave it my whole for sure how therapeutic was this album though in regards to your grieving process because I hear you mention your brother a lot especially on giving y'all how did that help um i ain't gonna lie that i've been dealing with deaths since i was a kid bro like i lost i started losing friends when i was like 14 years old you know like and and i'm

talking about that i'm touching on that in my out of my project but you got to really like realize i'm 30 years old i've been losing people i love for 15 years like and still managing to wake up and make it happen and BG Herbo and take pictures and smile for the fans like I really didn't lost some of my best friends

and had to go do a show that same day you know what I'm saying like my homie cap dad 2015 I had to perform in front of 10,000 people just had to find an Emmy a lot of people can't do that

a lot of people like man I just lost my homie fuck this shit I'm gonna go spin like I wanted to go do the show so it's like I feel like I'm really destined for this shit I chose my own destiny

I chose my own path And I'm saying that Like For me to experience All of that death And feel like I was numb to it When my little brother died It changed my life

That was some of the worst pain That I ever felt in my life Ever Like I could never I never could fathom And I'm a street nigga Like when I walk out When I walk out the house

I feel like I'm going to die Like you know Like I really feel like that And that's what give me home You know what I'm saying Like every step, every move that I take is calculated. And I never felt like he was going to die. You know what I'm saying?

Like, no bullshit. I never ever think like him. Hell no. I just, I never thought he was going to die. Every day I wake up, I really feel like I'm a die. I feel like somebody will do something to me. And that's just the life I live. And that's just.

You still feel like that? Because I remember the last time you said you feel like that. You said you were going to therapy to help you. Yeah. It helped me with it. That's PTSD. It helped me with it. But like, nah, hell no.

And I'm glad that even going through therapy and, like, growing and healing the way that I've healed in my life, I'm kind of glad that I never lost that edge, for real, because that's how I protect myself. That's how I protect my children. That's how I make sure I get back home, you feel I'm saying? And I'm not out here thugging. I ain't wild and I ain't doing no crazy shit. Some days I leave the house and it just be just me by myself, no security, nothing. but I'm still on point I'm still watching my back

I'm still aware of my surroundings you feel I'm saying so it's like I'm glad that I never lost that edge for real for real and when like going back to what you know what I'm saying what you said Shalamein like when I when my little brother died

I lost myself like I became an alcoholic like a badass alcoholic I never used to drink bro I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day Jesus like every day by myself like and

my girl was pregnant when he died you feel me like and I was like I was trying to like not be that weak around her you feel me because she she know I didn't been through shit like she didn't been around me and I didn't lost homies you know what I'm saying like

and she used to like say shit like snap out of it like you feel me like she used to like say it but it's like I can't it was just so hard for me I really couldn't for real like I used to have to leave the house just to go cry like swear to God just go get in the car and just cry for an hour straight because I ain't want to do that in front of her.

And I felt like I should have. I should have, I should have. But I was like, I don't know, I just. And when she said snap out of it, what does she mean? Like, not snap out of the grief, snap out of the hill and snap out of the crashing out. Drinking every day and wanting to go to the club and just feel something because I really can't feel nothing.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that was like, that's what she used to tell me to snap out of. And it was like, it was hard, man. I ain't gonna lie. Did people in your family try to, like, blame you? Because, you know, for whatever reason, when you're the person that made it, when something bad go happen,

they feel like your success and your money could have kept that person from being in that situation. Nah, not really, for real, for real. Like, honestly, they didn't. And that was, like, the biggest blessing. Nobody ever blamed me for real, for real. And I had a conversation with my grandma, and I said this when I did

this shit with Shannon Sharp I just did an interview with him and I had a conversation with my grandma and she made me it was one of the conversations that made me snap out of drinking and crashing out because she's like man I already lost him

I'm not going to lose you to this shit you feel I'm saying and she didn't blame me but like it was like my little brother was real like good nigger a solid nigga and I know for a fact he got killed because somebody wanted to hurt

me for sure it wasn't my fault but she like you gotta do it the right way like if you feel like like no everybody we grieve and we all going through the same shit but you can't grieve like that like you gotta go

make it like you gotta make this shit happen for him because it's like he doesn't not from the dying vain you feel me like that was the conversation that she heard with me and that shit just turned me up and one of the last conversations I swear of God my brother died at

11 a.m. or some shit we was texting at 4 or 5 in the morning and my last conversation with him was just like I don't want to do nothing to see you in like I ain't never ask you for nothing like he never really asked me for no money everything I ever gave him everything we ever did was just like a bonus like that nigga never asked me for no money

He never asked me, like, give me this, buy me this, put me on, do this, do that. And he's been with me every step of the way. You feel him? He just enjoyed the fruits of my labor. That nigga literally never asked me for no money ever in life. And our last conversation was, where I just want to see you in. Like, I just want you to do this shit. And we was talking back and forth, and I swear to God, the next morning, that nigga died.

So were you blaming yourself? That's why you was trying to escape? Yeah, for sure. And when did you stop blaming yourself? I was definitely blamed myself because I just felt like And I used to have these conversations with him Like I used to really tell him

And that's the reason why I had to go back And think and reflect Because I used to tell that nigga like Bro, move to LA Like he got kids just like I got kids I used to really tell that nigga like man Go back and take care of them Every now and then

Or do whatever you need to do Send that shit like bro Just come with me please Like I used to have that conversation with him Like bro just come to LA Move to LA Like please just come out here You feel I'm saying

like because I know what that shit like bro like you know what I'm saying like I used to I used to talk to that nigga and be like bro just stop going back for real for real because I'm I'm thinking about that shit like he he my brother was in the streets but I feel like he was just naive to the fact like he really like like I said like I used to leave out the house and feel like I'm a die every day he didn't have that mindset he's more optimistic he didn't think like that you feel me I used to think like that and it scared me like I hate to see somebody I love walking like man this nigga could die right you feel i'm saying and i was blaming myself in a way because i just felt like i should

well i could have i ain't gonna say i should have like i felt like i could have just like changed everybody life by force and i you can't do that you can't feel like you could save everybody you know what i'm saying like and i stopped blame myself when i just realized that like i realized like you like it was nothing i could do for real like i used to really i used to think like That's why I was so fucked up because I felt like even me being G Herbo being an artist being a star

I wish I was really with him when that shit happened because it wouldn't have happened like that like I would have put my life on the line I would have put everything on the line 1,000% like the scenario on how he died I feel like if I was

you can't feel like that because you know you're thinking about every scenario like I'm thinking like if it was me in there like it probably wouldn't happen like that I would have this way but you don't know

like you know what I'm saying God is that like he's he is the person who control your destiny and say how like shit happened but I'm thinking about that and it's like I really used to like really wish I was with him like I just really feel like I wish like still to this day I really wish I just would have been there like because I feel like it wouldn't happen that way but how do you stop yourself crashing out right like we seen it with gilly and the bad one of the worst things about the internet is the internet to make you you you lose yourself right yeah they'll trick you into taking you off the street

How did you say, you know what? I'm just going to stay focused and grieve my brother but still focus on my family. Because a lot of times people are like, now I got to get my get back. I got to do this. I got to do that.

And it puts you in a worse situation. What I said on the interview I just did with Gilly. It's like, naturally, it's like every action deserve a reaction. And I come from a place where it's like, you got to react. Certain shit you do, like even if you like,

some shit might happen to you today and you make it home when you get in the house you're thinking about what the people going to say like what the hood going to say when I come back I gotta do something you feel I'm saying and I'm one of them niggas like me personally if I go to sleep

like with it on my mind if I'm thinking about it all day I'm going to have to do something like for real for real like if that shit stay on my brain and I think about it three times four times five times that's when I feel like is eligible for me to not crash out but react because I'm never going to crash out

because if I was, I feel like the definition of when people say like crash out is when you react right then off emotion. That's a crash out, you know what I'm saying? Like whatever I do to you, if I didn't thought about this shit and calculated my steps and whatever consequences happen behind that, that's not a crash out because I'm okay with what happens.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and for me, like how I stopped myself from doing that, it's like certain shit that's not worth it like i know for sure i know my power i know what i could do you know what i'm saying it's like certain shit is it's like i'm automatically like not a person that like confrontation i hate confrontation because i only know how to deal with it one or two ways somebody got to fight or die or something you know what i'm saying like i only know how to approach it that way like i'm not a person that could have a two hour long conversation about something and get to the bottom of it that's just not me so i avoid it

every chance I could get you feel I'm saying so it's like just you got to know yourself you got to know like you you got to know when people say things or try to push your buttons and just let them have it like I don't care about nobody saying I'm a punk or nobody saying I'm a bitch or none of that type of shit and I used to for sure you feel I'm saying but it's like at this point I just think about my kids like literally that's the main reason why I don't do crazy shit because I think about my kids it's like my kids don't understand what I got going on you know what I'm saying my kids don't understand if I end up in jail they're gonna be like what the fuck my daddy go to jail and I'm I'm I know what put me in jail you know what I'm saying like I know what got me there I know what I did but a lot of times people

don't explain that to their kids you feel I'm saying like and being a father like you got to be transparent as with your kids like with shit like they're like if you make a crazy decision a life change a decision you got to explain that to your kids yeah for real for real so they don't make the decision so they understand why my dad not coming home all that type of shit so i just that's a type of confrontation that i avoid as well like i just think about my children bro like a lot of shit like when you had kids like it's a lot of shit that you would do that when you had kids like hell no i ain't anything about doing that shit no for sure i want to go back to one thing you said in regards to how you react to death because you know staying busy as a response to trauma yeah right

and we saw that in real time if you don't mind me bringing this up. Like, people don't know the day your father passed, God bless the day. I came here. You were scheduled to do a breakfast club interview. You came in the studio and still wanted to do it. Like, bro, go home. Like, what the hell?

And I love you forever for that because I really was here to do this shit and it's like that's the thing. Like, I'm so used to deaf and used to shit. It's like, I didn't even process it for real. Like, I came here because it's like I really was in my head trying to forget that my dad is dead but I gotta like understand it

I gotta know like yeah my father's just died today I need to process that like and you had just got the news while you was in the car on the way here yeah yeah that's correct my dad was in the hospital I knew he was sick and I found out he died and I just came here I don't know I just like

I don't even like you had to tell G Herbal go home like Giahermo what are you doing we're not doing no enemy Yeah, no, he told me like, bro, just go home. Like, just leave, bro, for real, for real. And what was the rest of that day? Like, what did you do? Did you reflect on it?

Were you afraid to even face it? I was afraid. I was afraid because, like, when you lose a parent, that's shit different. For real, for real. And my dad, like, I didn't have an absent father. Like, my father had been living with me my entire life. Like, my mother and my dad been together 40 years. For real, for real.

And, like, and I think I was just trying to, like, not feel it, like, not process it. like not process it like you know what I'm saying I was just like I bet let me just do it and like that's the that's the problem like that's the thing like you feel like all right let me just do it and push through this and this my job this my life like you gotta put that shit to the side sometimes when you're going through things like that you feel I'm saying and the rest of that day for me was really just like I was scared like I ain't want to call my mama I ain't want to talk to my sister

it took me so long to just ask my sister are you okay how you doing that shit was hard for real for real like it was super hard Because you weren't okay. Yeah, like, I was scared to, like, had them conversations with her. Like, how are you feeling? You know what I'm saying? And even my mom, like, I keep my mom close to me, me, and my mom like this, you feel me.

And I know it, like, I could see it. I know she was not okay. And I used to avoid them conversations, you know what I'm saying? Like, she would bring stuff up and, like, send me pictures and all that shit. Like, it was, it was like, I didn't want to look at pictures of my dad for a long time. because it made me cry you're like I ain't like

and I'm not I'm like I'd have been in therapy I'm a person that's not like shy from my emotions like I'm in tune my emotions all of that

but just like it was hard because like for me just I just thought he had more time like I just wanted him to be here so I wasn't trying to like live in reality

because I'm still I was still grieving my little brother yeah you know what I'm saying like so when that happened it was just like I didn't want to believe that my dad was dead because I'd be on the road sometimes I go eight months without seeing my

pops so it's like you feel me like eight nine months without seeing them at all sometimes I go months without talking to him so I was trying to like tap into that like you feel me like let me just get in that mentality like he like he here but you know what I'm saying but he my my pop's really like that shit crazy I think about that shit every day like man they really died on me and it's crazy like that's why like I pray every day like I pray every day Like, I pray so much because my pops, my last conversation with him, my dad died the day after his birthday. Like, my birthday, October 8th, my dad birthday, October 16th, he died on 17th.

And my last conversation with him, when I called him, I said, happy birthday. I said, man, you're on your way, boy, you're getting old. Like, I'm like, you're getting old, boy. And he died. Like, that was the last thing I said to my pops. Like, boy, you're on your way, boy, you're about to be 70. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're getting old.

That nigger stopped getting old. So, that shit crazy. Like, nigga, you said that I was on my way. Yeah, I hope so. I want them to. Nah, you haven't checked. I want them to. I hope he's telling me that the night.

Like, that should have given me a lot of comfort, for real, for real. Is it hard to write about? I mean, like I said, you write about your brother now. Yeah. But do you think your brother would pass three years ago? Five. Five, okay, five years. So is it hard, it's hard to put that on paper right now?

In a way, like, only, like, I'll just, like, for sure. Like, in a way, I just rap about, like, my pop's passing I never like I didn't get all the way like I didn't made songs like paying homage to my brother like give it all that song

is about my brother and made songs just talking about how I felt that day like I didn't make multiple songs about my brother dying like I ain't did that for my pop shit all I said on wax for real

is just like my dad did like I never spoke about the emotions how I felt none of that so yeah it is definitely tough because I don't know I feel like mentally or just where I'm at in life

I ain't been able to tap into that pain yet Do you make it a conscious effort not to take it out on your girl right And the reason I say that is A lot of times when we deal with things The only person we do really get a chance to talk to is your girl Your fiance and your wife Do you make it a conscious effort

When you talk about the death, your brother Everything that's going on in the streets, your father Do you make it that effort not to do it? No now I talk to her about everything Like whatever emotion I'm feeling I bring it to her in a way where I just want her to understand it Like I used to bring it to her

Where she just felt my pain in a fucked up way Because I was mentally just not there I'm arguing And like I just said earlier in the interview Like I'm not confrontational So every day I'm trying to find it in me To not crash out on somebody So she might say the smallest thing

And it triggered me And we start arguing and doing goofy shit When it's like That's stupid It was silly Like I really should just tell her like I should tell her what I'm feeling and what I'm going through and I feel like she gave me grace because when my little brother died she knew that shit tore me apart like

she understood it so it's like she's just like just let me get away with murder for real like I used to come home and arguing not come home sometimes like I really used to purposely not come home because I'm just fucked up in the head like I just slept in my car in the garage all type of shit just because I just didn't want to go up there and feel that shit because like I said when my little brother died she was pregnant so she's fully emotions too yeah she got a pregnant thing she went on you know yeah so it's like like like like now I definitely make it like like a thing like making my business to not put that on her and to communicate with her like communication is key and she is a communicator like she's going to say what

she's going to say what she feel how she feel like she's not holding nothing back and as a man i i ain't never really experienced that for real to be honest like i ain't never had to really like to sit down and talk you feel me like she'll really make me sit down and talk about this shit and i appreciate that though from her and her pops told me some real shit i ain't gonna allow her dad like me and her pops like this and sometimes she don't even like it because her dad going to tell me shit that's like beneficial to me

and might not be beneficial to her. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's that man to man though. Yeah, yeah. So like, he told me some real shit. That nigga told me one day,

he said, bro, whatever the fuck you got going on leave that shit at the doormat. Before you walk in a house, bro, walk in a house with peace. Walk in a house like you want to go in the house and see your girl and talk to your girl

and be with your kids. You know what I'm saying? And that shit helped me. I swear to God, like, I literally, some days I just go and walk in the house and I look at the door mat, like, literally like, boy, going this motherfucker and be happy. That's right. No matter what's going on, because you got to be grateful to make it in the house. That nigga told me that shit, I swear to God, it changed my whole perspective.

Like, whatever you got going on, however your day went, leave that shit at the concrete before you walk in the house. And that shit helped me. I know you was happy when Ari and Taina got cool. I know, because after the long, back and forth. and the beef and stuff how did that make you feel to see that um it made me feel great like amazing for real yeah and nothing to do with that no nothing okay nothing at all and and the reason why it happened is because you don't like you don't really play the middle you just play right and wrong

yeah you know what I'm saying like you don't play the middle you feel I'm saying like I'm not going like shy away from my love for my woman I'm not going to shy away from my love for my son-mom you feel me like yeah just like I just want everybody to be a family

and you said we're not a blended family we're a family yeah yeah yeah everybody can call each other and I've seen that shit yeah yeah I've seen people say like

oh I love a blended family it's like it's just a family yeah yeah like fuck the blended shit I love that and you're a money bag did a song together

yeah yeah yeah I love that too how did that come about um we was like in Atlanta I was in Atlanta for my son game

and I was talking about my show. Like the Swerve and Fran shit, I was talking about it and I was on the phone with bag at the time. I'm like, man, let me holler at him. Let me holler. Like, you know what you feel? I was talking to, I'm like, man,

I'm trying to bring you out for this shit. You feel me? And he's like, all right, bad, we need to do some shit real quick. I'm going to send you something. Send it back. We won't drop this shit before the show. This was like, we had like a two-week deadline or some shit. Like, we did that shit quick. We sent this song. No matter of fact, I don't even think he sent the song tripping.

Like, we need to do some shit. We was in L.A. I pulled up on him. We did the song together. And then he, like, structured it, put the song together, then sent it. And I finished the song. He's like, all right, bet we're going to shoot this shit on. I think my show was on the 26 or some shit like that.

We shot the video on the 20th. Put that shit right out. And I brought him out to the song. So it's like, yeah, he put that play together. That was hard. It's a vibe too. You said y'all rushed and did it? Yeah.

And we're still about that shit. We definitely rushed and did it. Like, all that shit was strategic for sure. Did y'all have any conversations, you know, about the relationship, but y'all never even had to do that? No, hell no. We only got to do that, bro. Like, me and him ain't never had no, like, differences.

Like, it was never no confusion and none of that type of shit, like, at all. Like, we ain't got to talk about that because it's just, it just is what it is. I want to ask one more question about just the grieving process, and I'll put a button on it. How have you helped Funny Marco through his grieving process? Because you killed him on his show. It's still impacting him. He was just here. He was just here talking about him.

He was literally just here. When was that? Last week. Can you tell me what he said? What the fuck did he say? It hurt him and he's learning from it and he grew from it and he had to learn to have, you know, thicker skin because of it. Like, do you ever think about how you affected funny Marco negatively?

Yeah, I did. I'm not going to lie. I did. But at the same time, I did it because, and I'm, and Marco, my man. like me and him still talk we didn't I didn't apologize to him about this shit and it's like it's like what I said what happened and the watch come out on the rinse like Marco's a troll he he hurt people feelings every single day and they call me there to hurt his feelings I swear to God they literally call me there like me and Southside we was drunk and all this shit for sure

like we I think the way we did it just came off a little aggressive because how we are it's nature like we're street niggins you know what I'm saying like I feel like he was a little intimidated when we did it right but we wasn't going to do nothing too we were trying to scam they literally called us there and said do whatever troll him yeah heard him disrespect them talk about them I'm sorry I'm not going to say disrespect him yeah talk about them do whatever the way he do people yeah they told us to flip the script but he didn't know that I don't think he didn't know so his team said to do his team told us to do that yeah what we said He said he needed to be more prepared?

What did he say? I forgot the other day when he was here. Now, he said he should have trolled back. Yeah, he should have been so intimidated. He should have, he didn't know. That's what he posted did. He posed a troll back and just,

it would have been a totally different experience. They think we came on there and shit it on him and we wasn't doing that. We was really having fun. We fuck with bro. But he wasn't like ready for a nigga to come and do that to him. And when we left, his team was like,

oh, we love it. It's going to be. He's so great. They called and asked me and Southside, do we want our own show? I swear to God. Wow.

Like, y'all want your own show? We're like, man, hell no, we don't do that. We don't give a fuck about having our own show. We just did it. Like, they literally called us and asked us, did we want a show?

Did we want all this shit? Like, you feel me? And I'm like, no. But we really had fun that night. I ain't going to lie. Right, of course you. Yeah.

We didn't think that it was going like had that effect. Like, had that effect on the world and on him too. So, like, shout out of funny Margo, man I fuck with you like and I told him this though like I was like bro man nigga you know we fuck with you for real

you know what I'm saying but like we definitely violated I ain't gonna like like he said he used to just one person he said he was two of y'all both of y'all was coming out we violated man I apologize again you got the song thank me how important is to thank yourself man

very very important man and I feel like I didn't really realize that until I did that record like you gotta think yourself and congratulate yourself you feel I'm saying because I'm one of them type of people that I really, as soon as I drop a project, so as I do anything

I'll be on to the next shit. I don't even listen to like if I used to be that artist like soon as my album dropped on Friday, Saturday I'm playing unreleased music that I just worked on and you got a living like you got to grasp on until you got living and went legit help me do that

like me having that type of big record and everybody just like congratulating me and just like telling me this record is this and you know what I'm saying this is crazy and you got this moment and you the hottest right now like you feel I'm so I never in my career nobody never walked up on me but you the hottest out of everybody you feel me niggas told me I'm their favorite rapper like yeah you but niggas walk up to me now and be like you're the one you're the top dog and I ain't never felt that before I'm saying so it's like um you got to like thank yourself and you got

to like like live in in it you feel me like a lot of times and I said it is already a lot of rooms I didn't used to be in them bitches for real like mentally I was really somewhere else like I really forgot a lot of my life and a lot of my career and a lot of relationships and a lot of people that I met that was important because mentally I'm just thinking about some whole other shit so it's like you got to grasp into it and be grateful for what you have so that's like thank me that record like I had to deep like dig deep into just like being grateful for what I got and thinking myself and just that I got this far like I was able to change my circumstances my family circumstances creative family have kids like and all this shit was kind of strategic

like I was I was one of the niggas like I wasn't having no children until I got some money and got out the streets I just couldn't do it like for real for real like I could would have probably had 10 kids already, you know what I'm saying? But I was just the type of nigger that I'm not doing that shit until I'm able to really, like, raise my kids and focus on my kids or find a woman that I cared about enough to create a family with them. So I'm saying? And when I think about that type of shit, just being grateful that I was able to, like, create

life for real, for real, for real, like, you know what I'm saying? So it's very important to thank yourself, and that's a real important record for sure, for sure. Are you still struggling with a nightmare? Because on one chance, you say you're dealing with sleep paralysis. Yeah. You know, you'd be having nightmares. You still doing that shit bad, bro. I ain't going to lie.

I know in the South we say that's the hag riding you. What? When you have the sleep paralysis, when you can't, you... Your eyes are open and you feel like you're awake. What you mean? Like hag. The hag is a spiritual creature, maybe evil, depending on who you ask. But it haunt you.

I definitely believe that. And I'm very spiritual, for sure. And I struggle with sleep a lot, like, sleep paralysis. I have sleep paralysis a lot, nightmares a lot. Like, sometimes my girl just wake me up and, like, you feel me? Like, I sweating my sleep. Like, I ain't gonna lie. I still got a lot of healing to do.

Like, it's a point where I say this to my girl a lot of times. She think I'll be joking. And that's why you do this shit. Like, that's why you get me. money and you do the shit you're doing so you could chill like I really want to be able to chill and just sleep and relax and heal and heal like it's a point of my life I want to enjoy my life I ain't like I'm trying to get enough money to quit for real for real like when artists were like nigga be like oh yeah you fell off they're gonna say that shit to death when it's come to me

because I'm stopping this shit I'm going to enjoy my family I'm enjoying my kids because I really can't sleep some nights like for real three four days ago I woke up every every single hour I told my girl she was sleep she's sleeping like a baby I woke up every hour because I had five six nightmares I can't sleep this shit is fucked up for me you feel me and I still wake up and do the breakfast club I still go do my shows I still go to the studio like if I'm saying I still try to show up so it's going to be a point of my life in my career while I'm quitting this shit I need to be able to take care everybody and go to sleep just chill and just go vacation and be with my family.

Like, I'm G-Herbo. I only been to three, four countries. I have not seen the world. I want to see this shit. But you're going to start seeing it now because they're going to start booking you like crazy. Damn right. You're going to see.

I don't want to say the hag feeds off the energy of the sleeping victims. So it steals their breath and they wear their skin as a disguise. Yeah. So I use that, yeah. But I've seen a lot of death, bro. You know how many dead bodies I've seen?

A lot. Like, I've seen my friends die a lot. You ever thought about getting saved? No, not really To be honest Not really I haven't I've been thinking about it lately

I'm not But I've been thinking about it Yeah for sure Why are you looking at me like that Because you've been thinking about Getting saved but you're not No I mean I'm not saved Oh no I know you're not saved

Yeah he didn't say he's not doing it I've been thinking about it Right I just wanted it because I don't know I'm just always looking for different ways To find peace Yeah for sure I definitely

I need it and my like my biggest thing like what bringing me peace for real is just being around my kids I swear to God when I be home like and my girl say that and I like seeing little memes and shit like

when you're comfortable at comfort that's when you really sleep I like I just said I got sleep pro I don't sleep but sometimes like I could come home like when I'm on a road that just that one night of sleep be everything for me like for real for real like I get home and be with my girl

on the couch and be with my kids and I just fall asleep, bro. That shit just brings me so much comfort and peace. Your son be like, you always sleeping. All you do is sleep. My kids have to say the same thing. Oh, you do is sleep, but that's the best time. You feel more comfortable at home.

You want to get it to something off the album? What you want to hear off the album, man? Let's play Give It All. It's one of my favorite songs for why not. We appreciate you for joining this, brother. Absolutely. Thank you so much. I do have one last question. Before you do that chat, yeah, we all live. So if you got questions for G. We'll let us know now. Oh, it's too late in out, chat.

Let's get it, chat. But hurry up. I wanted to ask you about Chicago, right? It built you, but it also caused you so much pain. Yeah. What's your relationship with the city now? It's like, it's crazy. I love Chicago so much, and I just had this conversation with Mike yesterday.

He's like, bro, we about to neglect that bitch. Like, we're not even going there on tour or nothing. Like, they got to really miss you for real, for it, because I go there so much, and I be feeling comfortable because it just is home for me you know what I'm saying like and I still of course like I already you know I'm going to be on my own my head on swivel regardless you know I'm saying I'm always take precaution and do all of that my relationship with Chicago is my mother won't leave you know what I'm saying like she won't leave so it's like my heart is still there

like not even some days a lot of days I go to Chicago and I don't see my mom because she hang with me in LA like she'd be with me out of that but my mom but my mom heart still in Chicago my mom there my auntie's there my grandmother there like my friends there so I go there and I enjoy myself I go to restaurants I do this and like I really move in Chicago like probably nobody else for real for it's not many artists in Chicago especially as big as I am at my level that go outside and do the shit that I do in Chicago I go to clubs every time I'm there I go to restaurants like I don't sit in my hotel I go outside in Chicago and I just did that big ass comment

concert and had all them artists there and I went to three spots after that like they didn't like my team didn't want me to go outside they're saying this in the chat now you'd be everywhere with you definitely love you definitely love me outside for sure like we went to we did the show and I went to three places I went to a bowling alley a club and another club and it was peaceful like it was no nothing like I had everybody I had polo there bad came up outside, Ari came outside, Doug came outside, 21 came outside, everybody came outside. And it's like, that shit really, like, it's smooth. It's dangerous, but Chicago is a great place for sure. The chat said, Chicago love you like they love D. Roles. They say, when you get, when you get another, when we're doing another four minutes of hell? Or when they get another four minutes of hell? I'm going to definitely do it. I ain't going to lie. I'll be saying I'm done, but I definitely, like, that's, that's something that I just

got to do like you know how like like like like like like like like you grisly do the robberies I got to keep doing four minutes of hills for sure all right well we appreciate you for joining us man make sure you pick up herbal album this week skit for her and it's the breakfast club good morning oh no every day I wake up wake up wake you're on finish or y'all done