The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: Nate Jackson On Mastering Crowd Work, New Netflix Special, 'The Office' Spinoff, Gary Owen + More

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

Best of 2025- Kings of Comedy - Nate Jackson On Mastering Crowd Work, New Netflix Special, 'The Office' Spinoff, Gary Owen. Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051...FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:23 DJ Envy's around here somewhere, but we've got a special in the building. He's got a new Netflix special called Super Funny. Nate Jackson is. How are you doing, my brother? I'm doing good. How about you? Don't come.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Don't look over here, get gritting and smiling looking for material. Right. Right. You see his mind going. I swear to God, I'm not even on that right now. Yeah, right. We see your mind going. No, this is my first time on Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I'm like, yo, that's crazy. He just started, yep, this is what happened. I'm like, oh. It's happening. That's what I'm on. What's up, man? How you doing? I'm doing good, man.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Things are going crazy. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I love that. I love to see when we, like us, when we get specials. You're proud of me. Yes, I'm proud of you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Are you kidding me? Thank you. I watched a video with the flickering and you came down the hallway and then disappeared in the chair. I was like, don't want to want to talk about. Thank you, Nate. Thank you. For the people who don't know or who may not be familiar, who is Nate Jackson?
Starting point is 00:04:26 I guess T. I dubbed me the king of crowd work. entrepreneur. I own the biggest black on comedy club in the country. Super funny comedy club. There you go, in Tacoma, Washington. I'm a guy that got it out the mud from the very bottom and scraped my way up to a Netflix special that was in the top 10 and
Starting point is 00:04:43 peaked at number three and did extremely well for the platform. And there's a lot coming. There's TV shows. There's movies. And so I'm excited. That's who I am. I'm here excited, hugable gangster cousin. Well, there's people that probably
Starting point is 00:04:59 Don't, you know, might have thought you came out of nowhere. Like, you got the Super Funny Comedy Club in 2021, right? Yeah, well, basically we were building it and then the news was saying that COVID was coming. Which is, which is, which is, which is, who, it's hard enough to build a place, let alone watch the news and be like, I don't think it's going to come over. I don't think it's going to, if you remember Seattle's
Starting point is 00:05:17 where it first touchdown in the United States. As soon as it was like, I think it was Everett Washington or something. It was like two hours north. I was like, oh, this is a rap. So that might have been a blessing then. A few, you got you some PPP loans? No, because you had to be open for like a year to get EIDL and PPP. Yeah, we had no help.
Starting point is 00:05:34 We could lie like everybody else? Man, I tried. I tried to create, I was a, I have an auto detail business. I have a dog grooming business. When you shit me? I clean shoes. I was coming up with everything. All of them were like, did it, did did do, do nothing was working.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So, no, we just fought on our own. We just fought it, you know what I'm saying? And survived. And so we were at the first location for five years. Now we're at a brand new location downtown on the Marriott block. Dope from Tacoma, you know, but it's, that's it. Like, this is it. From my city, we're in the most peak spot, best location he could be.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And now it's like, we're thriving like crazy. But you were a veteran, though. You've been doing comedy for like 20, 26 years? Somewhere between 23 and 24. Okay. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I've been, that's what I'm saying. I've been at it for a minute.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You know what? We've met before, and it's worth me talking about for a second, Charlotte, Maine. So I was working with Jesse Collins Entertainment as a crowd warm-up, and they did this show, hip-hop, Hollywood Squares. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and Jess was the square,
Starting point is 00:06:38 and D.C. was the square. And other, like, cast members from Wiling Out and stuff were squares. That's when D.R.A. was holding it? Yeah. Okay. And I really wanted to be in a square. Like, when soundstage would be empty, I'd be sitting in a square.
Starting point is 00:06:51 And, like, to the point where they, like, over a headset, That was like, Nate Jackson, out of the square. Like, just total rejection. Like, yeah, like, this is for stars. Entertain the crowd, which is mad humbling, right? Like, I've been won the Bay. All the accolades and stuff, and I'm looking at who my peers are. And I'm like, I've, you cuss on here?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Yeah. Yeah, I was like, I fuck with all of them. But goddamn, a nigga can't get a square? Let me get just, like, one of them shitty episodes, like episode 14 out of 15 that y'all done through to the, the low budget one, you know what I'm saying? Right. man, they put me out the chair.
Starting point is 00:07:24 So we were on a break in between two segments. And I was so upset this day, man. You don't have one of them days where you're like, man, fuck all this? Yeah. That's what I was on. And Tip was like in the top left square. And we had met before. And he told me to play, he was like, play, you want me to play juvenile.
Starting point is 00:07:43 You see that 98 Mercedes on TV. Yeah, 40 degrees. He was like, yeah, he played that too. So I played that. I remember the day now. You're talking about. I do. Man the Seals was there.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah. And so he was up there. So in the break, you were like, come in the break, you were like, come in, so Tip was like doing that. And then I came down and you were, you were either in the bottom one or the left one, but you were right there. And you were like, yo, you're killing it. I was like, excuse me? And you were like, I fuck with like the, I can't remember exactly what you said, but you were like, I fuck with like, you know, the crowdwork guys. I fucked with the little guy because I was the little guy, man.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I came up under Wendy and I got it out the mud. So when I see y'all, I watch it, I was like, niggie, you don't even know. what that did for me that day on mamas. And I'm just telling you, the little things like that, I was like, you know what, let me just play my role, let me do my shit and let me just, you know what I'm saying? But that was, that was heavy that day. I remember that day because when 40 degrees came on, all of us that from the South started rapping it, like
Starting point is 00:08:40 everybody, I used to leap shit and talk rap. Yeah, that was a great day. See the 98 Mercedes on TV about that. And I looked up in all nine squares is rock. I was like, okay. And I remember you doing the crowd work, but I remember you being a little bit bigger. Okay. I mean, I'm not expecting now. I'm like, fuck on that.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I remember you a little bigger too, nigga. What the fuck? What is that? Wow. Just came right forward. Let's say you're just like, welcome to the show. God, damn.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Welcome to the don't eat breakfast club because we're trying to lose weight. Yeah, man, I went, I went fruit and veggie raw on May 1st, and I lost 38.5 pounds. So I'm just, like, melting. And so now I'm, like, trying to introduce, you know, some white meats back and whatever, just because I was like, man, there's too much chicken going to buy. Everybody's like, yeah, yeah, we eat it, but you're not. So I basically just eat around the outside of the grocery store and stay out the middle. And so I've just been melting away.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Was it a scare or you just wanted to get healthier or the reason why? I want to see where my dick connect to my body. Okay. Damn. I got to see my eyes. Oh, that makes sense? You also address it. I have a joke about it.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I'm like, I can see the first seven inches, but that's, but that's a little bit. At first five, I can't see that part. So that's a joke. But, no, I just wanted to lose some weight, man. I had, I mean, we lost Teddy Ray. We lost, we don't let him go. No, you're laughing at that now. I'm laughing.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I'm still having this big joke. You did the math. You can't do the big. They didn't start shouting out dead people. Rest of peace, Teddy Ray. Them things that dicks, too? The fuck? No.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Anyway. So I'm going to see first seven and that half that, but rest of pieces is always over. Right. Man. But you know what? I noticed in your special, you talk about it a lot, your weight and eating. And you got a lot of food. jokes or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah, I did like four minutes over to just break the ice. Yeah, yeah. For sure. And then they're like, oh, that's what we're going to take for the national clip. That's going to be your trailer. I'm like, oh, okay. So now, okay. What about all the other
Starting point is 00:10:35 stuff I said? But how does it impact now? Because now, you know, you lost a lot of weight. And I'm guessing you're still coming down, right? So how does that affect your comedy now? Like, you're still doing the food jokes? You can. I mean, it's not, I don't have, I had food jokes, but it was more about weight loss jokes and temptation.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And you could have that at any weight. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was crafted or I was like, I think I'm losing weight, but I can still get these jokes off. You know what I mean? But at the end of it, I write a lot. And that's what the crowd work in.
Starting point is 00:11:02 You're writing on the spot. So just switch it up. Is there anything that you stay away from? Like, you know, because I feel like the world is so sensitive now. Like you say one thing, you know, we're going to cancel you. Is anything that you stay away from or you'd be like, fuck it? I kind of am with everything, but I will tread lightly around, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:22 some politics stuff. because they've just been so it's so magnetized you know at a point people are like I don't even care what he's talking about no more because he's not he's obviously not and I'm like man just chill out I want everybody to laugh first
Starting point is 00:11:35 that's why it's called super funny I wasn't that's the theme of the show love love hard eat good and laugh laugh to your fullest so that's the thing that's what that's what it is I was going to say do you think people miss the funny and things because they want to cancel you they are looking for
Starting point is 00:11:51 something to be hurt or affected by I remember one time you just laughed It wasn't it could be a black joke A white joke a gay joke a straight joke It didn't matter if it was funny was funny But now I feel like people look for something to be like I'm gonna cancel you off that word right there you know Yeah depend on the word but yeah
Starting point is 00:12:07 Or the term or the joke I think it depends on how you're saying it Right like what I can stand the least Is when a comic takes the time to craft a beautiful joke And I mean a beautiful joke where it like meanders And then you get hit with the punchline And then you still be like but the topic was da-da-da-da-ay man chill out
Starting point is 00:12:25 that's a good-ass joke also I think we're shifting back some and I don't want to say it on a platform so big that people are like oh you think we won't cancel you too nigga I don't need that smoke but I'm just saying I think there's been a shift since I don't know maybe 2019 2020 definitely I'm saying and so there's been some pushback
Starting point is 00:12:43 people like Schultz and people like Chappelle that are like I'm man fuck all that comedy first then we'll talk about what's next that's right that's the key to that though right like if you are going to say anything that's going to be even a little bit controversy. It has to be funny. It has to be funny. So people can't be. It's got to be so funny
Starting point is 00:13:00 to the point where they only want to cancel you man. That is funny. Right. Yeah. I had a joke about a Vietnamese car dealer and sounds ridiculous. I'm from Tacoma, Washington and we kick it with the Vietnamese, Cambodian, Samoans, black people. We all, everyone's all
Starting point is 00:13:16 mixed. So when you go gamble, the dealer going to be Vietnamese. And they were teaching me words. And so I start picking up on the dialect and be like do my and stuff like that so I had this joke what does that mean that means fuck you and so I picked up on that this is uh do my is fuck you and umma and then uh uh the cambodians they'd be like kade yoma or something like that and that means like pussy ass so they say that a lot and i just started hearing it not knowing what it was I'm like why y'all keep saying do my what is do my and they're like oh yeah I mean fuck you
Starting point is 00:13:46 I'm like what the fuck so I wrote a joke about how I have found out but I put it after I hit a jackpot So basically she was calling me Bow-Bow, which was my interpretation of her saying, negative my face, and I didn't know. So I slowly reveal that they've been being racist to me. And then I get hers and get back, the dealer, and I'd say she acts black. So I said, well, okay, you act black then. And she's like, I don't know my father. I'm like, bitch, that's not.
Starting point is 00:14:11 What the fuck? I was listening for an accent. What are you supposed to sound black? Stop me, stop. He's got it. Stop. There's a lady in there that really don't know my dad like she. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Ah! Now she's about to come in like, do ma, do ma'am. That's messed up. That shit triggered her. I'm so sorry. Man, I was watching one of your specials before, one of your crowdwork specials, man. There was a fat dude in the crowd. The fat dude named Big Mac, that due security.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I don't know if you remember, but the dude was like, he said something to you, and you was like, don't get mad at me. I'm not the one who fed you. I want to feed you. I don't make you bite on that shit. People be in the comments like, pop calling the kettle black. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:15:00 nah, that's a little pot calling a big-ass kettle black. But the point of the Vietnamese joke was that same joke, JFL was like, we can't have you up here because you're saying that joke. I'm like, did you listen to it? Right.
Starting point is 00:15:13 So I just got back from, I came straight from Montreal here. Oh, okay. To where I had my own show. I had, like, I did, I'm a variety top 10. Yes. I got that this year. And so, but it brings it full circle to be like, you know, I almost, I was like, I should do the joke.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. You know what? I was like, you know what? I'm not going to be bitter. I can't. That's because it's funny. You shouldn't. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:15:34 If it's funny. Now, if I just came out like, me and the means, sound crazy. And I just start cussing like, I'm like, that, that is a, that's, you overstepping. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But, nah, and that's my pet people. Like, if somebody, if you can, you can hear the intellect, then the joke and the setup and be like, ooh, that was good misdirection. to hear that and be like nah
Starting point is 00:15:50 it's like how some older black people are like I didn't even have fun because he cussed 14 times these in there counting exactly man listen to the show yes listen give people the story so you went from you're doing the warm up
Starting point is 00:16:02 warming up the crowd at the hip hop squares but I know you ended up on a while and now like how did all of those stuff things happen oh my goodness that's not my start my start I just got dared to do comedy while I was in college and I went on stage and I was like oh this was kind of good
Starting point is 00:16:16 and so I stuck with it And then I moved immediately to L.A. And I was there for, like, six years. And then I was like, I need to go home and stack some bread. So I started, like, 12 shows. And then I combined it into one show. And it was, like, the biggest show. It was like Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:16:31 It was, like, 420 people for, like, eight years. It was massive. And, um... In Seattle. In Tacoma. In Tacoma. Yeah, downtown Tacoma. And, um, if it's really like 80 people every Thursday,
Starting point is 00:16:41 in case the IRS is listening. So it was like, it was hella. Um, but then I stacked and came back. And so then different, opportunities started to kind of come together and so I had an opportunity to work with Jesse Collins Entertainment and that's how I did the crowd work
Starting point is 00:16:55 and I think it was just a plug from D-Ray because I do Monday nights at the improv and D-Ray all the time. Shout out to D-ray and so that's how I got into that but the way Hollywood man you'll have a day where you're like yo I made it. You'll be
Starting point is 00:17:11 standing on a table fist pumping the air between Tony Rock and Chris Rock, fuck it. You know what I'm saying? Like, it would feel like a million bucks. And then the next day, you're like, damn, I got to perform in this dungeon.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Yeah. It's not, it's up, but you got to do it all. And so, you know, that's essentially why I was where I was. I was like, man, I just can't get a damn break. I got wild and out. I do four episodes. Nile says I look old.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I'm like, niggott, Cory Holcomb is here. How fuck? I look old. And no shade, no shade. But I'm just saying, don't say I look old, nigga. I said you look old. No, he, he, he, he, he, I'm like, I waited to get on the show for six years.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yeah, I look old now. What the fuck? Give me a part of my hair. Let me rock. And then every game was rapping. I'm like, nigga, we can't just do no old school. You just be funny. Nick, they would have a game.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Like, all right, this is what we're going to do. You're going to roast this thing. We're like, bad. All the comments, like, yeah, oh, yeah. Nick me in the corner like, you know what it needs? Bars. Now we're like, fuck. We just get out the way.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Trying to clips, man. Go here, man. God damn. Here come Justina. Go ahead, man. I'm like, that's not my bag. I'll learn it, but that ain't my bag. You only did four episodes a while now?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, I did four, but they were big ones, though. Got you, got you. They were big ones, though. Like, I did Erica Badu episode. We did, because I can sing too. So we did the revenge of Tyrone, where she did the follow-up to call Tyrone. And then I did the Travis Scott episode. And then I did the one where to do it had hella kids.
Starting point is 00:18:41 But then he said we can't talk about the kids. Nick? Nick Cannon? No, no, it was somebody more, I think. Dang. Cromartie? Oh, Antonio Cromartie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Oh, wow. That's all we want to talk about. Like, if you got a million kids, he was like, anything but the kids. We're like, well, then go home. Right. Yeah, so I did some good, you know what, and so I'll like that. You know what? I think the reason I only got the four, and I'd like to say this on this platform,
Starting point is 00:19:06 on the Erica Badoo episode, she came and she was like, yo, let me meet the people I'm going to be on the episode with. Me and the 85 South guys all stood around on the soundstage with Nile. And she's like, here's what I think we should do. And I'll ran down the games. Here's what we're going to do, freestyle from there. She's like, okay, I'm going to my dressing room. I want one of the brighter ones to come with me.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Now I'm standing up there with one episode under my belt. She's like, you, what's your name? I'm like, Nate Jackson. She's like, you tell me what's going on here. And now I was like, I was like, hey, Carlos, can you come with me? She's like, grab Carlos, we go down. She's like, there's going to be a part where I go down to my knee and I'm singing real hard.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I want you to put my jacket on me like James Brown. I'm going to throw it off. and come back like a phoenix and i'm gonna kill it i'm like bet that part of the show happens i walk out i put the thing on her everything happens as planned after it's over execs come up and they're like who the fuck told you to walk out sorry what wow erika badu did erika badu told you to walk out yeah she said throw the thing on her why do you what you thought i just over just came out the i know i'm uh barely welcome here nigga why would i put mess up your million million dollar moment you know what i'm saying and so that's what it was like
Starting point is 00:20:15 I was on ice, but it only takes... But the show is improv. So even if you did do that, and it worked, who cares? Come on, man. Put the other hat on. You exact. You put your bag into Erica being on episode. Here come one of your little niggins doing anything in frame.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah. That she asked to do that, though. Oh, specifically. And I even remember being like, somebody was next to me. I was like, hey, she said to throw the thing. You want to go out? And they were like, well, no, I'm here. I don't want to go.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I was like, okay. Well, she asked, like, I'm not going to... I don't want to not do it. Then after she's like, where was the nigga? I was waiting. Man Did you really tell Nick? When?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Nick and Nick is like Batman Nick you see Nick there Motherfucking Ninja Smoke Hey, hello Nick? When the last time you see Nick? Playing cards on the internet I've not seen that nigga in person
Starting point is 00:21:04 You're kidding me he's just in a garage Doing upside down sit-ups You don't never see Nick He got too many shows That nigga was shooting six shows one time. That's crazy. I could not believe, bro, he shot like a vlog, a Deaseless and Merrill thing.
Starting point is 00:21:20 He shot Wolling out. Then he went to AGT. Then he shot a car show. I was like, this, this is tired. Yes. No, see Nick. When? With the successor of social media for you, how did that affect? Did that happen because you planned it out or were people just taking
Starting point is 00:21:35 clips and you were just like, what the fuck's going on? No, man, I've been grinding for a minute. And so that's what I was saying when I had the Thursday night for so many years, you could come to the Pacific Northwest and be like, okay, there's a guy up there that got the sauce, right? And so what happens a lot of times is somebody's further in their career than you, they'd be like, let me just get a little bit of that
Starting point is 00:21:51 and take that with me. So there was a lot of my recipe out ahead of me before I had the exposure. They were stealing your stuff. You know? They were stealing your stuff. Hey, man, I don't want to call nobody no thief without them here to defend themselves. You know what I'm saying? And also to be choked or whatever happens after that life.
Starting point is 00:22:07 But the thief ain't going to never admit they stole those people. They don't have to, there's ways to catch people. All I had to do was weight. be patient, work hard like you said the Netflix special speaks for itself it's like watching Elvis for years
Starting point is 00:22:20 and then you see the dude who showed them the legs like oh them leg that nigga got the legs you know what I'm saying so that made me forget the damn question
Starting point is 00:22:30 I was talking about social media yeah so one of the homies not one of the homies several people like Matt Rife Roy Wood and Rodney Perry they're all like
Starting point is 00:22:38 and shout out to Rodney Perry but they're like yo you need to get on on TikTok And I was like, hey, I'm exhausted right now. I'm not getting another app. You know how that feels. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Right, we're like, hey, get on, get on do-to-blue-bloom. You're like, I'm not getting on do-to-bloom, nigga, like, I'm done. I'm happy with my IG set up, my Facebook shit cool. I'm not hiring a nigga to put me on do-do-bloom-bloom. And that's how it sound when you first hear it, because it's always a, you know, like a fucking do-do-bloom-bloom-bloom. Yeah, he's popping, nigga. You on the T-Ap?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Right. Now they got my house address and my goddamn. You want a T-A-Boo? No. No. Not that I know of. Not that I know it unless somebody posted me on that old. All right, look at see up Nate Jackson on the T app, man.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I'm not on there. Neither is hurt. Dad. No, I didn't say. Oh, I didn't say. I'm sorry. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:29 This is a tough room. Post him on there. Maybe he doesn't tell you where he is. Oh, shit. God damn. Is he okay? Is he okay, though? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah, he's a lot. He's a lot. He's a lot. Okay. All, I wasn't dancing on that guy. Nice. He's a way from her, he's fine. But no, I said, I don't want to do another app.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And so I got on, reluctantly, I got on TikTok, and I don't know if it's still exactly like this, but at the time, like, people were willing to actually follow because people's IG be set up. You're like, I ain't fine. Somebody got to really, somebody got to, you got to see 12 good things when somebody to be like, you know what, I'm going to give you a fuck. Like on TikTok, it just felt like, hi, I'm following. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:07 So it jumped for, it jumped for me like from zero. zero to like 25,000 in like, I don't know, I'd say a month. And what was you posting? Just crowd work? No, I was posting anything, but I didn't want to show no stand up. Oh, wow, wow, wow. You know what I'm saying? And plus I was like, I was trying to shoot it, and I would shoot good, and then the sound
Starting point is 00:24:25 be fucked up, or the sound be good, and then the shot be fucked up. Then I just committed to it and got the system down at my own club. And then I was like, okay, now I can consistently do stuff. But at the time, there was no apps for captioning or AI. So you had to actually sit there and transcribe. yourself, it took three, four hours to do a two-minute video. And so I was like, I'm exhausted doing this shit. But it paid you, right?
Starting point is 00:24:48 No, all this is free. Oh, yeah. But I could look on the app and see, like, other people exploding where I'm like, okay, if I post my shit, because I already know I'm great at. Yeah. If that, if that work, if that clip I just saw it work, and I know what I'm holding, if I could just post this. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:04 And so it just started to catch. And so it kept catching, it kept catching, it kept catching. And so now we're at 4.5, maybe 4.6 million or something. You think that error is dead? Because I feel like there was a moment where it was like the U and the Matt Rice and the Andrew Schultz's that was just putting their comedy up and it just took off for them. I don't know if it was COVID because everybody was sitting around.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I don't know what it was. But something just caused comedians to take off because of social media. It wasn't COVID for me. I was trying to save my club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That wasn't it. I didn't get to posting until, like, right after I was like, I can finally open and get situated.
Starting point is 00:25:39 No, I don't think that's over. I think people's interest to be entertained is, I would say it's limitless. They say during the Great Depression, when everybody broke, the last thing people spent money on was going to theaters and stuff. Like, if I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out having fun.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So, no, I think it's an insatiable. Doesn't it feel like it? Like, no matter how much content you make, there's somebody to receive it, and they're going to give me more. So, no, I feel like, just be consistent and be good, and be good consistently. And I think people find you. Like people just need to use the internet
Starting point is 00:26:11 as a talent show and that's it. What's that had more impact on your career? The YouTube crowd work stuff or the Netflix special? That's not fair. Because Netflix has only been on since the eighth. Got you. But I know I've had my, because when you do
Starting point is 00:26:29 a special you get to have a conversation at I think 10 days and then another one at 28 days about the numbers. Other than that, you guys know Netflix don't share no numbers like that. Yeah. And so, my first conversation with them it did massive like it's like double platinum
Starting point is 00:26:45 like it did really good on the platform and I'm getting stopped by people in the airports and that was happening before so I'm trying to gauge like so where you see me from and they won't admit like everybody want to be like I've been following these since whiling out I'm like what episode nigga? Just lying. Nobody wants to say that I mean I saw you
Starting point is 00:27:01 last night and I mean I called it super funny like my trademarked comedy club name and brand so that even if you didn't know me you go super funny show me right and it's going crazy right now so if you want to laugh go watch that but
Starting point is 00:27:17 I got to show that it's not just crowdwork I got to show you know 24 years of chops or whatever and so you see it all you see if you watch a stand alone clip you're assuming that that's that but the real epiphany is like wait all that's one show all that strings together all that somehow and stand and he's
Starting point is 00:27:36 doing some singing shit and it like so I wanted just give everything in my toolbox and throw it out there and we caught it and it's risky doing crowd work on a you know that shit was $246,000 and I'm gonna go up and I don't know what I'm gonna say but you get comic viewing they're like
Starting point is 00:27:55 we want your jokes in paragraph form you know every single word you gotta write down your little five minutes and send it in and they approve it but for this court over a quarter million dollars I'm like man just press record and we're gonna see what happens and we caught it but it was risky
Starting point is 00:28:10 and it's risky every time you do it because you're in charge of your set and then you're going a certain cadence and then you slow down and be like so tell me something about yours
Starting point is 00:28:20 and now they all I didn't fuck the whole groove up you know what I'm saying but I went for it and what you see on on Netflix we caught it yeah you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:28:31 how did that come about though how did Netflix end up the place to land so let me I'll answer that for sure because I'm crazy about that answer but then on the other side of the coin is what I can control is the crowdwork joints
Starting point is 00:28:48 I walk out, it was first Wednesdays at my club one or two shows and the challenge was you can only talk about what's in front of you or what you've seen that day and I got to do an hour so I go up with nothing and I come off and so there's 24 of those now and every one is somewhere
Starting point is 00:29:06 around 1.5 to 2.5 million views. And so it's the only place where I explain like the rules that I do when I say. So when I'm in live shows and theaters and I start saying the rule, they're finishing my sentences. So I think the crowdwork joints is what got me to the point that the Netflix special was possible
Starting point is 00:29:26 to then go, boom, on this platform where everybody goes, this is where you put your best shit and I did. So now people are like, oh, I thought he was just the TikTok guy. I'm shocked Netflix did that though I mean because based off watching your specials I'm I'm shocked that they chose to invest in something like that like oh is it gonna be an hour just crowd work even though the crowd work is funny as shit
Starting point is 00:29:48 no they didn't know it was a licensing deal got you they had a licensing deal and I I've done they've had to present my comedy to Netflix or somebody like Netflix or Netflix associated in that sphere whether it was just crowd work whether it was you know I'm saying but then if you're not sure if the crowdwork going to work well, but the person has 20, I think 19 hours of it at that point. You got
Starting point is 00:30:12 19 hours of crowd working and they ain't none of them missing. Like, okay, well, all right. Do you remember when you called that couple seal and Heidi boom? That's Heidi boom. I remember. Sometimes God just give you one. You're like, who. He said, how'd y'all meet? She was like,
Starting point is 00:30:28 well, I was dating somebody he knew and she was dating somebody I knew. And both of them went to jail. I'm like, what the fuck? But it was a brother that looked like seal and a big white girl would, I think, cornrows or something. I was like, look at Seal and Heidi, boom, because she was big. So to answer your question, you basically said, why Netflix? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:47 So it's simple for me, but like, so my mom getting older, and she has an office downstairs at our house in Lacey Washington, and she got to go down these steps to go down in this cold-ass basement and turn on an area heater to get on Netflix, or to get on any streaming platform. But Netflix came on their older. ass smart TV which is dumb now but that was the one
Starting point is 00:31:10 I was like it's a smart TV Netflix built in so she'll watch Netflix and from the comfort of the couch fireplace and all that so for me I was like this is how my mama going to see me and be comfortable oh wow wow so you pray with all the other stuff you know about Netflix and it kind of makes sense
Starting point is 00:31:26 but if they're not going to get me a deal it's like I got to go to wherever but that's why I was like I could just stick it on YouTube with the crowdwork joints where there's now 750,000 people I think that would land well, but let's see if we can get traction with them because just literally, I was on calls with agency. They're like, what platform? I'm like, Netflix. Why? My mama can't watch this shit. That business idea you've been sitting on this new year. Stop waiting for the perfect time. GoDaddy Arrow uses AI to build your website, logo, and marketing in minutes, not months,
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Starting point is 00:37:05 He's going to try to use that to get his Netflix special finally. You know, Gary can't get a Netflix special for nothing. We got a podcast to Gary. No. I don't know that. We got a podcast with Gary got together. It's called Gary and Nate. I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I know Gary had a podcast. Yeah, he got, what, just called Gary Owen. Yeah. And I got my own. Hold on. That's funny and shit. So you got a Netflix special? How did you break the news to Gary?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Right after he told me that they turned him down. Damn. But I didn't mean to say at that. way, though. He was like, hey, man, I'm waiting to find out about Netflix. Now, I had already knew, like, I might be riding them third on mine. And so I just had to sit there. And he told me the whole thing, like, yeah, man, I'm ready for it to get on there, man. I don't know what it's about. And I was like, man, maybe, you know, just keep talking along, brother.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You didn't want to give me your good news yet? I had to wait. I was, I had to wait until, like, the moment of, like, yeah. And I was like, you want to hear something crazy, man? But you can't, you can't go, you can't act stupid, though. You can't tell nobody. You can't say, you can't ask little bit. He was like, what you got? What you got? And I was like, yeah, yeah, Netflix gave me mine. He was like, that's what's up.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I support that. But no, so, so he deserves one. Yeah. Does Gary one? Man, that is so funny. On the podcast, you said Gary, be taking your style. Where are you seen that at? Your podcast?
Starting point is 00:38:24 We talked about it live, so you saw us come to a resolution, and you want to go back to when it was fucked up and start there. If we start from there, there we go to the resolution. I'll precede this with, we're good. You're good now. What happened with Gary taking your stuff? This is the thing. And it's my nature to want to see those around me do well.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And I had to have a full-on epiphany in 2012 to be like, stop help another niggins and help yourself. Because I was putting so much into other people's dreams. I was like, I'm tired. I ain't even do nothing for myself to that. And it's good to have a balance, but I had lost mind just trying to like, I want to see, I'm helping.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I'm helping, like, at a point, I was helping young black Hollywood thrive. And then the other thing that would suck is they would get on, and then everybody got amnesia. Who helped you? And I'm like, here we go, here go to credits. Here I go, here I go. Damn, this nigga doesn't win.
Starting point is 00:39:16 He then popped and forgot you, boy. And that's another reason why I feel some kind of way, because the Netflix credits aren't right. Like, we got to update them. They forgot my right hand. My guy, Trent Cotton is not. He was like, yeah, I know I'm in him. whole thing goes by he ain't in them so shout out the teacob but they are going to fix that you said
Starting point is 00:39:35 they they can they can update yeah so um anyway Gary would come up to the club he did a weekend and the weekend went great and I asked him to do my podcast and we had a great episode and then it just it was just synergized to where it was like yo we should probably do something and then it turned into like the Gary and Nate pod and then the crowdwork joints that I was putting out where I'm putting out once a month or whatever I Like, somebody sent me and was like, yo, Gary got these things. He's doing once a month now.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And I was like, well, wait. Stop laughing, man. They're cool now. I said, wait, Gary did what? So I didn't say nothing. I just sat on, because we were only filming once a month. I have been seeing Gary do more crowd work, man.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I'm not going to be saying. I'm not even joking. I have been doing more crowd work. Yeah, you'll see it. And when they explore it, it just pops up, right? Yeah. Yeah. White people always do that to us, though.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Good for Gary, man. I love that. He's getting traction. because Gary's hella funny he is we love Gary man but this story I'm gonna be honest with you I did not know y'all had a pod I just subscribed to it
Starting point is 00:40:40 y'all only started in November though it's also done we're gonna do one more episode explaining why it's over but that is over we're done what we can't I can't
Starting point is 00:40:52 it's only been 24 episodes and that's hell of it's over now I just subscribed I literally just subscribed Click the same button. So finish the story. Subscribe to opinionated, Charlotte, man. That's my podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So subscribe to opinionated and subscribe to get it always. Make sure you subscribe to get some. And then opinionated is mine. There's enough out here for all of us to get it. Go ahead, finish your story. It's not even a full story. God damn. Envy just be in the fight.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Here's this morning. Invia in the back. going to do shit. You ain't going to do shit. That's what you do with me. He just poked a bear. He is the Instagram. Listen, I rock with Gary. I have no, I have no malice. You know what I'm saying? And so he's good. But
Starting point is 00:41:40 not but. It's just Ann. And so I have noticed that as I'm up in the Pacific Northwest, fighting for ways to be an innovator and stay relevant from way to fuck up there and off the grid that sometimes people come up and they're like, oh, that shit, that's the sauce. I can't protect that. Whether he
Starting point is 00:41:56 comes close to me and does it or stay away from me and does it. If somebody sees an editing style or a wave or I don't know a dress or a way, somebody walks and talks and talking and it's working.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Astro's Jersey. Go ahead. There's nothing you can do. He's from there. Well, he's from Ohio. Ohio. He lived, this is making envy is wild.
Starting point is 00:42:16 He's literally saying every point of contention from when we argued. At the end of the day, we only were recording first Monday. Oh, you said that to him. You said,
Starting point is 00:42:26 you ain't wasn't even wearing baseball jersey. You told me. That's what you said, too. Yeah, and then Gary was like, nigga, look at me at my wedding party. He said, nigga, look at me. Now, you know, God damn well.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Now, you're going to be up here in like a week. No, Gary always come up here, by the way. Gary's solid. Nothing to be saying, nigga, and all that. Anybody that's wondering where I'm mad on it, he's good, he good, okay? Now. But I just not doing the podcast no more, but y'all good.
Starting point is 00:42:53 No, I can't. It's because we do first. We do first monies, and so he'll come up and do the club and the door deal is what makes it worth coming up then we record one or two or three or four episodes in one day or two and then two and it'd be my only two days off for maybe a 14 stretch of road gigs I'm like Gary I can't I can't do it so I'm doing a I'm doing a comedy festival the 11th through the 17th because my birthday is the 14th in August and so he's going to come up and he's going to do Monday the 11th and then we're going to do one more episode just as playing like
Starting point is 00:43:25 and we're just busy yeah where's your comedy festival is in your Your hometown? Yeah, yes, in Tacoma. Okay. Yeah, so we got Tony Rock anchoring the weekend. Amazing. So Gary will do the Monday. Then I'm going to do a Nate Jackson presents Monday.
Starting point is 00:43:37 It's one of my concepts where it's like I'm hosting for 35, 40 minutes and then all the acts just come out the door. You don't know who's on stage. No. Kind of like chocolate Sunday. You know who on the show. Yeah. This makes so much sense because I was listening to Gary's pod like last week and I was wondering why he was just going in on people who do crowd work. He was like, people who do crowdwork are lazy.
Starting point is 00:43:57 and they don't really know how to write. You said that? Gary, on his pod. That sound made up. That sounds made up. Oh, yeah, I did make it up. It's true. Hey, yo, you're glad you seen it.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I'm glad you seen through it. I'm so glad you seen it. I did make that up. I made that up. Because here's why it's made up. Because if you do crowdwork or attempt to do crowdwork and you have good moments and you string them together,
Starting point is 00:44:20 you already know you're using traditional stand-up structure, but you're plugging the information you got off the people into that. So we're writing live and on the spot And I think that what's overlooked is The phenomena of why people are like Why crowdwork? Because you're in the crowd
Starting point is 00:44:38 And you're hearing the response Your brain is processing the same information And you're like, what would I say? What was he going to say? And every time the person you like that does it Finds an angle Every like that's why It's actually funnier It actually shows that that person is funnier
Starting point is 00:44:54 Because it's not something that he actually pre-wrote It's like in the spot, on the moment. Yeah, man. Put two quotes in front and behind that. And then let's run with that one. Because there is a school of thought that's like, oh, they're not working hard. Or they're not, they're just, they don't have jokes.
Starting point is 00:45:11 So that's why they don't like, okay. One, follow me then. Two, try it. Let me see what you're doing. And I'd be like, no, I see why you think it's lazy. But I put the work out. I said I had a room every Thursday night. Can't no young comic hold it down as a host every third.
Starting point is 00:45:26 there's no pen in the world that can keep up with that amount of monologues. So I just started going up with nothing and fucking with people and it was not good. And it got good. What happens if there's nothing that inspires you from the crowd? I say that. I talk about how there's nothing. How what?
Starting point is 00:45:42 Guess who character? Nothing to talk about slow-ass answer. Having an as crowd is this. There's funny even in the lack of it too. You know what I'm saying? I seen somebody get roasted that had nothing wrong with them. Somebody was like, nigga, you look easy to draw.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I saw that online. I saw that, yeah, I seen you that one. I was like, what do you don't say when the person's face is to magic? They're like, you look easy to draw. I was like, see, that's genius. Yeah. So, no, there's plenty of stuff to talk about.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And like I said, I can talk about anything I saw since I woke up or what's in front of me. So if I got to start with whatever, like I would have been, I went on stage and be like, y'all see Coldplay? Y'all see the dude get caught? I can talk about that at the crowdwork joint. And now it's like, who in here cheat? Now we got some segues to get through.
Starting point is 00:46:25 You know what I mean? But, like, it's almost a gift when you get something. You're like, oh, okay, let's cook with this, right? And I like to find a few so that I can do callbacks and have it all come together and gel together. So at the end, you're like, that wasn't just, that was an experience. That wasn't just a couple of moments.
Starting point is 00:46:43 You ever had somebody roast you back and actually be good, like a nutty professor when, when, uh, who's sucking, whose titty's over here? Yes. Remember when Eddie went off on, um, when Dave Chappelle was playing the comedian. Uh-huh. And he came back as,
Starting point is 00:46:56 Buddy love. And he went nuts. He went crazy. Yeah. No, I've never had nothing that crazy happen. But I've had, I had a guy, but here's the thing. A lot of times, the person that wants to do that, they're not on the cadence of the show. They're waiting for you to take a breath or like giving you a segue between two things to yell out and try to fuck the thing.
Starting point is 00:47:16 But I ain't had it happen yet. Well, a long time ago on the Thursday night or whatever, somebody was like, man, I got, and I'm like, come up here and in. And this just went back and forth, back and back. and forth, back and forth, and I lost. And I was like, congratulations. Wow. Was it a comedian? Or was you just a... No, random guy. He beat me because he was like, he said, this is what he said, he said, your mama's pussy so deep. I went down on her and my ears popped. Dang. And that's what I said.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And I didn't have a... I was like, yep, nigga that. That's the winner. Shit. You ever had anybody get mad, like, try to fight? No. Because, like, to be honest with you, like, I'd say like 90% of it is reading in body language, you kind of can look. look at who's with this. And now, now I don't, I should never have to deal with it because the front five to seven rows of my show is sold online for more, the payment, and it's called the row zone. So they literally, it's like the splash zone.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Like you only do that if you want to get splashed, like how Gallagher would hit the watermelon's in. So if you're in the row zone, I don't want to hear shit. Like, it is. They'd be mad if I don't get, man, this is our second time coming. You ain't good at us either time. Man, come again, bro. I'll get you.
Starting point is 00:48:25 You know what I'm saying? So in general, no, not now. But if I'm just doing a show that's not mine or gigging or something, it's about like, all right, who's with it? Generally, eye contact, smiling, or at least looking, you know, definitely not big enough that I'm like, that would be a good, that'd be a good fight. Like, I'm not looking for, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:48:44 I'm not roasting somebody that I've got to tussle with six minutes and we don't know who won. Shit, Big Mac was big as hell. And he said, yeah, I do security, bro. Big as hell. I do security. Right, big as hell. Why you got to put bro on the end?
Starting point is 00:48:56 I feel you run away from him skipping, nigga. I'm not even kidding me. It's hard with pop. Try to catch me. No, that's a belly shot. We're out of there.
Starting point is 00:49:05 What is this paper spin off? I mean, the, spin off to the office. This shit is good. These niggas are really good. Do you guys just sit up here and be like,
Starting point is 00:49:15 man, we good at this shit? Do you know you're the best? I don't know. You can work. You're doing it for a while. No, you nigs are good.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I didn't think that was in your thing. I don't know. Yeah. So the office is coming back. Yeah. It's called the paper. I wouldn't necessarily call it a spin-off because it's in the same universe, the same world.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Some of the characters are the same. And so there is a serious NDA around what we can say and cannot say, but it comes back on September 4th, and this shit is going to be hilarious. I am very, very proud of you for doing that. You are that type of witty-ass comedian that would totally be great in the office or the office universe.
Starting point is 00:49:52 So that's one of my favorite shows. Modern Family, the Office. and like I love that you are in that pocket of wit and that's that feels good to me to see that you're going to be doing that working in a man thank you and I and I'm I'm just thankful yeah but I'm in I'm in I think I'm in more episodes than I'm not and more than whileing up yes
Starting point is 00:50:12 because Greg Daniels can see your boy so um yes and there's and once you and a sitcom like that there's a lot less competition you know I mean like you you're the person you're in the And this is when you get to go do your thing. While now, it's 24 people waiting to get one spot. Yeah. Literally.
Starting point is 00:50:33 You're going to get the rappers. You're going to get the contractor guys. Then you got the celebrity. Oh, they brought their little sister with them. Then, so there's two spots. And there's 24 people waiting to get tapped to be against each other on them. You'd be like, man, I don't know if I'm going to get an episode. You can see it.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And then here come Michael Blackson. Wasn't even on the damn show. What's up about Osaka? And he ended because he's Nick Boy. You don't get no burn. Shout out the mic, but that's the gist. That's how you get four. That's how I go.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Then you go out and put the cape on somebody because they asked you to. We only shoot two weeks. All of them episodes, two weeks. So I'm in trouble for three days. That's devastating. But the beauty is when you blow up, like the way you're blowing up now, like they'll invite you back and act like you got you start there. And I'll be like, man, I'm so thankful for this.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Shout out to 9-11. But the paper is not a reboot, though. It's a spinoff. I mean, I don't know. the right word is. He said, he can't talk about it. I mean, that part is in the press.
Starting point is 00:51:30 But I'm really, I don't know what the word is for like, this was also happening, but now we'll show you this other place. Just imagine the production company that was in the office, you know, with all the zooming in and all that.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Just imagine they went across the street to another address or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of, I don't, I don't know. Because usually a spin-off, it takes one character and it follows them. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:56 and this ain't that. This isn't family matters, and then we just follow Urkel. No, this is like, there's characters from the other one in this one. It's a beautiful. Greg Daniels did it again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Then the showrunners and that whole team, like I was in awe just like, good, some of the stuff they found the idiosyncrasies of how funny something simple could be. And the fact that they were malleable enough to get it,
Starting point is 00:52:21 I'm some big words. Anyway, some of the stuff that was, that they made funny that they took the time and budget to spend time like how to just move like flip a lever flipping a lever wasn't just flip it like there's a way to pick these glasses up and it's funny yeah there's and they went through every way like so you want to pick these glasses up you want to pick these glasses up
Starting point is 00:52:45 like they I'm talking about every way to inflect your voice and they took the time and be like do it again but this time do do it again but do this time and I was like I did not know that this show was like this fine tooth like they take every moment and it's every moment is I guess you know manicured to be as funny as it can be even though
Starting point is 00:53:04 it's as dry but it's hilarious it's still edgy yes good you can't you gotta be edgy because the office man they had episodes that can't come back out right now because you know what I mean but I love the show
Starting point is 00:53:19 I love it man and you stream as well sometimes you know as much as I can you know what I'm saying but god damn you you don't realize how much shit you don't want to show until you're showing it I'm saying I walk past some mail
Starting point is 00:53:34 on the counter and somebody was like got your address nigga I'm like yeah what because they'll pause it zoom in like I'm not ready stay dead ass I was going to my office and there's a billboard outside and somebody was like I know where that billboard is
Starting point is 00:53:50 I'm like man fuck so there's so many like camera down then you just want to talk to somebody they see the mic on you like oh you marked up yeah not right now I'm we good right now so there's so it's like I have to like be like okay from this time to this time I'm going to stream I thought it was just going to be like just put the camera on and let's go
Starting point is 00:54:06 yeah but some of your life you don't want to you know what I'm saying you don't want to show a lot of your life really I think you know plus it's a different kind of on because I'm realizing when you go live it's a lot of fucking reading yeah people don't really like you're reading the equivalent of like nine Harry Potter chapters just to interact with your chat.
Starting point is 00:54:27 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I can do it, but it's a thing I have to flip. Now, last week I went to Twitch headquarters in San Francisco, and I was like, what are we doing? What you want to do? Because there's an entire industry of comedy where people are living big lives and they're perfect for live streaming,
Starting point is 00:54:44 but can we work? Yeah. And that app is, that app is, that's a beautiful app, but that shit is, the entry level on that is so high. What do you mean? It's expensive. To get on Instagram, you need a phone, which you already have. If you want to be a creator on Twitter, you've got to have, like, several different apps,
Starting point is 00:55:03 which have their own learning curve, where there's something for overlay, something for alert, something for the chat. Then you've got to have a setup. Like, there's a lot. Like, let's say you just want to stream your, like, IRL from a phone. Now you've got to go buy Samsung Galaxy 25. Then things are like $11.00. Then you've got to get two SIM cards. Like, the entry level is expensive.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Like a whole production. Even if it's not, it's just expensive. Then let's say you go out and there's a lot of, like you go maybe a Yankees game, like I'm going to stream or something if they let you. But somewhere where it's high populated, maybe a parade or something, everybody on the cell tower, your signal dropping, now your feet is cutting. So if you get tired of that, the next step up from the phone is called a live-view solo pro. That backpack I'll be seeing them kids with?
Starting point is 00:55:53 So, no, yeah, yeah, there's a backpack or like a Wi-Fi in his back or something. Yeah, so there's like two or three modems or something. That shit is like $6,000. So you're telling me just to stay on the app and stay, like that, who got that? What young creator just got $6,000 sitting right there? So then the next step up is a $30,000 back. I see like DDG and all them, then backpacks are $30,000. Oh, that's the backpack.
Starting point is 00:56:19 That, yeah, if it's blue or something, or hot green, I think. That bag is $30,000. So it's a real investment. You make it a real investment. Not even, but you, does it pay? Yeah, if you probably, yeah. By how long? Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:33 It pays. By how long do you have to be on those sites in order to make the money? No, you get, you go, as soon as you go partner. I made partner in four days. Hmm. And if you got a plan. You just, well, there's a thing like, you know, it says it's just like any other monetization. They're like, you need this many viewers, this many hours or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:51 But you can also just send an email and be like, here's, here's my numbers on other platforms. And they'd be like, oh, shit. Gotcha. So you're monetized right away, which gives you access to a certain percentage of your advertising and a certain percentage of your subs. And the subs is why that's why it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah. You want to know the sauce? I dig you the sauce. Yeah. And this is how it happens. I like to share and not gate. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Right? So that's why I said, if somebody's going to take something I'm doing and do it, I didn't make it that hard to get it Yeah So I'll ask you first So that you understand The power of it
Starting point is 00:57:31 Right So in my opinion I think the IRL clips Are the highest algorithm clips On social media right now It seems like it yeah It ain't sketches It used to be sketches
Starting point is 00:57:40 Now it's like So like What do you remember From the BET Awards this year? I know Exactly That's a clip Right
Starting point is 00:57:51 What do you remember from Shane Gillis at the Espe's. His monologue, which is a clip. So, like, Joe Rogan's clip page is almost six times bigger than the full episode page. Right? Nobody's going to sit through three hours
Starting point is 00:58:06 and they just watch the clip. And what makes Twitch so genius is that anybody watching your stream has, there's a button on it that says clip. Anyone, any viewer can make a 60-second clip. Now, that could be bad if you're doing something like, got your ass. It'd be them headlines, though.
Starting point is 00:58:21 They make the headlines don't be having nothing to do with the video. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you got your headlines and you watch the video, I'm like, that didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:58:27 You didn't say that. Yeah. I saw some of there were like, somebody curves Christian on. And I watched it and I was like, hey, she didn't even happen. She was just having fun. What the fun?
Starting point is 00:58:34 But if you know that that's what it is, then now, why not, why not be strategic then? Yeah. You don't got eight hours to stream. You got two hours. So in that two hours, I'm going to go here.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I'm going to talk to my brother, my son, And then you can overproduce it where you're like, somebody going to kick in the door and it's going down. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. But you want the clips. Because once you get the clip, that goes YouTube, Facebook, Instagram,
Starting point is 00:59:02 it goes every other platform. And so then you build your audience and then they're on, and they subscribe or just coming on. They watch ads. They have no choice and you get paid. And then from your station in the game, you don't, you're not going to get that basic percentage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 You're like, I'm trying to make. What are you talking about? Love IRL, God damn it. I'm ready. Are you ready? Needed that, Nate, yes. Let's do it. Yeah, get your money.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Well, check out. I want to ask one more question. What do you want new fans who see you for the first time on Netflix to walk away thinking? I got a new top five. Because for like 20 years, everybody says the same five names in rotation. And I think that it's time that we shake that up a little bit. Basketball got new stars. I'm not saying there's not a place for other people, and we can all eat.
Starting point is 00:59:52 but let's work together. Yeah. Do you what I'm saying? And maybe it's a challenge, but I would like to see some of the OG black comics who've made a lot of money in the game, reach back and create opportunities for the rest of the game. There's Uptown, I guess, is closing.
Starting point is 01:00:14 It's not Black-owned, but it was Black-Rand. And so now I think there are three Black-owned clubs in America. I'm the biggest at 270 seats I think when I look around on your wall and see all the successful African Americans and every dollar that got pulled down that it makes no sense that we don't have more brick and mortars to do the craft we built
Starting point is 01:00:34 why doesn't Martin have Wanda's Yeah Why doesn't, you know what I'm saying? Why isn't there a Kevin Hart comedy club? Yeah. God damn, you do comedy. Make some money off the drinks for it. You got a liquor.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Sell only that in your club. Yeah. But there should be. And if that's not it, then let's just get with the people who open business is left and right and then say, look, here you use my name, my likeness, and I want some ownership, whatever. And then, but there should be. That makes sense. Joe Rogan got the comedy club in Austin now.
Starting point is 01:01:06 They're the mothership. Yeah, I believe Dave is building one. Dave has his now. Yeah, he has one. Yeah, he has one. It's open. It's open. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And so there may be four. But that's, if you think about all of the money. Every time you, like, who's been in the top three in comedy since, I mean, 1970? The majority of the top three, top gross earning, I'm not even talking about whether you like them or not. I'm talking about the highest grossing act of the year was black. Whether it was Richard Pryor, Red Fox, or Cat, or Mike Epps, or Kevin Hart, or Martin, or like, and if it wasn't one, it was an entity, like, Kings of Comedy. or now 85 stop, like, why, let's get the 85 comedy clubs. Let's get, like, let's expand and grow our industry
Starting point is 01:01:57 because the people want to come to shows. And then you control the buck, you control the dollar. There's no more, you end up getting ripped off or they don't treat you right because now you know how to be treated. You know what I'm saying? And I want us to get it right too, because I have done other black-owned clubs and been like, come on, y'all. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I don't really, I don't play like that. We run a good show, but it's a lot to juggle the career and the club and make sure that it's still black excellence, but my team is thorough. So we hold it down. And if it works in one place, it should, in theory, work in another place. So I think that if I could leave something with the entertainers that are watching, man, what's up? Open something.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Open something. Let's get some comedy back on regular TV. Let's make comedy very easy to consume again. Love that. When I was a kid, you could go home. and Comic View was on, and Comedy Central had specials. And, like, now you can't find no stand-up unless you are like, I got, let me put it on. I got to find it.
Starting point is 01:02:55 You know what I'm saying? So we need to get to a place where the deaf jams and the comedy, like, it feels like that again. Yeah. So if there's something I can leave with the people, I don't know, man, just laugh. Live your life to the fullest, you know, and you deserve, you deserve to laugh. So do it. Yeah, yeah. Nate Jackson, tell them what to follow you, brother.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Nate Jacksoncomedy.com or at Mr. Nate Jackson on the gram or name. Nate Jackson Comedy on TikTok. Just tap in. Nate Jacksoncom.com is where you can see everything. I'm on, I'm ending the Super Funny World Tour here in the next couple of dates, and the big dog tour starts right after that. International.
Starting point is 01:03:33 We got Australia. It's crazy. Get some tickets while there's any seats left. It's like that. Congratulations, brother. As much success to you, man, to keep growing. By then you say you was doing shows and movies and stuff, casting stuff?
Starting point is 01:03:46 You want to act as something? Yeah, for sure. I got some shit. All right, cool. Yeah, I got some shit. Because, like, I'm really, really good. I almost forgot the movie. I'm tripping.
Starting point is 01:03:55 So there's a movie with Seth Rogen, Kiki Palmer, Kiannu Reeves, and it's Aziz Ansari's directorial debut that comes out in October, and it's called Good Fortune, and I'm in that. Damn. So, yeah. No, I got stuff. Okay. I just bought this red camera.
Starting point is 01:04:09 We're about to go up. Perry, you bought the Red. You can't tell me nothing. Period. Can't tell me nothing. Carry it. Check out Super Funny on Netflix now. Now, Nate Jackson, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us, brother.
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