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The Breakfast Club.
Morning, everybody.
It's DJ NV, Jess Hilarious.
Shalameen to Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club.
We got some special guests in the building.
My girls!
Lex P. Andrea Nicole.
Hi.
What's up, guys?
We're back.
We're back again.
I know.
How are you feeling?
Great.
Good.
You feel really good.
Yeah.
Happy to be here.
Happy to see y'all.
Yes, it's been too long.
Y'all got the new show, Travel Queen.
First of all, I'm happy to see y'all just evolving.
Paul Mines' Podcast is a hit.
Poor Mind's podcast evolving.
Now, y'all got the Travel Queen's TV show on BET.
It's a docu-series.
How'd that come about?
Also, the production company Cocoa Butter, they actually reached out to us because they wanted us to audition for it.
Because they had us and, like, I think, some other, maybe like, two or three other friend groups in mine.
So we auditioned for it.
They loved us.
and then we got it
and we started filming
maybe like a month after
and then we filmed
the whole show
into weed
Cocoa butt
I don't know
that's a black woman
on for that's
no
it's actually not
it's right
white people
it's a white guy
of black
eating in town
shout out to eat in town
they're smart
yeah
so what is
travel queens
about where y'all going
what y'all doing
so we went to four
different cities
we went to
Carter Hena
Mexico City
Key West and Charleston
So it's basically really showing
like young black millennials,
Gen Ziers, especially women,
how to travel, where to go eat,
where to find other black people when you travel,
just how to be safe and have a good time.
I think right now in media,
I don't say right now,
but I feel like a lot of stuff that we're seeing
in the media with black women
who fight in, throwing drinks in people's face.
So I really think it's refreshing to see
two black women who are really friends
just having good, innocent fun.
We're not talking about men and dating and gender war.
and all this stuff.
It's just good, fun.
What about the ladies that are watching it?
Like, well, how am I going to be able to fly myself out?
Don't start.
I'm for bad.
We have graduated from that.
But you're flying y'all on this show.
But actually, B.E.T.
And Cocoa.
That's right.
But I will say, so a lot of the stuff, too, is like, it's budget friendly.
I mean, we went to Charleston.
You know what I'm saying?
You can do a road trip.
We went to Key West.
So you can drive to Key West.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't have to necessarily fly.
It's not like we're doing extremely expensive things, to be honest.
So I think if you budget, you know, it's not like we're doing luxurious things
and going to the Maldives and, you know, staying at the four seasons.
It's very budget-friendly stuff.
Yeah, and I think that was the point of the show.
They wanted to make everybody feel like, okay, I can come here
and I don't have to spend a lot of money to have a good time.
So if a guy was flying y'all out, you'd still want to go to those destinations?
Yeah, but I probably would have needed something different.
I ain't going on.
Charleston is beautiful, though.
I mean, Charleston is beautiful, but I'm like this.
Key West is one of them little ducked off.
I remember I didn't take it to Key West before.
Really?
I know.
You got to look at the Key West.
I wasn't flew out by cocoa butter.
But that usually the older gentleman fly you out.
Yes.
It's a very, like, quiet town.
You can definitely sneak off there with a old man.
I had never been to Keywitz before.
That was my first time.
It was, you know, it was cool.
Water blue.
The water was blue.
That's what little, little took you.
Little, little, because they're going to be confused.
So I just told them that when the older guys perform fellatio,
they don't really know.
Congolingus.
The what?
Congolingus.
The conglangangus.
Conalingus.
When they're doing that, they say,
leal,
because they don't have teeth anymore.
You know, they're trying to figure out where it is,
especially the ones with glasses.
You know, when they slip down on the nose and they say,
Lidoletle.
They'd be doing it with a glass.
I like that.
I feel like it's going to get a little foggy from my body.
Just a little little bit.
I like that.
I don't need me a little litre little.
Little little little.
Yes.
You're fine to the next time you'll go.
The four cities y'all went to, which one did you like the best and why?
Mexico City.
I know it.
Because it was just so nice.
I feel like it's so many black expats that are moving there from the United States.
So it's a lot of black people out there.
We went to an R&B night while we were out there.
We went to a black vegan restaurant.
it's just it reminded me a lot of the United States
but just in Mexico City
I feel like out of everywhere that we went
that was my favorite place
I'm not gonna lie I keep saying that Charleston
surprised me too like
I've never been to Charleston
and I have a really close friend of mine that lives
out there and he's been trying to get me
to come out there forever and I was like
what isn't Charleston like isn't that a dance
like I was like I'm not doing out of this
Charleston you know isn't that the dance
it's not okay we did
but I was so surprised like people
be taking the nice boats out.
The food is good. I had a
ball in Charleston. I'm actually planning
a trip to go back like
for a weekend. It is beautiful.
Yeah. Mexico City is nice too, though. It is.
It is. It is. A lot of people moving there yet.
It is. My husband's from there.
Really? Yeah. I know that's why husband, period.
Mexico. I knew that already.
Okay.
Do you all be trying it?
Do y'all move like to travel already?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. And we already
traveled together a lot anyway, so
we felt like that's why it was the perfect show for it.
Don't get tired of each other at all, but like, you know what?
You go your way, I'll go my way.
Absolutely.
I was going to say no.
She was going to say no.
I love his job.
We're neighbors.
We literally live in Atlanta.
I live in a building right here, and her building
is right here.
And the unit that I used to live in, she could see
my apartment from the pool, so she would be
like waving at me from the pool.
You got to watch her.
No, she did.
I followed her.
I followed her.
I did.
Because they started building
and building
ourselves in the moon
right next door
to my sweetie poo.
See, I love that.
I would love it in my best thing.
Y'all would get tired.
I'd be like,
I'm going to wear some sugar.
You know what's crazy?
I think when we were younger
and the show first started,
we didn't have any direction.
We didn't know what we wanted to do.
We're going through growing pains,
but now it's like,
she's 34, I'm 35.
We're grown women.
Yeah.
We don't have anything to fight about.
And honestly,
I think it's so crazy
when people have a podcast
and they make so much money
and they be arguing.
We got to be mad about.
You know, we have so much fun.
Like, to be able to travel the world
with your best friend and have a business,
it's great. It's fun.
How is it when y'all get in relationships, though?
Ooh.
I feel like we do a really good job
of still keeping the balance of our friendship
and still being in a relationship.
Like, we always find the time to hang
with each other to go to dinner,
to talk on the phone.
As crazy as it is, because the podcast
we do talk about dating a lot,
we are really not male-centered women
and a lot of people think that
because we talk about dating so much on the show
but we really not like we
like to be like last year we went to Turks
for her birthday we wasn't inviting them
we went to Miami one year for my birthday
like we just go on trips by ourselves
we're not like oh our boyfriends have to come
or if we go to dinner it's not like oh
bring your man it's none of that
we have a good balance for sure so y'all still
booed up you know
you know you know you know
you know they're watching right now
like, damn.
Crazy.
Damn.
It's in a rocky place.
We're going to see what happened.
It's complicated.
Both are you.
Yeah, which is crazy, right?
Because I feel like it happened simultaneously.
Like, at the same time for both of us,
we started kind of going through a transition and a breakup at the same time.
But it's not like in the bad space.
No, yeah, it's not.
Like, we're cool.
It's cool.
We're figuring it out type situation.
Y'all talk each other up.
Like, girl, leave him.
All right, I'm going to leave him if you leave him.
Or if you leave him.
No.
You know what's crazy?
No, I'm really like that friend
where when she calls me and she talks to me about
what's going on in her relationship and stuff,
I'm just always like, okay, girl,
well, you know, do what you want to do.
I try to be supportive of what she want to do.
As long as it's not a physically violent situation
or something that you need to leave
that abusive or anything like that,
I try to be supportive of my friends
because I get it.
When you love somebody, you want to stay with your man,
it's hard all here.
Y'all are all married.
Y'all got your family.
I was going to say, we are not all men.
no
you are all right
wait
she's like
you're all men
I don't know
I don't know
I'm in a long time
I don't know
I swear
I was being
y'all
you're right
and I don't know why I said it
you were just in love
last year Lex
I still am in love
I'm very much in love
like I said
it's just a situation
we're figuring it out
I don't
you know
but I think
we're both so
focused on our careers
right now
and I know it sounds
so cliche
but I'm just a person
he's an amazing
guy, if we're meant to be together, we're
going to be together. So I'm just not putting
pressure on it. You know what I mean? So
it's cool. We're going to figure it out, you know.
What have you all learned about yourselves
from doing the podcast? How long have you been doing the podcast
first of all? Five years now, right? No longer than that.
We started doing poor minds when I was like
27. So, yeah, seven years. Yeah, seven years now.
Okay, so y'all at that, see,
people don't realize this is at the point,
this is the time where podcasts really started to take off.
Around your seventh, favorite year. Everybody thinks it's just
instant success. Yeah. Around your seven, favorite,
So what have y'all learned about yourselves?
For me, I would say transparency and vulnerability is healing.
When I first started doing the show,
I think that I always have kind of had more of a closed-off personality.
I've always been a little bit more private than, like,
she's always been like an open book on the show.
And I never used to want to talk about things that I was going through
because I felt like it was a sign of weakness.
And I've just always had this thing where I don't want people to look at me like,
you know, I'm weak or whatever.
So I think that now I'm in a space where I enjoy telling my story.
I enjoy telling people the things that I'm going through
because I feel like it can help other people get through similar things.
Or, you know, just being transparent to me is just very important at this point in my life
because I don't know.
I just want to get emotional.
I don't want to get emotional a little bit.
But like I lost my dad and it was something that was, thank you.
It was something that was really, really hard.
for me to talk about on the show, but I wish that back then I had this same mindset because
I feel like I was dealing with so much by myself. And when I started talking about it on the
show, it was just so many people in such an outpouring of love, people saying I've been through
the same thing. I can understand where you're coming from. So that's what I've learned over the
years about myself. I think that I really enjoy now telling people what I'm going through instead
of just feeling like I have to go through everything by myself. What about you left? I think with me,
I am such like a loud personality
and I think a lot of times I would try to hide that from people
and I just embrace who I am like I'm not the sexy girl
that's doing all this like I'm a tomboy
I like to be loud have fun so I really got confidence about myself
because I'm like this is who I am
I think for when I first started like being on social media
I was like doing the bikini pigs and posing by the pool
and I'm like girl this is not you at all
So I've really been able to embrace myself and be like, you know what?
You'd allow a home girl, and that's okay.
Like, you don't have to fit into this box of what you think that a woman is supposed to be.
Because people always love to say, because I know you hear this a lot.
They'd be like, oh, funny women aren't pretty or you have to either you funny or you're pretty.
You can't be both.
You know what I'm saying?
So I feel like I used to try to lean into being the pretty girl.
And then I would try to lean to be the funny girl.
And I'm like, you know what?
I don't have to be in anybody's box.
You know what I'm saying?
But you always been.
sexy, you just don't give
off sex. Like, you say, like, you're just not
prissy. You're just... Yeah, well, we talked
about this on the show. There's a difference
between, like, having sex appeal
and, like, being attractive. Like, Drea just
is, like, sexy. Yeah. You know what I said?
She was walking around. She's like, hey, oh.
Yeah. You know?
You just that's how she is.
You can have both, though. Yeah, you know, like,
like I said, I just think, like, being sex...
That's just not my life. Yeah.
It is really much.
Because sex appeal is something that's just from the inside.
I feel like...
Yes. And I just think, like...
Yes, and I just think, like, that's not a part of my personality, but that's okay.
It's not, I'm not saying I'm unattractive.
I'm a baddie, period, you feel me?
You know what I'm saying?
So I just think that I've been more comfortable, like, being in my skin and who I am, for
sure.
Growing out loud is hard.
Yes.
You know, and that's what y'all have been doing the last seven years on that podcast.
Literally.
Like, going through everything, like she said, we, she lost her dad, I lost my mom, going
through breakups, and then it's like, you know, we'd be like, oh, we're in love.
And then the next month, we talk.
about a different dude and they're like oh my god you're like y'all got a new dude already and they're doing
the same thing you're doing the same thing just nobody's right they tune in support but nobody cares
it's about you you know and people not in your business so i think yeah going through relationships
and growing pains and i've always been honest about my financial status too because i always say
when i moved to Atlanta i had three dollars because i 100% did like i wasn't lying so i think it's
important to be transparent especially as a black woman in this
industry. I feel like we always shot a high what we're making
because I'm like, oh, this company signed up
for your ass, how much they're paying you? Because this is how much
they paying us. Let's make sure that they're not, you know what I'm
saying? So I think that
with the platform that we have,
it's like, yeah, we've grown in front of the camera, but
like she said, being open and vulnerable has helped
us a thousand percent. For sure.
What have you all learned about yourself from doing the TV
show? Honestly,
I feel like, everybody always asked that
because they're like, oh my gosh, how was it? It was
two weeks, but I'm like, I don't know, nothing.
I guess.
To be honest.
Well, I mean, because
it's crazy because I thought it was going to feel
so different, but it felt so
natural. Like, I feel like we made
for TV a little bit because
it felt so natural. It kind of felt like,
and maybe because we did it together and we're best
friends and we already have that chemistry
and camaraderie and stuff.
That's a good word. Thank you.
That's a good word. Thank you.
That's camaraderie.
So it just felt like
I'm doing this show with my home girl
and the cameras just happened to be here.
How many bags did y'all pack?
Two, right?
No, we had that one, we had one big suitcase and like our totes and stuff.
And then a carry-on.
Yeah.
So what we did, though, is so we had the bags from Amazon that you vacuumed.
So what we did is we had each bag for each city.
So I had like my three outfits for Columbia and my vacuum bag.
Then I didn't have to open that bag no more.
Then when we went to Charleston, I had my bag for Charleston.
So it wasn't that bad, but I will say shout out to.
the producers at BT, James Knox, and the Cocoa Butter family
because they really let us be ourselves.
They did it.
Like they were literally like press record, y'all just do y'all.
And that's another thing I was worried about.
I was like, how are they going to edit this and make us look?
But it's definitely given Lex P. and Dre and Nicole.
It's us in real life.
How was it?
You know what?
It was really fun.
It was.
I had a good time.
So that was my second time going to Columbia.
My first time going to Cardiana because the first.
Columbia, the country.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Good cocaine.
Okay.
Now how you know.
You said that to me in my DM, so you're seeing I was in Columbia.
No, you're out of line.
You are crazy.
They're pure white.
I am weak.
So, yeah, but I mean, funny enough, I think that's what people think of, though.
When you think of going to Columbia, you think of the cartel and stuff.
Because, like I said, I went to Medelline a few years ago to get my teeth done.
And I was scared to leave from the area where my hotel was and where my doctor was.
I mean, I was just nervous to travel around because that's what you hear.
about Columbia so when we went to
Cardiana I had a really really good time
and then especially with us going to Palinca
which is the first free black city in the
Americas it was just so you know
that it's Afro Latinos in a lot of
these countries but when I say
when we were in Palinca we felt like we were somewhere
in Ghana in Nigeria like these people
look like our cousins our family
members it was just amazing being there
and being submerged in the culture
why do you go away to Columbia to get your teeth on
because it was Shaper
I think here was like 30,000
and I, you know, I'm getting a little money bud
back then I was trying to save the little coin.
When people get them done here, they just all the same size
like the extra largest, like nobody ever
acts for the mediums or, you know, the cheeklet teeth.
They got the front, they get front teeth for the whole row.
The whole thing's like, how all your teeth the same size.
When they get the top done and don't get the bottom done.
And it's like, come on.
They need that corner.
You got to get the texture.
Like, I think that's why my teeth look so natural
because he made like the texture in my teeth or whatever.
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Atlanta.
What do you mean?
Because Atlanta, you know, they see beautiful women.
But sometimes they might not see that in Colombia like Americans.
God damn.
DJ NV says Colombia got ugly women.
That's the headline.
DJ NB says all women in Colombia are busted.
You know what?
I feel like...
Usually when you go out the country and they see American women,
they treat American women differently because they don't.
don't usually see American women like that.
Yeah, so that's what I'm not gonna lie.
I feel like whenever we go anywhere,
I really can't tell the difference
because I feel like everywhere we go,
we kind of draw attention, I know that sounds bad,
but it's like everywhere we go,
we're used to people like,
oh my God, I know y'all from the pod,
or oh my God, are saying, hey.
And then when we were in Columbia,
it's a little different because we had cameras around us.
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when you said they were scared of how they were
going to edit y'all and make y'all look
were y'all allowed to be in the room
during the editing process or you just
like the, y'all trusted them and you just like the way
they ended up editing the episodes yeah
we didn't know anything girl we've seen
everything when everybody else seen
and we didn't know how they were going to edit in
we was on the plane last night watching the
episode for the first time.
So are y'all nervous for every episode that come about like, you know what?
Well, I'm not nervous now.
I was nervous of how my body was going to look because I just lost 30 pounds, okay?
Thank you.
Okay.
So I, when we shot, I weighed like 205.
Okay.
So I was so nervous.
I kept saying, oh my gosh, I hope.
Because I have like a little belly on me.
So whenever I gain weight, like people always tend to think I'm pregnant.
They be like, let's pregnant.
I'm like, oh my God, can I just have a little shot of tequila?
I had a little, you know,
enchilada, you know what I'm saying?
So I was really more so nervous about my body
after I saw the first episode, but I was like,
okay, body tea.
How did you lose the 30?
A trip to Columbia?
A pure Coke?
Or what was it?
You said what?
What did she lose the 30 back?
Oh, no, honestly, I used to be a girl.
I used to do everything under the sun.
You know, the first time I went to Columbia,
it was for my BBL.
So y'all talking about, y'all know Columbia for the Coke.
I know Columbia for them good doctors.
But I just did it natural this time.
I was doing a lot of cardio, eating healthy.
You know, I feel like, and I feel better now.
I think I'm getting older and I'm just all the,
I'm not dissing people who do take other routes,
but I just had to do it for my health reason.
It wasn't the Ozzympic.
I don't like needles.
I couldn't do that to myself, but no, no, ozimic, no ozimic.
I do want to say it too.
You talk about walking in a room.
There's something different about Houston women.
Houston women have a presence about them that stands out a lot more
than a lot of other women.
I think it's the side, to be honest.
Yes.
It's the what?
The size.
They usually tall of...
Tall and feet.
Well, I'm not originally from Houston.
I'm from Orange, Texas.
Okay.
Well, we mean Texas.
Everything's big in Texas.
Yes, yes.
I agree with that.
I think we do have a certain aura.
We kind of command the room.
You know, we walk in.
We're very friendly.
So, especially when we walk in some rooms with people like from New York,
they're not used to people speaking.
We'd be like, hey y'all.
The Southern hospitality.
How y'all doing?
And then their accents, too.
Yeah.
That's Houston.
Yeah.
It's very Houston.
all day.
I'm H-Town all day.
How far is Orange from Houston?
Two hours.
Yeah, it's like two hours, yeah.
What's something about your friendship that y'all think the TV show made stronger, if anything?
I think that we realize how strong we are together and how many, I feel like how many doors that we're opening, even though I think, and I know people are going to be like, what doors you open?
Honestly, podcasting, especially in the South, it's not a lot of podcasts in the South that are really, right.
And the fact that there has been
podcasters out there that have gotten TV shows
but it's mostly TV shows that are based on their
podcast. The fact that Travel Queens
has nothing to do with poor minds
and we're showing our talents
like we have communication degrees
like we went to school for this. So I think
a lot of times people don't take influencers
or people who started on the internet seriously
because you started on the internet as well. So a lot of times
we get so much backlash
because they're like, uh, y'all just
girls who grabbed a mic and started a YouTube channel
but I think being on this show it shows like
no we we got some tricks up our sleeve
you know what I'm saying so I think that it made our friendship
stronger because I'm like bro look at what we have done
you know what I'm saying even from the first time when we came
on breakfast club I was like oh my gosh like this is huge
you know what I'm saying so I think it's just like
we realize how strong we are together
and how much more that we have to do
and don't speed path to fact y'all got communications degrees
oh yeah I know I think people always forget that
because we never highlight you that much
graduated from Texas Southern University.
And I graduated from Stephen at Austin State University.
So what did y'all want to do when y'all was in college?
I just wanted to be like on TV, news anchors or what?
You know, I didn't really know what I wanted to do, to be honest.
I knew I wanted to do something in media.
And then when I graduated, I had a little fake internship at 97 and about shout out to Kiadi.
He's still on the radio in Houston right now.
And I had a little fake internship with him.
I shadowed him for maybe like two months.
And then I realized I didn't really.
really like radio so then I didn't know
what I wanted to do and so I moved to Atlanta
of course y'all know Licks ended up
moving out here one of her friends who was
also already into podcast and
was like y'all need to turn y'all YouTube channel into a podcast
and I feel like
that's when I found my niche I was like okay
I'm supposed to be podcasting but prior to that
I didn't know I thought I was going to do
like hard news I was like I'm going to be
Al Roka bitch
I'm going to be reporting everything
it's going to rain I'm going to do everything
I was going to be like, y'all don't understand.
I was going to be on Good Morning America, bitch.
It's going to rain.
It's going to rain.
I was going to be the media.
I was trying to do everything.
But, like, I took an internship in my school radio station, and we were just reporting on hard news every morning.
It was so sad.
And I was like, I cannot do this.
Like, we're having to interview people who just lost their house in the fire, like, all this stuff.
And I was like, okay, maybe I need to.
to redirect and so I've always been into entertainment news like I grew up you know watching
e-news you know what I'm saying the kids was watching cocoa melon out in Rugrats I was
watching e-news so I was like okay let me do something in the entertainment world like that
might be you know more of my speeds so I knew I want to do something on TV and media but I just
wasn't sure so podcasting kind of made it easy because I was applying for all the jobs in
Houston and I just couldn't get my foot in the door so I was like well let me just create
our own lane and do our thing how did you connect with 85 south
It was because of Carlos.
So Carlos always followed us on Twitter, and we were cool with him on Twitter.
And I think I shot my shot, and I was just like, oh, can you come record poor minds with us?
And at this time, we weren't even recording in a studio yet.
We were still recording in the living room at my house.
And he pulled up on us, sat on the floor in my living room and recorded poor minds with us.
And then I think ever since then he was just kind of watching us.
And then he saw how the show kept growing and elevating.
And then a few years later, he ended up.
asking us to come on 85 South
we went on 85 South
I think that episode did a million views
in like five days
and something
I'm dumb as hell and getting
yeah
that's so crazy
so we ended up
the episode did like a million views
in five days
and then he introduced us to Chad
and he was like I think
you know we want to sign y'all
I do have a question
some advice
I have a single friend
uh oh
she has a closet full of wigs
Terrible wigs.
Make sure you say terrible wigs.
Oh, you know who the friend is.
I do, sadly.
She has a bunch of wigs.
Curly, one day is straight, different colors.
She's funny.
She's smart.
She switches up her wigs like a Netflix series.
But when it comes to dating,
she doesn't seem like she can find the right guy.
She doesn't know if guys get intimidated
or if they're just confused.
How would you suggest she meet somebody
to secure a relationship?
it because time is running out and saw her wigs.
But why did you include the stuff about the wigs?
That's what I was going to ask?
Because the wigs could be a part of it.
You think the wig might be the reason why she can't find a man.
I mean, think about it.
Just think that I'm sure that you all felt like y'all had to change about yourselves a little bit
and it probably made the bait a little stronger for the fish.
Okay.
Well, you know, what kind of men are she, is she trying to date?
Because, you know, they say they like bad wig.
They do.
The white.
They love a crunching.
They love a crunching.
They love the white man.
She's not dating in the right pool.
They love a crunchy white.
They love a crunchy stale wig.
My wig used to be crunchy.
I could not keep the brets off of me.
They love a stiff wig.
Oh, they do.
But I will say this.
We were actually just having this conversation.
We was literally just talking about this.
They do.
They love a stiff wig.
They have that saying hard wig soft life.
I didn't make that up.
Charlotte.
I didn't say.
They do say that.
Maybe she should look at white.
A different pool.
She's in the wrong pool.
She might be in the wrong pool one, but I will say, we were just telling our producer this,
and I was saying, like, when you get your look together and you feel confident in yourself,
it doesn't even matter.
Like, whatever makes you feel good, you're going to attract the right person.
I enjoy being polished.
I used to have a stiff wig or two.
You know what I'm saying?
She got one of them in my mouth.
She does.
But her wig.
Her wig.
I told her.
I said, well, she wins her first Emmy.
I'm going to put it on eBay in auction
It's going to be a collector's item
And it still has the scrunchy on it and everything
It's in a ponytail
Who do you think lies more?
Women with bad wigs or men with podcasts?
Men with podcasts
Hands down
Oh my gosh
I feel like a girl with a stiff wig
A bad wig
You're living in your truth
We can see you're not
Yeah
Is that we can see
We can see
I agree
I agree
She ain't wrong
She ain't wrong
Did y'all argue on the trip?
For the two weeks that we were wrong?
No
We didn't
We didn't
Me and Lex honestly really get along most of the time
We never really argue or get into it
If we do, because I feel like we can
We're at a point now in our relationship
Where we can sense when the other person
Low-key tired of each other.
But it'd be over silly stuff
Like Drey would be running late sometimes
And like she'll get in the Uber
And I'll just be on my phone
Like she won't even speak
I feel like, hey girl!
Girl, you are late.
Bring your ad.
So it'd be silly stuff like that.
But we just don't, it don't
be nothing like that serious.
Like I said, life is good.
What do we have to be mad about?
Life is great.
We got to go back to this wig shit for one time.
We got, we want to have to open up the phones at some point
because I don't believe that.
I've never heard the white men like stiff wig.
They do.
And you think.
You said stiff wig, hard life.
Hard wig, soft life.
Who told you this?
I lived it.
I lived it.
I'm serious.
If you go look on TikTok right now,
type hard week, soft life.
You're going to see nothing
but interracial couples.
So why didn't you stick
with the white man then?
Because I wanted a man.
You wanted a hard life?
I wanted a hard life
with a hard man.
I wanted to struggle
with my black kids.
I wanted to struggle.
I wanted to hold it down.
She wanted to struggle
with some raw Indian.
Did any of the teachings
of Dr. Umar influenced you
to dump that white men?
You know what?
People hate when I say this.
I love.
I do too. I do too.
A one key.
Black Queen's forever, Snowbony's
number.
First of all.
I have it.
I'm so excited to meet you.
They're talking about me.
I got a bag wig.
I can't find him in first of all.
Oh, my.
Stop clean with me in this room.
Hi, ladies.
It's so nice to meet you.
And your wig looks birterful.
Boy, a hard wig will hollered on it.
What a hard wig?
What is you talking about?
Do not do her like that.
about her.
And me, and that sat,
first of all, the sassy neck
normally comes from over here,
but you and your sats on
all over there, spinning around
looking at me.
Nobody's talking about you.
You're so messy for that.
Exactly.
So I had to come in here
and let you know,
a source close to my...
A hard wig will hollahler.
Nobody's talking about her.
What?
A hard wig will holler is
dying,
nice to meet y'all ladies.
And I love the show.
I think V-Tee.
Y'all look so pretty
on the show.
I've watched all three episodes.
Thank you.
We were not talking about her.
Why you kept turning around to me?
We got cameras all in this studio.
We're going to run the tape.
Oh, my gosh.
That's this neck.
You keep talking about her.
We didn't talk about that hard dye that's dried over there.
Damn.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Now, I'm going to go back and get my producer back.
I'll talk to your lady's episode.
Okay.
I think your wig is beautiful.
I like it.
I love a ball.
Me too.
You are so messy.
Why do y'all get us involved in that?
Why do you love a ball?
Listen, how do y'all protect your mental health?
while still
me was so transparent
not at that
how do y'all
protect you
my piece
my heart
my head
and other people
peace
that's how we keep
a hard wig
used to protect me
no CTE
over here
I was
protecting
but being that y'all
also transparent
on the pod
and on TV
how do y'all
protect y'all met the house
I pray a lot
I have a great
relationship with God
I pray a light
I also
go to therapy. I think it's so important to
go to therapy and I don't know why in the black community
so many people don't want to try
it out or afraid to try it
out. It has completely changed my life
especially when I was grieving when I lost
my dad. That's when I started therapy
and I've been going ever since. It's been about five
years now. Yeah, it's the same.
I go to therapy.
I recently started going, I go to church every
Sunday. I do not play.
I've worked on my relationship with God and honestly
I really have a tight,
close-knit circle. Like,
My friends and my family, like me and my sister are extremely close.
And I feel like that's important.
Like when I have my bad days and I'm just like, my best friend is here with me, killer.
I'm like, you need to come to Atlanta.
Like I'm not doing too well.
And she will literally hop on a plane and come see me.
And, you know, because we all have our moments.
Even with Dre being my neighbor, I'm like, I had a breakdown last week.
And I called her.
I was like, bro, I'm going to lose my mind.
So I think it's very important to have people around you that, you know, when I'm down,
they can pick me up and vice versa.
So you had a grief counsel at Drea or you're just a therapist?
Just a therapist.
But I mean she did specialize in grief.
And that helped?
It helped me a lot for sure because, I mean, I would talk to my mom about it,
but it was hard talking to my mom about it because she was also grieving as well.
And it was just nice to have somebody who was unbiased who I could let all my feelings out
and let them know how I was feeling because at the time, you know, Lex hadn't lost her mom yet.
So I didn't have any friends that had lost the parents.
And so it wasn't anybody that I could talk to
that I felt like could relate to what I was going through.
Man.
Condolences, man.
Thank you.
And when you are going through those breakdowns, Lexon,
you say you hit dread, what you pull up with a bottle or something?
Some smoke, what y'all do?
I always got about it.
Not some smoke.
And not that Coke either.
Exactly.
Because I know what you was about to go.
Are y'all going to get flued out to make yourself feel better?
No.
But honestly, you know what?
I don't even think we do that anymore.
We used to, but now we really just talk.
Like, we just listen.
Yeah, we used to drink through our problems, but we really don't do that anymore.
We really just talk it out and, you know, just give each other time and just be there for each other.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to learn them good coping mechanism.
Yeah, yeah.
And one thing I've learned is just like I've learned so much patience.
I have so much peace in that because it doesn't rain forever.
So every time I'm going through something, I'm just like, just let it pass.
And it always, always passes.
So I think we, we know, we still get time.
A bottle of wine, though.
Yeah, we're going to drink now, but we don't use it as a crutch anymore.
Not anymore.
Yeah.
I was going to ask you, how do y'all balance, like, turning up for the show?
Because you still got to perform, right?
Because it's still a TV show.
Yeah.
But then being present for the moments that you're experiencing,
like those cultural moments in those cities.
You know what's crazy?
We didn't really drink that much the whole time that we were filming.
Like, we had a few scenes.
Like, we had a Mescal scene.
So, of course, we were drinking during that scene.
I think the drag show, we were drinking a little bit.
And then we had.
had some mojitos. But honestly, those were the only
three times throughout the whole time we were filming
that we were drinking because we really wanted
to stay prison in the moment. Because one thing about
is we're going to take it to the moon. We're going to take it too far.
So it's best to just not have no drinks.
Yeah. And it's crazy because the
mask house scene that we did that showed
in Mexico City last night,
that was actually the last scene that we did
for the entire show. And that was probably the most
like lit that we got because we were drinking
so much. But I think it's
very different from poor minds. But honestly,
we stopped drinking a lot on
minds. Because it was like some
cringy episodes and
we just like, oh my God. It was the
Houston live show. Oh, the Houston live show
really changed. It was so embarrassing
because we recorded the show
and then we went back and
watched it when we got back to Atlanta and it was
just so cringy. We was on stage
like, yeah, Lex, let's turn
up. And we
bringing our friends on stage
and just drunk, taking shots,
twerking. It was, it was amaze.
That was one of my favorite shows.
you came out and y'all came out
and y'all was just dancing and it was like y'all was in the zone
no not that one you're talking that
that was Houston but that was like our second Houston show
you're talking about when we had the
the freak neck outfits on it yeah
you were doing that dance right yeah no that was a good show
that was a good show we had put ourselves on a drink minimum
yeah we have a two shot minimum
before we go on stage and then we'll have like a drink on stage
but we have one drink we're on stage and that's it
once we're done with that drink you're done
yeah their first Houston show we drank that whole bottle
Yeah, we was turned.
You had nerves?
You're scared?
I'm always nervous.
She's always a little nervous.
I was just trying to turn up.
I didn't realize I was getting so drunk.
So quick.
So drunk.
So what's the long-term vision for this show?
More seasons?
Yes, we're hoping it's going to get picked up for a second season.
I think we should probably know that within like the next two weeks or so.
So obviously we wanted to get picked up.
And as far as poor minds, we want poor minds to get picked up as a TV show.
as well. That's on our bucket
leaf. Yeah, for sure. I think
like with Travel Queens, I definitely want us to be a lot
more seasons. I feel like we should do like
a whole season like in Africa, a whole
season in Europe. So that's what we're hoping that
it'll grow to. And you know, same thing
with poor minds. I can see poor minds living
on like, you know, maybe like a streaming app
or something that, you know, outside
of YouTube, I think we're ready to make that transition
with poor minds as well.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And more hosting opportunities for the
both of us and individually. She still has
has her cosmetics line
that's doing really well.
So her just growing in the beauty industry.
I have started my YouTube channel
Love LexP. So I'm just doing like
Hot Topics, show reviews, because
that's the lane I want to get into more hosting as well.
So yeah, we just have so much stuff to do.
And I feel like now that we've made that step
into TV, it's like, you know,
people can actually see what we can do now, you know?
Shopmed that makeup line, real?
I was already on.
Shopmuse Beauty Collection.com.
Make sure you get your lipcloth.
matt liquid
lipstick, lip liners.
I also just branched
into other cosmetics products.
So now I have some jelly blushes.
I have mascara and eyeliner.
Make sure you all shop.
MuseBee Collection.com.
Well, check out Travel Queens on BET.
That's right.
Thank you all for joining us so much.
And subscribe to the Paul Mines podcast.
Yes.
Big love for Lex P. and Dre and Nicole.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We love y'all.
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