The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: Pour Minds Podcast Talk ‘Travel Queens,' Learning Transparency, Friendship, Relationships + More

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Best of 2025- Best of Black Effect Podcast - Pour Minds Podcast Talk ‘Travel Queens,' Learning Transparency, Friendship, Relationships. Recorded 2025. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Brea...kfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:03 In the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ NV, Jess Hilarious. Shalameen to Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. My girls!
Starting point is 00:03:14 Lex P. Andrea Nicole. Hi. What's up, guys? We're back. We're back again. I know. How are you feeling? Great.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Good. You feel really good. Yeah. Happy to be here. Happy to see y'all. Yes, it's been too long. Y'all got the new show, Travel Queen. First of all, I'm happy to see y'all just evolving.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Paul Mines' Podcast is a hit. Poor Mind's podcast evolving. Now, y'all got the Travel Queen's TV show on BET. It's a docu-series. How'd that come about? Also, the production company Cocoa Butter, they actually reached out to us because they wanted us to audition for it. Because they had us and, like, I think, some other, maybe like, two or three other friend groups in mine. So we auditioned for it.
Starting point is 00:03:54 They loved us. and then we got it and we started filming maybe like a month after and then we filmed the whole show into weed Cocoa butt
Starting point is 00:04:02 I don't know that's a black woman on for that's no it's actually not it's right white people it's a white guy
Starting point is 00:04:08 of black eating in town shout out to eat in town they're smart yeah so what is travel queens about where y'all going
Starting point is 00:04:17 what y'all doing so we went to four different cities we went to Carter Hena Mexico City Key West and Charleston So it's basically really showing
Starting point is 00:04:26 like young black millennials, Gen Ziers, especially women, how to travel, where to go eat, where to find other black people when you travel, just how to be safe and have a good time. I think right now in media, I don't say right now, but I feel like a lot of stuff that we're seeing
Starting point is 00:04:40 in the media with black women who fight in, throwing drinks in people's face. So I really think it's refreshing to see two black women who are really friends just having good, innocent fun. We're not talking about men and dating and gender war. and all this stuff. It's just good, fun.
Starting point is 00:04:57 What about the ladies that are watching it? Like, well, how am I going to be able to fly myself out? Don't start. I'm for bad. We have graduated from that. But you're flying y'all on this show. But actually, B.E.T. And Cocoa.
Starting point is 00:05:09 That's right. But I will say, so a lot of the stuff, too, is like, it's budget friendly. I mean, we went to Charleston. You know what I'm saying? You can do a road trip. We went to Key West. So you can drive to Key West. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:24 You don't have to necessarily fly. It's not like we're doing extremely expensive things, to be honest. So I think if you budget, you know, it's not like we're doing luxurious things and going to the Maldives and, you know, staying at the four seasons. It's very budget-friendly stuff. Yeah, and I think that was the point of the show. They wanted to make everybody feel like, okay, I can come here and I don't have to spend a lot of money to have a good time.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So if a guy was flying y'all out, you'd still want to go to those destinations? Yeah, but I probably would have needed something different. I ain't going on. Charleston is beautiful, though. I mean, Charleston is beautiful, but I'm like this. Key West is one of them little ducked off. I remember I didn't take it to Key West before. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:03 I know. You got to look at the Key West. I wasn't flew out by cocoa butter. But that usually the older gentleman fly you out. Yes. It's a very, like, quiet town. You can definitely sneak off there with a old man. I had never been to Keywitz before.
Starting point is 00:06:18 That was my first time. It was, you know, it was cool. Water blue. The water was blue. That's what little, little took you. Little, little, because they're going to be confused. So I just told them that when the older guys perform fellatio, they don't really know.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Congolingus. The what? Congolingus. The conglangangus. Conalingus. When they're doing that, they say, leal, because they don't have teeth anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You know, they're trying to figure out where it is, especially the ones with glasses. You know, when they slip down on the nose and they say, Lidoletle. They'd be doing it with a glass. I like that. I feel like it's going to get a little foggy from my body. Just a little little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I like that. I don't need me a little litre little. Little little little. Yes. You're fine to the next time you'll go. The four cities y'all went to, which one did you like the best and why? Mexico City. I know it.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Because it was just so nice. I feel like it's so many black expats that are moving there from the United States. So it's a lot of black people out there. We went to an R&B night while we were out there. We went to a black vegan restaurant. it's just it reminded me a lot of the United States but just in Mexico City I feel like out of everywhere that we went
Starting point is 00:07:29 that was my favorite place I'm not gonna lie I keep saying that Charleston surprised me too like I've never been to Charleston and I have a really close friend of mine that lives out there and he's been trying to get me to come out there forever and I was like what isn't Charleston like isn't that a dance
Starting point is 00:07:43 like I was like I'm not doing out of this Charleston you know isn't that the dance it's not okay we did but I was so surprised like people be taking the nice boats out. The food is good. I had a ball in Charleston. I'm actually planning a trip to go back like
Starting point is 00:07:58 for a weekend. It is beautiful. Yeah. Mexico City is nice too, though. It is. It is. It is. A lot of people moving there yet. It is. My husband's from there. Really? Yeah. I know that's why husband, period. Mexico. I knew that already. Okay. Do you all be trying it?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Do y'all move like to travel already? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And we already traveled together a lot anyway, so we felt like that's why it was the perfect show for it. Don't get tired of each other at all, but like, you know what? You go your way, I'll go my way. Absolutely. I was going to say no.
Starting point is 00:08:29 She was going to say no. I love his job. We're neighbors. We literally live in Atlanta. I live in a building right here, and her building is right here. And the unit that I used to live in, she could see my apartment from the pool, so she would be
Starting point is 00:08:44 like waving at me from the pool. You got to watch her. No, she did. I followed her. I followed her. I did. Because they started building and building
Starting point is 00:08:51 ourselves in the moon right next door to my sweetie poo. See, I love that. I would love it in my best thing. Y'all would get tired. I'd be like, I'm going to wear some sugar.
Starting point is 00:09:00 You know what's crazy? I think when we were younger and the show first started, we didn't have any direction. We didn't know what we wanted to do. We're going through growing pains, but now it's like, she's 34, I'm 35.
Starting point is 00:09:10 We're grown women. Yeah. We don't have anything to fight about. And honestly, I think it's so crazy when people have a podcast and they make so much money and they be arguing.
Starting point is 00:09:19 We got to be mad about. You know, we have so much fun. Like, to be able to travel the world with your best friend and have a business, it's great. It's fun. How is it when y'all get in relationships, though? Ooh. I feel like we do a really good job
Starting point is 00:09:34 of still keeping the balance of our friendship and still being in a relationship. Like, we always find the time to hang with each other to go to dinner, to talk on the phone. As crazy as it is, because the podcast we do talk about dating a lot, we are really not male-centered women
Starting point is 00:09:48 and a lot of people think that because we talk about dating so much on the show but we really not like we like to be like last year we went to Turks for her birthday we wasn't inviting them we went to Miami one year for my birthday like we just go on trips by ourselves we're not like oh our boyfriends have to come
Starting point is 00:10:04 or if we go to dinner it's not like oh bring your man it's none of that we have a good balance for sure so y'all still booed up you know you know you know you know you know they're watching right now like, damn. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Damn. It's in a rocky place. We're going to see what happened. It's complicated. Both are you. Yeah, which is crazy, right? Because I feel like it happened simultaneously. Like, at the same time for both of us,
Starting point is 00:10:30 we started kind of going through a transition and a breakup at the same time. But it's not like in the bad space. No, yeah, it's not. Like, we're cool. It's cool. We're figuring it out type situation. Y'all talk each other up. Like, girl, leave him.
Starting point is 00:10:43 All right, I'm going to leave him if you leave him. Or if you leave him. No. You know what's crazy? No, I'm really like that friend where when she calls me and she talks to me about what's going on in her relationship and stuff, I'm just always like, okay, girl,
Starting point is 00:10:56 well, you know, do what you want to do. I try to be supportive of what she want to do. As long as it's not a physically violent situation or something that you need to leave that abusive or anything like that, I try to be supportive of my friends because I get it. When you love somebody, you want to stay with your man,
Starting point is 00:11:10 it's hard all here. Y'all are all married. Y'all got your family. I was going to say, we are not all men. no you are all right wait she's like
Starting point is 00:11:19 you're all men I don't know I don't know I'm in a long time I don't know I swear I was being y'all
Starting point is 00:11:26 you're right and I don't know why I said it you were just in love last year Lex I still am in love I'm very much in love like I said it's just a situation
Starting point is 00:11:35 we're figuring it out I don't you know but I think we're both so focused on our careers right now and I know it sounds
Starting point is 00:11:41 so cliche but I'm just a person he's an amazing guy, if we're meant to be together, we're going to be together. So I'm just not putting pressure on it. You know what I mean? So it's cool. We're going to figure it out, you know. What have you all learned about yourselves
Starting point is 00:11:55 from doing the podcast? How long have you been doing the podcast first of all? Five years now, right? No longer than that. We started doing poor minds when I was like 27. So, yeah, seven years. Yeah, seven years now. Okay, so y'all at that, see, people don't realize this is at the point, this is the time where podcasts really started to take off. Around your seventh, favorite year. Everybody thinks it's just
Starting point is 00:12:13 instant success. Yeah. Around your seven, favorite, So what have y'all learned about yourselves? For me, I would say transparency and vulnerability is healing. When I first started doing the show, I think that I always have kind of had more of a closed-off personality. I've always been a little bit more private than, like, she's always been like an open book on the show. And I never used to want to talk about things that I was going through
Starting point is 00:12:37 because I felt like it was a sign of weakness. And I've just always had this thing where I don't want people to look at me like, you know, I'm weak or whatever. So I think that now I'm in a space where I enjoy telling my story. I enjoy telling people the things that I'm going through because I feel like it can help other people get through similar things. Or, you know, just being transparent to me is just very important at this point in my life because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I just want to get emotional. I don't want to get emotional a little bit. But like I lost my dad and it was something that was, thank you. It was something that was really, really hard. for me to talk about on the show, but I wish that back then I had this same mindset because I feel like I was dealing with so much by myself. And when I started talking about it on the show, it was just so many people in such an outpouring of love, people saying I've been through the same thing. I can understand where you're coming from. So that's what I've learned over the
Starting point is 00:13:34 years about myself. I think that I really enjoy now telling people what I'm going through instead of just feeling like I have to go through everything by myself. What about you left? I think with me, I am such like a loud personality and I think a lot of times I would try to hide that from people and I just embrace who I am like I'm not the sexy girl that's doing all this like I'm a tomboy I like to be loud have fun so I really got confidence about myself because I'm like this is who I am
Starting point is 00:14:02 I think for when I first started like being on social media I was like doing the bikini pigs and posing by the pool and I'm like girl this is not you at all So I've really been able to embrace myself and be like, you know what? You'd allow a home girl, and that's okay. Like, you don't have to fit into this box of what you think that a woman is supposed to be. Because people always love to say, because I know you hear this a lot. They'd be like, oh, funny women aren't pretty or you have to either you funny or you're pretty.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You can't be both. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like I used to try to lean into being the pretty girl. And then I would try to lean to be the funny girl. And I'm like, you know what? I don't have to be in anybody's box. You know what I'm saying? But you always been.
Starting point is 00:14:41 sexy, you just don't give off sex. Like, you say, like, you're just not prissy. You're just... Yeah, well, we talked about this on the show. There's a difference between, like, having sex appeal and, like, being attractive. Like, Drea just is, like, sexy. Yeah. You know what I said? She was walking around. She's like, hey, oh.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah. You know? You just that's how she is. You can have both, though. Yeah, you know, like, like I said, I just think, like, being sex... That's just not my life. Yeah. It is really much. Because sex appeal is something that's just from the inside. I feel like...
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yes. And I just think, like... Yes, and I just think, like, that's not a part of my personality, but that's okay. It's not, I'm not saying I'm unattractive. I'm a baddie, period, you feel me? You know what I'm saying? So I just think that I've been more comfortable, like, being in my skin and who I am, for sure. Growing out loud is hard.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yes. You know, and that's what y'all have been doing the last seven years on that podcast. Literally. Like, going through everything, like she said, we, she lost her dad, I lost my mom, going through breakups, and then it's like, you know, we'd be like, oh, we're in love. And then the next month, we talk. about a different dude and they're like oh my god you're like y'all got a new dude already and they're doing the same thing you're doing the same thing just nobody's right they tune in support but nobody cares
Starting point is 00:15:48 it's about you you know and people not in your business so i think yeah going through relationships and growing pains and i've always been honest about my financial status too because i always say when i moved to Atlanta i had three dollars because i 100% did like i wasn't lying so i think it's important to be transparent especially as a black woman in this industry. I feel like we always shot a high what we're making because I'm like, oh, this company signed up for your ass, how much they're paying you? Because this is how much they paying us. Let's make sure that they're not, you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:16:18 saying? So I think that with the platform that we have, it's like, yeah, we've grown in front of the camera, but like she said, being open and vulnerable has helped us a thousand percent. For sure. What have you all learned about yourself from doing the TV show? Honestly, I feel like, everybody always asked that
Starting point is 00:16:35 because they're like, oh my gosh, how was it? It was two weeks, but I'm like, I don't know, nothing. I guess. To be honest. Well, I mean, because it's crazy because I thought it was going to feel so different, but it felt so natural. Like, I feel like we made
Starting point is 00:16:49 for TV a little bit because it felt so natural. It kind of felt like, and maybe because we did it together and we're best friends and we already have that chemistry and camaraderie and stuff. That's a good word. Thank you. That's a good word. Thank you. That's camaraderie.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So it just felt like I'm doing this show with my home girl and the cameras just happened to be here. How many bags did y'all pack? Two, right? No, we had that one, we had one big suitcase and like our totes and stuff. And then a carry-on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So what we did, though, is so we had the bags from Amazon that you vacuumed. So what we did is we had each bag for each city. So I had like my three outfits for Columbia and my vacuum bag. Then I didn't have to open that bag no more. Then when we went to Charleston, I had my bag for Charleston. So it wasn't that bad, but I will say shout out to. the producers at BT, James Knox, and the Cocoa Butter family because they really let us be ourselves.
Starting point is 00:17:44 They did it. Like they were literally like press record, y'all just do y'all. And that's another thing I was worried about. I was like, how are they going to edit this and make us look? But it's definitely given Lex P. and Dre and Nicole. It's us in real life. How was it? You know what?
Starting point is 00:17:57 It was really fun. It was. I had a good time. So that was my second time going to Columbia. My first time going to Cardiana because the first. Columbia, the country. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Good cocaine. Okay. Now how you know. You said that to me in my DM, so you're seeing I was in Columbia. No, you're out of line. You are crazy. They're pure white. I am weak.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So, yeah, but I mean, funny enough, I think that's what people think of, though. When you think of going to Columbia, you think of the cartel and stuff. Because, like I said, I went to Medelline a few years ago to get my teeth done. And I was scared to leave from the area where my hotel was and where my doctor was. I mean, I was just nervous to travel around because that's what you hear. about Columbia so when we went to Cardiana I had a really really good time and then especially with us going to Palinca
Starting point is 00:18:44 which is the first free black city in the Americas it was just so you know that it's Afro Latinos in a lot of these countries but when I say when we were in Palinca we felt like we were somewhere in Ghana in Nigeria like these people look like our cousins our family members it was just amazing being there
Starting point is 00:19:01 and being submerged in the culture why do you go away to Columbia to get your teeth on because it was Shaper I think here was like 30,000 and I, you know, I'm getting a little money bud back then I was trying to save the little coin. When people get them done here, they just all the same size like the extra largest, like nobody ever
Starting point is 00:19:16 acts for the mediums or, you know, the cheeklet teeth. They got the front, they get front teeth for the whole row. The whole thing's like, how all your teeth the same size. When they get the top done and don't get the bottom done. And it's like, come on. They need that corner. You got to get the texture. Like, I think that's why my teeth look so natural
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Starting point is 00:24:06 available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Atlanta. What do you mean? Because Atlanta, you know, they see beautiful women. But sometimes they might not see that in Colombia like Americans. God damn. DJ NV says Colombia got ugly women. That's the headline.
Starting point is 00:24:25 DJ NB says all women in Colombia are busted. You know what? I feel like... Usually when you go out the country and they see American women, they treat American women differently because they don't. don't usually see American women like that. Yeah, so that's what I'm not gonna lie. I feel like whenever we go anywhere,
Starting point is 00:24:39 I really can't tell the difference because I feel like everywhere we go, we kind of draw attention, I know that sounds bad, but it's like everywhere we go, we're used to people like, oh my God, I know y'all from the pod, or oh my God, are saying, hey. And then when we were in Columbia,
Starting point is 00:24:52 it's a little different because we had cameras around us. So of course, people are like looking and saying stuff and being so. It's kind of hard to tell the difference between, you know people how they treat us outside of Atlanta versus anywhere because I feel like everywhere we go now people kind of recognize us so it's not really like we're getting treated
Starting point is 00:25:09 differently per se if that makes sense when you said they were scared of how they were going to edit y'all and make y'all look were y'all allowed to be in the room during the editing process or you just like the, y'all trusted them and you just like the way they ended up editing the episodes yeah we didn't know anything girl we've seen
Starting point is 00:25:26 everything when everybody else seen and we didn't know how they were going to edit in we was on the plane last night watching the episode for the first time. So are y'all nervous for every episode that come about like, you know what? Well, I'm not nervous now. I was nervous of how my body was going to look because I just lost 30 pounds, okay? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Okay. So I, when we shot, I weighed like 205. Okay. So I was so nervous. I kept saying, oh my gosh, I hope. Because I have like a little belly on me. So whenever I gain weight, like people always tend to think I'm pregnant. They be like, let's pregnant.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I'm like, oh my God, can I just have a little shot of tequila? I had a little, you know, enchilada, you know what I'm saying? So I was really more so nervous about my body after I saw the first episode, but I was like, okay, body tea. How did you lose the 30? A trip to Columbia?
Starting point is 00:26:12 A pure Coke? Or what was it? You said what? What did she lose the 30 back? Oh, no, honestly, I used to be a girl. I used to do everything under the sun. You know, the first time I went to Columbia, it was for my BBL.
Starting point is 00:26:23 So y'all talking about, y'all know Columbia for the Coke. I know Columbia for them good doctors. But I just did it natural this time. I was doing a lot of cardio, eating healthy. You know, I feel like, and I feel better now. I think I'm getting older and I'm just all the, I'm not dissing people who do take other routes, but I just had to do it for my health reason.
Starting point is 00:26:43 It wasn't the Ozzympic. I don't like needles. I couldn't do that to myself, but no, no, ozimic, no ozimic. I do want to say it too. You talk about walking in a room. There's something different about Houston women. Houston women have a presence about them that stands out a lot more than a lot of other women.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I think it's the side, to be honest. Yes. It's the what? The size. They usually tall of... Tall and feet. Well, I'm not originally from Houston. I'm from Orange, Texas.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Okay. Well, we mean Texas. Everything's big in Texas. Yes, yes. I agree with that. I think we do have a certain aura. We kind of command the room. You know, we walk in.
Starting point is 00:27:17 We're very friendly. So, especially when we walk in some rooms with people like from New York, they're not used to people speaking. We'd be like, hey y'all. The Southern hospitality. How y'all doing? And then their accents, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:27 That's Houston. Yeah. It's very Houston. all day. I'm H-Town all day. How far is Orange from Houston? Two hours. Yeah, it's like two hours, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:35 What's something about your friendship that y'all think the TV show made stronger, if anything? I think that we realize how strong we are together and how many, I feel like how many doors that we're opening, even though I think, and I know people are going to be like, what doors you open? Honestly, podcasting, especially in the South, it's not a lot of podcasts in the South that are really, right. And the fact that there has been podcasters out there that have gotten TV shows but it's mostly TV shows that are based on their podcast. The fact that Travel Queens has nothing to do with poor minds
Starting point is 00:28:08 and we're showing our talents like we have communication degrees like we went to school for this. So I think a lot of times people don't take influencers or people who started on the internet seriously because you started on the internet as well. So a lot of times we get so much backlash because they're like, uh, y'all just
Starting point is 00:28:23 girls who grabbed a mic and started a YouTube channel but I think being on this show it shows like no we we got some tricks up our sleeve you know what I'm saying so I think that it made our friendship stronger because I'm like bro look at what we have done you know what I'm saying even from the first time when we came on breakfast club I was like oh my gosh like this is huge you know what I'm saying so I think it's just like
Starting point is 00:28:43 we realize how strong we are together and how much more that we have to do and don't speed path to fact y'all got communications degrees oh yeah I know I think people always forget that because we never highlight you that much graduated from Texas Southern University. And I graduated from Stephen at Austin State University. So what did y'all want to do when y'all was in college?
Starting point is 00:29:00 I just wanted to be like on TV, news anchors or what? You know, I didn't really know what I wanted to do, to be honest. I knew I wanted to do something in media. And then when I graduated, I had a little fake internship at 97 and about shout out to Kiadi. He's still on the radio in Houston right now. And I had a little fake internship with him. I shadowed him for maybe like two months. And then I realized I didn't really.
Starting point is 00:29:24 really like radio so then I didn't know what I wanted to do and so I moved to Atlanta of course y'all know Licks ended up moving out here one of her friends who was also already into podcast and was like y'all need to turn y'all YouTube channel into a podcast and I feel like that's when I found my niche I was like okay
Starting point is 00:29:40 I'm supposed to be podcasting but prior to that I didn't know I thought I was going to do like hard news I was like I'm going to be Al Roka bitch I'm going to be reporting everything it's going to rain I'm going to do everything I was going to be like, y'all don't understand. I was going to be on Good Morning America, bitch.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It's going to rain. It's going to rain. I was going to be the media. I was trying to do everything. But, like, I took an internship in my school radio station, and we were just reporting on hard news every morning. It was so sad. And I was like, I cannot do this. Like, we're having to interview people who just lost their house in the fire, like, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:21 And I was like, okay, maybe I need to. to redirect and so I've always been into entertainment news like I grew up you know watching e-news you know what I'm saying the kids was watching cocoa melon out in Rugrats I was watching e-news so I was like okay let me do something in the entertainment world like that might be you know more of my speeds so I knew I want to do something on TV and media but I just wasn't sure so podcasting kind of made it easy because I was applying for all the jobs in Houston and I just couldn't get my foot in the door so I was like well let me just create our own lane and do our thing how did you connect with 85 south
Starting point is 00:30:53 It was because of Carlos. So Carlos always followed us on Twitter, and we were cool with him on Twitter. And I think I shot my shot, and I was just like, oh, can you come record poor minds with us? And at this time, we weren't even recording in a studio yet. We were still recording in the living room at my house. And he pulled up on us, sat on the floor in my living room and recorded poor minds with us. And then I think ever since then he was just kind of watching us. And then he saw how the show kept growing and elevating.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And then a few years later, he ended up. asking us to come on 85 South we went on 85 South I think that episode did a million views in like five days and something I'm dumb as hell and getting yeah
Starting point is 00:31:32 that's so crazy so we ended up the episode did like a million views in five days and then he introduced us to Chad and he was like I think you know we want to sign y'all I do have a question
Starting point is 00:31:45 some advice I have a single friend uh oh she has a closet full of wigs Terrible wigs. Make sure you say terrible wigs. Oh, you know who the friend is. I do, sadly.
Starting point is 00:31:59 She has a bunch of wigs. Curly, one day is straight, different colors. She's funny. She's smart. She switches up her wigs like a Netflix series. But when it comes to dating, she doesn't seem like she can find the right guy. She doesn't know if guys get intimidated
Starting point is 00:32:17 or if they're just confused. How would you suggest she meet somebody to secure a relationship? it because time is running out and saw her wigs. But why did you include the stuff about the wigs? That's what I was going to ask? Because the wigs could be a part of it. You think the wig might be the reason why she can't find a man.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I mean, think about it. Just think that I'm sure that you all felt like y'all had to change about yourselves a little bit and it probably made the bait a little stronger for the fish. Okay. Well, you know, what kind of men are she, is she trying to date? Because, you know, they say they like bad wig. They do. The white.
Starting point is 00:32:49 They love a crunching. They love a crunching. They love the white man. She's not dating in the right pool. They love a crunchy white. They love a crunchy stale wig. My wig used to be crunchy. I could not keep the brets off of me.
Starting point is 00:33:03 They love a stiff wig. Oh, they do. But I will say this. We were actually just having this conversation. We was literally just talking about this. They do. They love a stiff wig. They have that saying hard wig soft life.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I didn't make that up. Charlotte. I didn't say. They do say that. Maybe she should look at white. A different pool. She's in the wrong pool. She might be in the wrong pool one, but I will say, we were just telling our producer this,
Starting point is 00:33:31 and I was saying, like, when you get your look together and you feel confident in yourself, it doesn't even matter. Like, whatever makes you feel good, you're going to attract the right person. I enjoy being polished. I used to have a stiff wig or two. You know what I'm saying? She got one of them in my mouth. She does.
Starting point is 00:33:46 But her wig. Her wig. I told her. I said, well, she wins her first Emmy. I'm going to put it on eBay in auction It's going to be a collector's item And it still has the scrunchy on it and everything It's in a ponytail
Starting point is 00:33:58 Who do you think lies more? Women with bad wigs or men with podcasts? Men with podcasts Hands down Oh my gosh I feel like a girl with a stiff wig A bad wig You're living in your truth
Starting point is 00:34:10 We can see you're not Yeah Is that we can see We can see I agree I agree She ain't wrong She ain't wrong
Starting point is 00:34:23 Did y'all argue on the trip? For the two weeks that we were wrong? No We didn't We didn't Me and Lex honestly really get along most of the time We never really argue or get into it If we do, because I feel like we can
Starting point is 00:34:37 We're at a point now in our relationship Where we can sense when the other person Low-key tired of each other. But it'd be over silly stuff Like Drey would be running late sometimes And like she'll get in the Uber And I'll just be on my phone Like she won't even speak
Starting point is 00:34:48 I feel like, hey girl! Girl, you are late. Bring your ad. So it'd be silly stuff like that. But we just don't, it don't be nothing like that serious. Like I said, life is good. What do we have to be mad about?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Life is great. We got to go back to this wig shit for one time. We got, we want to have to open up the phones at some point because I don't believe that. I've never heard the white men like stiff wig. They do. And you think. You said stiff wig, hard life.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Hard wig, soft life. Who told you this? I lived it. I lived it. I'm serious. If you go look on TikTok right now, type hard week, soft life. You're going to see nothing
Starting point is 00:35:23 but interracial couples. So why didn't you stick with the white man then? Because I wanted a man. You wanted a hard life? I wanted a hard life with a hard man. I wanted to struggle
Starting point is 00:35:36 with my black kids. I wanted to struggle. I wanted to hold it down. She wanted to struggle with some raw Indian. Did any of the teachings of Dr. Umar influenced you to dump that white men?
Starting point is 00:35:47 You know what? People hate when I say this. I love. I do too. I do too. A one key. Black Queen's forever, Snowbony's number. First of all.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I have it. I'm so excited to meet you. They're talking about me. I got a bag wig. I can't find him in first of all. Oh, my. Stop clean with me in this room. Hi, ladies.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It's so nice to meet you. And your wig looks birterful. Boy, a hard wig will hollered on it. What a hard wig? What is you talking about? Do not do her like that. about her. And me, and that sat,
Starting point is 00:36:22 first of all, the sassy neck normally comes from over here, but you and your sats on all over there, spinning around looking at me. Nobody's talking about you. You're so messy for that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:31 So I had to come in here and let you know, a source close to my... A hard wig will hollahler. Nobody's talking about her. What? A hard wig will holler is dying,
Starting point is 00:36:43 nice to meet y'all ladies. And I love the show. I think V-Tee. Y'all look so pretty on the show. I've watched all three episodes. Thank you. We were not talking about her.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Why you kept turning around to me? We got cameras all in this studio. We're going to run the tape. Oh, my gosh. That's this neck. You keep talking about her. We didn't talk about that hard dye that's dried over there. Damn.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Now, I'm going to go back and get my producer back. I'll talk to your lady's episode. Okay. I think your wig is beautiful. I like it. I love a ball.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Me too. You are so messy. Why do y'all get us involved in that? Why do you love a ball? Listen, how do y'all protect your mental health? while still me was so transparent not at that
Starting point is 00:37:22 how do y'all protect you my piece my heart my head and other people peace that's how we keep
Starting point is 00:37:30 a hard wig used to protect me no CTE over here I was protecting but being that y'all also transparent
Starting point is 00:37:41 on the pod and on TV how do y'all protect y'all met the house I pray a lot I have a great relationship with God I pray a light
Starting point is 00:37:48 I also go to therapy. I think it's so important to go to therapy and I don't know why in the black community so many people don't want to try it out or afraid to try it out. It has completely changed my life especially when I was grieving when I lost my dad. That's when I started therapy
Starting point is 00:38:03 and I've been going ever since. It's been about five years now. Yeah, it's the same. I go to therapy. I recently started going, I go to church every Sunday. I do not play. I've worked on my relationship with God and honestly I really have a tight, close-knit circle. Like,
Starting point is 00:38:19 My friends and my family, like me and my sister are extremely close. And I feel like that's important. Like when I have my bad days and I'm just like, my best friend is here with me, killer. I'm like, you need to come to Atlanta. Like I'm not doing too well. And she will literally hop on a plane and come see me. And, you know, because we all have our moments. Even with Dre being my neighbor, I'm like, I had a breakdown last week.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And I called her. I was like, bro, I'm going to lose my mind. So I think it's very important to have people around you that, you know, when I'm down, they can pick me up and vice versa. So you had a grief counsel at Drea or you're just a therapist? Just a therapist. But I mean she did specialize in grief. And that helped?
Starting point is 00:38:57 It helped me a lot for sure because, I mean, I would talk to my mom about it, but it was hard talking to my mom about it because she was also grieving as well. And it was just nice to have somebody who was unbiased who I could let all my feelings out and let them know how I was feeling because at the time, you know, Lex hadn't lost her mom yet. So I didn't have any friends that had lost the parents. And so it wasn't anybody that I could talk to that I felt like could relate to what I was going through. Man.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Condolences, man. Thank you. And when you are going through those breakdowns, Lexon, you say you hit dread, what you pull up with a bottle or something? Some smoke, what y'all do? I always got about it. Not some smoke. And not that Coke either.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Exactly. Because I know what you was about to go. Are y'all going to get flued out to make yourself feel better? No. But honestly, you know what? I don't even think we do that anymore. We used to, but now we really just talk. Like, we just listen.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yeah, we used to drink through our problems, but we really don't do that anymore. We really just talk it out and, you know, just give each other time and just be there for each other. You know what I'm saying? You got to learn them good coping mechanism. Yeah, yeah. And one thing I've learned is just like I've learned so much patience. I have so much peace in that because it doesn't rain forever. So every time I'm going through something, I'm just like, just let it pass.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And it always, always passes. So I think we, we know, we still get time. A bottle of wine, though. Yeah, we're going to drink now, but we don't use it as a crutch anymore. Not anymore. Yeah. I was going to ask you, how do y'all balance, like, turning up for the show? Because you still got to perform, right?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Because it's still a TV show. Yeah. But then being present for the moments that you're experiencing, like those cultural moments in those cities. You know what's crazy? We didn't really drink that much the whole time that we were filming. Like, we had a few scenes. Like, we had a Mescal scene.
Starting point is 00:40:41 So, of course, we were drinking during that scene. I think the drag show, we were drinking a little bit. And then we had. had some mojitos. But honestly, those were the only three times throughout the whole time we were filming that we were drinking because we really wanted to stay prison in the moment. Because one thing about is we're going to take it to the moon. We're going to take it too far.
Starting point is 00:40:58 So it's best to just not have no drinks. Yeah. And it's crazy because the mask house scene that we did that showed in Mexico City last night, that was actually the last scene that we did for the entire show. And that was probably the most like lit that we got because we were drinking so much. But I think it's
Starting point is 00:41:13 very different from poor minds. But honestly, we stopped drinking a lot on minds. Because it was like some cringy episodes and we just like, oh my God. It was the Houston live show. Oh, the Houston live show really changed. It was so embarrassing because we recorded the show
Starting point is 00:41:30 and then we went back and watched it when we got back to Atlanta and it was just so cringy. We was on stage like, yeah, Lex, let's turn up. And we bringing our friends on stage and just drunk, taking shots, twerking. It was, it was amaze.
Starting point is 00:41:45 That was one of my favorite shows. you came out and y'all came out and y'all was just dancing and it was like y'all was in the zone no not that one you're talking that that was Houston but that was like our second Houston show you're talking about when we had the the freak neck outfits on it yeah you were doing that dance right yeah no that was a good show
Starting point is 00:42:01 that was a good show we had put ourselves on a drink minimum yeah we have a two shot minimum before we go on stage and then we'll have like a drink on stage but we have one drink we're on stage and that's it once we're done with that drink you're done yeah their first Houston show we drank that whole bottle Yeah, we was turned. You had nerves?
Starting point is 00:42:19 You're scared? I'm always nervous. She's always a little nervous. I was just trying to turn up. I didn't realize I was getting so drunk. So quick. So drunk. So what's the long-term vision for this show?
Starting point is 00:42:31 More seasons? Yes, we're hoping it's going to get picked up for a second season. I think we should probably know that within like the next two weeks or so. So obviously we wanted to get picked up. And as far as poor minds, we want poor minds to get picked up as a TV show. as well. That's on our bucket leaf. Yeah, for sure. I think like with Travel Queens, I definitely want us to be a lot
Starting point is 00:42:52 more seasons. I feel like we should do like a whole season like in Africa, a whole season in Europe. So that's what we're hoping that it'll grow to. And you know, same thing with poor minds. I can see poor minds living on like, you know, maybe like a streaming app or something that, you know, outside of YouTube, I think we're ready to make that transition
Starting point is 00:43:08 with poor minds as well. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And more hosting opportunities for the both of us and individually. She still has has her cosmetics line that's doing really well. So her just growing in the beauty industry. I have started my YouTube channel
Starting point is 00:43:24 Love LexP. So I'm just doing like Hot Topics, show reviews, because that's the lane I want to get into more hosting as well. So yeah, we just have so much stuff to do. And I feel like now that we've made that step into TV, it's like, you know, people can actually see what we can do now, you know? Shopmed that makeup line, real?
Starting point is 00:43:40 I was already on. Shopmuse Beauty Collection.com. Make sure you get your lipcloth. matt liquid lipstick, lip liners. I also just branched into other cosmetics products. So now I have some jelly blushes.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I have mascara and eyeliner. Make sure you all shop. MuseBee Collection.com. Well, check out Travel Queens on BET. That's right. Thank you all for joining us so much. And subscribe to the Paul Mines podcast. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Big love for Lex P. and Dre and Nicole. Thank you. Thank you. We love y'all. It's the breakfast club. Come on. Wake that ass up. Earl, in the morning.
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