The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: Kevin Hart Talks Lil Kev, Advice To Druski & Kai Cenat, Mike Epps, Shaq + More

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

Best of 2025- Kings of Comedy - Kevin Hart, Andrew Schultz, Donnell Rawlings Interviews. Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for p...rivacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Hart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Wake that ass up. Earl, in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV. Just hilarious.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. Who refuses to stop. Ladies and gentlemen, Kevin Hart. Welcome back, brother. He just won't sit down.
Starting point is 00:00:23 See that? How you're feeling? Come on. Give it up for yourself. Give it up for yourself. If nobody else will. We got to give it up for yourself, man. I feel good, man.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Life is great. No complaints, man. Here to talk about more shit, which means great shit is happening. Still moving, still tracking, still working, still doing the same thing but bigger. When the last time you took a break, Cass? Why? Why take a break? You don't need a little rest every now.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I don't need no rest. You can rest when you die. I enjoy doing what I do. So why am I looking to rest? I have a good time working. I don't like hate my job or my job doesn't stress me out. I enjoy the idea of work. I enjoy the idea of doing something that I set out to do.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Like, that's my happy space. Yeah, so I'm not resting anytime soon. Well, congratulations to your Eagles. 45. Yeah. Congratulations to your Eagles. Yeah, I said congratulations. I just say congratulations.
Starting point is 00:01:23 I just said congratulations. You a Giants fan? I am a Giants fan. That's crazy. Yeah, you thank me. I mean, I don't work. in the office. I understand what your office did. Seyquine Barkley. How about that?
Starting point is 00:01:33 How about that? Just a second. See, the helmet, it was signed by Seyuan. Just a second to talk about that. How about that? By Sequin. It says, he's going to Sequin. How about that? Man, like, not a lot of offices can, like, sit and be like, we fucked up.
Starting point is 00:01:49 There's not a lot that can actually go, you know what, man, we really fucked up on this one, man. We did. Like, who's responsible? Like, they got a point. That's one of the few times that they got a point in each other. was, did you, Gary, did you, who didn't make the fucking deal? I thought it was been, you know, I thought it was in our best interest. The biggest gift in football, man.
Starting point is 00:02:05 So stupid. It is. But it was good for Sequin. He wouldn't have that season in New York. I'm happy for Seekon. He wouldn't have that season in New York. You don't know what he would have. That's true.
Starting point is 00:02:13 You don't know what he would have. I know they wouldn't win no Super Bowl. I mean, that's true, but you don't know the season that you had. Coming back healthy, ready to play football, you know, it's not like he just got good. He's been fucking good. Healthy, 100%. He was the face of the Jones. I mean.
Starting point is 00:02:27 100% why do you get rid of say I just don't understand it but thank you I thank the giants for the gift one of the best gifts that I've ever fucking like received as a fan stay quite embarking talk to us about this new two-part documentary you got number one on the call sheet congratulations first of all to jamie fox man this is a jamie fox like idea that he came to me with at heartbeat and you know it was the concept about being number one on the call sheet and the good and bad of it right he's like you know a lot of people experience it but it doesn't do the same for everyone you know and whether it's the ego whether it's the money whether it's the idea of the
Starting point is 00:03:07 money whether it's the thought of my career is now about to be and it doesn't become like there's so many different uh concepts attached to it i thought it was a great idea man um you know fox is a brilliant mind and i said to make it real like we got to go out and you know of course tap into all our relationships. So what started off is just the idea for men, like we were heavy on the men's side. And then we were like, yo, it's dope as fuck if you have it to where, you know, there's a male version and then we go and we tap into a female version as well. And really just expand the conversation of success or lack thereof.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And it's dope to hear all these people talk about it. So I think people are going to be blown away by hearing the good and the bad. Like everybody doesn't fuck with the concept of it, you know? Well, being number one on the call sheet? Everybody doesn't fuck with it, man. When did you become number one on the call sheet, and what does it mean to be that? I've been number one for a while. But when was the first time?
Starting point is 00:04:04 Like, I love it. I love it. Like, I don't want to make it very clear. I love it. Well, think like a man the first time? No. I mean, the first one, first one was probably, of course, paper soldiers way back in the day. Oh, but, you know, it's been a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Dane will be happy to hear that. He'll be happy to hear that you. Paper soldiers, shouts out the day. I think for me it's more about, you know, it's about the idea of building the project. So, you know, I'm more of the creative behind the scene now. So to have the idea and the idea come into like real life and you're like, oh, shit, we're doing this and it's happening. And then the number one on the call sheet and you're like following down. That's great.
Starting point is 00:04:48 But now, honestly, I don't really give a fuck. I'm joking about the number one. But I'm more about putting other people in place to do shit. and the producing or the development projects is what thrives. Like, that's what drives me. Now, you never left the road. Why is the road so important to you? Because you control it.
Starting point is 00:05:03 You own it. And you do small venues, you do big venues. There's nothing better than stand-up kind of. There's no job better than the job of live entertainment, live audience, your fans, your connection, your relationship. It doesn't die, right? Like, you literally, if you treat it like a plant and you forever water it, the plan is never going to die, right?
Starting point is 00:05:26 Like, so if it can grow and you have good seasons, bad seasons, it's always going to be there. And those fans are just going to ride with you forever. So I'm very, I'm very adamant on staying true to stand-up comedy. Nothing takes the place to stand-up comedy. I don't give up what I'm doing, the level that I'm doing at, I will go and do comedy clubs. I will come in New York for months on a time
Starting point is 00:05:47 and just do a run of pop-ups. That's my muse. That's my stress relievers. Do you have a specific process? you ever still go back and visit family in Philly to, like, get some, get some, like, core material? No, I mean, you know what, just, I think when you're, when you're doing a lot in general, you're, you're always in the space of creative thinking, right?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Like, if you're nonstop, I'm not in the house. Like, I'm traveling. I'm around, I'm around, I'm around, you're constantly seeing things. Like, that's where your ideas are coming from. That's where the urge to talk about more shit happens. Whether it's young energy or old energy, that's where my appetite to go, oh, fuck, that's funny. Let me go on stage. I'm going to see what this is.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Or, oh, God, this is actually, this is a new fucking, like, this is a new bait or possible, like, idea to get to the bait. So I can fucking get, get like, some dope shit. Once I get excited about it, then I'm hitting the ground running. But it's not family generated. It's travel generated. Where am I going? What am I experiencing? Who am I around?
Starting point is 00:06:51 Did you hear Damon Wayne say that he would never do, uh, he would never do, uh, stand-up anymore because he was like people are too sensitive no he said people are stupid well yeah he's stupid dumb basically you know he says anything people get offended too fast and it's like it's just not worth to distress uh I understand I mean I'm not I don't I don't see it the same way because I don't I don't have that level of giving fuck of I don't want to do the thing that I love to do because I'm caring so much about what everybody else is thinking about what I'm doing like I don't I think he meant that on you know how the way is used to be like they no limit
Starting point is 00:07:24 you talk about anything but now that since the new trend is being offended and a lot of people are just you know it is what it is though like those different communities i mean dame is dame is a legend like if dame wanted to go on stage and fuck around dame can do what he wants when he wants uh you know the idea of people being upset or or fucking triggered if you're thinking about that like then you're you're going down a crazy spiral i'm not i'm not doing comedy and thinking about the thought of what you think about what I'm saying. Like, I'm, I have the things I want to talk about. I know the direction I want to go in.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I'm not here to offend. I'm not here to aggravate or piss people off. I'm here to do my craft. I think you can get away with anything if it's actually funny. If it's funny. I really believe that. If it's funny and it's coming from a genuine point of view. Yeah, like I'm, I'm not being malicious.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Like, if I, if your intent is to be malicious behind said thing and there's no real humor attached to it, it's just an angry fucking. suggestion and that's different but I'm not in that space I'm not I'm not I'm not doing shit to piss people off what the last time you've been angry Jeff last time I've been angry it's been a minute man it's been a minute I don't get what what do you like what are you angry about like what why why why are you letting things drive you to the point of a level of anger that prevents you from doing something else like it takes so much energy to be angry or do you have something that when you even get to
Starting point is 00:08:52 that point like is it the gym is it you kids Is it the stage? Like, I don't, I know this is going to sound crazy. There's nothing that pressing to make me angry. You can have a moment. You can be frustrated for a moment, but then I'm a solution oriented. So what's the solution? That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah, like, what's this? Okay, if something happened and it's upset, all right, well, why? Like, why don't it happen? Like, anything, it's all office or business related. So, like, what, well, why? All right, well, now that is the case. Like, what are we doing to basically get outside this box? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:22 How can I help get outside the box? Like, me being upset at you and your mistake doesn't change the mistake. And by the way, if this is a mistake you always make, all right, well, we got to remove you. I'm sorry, but that's business. I'm not angry about the choice, but it's a professional solve. Have you apologized yet to Delaware State University? For what? Deshawn Jackson said you were sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Huh? Deshawn Jackson said, oh, sorry. Oh, you're talking about when I said, uh... I forgot what he said. What did he say? There's jokes. That's not a college. That's not a real college.
Starting point is 00:09:54 A bunch of niggas on a kid. It's a park or something? Oh, a bunch of niggas on campus. I mean, first of all, it is, all right? But it's like smart people there too. Like, what are you mean? We're talking about. I fucking used to go to Delaware State all the time.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I perform there several times from Philadelphia. It's right up the street. Yeah. Delaware State knows I have no ill will towards them. I love you guys. But it was a funny bit. There's a lot of niggas out there. You got your animated show out, little cabs.
Starting point is 00:10:23 out, little calves, talks about your life growing up. What made you want to do that? Animation style. You know, crazy, this has been a, this is like, this is a crazy development, man. This is, I want to say like seven or eight years in the making. Before we could actually, like, do it properly, shots out to Scott Mills over there at BT, man,
Starting point is 00:10:45 for understanding like my world of want and allowing me to do it the way I wanted to do it. You know, it's an adult animation. And I wanted to like flip it the story of the conversation attached to the hood, right? Like, everybody talks about the hood, but one point of view. You know, the hood is the hood. And people like, the hood is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:11:02 It's so bad. Just a bunch of niggas in the neighborhood. Yeah, like, and I think that there's a, there's a positive side to it, you know. There's a role that everybody plays in the hood, especially when it comes, the kids, families. Like, everybody's a part of the village. Everybody's raising everybody's child. Everybody is aware. Everybody's in the know.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Everybody's trying their best to service. need a good, and even bad shit is happening, you know, when people find out there is an energy attached to trying to solve it and make it better. And this is a way of just flipping the conversation on the hood upside down. So it's about me, my upbringing, being in the hood, but having such a high level of love for the hood for my family and for all the people around it. And Jess Laris is in it, keeping her away from Breakfast Club. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Okay, just don't listen to that. I don't. Yeah, that's ridiculous, first of all. Thank you. And when people say, like, I want to make something very clear, when people say, like, I care, thank you for giving people a job. People earn them job. Like, I'm not giving just anything.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I'm not out like, hey, here, Jess, here's a fucking gift. Like, that's Jess, that's her team. That's people working and saying, hey, this is a good thing to possibly put Jess up for. But you can say no. I mean, you could say no, but when people are talented and earning things on their own, it's happening the way it's supposed to be. I'm not in the space of no of everything. And I'm handpicking people and doing like, that's, that will mean that I'm fucking.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I mean, the time in a day to do that and do it and do it and do it, and that means that the people around me aren't doing what the fuck they're supposed to do. So it's your job to, like, properly package and, you know, put people in places to make these projects good. And it's my job to see it at the end stage of going, wow, this is a great cast. These are great personnel, great roles. I like this. I like this configuration. But justice earning it.
Starting point is 00:12:46 That's not me giving it. Thank you. And, you know, you do take the time to pour into the next generation. You know, Drusky was up in. And Druski said that you gave him and Kai Sanat a bunch of movies to watch. Yeah. Told him, whatever your stupid asses is doing right now, watch these movies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And prepare for the next level. That's right. You know, I like, I like what the younger generation is doing. It's crazy I'm saying that. Like, I'm really am a part of, like, a time of old. How old are you now? 45. Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Well, it doesn't look it. I did that for Don Cito. you know that that that older generation of like how we approach the business how we approach the craft right like and i think it's dope as fuck to see this new generation navigate differently like like the comedians of today did not go and you know work at it the same way that we did like they're they're breaking new ground finding ways to be the personality's first and then get to the stage after and the way that they're engaging with their audience and the way that the audience is responding to them I think it's dope as fuck so you know and being a fan
Starting point is 00:13:58 of it uh I feel like it's my job now to figure out ways to like grab this personnel when and where I can and you know try to push them forward with Kai and Druski Kai is such a monster man like I don't think people realize how big Kai's audience is yes we do Kai's fan base is insane. Like you're talking about somebody that's talking in front of a computer for hours on end. And, you know, he holds anywhere between 300,000, 400,000 people, the eight to 12-hour periods that don't move. Like, when we did those streams, you know, you're putting up Super Bowl-like numbers. We had at one point, like, 900,000 people in that fucking stream watching for hours on end.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So I told him, I said, look, man, I want to show. show you guys ways to like give your audience more and ways to do more so i came up with like with some dope-ass ideas concepts for us to rock in together um but stay true to the space of what they're doing so druski i know he came and he was like telling you guys about the movie i don't want to tell you all what it is but it's a big it's a big idea that we're working now but i was like to do it you guys got to educate yourself on things in this space so it wasn't homework i was like understand production understand how movies are made understand the look and feel so that when we're talking and ideating you know what I'm talking about like I don't want to talk to you and you got to go backwards and track what we're talking about so the the homework quote unquote the homework was more about get this concept and then like let's get to the table and let's make the shit funny but I got them really like creating the shit and developing it and not because you know it's a chore a task it's like I'm I want you to be a part of the process so you can understand
Starting point is 00:15:45 the process and after you do this with me go do it yourself go do it and figure out ways to you know do it with the other people that you're around but I think they're fucking talented I think Juski's a star I think Juski's a funny fucking guy man naturally I think they're fucking like
Starting point is 00:16:00 natural talents and in this it's like putting them in a position to be what they are and be the first to come over the bridge from that space of streaming whatever like what Mr. Bees is doing dope is game show big game show he's taking everything in the idea of game prize he's
Starting point is 00:16:20 he redefined it right like if you really watch it what he's done he redefined the concept of game game show we've seen it for years on who wants to be a millionaire and all these other shows but it was a traditional there was a traditional win and here's your gift he broke that model I'm gonna get some cash some regular people man and he did it time at the time of time again and then he built the big ass series and hey man fucking streaming platforms like hey we gotta fuck with this guy we're gonna give him x y z to do it we want you to do it with us but he controls it he owns it so i'm showing them how to control how to own and do bigger things so it doesn't cap out at the stream
Starting point is 00:16:58 drucey said you actually set him up in that in that stream with that with that little kid he said he said it was you that actually set him up that that's that's what you did though you did start you said you started he said you started and they followed you leave because you're the OG they follow you lead that's right what you need to understand is where the cameras are at all times. What I said, the Druski was in his ear. I said something in his ear,
Starting point is 00:17:21 okay? Nobody really knows what I say. He knows what I said, and then he took the liberty of going and, you know, saying very harsh things, by the way. You know, things that shouldn't be saying. We've seen you moonwalk right out.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Like, you see, I mean, I don't want to be around that. I've seen a lot of people getting fights. I've seen when it's about to happen. I go, I shouldn't be here. Right? I shouldn't be here. They're about to start shooting.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah, yeah. By the way, he's got the gun. I see it. I'm going to leave right now. Yeah, so I just exited the room because I think at the time I had to go to the bathroom, actually. And then a lot of stuff from what I was told, a lot of shit happened. From what I was told, the kids start crying and stuff like that. And I came back and I came back and I was like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:18:00 At that time, I'm the adult in the room trying to calm shit down. Like, hey, man, what's happening? And I think all the cameras caught me saying that, which is good for me legally. So I was never attached. Drewski said he felt like he could make those jokes because he's fat and y'all were teething him all day about being fat. Oh, Juski, first of all, calling people fat is
Starting point is 00:18:20 that's aggressive. You saw the big dank in a view. Yeah, I just want to. I don't know where the cameras are. I just want to I just want to say, that's it. You understand it, like, that's, the F word.
Starting point is 00:18:33 The F word. Is Jusky big? Is he a little bigger? Yeah. Does he have problems breathing when he walks up steps? Yeah, of course. Of course. But, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:45 That little kid, I think, was on his way to a healthy lifestyle. You got to support that, right? The little kid, because I think the little kid was talking about exercising and stuff, which is good. And I'm always glad to just be on the positive side of conversation. That's what I'm about. That's right. You know, I'm a beacon of light, joy. Kevin, and sure, at the level of success that you are being an actor, do you still have to audition for roles?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Absolutely not. Okay. What are you talking about? Damn. No, no. Because Martin Lawrence said that he has said that he does. Martin said he had to He pitches
Starting point is 00:19:17 He still got to pitch projects Oh pitch that yeah That makes sense If he's pitching things I mean am I really pitching things? I think I'm pitching ideas to my team I'm more in the business of Creating the things that I think best service
Starting point is 00:19:33 My want And my direction in the business Like When you think about the dramas You think about all the things that I've done The series like that's been me So true story. I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:44 I want to fucking kill somebody on camera. I think it'll be dope. And I went and found a guy that created Narcos. And I was like, it'll be dope as fuck if we can collab and talk. But we developed it. And then I was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:19:56 this is great. Let's go and take this out. Like that's developing it and then going to sell it. Fight night, you know. That was me, Will Packer and Will telling me you had to write and not saying, hey, to do it,
Starting point is 00:20:07 this can be dope as fuck, but let's do it this way and put the right people in it. So like the, The creative side from start to finish is where I'm playing it now. But like auditioning, I'm not really auditioning. I think people, if they have a project, they're like, oh, Kevin would be good for this, and I'm getting those calls.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Hey, we want you to do. And then I got a decision of if I want to do it or not. Like, for instance, the upside. That's still one of my favorite movies. You and Brian Cranston, they already saw you for that role. They just called you. They said, we want to do the remake, and we see you and Brian Cranston doing this. Are you interested?
Starting point is 00:20:40 And that was genius. Absolutely. and Nicole Kittman. I was like, absolutely, hands down. But it's, it's coming out and having an ask. Not to say that I wouldn't audition. You would? No, he wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I was trying to clean it up. I was trying to clean it up. I was trying to, because I know y'all got cameras here. I just wanted to look in and make you just look like, I'm willing to do, right? I'm not. I just want to guys some, make you understand. What was the last time you got booed?
Starting point is 00:21:07 And the reason I asked because you said you do small shows. And that's why I got booed? I'm not getting booed. I'm not getting booed at this point. Like, even if jokes aren't funny, you know, you're getting the credibility laughs at least. You try laughing just because it's you. You're trying things out. Minimum, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Or those good laughs, though? You don't want those. When you're trying things out, you don't care. You don't want a damn boo even. You don't care. Honestly, I have no, there is no care for like the level of laughter when I'm trying to figure shit out now I think I've got it all done and I'm like oh this set is complete I'm going out and I'm struggling okay then that's that's a little self-esteem
Starting point is 00:21:50 bruising if that's the case but that's not that hasn't been the case ever like when you when you work the shit and you don't work during the craft and I'm like okay I got it I got it down this is my set no you're not you're not running into them problems now do you get an occasional person that you got to deal with in the crowd yeah but that stuff isn't booing that's like you know at That's heckling or somebody yelling out and looking for a moment. Every once in a while, you got a show that you still got that. And, you know, you put people in a place comedically and then you move on with the set.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But booing, no. What about, like, social media backlash? Because everybody, for whatever reason, was highly upset when you hosted a NBA All-Star Weekend. There was a section of the internet that was acting like they were. You know, you know, what do you, what do you, what energy do you give that? I'm a partner to the NBA. Like, I understand what that means. I'm not coming on to be Kevin Hart and have funny moments to the NBA.
Starting point is 00:22:46 The NBA has been a servicing aid to my career for over 15 years. Like, you go back and you'll look at how much I've been on NBA, T&T, and All-Star Weekends, Celebrity Weekends, all these events. Like this, you're not looking at it's almost host-adjacent, right? Like, the personalities that we lean on because we're familiar with family, and we know how they work. That's what that is. So the All-Star, I'm not going to the All-Star game
Starting point is 00:23:15 and trying to create a big moment for me. I'm there because the energy of the All-Star game comes with Chuck, Ernie, Kinney, myself, Shaq. Like, we've been doing this for years. Like, just talking and playing with one another, bantering on camera. That's not an easy thing to do. They make it look fucking easy.
Starting point is 00:23:32 They make it look great. That's not an easy thing to do. Especially between you and Shaq. Yeah, that seems very easy. That's not fucking an easy thing to do. Like that chemistry, that rapport It comes from like having a real understanding For how TV works
Starting point is 00:23:44 So you can't just throw new things in there Because it gets weird People don't understand the times People don't understand the cuts How much time you gotta go Cut back to the game They're trying to do so much new shit They're trying to discover it
Starting point is 00:23:55 So why they're trying to figure it out Here's personalities that we can lean on So at least we don't have dead space Or dull moments on camera That's what that is So when you understand the technicality behind it Then you understand my involvement I don't feed into the other shit
Starting point is 00:24:08 Like, I know why I'm there. Part of the shit. Do you ever tell Shaq to, like, really back up off you? Does he be kind of sexually assaulting you in a little bit? What? Shagg, well, come on. Just a little. What?
Starting point is 00:24:18 There's only one time with Shaggy's done some crazy shit. Okay. Or I was uncomfortable. And what was it? I was on real husbands when he, that whole thing that's on the internet that they... Oh, yeah. But that wasn't scripted, right? I wasn't scripted.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I bet it was a moment. And honestly, I'm going to be real with you. I couldn't do nothing about it. They got a cut. This is, you know, this is before I put a little size on, not to say that I could do something to Shaq, but I didn't, you know, it was a very frail version of me. And, you know, this is when Shaq was like,
Starting point is 00:24:51 when they were like just talking about Shaq being a cop. And he really was a cop. We think it would be funny as fuck. Shaq pulled me over on Real Hussein of Hollywood. And, you know, like Shaq is like basically about to arrest me. And he fucking, you know, everybody can't improv. Say what he did to you, Ken. I'm not going to, I don't need to be it.
Starting point is 00:25:08 That's crazy. kept rolling and they knew kept rolling what he just kept rolling now you don't even have to say this we're not even going to discuss it for people who haven't seen it real this is a great show you should watch it's a great show but it's online yeah but what we're not going to do is make it seem like something that it wasn't so so what he did was he grabbed me when i got out the car and he just tried to get a little physical right it was like patch you down but it's like like everybody doesn't improv the same comedy is a art like you ever see comedians when they try to like improv or some
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm going to go too far or they don't know when to stop. He's like, hey, man, we got it in the scene. Like, you can't go over there. I'm like, oh, yeah, with your mama. And you're like, well, you can't bring up moms because we don't know who our moms are in this scene. It's like, I just Googled it. Yeah, well, it says, hashtag pause of the week.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Hey, yo, nah, Shaq, you scraped by lady Kevin Hart. You literally took that man to pound town. Did he? Well, this is, this is, what you're doing is ridiculous. That's actually, that's actually nuts. Nuts? Nah, that's nuts. That's nuts.
Starting point is 00:26:04 He grabbed me, he throws me over the, over the car and he starts humming me so I'm like I remember you know how long he turned you around bent you over wow he did do what you have to look at Kevin's face and say you can tell let me tell you what I can tell Charlemagne is a perfect like he is a nasty man he is like in this brief time I just found out a lot about him by the way he starts describing stuff you're a very graphic nasty man yeah I just told you just describing what Shaq did to you he grabbed me and he fucking like throws me over the car he's like you don't know what he starts helping me i remember ralph was directed an episode right i remember ralph was
Starting point is 00:26:42 directed episode i remember i looked at ralph i'm like hey did y'all did y'all is it pink pages something happened right and they was like uh they were like all right uh nobody wanted to say shit to shack they was like all right we got it so let's uh let's just move on we just we just we just talked about it after no we didn't even address it we i was like man just like Everybody just shut up. He tried to get you again on the start weekend. Everybody just shut up. No, he did.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Did you get trinked a little bit? I saw you. He was creeping up behind. That's a very young. I'm older and I'm in a much more controlling state in my life where I, you know, I would say something to Shagher. You know, don't do that. Don't forget.
Starting point is 00:27:25 No. Stop it. Right? Like a firm, stop that. Right? But in that moment, that was Shack trying to be funny. That's my, that's my, that's my, I have so much love. Do people know the role, or this generation,
Starting point is 00:27:38 do they know the pivotal role Shack played in your career? The Pivotal Road? I don't think people do know, the pivotal role. What is the pivotal role? That sounds crazy. No, I'm being serious. We don't know. When he had the Shack comedy, All-Star Weekend.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yes. Yes. And he's referring to, like, the special that actually launched, I would say, like, the bigger side of success to my comedy career. No bullshit. It is Shack's All-Star Comedy Jam. That was in Phoenix. You know the crazy thing?
Starting point is 00:28:05 I did it as a favor. It was a favor. Like, I was like, oh, man, I can't let you do shit. I'm about to drop my special. So I don't really want to, like, go and do this. It was like, no, Kevin, come on. Like, we need a headliner. We want you to come.
Starting point is 00:28:18 It would be quick. And it was like just a gig during an All-Star Weekend. You know, like, we're going to tape it. And I was like, all right, well, I'm going to put, like, a different 15 minutes on this, man. And I don't really, you know, I'm not really pressed to, I'm not really pressed about it like that. So I'll give you all this 15 and I'll save the other shit for my special. So it was like a tossaway set. Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:34 That was a hilarious thing. tossed away 15 minutes set, like a backlog set. I gave all this. And shit ended up being the biggest. So, shouts out to the big dummy himself. I want to go back to number one on the call sheet because Sterling K. Brown did an interview where he said that people wanted to put him number one
Starting point is 00:28:51 in the car sheets, but he was superstitious about it because he'd been successful enough not being number one. So he was okay with being number two. What do you think of that? I don't mind that. You know, I mean, that's somebody that's been there. When you're there and you've experienced, whatever the conversation attached to it is is not the same level of important
Starting point is 00:29:11 right like it's it's not important like I was joking around earlier about the idea of number one of the call sheet but it's not that important to me I don't I don't give a fuck I don't I don't care about top billing I don't need my name to be first I don't need my name to be the biggest when they first put the movie or the TV show out like if that's more important to you I'm like all right let him get it I don't I don't really I don't really give a fuck and not in a dismissive way but if that's what you need to make you feel better and it'll make you feel like a valuable piece
Starting point is 00:29:38 to the puzzle of this project? Absolutely, give it to them. Like, I can take those back steps because you've been there. Like, it's like the idea of stardom. It's not, it doesn't thrive or, I'm not thriving in the space of being a star. Like, you've been there, I could give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Like, you condemn the light as much as you want. I don't, it doesn't matter. That novelty has been worn. Yeah, it's like you don't, it doesn't, it's not driving my reason to get up and do. So I think what Sterling is referring to, is saying like, look, man, I don't really like that. I've done it.
Starting point is 00:30:10 It's better for me to do this. Let somebody else deal with all the headache of that. That's what he's doing. And shout out to him, too, man. The show is incredible right now. So when you in the Rock do a movie, who's number one on the cause you? I let him get it. But DJ's an asshole.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Damn. Yeah. He's an asshole. You let him get it? No, I'm joking. Yeah. No, DJ, by the way, he trumps me every time. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:30:32 It's not even a conversation. I don't even bring it up. No, you're number one on this. That's right. What is it? Because the box office numbers? Like, how do they... I think he deserves to be number one when we do the project.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He's a international superstar. Not to say that I don't have international success, but I don't think that we're equal in that regard. I think that his movies have performed and done crazy business internationally. And when we do the project that we want to appeal to the world, you should be first. I'm coming in and I'm on that. train with you i'm adding value to it but i'm not bumped by you being first um we put an amazing cast together to help us get those audiences when we do but i i don't i don't feel any type way about that i think he deserves it and he should have it congratulations too man you got it was
Starting point is 00:31:23 announced that uh uh you're working with the indiana paces now i'm not working with the paces heartbeat entertainment heart beat is it working with the paces yes heartbeat to be the the official cultural curator to provide entertainment and live experiences for fans in the Indian apolis community. Yes, yes. What is that to say about that? What is it? What does the 76 say about that? We're speeding with the question. First of all, what does that look like? It's an opportunity for our company, right? Like your, our company is a creative engine for any resource that allows us to be, right? Like, we are a business. So our business thrives when we can implement ourselves in places to create or elevate a brand, a company, an entity, an
Starting point is 00:32:06 activation, whether it be live entertainment, storytelling, etc. Indiana, with the Pacers and the fever, have an attraction coming. I think they have an All-Star coming up, but it's more about, they're like, look, we're looking for ways to expand and elevate what we've done. They spent a lot of money on a new facility. They have a team that's thriving, a younger team. the fever are thriving with star power, et cetera. So they're like, how do we elevate? How can we better tell our story? And I'm like, that's what we do.
Starting point is 00:32:39 You know, and me having relationships with, you know, the owner of the team and presidents of the teams or CMOs that are a part of those entities. It's like, look, that's what we do. We tell stories very well. So to market, promote, and better define that for you, that's our business. Let us show you how we can make that business a service to you.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And they gave an opportunity. And I was like, dope. Let our company do it. So it's not a Kevin Hart thing. Like, everybody assumes that Kevin Hart is the driving factor or the source. It's the entity. The entity has to do things outside of me, right, entity to fucking thrive. Like, that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:33:17 So whether it's the fucking Pacers, I got business with the Falcons, I got business with the Eagles. Would you do the Giants? That's one that I don't know if I would touch because they don't know good. stuff they may let me go but it's it's how many of those can I do step and repeat so the pacer's we'll use as an example once we do it well and from that example I'll go to other fucking NBA teams or the NBA in general like I'm looking to be a better partner for the NBA how do we better tell stories for your brand how do we better promote and market you how can we amplify or activate differently like these are words in the business that
Starting point is 00:33:57 that companies desperately want to hear from potential partners. That's an interesting question because, Amy, what you're about to say about the sixes? And I was just saying, well, how did the 76s feel like that? Because you are such a 76ist fan. I feel like they might look at it like, why are you over there messing with them? You hear. This is home team. Because it's heartbeat the company and Kevin Hart, the individual.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I promise you that they wouldn't even blink an eye because they understand business. Kevin Hart is still a 76ist fan. His company, heartbeat, is doing a service for another company. Hey, Kev, you think you could do this for us too? Would your company be interested in doing this? Absolutely, guys. This is not anything Kevin specific. I'm still going to Sixers games.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I still sit courtside. They're trash right now, by the way. They're horrible. Right now, we're not in the best position, but I'm still a fan. I'm an Eagles fan. But if there's business that can be done for another NFL entity that wants to tell stories, well, we're going to tell those stories for the entity. That doesn't mean that our brand can't do that.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It's a company. You know, I know that you guys were talking to my girl. about you like yo is that crazy like this isn't kevin heart i'm not i'm not going to the to the pacers and man it's time for me to change the narrative oh this is what my company does is that simple will heartbeat call mike eps to do absolutely like we by the way if you here's here's an example right if all-star weekend is coming up there and we're like okay hey we have ideas to service a bigger like a bigger process that people can probably gravitate towards A little different from what they've done in the past.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Here's how we're going to make the All-Star Weekend in Indiana. When the women are playing, here's how we can make it different. Here's what we can bring to the table. Women round tables. A woman cold as balls, et cetera. Is there a comedy activation? Women forwarded. Does Mike want to bring and be responsible for?
Starting point is 00:35:46 Comedy from Indian? Absolutely. Like, that's when you tap in. All you are is the servicing hub. We're the hub. Now it's our job to go and grab everybody to make this thing underneath our hub better it's not you're you're you desperately need that so in this case hell yeah mike come on mike by the way this is your city what's dope about the city that we can do
Starting point is 00:36:08 with you what do you want to do how do we help you like that's that's partnership but if the thought triggers you at first what this is my city how well then you don't even you don't even get to the next stage of opportunity the opportunity comes from understanding the idea oh Oh, dope, I can't, I can do something. I'll bet, and I want to do this too. Absolutely. Here, here's how we're going to do it. Like, that's business.
Starting point is 00:36:34 That's how business is done. That's how you get to the place of success. So there just hasn't been an opportunity for a heartbeat to call Mike yet. No, we just did anything with it. We literally just happened. We just did the deal. Gotcha. And now that we are doing the deal, well, now you got to tap in to the culture of the city.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You got to tap into popular names and faces from the city. you got to tap into the athletes that are the stars in the city now you go and you say guys here's what we're thinking of here's how we make this special but here's how we do it with you is this a collaborative thing that makes sense for you dope okay if so great if not well what does cool okay we like that all right let's build let's expand i told him mike that when he was there i said knowing care if he's going to call you to do something absolutely i mean me and mike's relationship now is we're we're 10 times back it took a
Starting point is 00:37:25 long time to get to where we are now but I'm I'm happy at the the road of like dumb shit because it got us to a place of real grown man shit and you know it's it's not we're not we're not doing the dumb like tweets and shit no more like Mike call me I'm calling you and we we talked so you know when I did Mike was the first one we got on the phone we had a conversation and me and Mike are are very much on the same page And I think, you know, a lot of the disconnect was from assumption. And that's what, that's the realization that came about. But I have no, it will, no beef towards anybody.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Damn sure not, Mike. And, you know, right now, the priority between me and Mike are figuring out the thing that we're going to do together. And, you know, I told Mike, like, it's a real thing. Like, we haven't done it because of this disconnect in our relationship. We've never been on schooling together. We did real husbands together. In the beginning, Mike did an episode. And that's the only time where we've ever joust it on camera.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And I was like, at this point in our career, like, we're not fucking nobody but ourselves. So, you know, how do we make it work? And he's like, yeah, Kev, like, how do we make it work? And it's a mutual understanding. And I think now having that as a priority, his fans will be happy. My fans, I think it'll be happy. And I think it'd be dope for the culture when we do it. Yeah, where is that version of Harlem Knights for this era?
Starting point is 00:38:53 It's hard to happen because the idea of it being just one is what people can't let go of. Which means? Like there doesn't have to be just one star. Well, Harlem Nights wasn't just one star. It was so many. That's why it worked. Richard didn't give a fuck about Eddie.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Eddie didn't give a fuck about Richard. Right? Like the two biggest fucking comedians. You know, minus the bullshit. The only person that was missing that should have been in that, you know, Cosby in some degree, right? A showing of him. But they had Red Fox.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Robin fucking Harris. Like if you go on, you look at the names, you know, fucking Deloese. Like you look at the names and the people in Harlem Knights. You looked at a fucking conglomerate cast of hard-hitting comics of color. We don't have that to date. The attempts to do it,
Starting point is 00:39:48 shots out to Chris Rock, top five. Yeah. Putting comics in, whether you are a fan of the movie or not. The attempt was, I want to see, I want to see comics of color share the screen together, and I want to get down. Tracy, Leslie, Chris, like, I want to get down. Let's go back and forth. Let's do some shit. Death at a funeral.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Chris, attempted to put comics together. There's not a lot of examples. I would say life, to a certain extent. Life is dope, but you don't, you had Eddie. and you had Martin, Bernie Mac, Bernie, Guy Torrey. You know, we didn't have like a woman figure in life, but I think, like, you've seen the attempt.
Starting point is 00:40:35 But there is no, like, there is no initiative where it's like, okay, look, we're all going to fucking share the same level of pay and we're all going to play on the back end. This is how I would approach it. Everybody's going to win on a back end. Okay, let's remove money from the idea. This isn't about who's getting the money or who's doing what. It's about the project.
Starting point is 00:40:57 So we're going to do our best in this project to put people in position to win. Winning mean, memorable moments, laughs, funny, et cetera. But to do it right, everybody's not going to be on the same page. Like, you got to have an understanding of who has to carry the weight here for the people here to fucking get in and get down. When you can have that conversation and people are okay with it, all right, it's great. but that conversation can never be had because people are bumped out the gate
Starting point is 00:41:23 I ain't working with him I ain't working with her I ain't doing fuck that they got me like I ain't the funniest nigga I'm like you can't even get to the fucking second page and even when it comes to like the Yunker comics man I it's been a few of
Starting point is 00:41:37 like DC Youngfly has countless scripts that he has and he's trying to get all of us like in this generation but egos and and what she gonna be getting and who gonna be the main character? You're up, I ain't working with her.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Or how he, you know what I mean? So the problem with the younger generation of comics, man, I made money so fast. Mm-hmm. Good money. Yeah. Like not like, not a little money, they made money so fast. So definitely the idea of doing that for that, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I'm over here getting, it's like the idea. Just barely come here now. I mean, just, just, just made money. still making money right like just understands that road money that road money is a different type of money these comics or new comics influencers turncom are making real money so until you get to a point where you understand the money isn't going to drive your next stage of success if your next stage of success or want for success is attached to IP projects whatever you cannot do it by yourself you need the helping aid of other talent i don't give a fuck who you are i'm saying this as
Starting point is 00:42:53 a pound for pound conglomerate in the business respectfully and humbly a conglomerate i stack the deck i'm not looking to fucking be on screen and be the only person i stack the fucking deck when and where i can by the way and i'm very i'm very thankful to the other names that are willing to come and work with me and do things with me I was excited Samuel L. Jackson is doing thank you God Sam Don Cito oh
Starting point is 00:43:24 thank you Taraji oh thank you Terrence thank you like I'm I'm thankful you cannot be the only one into that younger generation my message to so many funny
Starting point is 00:43:41 like I can go down the list D.C. Young Fly who you just mentioned Country Wayne, Desi Banks fucking Drewski Kassan, not just you got Pretty V you got B.Samo
Starting point is 00:43:52 you got all of these fucking new faces Carlos Ryan Davis right 85 soft all those guys you got all these
Starting point is 00:43:58 fucking great new emerging pieces of talent I'm going to tell you right now talent caps out where it is
Starting point is 00:44:09 when what you do is all you think you should do in other words like if if i'm just doing stand-up comedy and then doing stand-up comedy i do the theaters and arenas okay i can't do that every year and that's it it will flatline it will die down at some point maybe not today maybe not tomorrow but at some point it will digress so if you don't offload and you don't figure out i'm tapping into this and i'm tacking into this i'm tapping into that this thing and's one source of energy that you have it'll get a little
Starting point is 00:44:42 That light ain't going to fucking flicker the same. So if they don't tap into each other and figure out the way to make each other a valuable resource and asset, it will tap out. We're assets to one another. Like, say what you want.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Me and the Rock are assets to one another, man. DJ and I will get on the phone. We talk now, hey, man, it's time for us to do something. We've got to figure out the next thing. What you're thinking? I don't know. Is it Jimonji 3? Is it another problem? What are you thinking? I don't know. What's you thinking? Let's talk. Let's figure it out. Hey, man, you know who I want to work with?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Who I haven't worked with? Man, man, Idris, I've got to get down with Idris. I've yet to do something. I'm tapping into other energy. I don't want to be the only source of energy. That's the only way that you continue to move forward. Writers, producers, I want to work with you. Man, you're doing amazing things.
Starting point is 00:45:31 You're an amazing writer. How do I work with you? Kai, you're doing amazing shit in this streaming space, man. I got some shit to show you. I'm going to work with you. Like, you've got to tap in. That's what people are afraid of. to do and they're afraid to do it especially in our culture because we feel like there can only
Starting point is 00:45:46 be one that's right that's some good as advice too though because you know that is the toughest thing trying to convince this this generation that there is another level and what you're doing does have an expiration date if you don't diversify your portfolio one thousand percent is it's building correctly and by the way don't have to do it all in one day man you know i'm i'm almost 30 years strong in this fucking business you don't you don't have to do it all in one day the discovery is exciting when you start to figure it out and you start to see the things that you're changing or things that you're driving towards work that's the exciting part and the exciting part is when you're like oh shit i actually can't do the shit that i'm thinking
Starting point is 00:46:25 about like oh fuck damn i started off doing these videos and now the videos are turned into a business but now the business has turned into a touring job now my radio job fucking all sets promotes the fucking touring by the way my businesses are connecting the dots are connecting say what you want you can hate me or you can love me i connect dots i connect dots very well every piece of this machine somehow connects in some way in some shape and some form so at the end of the day if this piece dies well you can't kill this one if this one dies and this one dies well I got this one if these three die well they don't know I got these the dots are important man and that younger mindset
Starting point is 00:47:09 in this business today is a cash driven mind the money will come I'm telling you the money will come the idea is don't the relationships and the partnerships don't that's the difference
Starting point is 00:47:23 Kevin gotta go too guys I mean I don't want to do this I'm saying great energy great energy I do you have a question cap I do you have a sign like you know because people interview you all the time right and it got to get to a point where you be like
Starting point is 00:47:36 I'm tired I got to go Do you have like a side? He'll just say he got a fucking goal. No, no, no, no. You scratch your head twice or you pick your nose and like. I just be like, all right, guys, that's it. It's time to wrap it up, right? What do you have?
Starting point is 00:47:45 We've been here. I think we did it. We got everything. We touched on everything. Little Kev dropping. I'm excited about it. Adult animation, BET Plus. Once again, shouts out to BET.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Shouts out to my amazing team and heartbeat, man. Shouts out to Mike Stein, Tiffany Brown, who worked so hard. Shout out to Malcolm. Oh, God, I just dropped the name of my other right now. I'm so sorry on our development side who helped get this shouts out to Wanda
Starting point is 00:48:12 Dionne Cole so many other names Yes Ms. Pat So many of the names Slet Johnson, Cree Summer Jamon neighbors Yes it's so many people that are part of this project
Starting point is 00:48:24 that have made it what it is today and once again this is a passion project man This is a piece of IP that I worked on for a long time and to have it finally come to light It's dope as fuck It's funny as fuck
Starting point is 00:48:37 Uh, it's raw, it's edgy, um, you know, and it's a, it's a true testament to my mom and my dad who aren't here. So RIP to the hearts upstairs. Um, and maybe down, you know, my dad, they say it could be. Man, cut it out, man. They say, I don't know. So, uh, you know, just in the middle. My dad in the middle. That's right. Shout out the pops wherever you are.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what side, but you, uh, this is a, you don't want to assume. I don't want to assume. I don't want to say, if God ever closed the door, my dad, It might have been on the outside. But it's a testament to them. So I can't wait if you guys enjoy it, BT Plus. Watch it, lock it in. Number one of the call sheet. Shout out to Fox.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Lock it in. And you're at Radio City Music Hall all weekend. That's right, tonight, Friday, and Sunday. Friday and Sunday. And last for not least, man, I want to give a big shout out to my guys before I go. You know, I've talked about the younger generation. I've talked about, you know, energy and servicing energy. I want to talk about my energy source for a reason.
Starting point is 00:49:36 And, or just for a quick moment. Plastic Cup Boys, man. Shout out to Naim. Shout out to Spank. Shouts out to Joey Wells. You know, I'm excited about comedy still because my guys still make me work. Naim, pound for pound. Naim, one of the funniest motherfuckers on the planet.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Constantly creating, constantly developing new materials. Spank, one of the funniest people on the planet. Joey, billed me for years. When the funniest people on the planet, shouts out to those guys for making me stay as sharp as I am by being as sharp as they are. Now, he's out here inspiring governors. Governor Gretchen Whitmer love Naïne. Wrote about Naim and her book.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Talks about how when she gives speeches, she quotes Naim's shockweek motherfucker joke. You know, listen, let me tell you something about Naim. Naim is the most emotional comic. So we talk about, like, comments and shit like that. Naim used to go to Ticketmaster, and he would read, like, the comments. Like, he would read them all.
Starting point is 00:50:25 So here coming, like, the dressing room after the show, he'd be like, did you see what they said about me? No, not. What they say? this is bullshit he's like nah why are you reading that he's I just go on it but once you win it he would really like
Starting point is 00:50:43 he would go back and forth with people like what the fuck you talk about obviously you got there late like he would like he would go back and forth with people on ticket master he would go to people that had like bad things to say he would go back to foot for him man I love him no that's it I'm done that's the breakfast club
Starting point is 00:51:00 it's Kevin Hart y'all wake that ass up Earl, in the morning. The Breakfast Club. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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