The Breakfast Club - Best Of Full Interview: Marlon Wayans On Diddy Jokes, Wayans Bros Reunion, Knowing Your Worth + More

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:45 The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody, it's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Jess is still on maternity leave. Lorne LaRosa is filling in and we got a special guest in the building. I didn't even know it was him. I seen him in the hall. I stood inside.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I was like, what? Me too. I was looking like, what rapper is that? What New York rapper is that? Ladies and gentlemen, Marlon Wayans is back was like, what New York rapper is that? Ladies and gentlemen, Marlon Wayans is back. Gang gang, what's happening? How you doing? How you feeling?
Starting point is 00:03:08 I'm good, I wore a hat just in case I start sweating and I bought a washcloth. For some reason, I always sweat when I'm on this show and I'm tired of people going, why are you sweating like that? Are you on crack? And I'm like, no, I quit crack in the 80s. The thing about it now is I just have vitamins, that's all.
Starting point is 00:03:25 That's why we have you up there on the wall like that. And Charlotte made me ask me these hot ass questions. And why you got me looking like Lil Dog? Why can't I just be regular Marlon? I mean, the artist drew it. It's not like we told him. All right, at least I'm up there. Let me shut up, let me not complain
Starting point is 00:03:36 because I was on you for a while. I was on you for a while. You got Will Smith, you ain't got Martin and Shanae Nagy. You got me. Can I just represent? Justin decided to draw it, he drew it based off how people be on the show. You've never been on the show in that character.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I don't know why he did that, to be honest. That nigga was high when he drew this shit. He was high when he drew that. But he got his way. He was watching Dope Be Amazed, like yo, I'ma do this looking like this. The funny thing is, we said Marlon look like a rapper. Don't know rappers love to stage like Marlon.
Starting point is 00:04:03 This nigga, stay home. He stay working. He never wanna be home. He on the watch all comedy tour right now. Marlon look like a rapper don't know rappers love to stage like Marlon No, you know what I do kind of hate my house but the thing is I just love working I've always loved working and finally I got something I love to do and I'm getting better and I just go the more time I stay on the stage and I think because I started late. it's not like I'm tired of it yet, right? So most of the time, I'm like dyslexic with life in my career, like you're supposed to start out doing stand-up. I started out writing and producing and creating my TV show when Wayne's Brothers, when I was like 20, writing and producing my own movies with my brothers
Starting point is 00:04:40 from Don't Be a Menace to Scary Movie and doing my own stuff, Haunted House, and then at 39 I was like, yeah, I think I'm gonna take stand-up serious and I'm gonna go do stand-up. And everybody's like, why the fuck would you do that now? You already made it. And I was like, cause I think there's more to get.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I think I could be better. I've been a star for 20 something years. I wanna be a superstar. And the only way to get there is just doing the work. So I just started doing stand up. And you had your four, I remember one time you came in you said you had four specials planned. It was gonna be God Loves Me, Good Grief,
Starting point is 00:05:11 now you're doing the Wild Child, so it's Wild Child the third installment? No, because I'd been my first two already. The first one was Wokish, second one was You Know What It Is, it's on HBO Max, third one was God Loves Me, the fourth one Good Grief. Between that I had the headliners, which was me and my boys,
Starting point is 00:05:29 Cindy Castillo, Tony Baker, DC Urban. Shout out to all my people, Esau McGraw. And then now I'm working on the Wild Child Tour, but I probably name this one Skittles. And I'm ready to film this now. It's a tight, and the more I keep doing it, now I got like two hours, now I gotta shut the fuck up. I'm doing too much,
Starting point is 00:05:49 because I can't stay on something too long, because I start Rubik's cubing it, and then before you know it, I have two, three hours, and that's really hard to cut down to an hour, so I wanna hurry up and do it, so I know my next three. So for me, I wanna get this done and retire it, so I could you know Clear the canvas and and paint something new. So what is skittles taste the rainbow? You really about to just say fuck it
Starting point is 00:06:19 No, it's it's kind of That's what I mean when I said you gonna tell everybody fuck it, because everybody was giving you flack because you posted all the pictures. I tripled down. I don't believe in, no, no, no. You wanna start this, we gonna keep on going. No, I'm gonna keep on going. We gonna keep on digging. No, you started it.
Starting point is 00:06:37 So, you know, but it's not even about them. It's really about me and my transition as a human. I throw myself under the bus because I wasn't with the shits. I wasn't like, yeah, this is great when they first decided to go down this road. I was against it because I'm like, yo, you're not looking at life.
Starting point is 00:06:57 You're doing this now in your youth. You may regret this when you're like 45 and you have a kid and you ain't got no titties to breastfeed this nigga with. Jesus Christ. So, you know, as a parent, I was like, you know, protesting, but at the same time, I went through this journey from ignorance and defiance to complete acceptance.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And I just think a lot of people need to hear the truth and hear a story. I tell funny truths. Things that hurt me or things that I'm imperfect and I'm not all the way there. I don't always have the right answers but I think it's good to be human and be human on the stage
Starting point is 00:07:36 because when you talk about truth, now you're not just telling jokes, now you're actually healing. There's people in the audience, I got people coming up to me after my show crying, like oh my God, and they did it with good grief and they're doing it now with the Wild Child Tour. There's people in the audience. I got people coming up to me after my show's crying. Like, oh my God. And they did it with good grief, and they're doing it now with the Wild Child Tour.
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's crazy. Does your son get offended? Does your son say, Dad, enough now? Like, you've been on the breakfast slip twice talking about it, you've been talking, like enough is enough. Oh, they tired of my shit. But see, you like your college paid for,
Starting point is 00:07:59 so what I, I gotta do is I gotta talk about things. I'm sorry, baby. You know, Dad, Dad gonna do what he do. You know the beautiful thing about art, if you try to tweet or even probably explain what you just explained in an interview, they'd get mad at you, they'd probably try to cancel you.
Starting point is 00:08:14 But if you do it on stage in a packaged way, it'll make more sense. Because it's your forum and you get to really unpack your truth. It's, I look at the stages, it's a therapy session, except instead of paying a therapist $200 to express myself, I got these jackasses paying $55 come see me perform.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I'm like, y'all understand, I'm in therapy right now and the audience has been my therapist and when I hear their laughter, I find the answers. And I'm just really grateful that God gave me this career and this thing called stand-up and this thing called art because I can always take my broken heart and make art and I love it. I always wanted to know with your son,
Starting point is 00:08:57 did you have to sit down and say, okay, well, explain it to me, break it down because we come from a different place where jokes is jokes. Did you have to sit down and be like, explain what you want me to say, what you want me to call you, how you feel different place where jokes is jokes. Did you have to sit down and be like, explain what you want me to say, what you want me to call you, how you feel? I understand the other, did you have to go through that?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yes, and it was so damn confusing, because they started with pronouns, and I'm like, look, I went to public school in New York City, I don't know shit about no pronouns. I know nouns and verbs, that's all they taught us. You know what I mean? So they broke it down and all this, and it's just too much.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And then I got to change from calling them she to now he and they and I'm like, they, bitch there's two of you? What's, I don't understand. Oh my God. They are the most confusing ones. I'm just so confused but they took me through the tutorial and they know that sometimes I still,
Starting point is 00:09:40 because for 23 years you were her and now they, and they give me grace, because they know, okay. But you know, he knows you still love him. They know I love him. They, they, they know I love him. I'll fight, I'll die for him, no matter what, don't matter, that's my child, you know what I mean? And I think all parents should defend
Starting point is 00:10:03 and pull up for their children, You know, that's my child. I want them to be happy, and if that makes them happy, I'm happy for them. We saw you come to Boosie's defense, the back and forth was happening online with his daughter. Have you guys spoken? Do other parents call you because you're very open about your journey?
Starting point is 00:10:19 No, I didn't fricassee. People fried me up for coming to his defense. They did, for sure. But I wasn't coming to his defense. I'm telling people, hey man, y'all mind your fucking business and let families work out they shit. That's private between him and his daughter and they don't need your fuel.
Starting point is 00:10:36 They don't need my fuel, but I'm telling you, when you're ironing out your personal problems, that's between him and his daughter. And everybody got something to fuck to say. That's what I don't like about social media that man is dealing with his child and they need to express themselves and hold space we live in a society where we're unforgiving and all we do is add fuel to fires and watch it burn and applaud and I'm just like yo let, let that man hold space. It takes him time.
Starting point is 00:11:06 When it first happened to me, it took me time. You can't expect somebody to instantly be like, I accept everything. It takes time and God has his way of talking to each and every one of us. We all gonna have our sit down with God. I had mine, you know, and he will have his. And I hold space that that man changes his point of view
Starting point is 00:11:27 And then him and his child come together and love each other like any black father and black daughter or wife or daughter father period That's what I want and people are you fucking? Oh, you shouldn't be saying shut the fuck up I'm not gonna defend myself with 150 characters or whatever it is now on X. Give a fuck. I said what I said. I stand by it. Now let it go. I'll hold space for that man and his daughter to come together as a family and figure that shit out.
Starting point is 00:11:53 The way me and my child came together as a family and we figured out shit out. People need space to have those honest conversations. I agree with that, but you and your child didn't work it out through social media. No, we didn't. Like, Boozy was in interviews talking, and then his- Yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:08 because my child been unfollowed me. And his child replied to an interview he did. That's the problem I be having, like, don't tell your personal business in these interviews if you don't want the world to have an opinion about it. Yes, but, you know, and that's to their fault. That was something, but they figured it out and as they should, but I just hold space
Starting point is 00:12:29 and hold space for prayer and hold space within myself that people can grow up, that people can change. Every person should have the opportunity to change. Even brothers that are in prison, there's a reason why there's prison. It's time for you to sit and time out and have conversations with God and reform. But when they come out, we should applaud them
Starting point is 00:12:50 for the time they did. They did the time. Now, let's hold space that they're better people. Now let me ask you a question. Oh shit, I don't got myself in trouble. You said prison, I'm just curious. How many times have people asked you, have you ever been to a Diddy party?
Starting point is 00:13:03 They pulled up that tweet. What the fuck they gotta do at prison? How you get that from a kid to a Diddy party? They pulled up that tweet. What the fuck, they gotta go to prison. How you get that from a Christian? Because Diddy's in prison, it just made me think about it. I seen the baby oil behind you, it just made me think about it. That's crazy, you do have a baby oil. All right, so here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I've been to 10, 15, I know Puff since he was Puff. I knew, we went to college together, so I went to Howard. I always, always wanted to go to Diddy parties. They had the hottest parties in D.C. I was too young to college together, so I went to Howard. I always wanted to go to ditty parties at the hottest parties in D.C. I was too young to get into those, but when I got to L.A. and throughout the years, the 90s, come on man, my biggie, and I've been around a long time, and I will say this,
Starting point is 00:13:36 I've never, I've been to maybe 10, 15, some of this house, I've never seen shit. I have never, you put live test on me, when they're like, oh well, there's videos, great, great show me you gonna see me sipping Siroc and maybe pushing the deli on to the side that shit too strong but you know I've never seen any of the stuff that they say happened. I never been to a freak off. That's just not, and that's just not my vibes. That's not Wayne's vibes. Beyond that, I got to honor, I go to a party or whatever, but I always got my mother, my father, and God. And you can be
Starting point is 00:14:19 around things and then go, yeah this ain't for me. That's just never been my vibe. I don't get off, I don't even like watching porn with BBC. No, I want my dick to be the only BBC in the room. We can watch some ladies perform, sure. But every now and then you come across that one brother and his shit is so big and you go, God damn it, dick shouldn't be that big. Don't that shit hurt? You be trying to make him feel bad.
Starting point is 00:14:43 That's ridiculous, all that dick. Don't that shit hurt? You be trying to make him feel bad. That's not even real. That's ridiculous, all that dick. That's not even real. I like putting on Asian porn, because I know my dick is bigger than these. I'm gonna get in trouble. That was Asian shaming. That was dick shaming. I wanna apologize.
Starting point is 00:14:55 When you hear these stories though, and you know, they be tragic stories. You hope that none of this, you hope it's not true, but you gotta listen to the alleged victims. Yes, he got me sweating, damn. He don't know, he's throwing stuff at Diddy Yes, he got me sweating, damn. He on new, he starting to talk like I did it. You too late, man.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It's wintertime outside, it's cold, man. You act like it's 30 degrees out. I like my fall clothes. I get to floss and show off fly shit. You know what I mean? I wait all year for fall. Did you have jokes immediately, like when you read some of this stuff?
Starting point is 00:15:21 A billion of them. I, oh my God, I had puff up. I said, man, I them. Oh my God. I heard Puff Up. I said, man, I got some jokes for you. I'm not sure you want to hear them right now. Did he respond? Oh, listen, I hear him. I've known these guys my whole life. I've been growing up in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:15:36 When it happened to Russell Simmons, I'm the wrong dude. I hit a nigga on his worst day. I hit Russell Simmons up, and I said, hey, nigga. It was like after all these allegations came out, I said, hey nigga, it was like after all these allegations came out, I said, hey, nigga, you having a terrible week. To this day, Russell hit me from Bali in some weird fricking stretch position, that's still one of the funniest things I ever heard.
Starting point is 00:15:59 So yeah, I hit them up on their worst day, you know? And I hold prayer, you know, for, cause I know the kids and I'm just like, and I'm not, I'm not excusing any of those actions. I saw the Cassie tape, that hurt my feeling, and it hurt my feelings to see a black man do that to any woman, or any man do that to a woman. I wasn't raised like that.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But as much as I see that video, and I hurt for her, you know, there's a part of me, and that's what I mean, hold space, there's a part of me, and that's what I mean, whole space, there's a part of me that hurts for that little boy in there that was taught that kind of toxic behavior. And I pray that he heals, I pray that he, like he's sitting with God right now. I don't need to throw that man under a bus.
Starting point is 00:16:39 God is talking to Puff right now, and that's between God and him. And whatever happens, happens, and that's between God and him. And whatever happens, happens, and that's between him and God, but I'm gonna pray for those kids, I'm gonna pray for the family, I'm not gonna act like stuff didn't happen, and I ain't gonna act like,
Starting point is 00:16:52 nigga, I ain't got no jokes. I got some wonderful jokes that I got in my show. You got a baby oil you want today? Oh, everybody got a baby oil joke. He got thousand bottles of baby oil. He dropped off one right there. On my way to Vegas, I mean Atlantic City, it's gonna be a car ride,
Starting point is 00:17:09 we got thousand bottles of baby oil on the wall. But everybody got jokes and he know what it is and the kids know what it is, but I don't wanna kick a man when he down. And I think, like I said, man, I know that family and I pray for more, you know? You know, also too, man, the thing I love about comedians, comedians say things and have conversations
Starting point is 00:17:30 that everybody do be thinking. I saw you on Shaq's podcast. Okay? What I do now? And on Shaq's podcast, you talked about- She like, he don't be behaving. You talked about a joke that you didn't wanna say. Which one? Oh no, you ain't gonna get me to say that shit. I just said that you didn't want to say. Which one?
Starting point is 00:17:45 Oh no, you ain't gonna get me to say that shit. I just said that Magic Johnson had the good age. What age did you get if you lived 50 years? I want those age. You become a billionaire with age. Give me those age. What kind of age is this financial age? All of us have had that conversation amongst each other.
Starting point is 00:18:00 What kind of age he had? You see the judgment over here, look, he said that. I just don't, don't have that. It's just an observation. Everybody talks about it. What kind of A.T. is he? You see the judgment over here? He said that? I didn't. I just don't. Everybody has an observation. Everybody talks about it. And here's the thing, you gonna get mad about a joke or you ain't.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And if you get mad, you can fucking leave. I'm not gonna retract statements, I'm not gonna retract jokes. They are jokes. If I didn't go in these dark caves to find this little light and this little elixir called the laugh, then what the fuck am I doing this for? I'm not gonna make everybody laugh at one time. I hope to tell the right
Starting point is 00:18:31 joke. That's why you go on tour. That's why you work it out. That's why you throw different things out there and you let them blow up in your face. You're like a scientist. Let me put two parts of oxygen, one part hydrogen, two parts hydrogen. Bow, that blows up in your face. Well, let me try it this way. You watch people walk out, but just because they walk out don't mean it's gonna be a bad joke. I used to have people walk out on that joke and then that became my biggest joke.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It was like, they was like, oh, you can't say that. Oh, I offended you. Oh, that means you're listening. So let me go a little deeper. Let me dig a little deeper, because I know there's oil here. And when I did, that gave me an applause break. That's how much people laughed about that,
Starting point is 00:19:10 because it was literally 10 minute run of just going deeper and deeper. It started with Shaq, and it kept going, kept going, kept going, kept going. They laughed so hard at the Apollo, man. I literally could go sip me some water, and take time to set up my next topic the magic reach out to you I Hope not, but I think when he see me gonna kiss me in the mouth
Starting point is 00:19:52 I love all these dudes, but I'm a comedian. If you know my heart, like, have you not seen In Living Color? Have you not seen Don't Be A Menace? Have you not seen Scary Movie? I have made a living talking shit about people. That's what the fuck I do. I make fun of things and I'm not gonna be unforgiving when it comes to it. Everybody gets it.
Starting point is 00:20:10 You seen Good Grief? I talked about my mama and my daddy. So you think I'm gonna care about what magic is feeling or Shaq is feeling? I'm talking about my dead mother and my dead father's dick. I'm telling you, I'm gonna go get these jokes because that's what I gotta do. I gotta telling you, I'm gonna go get these jokes because that's what I gotta do. I gotta heal.
Starting point is 00:20:27 We have to have comedians in the world. Like God created y'all for a special reason. I truly believe that. Like the same way there's doctors and you know, lawyers, like you need comedians in the world. And you need, you know, you need journalists. You need people that, you know, sit there and ask the hard questions. I seen you had that lady sweating, the Trump lady. She was Oh, Laura Trump. Yeah, she was sweating up a storm, started looking just like her father ask the hard questions. I seen you had that lady sweating, the Trump lady. She was- Oh, Laura Trump, Laura Trump. Yeah, she was sweating up a storm,
Starting point is 00:20:47 started looking just like her father-in-law. I said, this crazy, you made the white lady nervous. So let me ask a question. So you can't go over there and get no love from her. She was like, anyway- Oh, she was about to roast Lauren. You ever tell her she said, period bitch. She was on me.
Starting point is 00:21:04 You know, I was wondering, you've been coming up here for 15, 16 years, and we've talked about your brother, and Charlamagne has changed, he's evolved, he went to therapy. But see, once again, hold space for change. Charlamagne, 20 years ago, will tell you he was an asshole. He will tell you, yo, I was in a different place. I could do nothing but shake that man's hand and go,
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Starting point is 00:26:49 He stay angry Sean's still mad all right, he mad at me I don't know what the fuck I did I think I took a shades. Sorry Sean. I'll bring him back No, but you know, it's not also keeps a low profile Sean don't be doing a lot of precious stuff, but Sean Sean will come up here. Like Sean's grown, right? We all grow and as brothers in our industries, there's no time for beef, no time for that kind of negative energy. I only go through negative energy to find something positive.
Starting point is 00:27:17 It always brings something positive out. You're positive, you're a positive person. You joke a lot, but you positive. I think if I'm not mistaken, I saw is Sean writing on Damon's new show? Sean's writing on Damon's new show. We about to have an announcement we gonna announce next week.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I can't talk about it here, but a big announcement coming. So I'm just gonna leave it at that. Y'all rebooting in the club? Like I said, it's a big announcement coming. You dig it, look it, she want the juice. You can't say that and be like, I'm not gonna say it. And what we want from the Wayans right now?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Wayans Brothers tour? Wayans Brothers tour? Wayans Brothers tour would be kinda crazy. That would be me. That would be me. Damien Wayans Jr. You would just drink that water kinda hard. I'll be close. So this is what I do when I call to confirm stories.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Stop! Okay, you can confirm or deny, but am I in the right area if we say that there may be an assembly of the Wayans Brothers that includes traveling and jokes? I will just say that there may be a assembly of the Waynes Brothers and I'ma leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:28:08 On TV or on stage? Come on man, y'all green. What is this? This is like hot peas and butter. I feel like there's a belt around the corner. Fuck that, no. I'm running, no, leave me alone. So Damon's coming out with Papa's house.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Papa's house, that's what him and Lil Damon, and that's gonna air in October. CBS, make sure y'all check it out. I've been down to the set, it's a really funny show. And you know, Damon don't miss, and him and his son Lil Damon's brilliant. And right now there's like 62 Wayans is working over there. So you know, the whole set is all Wayans.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Did y'all seem like, text out like, hey man, new show, who wanna help? Like, I'm just like, like a text out like, hey man, new show, who wanna help? Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like a family trip. Just a group chat. It organically happens. Like my sister Kim is one of his show runners on the show. So she's writing on the show.
Starting point is 00:28:53 We like to have family. Cause my family be like, mm-mm. See, that's why that magic joke happened. Cause I had nobody around. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
Starting point is 00:29:04 but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, no. Oh, Damon would be like, keep that one. I got a little something more you can add to it. You realize that's one of the funniest Breakfast Club interviews? I don't even like to talk about it. When Damon Wayans was up here. I think that's the one that made him stop doing stand up. That's why Damon got to do stand up.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Damon don't do stand up because he feel like the world became so judgmental. And I think he's right, but he's not. What I found is the world is judgmental on social media. When I go to comedy shows, people wanna laugh, bro. The audience wants to laugh. Social media got the studios fucked up. They got the executives fucked up.
Starting point is 00:29:42 They're not making comedies because they're scared to make comedies. They don't think people wanna laugh and I'm like, you are so wrong. And that's why we coming back, we're in the four or five, we about dunk hard on them, people need to laugh and I know my purpose, you know, I look at how depressed the world feels
Starting point is 00:29:59 and we need to laugh again. See I'm coming back on. I'm gonna show you this headline, I don't wanna say what it is, but just what he said when he was on. That's why you don't see no more interviews. See that? Grand closing, grand opening, grand closing.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I gotta see what he said. You remember? Me too, I wanna see. I gotta see what he said. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. And the way he said it with that look and he's just. I remember. But here's the thing, as a comedian, that man should be able to say what the fuck he is. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Who he wants to say. Who are you to tell a comedian his job is to find light. I don't care where it comes from, how it comes. You take the darkest subject, the darkest topic, and you go, here's what's funny. That is what my job is, you know what I mean? You can't criticize a fireman for not putting out part of a fire.
Starting point is 00:30:55 He goes into burning buildings to find bodies. I go into burning buildings to find jokes, and that's what I do for a living, and I'm never gonna not tell jokes, period. And if you get canceled, good. You know what canceled means? That means that the real niggas are staying and them bitch ass niggas went home.
Starting point is 00:31:13 So cancel me. Everybody don't got the backing that y'all, some communities are scared because they can't just walk away from stuff or they're scared that brands walk away from them now they got no money and they don't have no ability. Like you guys have a, it's different for the way they got the stage though. No, because we have a brand, right?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Our brand has stood the test of times. We started in the eighties. Right. This is generational and now by 40, 40 years, that's beautiful. Between me, Damon, Sean, Kenan, Kim, that's 230 years of comedy between each one of us. Like we are masters at joke telling. People trust our brand with finding the light.
Starting point is 00:31:56 When we did in Living Color, you know, Damon doing, and David doing Men on Film, that's the first time gay people were introduced into your living room and people felt like, oh, this is safe. Even gay people loved Men on Film because the way we do things is we try to do it with kids gloves.
Starting point is 00:32:17 We want the people that we make in front of to be like, oh, that was funny. That's why you can't cancel us for white chicks. You know who love white chicks the most? White chicks. So the people white chicks the most white chicks So the people that we send up usually laugh the loudest and I'm sure Magic Johnson's laughing right now You know you bought that up and that's funny, right? Like I was saying earlier I was saying earlier that we live in a generation. That's all about vibes What happened to talent because you can go back to any of those in the living color cast everybody on there was talented
Starting point is 00:32:44 That's why y'all still here today. Not even just the Wayans brothers the David Allen Gris the Tommy Davison Jamie Foxx It's like come on the cold field and people don't argue it either. There's no argument of Jim Carrey Jim Carrey Damon I mean because back then it was you know, that's what things social media made everybody feel like, oh, I can instantly be famous. You can be famous, but you're doing 30 second, three minute sketches, which is cute. But back in the day, you had to earn it. You had to work 20, 30 years in comedy clubs before you had a point of view that Hollywood
Starting point is 00:33:20 would then wanna take a chance on betting on you. Nowadays, you got this many followers, you got this many views, people, oh my God, that's the next guy to bet on. No, you have to, it takes time, consistency. I've been doing this now for, now, me, 35 years professionally, and now I'm doing standup now, 14, 12, 14 years now, somewhere now,
Starting point is 00:33:43 and now, I'm just now hitting my stride. I think my best years are ahead of me. I'm in that zone right now because it took me 40 years to really understand my art and my craft and that's just not in comedy. Now my dramatic is on point, you know what I mean? Like I feel like our best years and even our Wayans years, people need to laugh so that way is brand we coming back
Starting point is 00:34:07 with the comedy tour absolutely Didn't say with the comedy but I'm on a comedy tour the wild child. I'm in Evansville, Indiana Where am I at? November 1st you in Coachella, California. Yes, November 8th you in Tulsa. Yes, November 16th You're in Durham, North Carolina November 17th, Richmond, Virginia and November 21st you in Grand Rapids, Michigan Yes, and my greedy ass is also gonna be Where am I gonna be? I'm gonna be in Evansville Indiana
Starting point is 00:34:41 And that is hold on who sent me that somebody sent, I'll get back to it. Jess sent it to me, okay. I'm in Saturday, October 26th, I'm in Aiken Theater in Evansville, Indiana. Sunday the 27th, I'm in Louisville Palace, at the Louisville Palace in Louisville, Kentucky. Friday, November 8th, I'm in Tulsa at the Tulsa Theater and then November 21st, I'm at Devo's Performata and Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Thank you very much. That's a lot. But I work every weekend because this way when I'm doing jokes or this way when I'm you know I have a sketch show or I have a movie that I'm doing that I know where the jokes are they're in my head before I even say it I go don't say that where the jokes are, they're in my head. Before I even say it, I go, don't say that, go for that. Your instincts is built by the stage, because you write on a stage. I'm not at home writing out jokes, no. I write my jokes right in front of the audience
Starting point is 00:35:35 and it's live or die every second. And that's how you get good. What's your motivation when you hit that stage? You're clearly a very motivated person. I think that one of the best examples of that we saw earlier this year, when you and Vlad went through what y'all went through. Fuck that nigga.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I'm sorry. Fuck him and his beard. You and Vlad went through what y'all went through. I didn't go through it. And no disrespect to him, I'm over it. He disrespected me. I had no, you should see the text. How many times I was like, bro, we ain't gotta do this. You're saying fuck you, we ain how many times I was like bro. We ain't gonna do this
Starting point is 00:36:10 You're saying fuck you to we met that price bro. We don't have to do this. Well, I'll give you five thousand I said bro, we ain't gonna do this. I bro just leave it alone. We good bro. I You wait, I'm gonna talk to Aries spears about this. What the fuck are you telling my business on your platform? That's when it got tricky. How you gonna tell my business to another black man about my price? How dare you? Now you trying to make us crabs in a barrel. Now you trying to make me and Aries go to war. And I'm like, see that made me go that's why I'm not fucking with your platform. Wait, he told you he was going to do that before the interview happened? He told me when I told him I didn't want do the interview, he was like, oh, the price. And I was just like, bro, the price is the price,
Starting point is 00:36:48 let it go. You're saying fuck you to me. I didn't say fuck you to me. To this day, I still haven't said fuck you to him. The only way I said fuck you to him was when he kept going, I was like, all right, so here's what's gonna happen. You're trying to diminish my value, you're trying to diminish my worth,
Starting point is 00:37:02 you're trying to diminish my prolific career that I know I have worked hard for. Now I'm going to show you. Revenge, success is the man's best revenge. Now I'm going to show you, me and you ain't in the same fucking league, bro. You don't have a million dollars, a billion dollars of box office behind you. You don't have a 35 year creating your own material, your own shows, your own series. I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna go do some legendary shit and
Starting point is 00:37:31 I'm gonna go do it to everybody else except fucking you. And I went and I did Shaysha and he's like you can't get more than 300,000 views I got more views on the breakfast club. Boom. First day, two million views. And I'm just like enough said, drop Mike. And besides that, fuck your beard. I don't like his beard. It looks like Trump's wig on his face. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:37:53 What's wrong with his beard? It's ugly, it's red. It looks like Gossamer from the Looney Tunes. You know the one that had the sneakers, that must. Well I was just trying to ask you a question about motivation, Marlon. I mean, I got into it. But did y'all squash it out?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Because I see y'all both stopped. You had 8.5 million answers, by the way. Did y'all squash it out? I had looked earlier at the views, it's 8.5. 8.5, but he said I'm more 300. I was like, all right, cool. We didn't squash it. I squashed it.
Starting point is 00:38:18 He's apologized a lot to the set. I heard him up. He's still talking about it. He just asked somebody else, Dion Cole. I'm just like, kiddo. I think every time he brings it up, he apologizes. I'm just like, I accept his apology. I am not mad.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I wasn't mad from day one until I roasted him on the gram. I was like, wait, hold up, you said what? And I went in on him. And then I went the other way and I showed him that way. And now I'm cool with it. I ain't got no beef with that man. You know what I'm saying? But just, yo, put some respect on my name, bro. Like, don't come at me like that.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'm a peaceful dude and if you look at the text that me and him, the correspondence, you'd be like, yo, Marlon was a classy dude all the way through. He messed up when he started talking about my price to other people. And y'all know this. Your value is what you say your value is.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Your worth is what you say your worth is. And yes, I will state the obvious. As a black man, no you won't do that to me. And I have to take that position. Because if I didn't take that position, we took that position in the 80s to kick open fucking doors to let people know, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:39:25 this is what we do, this is how you do us and you have to state the obvious, no, you won't come at me like that. So, and if he apologized, I accepted it. I'm not mad at him. I'm back to motivation. But I'm not saying you're motivation because it's not just that moment,
Starting point is 00:39:39 I think about what happened with Scary Movie and how you went to go create your own thing. I feel like you need things to help push you to go do something else. Because everything negative that happens to me, I go, what's positive? How do I flip this into positive? Nothing bad in life is bad.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Everything is God. One door closes, look around. There's a thousand other opportunities that come your way. Even Skittles, the Skittles stuff come in. Everything is, and everything is God. I will say that after losing my parents. Good grief, yeah. I still have a parent, God, who governs me
Starting point is 00:40:13 and he got me through, if I could tell you what I went through for three years beyond COVID, when I lost 60 people that I loved, it was like God was playing a trick on me. I was just like, are you kidding me? Or somebody else? My mom, whoa, my father? And when I went through that and I was delivered,
Starting point is 00:40:34 I was like, oh, God is real. And then my daughter at the same time, I was like, God is real and God is so good and I'm so thankful to know him and I will tell people, you should find God before God comes to find you. If he comes to find you, it's too late. Go seek him, he will get you through any war,
Starting point is 00:40:54 any battle and everything is positive because everything is God. Amen. There you have it. Is that what got the Wayans Brothers back together to do this comedy tour? Everything was God, you should know what I went through with these niggas. The point is.
Starting point is 00:41:04 So the name of the tour is Everything Was God. You should know what I went through with these niggas. The point is. So the name of the tour is Everything Was God? The Wayans Brother Comedy Tours? That was tricky. That was all, you almost got me. You almost got me on that one. But I'll announce next week, and I'll come back. This don't end until next week.
Starting point is 00:41:16 This ends on like Monday. Because you know we do exclusive news here too. I know. OK, well, I'll come back and drop it. He don't trust us. He like, I don't trust y'all. I'll play with y'all. Y'all gonna drop that shit right away. The day that you guys are ready to break, are you publicists? I know okay. Well, I'll come back and drop it. You don't trust it
Starting point is 00:41:30 Shit right away the day that you guys are ready to break. Are you publicist? Can we help you guys break that news? Okay, great She said right here. She's right here I'm gonna get here before before we drop drop. I'm gonna i'm gonna call i got your number I'm gonna call you and i'm gonna tell you and I tell you. And I got your number. You got my number. We've had every Wayans up here, not at one time. You got too many questions, I can't get your number. It's my job.
Starting point is 00:41:52 We even had Keenan up here. That's a classic breakfast club interview people don't talk about. Keenan was here? Yeah, everybody came to bed. That is the smartest dude. I always say, I'm the luckiest kid in the world, man. To grow up in a house with everybody I dreamt to be like was in my house
Starting point is 00:42:07 I grew up in a household with legends man and and so you know I what I do I do it for the village I am only me because because of the village that raised me. I'm so grateful for my journey. I've had a beautiful time I mean Damon Kenan Kim I mean, Damon, Kenan, Kim, Sean, like everybody I wanted to be like was in my house. Some of them niggas feet was on me in my bed. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a story that like,
Starting point is 00:42:35 I don't think like the Jackson's understand. Like that's, it's a blessing, man. When are we getting that story? Huh? When are we getting that story? Which one? Oh, the family. Oh, the Way an ass story? Huh? When we get an ass story. Which one? Of the my. The family. Oh the Wayans family story, we're talking about it.
Starting point is 00:42:49 We actually created a sitcom a while ago. That's what I mean about Hollywood. You know, now for me I really wanna go get a lot of financing. Cause I just wanna do Wayans stuff and I don't need nobody telling me, hey we're ready for you to do it. No, no, no, I know when something's ready.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I cook it myself. That's why I pay for my own specials. No, no, no, I know when something's ready. I cook it myself. That's why I pay for my own specials. Not waiting on y'all to tell me I'm ready or what your runway is. I'm ready. I'm gonna put this special out either way it goes. Now, you wanna be a part of it or you don't. And I don't need people giving me approval.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I know when something's ready. We had this thing, Growing Up Wings. The funniest sitcom, and it was about our family growing up in the projects and then everybody's like We're not doing sitcoms no more and then they did That's why I want to go finance because I'm like I'm gonna do 100 episodes and I'm gonna find the platform for it I don't want to ask people questions no more about hey, can I do this? No, no, no, but you want to do this cool If not, I'm not waiting on you. But a movie.
Starting point is 00:43:45 A movie would be great just to see how the life is. Oh, you know how long that movie would be? That'd be longer than Gandhi. Just to hear all the stories. You know how many chapters, how many wins is this? But I mean, to hear the stories from all the brothers and everybody, just how y'all did it, how y'all came from growing up in a small house
Starting point is 00:44:00 in Brooklyn and taking it to where you guys at and how you changed it. Manhattan, Manhattan. All my Manhattan people get mad. Chousy, the way you in Brooklyn. Chousy, to where you guys at and how you changing. Manhattan, Manhattan, all my Manhattan people get mad. Chelsea, the way in Brooklyn. Chelsea, to how you changed the Super Bowl, just all that in a film would just be amazing. I think we will and we're sniffing around it.
Starting point is 00:44:16 We're all talking about doing a lot of stuff, everything from a book, because it's all right now, it's all about the brand and the brand, right? So I think there's a book, I think there's a doc, I think there's a biopic, I think we're gonna put all that together in the next, but it's hard to wrangle 10 people.
Starting point is 00:44:32 That's why Earth, Wind, and Fire has never had an autobiography. Too many niggas in the band. You gotta get all these different, all these different rights, and you need this person's rights, and the trumpet player's rights, and the saxophone play it's Easy when you're a solo act, you know, it's like you one person
Starting point is 00:44:49 So I think we're all gonna collectivize and get this done because the people need it and I want it for the next generations coming up because it's a blueprint for them and I think I'm a star if my brothers wanted to wanna I'm already working on a book for myself But I think a collective family story is my brothers wanted to do one, I'm already working on a book for myself, but I think a collective family story is something we gotta do. We appreciate you for joining us. Always. Thank you. You asked me all these hot questions,
Starting point is 00:45:12 now I'm gonna get a collect call from Diddy from jail. Magic gonna kiss me in the lips. I think Diddy wanna FaceTime. It's mama. Don't worry. This guy's stupid. It's mama wins. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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