The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: Mandii B & WeezyWTF On Rebranding, New Book 'No Holes Barred,' 'Traphous' Pilates + More

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

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Jess hilarious. Sholomey and the guy. We are the breakfast clubs. We got some special guests in the building. Yes, indeed. We have Mandy B. N. Weezy from Horrible Decision, but they taste the name. Thank you. It is decision.

We need a whole podcast. Is that possible? No. Yes, it is. It is. It is absolutely possible. You can delete your wholeness? You grow up.

You can move to a different city where no one knows you. And then you can change your Instagram. Someone who works at the grocery store. They said, hey, you can't delete it. Well, good morning, ladies. Good morning. Why did y'all change the name? For the coins, Charlotte.

Oh. Not only that, when we started horrible decisions, we were 26 years old. I was still in college. I was in my last year of college. Weezy, we were both in corporate. and we was kind of living life doing all the thing and we just kind of

your whole phase we wasn't our whole phase I think everyone has a whole phase and now we're out of it and we just are growing with our audience and growing with the dollars to be fair

doing this book though you know I was telling people like I want to do Drew Barrymore I want to do this and that and I just can't see them saying horror especially not Drew Barrymore she's not about the

Drew Barrymore going still rub our knee though and now she might be like and why did you just feel the need It's okay to be a whore But, no, I mean, with growth And also wanting to be respected as an author I feel like for the people that don't know us

Everybody that is in the podcast world understands our evolution And I think that's when we started to gain our respect To know that, sure, we talk about sex But it lasted so long We've been able to catapult And to all these different ventures But a new person, I feel like, they'll be like

How do you feel about your fans? Like, how you think the fans took it? Like, that y'all took the horrible off? I think the fans love it. I think the core fans are happy I think the casual fans just found a way to get angry at you Like people get very excited if they think something bad is going on You know what I mean?

Like literally the second they saw that horrible would be going behind a paywall It's like out they fight in Charlotte don't want that I hard done with them Like you know it's they can't wait to feel that And Mandy and I being that we've been colleagues for so long We've had on-air mess and things like that I feel like that was the sexiest part of the story When really now we're so much older

It's like okay you're Mandy's celibate, right? You still celibate? Oh, yeah, no. It's over? Uh-uh. I started the year off, you know, with a bang. I just seen you a couple of months ago.

I was celibate when I saw you. She was like, yo, E, I'm celibate. Fuck that, I'm starting over. That wasn't even though a couple months ago. It was a couple weeks ago. That was your Magic City moment? Oh, that was it. Yeah, I love how you said club.

You could let them know we were in Magic City. We was in Magic City. We was in Magic City. You know, that's the first thing she told me. It wasn't like E has your family. See, yo, what up, E? E. I'm celipate now.

I was like, who made you break the celibacy vile? I saw somebody cute. So it wasn't even relationship. Did you already went or sitting up in time of a homeless can't be deleted? I mean, it was intimate. It is.

I mean, it was intimate. It was sensual. We kissed and cuddled. Have you seen him since? He doesn't live in my state, so he's flying to see me, yes.

Wow. All right. All right. One night stand or something? No, no, no. We're about to go to the second stand. No, I'm saying. When your first stand, I was going to go to the one-night stand.

What's the first stand? The first stand was great. It was when I saw him. So, y'all didn't date. Y'all just, you see them in it. No, okay? Now, listen, I'm just not celibate anymore, okay? And this is what the book is about, about liberation, growth, as women getting what you want.

Did you meet him at Magic City that night? No, I met him on an island. Ooh. So, you know women. Nandy got to move that. What island? Say, Croy. Which was absolutely great.

So you was on vacation and you lived one of my island boys. Yes. Which now I see, uh-uh, don't do that. But now I do see why women go to islands and it was great. Now you see that I see that. Let me tell you, they booked us to go to hedonism

if no one's ever heard of this. I've been there. We know you've been there. We know you've been there. I had didn't, I wasn't dating at anybody at the time. So I'm like, let me just bring somebody fine. I know. So there was a ball player that I knew.

And I was like, just come. He was in Europe, he was off-season. He got there. He wasn't even, he's not crazy basketball playing at all, but he was 6-5, dark-skinned and fit. When I tell you every white woman with her husband about that's at breakfast. Oh, yeah.

He was having sex before we put in. In the bush. In a bush. But no, that's what if you, like, I went to hedonism on some radio station trips. When I used to work for Wendy Williams at WBLS, they used to do radio station trips to hedonism. So hedonism is a nudist resort, parts of it,

and they have like hammocks hanging from the trees. You can have sex in hammocks. You can have sex all over the whole facility if you want to. You got mirrors on the ceiling. No disrespect. But is a lot of like overweight white women? No.

No, we went. So we went during a black weekend. Yeah, there's different weekends that you could go. Like I'm hosting Hito Labor Day weekend with a black travel. So when a group takes over it, like we got lucky. But then there was a few parts of the place. They were like, we come every weekend. It was like, oh, yeah.

The white couples definitely go to get Jamaican, Jamaican P. By the way, the funniest part of this, I always tell this story, because, first of all, he's already having sex in the bush. We just check in. I'm like, I'm done with him already. So there's a nude side and a prude side, right? Yep, yep, yep.

So we were saying, yep, yep, that's right. So the prude side means you can keep your clothes on. So, you know, when you're at a resort, you know how they have you having the buffets or whatever. So I'm hungry. I go to get a pizza. I'm already irritated with him

because all he's doing is sleep with people in the bush. And I'm trying to get some pizza. I'm ordering his pizza, and the security guard comes up and saying, man, you have to be naked on the side. I'm like I gotta get naked just to eat He's like yeah How long is your food gonna take

I had to literally take off my pajamas Hold them in my hand And sit there naked and wait for food And I was like this is the worst place ever When I said I loved it So when is it become trafficking You didn't pay it in his jacket I know traffic it doesn't

No man I was booked for it Like you know like we were out there And just like And we had a great time But I've gone out there with friends When you're gonna snap out of it You can't And they pay you.

Like, these couples be paying. Like, you might be out there and you might holl at a woman and she might be like, hold on, I'm going to go get my husband. They might come up to you and be like, y'all get $500 if you let my husband watch us have sex. Now, see, we didn't get offered for those type of things.

Charlotte, were they? Oh, yeah. So maybe it's the men. The men should go out there and make some money then. So lady came up to you and wanted to see you smash your husband? Well, this is, first of all, let's put this in context. This was like 2006, 2007.

I was on the balcony and I was like, You know, you know, a girl, you're like, yeah, you're like, yeah? And she's like, hold on, let me go get my husband. And then she was like, yes, and we can do it, but my husband got to watch. Oh, wow. So after you knocked it off? No, I didn't knock it off. Oh, okay.

I did not knock it off. No. So that's the thing that really kind of makes that whole thing beautiful, as much as I'm joking about it. All of this is normal for these people in the world. You know what I mean? Like, a lot of the things we talk about even as normal to us, if I say my man and I are going on a date with somebody, people are looking at me, like, I'm crazy. But this is normal for me.

So when I'm a hedonism and I'm watching Cuck Holding going on, which is really what it is, this is normal for them. And they like to be amongst their people. I just, it happened to be one of the people that wanted to get pizza with clothes on. Excuse me. So yeah, no, it's a no for me. You only change nothing with the name. Don't do that.

That's all in your name. We're growing. We're growing. I'm trying to think mine. What? Besides this blazer. What's the biggest rebrand thing of me? I will say this. I think now I'm so over-communicative. We're in the beginning of horrible decisions. I wasn't talking about exactly what I wanted, my feelings, even the type of sex that I wanted to have, like situationships. I was falling into them all the time. I think as you evolve and you get more comfortable with yourself and who you are, that's when it hits. I actually don't think that could happen before 30, I'm going to be honest. I think you could try to get close to it, but there's something that happens at 30 where it just clicks you like, oh no, this is. No, 30, you look better, you feel better, you make more money, you know a little bit more of what you want. You didn't dealt with enough men in your teens and

20s that now you can be like okay I don't want that but this is what I want Do y'all want a monogamous relationship? No Do you want marriage? Anybody want marriage? Yeah, I don't Do you want a monogamous relationship? Not monogamous but I mean of course I want marriage I'm like What is it? We're not gonna have sex with a nanny What's the point?

No I mean yeah go ahead I mean I don't know why why why why why why not monogamy both yeah yeah why so what you? Just doesn't fit in my lifestyle like I I've I've been known for having a boyfriend and a girlfriend since I've been 20 years old. Like, it's, it's... Isn't it matter what you're known for or what you want, though? It's a difference. We had a conversation about this last night.

I did a podcast where I mentioned that I believe Mandy and I have done this so well because we really live this life. And a lot of times what's kind of hurt me from the public is people say, oh, you're just doing that to keep them. Or you let your man have sex with someone else because you want to keep them?

And it's like, you think I'd be doing this for eight years if I really didn't enjoy this? I honestly have fun with it. And I feel like when I'm dating someone that's more monogamous mainly when I date religious men they look at me like I'm trash and I know you date religious man why would you do that? You know a little Jesus

I'll never do that again. What about you man? Ethel non-monogamy I want to throw that word in there so that's where like it's consensual there's like there are boundaries you are communicating and it's under the umbrella where you could be poly open like there's you could be swingers there's all these different labels underneath ethical non-monogamy. For me I like men and women

and I don't want to not be able to experience both off of that. So, were y'all they're bisexual men? And the reason I asked that, who was up here and they said that it wouldn't bother them? Damn, Dochi. Dochi. I heard Dochi talk about it.

Would y'all mind? It wouldn't bother me. No, not at all. I don't want to see it. For me, it's a cardiac. So the thing that attracts me to women is their femininity. Like, I've never dated a stud, right?

And no disrespects because you're hitting on the studs. Because you were doing, you feel like you did a man, right? When punky came on horrible, I was like, I don't know. is she cooking Britney Griner the only stud I've We all got one I want Britney Grinette

That's the only one As far as men I love the masculinity in men And so if I was dating A bisexual man That maybe like a homo thug That's what I'm saying Like they're still masculine

Give me one of them ATL So you wouldn't mind But he just got to be a thug You want a thug on a thug There's also levels to it right So I really truly believe Every man has had some sort of experience I think everybody a little gay

For real for real If you're a little kid All men are a little All men are a little gay. Like, what does that mean? There's a, there's a spectrum, the Kinsey scale. Everyone is not all the way fully straight or fully gay. Yes, K-I-N-S-D-Y.

Like a little gay. Like a little guy, like you can even, and it could be as little as you can actually admit that another man is attractive or a good-looking man. Or you could have to be classified as gay. Well, because it's the attraction to the same sex. But no. You can say a man is handsome, but attractive means you feel. something towards him.

I like how you did that. You did. You did. You did. No, you did. You were like, you said a man in his hands. You did.

You did. I was a little gay. Because you do have men that won't even do that. Then I think, you know, there's so many men that would say they ran trains in high school. There's another man

that wouldn't get naked in front of a lot. Train three-sense. Like, there is levels. I don't think that's cake, by the way. That's why I said a little. If you don't stick you a penis in a male, that's not gay. But why?

You and another man are enjoying. All y'all got your dicks out. Yeah. Oh. Did you hear what I mean you just say? What? He said, It's not gay

if you stick your penis in the mail. No, I said it's not gay. Unless you're not sticking your penis in the mail. You hate what you want to hear. It sounded like you said, it's not gay if you stick a penis in the mail. You got gay. You got gay.

You got gay. Your ears are gay. So, Envy, as long as it's oral then. No. It's fine. Okay. No. A hand job?

No. Okay. I just. Okay, I'm looking at the Kinsey scale. See? It's a real thing. It says X, no sociosexual sexual sexual, contacts or reactions.

Zero is exclusively heterosexual. One, mostly heterosexual, only slightly homosexual. Two, mostly heterosexual, but more than slightly homosexual. Three, equally heterosexual and homosexual. Four, mostly homosexual, but more than slightly

heterosexual. Five, mostly homosexual, only slightly heterosexual. And six, is all homo. I swear I just like the days wave you were straight or gay. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot. No, by the way, I have a friend. of mine, his name is Christopher.

And on New Year's, five, six years ago, I'll never forget. I kissed him. Like, oh, my God! He's gay. Kiss him? He looked at me and he was like, you bitch, I am gay, gay. And now you ruined it. He's a six. He's a six. When I tell you, he was really upset with me, I was like, I'm so

confused. I just thought you're having fun. He's like, no, no, no, no. I am not Gold Star. He's like, I didn't even have, I came from a C-section. I'm platinum. He was like, and you kissed me. You ruined this. You messed him up. Now we fell a little straight. That's who I would define as a six. I don't know one thing Toronto might have to re-six that six thing, knowing that six is the highest

on the Kinsey scale. Exclusively homosexual if you're a six. That's what it says. Just I feel like you all the way. Gay? No. You give me hot straight girl that got one lesbian friend. She'd be doing this.

She'd be like, now, bitch. Yeah, that's me. But I ain't going to lie. Back in the day, yeah. I had a couple gay experiences. Yeah. Like kiss? A little bit more to kiss

But, you know Yeah, I dated a stud for like a little minute Until I found out she was married And she ended up being a fucking clown Oh, you're number two And then Yeah, mostly heterosexual But more than slightly homosexual

Yeah It might be a little three I think she dated three But see she dated a stud So that always tells me Like you kind of are the straight girl That's like where you can dive into it Because I don't I don't find like

The fims to be attractive Like yeah you're beautiful to me but I'm not, I wouldn't be attracted to a feminine girl. Like, it's like, no, I don't need to so. But y'all have the same crush, too. Who? Y'all too, manny, you're a manny. You have the same crush.

Brittany? Who? Brittany, you're Britney. I think a lot of you have a crush on her. Done, everybody wants me? Yeah. Until I heard her to call herself pops, I'm like, damn. Oh, no.

You know. What's on with pops? Ah, nah. There's certain things that you can say that make you just, instant corny. It's just like, no. I thought you think you like masculine energy. You see what I mean?

No, no, I'm saying like, Well, she already got the voice of God. I mean, that's so like the old state, nigger. But, I mean, I just, you know, she ain't like when she was doing an interview. And Shane liked when somebody was like, the girl was like, oh, you're about to be a mom, you know. And she was like, no, pops. Like, she got serious with it. I was like, damn.

But I, but I wouldn't just assume that if I never heard her to say that, like, I wouldn't just, congratulations, you're your mom. I wouldn't just be like, your congratulations. Like, you pops now because I think that that would offend her. But she was offended at her being called mom. Gotcha. I told Britney, Dad. Yeah. Brimmy Dad.

I would. Let me tell you. When all that stuff was going on, I was like, we got to get her out. We got to get her out. But I'm okay with still having her as a crash. I'm okay with letting her go. Mandy can't have her because my boyfriend looked just like her. That's crazy.

That is crazy. Sorry, Chris. Listen, as someone that also has a pretty boyfriend, I know how it feels. I went and took him to a show, but it was a lesbian show. literally like a queer comedy night and she was like oh yeah I saw you were there with your girlfriend I was like that's a man

and he just got dressed and he pretty see it sucks but it's great but your man gets slight shooter though no he do give shooters yeah he gives slight shooter right he gives slight shooter too

yeah but he's a ho-tep it's weird like he looks like he's a what he's a ho-tip a ho-tip a ho-tip a hot tip a hot tip he makes we're fasting right now

I'm so I'm about to die on this table he's we fast What the fuck is a ho-tap? A ho-tap? You don't know what a ho-tap is? What the fuck is a ho-taps out? I can't take it no more. Okay?

That is not what it is. That is not what it is. Wait, Envy, this is, there's no way that this hasn't crossed over to you. A ho-tap? What the fuck is a ho-tapped? I'm doing with a ho-tapped out.

I don't know what a ho-tap is. I don't know what a ho-tap is. It's a whole-tap. Okay, I'm being, I'm being facetious. What's a whole tip? A ho-top is like, you know, One of them, like, oh, meditative, like, all pro-black, power to the people.

Like, we can't be doing X, Y, Z. But like, the fuck, hoes? You know, he's still on the whole part. Oh, no, a whole part of it. That's it. Do you know who 19 Keyes is? Yes, I mean, that's my favorite Hotap. Okay.

I joke. Oh, so, like, Dr. Umwa would be a moot type of type of. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I got, so she's dating. It's an Egyptian word that means to be at peace. Oh, okay. It does mean at peace, which was what 19-10.

But y'all said Hotap, so I'm just thinking something. Of course you are. Of course you are. Every thing that they talk about. So with decisions, decisions, is it less sex talk? Like, is it less? Yeah. We're leaning more into the conversations around relationships.

So non-traditional relationships, non-monogamy, all the ways that you don't have to go about the traditional way of dating and pursuing love. Essentially because us growing up, what is it? Get married, have kids, live happily ever after. Correct. That's not everyone's reality. But it's cool. because we're diving into history, which we always kind of did during horrible,

but now it's fun. Like, we talk about the history of romance, the first date. Even the history of romance is dope. I was when we were talking about. Like how the first date was different. There had to be a male caller at your home, knocking on the door, asking your parents, they were supervising you.

Oh, I'm an idiot. I thought you meant, like, y'all documented the first date ever in history. When you said histories, I was like, oh, the first date ever? We ended up in a time machine. How it evolves over time. even the history of romance, how, you know, you marry for like...

You're talking to some dumb holes, right here. Listen. I'm not a hole, okay? I retired a long time ago. Me too. Not you're just dumb. Me too. Now, the history of the romance shoot was crazy because it basically, romance was a sickness.

And they believed when people were in battle or in war, they would start a war over love. And they were like, oh, yeah, you can't fall in love. So that's why you would marry for agriculture, socioeconomic stuff. And it's just fun to dive into this because we already have been talking about sex and dating so long so now we just get to go back and people enjoy learning about stuff with us and we're not scholars so that's what makes it fun to me not

now also so now you've got a book coming out as well we do we do under Charlemagne's imprint what's the name of the book? No holes borrowed it's a duo man so any hole no holes barred listen all of them it's a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power and so we each dive into

our journeys as women I did a lot of diving in therapy like going all the way back to, like, my childhood as to maybe why I date the type of men I date. What type of me do? I mean, everything that's not my daddy, so non-short Jamaicans. Jesus. But I go into that, and even as early as me, like, talking about my journey of having anal sex

and how I used to think any man that wanted it was gay. Because I was like, well, why would you want that back hole when there's another hole in? So I. Five. Oh, that was funny. The Kinsey Skate. I thought you're like, just mid. No.

But it was, it like goes through my journey of even like having to relearn and unlearn the things that aren't true. And then we even get deep and we talk about like our sexual assaults. I talk about my abortion when I'm 16. The way that the book is broken down is cool because like when we get into that stuff. So it's pleasure, pain, progression and empower. So like in the pain section, that's when abortion and sexual assaults. salt comes up, but there's also a story of a dude BDSM, BDSM, like tying me up, spanking me, choking me, like, Mandy getting electrocuted. That's my favorite.

What? Yeah, it was great. It was great. I went to a dungeon with my ex, and we agreed to both do two things that we had never done before. So he agreed to allow me to put him in a chastity belt, which took some time because he kept growing and he couldn't grow in order to lock come in. And then I allowed him to do electroshock inside of me with a tool. What happened to you as a child? A dildo electric? Yeah. And so like it like spawned all of these electro currents inside of me. And it was the best feeling. It felt like almost like an alien. I was like I'm never going to

feel this again. It felt like eight tongues inside of me giving me oral at once. It was the best feeling. I was like, this ain't a normal feeling. You got to get it. It was great, though. So this is why you can't be one person. One person can't just be doing all that and to be honest. I don't ride. So I would love for my partner to be able to experience everything. He wants to experience that I'm not down it. But you mean you don't ride? I don't get on top.

Let me go get you somebody acrobatic. You mean you can be electrocuted. But I ain't getting on top. But I ain't getting on top. Nope. It takes more effort I guess. Oh yeah. I just came back from Carnival in the way them girls were whining their hips and doing all the splits. I said my man deserves to experience a woman.

that flexible. It ain't me, though. Isn't that a position of powerful women though? When they're what? In my pain. And it's the strongest orgasm. That's great that y'all receive it that way. You got a rhythm? No, no, no. Oh, me. I'm half white. No. But you also have Jamaica. I know. I know. So it goes, it goes

both. It goes both. You know, I do a little bit of everything. Okay, all right. Well, what what makes you have an orgasm? Oh, penetration, which is why I can't be fully gay. Like, and I want, I want a member with a, with a That is literally gayness. This is all we do. No, no, no, no.

I want, I want... There's 10 of them right here. I don't want no much. I'm not like that. You had a right girl. But I like a man body. There's just so many things I like about men. A girl could knock you up with a strap on, no, right?

Yeah, no, it needs to have a pulse. I like the finishing what comes from the man. Girls have pulses? I mean, the strap on. It's just like there. She liked the finish. And I like the, I like the client. I like that.

Like, when I had a girlfriend, we maybe once in a blue used them for fun. And after a while, we was like, uh. No. It's just something about it. Maybe because her and I both slept with men before, it's just like, no, that's not what we hear. Oh, yeah, no, and I like the finish. I feel like I've always felt that toys.

So something I talk about in the book even is like, I realize after having a girlfriend that gay sex, as far as lesbian sex, is that we see. It's really for the male gay. It's not that sexy. It's not that pretty. Sometimes you be rubbing, you could you be on the neck, arm. It's like you start rubbing stuff everywhere.

It's not exactly what we, We think it is. Nothing crazy than watching two lesbians with a scrap on and one of them sucking the scrap on. And the person that got the scrap on is moaning. That's a former mental illness, man. Sex is actually 90% psychological. But you moaning while somebody's sucking a scrap on?

Okay, so no one moans when they suck you? But it's a strap on. But I'm not feeling anything by giving it to you and I may be moaning. I got the scrap on. What the young I may tell you? What the young I may tell you? What the young I may tell you when you ask for the same thing? But I'm just saying it just seems

because right after you finish second I can take it off and throw it in the closet So I think that's what he's saying Like how is that any benefit to you? It's like you can be having phone sex and you moan And like she said You can be giving any moan There's something about the action

And also keep it in mind This is power play Because it's sexy watching you do it This is all BDSM right? So you're being in the dominant position That's how people wearing it get off It's like they know that you're on your knees, you're being submissive,

humiliate, whatever the word is. So that's where they're getting a turn off from. What was your crazy sexual experience? If that was her getting electrocuted, what's yours? Hers is nasty. Herz is nasty. Oh, wait. No, it actually can't go on radio.

But I'll just say. We'll put it behind a Patreon. Go ahead. Okay. You're real? Y'all got a Patreon? This ain't going on YouTube. No, they don't have a Patreon.

She said, okay. She got something about blood. Girl, I'm just saying. Yeah, see. Okay, here's what I have you. Oh, boy. My man basically was just... I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson.

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And I was like, oh, my God, you don't love me. I feel bad. You know, but just be complaining. I've dated them, so I know. And he was like, why are you feeling like that? Why do you feel like just because you on your period? I don't love you. I'm not attracted to you.

And I was like, I just feel that way. And we were in the car. And he put the car in part. And he said, put your fingers inside of yourself. I'm like, no. And then he did it. He ate it. And he said, do you think I love you now?

And it was like, it was like salt break. And now this motherfucker There's no way to be found But now you broke up with that man What you mean? He's my man right now? Is it? Oh, that's right.

Damn, man. You're going to put him out there like that. She said, we're blood brothers now. Hey, y'all. But. Why God. Damn. I would say.

He's from Brooklyn, right? He's a vampire from Brooklyn. He's a vampire from the Bronx. Vampire from the Bronx. God, damn. But you know what it is that's really dope about it? Yes. You're listening to this right now.

Watch it is. You're like, this is disgusting. but I think it's just that when you have no boundaries with someone, it's sexy. Y'all got to get married. Oh, of course we are. You just told everybody on the radio, I hate you out on your period.

We got to get married now. And you said it was blood trickling on your mouth. That is not what she said. That's what she did? She was like a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. But I did put that in the book because I was like, yo, every time you think you've reached a level sexually, you know, there's so many things on our list.

But listen, we definitely live a wholesome life. We had a threesome with this woman Went on a date with her It was a wild night So wholesome And my father He's in a nursing home right now And we had to make sure we were there

In the morning to go see him We got up, we were sitting there He played checkers and stuff We look at each other like Yeah, we really just looked at this last night And we're really here Having his family moment It's like

Our sex life is our sex life We ain't bring your daddy no hose That's what he really is That's crazy That's crazy That's crazy My dad's so married What's funny about it?

And your mama fine. Thank you. And she would love to hear that. She knows she loves you. She went to go to Charlemagne's book tour and she was like, he was looking at me. And I was like, is it because he knows who I am or he's looking at me? Girl, okay, you know.

Both. Happy birthday. Oh, happy birthday. Oh, happy birthday. Happy birthday. What's the birthday? Oh, sorry, it's 14th. Okay.

Whatever do things? I don't know. Have y'all ever been sexually? Never. Never. You said that so fast, like, I don't even look at her like that. Have you all ever had sex? Never.

We've never. Okay. Never. Why would you? Never. Was you really about to ask me why do people think that? Are you crazy? To be honest with you?

I don't feel like Mandy and I give the energy like we've never. No, no, no. I've been listening to the harbor for a long time. There was a point where I was like, yo, they got to be some sexual. Like, yeah, definitely bumping. I did feel like that for a second. No. Oh, my God.

It's just, yeah, I mean, it's, no, no, y'all don't seem like lovers at all. or nothing like that, but, I mean, what all this y'all got in common and how y'all just so... Well, Mandy did watch me have sex. She reminded me. So we're sitting with the... I didn't really watch. I was just on the bed.

Okay. Now... You was that horn. You couldn't say Mandy can you leave? No, no, no. She was scared because she met him at the club. We was like 16 using fake IDs down in Miami Memorial Day weekend. She found a guy she liked the club. Yes.

That's my way. Let's tell you was crazy about this story. I forgot this story, right? So we're talking to our co-author. And she's trying to dig stories out of us. So I said, you know, it's crazy. I've never had a one-night stand. Mandy's like, that's a lie.

I'm like, no, it's not. She's, I was right there on the bed. And I was like, oh. Now, anything pre-titties, I feel like don't count. See, this is why, see, the wholeness can be deleted. She's talking about pre-titties. It's like saying you can take miles off a car. You can't do that.

No, it was like, yeah. Literally, I mean, that was kind of back in the day, you know, like cell phone. I think we had psychics back then. Like, it wasn't to where, you know, you had so much access. So she wanted to fuck him. So I was like, okay, I'm going to sit. At 16? Yeah.

You don't know. Yeah. So y'all went to you up to Miami? We drove to Miami. We lived in Orlando. We had no teen pregnancies. You're lying. I had an abortion at 16.

I said we didn't have a teen pregnancy. Oh, yeah. I got rid of it first. How old was the guys? Clearly, he was. Maybe they were 18. I was like, well, I'm not trying to be. Not in Miami.

At least 21. Yeah, it was 21. He was in a club in Miami is 21 enough for guys. We have fake IDs. You think they didn't got fake ideas, Mandy? Nah. They were some jigs. They were staying together just like we were.

You didn't even remember him. Don't try to sit here and take for him. Back then, everybody was staying with each other back then. Nobody had no money. It was like nine of us in the rules. Oh, and it was no shame. No shame. Now you can't do that.

He had money. So he wasn't 19 because he had his own room. He wasn't shared with nobody. That wasn't no courtyard. It don't remember. Yo. Let me tell you. Oh, my goodness.

When I was. was really reflecting. This is chaos. I thought this was going to be way more different. You came in with a blazer I have on plaid. I don't understand how we're taking it here. Y'all want to have to spice up y'all morning and see? Let's go back to being.

Okay, so what is trap house? Oh, girl. So I've been going to workouts in New York for almost a decade and I love Pilates inspired movement and I love lifting. And so literally I went to a Pilates class. I'm not even joking. It was February this year and I was saying to the instructor, like, oh my God.

girl that was such an amazing workout thank you like i needed some like some trap or some she's like i'd never play that here and made me feel so small like and i was like i really was like i'll make that shit and so i and it's funny because someone said to me when i made it do envy wants to do hip-hop ballades who told you there maybe it was just someone i mentioned i thought about it because i don't i don't tell nobody especially not him but i go to pilates right because i don't want you to pull up on me look at my ass when I'm out there but anyway looking at his ass I heard lick me too

I heard looking I said looking what's on your mind so you're looking he might be a three or four but when you go to Pilates there's never no music that you let's no hip-hop music and it's hard you're shaking you know I'm saying so literally my favorite genres of music of all time and I listen to everything is

trap and house music so I was going to buy an apartment in New York right I had money I was like I got $150 can I buy a million dollar house and I was like no Either that or start a business. So because I'm not a fitness and trainer, I had to, you know, partner with someone. And so I found my favorite instructor in New York,

black dude's name of Jeff Blue. And I was like, yo, I want you to make this. And he literally was like, trap and Pilates, I'm like, I'm telling you, dog. And he did everything. We flew him to L'A. to learn Lagree. That's the really hard kind. And like training these instructors to do things

that people have never done. So, and it's funny because you'll see buff-ass dudes coming in here. They come in and they're shaking like crazy and then they go in the other one and they're shaking. And then the little girls that are super tiny can't do the lifting.

So everybody's doing something different but even as I've evolved, my partner, Brianda, she's like, all right, who's making the music? I'm like me. I got a good music taste. She's like, that's not enough.

So I had to get a music director and every step of the way I've tried to make this elevated just so a bitch can't knock. You know when it's a black-owned business and they'd be like, you ain't got this. Even the candles. I want a $5 dollar candles.

I'm like, got to be a little libo. Every single thing I made that I wanted to be luxury, especially because you walking in there and you hear Gizi talking about Hot Cheeto. Like, it gets real ghetto. It looked like business is booming, though, from what I see on Instagram. I haven't been able to take a class because it's been so busy. I wait because of those. Congratulations, though.

That's what I said. I want to do a group trip there, right? And you got to come to, Charlemagne. Well, duh. He wants you to look at me. I want to be sexually harassed. But I want to take a group trip. there and put everybody in Pilates for 50 minutes.

Oh, my God. Oh, it's hard, especially for the people that haven't done Pilates. Oh, I know. Oh, it's not easy. I used to go four times a week, five times a week. My wife and my daughter, we go together. Oh, so you're going to be good. It's mega-former, though.

It's heavy. Okay, yeah, that's fine. We do it all, but I enjoy it. People don't know how difficult it is, but how it helps you as well as far as strength is concerned. Yeah, why they don't either. The look of Pilates is skinny blonde white. Yeah, honestly.

I'm sitting here like, I ain't never had a desire to do it. So I was making jokes like, oh, we're going to open. We're going to have these white girls. They're going to be like, oh, what is Gucci Man Break? Like, I really thought that was going to happen. When I tell you, all black women, and it's mind-blowing to me. I actually wasn't ready for that. But just TikTok.

We were literally working out when I was in it the other day, and it was bop, fuck, fuck. None of my coochie. I was like, this is crazy. None of my coochie. Oh, okay. Oh, y'all. How did you promote it? I do like her.

Like her. How did you promote it? How did you get the word out so fast? Okay, so I truthfully was really worried about strategy because I didn't know. So I posted myself making something cool. You know, you can have a tastemaker vibe. Like, people know I like to party. They know I like music.

I thought that would work. It literally was just people TikTok. We've never made one TikTok. It's just genuine. A girl's like, listen, that ain't going away on the 19th about to hurt a whole lot. It's going to affect the economy. Like, there's a lot of people that make money off of there. Frank McCourt's going to buy it.

Frank McCourt and Project Liberty. Everybody be cool. But there's nothing like that. And I always say the biggest business is what makes people rich is to have something that nobody else has, right? And there's so many minorities that love Pilate. I'm the only black guy when I go. I'm usually the only guy when I go. I'm black.

But when I do go, I hate the music. So the fact that I was there, the first thing I said, where is it? I want to go. You know what I mean? Because I want to try it out because I would love to do it. Because it's already painful, right? You already trying to focus. But if I had the music that I enjoy, it makes it fun now.

And I can really go through it. So we're going to do a fair. only trip there. Oh, I made a code for everybody. Breakfast, there's $10 off. Even if you've already been, you can still use it. But with the house music, by the way, my mom is a studio 54 girl.

She's a black woman. I've been listening to house music my whole life. I've always thought it was black. I feel like all we know is show me love, but house music is black. I mean, I'm not playing that br-brant. I'm playing that shit. Follow me.

Why do you spell it H-A-U-S? Because I'm boogey. Oh, okay, okay. Because, I mean, it can still read as trap hose. Oh, here you go. So that's something like, why did you spell it like that? To be honest, it was because I feel like when we see the year or like a different version of house, we always think,

oh, this is like kind of, you know. And then I felt like a house, if someone Googled it, they might buy like a weed store. Yeah, trap house is just. Now, by the way, I wanted to call it Trapp Pilates, but shout out, I don't know who they are, but, you know, the trademark was taken in Atlanta. So, but we already know Atlanta got Trappolati.

I'm sure. They probably got to get Popolati. I mean, my goal, like, people be asking me to franchise. We've been open six days. People like, oh, can you franchise it? I'm like, oh, yeah, like, I got to learn from every way for you. That's a start for good, man. Congratulations.

But, you know, you don't give me all money when you're right. People don't talk about your entrepreneurial ventures enough, you know what I'm saying? You got WTF Media, man. Do you have the studio? I still have it over there. Yeah, it's just now need to know studios. Yeah, but I, um, I relocated to Atlanta. I have other opportunities professionally down there.

Um, but yeah, and right now I'm working on scripts and pitching those. Um, I just wrote another proposal for a book after writing the book with you. Um, I definitely just love the process. so I want to continue doing that. And yeah, I think over the last eight years, I think that's why we've been able to keep this going because we've both been able to just branch out individually and do the things that we really like to do.

Turning over your money that you made, like, when we got our first Black Effect check, it was so dope because to be on salary for a podcast is just like unheard of. And we were making, we quit our jobs before, you know? So like we were in this, doing this, but it's just mind-blowing that we've been able to take that business acumen and flip it.

because a lot of people think when you're a podcaster, people really don't know how I make money. Like, I think so many people think I have only fans when they meet me, which I get it. I feel like I can have to look, my tini's already out, like, okay. But content creation is one thing. And then it's like, well, business is another. Business is another.

Not only that is just diversifying as well, how you bring in money. So between Black Effect, now the book with Charlemagne as well, then we have Patreon. Then we tour. Shout out to Justin and merchandising. Doing panels. We have five different means of income. just for the podcast. So even though we're not

in the write-ups, like the other white podcast, talking about $100 million deals, our business and what horrible decisions does make seven figures a year. We are a seven-figure podcast. We're not a hundred million yet. We're not a hundred million. But we have seven figures. And we make that

yearly. So I love that. And then again, that's just one form of income. Again, she has her studio. I have my studio. We have other things that we do as well outside. So our decision is a business that generates money. And I love how y'all use that money to build other businesses. I honestly want every podcaster to start considering building another business.

It doesn't have to be brick and mortar, but like literally. Oh, yeah, shout out to you. What is your message? When you got into brick and mortar, even having the studio, like, dealing with an actual location and staff. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that ain't me. Do you know the owner of the building that is WTOF in Soho? So we got three buildings, four different studios, right?

The Soho dude hits me up about how someone filed an insurance claim. And I'm like, what? They were like, yeah, they fell about the bath. I was like, I'm so sorry to hear that. He was like, it's good. Like, he has huge buildings. He's like, I've already got this covered. But like, that's what's terrifying.

That can break a building, yeah. You know how much I spent trying to make sure to fit in the studio got a, yeah. That's your house. It's crazy. To me, all the businesses, though, all the projects, everything that we do creatively, those are my babies. As a woman that doesn't want kids

and when people talk about what legacy looks like and things, the things that I'm creating are going to outlive me. And my kids, if I had any, their kids. So to me, my legacy and what I'm leaving are the things and businesses that I'm creating. And I think Wee and I talk about it as well. I think it's wonderful that we're able to, like,

provide salaries and pay people. Like, even our horrible decisions team is like 10 people. And then she has her studio team. I have my studio and it's just like, it's great. How do y'all tape with you in Atlanta and you here in New York? How do y'all take the podcast? We both record. And she was just in Atlanta.

I go to L.A. Whenever we're in the same city, we find a studio and record. Gotcha. Honestly, too, like, I mean, shoot, you wasn't even, do you live here? Now I do. Now you do. But, yeah, like, you make it work, you know what I'm saying? I remember when I first heard that, like, Just didn't live here when she was first working.

I was like, wow. But, like, your home is your home. Like, what are you going to do? Your job, I think should be secondary. So, Mandy, I felt that Atlanta coming. And I was like, oh, my God, she's going to do it. She's going to do it. Oh, yeah.

I wanted to move to Atlanta years ago, but I had another show that kept me here that, thankfully, I ended, and it was amazing ending it. And so now that I don't have to be here weekly to do a current event pod, yeah, as soon as I ended that, I was like, yeah, I'm out of here. Which, by the way, Mandy and I have lasted so long when that show ended. What show are y'all talking about? Yeah, we already got to see. The thing is, it was another show that I had.

People, we've been together so long, so if someone is a casual listener, they're thinking it's Mandy and I, I woke up to all these texts. It was my birthday, I think, when it happened. I was like, what I was talking about? And then my mother called me because Mandy made a video. That's what made our rollout so good. When everyone thought we broke up, they was like, oh, of course I became, I'm the villain, whatever.

And they made it seem like, oh, she can't keep a partner. She can't keep a podcast up. She can't. And it was like, we played into that, especially with me ending the pot last year. My mom called me like, Mandy is on the internet going off on you. And when did you do this? I'm like, when did you do this? It wasn't me.

I'm like, it's another light, get him on back. But, but yeah. Podcast journalism is almost better than real. Celebrity drama. I love you. It's a mess. You're running naked in the halls. It's on the news.

Like, it is something. You know, it is tea. I'm serious. Well, I'm proud of y'all, man. Thank you. Thank you. The book No Holds Bar, the dual manifesto of sexual exploration

and power will be in stores June 24th. June 24th, that's right. That's right. You got them nails, them two short nails so you can play with you. It's for men and women.

No. It's for me. I'm thoughtful for other people. Okay, all right. Uh-huh. Because I was no sound like, she broke her, just one, I'm right-handed. Purposely, okay. Stay ready, you know, got, get ready.

Yeah. So when you go to the nail salon and you'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, these two open. And they have to ask why. And you tell me they don't. It's either I braid hair or I type a lot. They do not X day. No, they do. They do ask.

They do. They ask. By the way, Jess, I cannot wait until your auntie age. When you said, oh, she's at the age now. No, you're not. Oh, fuck, I'm not. But you have an undertone that auntie, when you just said to them there, oh, that's what you do, all right. Auntie age is 40, but she's not 40.

Thanksgiving, but you're going to be fine. Don't let you have a lesbian niece. You don't be like, so you and that girl be kissing. You got to let me be a sister? Yeah, my little sister. She just, she too new, though. She ain't get out the trial period. My little sister, she gay.

I do believe that it's a try. It's a phase. No, my sister's a lesbian. She's 21, though. So, you know, she still could be, you know, trying. I'm not saying that she was. won't be gay forever, but she still, when she's still

she got a little twinkle in an eye for these little guys out here, so she can't be fully gay yet. So she's what I'm saying. Equally. She's three. Maybe a four. Maybe a four. Maybe a four. Maybe a four. She's a pretty nigger, and she's going to be straight. Right, right, because she don't like to sexually engage with men,

but she still like to look at them and shit, but she like having sex with girls. So that's what? I don't know. Is that a seven? Like, what's... Okay. That's gay. That's gay. Okay. She put you on a new music. She put me on a...

Yeah, it's this new song. Y'all ever heard this song? I forgot his name, but it'd be like, niggas can be gay to. Ain't nobody doing shit like that. I swear, he didn't play it. I was like, what are you listening to? I swear.

It's not a song. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Niggas can be gay too. Like, you never hear that? Did he mean, like, black? Yes. You know what you're talking of black men.

Like, it's, yeah. We know what I'm in. We didn't need that reminder. We didn't need it. Lil Nas told us that all right. All right. Did he re-brand? Who?

Oh, he did it. And I like his new song. Who? Y'all got to have Lil Nas X up here to talk about. Oh, man. No, I'm sure he's still his sexuality, but his music is different now. And it's really good. I really like him.

Lil Nas X, Steve Lacey. I love him all day. I do like Steve Lacey, though. Yeah. Brother. Tyler. The biggest can be gay too. That is crazy.

That is crazy. That is crazy. That is crazy. Bring him up here. I was saying. I'm like, oh, you're listening to. Trump going to ban that record.

Trump is going to sign the decades water. They're not playing it in Florida. They're going to vote for Trump. Trump will be like, not if you're trans. Oh, my goodness. That's what Trump on. Mandy Weezy. We appreciate y'all joining us.

Decision, Decision Podcast. Please go pre-order the book. And make sure you listen to us wherever you listen to your favorite podcast, but also on the IHeart podcast app because we are there under the Black Black Effect Network. It's Decisions, Decisions. And then if you do want the X-rated things where we do talk more about sex,

horrible decisions did not leave. We're just behind a paywall. So join us on Patreon. It's patreon.com backslash horrible decisions. Yeah, that story you got? That was $5. That was $5.00. It's okay.

We'll collect. And it's a damn moment in all. And the whole hive is so active that when the book first was announced, it was number one on Amazon. They went ahead and immediately were pre-ordering their books, so we're really excited. And of course, we will be touring.

We'll announce that later, but you guys will be able to see us do this live. I know we got to go, but just to tell you about Horahe, there was a girl that's a really big fan of yours at the live show we just had. And she was taking a picture. I know. She's taking a picture with me, and I'm like,

oh, I know you will go to all his booktort. Did you see him? She's like, yeah, he's horhive. He always here. I was like, wow, that shit almost made me tear up. I don't like that. But I know y'all said no king shaming. Yes.

What if the king is animals? Oh, no, so we have rules. No kids, no animals, no dead by. bodies. Those are the three. And consensual. And of course, consensual. Like, everything consensual. But we absolutely zero tolerance for PDFs, for beastiality,

and for necrophilia. Gotcha. Because there was a guy in Florida who I gave donkey the day two this morning. He put his penis in the horse's nose. That is, that's also animal abuse. But also, like, that's crazy. That's crazy. And what color what color do you think?

I mean, but Florida. In Florida, I don't even go based on color. Are you all watching Florida, man? I do on HBO. Florida Man is good. What's the fucking is good in the feet and eating them? It's good. It ain't as good as the regular Florida stories we read in the news, though, but it's good.

Nah, that black man and a white dude with no teeth, and he burned the house on, and it was still together. I don't see that one maybe yet. It's good, but it's reenactments of Florida Man stories. But I think what's so crazy about Florida, we're from there. We're from Florida, and we be, it's embarrassing. Why do you think I was, we was doing vampire shit? Hello?

People be like, oh, it's because you guys are mixed. Not we, not we, not we, sometimes you have to speak for yourself. First of all, you got electrician. I always say, you're like, electricity. Anyway, all right. Decision of this is fine, man, and wheezy. It's the breakfast club good morning. Wake that ass up.

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