The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: Jagged Edge Talk 'All Original Parts, Vol. 1,' Diddy, R&B 'Beef,' Car Accident, Music + Tour & More

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

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ladies and gentlemen Jagged Edge welcome you how your brother's doing That's good, man. You'll see y'all in a minute. It's been a minute, man. Growing up a little bit.

That's right. I always like to say this is one of the groups that y'all guys don't break up at all, huh? No, we're not together. But how? We see every R&B group, there's always a breakup. There's always a whole vibe. How do y'all stay so tight? Man, we like each other.

I mean, half the group is us. We love each other. Right, right. But you have these brothers is the one that be fighting. No, no, no, we'd be on the same thing. Absolutely, man. No doubt. I'll find days over with.

You get grown, you know. You're not going to fight no more. Just make the money. And what you never know, though, him. And all of you all of you still are in Atlanta? Yeah, yeah, ATL. All of us. And that's where all you're originally from?

No, me and him originally from Hartford. Connecticut, you all up here. Out of the road, yeah. Shout out of Harvard. Down the street. I always like to start from the beginning when you guys come here So how did y'all guys form the group

For people that don't know How did Jagged Edge form All right Whoever wanted to take this Well Me and my brother Was In the womb

You know what I'm saying Part of the day wasn't But We had this group When we first got to Atlanta You know We was about 15 years old Oh

I don't know why this. I was going to keep on my five. I mean, definitely got to be five. That check, baby. I dropped it out there first. I'm like, this 20 want to go to somebody. So we,

we was in another group when we first got to Atlanta. Not when we first got there, but when we first started singing. And it was two other guys, and we sang at this church picnic. Kyle was at the church picnic. He came to us at the church meeting. He said,

listen, man, I got a group. Why don't y'all drop the other two and come get with it. He didn't have a group. He didn't have a group. But we didn't know that, though. We used to see Kyle around anyway because me and him was basketball players and his cousin was a player on our team.

So we knew each other from that and passing. And then once we actually sat down and talked and we realized he could sing two, we put it together. It was another member at first. And he fizzed without somewhere along the way. And we picked up Wingo and, you know, I mean, been together ever since. Since we've about 15, I know we've been in his group. Now, what did the name come from?

the name came from if y'all remember think back to i think i want to say like 91 92 was a group came out of Atlanta called a few good men they were signed to the face yep so just the name of their their group got me looking at movie titles and during this time i was i happened to be at candy house right and she had all these movies like all these just you know roles of movies and i started looking at the movies and when i seen the movie jagged it it's all my It was like, you jumped out like, hey. You know what I mean? And so I said to them and everybody was like, yeah.

Like not one person pushed back. Everybody was like, yeah, that's a dope man. And this was after y'all were already signed to Sussodaf. So you had a relationship with Candy before? Yes. Only like a year prior to us signing. Okay. And what was the relationship?

Was it just like music stuff? Or like, how did you? We went to school with Candy. They were in high school together. We graduated the same. So when we did our demo, he took it to the Candy House. just playing it forward just like you know getting her approval wasn't even trying to get a deal or nothing she liked it so much she was like she called winger one day like you still in that group

y'all still you're still trying to get a deal he was like yeah so we made the deal with kent if you get us a deal you can manage us that's what it is she got us a deal so she was our first manager once we signed yeah she gets to the money in the business side though how was she as a manager in the early days i mean she was getting her feet with us yeah she didn't know but all I always tell anybody, like, as far as being an active artist and trying to manage, you know, manages somebody's like having kids. Right. You know what I mean?

You got to be up for them, 5.30 phone calls, and it's just a lot. You know what I mean? And also, too, shout out to Tiny, too, because she was just as instrumental. Absolutely. Without Tiny, she was like the direct link to JD on the business side. You know what I mean? So without her, we want to have a social death at the time? Did y'all want to sign a social death at the time?

Was that the goal? Like, that's what y'all wanted to go? I mean, to be honest, we had a couple deals on the train. It was rowdy. Mercury at the time. Remember Mercury? It was rowdy, Mercury, and then Social Deaf came in there

at the end of those offers. And I just think, you know, Candy did what she said, what she was going to do. And that meant a lot, though, so we was going to do it. We said we was going to do it. How instrumental was Germain DePree

with y'all now? Like, do y'all still, like, call him about music, you know, for all the original parts, volume one, I know. I mean, you know, Jermaine, my man, he, that's our guy forever. But, you know, as much as I love Jemain, I hit Jemaine about all kind of shit,

but, you know, it's rough to get Jemann do some shit. Right. I'll be honest with you. If he ain't a part of it, you know what I'm saying? I've had a, I've had a tough time getting his involvement in things that he wasn't really, you know, spearheading. Honestly, Jermaine is why we are writers and producers.

Well, at least producers. We was always writers. Right. But through dealing with him, we're not like, you can't just put us on the backburner. We're not, you know what I mean? You can't tie our hands. You can't, so we figured out how to go make beats ourselves.

You know what I mean? Learn how to play the keys ourselves. Learn how to do this stuff. So he's a big reason why. And I'm not saying in a negative way. Just understanding that it takes more than just one man to stop what we're trying to do. And one thing about us, man, we're not petty.

You know what I'm saying? We did some for us. We kind of respect the blessings. He took a chance with us, man. He took a chance. So we respect the blessing and keep it moving. but we was already a self-contained group. It was already writing.

It was already like, what we're going to wear on the show. So we really didn't need anything but the money, I guess. And the back in the back in the back. We need nothing but everything. But we're self-contained. But yeah, but much love to JD. We just knows a lot of bashing when it comes to. Yeah, no, no.

Yeah, we ain't doing that. And why did you all leave social deaf? and why? We actually, social death, left us. Right. You know, he had a situation with Columbia. They couldn't get on the same pace. So he left and went to, what did he go?

The Ariscer first. Ariscer first, right? So he went to Arista, and Columbia basically told him, like, if you want them, you don't have to pay for a football team. You know what I'm saying? And Jeddy was like, I don't want them that bad. I had to make me. Right.

Yeah, they didn't let them take us and buy off. So we wanted to go, but, you know what I mean? It wasn't in the cars at the time. So when y'all left at that time, that's when it completely stopped. He never said, I'm not writing for y'all producing because y'all weren't on the label at that time. No, we got back together with Jemaine two different times. We went to Def Jam with Jermain, and then we did an album with E2 with Jermain. So, yeah, I mean, we've, you know, the music game in itself is a complicated business.

And I think you know, keeping your relationships tight is something that you have to do but at the same time if you can't get on the same page with somebody you have your own goals and your own dreams and that's what you got to follow you know what I mean? And that's what we did

knowing that you're saying like let's get married and promise and all that like how does that feel to denote it? I just saw a video that went viral where somebody had proposed to that girl and they had a little said I can't have to get married. Did y'all see What are your reactions from the other than it being funny

and they should have picked somebody else like but like knowing that that shit still hit life? It's love. It's an amazing feeling like, you know, we talked about this other day like we definitely didn't get it to be a one hit wonder, right? And we definitely wanted to have a, you know, a career that was, you know, filled with, you know, longevity.

So when you see things like that, you realize you don't hit your mark a little bit, you know what I mean? But we ain't done though, but yeah, It feels good, though. You're all right in 25 years of the J.E. Hartford. Yeah. Let's get married this point. What are some, like, story, like,

because I know you guys have probably been, like, just reminiscing because it's 25 years in celebrating. What are some of the stories that, like, we probably never heard in the making of some of the iconic songs, so let's get married. He can't love you. Like that. Like, Brian, you laughing?

What's it? Oh, sorry. Brandon, sorry. You were close. One of the other things. Honestly, feeling like we got so many stories, but it's like, How many of them is really suitable for TV.

Right. The thing, this goes on TV through 2B though, so it's a little difference like digital. You can say whatever the hell you want on air. Oh, we can cuss cuss. What are these guys? Did you guys like before you a drink? Are you comfortable? No, we could.

I saw in an interview, Beyonce dad, like, threw y'all off of a tour bus. What happened with that? Man, all that'd be a lot. You know, it's so amazing, like, when it has a house. Like, when it happened, somebody said to us, y'all going to be talking about this for the rest of it. And they was, they was damn right. Like, y'all still be talking about it. I know what happened.

So basically, we was on tour with Destiny Child. And at the time, Matthew was our manager. So we was sharing a tour bus, us and Desi Child. We all on one tour bus. How big was that bus? It was good. And so, you know, I think it's probably well documented that Latoya has had different issues with. you know the crew um this particular night

Latoya's mom was on the road miss Pam shout out Miss Pam and Miss Pam obviously had issues with the crew so Matthew called even though he wasn't in the city he called back to the role manager like you know Miss Pam ain't getting on that bus and we was like well we're not leaving her out in the middle

of Louisiana too late in the morning right so she is going to get on the bus that dude had the police called on us had us removed so y'all all get on the bus we all get So, yeah, I mean, but, you know, we just felt like, whatever the issue is, it can't be that serious that you're going to leave somebody out here. Right, and you're not even here. And you're not even here.

It was somebody's mom, man. If it was your mom, right, we'll do it the same way. Come on, man, exactly. We deal with it was right. Hey, man, you know, we're from, I mean, originally, but we're from the South and, you know, we're mama-bole. You feel what I'm saying? So we kind of felt that like, man, we're mama's boys, and we had an obligation, but we wanted to look, Matthew. you.

I didn't get you. By the bathroom at one of your concerts. We're going to add your ass out. So shots out to Matthew, but not going by that bathroom. The story goes so, because you were dating Latavia at the time, Brandon. And then, so she told the story in a radio station. She was saying that you stuck up for the group. Like, you were the one about to go off.

So you was at the bathroom. Well, we all did. But I definitely, I went in the room with the girls. You know, I just seen it. Like I said, like, I said, like, If it was my mother, it would have been worse than that. Like, I would have turned, it would have got nasty and ugly. So I didn't want it to go that far.

So I tried to have a conversation with the girls. I couldn't talk to Matthew. He didn't make himself available. But, you know, I tried to make the other girls who, you know, was in the group with Latoya, you know, supporter. And they all just kind of let me know that they had different issues with Latoya and her mother. And that's why it was this bad. And even to be fair to them, because I talked to Kelly about it. after that. And it got

to a point where she even felt like, well, at this point, it's out of my hands. Once Matthew took control of it, they didn't feel like they even had much of a say anyway, so, you know what I mean? I did want to ask, too, they used to put Pitt 112 against you guys, right? Absolutely. And it was a thing. Was it ever a beef

or was it just always fun? It was Charlemagne did it, man. You know what, man? It was never a real beef, Like, I don't know how many people know this, but them guys, like, brothers, though. Like, out of all the male groups we've been on shows with or just been around

or in our era, I should say, 1-12 was our closest friend. So, yeah, it was never a real beef. But it got a little testy at all the way. At what point in, what happened? What was the reason? Well, he's coming back from a tour we was on, and we was pulling into the city, me and Kyle was together.

And we heard them out of the bus. Y'all kicked them out of the bus. We just heard them on the radio talking some, talking some trash. And me and Kyle just made a B-Line in where they was at. I'll take my brains. I ain't eight braids. I'm there. It was just me and here.

We knew all four ones that. We didn't even care. We just ready to do whatever it had to be done. What did they say that was that bad? It was a lot of remote. V-103, Ryan Cameron. Playing in Hollywood. He was playing in Hollywood.

So you know how old that is. Playing Hollywood. So they was doing that album, I guess, a release. No, it was their album drive. It was their album drive. It was their album drive. They were doing something. They was doing something.

They were doing something. A live remote. They was subliminally talking. And he said, well, you know, 1-12 or the- No, he said this. I remember, I'd never get it. I don't know if Ryan Cameron had asked him the question,

but Q said something like, how could Jagget be the best group? They got two, they only got two lead singers, a cheerleader and a R-R-R-R-R-R-Man. And I said, hey, I'm the R-R-R-R-R-R-R-. Right, that's talking about you.

You're not going to be in that guy went up there on the next thing. Nothing happened. Like, nothing happened about us. Who was supposed to be a cheerleader? Man, that wasn't wrong. I guess it was going to go. I would sleep that day.

I don't know. We didn't wait nobody else. We went straight there. And I honestly think, like, Ryan, because they was trying to put us on tour together. So Ryan was trying to create something to drive the traffic. But you can't do it without telling us.

So he was taking a fist to everything they was doing. We didn't talk shit back really good, you know what I mean? But y'all wouldn't say that when we're in the room no way. So that's the issue, too, right, come on. I mean, because I actually, I was the first person to ever seen that group before. You know what I'm saying? I'm the one to turn them on to their management. They had to do it before us.

You see what I'm saying? So it's almost like, just like Brandon St. He was almost in one, twilight. Yeah, like, they were going to try to put me in there for a seven. They were like, you know what I mean, again. And this was before I was in Jagged Edge. You see what I'm saying? So again, like, we don't need guys since yay high.

But again, so, but like I said, you can't start something without letting us know. And you're like, come on, bro, like, no. That was that era with the fake beef. A lot of people are talking about it. We ain't doing that shit, man. That's probably why they ain't tell y'all because y'all wouldn't have been with that fish.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, sell you're all right. But you feel like as R&B singers, because, I mean, I've seen y'all go crazy turn a lot of times. Do y'all feel like as an R&B singing you think people take out as soft and sometimes you've got to prove yourself.

They can take a high on their one ride. I said you fuck around and find out. They said you're fucking around and find out. Your head's going to get jumped. You get one of a bus. Your ass getting jumped. But pretty much. That's a love.

And I talk about this sometime, you know, like, that stigma to me is play. No one's played out. Number two, I don't know them R&B niggas who y'all be talking about. Who is them niggas? I don't know who they are. All we do is, I see all get it in.

I don't know. Go go crazy. Come on, man. Come on, yeah. He's a martial artist. He may, like, fight? Yes. No, he's a lot of, man.

I see, of course, we know Trey. Come on, definitely. We know crazy-ass Chris. Come on. Like, every arm, he person, don't. Hey, G. Gene Y. Jay.

Pleasure P. Everybody you can thank her who I really know. Yeah, bro. I don't know them niggas who they be talking about. It's not going to be no easy win. And what it is, we're from the same places. We grew up with around the same. Y'all, he grew up in the same.

B-Hood. Where is this grew up in the hook? What's all the B-Hood at? How often do people bring up the the Cisco fight? Gosh. That one was right. He spared that man.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, because that's my man. Because, you know, we're from Baltimore and shit, so when the fuck, what happened? I don't know. They were in the dress room messing around. He didn't put that boy in head. Y'all know Cisco.

You're the back for the boy, your ass. I think he tried to do some flips in there. Here we were you trying to do something about how you say you up top, I had to son him, had to son of him son of him, son. It wasn't about nothing. It wasn't about messing around. Yeah, right, and it ended up getting, you know, they'll put out how you play to this time.

And it ended up, I guess he ended up getting serious. Cowles is the kind of playing. He said he was, wait. Yeah, yeah, he was getting, well, well, he was actually, I was chilling. Right. And I ain't, I ain't, I ain't fin to do all. I know I wasn't the aggressor.

But I won't with the bullshit either. Like, hey, man, chill out. And if you can, it's on the video. Right, chill out. If you can see, I'm like, yo man, chill out. And he was trying to like, oh, man, I'm losing this. You gotta lose him. He didn't throw that one.

I didn't throw no punt. He wasn't really doing them dirty and nothing. I was like, y'all been to fuffing to walk out. I'm looking at, I looked at assing that by themselves. Both of them. And me and him was already gone. We were gone. We were gone.

We're gone. Yeah. So y' all y'all, y'all. You know what I mean? It's no R&B. It's no R&B. Hey, you know what, Amy? You know what I mean?

Quiet as it's kept, we fuck with all the groups. Some of them have had issues with us. So we fuck with everybody. Straight up. I got respect for all of them. All of them. Now there was a time where I feel like R&B died out a little bit, right? Now it's back like crazy.

Everybody's doing an R&B party. The biggest parties in every city be the party. So during that time when R&B died a little bit, died a little bit. How did you guys survive? Because I seen Tours slowed down, music slowed down for R&B. Everybody was saying R&B died. How did y'all? None of it did for us.

Not our record. We never had a period where we wasn't booked. Right. I think that's probably why the music hasn't come as often as it should because we've been on the road. You know what I mean? So at this point, we kind of looking at our career like, would we be happy like just touring for the rest of our lives?

No. Because we're creators and we really. And we really are musicians. So, you know, that's why we came with this out. And I ain't going to lie. I never respected it nowhere. You can't just shut down a whole job. What's your complaint?

What? All R&B sound. Don't all hip-hop sound? Don't all country sound? Like, what does that mean? That's why it's a genre. Right, exactly. That's exactly what genre means.

Everything that fits is going to be inside that genre. So what is going to be, what can we expect different from all original parts? Like, where did that title come from? And just for the record, y'all know, they're not bumping this and no transdisclist. go all original parts you're stupid I don't know who made that up you're gonna have to open this up

that's too funny I was a I was like what and then I was like oh they're gonna come for y'all like oh no doubt

that's too funny that was a good one that was a good one that I know yo my bad It just signifies the fact that, you know, even, not even just our era. Since groups have been a thing, they've all broken up. Yeah.

You know what I mean? The Jackson's broke up. Even though Jackson's broken. They're family. So, you know, us being the one group who's never broken up, we wanted to kind of capitalize on that. That's why it's called All Original Part. I love that.

Do y'all ever get worried that, oh, go ahead. No, no, no, not good. Do you guys ever get worried that, like, trying to top the, how big your other songs are? Nope. Nope. Nope. No.

I mean, I guess, you know, there's a possibility that we might not ever have songs bigger than... It's a possible, you know? Music like that ever again. Right. But I just think we don't let it stop the creative process. It's the same for us. Because it just might have. Right.

You see what I'm saying? You never know. And, I mean, we were, people understand, like, we're 100% responsible for our music. So it's the same, same chemistry, same guys, same, you know, same wheels on the car. You know what I'm saying? We don't look at it. We just go on there and do what we do. And to add to what Brian is saying,

I mean, this album, Brian said the other day we was at an interview, you can't look at this 11th album, all the original parts like you look at, J.E. Heartbreak. You feel what I'm saying? Like, give yourself a chance to sit down, listen to the song, and just let it flow. You feel, I'm saying?

Because certain songs grow on you slow. And before you know, you'd be like, yo, this is my shit, right? You know what I'm saying? And at first it wasn't, but now, you know what I'm saying? So please don't come up to us talking about this ain't got to be. It ain't supposed to be. It ain't even got to be.

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on the IHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts You get your podcasts They're going to get that out Stream that I remember when y'all made some of those classic records

And did y'all know they were going to be Smashes as soon as you made it Like when you made Let's Get Married Who you made promise Did y'all know like Oh this is going to be it We did kind of I ain't going to lie like

You know And even when you look at songs Like he can't love you right every song we ever put out we understood what it should be doing like we understood the only reason to drop he came before let's get married was because he can't sound like nothing on the radio at the time we knew let's get married was going to be the big of a song but we knew if you come in a song like this it sounds like nothing it's going for let's get married even bigger and easy you know what i'm saying and it did we did what we did we kind of have been let's get married is going to be that legacy song that when y'all go on your kids going your kids kids going did y'all know this man was mad that we dropped he can't love you first He was going to drop it. Let's get married. Let's get married.

Let's get married. It just did something to me. You know what? I'm like, what? I'm serious, man. But y'all want to drop this on a let's get rid. That's why I never put my pain on a record like that again. You know what I'm saying?

Because at the end of the day, I knew he can't love you was super dope. It was a smash. But let's get married. And I'm, you know, again, I'm one of them anxious guys. You know what I'm saying something. It's the setup. It's about the setup. Yeah, we'll never go broke because of let's get married.

Oh, yeah. All praise you to the whole time, my brother. How old were y'all doing those songs? What was that time? And see, right, those people understand. Like, we was writing those songs. We were 18, 19 years old. He can't love you at 18.

Listen, so we talked about, one of the reason we went that route is because what preceded us was what? Joe, see, freaking, you are Kelly Barley, friendly. That was, it was so prevalent that that was the thing. We were like, how do we don't want to do, we don't want to just fit in with the,

with the album. You know what I didn't say in that back then. Because most of all of that was sex, you know what you all was on. some grown mansions. You're all with, y'all were young, like babies. And, um, uh, promise. Brandi, you wrote that for Batavia, huh?

No, not for me. Wrote it for me. She said, wrote it for me. He said, wrote it for me. Because I've been feeling this question that she did that interview. Listen, we're a, we're a team songwriting team. Right. So, no matter what my piece of the song may be about, that only means.

That don't mean the whole song is about that. You know what I'm saying? Because I think when you're a songwriter, it's not always an exact story. Sometimes it's pieces of a story that you're turning into one story. So, yeah, there was a piece in there about the time. Yeah, but my part wasn't, no. But I love Tommy.

You know what? I was going to ask you, do y'all have a problem? I feel like nowadays brothers don't beg for the vagina. They don't beg for you. We never did. The girls don't make them. There you go. The girls don't make them bad.

It's not even that they don't. It's that the girls don't make them no more. Like back in the day, you beg for it. You cried for it. It was four play. He was outside her house. It was four play back then. You know, you had to lead up and just like, you know,

it's going to take about an hour and a half. You had to work. So you was like, hell pressed to not let it go. Right. So it's just a lot different now, man. How does that affect the right now? Because now it's, nobody's begging for nothing. no more.

Right. I mean. You know what I get out. See you next week. I mean, with us, you know, we're trying to like, even on one of our last independent releases, we had a song called, I forgot what it was called, but we talked about, it talked about how, you know, love ain't cool no more. Our goal is trying to make it cool again.

But now you're a simp. If you love too much, you can, to me, that's, how can you love in somebody make you a simp? Like, that thought is some sim shit if you ask me. like that don't make no sense to me you know what I mean so that's what we still coming from we was coming from then and we still coming from that same point of view you know I think that's you know it's too much homeboy love out there man right it's all good to have your crew homeboy love like too many young guys kick it with their homes that's right that's all they loyal to is the barber the music be about the guys

loving their home music you want and they're loving on the west and I think I think all that's necessary you like you need your team right that's necessary things But you don't want to put too much attention there and then your girl filling some type of way. I mean, but you sit in the club. I mean, the VIP section, full of niggas. I'm saying, for the girls who, like, back in the day, he used to be. You see, like, everything, because, like, sometimes I see them talking,

they were like, man, I'm going to kill these niggins when I hit the streets. And then we used to be like, I'm going to kill them all. That's right. That's right. And that's how you used to dress back in the day. They used to dress like, dumb, man. When you think of, like, an R&B group, you know, it's nice and, you know, silk shirt and all that silk shirts open, you know, you see the top of me coming out of the time.

These niggas used to dress, like they're about to shoot a dice game. And they don't know. Right, like some thug gloves type of stuff. I used to love saying in the video. It was like, all right. Now, you got it to a car rax and we broke your neck? Yeah, man. Break that down.

What happened? Not break that down after you said. Come on, Andy. Break that down? I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry, buddy. I'm sorry. Well, I was in two car races inside of like nine months.

Damn. The first one, I just broke my leg in two places. I had some wrist contusions and a knot on my head. And in the second one. What happened in the car? Did you fall asleep? No. I was coming down the street, right?

You know how Atlanta, we got all those, you know, do a you turn to turn. So I'm coming this way. It was a car sitting right here, and I'm knowing he'd see me, I see him. And as I get this close, then he wants to turn. So even though I'd stop my brakes as hard as I could, I still hit him. He was that fault. Like I said, just towed my car up, told me up.

But the next one was really, that's what really mess with it. Jackknife. No, Tee to call it T-Bomb. T-Bomb. Somebody right in the middle of your car. I was sitting down a light. On that accent, I'm sitting down a lot. And I hear these shots rang out.

And next thing you know, I guess the person who got hit, he lost control of his vehicle and he just swirred right into my vehicle. On the driver's side, his side. I broke my neck. I had five broken ribs on this side, one on this side. I got a scalp laceration right here. It was a lot with that one. I know it's pretty emotional for it.

I saw you on Tamara Hall when you talked about it. You got emotional for the rest of you guys. when you all heard about the second car accident like what were you guys reaction and like kind of what was that like for y'all as well? I was scared because I didn't know what to expect. You know what I'm saying?

And I'm gonna keep it real I don't have my license but don't worry about that. This man ain't never had a license. Hey man has a car. They drive a lot of cars. I see them in a couple of cars. They're driving.

They never had a license. They're going on a hundred times. But, I mean, you know, my wife was like, you know, once I heard it, I'm like, baby, I got to get out of here. I'm, damn the falling down the steps to get in my Uber. And, but in my mind, I'm just praying. I'm like, Lord, please don't come. I mean, it's such a cliche, like I say to hear about artists, plane accident, motorcycle accident, car wrecks. So I'm like, and then it's like, this second one, you know, and so we got up in.

when I got there, because I know the other guys are showing up, I seen them and are like, okay, okay, he's not what. But it's still him. He's still him because he wanted to take his neck braids off. He's like, I'm going to take this shit up. I saw, well, might be good. He cried a couple jokes, but I got this. I'm like, well, he's going to be out.

He was in pain, though. You know, for me, you know, it was the worst day of my life. I ain't going to lie to me because the way I heard the call, somebody told me he, first they told me he got shot because they heard the gunshots. Right. They said he got shot, then he got hit. so you know

this is my guy you know what I mean like yeah you know what I mean I can't talk about it either but I didn't get me you know what I'm saying you know what talk

man yeah and for me I mean you know again I'm gonna always say this man a family that prays together stays together you know what I mean

so I immediately just dropped to my knees man and sent one up you know what I mean God fixed this you know what I'm saying that's all leaving them put it in your hands and he did it

and he did it The guy that got shot, did he make it or? Man, I don't know. Yeah. What kept you during your healing process? Like, what? My girl, my kid. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. I ain't a lot. They took care of it. Absolutely. Good. Everything. It was when I first got to the house.

It's all good, man. Take it too little. Yeah, absolutely all good. Yeah. Been a hell of a little bit. a year, man. Definitely. For all of me.

So seriously, when you hear breaking neck, you just like. Yeah. Yeah, it's up, bro. Yeah, yeah. And like I said, when I got there, you know, one thing about him, you know, he was trying to be in the best spirit still. It was hard. But he was trying, you know what I'm saying?

So that got me, too, just seeing how strong he really is. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Do you look at life differently as a good? group and just people because it's it has to change the way you look and the way you move the way you have to say goodbye to your girl and your wife and your kids it has to change all of us you just never know when it's that time and think that it wasn't man let me tell you something man we're so blessed to be here you got to think like 15 we made each other at 15 you know we had

our little fights and gripes but we understood the um the mission and that's to stay together first well keep God first stay together first again after that and we love what we do but we love each other and we knew our mission was like you said a lot

of songs back then Army was a little soft it was still a good song but still it was kind of soft and then you had some of it was kind of freaky and so we definitely came up with the concept of where we want to speak on behalf of brothers like DJ Enby, Jagged Edge,

who wear Tim Bowls, who wear Jordans. You know what I'm saying? We're just not throwing on the suit. Be more relatable, man. And be more relatable about, hey, I'm hurt. You hurt me, baby. And we need to talk about this. You know what I'm saying?

Or, you know, I promise to stay there with you. Although, you know, you may be going, I want to learn what I need to do better. So we knew that the message was more powerful coming from something real instead of something that the label or the audience. kind of expect.

You know, it's a little deeper than that. You know, music has a message behind it. Yeah, I'm super glad of the route we took, man. We never wanted to exclude anybody from my music or, you know what I mean? Like a school, sale to this certain, I block or this certain type of people, you know what I mean? One thing about we all have a comment is we have loved somebody or wanted to love somebody, you know what I mean? And that's a universal language for us, you know what I mean, love.

So that's what we're going to promote. And I always want to know how humble, y'all always stays so humble, right? Been in this industry a long time. And every time I see y'all or you see your fans, you guys always smile, you always take pictures, you always shake hands. And you don't see that a lot. What put that into you? Because like I said, I know you guys a long time. And you guys treated me the same when I was on radio, just do a mixtape.

And y'all don't know, but I used to tell people, y'all are my cousin. You know what I'm saying? But you're not. But you're not black. I know if he showed up to the fan reunion, they'd be like, is he here to do the brass? But I used to tell anybody that was my cousin for real. Casey, that's dope. That's dope.

Did anybody ever try y'all out? Did anybody ever talk about y'all out? I don't know. You told us that one other time. I ain't go to lie. Somebody said to me, y'all, that y'all actually could because are you from up top too? You from up north? They're just saying like it ain't a lot of y'all up top like that.

So you're like, y'all might be related somewhere in that life for real. Not just at the front door, the club. Talk about, you don't know me of your jacket as kidding. Look, look. That's crazy. Saying that. Nobody ever was, like, going to sing then. I thought about a sin.

Envy, that's really crazy to admit out of. Like, really crazy. But that's really, really important to us, our fans, man. We do recognize that, like, that's one of the main reasons we're still here as well. My fans, yeah, a few reasons, yeah. And you know what else, too, though? Like, that's part of the reason for us, for our image being what it is. Like, we felt like the acts that came before us was almost like this fairy tale untouchable thing.

We never wanted that. We just spoke regular niggins that sang, you know what I'm saying? That's all we wanted to be. We want to look like us. Right. So I know y'all chose the songs that you made because you said you wanted to cut through, but how did you choose who you worked with in the song? It's already for y'all.

Y'all are all lit together, but y'all were very particular about who you featured on songs and who you worked with. How did y'all, at 18, 19, choose that? A lot of times it was Jermaine who chose that. But when it wasn't, you know, even back then in our early 20s, teenage years, we sit down at a table like a board room and we have ideas and we toss them around and, you know, some don't make it, some do. But we're very intentional about the things that we're doing.

So we sit down and we discuss it. Y'all got a favorite song on the album? It changed every day to me. Mine is the single. I'm gonna keep it real. I'm sorry, I'm in a good job, Jay. No, it's fine.

Cheeseburger with cheese. We're a guy who love the singles that's going here. I mean, but yeah, that's right. He's like that on every hour. Every hour. So we call him cheeseburger with cheese. And y'all don't even know with valediers from the heart. You know what I mean?

So any time we get a, man, we get a bop. Come on, man. That's the one. That's it, man. Like, that's a bop, man. So what is your, what is the, uh, the one? Just might get it. Be careful what you wish for.

Because you just might get it. I think for me right now, it's, um, forever love, for have a love for me right now. For me, I'm gonna go with she said what she said. He said what she said. Somebody just text me and said they can't get past that.

She said what she said. It's going to grab you. It's one of those songs. Like, if you ain't ready, you're going to be crying, you don't know why. We have somebody crying yesterday when you're playing it. I ain't named no name. No name.

Who was crying? He was crying? He was crying? I'm like, how many times you write the song? What happened yesterday made you cry? Now it's the time to talk about it. Are you guys going to have any special guests on the tour? Hold on the way.

Hold on the way. What's your favorite song? Jay, let me tell you something. You turn up loud enough. I'm not loyal to what's favorite because, I mean, we was playing the album the other day. He was a song whore. I'm a song whore. I'm a song for that. You need a bread

I don't know My bed, Lo, what are you saying? Oh, special guests on the tour Like, y'all bringing anybody out? Anybody popping out? Oh, that's on this one. But it's a couple things been offered to us

We just haven't necessarily accepted So we'll see. An intimate evening with jagged at edge. Absolutely, that's the whole point of it. And we plan on doing that throughout the spring. We probably take out a bigger tour later, you know, mid-summer-time

but this is just to celebrate the 25 years of Jay Hart heartbreak and just us still being here, you know what I mean? And honestly, you know, this idea was kind of live, it was kind of live Natchez's idea. And, you know, we just kind of filled it and we thought, yeah, that would be dope. So like you said, it's only a few, it's about nine dates on that tour, right? And then when that's over, it's, we probably out for the rest of the summer. Yeah, I got some songs that people love that I don't know, y'all going to be able to do on the tour or not.

Like the nasty girl, the trade it all. No, no, see. No, no, there you go. I just go on. And if I come, I didn't need to know. Like, I do that thing. I love all music now. You took the words right out of my mouth,

because it's the next thing I was going to say, like, we pay attention to our fans. I mean, we've had people hold up signs, like, with remedy on it. We actually got cussed out one time overseas. A dude was shooting a bird at us in the audience. They don't shoot a bird in? Yeah, middle finger. I'm not saying like that up here.

Oh, yeah, yeah. He was giving us a finger the entire show. So, of course, you know, we're going to go out. Not an entire show. I mean, well, you know, we've seen it, you know, verbatim. So we went out in the crowd, and after the show or whatnot, and we seen it, approached you. And it was like, hey, man, what's going on? Like, you know, we're shooting us to giving us the finger the entire show.

It was like, because y'all, y'all did my favorite song, man. And it was for the rest of our lives. You know what I said? He said, I know the way y'all was running through those numbers. Y'all weren't going to do my song. And we was like, what's your song? He was like, we don't even do that song. But now we've asked him.

a dad in the show we've got like a lot of a bunch of new records on shows along with what we are but that's not what she was alluded to and i know what she was alluded to me i'm asking the question because i think you know people i know for me if i come out into midnight with with you guys i do want to hear trade it all is my song nasty girl's my song like let me just say this too right because we just did we just had this conversation last night right with each other no with another with a radio station diddy that's you know that's my brother that's our brother like we've had a good relationship with. I can't speak on nobody else's, you know, it ain't my business, right? But at the end of that, I can only deal with my

interactions with the man. And I'm talking about plenty of them. After being around him 30, 40 times, I've never seen nothing that offended me. He's never offended me. He always made sure if we was in his space, we felt welcome. And like I said, all the other things, they can have that. You know, I had an uncle went in jail for 11 years. Let me shout out my Uncle Larry. I had an uncle went to jail for 11 year and he was always still just my uncle there didn't change to the point

where he's some different guy because he did some messed up stuff he's still my uncle there and it's the same with Diddy to me at this point you know I don't know if he's innocent if he's guilty but that's my brother and that's all I can say about pray for him man yeah absolutely yeah right but I do want to ask

trade it all you're all surprised he called y'all and not him and not 112 not one 12 I'm pissed the fuck off Listen, because really, we got more songs with him than they do. We got like three, four songs with it. That's why he said the chairlating and the Rai Rosh. He were mad about that. Get to the bottom of it.

The album, definitely pick it up right now, and we appreciate you guys for John. Let's get into a joy of the album, what y'all want to hear? Let's go with the single. Just might get it. Just might get it. Video hot on Friday. When the tour start? March 26, Dallas.

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