The Breakfast Club - Best Of Full Interview: Ms. Pat Talks Healing Through Her Show, Getting Fired From Radio, Marriage + More

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:46 In the morning. The Breakfast Club. We're going to hell, y'all. We're gonna feel greased up like a first-year of school black kid. And she's back. Ms. Pat is here, ladies and gentlemen. She didn't even know introduction.
Starting point is 00:02:57 She just came here finally. Ms. Pat is here. Good morning. It's season four of the Ms. Pat Show on BET+. Welcome back, Ms. Pat. Hey, hey, hey. Thank you, girl. Thank you, thank you. Ms. Pat keeping the lights on at BET. You hear me? Good morning a season for the miss Pat show on BET plus Keeping the lights on at BET you hear me Oh, yeah, I forget tile over there tile in miss Pat
Starting point is 00:03:19 Sweeping the floor, but I'm glad to be season four. I'm glad Are you feeling I'm feeling great. I'm feeling great. I'm just doing TV and I'm doing a tour. I'm starting my second theater tour called Hot and Flashy. Go on sale tomorrow. Why is it Flashy? Why is it Hot and Flashy? Mind your business because I'm grown. I'm just asking a question, Ms. Pat. Why is it Hot and Flashy?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Because I'm Hot and Flashy. Why is your green's up like a condom about to go with your head? Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up here looking like a walking dead. Walking up grease up like a condom about to go over your head? Walking up here looking like a walking, walking here you looking like a dildo. Why you looking like that? Oh my God, yeah. You see that? Why you had grease up like that? A used dildo too. A used one. I don't do dildos, but keep talking. I don't need them fake-bite eyelashes in a wig. What makes this show so successful, Miss Pat?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Cause it's truthful, people can relate to it. You know, it's the first time, it's the first time somebody like me ever been on TV to say what real people were thinking. You know, we've seen all the moms before who played mama, who did great jobs, but you always say, that ain't my mom. That ain't how my aunt talk to me.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And I think when they put my big crazy black behind on TV, I was able to, I gave the people a voice that never had a voice on TV before. So that's all, and people come up and tell me all the time, the things that we dig into, you know, we dig into child molestation, abortion, convicted felon, everything that real people go through in life, or know somebody who went through in life, so I think that's why people love the show.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But it's a comedy. Don't you laugh, well you probably don't watch it. Oh I don't, yeah. But you mean I do watch the Pat Show, reach your love. You're a liar. Why the lie? Because I ain't gonna sit here and tell you
Starting point is 00:05:00 I read your book, so don't lie to me. I read your book too though. Yeah, I ain't read your book. I can't read that, man. I read my own book one time because they paid me. Those people dog my behind. I was getting paid hourly. I was not in hours. I was going to take all the time I needed to read it. All the hey them Duhs and A's and A's. It's your words, Ms. Pat. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I was getting paid by the hour and I was taking my time. At that time, that was my first book. I was like, I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. I'm going to read it. It's your words, Ms. Pat. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I was getting paid by the hour and I was taking my time. At that time, that was the most I ever got paid by the hour. So you thought I was going to read that thing? I didn't even rehearse. Usually I rehearse to make sure I pronounce the words right. I said, would you pay me an hour? Ooh, they're going to be a long week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So the fact that you visit all of those traumas on your show, has it ever been anything like that's been very emotional for you to film? Everything is very emotional dealing with Jordan E. Cooper. The first season we was going to do an episode about my mama's boyfriend touching us and my mama just turning away like, because you know predators come in and they groom the family. You know, they come in, they see what type of knees you got, and what we needed, we needed a father figure, we needed somebody to help us grocery, rent, and that predator came in. And he did what he wanted to do with my sister and me.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And when we told our mom, she just looked the other way. So Jordan, we wrote a whole episode in the first season. And this is my first time ever being on TV. I'm like, I don't think I'm ready to visit that. So we visited in the second season, which broke me all the way down. Because I was already dealing with a lot of trauma from my kid's father who, I was 12, he was 22,
Starting point is 00:06:37 married, shot me, so we was dealing, we was telling all those stories. Then you want me to tell a Chimelette Station story on top of it? I was like, we gotta back some of this up before I have to go to council. So we took that out. We did it in the second season, which was great.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Jordan said there's a healing that happened this season. What do you mean by that? He said there's a healing that, his exact quote, there's a healing that's going on in front of the lens. It was, I dealt with my mom because my mom used to say really bad things to me. I'm lighter skinned, my sister's darker skinned, but to me, my sister always been way more cuter than I was.
Starting point is 00:07:09 My sister had long curly hair. She was just beautiful, she don't crack now. But she- Damn, Jesus Christ. Shit. That crack took her ass out. Thank you. The fact that she was beautiful, had long nice hair, she had a nice head, but she don't crack now. I just want you to know she ain't doing too good now. I'm 52 and I still can hear my mom and my mind saying bad things about me.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I had acne really bad and she would always talk about how ugly my skin was and I'm 52 and I still can hear my mom and my mind saying bad things to me. So I think that's one of the reasons why I worked so hard in life is because the things that my mama said to me. So we did a whole episode where my mom come back as a ghost and what she put on me, she want me to put on my kids because her mom put on her. So in that episode you see me break a generation of curse. And at the end, I broke down.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And I remember fighting and I said, Joy, don't push me down, don't push me down. And at the end, I just broke down crying. And I just remember saying, I hate this bitch. Damn, all of that came back up? All of it, because you know I never went to counseling and I've been through some stuff so to deal with what I've been through you know and I told somebody this the other day I said my sister dealt with
Starting point is 00:08:32 what we went through doing drugs and alcohol. I dealt with it by just shedding a door on it. Well if you shed that door on it, one day that door gonna open back up. Yeah. And all what you had behind that door is gonna eventually flow out. So when I got the Miss Pat's show and started telling Joy in my life, he just keep bringing all of this stuff out. But it is a healing because it's stuff I never talked about or I never really dealt with.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So I think I heal along with the audience. What do you think of the other ways that you like, you coped, like I know you said your sister did drugs. Did you do anything else? Like, yeah, I ate, look at me, Chick-fil-A. He was waiting on me to say I was fat. Every time I come here, I was fat. Your sister did drugs. Did you do anything else? Yeah? Hey look at me chick-fil-a No, it's not that is not true. I tried it gave me go stop Did you did you hear Charlamagne they would when it was attacking them about the big bad comment? Yeah I was them,
Starting point is 00:09:48 I say, hey, you go on the clock in at somebody's job. My hum is sucking my titty, so that means I don't have to go to work today. Damn. Get out my damn phone. My system forever erasing what I'm saying. Don't talk to me, because I'm not Beyonce. I'm gonna talk bad, because I be reading e-commends. Don't be playing with me cuz I'm not Beyonce. I'm gonna talk bad because I be reading he comments
Starting point is 00:10:05 Don't be don't be playing with me. So leave me alone. They call me fast That's all you can say but you going to clock in I'm doing what I love So who miserable you or me and I'm gonna you said cheese. You don't have Charlemagne. I cannot stand Charlemagne. Oh my God. When did you finally feel comfortable where you could talk about all these stories? Because some of these stories you'd be like, damn, you don't know if you want to laugh with you or you just want to cry. Cry and just be sad the whole episode.
Starting point is 00:10:38 You know, I do it like my comedy. I'm just an open book. I'm not ashamed of nothing. I've been through, you know, I was on stage last week. I mean, the other night I was like, oh, y'all had crabs gonna rip, fleas, everybody like, what? And so I was talking about the whole thing about young girls shaving their vagina. Well, I'm 52, nobody, your mama and me, we didn't shave our vagina.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Unless we had crabs gonna rip. No, that's true. How you think about that? I was born in 1978, the first point I saw had bush. Yes. The Playboy Magnets had bush in them. And they only chained them if they had crabs. But now everybody's just walking around with a bird vagina. So I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So. What's a bird vagina? Just a bald head coochie. Doesn't look like a bird. Mine look like a beak if I, if I ever seen it because I got a flap in the front. Yo. Mine look like a beak if I ever seen it because I got a flap in the front. I don't think so. I put a mirror down there and it don't fog up. It look like a little bird.
Starting point is 00:11:33 So I don't do that. Are you having fun? You know what, life is great. My husband is retired. I just moved into my house. About time. About time. When did the house get finished?
Starting point is 00:11:46 I finished it. It took two and a half years because I was too cheap to hire a contractor. You was your own contractor. I was my own contractor in Tic-Toc. I was watching you. It's like 15,000 square feet. I tore up some stuff, put some stuff back in there. I'm a DIY and I keep telling these people, you need to give me a DIY show because that's
Starting point is 00:12:04 what I like to do. That's what I like to do. That's what I used to do before, when I immediately stopped stealing, I started doing DIY and I love it. So I built this house, my husband thought I was crazy. I know you went over budget because you was there every- One no budget.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Oh, okay. One no budget. When you see DIY though, you say, like what else do you like to do? Just like houses? I used to do like furniture, paint stuff, decorate. I like to do all of that, but my most is building. I like to see a house, I did my nephew house,
Starting point is 00:12:32 and he bought a flip, and then once you moved in the flip, you realize all the problem. I said, well look, I had all this stuff for the house I was building, so look, let me do your house. I tore his house up from the root to the tooth and put it back, and it's cute. You ain't got time for all of that though, Ms. Patrick. I do house from the root to the to the back. And it's cute. You ain't got time for all of that. I do. I really do.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I still do it. I still do. I'm doing somebody else's house right now and getting ready to do somebody else's house right now. Well, how you do tour, you do TV, you're a construction worker. Construction worker. How do you balance that and still be able to be a wife,
Starting point is 00:13:03 mom, like all of that? I've been married 30-something years, so when you've been married 30-something years, you just really dealt with somebody to watch TV with. So when I come home, I mean, I'm at the point, I was just telling somebody, I'm at the point where I just told my husband we can no longer sleep in the same bedroom.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Because I'm tired of sharing toilets with him. I'm tired of sharing a bed with him. He snores. He's on no Zempik. He ain't losing nothing but air. So I just want to be by myself. How do you take that? Why you wasting all this on Zempik?
Starting point is 00:13:35 Between you and your husband? You said it didn't work for you. You said it didn't work for him. It didn't work for me because I like to eat. I don't want nobody cutting off my appetite. Oh, so you can't eat with it? Oh, it don't let you eat. You really tried it for real?
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah, but I got gallstones in me to answer that. I don't want nobody cutting off my appetite. Oh, so you can't eat with it? Oh, it don't let you eat. You really tried it for real? Yeah, but I got gallstones immediately after, so I stopped. You stopped? Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:52 My gallbladder went, I don't think it made my gallbladder went bad. I think the fried food over the years shut my gallbladder down. So I had my gallbladder removed and I just kept going. But my husband lost like probably about 40, 50 pounds on it. Wow. So what did your husband say when you said you no longer want to be in the same room with him?
Starting point is 00:14:06 He good Face-timing each other Feet damn right right well So his bed haven't arrived to the new house yet, so we'll see how they work But we definitely got separate toilets. I'm tired of sharing the toilet with somebody. I'm just, I can't, I cannot. I just want peace.
Starting point is 00:14:31 That's all I want. I got you. Y'all gonna eventually get there. You gonna eventually get there. And that works for both of y'all. You and. I don't know if it works for him yet because I think he think I'm BSing. You just need breaks from each other every now and then.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Well, I go on the road every week. My husband's retired. He just take care of the house. So I think we get enough breaks. I've been gone since last week. So he won't see me until Monday or next week. Does he check on you at least? We talk every day.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I get up. You know, I have a routine that I've always had because it's the same drug dealer mentality that I got. I always wake up early in the morning. I don't sell drugs anymore, but the first person I call is my husband because I know my day is gonna get busy. And sometimes I'm on the other side of the world and I just wake him up every morning at six o'clock
Starting point is 00:15:15 each time. And we'll talk for an hour or two and then I know I talked to my husband. You was waking up to do radio, but what happened? They quiet me They quiet you fire me before I could quit Yeah, you know I told I told him me I said I'm gonna leave in August and before August could get there I was blown away. I never thought I was gonna get fired from that job. So you had no idea?
Starting point is 00:15:45 No, me and Shamil didn't have no idea. No idea at all. I just knew they was gonna renew her contract and I was gonna go about my business. I was never there and I could never be there, but that's what happened when you work with a hater. And I'm just gonna go on and say it. I don't even care cuz they came about whooped my ass. You know who the hater is, Tigger. Tigger's the biggest damn hater. I mean, Jess, I mean, you had a good show and you messed it up because of your ego. And I think it's because I was coming in and saying,
Starting point is 00:16:14 I know it because I didn't care. I said, look, I don't need a job. I work here, this my husband's check. I ain't never spent the check up here. I'm working for my husband's check. I ain't never seen, I ain't never spent a V103 check. This is my husband's check. And it't never seen, I ain't never spent a V103 check. This is my husband's check. And it is, you know, when you work with somebody who,
Starting point is 00:16:29 it's just jealousy. To me, it was jealousy. Really, I'm just gonna go and put it out there. And if you call me, we could fight in the street. Cut it out. It was jealousy. I bought a G-Wagon. Your truck called more than both of my cars.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I said, we'll buy you another car so we can be equal. Damn it. Thank you. Damn, Ms. Patton. I'm talking about shit. I like that. Yeah, you know, you, then you, I get, another thing was is that we was all equal so you couldn't talk down to nobody. You weren't gonna talk down to me no way because I would have whooped you like hey back in the day when I went back on section A I used to always want to get fired so my rent can go back down to free. So I didn't give a crap. But I was really, when they walked me in now and they said,
Starting point is 00:17:09 we're not renewing your contract, because I said I was leaving in August. I was so shocked. I said, y'all going to fire me? Wow. Do you know these people get up to listen to me? Don't nobody listen to this crap. Ms. Pat got to hit podcasts, hit TV shows. Hit TV shows.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And you're going to fire the person who had the most going on, which was me and Shamil. You going to lead a DJ? You want a DJ just to spin workers? Did Tigger at least reach out to you and say thank you for it? I blocked that nigga. Dang. He sure did.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I said, don't you, I'm not Shamil. You don't play with me. I mean, you know, Shamil was nice I think she still talked to him or whatever. She's nice because I still talk to her all the time But I'm not, I'm not. You know, you get one time to play with me. I'm 52 years old I don't have time to play these games with you You're low down, you're dirty and anybody who go over there and work for him and the show ain't doing, the show was doing well When I got there with that number 15 when I left We were two and three. Mm-hmm. You go fire
Starting point is 00:18:09 Nigga, you should have got fired a long time ago But keep your little show cuz I ain't never needed it Anyway, my step my team was like why are you going over there work for that old dead-ass station? I said I want to work for V 103. I'm from Atlanta. I want for V103. Don't make me wake up and take unnecessary baths. What? What? What? What?
Starting point is 00:18:30 You know. Lady get up and take a bath. Air warning, baby. Air warning. Yeah. Yo. Take no damn bath in those. I ain't gonna lie, Miss Pat.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I knew it wasn't gonna work. Why? When you came and did the week here. You all got me fired. Miss Pat came and did a week here, and that's competition, and she was only supposed to come here for one day. It ain't competition.
Starting point is 00:18:50 It was competition. You was in my city, cause I listen to y'all every morning now. It was, you got me fired. Y'all got me fired. That's right, Charlamagne. Y'all got me fired. You went to 96.1 out there.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Oh my God, when I got back on, hell broke a loose. Oh my God, you was the you was only you did the what is that report y'all do? What the hell is the rumor report I said, they just told me to set in on this. I didn't know that was the moment. But they gotta understand you a star outside of radio. But she was promoting her show at the time. I was promoting my show. The show just came back, yeah. I was promoting my show.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And I'm always, and you know, he would say, well, the show, I said, this show says your name. It does not say my name. So I worried about keeping the Miss Pat Show on. That's why I made my money. I don't make no money here. I mean, I made money there, but it was for my husband. That was why I make my money. I don't make no money here. I mean, I made money there, but it was for my husband.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I did that because I liked doing it. And then you gonna tell me not to go on one of the biggest shows to promote my show? To promote my, I told him this, I said, it really didn't hurt you, because people would have liked me and probably would have came over to listen to us in the morning.
Starting point is 00:20:02 You're stupid fool. And it's not like you wasn't shouting them out. It's not like we say hey don't shout out your radio show, Ms. Pat. Yeah, but it was it was a jealousy. You at the competition. Anyway, I don't compete. I'm fat. I came over here to tell people to watch the Ms. Pat show. I don't compete. I eat. Tell them Ms. Pat. Oh my God. Hit me up, boy. You know what? You and them rappers want to whoop your ass.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Well, I'm a comedian gonna have to get him. You're gonna have to get him. Jess, I wish you weren't pregnant so we could jump on these arms. You wouldn't want to do your own show though, Ms. Pat? I would want to do my own show. Pat need her own morning show if she want to get up on her own. I don't know if she got time. I'm a morning person.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I'm asleep by 6.35 if I'm just at home. But I do, I did. I learned a lot over there. And I really like doing radio. But I do, I did, I learned a lot over there. And I really like doing radio. But you know, it is what it is. They let me go, they acquired me, but it was day lost. It was day lost. I got a fourth season, I got season two of the Miss Pat Settles it.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I got other things going on. Shamil became a housewife. I said when she got that housewife, I said, ooh, I know you niggas sick now. You got rid of everybody who could've brought somebody to that dead ass station. So Miss Pat would've been on her fourth season and Shamir would've been the housewife
Starting point is 00:21:10 right now in the morning. And I'm the second season of the Miss Pat Settles It. Yeah, I just finished taping it. What was the craziest thing you've seen on that show? Yeah. When Miss Pat Settles It. These people crazy. And I don't know if y'all know, but some cases be real.
Starting point is 00:21:23 They be real? I was gonna say, are you a real judge? No No, I'm acting but those are real That's right, that's what I said when they asked when I pitched this idea to BET and they said you do it I'm like, but I'm a convicted felon. They was like, it's TV. I said, well, why not? The crazy case I seen on the second season, these two women got in the fed, her name was Shay Shay,
Starting point is 00:21:51 and they was in the feds. And I said, what was you in jail for? She said, dope! I said, damn. Dope. That woman was scared the hell out of me. How you mean, you used to be a dope dealer? But this lady came in on 99, baby.
Starting point is 00:22:08 She was ready to whoop her friend behind and everything. It was crazy. A fight of what, dope? No, she had did some work for it and the friend didn't want to pay her. And Shea Shea stand about 4 feet tall, about 80 pounds, but she one of them people who would fight. And baby, the friend were mild, mild and quiet You know don't want no don't want no smoke. It was hilarious. I said y'all put her in the commercial
Starting point is 00:22:31 Dope! What's up with the crack babies cartoon? Crack baby cartoon? Yeah, I thought you had a crack baby cartoon I'm still working on it. You know how some places are just slow. I got other things I'm working on Like building houses Yeah, I just sold another show. So keep your finger crossed.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Hopefully it'll get on up there. But I just sold another show, so we're working. What you talking about on the Hot and Flashy Tour? Like what's the content about? Just being a grown ass woman, being married, life, the things that I go through. You know one thing I learned about being in a different tax bracket that didn nobody tell me that you have to give
Starting point is 00:23:05 the government half the money that she made. And the government ain't never wrote no joke for me. I don't know them. You know what's crazy? I called the IRS and I'm telling all my family members to see if I can get a cut, a discount. You gonna start snitching on them? Hell yeah, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:23:22 I mean, you know how many of my cousins that file taxes for kids that ain't they kids? Of course. Won't that help us? You just want a couple of percent to take points off. Instead of taking half, you just take 40% and tell those people how weird that body is. I'm Jason Alexander.
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Starting point is 00:26:03 you know, keystones to the culture. This season we've had some amazing one-on-one conversations like I'm Pay Bill chatting up with hit maker Sam Holland, I'm shook with Steve chatting with the legend Nick Lowe, and I've had pleasures of doing one-on-one conversations with Willow, Sonata Maitreya, Kathleen Hanna, and The RZA. These are conversations you won't hear anywhere else. So make sure you go back and you check those episodes out, all right?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Happy holidays from me, Michael Rappaport, and my gift to you is a free subscription to the I Am Rappaport Stereo Podcast, where I discuss entertainment, sports, politics, and anything and everything that catches my attention. I am here to call it as I see it, and there's a whole lot of things catching my eyes these days.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Here's a clip from one of my favorite episodes. You are not a real fighter. You will never be discussed anywhere in boxing history. Ever. Fake Paul. The movie is The Apprentice, and the movie is about young Donald Trump and his apprentice, Roy Cohen.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Real character character obviously both real characters, it kind of has a Scarface vibe to it which I thought was very interesting. Listen to the I Am Rap Report Stereo podcast on the iHeart Radio app Apple podcast and wherever you get your podcast. You do PPP lawns? I didn't do no PPP loan, and thank God I didn't. First of all, nothing is free in this world. I already know that, because I used to steal. So if somebody giving you something free
Starting point is 00:27:51 is to put you on a hook, and everybody I seen get them PPP loans, now they out of the trillions of dollars, now they going to the hundred thousand and the million dollar people. I'm not, I told everybody, don't take those loans. I'm okay. I went home and paid my whole basement during the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yourself? Mm-hmm. Really? I sure did. Did floors and then ended up the show got picked up and our second season, we moved back to Atlanta. I won't take no money. I don't take no free money.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Ain't nothing free in this world. That's right. What made you get into DIY so much? Like when did you first start just? My husband used to do, my husband used to work at Simmons Mattress, then he went and started building houses. And so I bought my house that I was on section 8 for like 10 years, and I lied like everybody else do.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And I got a husband, and I ain't tell the truth. And I think my sister didn't report me. So they took my section 8. Go to hell, Charlamagne. Go to hell. And they cut my food stamps off. So my rent went from zero. The lady said, well, I just paid the mortgage with 600. So she was getting older.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And she said, look, you really need to buy this house for me. And my husband, I ain't buying this regular house. I said, I think the house got some good bones. So I bought the house. We bought the house and I still own the house over there on Hawthorne Drive in Atlanta, Georgia. And I just towed that house, I towed it up. And I said, I want a bigger bedroom.
Starting point is 00:29:13 So I hired an architect. That's when the housing market failed the first time, like in early 2000. And I just- 2008, right? The housing market failed and I hired an architect because all of them was laid off. And he charged me me like two thousand dollars to draw the back of my house And I just had got my husband boss
Starting point is 00:29:30 He was doing house at the time and he did and we did the rest Why she rent the house out now and hard doing I do rent the house out for too cheap She I didn't even I lived in Indiana for 15 years and I was I didn't even I lived in Indiana for 15 years and I was The real $800 and my friends say do you know what Rick calls in Atlanta and I'm like no For 15 years I ran in my house Square feet that person never left problem But I look at it like this I'm not trying to make a big profit.
Starting point is 00:30:07 They take really good care of my house. So I really held them in there, taking really good care of my house, didn't be trying to rob them blind. So they've been there now for about 14 years? 13, 14 years? Not even a thousand now? I did, I raised it a little bit. Okay, I was gonna say. I raised it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But you know, I don't need the money, I just need the mortgage pay. And what they've done over the years, they've paid the mortgage. I mean, they're really great tenants. I think I'm a great landlord. I go over there and do what I'm supposed to do every year without them asking.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I kind of wish they would move so I can remodel it, but I ain't gonna complain. Is it true that you never wanted to be famous? Because your mom used to always tell you that you wasn't gonna be shit Yeah, it was the fame was something and I don't consider myself famous now. I consider myself with a lot of jobs Because you know, I was just it's the way my mama beat me down. She always said I wasn't good enough She always said I wasn't shit So in my, I never saw myself like other people.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And my husband told me, he said, that's why you don't wanna do a lot of things, because I was scared to get out there. I wanted to make the money, but I didn't wanna be up front. And then when I got this TV show, it really put me out there. And I didn't even know I was shy.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Like, if you wanna take a picture with me, I do it. But then I'd be like, why? I used to always ask myself why. And people would come up to me and be like, oh, Miss Pay, you so great, you telling my story. And I'm like, no, I'm telling my story. So if fame is something I had to get used to, like I don't go to the black Walmarts
Starting point is 00:31:35 because they won't leave me the fuck alone. So I try to go way out in the white neighborhood because white people, they treat fame different. What's up, Miss Pay? Black people, shaking on you, pulling your way. They'll get your hands on Nobody you think I'm shakeable I ain't gonna keep taking you. I ain't gonna take too many of these little, these little dicks at you yet.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You see these dicks at me. I'm gonna take one of my boobs out and drop them on your head and break your damn neck. What's wrong with him, Envy? Oh man. You know it's me, Omar. That's why I'm glad when you come up here. Listen.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You and Jess got my back. I love it. How was it at BET? Huh? How was it at BET? I love BET. I do. I really do.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I'm being honest. I you know what I When I first went in My the my hustle versus what they were used to doing was different But since I'm it's my show I just say hey y'all if we can work together This is what I would like to be done And so we I've been over there four years now So we work together and they know what Miss Pat want. You know, one of the things that tripped me out
Starting point is 00:32:48 the first season, whatever they did for one show, they did for every show. And I said, oh, let me talk to you. I can't stand alone if all of us gonna do the same promo. So I started coming up with ideas. I started talking to the promo team. Oh, me and Joel was start coming up with ways to make all shows stand out.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And let me just say that this is our best season ever. I don't know why it took four seasons to really get in for black people and other people to really get on it, but this season has, this is our most watched season ever. Wow, congrats. We kick nothing but ass. But you dug it out a lot though yourself though, like you have done what you had to do.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Like most of the time where I see you, or I run into you, or if I see you on the red carpet, or even if you hit me in the DM, this is not because BET said it, you do it. Yeah. And that's the biggest thing. And you've been doing it from the beginning. And that's what I tell people who come over there.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I say, hey, you know, everybody got only so much promotional money to apply. And BET is not CBS. So I just use my street knowledge and I say, you know what, give me this. You don't want to give it, I'm gonna spend my own money. I spent a lot of my own money. I hired a PR person. I mean, I hired everything I needed and people like, oh, they BET give her some promotion. They do give me promotion, but when you see me doing certain things, a lot of it is time, it's me out of my pocket. I don't, I didn't
Starting point is 00:34:04 wait to BET get me on late night, I hired me a PR person. Late night didn't even want me. But this lady Pam, who I hired, she just kept, y'all gotta take her, y'all gotta take her, y'all gotta take her. And I ended up in the right place and I ended up getting, same thing with you guys. First time I asked to come over here, the note back was she ain't famous enough, who is she? Who said that?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Shut your ass up, you said that. I ain't said that. And then I run into him at a Lee Daniel party, and Lee Daniel introduced us. At a Diddy party? Oh, Diddy. Oh, I did say Diddy party. Yeah, he been to a Diddy party. I ain't never been to no Diddy party, ever in my life.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Why is everybody denying Diddy parties? Diddy through nice parties. I never went there. That don't mean you got taken in a room. That don't mean somebody touch you. That just mean you was at a diddy party. I mean everybody act like if you go to a diddy party, you had to do something to diddy to be at the party.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I never went. I don't know. But you probably did go, but don't deny it now. I've never been to a diddy party. You never got invited to it. You look like you went to a diddy party. They don't invite you no way. The way you over there greased up.
Starting point is 00:35:02 They know I'm a towel, Ms. Pat. The way you over there greased up. You think I'm gonna let them wife fuck me in the ass and not there greased up. They know I'm a towel, Ms. Pat. The way you over there greased up. You think I'm gonna let my wife fuck me in the ass and not tell? Yeah, I think you would let somebody fuck you in the ass and not tell. Then when the wind you're a bitch. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Ah! That is not funny. I am a victim. That was hilarious. That episode was an ass-sweep. That actually was a sorry. What did you have to do to keep that Wendy Williams job? I've heard a few things.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Whoa. Heard you had to pick the health of plastic titties. He said pick the health of. Said you want to keep digging at me. What you had to do to keep that? Because that's what popped Charlamagne in the world. So, you want me to want a ditty party? Tell us what you did over there.
Starting point is 00:35:56 You had to take one for the team. Tell your wife, this is going to get us off Medicaid. This is going to get us off Medicaid. Look at him laugh. You know I'm telling the truth. Then all of a sudden, she let you go. She let you go and every sale. No more plastic titties to pick. You the reason why she got dementia. Man, cut it out. You had to forget.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Oh my goodness. She had to forget. She had to forget that too. She had to forget that too. She had to forget that too. She had to forget that too. She had to forget that too. What is it? Man, that is funny as shit.
Starting point is 00:36:30 What if Diddy start claiming dementia, yo? What? What if Diddy start claiming dementia? He battle. That might be the way. He battle. Cause it looks, it looks joiny on his tongue. He got dementia. This bat is wild, yo. He better, cause he look, who is joining you on this tour?
Starting point is 00:36:45 He got you a picture. This Pat is wild, man. No, he keep talking at me. And I ain't never wanted to say that to him before. But you know that he been out there saying stuff. And I seen it. But I ain't never walked in, but he gonna keep on calling me fat. How'd I not call you fat?
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yes you do. How much you eat? You know can't nobody shake you. You don't think I see all them little dibs. He act like when he first met me I was 110. All of a sudden I blew up from stir rods and some shit. I been fat, I been fat since I had that first baby. But nobody ever said Ms. Pat wasn't famous to come up here. Nobody said that.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yes you did, yes you did. No we didn't. Because I asked, I asked, and the answer was no. I saw you at that Lee Daniel thing, and Lee Daniel introduced you, you're like, yeah, come on the show. And I'm like, and my thing was, because y'all didn't know me, y'all wasn't really familiar, and I said, I'ma walk you here.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I read Rabbit. You read Rabbit after we sent it to you, after you let me know. So all I had was a book, I really didn't have no show or anything. And I said, you ain't gonna never fucking forget me. Cause I was mad. Cause I tried several times to get on here.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I'm glad I'm on here now. But the publishers will lie and say that if the publishers, if they do reach out. I had no publishers at the time, I could afford now. All I had was- I wonder who they was talking to. Hmm, my manager. I don't know who it was back then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Nobody said that. If they did, no. You said it because you didn't even know me. I'm sure they did. Thank you, Envy. I'm sure they did. But I don't remember nobody asking about Ms. Pat. Because when Ms. Pat came so early, she was introducing her story for the first time to
Starting point is 00:38:18 us and we were like in a maze. But I had Red Rabbit already. The first time you came in, I had Red Rabbit. I think you came with your daughter at the time too. That was the first time she told the story and then it just started going from there for Ms. Pat. Yeah because y'all said no because I thought you didn't like me because you were going to catch a flight and then you kept turning around you was like I'm gonna miss my damn flight. It was just me and you. You don't remember who he was there too? No he left the first time.
Starting point is 00:38:42 The second time I came back he was there there. You had to get your phone. Well, I'm glad I had read the book. He ain't read that damn book. I did read the book. There's so much in that book. I remember to this day. Because I was sitting there reading like, damn, this woman done been through a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah, we just said you been through a lot. You had your nipple shot off. Yes, I did. Damn. You sold dope. I sold a lot of dope. And then I think a year later, I seen you in the BET Awards, the red carpet.
Starting point is 00:39:01 You seen the BET Awards. And this is how crazy it was. BET didn't even know who Miss Pat was. The show was so early. And I called you over, the red carpet. You've seen BET Awards. And this is how crazy it was. BET didn't even know who Miss Pat was. The show was so early. And I called you over, remember? Yep. I even knew the story, because your show, Fox had picked it up. It was Fox Show.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Then it was Hulu. Hulu shot the pilot. And then BET ended up grabbing it. BET got it out of the vault, because they threw it in the vault. When I called my son a nigga, that white man said, uh-uh. No, we ain't going to be able to do that. I said, it's just like calling your kids to school, shoot a white people.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Damn. Damn. They threw it in the vault and then BT came and got it. And we've been popping ever since. But we love you, Miss Pat. I love you guys. How can you not love Miss Pat? We support you for anything that you do,
Starting point is 00:39:37 we support you, we appreciate you. What the hell? I do love you, Miss Pat, I'll fuck with you and that beat. No, we love you, Miss Pat. You know what, he will text back. He used to then text back. That is not true! You famous as fuck. Miss Pat called, check up on me.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Birthdays, holidays, just make sure I'm alright. I forgot to tell you, Happy Father's Day, Envy. I forgot to text you yesterday. Happy Father's Day, nigga. Thank you, Miss Pat. Happy Father's Day to you, too. Fuck you! You look different on the top of your head. Is that from Wendy?
Starting point is 00:40:11 He can never leave you alone, yo. Yo. Oh my gosh. I love that. I thank y'all. I thank y'all. Man, that headline will be so funny. Mr. Patty Q's is Wendy Williams of ****.
Starting point is 00:40:23 What? What? What did you say? Who did you say? Oh, man. I go be so funny miss Patacuses Wendy Williams Right he wanted That was his first radio job Yes, it was I did I worked in South Carolina. Yeah, that don't count. Nobody listen to shit in South Carolina. I did four stations. I was on four stations in South Carolina. Boy, please, the rats in New York was more famous than you. You had to do what you had to do. And Bigfoot was your favorite.
Starting point is 00:40:57 That's the little man listening to this shit. The things we had to do. The things we had to do. I ain't never had to do none of that. Oh my god. Have you ever seen the picture of him naked? I ain't never had to do none of that. Oh my God. Have you ever seen the picture of Wendy Williams sitting on her lap? No.
Starting point is 00:41:14 You never seen that picture? What picture of me naked? That's why you in that throne now ain't it? I'm about to get out of it, my back hurt. What you had to do to get here? How much you make over that? Because I know you made a lot. I worked for free for a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:41:32 That what you thought. Show the picture, show the picture. You were sitting there with me laughing. Look, come on now. You going to tell me this ain't Butt Partners? That woman is sick, Ms. Pack. I know, of you. She erased her own memory.
Starting point is 00:41:50 That's right. Y'all gonna get me in trouble. Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Pat, season four of the Ms. Pat Show on BET Plus. Check it out. And again, Ms. Pat, we love you. Thank you. Make sure y'all go to MsPatCompany.com for all the tickets. I'm in your town this weekend, South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:42:06 What part, where? Greensboro. Greensboro. Is that North Carolina? Greensboro is North Carolina. Okay, I just left Greenville, so I'm going to North Carolina. Greensboro, make sure y'all get y'all tickets this weekend.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Only one show left. All right, we gotta go see Miss Pat, man. Absolutely. When you gonna be close to this area? I'm going on tour with Martin. I don't know if I'm coming to New York, but I'm doing like 10 dates with Martin. I think they're doing the Barclays.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I think they're doing the Barclays, I thought I saw. I don't know if I'm on that show. Ain't you on a tour with Martin too? Yeah, so I don't know where I'm going. Oh, okay. Yeah. Go to MissPat.com, what is it? Miss Pat, go to ComedianMissPat.com.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Make sure y'all keep streaming season four of the Miss Pat Show so I can get season five. Absolutely. Pay for my pool. Well it's the Breakfast Club, it's Miss Pat ladies and gentlemen. Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. I'm Jason Alexander. And I'm Peter Tilden. And together our mission on the Really No Really podcast is to get the true answers to life's baffling questions like why the bathroom door doesn't go all the way to the floor?
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