The Breakfast Club - Best of full interview: Rome & Jess Hilarious Unpack Their Co-Parenting Relationship

Episode Date: December 25, 2025

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Because today is National Co-Parenting Day. Yes. So we had to bring in a man who I feel like him and Jess have one of the best co-parenting relationships I've ever seen. That's right. Rome is here. Rome is here. What's that, wrong? I got in trouble already, Rome, cause of you. You got a tune already? I got in trouble because of you already. Wow. What happened? Just say, I want to know who gave Rome some liquor this morning.

And I was like, I ain't give it to me. I just told him where the bar was. You said help yourself. Help yourself. Yeah, that's fine. And you said it was apple juice. And so I was about to take a sip and I was like, uh-uh. You always knew it wasn't apple juice.

I just saying thank you. I was going to pick the cup up. Okay. You and Jess have the best co-parenting situation I've ever witnessed. How did y'all get to this point, wrong? And she thinks she's my mother, first and foremost. Oh, my God. But it took time.

It took time. I felt like when you take the feelings out of it and you realize that the child is the most important part of the relationship because it's still a relationship whether you are intimate or not you can do magical things magical things and I think that

me being a dad that I was and that I am still today I wanted that I felt like if we wasn't going to be together there was no need for us to beef we've created over time whereas now she's my best friend she's my safe space I feel like you know I can vent to because sometimes, all the time, I need it.

But I feel like when I was pouring into these other women, they would use it against me. Whereas though now, and now that she's pregnant, I don't really call her and say certain things because I know she's going through certain things mentally now. So, just as always with my safe space, though. So it's like she's always been a person that I go to, I call, give me advice.

Some advice I don't take, but just to hear her give it to me, just to know that she care because I don't really have nobody. How did y'all meet? How did you meet Jess and how did y'all start dating back then? What did you see and when it was like, oh, this is somebody I want to hollat? It's crazy because we grew up in the same. He's talking to smile. He's going to be.

No, because we grew up in the same church. But we didn't know. No. We didn't know. My mom, when my mom was alive, my mom died when I was 10. My mom was alive, we went to the same church. My mom died. My father, like, really took me away from everybody.

So now it was like fast full. with Mike, 17, it's Facebook. Now, it's after my space. It's Facebook, and she came across my time line. And I was like, okay. So I did a dot, dot, dot, and I put a basketball emoji. Well, you thought she was a WMBA player? No.

Just shut up, man. A little junior boss of these? No. You're playing with you. No, she bid on it, too. Okay. She bit, she was like, what the, I forgot what she said, but I was like, I think I was like, I'm just coming to get my ball,

coming to get was mine something like that why the basketball room i need to know i've seen it somewhere what loving basketball no i seen somebody do that like i don't know where i seen a basketball in the message this is 11 years okay 12 12 years ago so i'm like i don't know i just i did it because i thought it was it was you know but it worked it got our attention what do you think just when you saw the basketball i just said what the fuck is this okay i just typed it back and he was like he said it was my ball it's my ball it's my ball and I'm coming to get it or something like I'm coming to get was mine and I was like oh okay what's up I already knew what that was given what it was it were you want to bounce it but it

worked it worked so y'all started talking where was your first date what was your first when you started first talking about what was your honest man jaska did a lot I'm gonna say this before a lot of these young guys became Jody I was Jody And our first date, big date, I'm going to say it was six flags. Okay, okay, six flags. All right. I'm doing it big. I never had a birth certificate after my mom died.

It was here. My dad didn't want to come here to get it. In New York. In New York. Because you was born in Brooklyn, right? I was going to Staten Island. So my dad didn't want to get it. So for a long time, I just had a college ID.

I was driving on a college ID. but Jessica was the simplest one to let me drive with no ID I met with no license I was responsible though so I used to work at the car wash I used to clean it shine it up gelatin the ties

and hold on our yards but our first date was six flags that morning I went to get my permit before we left for six flags but I fell I went in there on my high horses that's why I fell our first big day was six flag The driver test

it was written but it was computer Yeah, yeah. Get written. That test is difficult. I fell to one way it said, put on your high bings or your low bings when it's, like when it's raining or something like that, or when it's the ground most slippery. Did you have shades on when you took the test? No.

Okay. I didn't really wear shades like that then. I did, but there was another, you know, yeah. But first big date, six flags. But before that, we did a lot of other things. But after that, it was, we did a lot. Like she introduced me to a lot. Actually, we both was the same age, but she was.

was the same age but she helped make me become well got me and you're becoming a man yeah coming a man and then um yeah then boom now just always says that you are you are overprotective made sure she was good correct but she always said you can't fight oh my god no she never seen me fight oh i never had to wrong we we fought i got that from she did say that because i'm not want to fight her bro oh it's crazy because i just got a picture uh From the window, you bust the mines. She busted your windows out your cut? Man, no, one window with a fist.

What? What happened? Oh, you can't beat her then. If she could break a window from a fist out, and man, I wouldn't even try to fight that. What happened, Rome? Rome had to take a sip thinking about that. That's triggering to him.

What happened? What happened? You want to a real real store? All right. I was just in North Carolina this weekend. I just was talking about this. Like, how my stepbrothers was, like, corny and shit, right? My step, like, Jessica pull up.

Mind you, we ain't together. Jessica pulls up I had a girl in the house So my brother like Come to the top of the steps like Jerome Jess set the door I'm like all right here I come

The nigga don't even wait for me to come He let her in He let her in Oh boy I walk right past him and his friends With the girl Jessica get in Count down the steps

I'm ready that she rode But what did I see when I walked down the steps Jerome You didn't see So initially tries to facade this story Ashton, I had a portable rocking bassinet. We, I could put it in the trunk, send it to her, bring it back. Ashton was in a portable rocking joint. Me and the girl was on the bed.

I had on basketball short, she had on her uniform pants. She's going to sit, she's been saying this forever. She was in the military? She was a CO. This is correctional officer. No, great. She's a correctional officer. Okay.

So, like, she's sitting, she's facing me, but her legs is like, you know how that go. Jessica coming out and she keeps, she going to say, oh, we was naked, we was not naked. If we was naked, I'd have been going, it'd have been happening. I don't get naked and sit up. No, she had a shirt on. Oh my gosh.

She's never going to tell her truth. Anyway, she's banging the girl. You beat up the girl? No, she didn't beat up. I just, like, popped her. And I picked her up. And walked up the stairs and threw out outside. Jerome, you could never lift me.

No, you never, no. You know, see what I'm saying? She never wants to admit the truth. So hold on, if the field couldn't fight? No, I ain't know. No. No. No.

No. I don't know if she could fight or not, but I hit her one time, and then she got up, then she put on her uniform and went and left, went upstairs, and she left. The truth is not, I promise you, I wish it was iPhones and cameras. No, I didn't fight you. And then my son was not in, no portable, nothing. He was on the floor on a blanket, and the cat was looking at him like he wanted to eat him.

Yes, he was. What the hell? Check this out. My basement had cement under the carpet. So I would never lay my, I wouldn't even lay on the floor. So I was my son on the floor. floor. My son was in a portable bassinet. Okay. Y'all been arguing about this for 11 years.

For 11 years? Yeah, because she never wanted to tell the truth. She was drunk out of her mind and I'm trying to figure out of homework. Well, first of I was just getting off of work, just getting up a work because I had a job. You didn't. You said, goddamn lie. You did not just get off work. You was fired at that time. So, please. No, I got fired right after that. I was working at McDonald's. That's when I was stealing out of the racists of overnight. This is good. This is so much Gretaudal love. And then if I was drinking, okay, I was drinking on the job, but I was at work. So, and then I came to get my son. So. So, No, you did not come get your son because it was my weekend. You ain't getting until Monday from daycare.

Why would you come in? No, you was coming to be nosy. I didn't have to come to me. She had a passenger with her. If you come in to get your son Nicole, yep. And I don't like Nicole either because she fucking should have told your ass go home. 11 years, you still don't like Nicole? Oh, man.

That's my dog. So how did you push the window? How did you break the window? Man, she had that shit with her hand. So you walked out, seen his car. No, I threw her ass out. I shut the door. You did never.

You were not that street. You was not that strong. Like, you did not throw me nowhere. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you, I had you, and it was steps. You jazzy Jeff, oh. Yeah, that, right there. He could never, ever, even right now could not do that. Why you hit the window, though?

Why you hit the car? Because she, she knew that work? I was just really, really mad because he wouldn't give me my son. She's a line. She's a line. You called me my son. I didn't call the police. I never called the police on him?

Yeah, I didn't call the police. I don't know how the jail? I went to jail? I was in jail? I was, pause, pause, pause. What that hell? I need everybody here this. Where I'm from, the jail is right there.

Right around the corner. You're going to walk. It's two minutes. They heard the commotion. They walked to us. I don't know how they came. I thought my stepmother call, my godmother call. One of them, it was my stepmother house, my godmother house.

Somebody called because I ain't called the police. My phone was cracked. Because you cracked his phone, too? I did crack his phone, but he could still, everybody in the house had a phone. He called my, he called the police on me. And then going, and then when the police came, I was, I just sat in my car. I was mad. I was like, no, I came over here to get my son.

Nicole did tell me. Yo, come on, let's pull off. He's not giving you the baby. He's not giving you the baby. I was like, all right, cool. But I was mad, so I didn't pull off. Police paddy wagon pulled up and got out. And you was like, she right there.

She right there. She didn't pull off yet. How did I try to get you locked up? When I'm the same one called, try to bail you out with no money. I don't know why you ever thought you could bill somebody out with no money. Like, I ain't sleep that night. You're trying to get out. You put her in jail to try to bail out?

Mr. Chetis out. You ever went through a woman phone? Of course. Could you eat after that? Yes. You could? Well, I couldn't. I'm comparing that to when she went to jail.

I couldn't eat. I couldn't sleep. You know? You were sick. I was sick. I didn't, I didn't want her in jail. Why the fuck what I called the police? Yeah.

So how did you punch the window? That's what we were. I walked up to it and then was just like, and I just punched the window. What kind of car was it? He had a Honda. A Honda cool. A Honda called. A three-six.

I know it was my first car. And he had just got it. She didn't like it when I got it. Yeah, yeah. He was jealous. Now, no, I'll tell you why. You had a lot of more freedom. I had freedom.

I had freedom once I got it. Very much. She couldn't call me. He said, bring me my car back, Jody. Right. I never called you that. She couldn't call me. She took me to get the car.

I ain't never seen nobody when it was tired of me so bad. When I got the car, when I got the car, she was like, I don't like this shit. I say, yeah, so this man you really be doing you. Because she was doing you, he would drop me off the work and go, act like he in class. I was an A student then. I was going right at a B-Tri-C for my associates. That's what I went to class because that's what. You got off work 2 o'clock.

You had to be to work 6 o'clock. So I was getting up 5 a.m. every morning. We got to your job by 545. I got out of class at 1.30. Then my homework for the 15 minutes. Can't a cold spray make downs and picked you up? Then we went home. That was my routine Monday, the Friday.

You're skipping a lot of things. Did you hurt your hand? Did you hurt your hand? No, it didn't hurt until I got in jail. I ain't going to lie to when I got in jail. She's so, no, it ain't hurt until she sobered up. This is the crazy thing. I was not that drunk.

So then when I got to the jail, guess who did my intake? God damn. No. Guess who did my intake? The damn girl who was with him. No one that you punched. Yep.

Yes. She went, she clocked in the dude. Yeah. She was like, who? I'm on my way. She did my intake. The same girl that I popped, yo. She did it, but she didn't say nothing because she couldn't be in caught up in nothing like that.

No, she lost her job. She would have got fired. Yeah, she lost her job because I snitched. I straight-told on her, like, yeah, because I was like, so you told me, absolutely, seems like I did. I said, oh, wow, how could you actually want to fuck with a niggle who laid his baby in a cat's face on the carpet? I ain't mad at that.

I ain't mad at you jumping on that woman, Jess. Because you don't know what she could have tried to do to you in that situation, so you got to put everything on the tape. I was like, it was ghetto or be gotten, and that's what it was. So now when you hear this story and you say to yourself, why they there on National Co-parent Day? because they are like the best of friends now they call each other just calls you her

brother how do you feel about that how did y'all get there do you look at her like your sister because you said mama I was gonna say what she said you created it she had like my mother like when we out of town and shit she got like my mother and I ain't going to disclose too much but she thinks she's my mother

no I just know she likes to control like she know how I am though like me and my loner I think part of that control and part is like okay we're at man bro it could be 20 of us I don't want to be with y'all so guess what I'm gonna do and he can go out of town with these 20 people and then be like all right

I'm like no we could be all on a sprinter what's going on no we all be all been on a sprinter whatever state we go to where I'm going to even going to go with a rental or slingshot or something it better not be raining

but I think that controlling part comes in because she cares and sometimes especially when I'm under the influence I've done dumb-ass shit so As good did you know that, you can admit that.

Yeah, I've done dumb-ass shit. I don't know if you heard Justice Sist in the back, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Everybody, like, you know, everybody knows. But I hold myself accountable to that, mind you. Now, I ain't gonna say I learned for one mistake because I didn't did a dumb-ass shit over and over again. But I think in that aspect, that's when the mother,

the mother with the V come in. But the brother, I call me brother and sister, like, honestly, without the child, like, it's there. It's seen. Like, cameras on, cameras off. Like, you can't fake this or make this shit up. Oh, yeah. started that Rome started calling me sis

first and then I started calling him bro I you know I'm like yeah we do have like a sibling dynamic in some way you know he still confides in my mom he like my mom is our mother like it's not it ain't nothing crazy is nothing intimate

like seriously I always say this people be like yeah right I can literally walk past this and it I don't do this what I'm saying I can walk past this man naked and he does maybe like girl what like put that up I'm talking So seriously, like... How do y'all deal with each other's spouses

or each other's boyfriend and girlfriend? Like, how do you deal with his girl? And how do you deal with... Now, Ron, she told us you had 17 baby mamas. Five. Five. Okay. I never told you he had no damn seven.

Everybody always tried to times to and shit like that. It's cool, though. It's cool. I get it. I say a five. But this was this... And this was the friction part. And we got over that, but this is the friction part was, I'm on my bend is.

I'm getting her shit. But the friction part was her getting into mine. but she's still a woman I'm still a man yeah so women tend to do that and this is not no shame to women I don't mean no disrespect by saying it but I think women tends to do that especially a woman that care about you what was she said sometimes you make bad decisions and she's there as your sister to make sure you good regardless if it's life relationship or whatever correct she said that on that with me personally I never really like I talked to about certain things but I never really like my family to get into no

intimate situation yeah because guess what y'all feel away about this person however y'all want whether it's negative or good if i'm going to deal with this person i'm going to deal with her like the female can smack shit out me yesterday i might get over it and fucker them all but it's like that's why i always that's how i was always able to distinguish the two like when jessica will have men when she come to me like i don't know like i ain't never like i ain't never pillow talking or sneak disson or nothing. Like, I don't really care for, like,

it ain't enough in a nigga that I don't if you put it in that sense. But when she come to me with a man, I tell her, I ain't right. But both of y'all got to care, though, because you're going to want to know who around your son,

she's going to want to know who around her son. I never did, though. Yeah. I never, so in the beginning stage, yeah, don't have this nigga around my son. Right, right. I grew out of that. So now it's, I trust my child mom

enough to she won't bring no fuck shit around my child. Right. So I don't say, oh, don't have this thing around my son. That's never been a problem. What has been a problem was motherfuckers envy me

except for my last dog. Yeah, my dog. Who's my dog? Who's the dog? My dog, Chris. Chris? Okay, it's my dog. It's my dog. I ain't gonna hold you.

I think he's the, I think, like, me, honestly, me and Jess, man, like, I think it's been times where a woman didn't like me and her situation. Mm-hmm. But guess what? Bye. Yeah, more so on.

Yeah, it'll be more so on his end because it's my, more of them but the thing is yeah the thing is like I don't like when I because I even tell him when he's doing wrong too like yo don't you her like that this is now how how how you going introduce me to her now I now I got to know her you know and whether she had a kid or not most of the time is the ones that have the kids but it's like yo you got to be do right or just be single like don't keep hurting women in the process of trying to find

you're looking for I mean I know that's all a part of dating but when you have kids it's different you know and then he'd be like oh that's why I don't like you to be getting into it you know and then I don't like he he attracts a lot of toxic women too like abusive relationships where women will put their hands on I'm like what yeah all right you know but he don't he he's like no but I might be fucking what of them all what she just blacked your eye what are you talking about you know what I'm saying like no we're not doing it but clear I never had a black guy Okay, well, she bust your nose, whatever.

Women have put their hands on you, and you'd be all right with it. And that's why she's my dog. Like, I think she's the only one really honestly, the one to get the fuck under my skin. Like, a certain wordplay she used. And I don't care what tone she used in. But to say that, it's like, Rar was really never taught how to love.

Like, I lost my mom at 10 years old, my heart. I moved with my dad. And when I moved my dad, I moved my dad and my stepmom, which is my mom now. Me and my mom have a great relationship. That's my stepmom. And my dad was married, but my dad was cheating. Like, my dad was cheating, bro.

My dad's showing me shit that, bro, like, I'm thinking cool. So, like, even when I started dealing with women and stuff like that, multiple women and all that, my dad was like, yeah, son, uh, uh. Absolutely. And I'm thinking. And it's cool. Because that's what you're being taught. That's what I'm seeing.

That's what I'm being taught. And every man in my life that I looked at as a role model of me was the same way. Same. So it's like what you expect. But the good thing is now is like I'm old enough now. Mind you, I ain't perfect now. I'm seeing it. I'm trying to, you know, change it.

But I never was taught to love properly. So I never, my trust issues is fucked up from my dad. Like, bro, my trust issues, before I even met my, met her. because I'm saying what he's doing. But I'm saying when it's done to him, his reactions. Like, damn, my nigga, you were just doing this. How are you going to get mad? Right?

So it's like every relationship I've went into, I had an expiration date. Me, I put an extra reading on myself. I said, she's going to get what she's going to get. I'm going to get what I'm getting. I'm gone. So I never really gave a woman the, what's the word I'm looking for? I never really gave a woman. Commitment?

Not even commitment, but I never gave the woman a chance to really. love me. But even with the kids? Like, even having kids with other women? No, I haven't. And this is, like I said, no disrespect to my children. Moms, a lot of my children came out of vulnerability. Explain, expand on that. And I'm explaining that. So I will meet a woman who I may feel like she's what I need, another safe place or whatever the case may be, but I'm already vulnerable from a previous relationship. Have a child, knowing I don't want to be with this woman. I don't want her. I don't. I don't. I don't. I really don't want to be with her,

but I feel like I'm forced to be with it because it's a child. And I've done that, you know, multiple times. Multiple times. You needed a therapist, not another baby model. I need, correct. Yeah. But at the time of need, at the time and vulnerability,

you know, women, you know, women can, they'd be masked up. Yeah, and also, you know, just on accountability part, which he has taken over his recent years, like you was looking for like your mom in women and you would never get that you know what I'm saying because you was trying to look for um an emotional connection with with you know nurturing also and then like you was really really searching for Keisha Keisha's mother you were really searching for her and women you know that's that's a different type of love you know what I mean I think different women

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Like, so it's like a lot of the times when, and I say this, this shit is real, like, I don't know if a lot of other men like me, but when being lonely, bro, you go through social, I don't get fucking how much money you got, I don't care about none of that. But like, I never really knew how to be alone. I feel like I got to have somebody laying next to me because even before my mom died my mommy was sleep naked

this is a back then thing how old were you when your mother passed I was 10 but I was a mommy's boy did you ever did you ever really properly grieve? No so grieving no I never really grieved all I did was I thought it was going to help me

by going to school for social work because that's what she was but I never really properly grieve and that's a process now I do want to get you know back in the gym I do want to get a therapist but I want everything else around me to be intact so that I could fully commit.

Because if I ain't fully committed, it ain't going to work. And that's me. I also feel like your dad didn't get you any type of. No, I didn't. Honestly, I felt like me personally, and this is probably the first time I said this, like, I think my father really wanted me for a check. And exactly what I said, like the money and lied to me for so long. I lost a scholarship because of my dad.

Oh. Because at the time where I wanted to go, I wanted to get away from them. So I had a couple scholarships. I had like over 30 acceptances. I got a separate to a school in Florida. I think they asked, did your mom leave you money? Yeah, my mom, yeah.

So my mom left me money. Oh, yeah, because I thought maybe the government gave you a check every now. My mom left money. My mom was getting money and, you know, Social Security stuff. So it was like, my dad was making bank. Like, I didn't even say the calculation. Calculation is crazy. What's your relationship with your dad now?

We're okay. You know, we all right. He, you know, he's still living with that regret. And I feel like that's why we can't really get there. But, yeah, like, I feel like my dad wanted me for a check, man. How did you lose the scholarship, though? He didn't finish that. I lost scholarship.

I lost a scholarship because August, like, 2 weeks before school was supposed to start, I had got to, I was leaving. Like, my mom's side, he brought all my dorm stuff and all of that. All my life, my father always said, yeah, when you get 18, you're going to have money. You can go get your car. you can go do what you want you go to school whatever the case me be all right cool i get 18 i graduate it's nothing there i asked my father i'm like wow it's still no answer though father

never even asked it so my i know i got a scholarship i had a partial scholarship so a partial scholarship with the you paying the school and on and rim and boy that's at the school i was going to that was about 16 17000 a semester i had like a 42 000 partial joint so my dad was always saying i I got a rest. I got the rest. So two weeks before I was supposed to leave. So a month before I was supposed to leave, my family got all my dorm stuff.

A week before I was supposed to leave, my father called me up to the room, and he like, I didn't even say what he said. I'm like, he like, you can't go to school. I'm like, why not? Like, nigga, I'm an A student. Like, I work office. I was an athlete.

I was a student. I ain't get no office from basketball, my junior, senior year. So I gave up and said, fucking, I'm going to fall back on my grades. you always said I had the money the money wasn't there he spent it all

and you know we turn 18 like 17 and a half it stopped coming but even if you even if it come again when I'm 18 that's one check all the rest's gone and my stepmother used to always tell her and I love my stepmother for this

and I wish I'd have known this when I was younger but my stepmother used to always tell him put that money up but she never came to me because she didn't want to overstep the boundaries of her husband and I understand it but now that i'm grown and we have conversations now it's like understood it because my father always tried to make people hate me i hated my step yeah i hated my stepmother growing up

but it was never heard was him lights ain't get cut off we had christmases because of my stepmom my dudes got paid my my senior dude my i'm talking my middle school dudes my bro you get money for me my middle school dude my stepmother and my teachers paid them wow high school dudes my stepmother paid them and my friends i got two friends there mothers paid all that so it was like my dad really Crush me, man. I told my dad a couple weeks ago, man, I said, bro, you hate me, not literally saying you hate me, but you hate me so much because I got you, I caught your ways. I said, but the difference between me, I'm young and I'm going to change them. You're 20 years older than me. You still doing the same thing. And I want to break those cycles. And I want to break. And it's not even me breaking a cycle, bro. I just, I don't like being like this. I don't like hurting people. I don't like hurting women. I don't like, I never really hurt. I'm so loyal to my friends that any little disloy thing they do to me, they cut off. So it's like the shit be hurt. your mind and it's like damn i already had nobody so then when i got a child mom i cherish it and i tell her pro trash the really ones you love the really ones that's genuinely there for you the ones that you ain't got to do nothing for them that really love you because guess what the end of the day when

shit go if shit go bad they're going to be the ones you count on you know there's this thing when you start going to therapy you'll hear about it's this thing called the mother wound and it's a type of attachment trauma that instills deeply rooted beliefs that make the child feel unloved abandoned unworthy a care and numb to their feelings. Does that feel like you? Yeah. Madslow laws. Madslow loss.

It's done as you as a child will affect you as an adult but it will not define you. That's right. So it's like, it's crazy because going to school is like, man, you're reading this shit. I'm like, man, it's me. It's me. Like, you know, I'm thinking of my own therapist, but you know, every therapist needs a therapist. And that's how they, that's how they're able to be effective. So it was like, man, like, you know, I've been through, I ain't have a bad upbringing,

but I've been through some. traumatic situations man and you know like I ain't they're going to define me like them babies and mom man I love them babies I feel like if it weren't for my babies I'd have crashed out long time ago long time ago and like I say I got them babies and out of all my church I got I got two children moms like that my last one you know she she may no harm by certain things but I got that one and I got this one to my left man my dog and it's like she gives me hope every day and she don't even know it like even when you know we might not even argue but like Maybe days I wake up, what you're doing, you're all right, how you're feeling?

Just because I know that she needed, like, when you're, when you're, the shoulders and the head of families or communities, bro, like, it's a lot. You know, honestly, I think them people need it the most. So I gave her how flowers every day and I feel like, man, like without her, yeah. I think you're on the right back, you know, they say healing the mother wound, first thoughts with acknowledging the pain. Correct. And then seeking professional help, what you want to do, cultivating healthy relationships. what y'all have done and you're focusing on self-care and personal growth yeah that's right so you're definitely on the right path it's gonna get there man it's time take time you know but

it'll be there how did y'all that's the most thing to me most i won't say most important but one the most important things how did y'all realize we don't have feelings for each other no more like how did that just go away like y'all have y'all love each other but not that way i got my answer so you want to go first you can go first for sure it's because i'm still thinking when i I don't stop caring about who she dealt with. I wouldn't even, like, I wouldn't even care. Mm-hmm. Like, how long did that take?

Oh, three years. So, like, when Ashton was, like, three. Yeah, it was still, like, really, yeah. It was, like, three years. But, honestly, that three years, like, I had caught a big check. So it was, like, you know, I was almost half a million-dollar nigger. So it was like

It was The pain that I had Whatever the case would be I would pay I was like just buy shit To block it out But other than that Like

You ain't try to stun on her a little bit No I never No I never I'm waiting for that I never intentionally stunted on her I never did that Never

I did everything She possibly could ask me to do And she said on One of these souls Something about a BGE bill and I'm going to address that. That was on our show. That was on co-parents and air reckless.

I'm going to address that now. What bill? That's an electric bill, right? So, I'm going to explain it. Her lights got cut off. You guys got a $500,000 check and you like that? Listen, no, it wasn't right then and there. Okay.

But it's over time because, mind you. So, mind you, like, mind you, a lot of my place, she helped me get a lot on the back end. But in the time, like, I helped her, whatever the case. I didn't know she's moving with a man. I didn't move with a man. Well, she moved man in with her. Yeah. Yeah, all right, okay.

So he had you in the dog, too? No. No. This is before I met him. I don't get in my business, so I don't know that he's not there. So boom, here's my logic, and I'm going to say what I'm going to say to her after I explain it. My logic was, all right, man is in the house. Boom.

Bejee could cut off, right? I'm thinking like, damn. So she's like, well, wrong. I'm like, well, I take my son with me. But that wasn't me talking. that was the girlfriend I had talking. Oh shit. You ain't tell me that.

I never told you that because as a woman, you ain't trying to hear that. And as a man, and you being me, I don't want to hear that. So I didn't want to tell you that because I'd have felt less of a man. And ball your fist, Jess.

So, yeah. But now, I'm not going to understand them. If somebody else is smacking the cheeks, you pay that bill. So the girlfriend was like... You're living in their house. So the girlfriend was like... Don't talk about no house.

Now go ahead. So the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount of money out of the bank. I did. She was with me. She like, mind you, the certain amount of money, I had to call because I was going to break it a half, give it to Jessica, and I take the rest, and I was going

me and Ashton. Me and Ashton, that's all I did. Shotman and Ashton. So I was going to give it that. But the girl, like, why are you giving it to Jessica? I'm like, because she needed. And she like, oh, that's why I'm here because of your money. I never said the reason. I never said the reason. I never said the reason.

Yeah. Yeah. I never said the reason. She was like, what exactly do she need? Because I know you ain't given her no, she don't need a bag or nothing like that. I'm like, no, it's something else. She's like, well, don't she got a nigger living with her? And mind you, I'm drinking at the time. You're taking the same thing. I'm like.

You weren't even thinking that until she said it. I wasn't thinking that, but I'm drinking. But when she say it, because I'm not. Like I said, bro, like wives and girlfriends, I've seen, I've seen men crumble and go against their family because of her wife or a girl. because of a wife or a girlfriend. I've seen it. And I'm like, you know what?

You're right. Why you ain't asked Jess, though? Crazy. All right, you didn't pick the phone and say, Jess, what's up what you do? Because I was a young, emotional boy. Who had just ran into a bunch of money and a bunch of bitches came with that.

No, that fuck the bitches. My nigga, I'm hurt. My hurt young man got a lot of money. Everybody had fucked me over, I got some money. I'm doing the fuck I wanted to. I'll make myself happy. And that's how I went broke.

Like, it was times when I'm not happy, but I'd go spend money. Just because I'm not happy. oh that car just came out like that everybody except me except her you feel you feel me except her so that was like and and granted right now on today i'm gonna say i truly sincerely apologize what but not taking care of you the way i should have and i'm gonna take my glasses off because for a long time that shit hurt me and it's like ever ever especially you I never ever ever meant to do that to you and it's like now that's

why I even I work so hard today and just try to even just give you something but in due time that's gonna come back I ain't you know I'd made that shit back went broke again made it back been broke again but my biggest downfall the commons denominator was alcohol and women so that shit them two problems never allowed me to really reach my full potential Because even when I seen it a couple years ago, you've seen it. In 2019, when I was single, when I went moved back by myself, where I ran that motherfucker up. Flourish.

I ran that bitch up. That's one thing I know how to do. I'm going to run it up, but maybe women holding me back, man. You ran into somebody. I'm sorry that I didn't do what I was supposed to do. And a lot of motherfuckers say, well, that I was in your jawed that one you done. I felt that I was my duty. But because I had certain people in my ear that I thought had their best interests in me.

But when that bag ran out, they left. Yeah. I'm sorry. And I'm not a sorry person. I apologize. Okay. I appreciate that. But listen, I was not, I was talking to a nigga.

He moved in months after you think a nigga was going to move into a doghouse? You think I wanted a nigga see how I was living? No. And when you say, I asked you like, yo, can you just get my lights on? I'll pay you back. That's when I was scamming and doing all that shit. That shit got slow too. So I'm like, all right, you was like, no, I take my son.

Nobody's taking my kid. Not even as far. Like, as long as Ash wasn't scared of the dark, we was good. You know what I'm saying? Like, I still had candles. We was playing. We was doing all that. We would stay outside.

That turned you up a notch. Until it went until it got dark. And then we were going to house. And hell, he never asked me why the lights ain't coming on. It don't matter. So as long as he was good, I was good. I just wanted to be able to call your baby. You know what I'm saying?

And just be like, yo, get my life back off for me. And you should have. But guess what? That made you a demon. And when I say demon, I say it in the best way, that turned you up. And I got to teach my kids, especially my oldest boy, my 11-year-old, bro, like, I don't want you to have to go through something bad to learn a lesson. Right.

I don't think everybody should have to go through something bad and learn a lesson. Right. But in your case, I feel like, yeah, I put that battery in your back. And no, when that battery came in your back, you ain't treat me no way. No. It took still a minute for us to create that bond. Yeah. But y'all have it now, and I think y'all both should give each other some grace

because y'all was dumb young. Correct. Yeah, it's right. And I always was a hurt young man, so. Right. But I love this story because it shows the foundation and how you all are now. Yeah. And how you treat each other now.

You know, I don't know you, but the way she talks about you on the radio and like you said, she is a mother. She protects you, she holds you down. I just love to see it. Yeah. No, sometimes I'll be telling her stop talking about Rome like that. He always did. I'd be like, why you be talking about room? But I get it, she don't mean no harm by it.

No, she don't. No. No. No. Like I said, man, like, I wish a lot of. other people would take from us and that's why this shit got to be on TV that's why y'all writing a book yeah all that book coming everything coming yeah everything coming there you have think the most important thing because I want y'all to save a lot of this

but what's the most important thing it takes to co-parent if y'all just leave it leave it on that because it's national co-parenting day you know I think I started up um communication like a lot of people be scared to hurt each other feelings and a lot of people would be afraid to have uncomfortable conversations, whether it's about kids, unhashed differences, whatever. Like, one day, me and Rome just literally met up and we just talked about everything that, you know, he felt like I did him wrong in certain situations.

And then he felt like I would always try, because he says I'm controlling a lot, and I do take that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I own that, I do. Like, I was trying to control how he parents sometimes, like how he would raise ash and all of that. type of stuff we just put everything on the table and just just was like all right you're moving forward because it's really about ash right and that's really like when we after that it was

like no looking back it's like all right whatever cool piece of cake it was just communication but it take I think it's a couple things man communication feelings out of it ego out of it ego for sure and just man both parties both parties got to be in it though man like I feel But, like, you know, now, like, even at my kids, school and shit, man, like, dang, you see the man. And I think that's fucked up. Yeah, kids that you're like, no, kids, no. At school, my children, my own children. Oh, yeah.

I feel like, you know, the father is, it's not a norm. So I always been, I ain't, it's not, I ain't say I'm a change norm, but I've changed the norm. Like, it's me. You ain't got to call them up. You know, the DMX son, call your father. Yeah, that's me. Call me. Don't call them others.

I'm hands on I'm going to be there and my old is 11 man I just sat to school sat in the class for them the whole day they call you but Ash called me on the side ask me my dad to come up here

it's too much can you come up but that was a thing too we had to she had to learn don't don't try to take the father from the child let me father him

because I refuse for my son to become a statistic I refuse for my son to become a young hurt little boy I refuse from my son for my son to grow up not knowing how to love a woman I refuse my son to be so many things that his father was and I'm still young so I'm still you know I told I told now yet early I'm saying man like you know one of my I'm gonna write my right I'm

my right my boys I got girl unlearning you unlearning right now correct correct you unlearning to learn when this co-parent co-parenting easy man and I used to be I used to be hard on him how he was so hard on my son like no like you like I got to want to talk to you you got to make him want to talk to you you like as he used to like come and talk to me about things he was scared to go to his father about not because it was any abusive relationships anything it was just like i can't talk to that knows my son you know was my son problem and like i say i'm creating a young man my son problem was he don't like confront it not confrontation but he don't like to confront a man

and when i say that me his father he don't like to and i tell him i said bro if you don't like something you tell me I'm not like my father oh shut the fuck up oh you I'm your father you no no ain't none of that same bratt and we go to McDonald's and I'll be like all right do you six oh dad I don't want that all right what you want it's the same concept I get his head then now he want hair oh dad I don't like that tell me don't go back and tell your mother that's what I'm gonna get mad because he was just with me and I just asked you and you ain't say nothing you want to communicate I want to communicate when you communicate with me you look me in my eyes and tell me dad I don't want this

You ain't got to be disrespectful when you say it. I'm saying, my baby, he's getting better. But I'm here. So it's like, I don't know, man, it's not hard. It's easy. It's fun. You do you have to make it a little bit easier for having to do that. It's just, man, like, I don't know.

As a mom, it's different than when a dad raising. I'm doing everything that I wanted. I wanted my father to come up my school. I wanted my dad to talk to me. I wanted my dad to ask me what I wanted. I wanted my dad to cut on my basketball game, my baseball game. My dad been a one baseball game out of four years.

Two basketball games out of four years. You've got to make sure you're raising your child out of love and not fear. And I don't want to live for it. And that's, I was scared of my father. I could talk. I got banging my mouth a lot. So I got a bustle what? Most of our fathers raised this out of fear.

Most of our fathers raised this out of fear because they didn't want us to end up going down the same path they went down. So we got to figure out how to raise our kids out of love. But, you know, if moms, moms get this. And I think I got that. And I told my dad a couple weeks ago, bro, like, you know, he could. Because he always kind of moved. My father, my father said, I don't want to hear that shit. I tell him straight out, I'm a man now.

You ain't going to tell me you shut the fuck up. I don't want to hear that shit. Your father wasn't a father. He was a provider. I'm a nurturer. I'm a dad. I'm a father. I nurture my baby.

And even your response to your dad is angry. Yeah, because he always out of. My response to my dad is what he's given to me now. Like, I'm a man now, so it's like, I don't have to take that shit. I'll leave. But he's trying to explain why. He's trying to explain. He's like that.

Because he's just now figuring it out, too. He still ain't figured it out. So it's like, if you're in the room, and it's me and be in the room, because, you know, I don't call you about this type of stuff, but this is me being in the room. It ain't, is he, it's a different story, man. I got somebody for you to talk to him.

I got a good therapist. I got a lot of them. No, no. No, and I'm not saying it like that. No, I'm talking about a real professional, and I got a real, yes. They black? Yeah, he requires.

What you want? I think I got somebody in mind for you. I want a woman. You want a woman? You want a woman? All right, I got you. I don't like Memphis. Got you.

Got you. I got you. I got you. I know exactly who you should talk to. That's cool, man. You know, I'm always open to it, man. But you know, other than that, like, you got to want it for yourself. And do you?

Do you? You know, I've been there, man. Okay. I cut back. You know, my biggest thing was just cutting back on the alcohol. Like, now I do it for recreation. Well, thank you, NV. And I did.

Thank you for me. This is recreational, though. I'm going to put in this coffee. I didn't know he was going to take a shot. No, this is great. That nigga don't drink no coffee. That nigga got you. This was a great conversation.

I'm sure it's a discussion that will continue on, not even just amongst, you know, Jess and Rome, but just amongst anybody out there. That's right. You know, dealing with co-parent issues, but I think Rome, you know, Rome is talking to a lot of different issues that a lot of us men go through, you know what I mean? So I'm happy that you was vulnerable this morning, right?

You know what I mean? And their book is coming soon via Black Privilege Publishing. I love you, y'all. Simon & Schuster. Yeah, love you more, sis. All right. Well, it's Rome. Yes.

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