The Breakfast Club - Best Of Full Interview: Tamela & David Mann Talk New Album; Live Breathe Fight, Marriage, Faith & God + More

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

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Morning everybody. It's DJ, Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in. And we got some special guests in the building. We have Tamela and David Mann. Welcome. What up, though? Thank you, thank you.

Thank you for having me. Good morning. Good morning. Now, just in case you all wondering why I'm here, I walked in the door and she said, sit down. Yes, ma'am, I'm in your house. I sit down and do the interview. Cause Ms. Mann is here to promote her new album,

Live, Breathe, Fight. But I mean, y'all been doing things together forever. Like, y'all even know life without each other? No, and I don't want to either. We got married at 21, so we've been married 36 years. Wow. That's a long time. No separations, I like to say that.

There you go. We worked through it. Did y'all know as soon as y'all saw each other? She did, cause I was that kind of guy. No. Whatever. Whatever. No we did not.

But we were just friends. Okay. We were just friends. But it wasn't long after though that I knew, but I wouldn't let him know that I felt like that. Like he was the one. I felt like he was the one, but I was like, I don't know, cause you know David had a little play in him.

So when did you realize? When did I realize? It was probably, it was fairly some months that, cause we started singing together early. So it was some months and David started protecting me, even like with the other guys, cause I was the only girl in the group, us singing. And he was always like, y'all don't harsh play

with her, she's a girl. We had a singing group, like so y'all know. Me, Kirk Franklin, and another guy, Darrell Blair. So Kirk Franklin and I have been friends for like 40 something years. Since 15, yeah, when he was 15 when I met. We went to school together. We met him.

So it's just, but I just felt like if it works out, I said, I said, I really like this dude, but you know, I have to just see, wait and see. I just play ways. Yeah, yeah, and it did, his plays played ways. She actually busted me one time with a couple other girls that I was with. I was just looking.

She was just looking. I didn't bust you, you busted yourself. They threw me a surprise birthday party. Both girls? No, well, we were, no, they just, we were all this fringe. You know how you invite people to say, okay we're gonna do this. They should have told me. And listen, we meeting at this house. They should have told me. We meeting at this house, but he brought somebody with him, so that we didn't know that he was gonna bring somebody, but it was just people that we all knew.

And so happened a couple of them that knew and then his new piece I guess he had. Wow. Wait a minute. I got it. Throw me out there like that. That's minute, I got it. You're new piece. I've been saying it was back in the day. This was like 19. We like 19 years old at the time. This is about Tamela Man Liv breathe. She didn't live through this, she didn't breathe through it.

He getting nervous now. 30 years later, he's still nervous. I didn't want to know how much did you cut run of hovel with women, David? How much? I was doing a little much. That's why I wouldn't, for real, that's why I wouldn't hook up with her because she was my friend and I knew once I started that, that was it. She wasn't going nowhere?

Nope. Then once I said I do, I am, I will. And here I am. How did you know? I want brothers to know. How did you know? This is the one, I'm going gonna put all my play away to the side This is why I want to be over the rest of you just different, you know

She she just wasn't the same but she was somebody I could call When I was in trouble washing had to wash dishes and stuff. I'd call her and talk and wash this She'd be what you doing? I'm sitting here washing dishes What you doing? And so it was just we would just have that conversation just about everything like she knew about She actually knew my baby mama name before me so she knew about all of them everybody so when I decided Okay, let me cut this out I start caught hey you may want to come and get this last little hit cuz I'm about to get in some for life and Boom And boom, that's it. Wow. That's beautiful. 36 years.

Don't that sound crazy? You told the girl come get one last loop. I thought we was gonna get past it. That sound crazy. Man, you crazy man. No, but I just knew for real, she just had something different. And you know, we can say it's different,

but you know, me being a believer, I know it was the anointing that she had on her that was different. So I couldn't, I wasn't gonna be able to play her. And then I knew she was gonna be famous, so I got her pregnant and trapped her. You know. So.

You did not know that. You did not know that. But it's really been a wonderful ride, y'all. That's right. Marriage can work. I mean, it takes work. That's right. But we really enjoy each other's company,

and I like him. We like each other. We're not just in love, but we really enjoy each other's company and I like him. We like each other We're not just in love, but we really like and love each other hanging out doing nothing is fun to us That's the problem getting some of the interviews like this is because you know We've they've pitched us to do interviews as a couple so women has he cheated on it now. He's not cheating on Does he have something else going on anybody addicted on it? No, he's not cheating on it. Does he have something else going on? Anybody addicted to something? No. They come to y'all with that? Yeah, it's like you can't get interview

if you're doing good. You know, it's like the world thrives off of the negative. It's like the positive that people, and that it can work in talking about family and trying to hold family together. I mean, cause you know, it just. Somebody put online the other day, they can't be that happy.

They fake. That's fake. People say that all the time. Yeah, the other day. They can't be that happy. They fake. Yeah, that's fake That's that's people say that all the time. Yeah I'm like they say that all the time and the reason is cuz they're not happy in their life So they can't see how you guys are not happy I was gonna ask so what do you tell young couples cuz you said something you said yeah But you've been together that long and never separation right me and my wife. We've been married 23 years been together 31 no separations, right? We work through everything, good, bad, ugly, whatever. So what do you tell young couples?

We took divorce off the table, and the thing is is to sometimes you gotta just separate, and for instance, in the house, to just gather your thoughts versus like throwing venom like at the heat of the moment. Sometimes you just have to back up, okay, let's take a minute and digest what's happening versus so you won't say, I say piercing things.

I've been saying that since the beginning because you can say stuff when you're angry and then you can't take them words back because no matter if somebody say, I'm sorry and I forgive you, but in the back of your head, you still thinking. And you never try to resolve issues in the middle of a battle.

Right. I mean you just let it calm down a little bit. Just cool it off a little bit. When you trying to resolve stuff in the middle of war it gets a little hard because you know early on like she say just I'm quick with my mouth quick with my tongue so I would just say piercing stuff and I just started to see how man this is devastating this woman it's crushing her so you know I just start building her up what's the worst battle that you guys got into that you remember that it was just nasty and you was going at her neck she was going at your neck okay so like we talk which one you can't say knock at the door yes the knock at the door

knock at the door imagine this imagine she Knock at the door. Who showed up at the crib? Imagine this. Imagine she's at work, you at the house, and the constable knock on the door and say, hey, here you go. Here are the papers. You've been served. You've been served. I say, served with what? Oh, you have a baby. I'm like, what? I got a new, yeah. And so she comes home and is like, hey, how y'all day been? I'm good. This is how long y'all were married at this time. We were married five years by this time. So before I got married, when I'm last, come by the last. When you're last little hits.

Yeah, come. You're giving us the last little hits. Oh, yeah. That little relapse always gets you. Yeah. And so imagine her coming home and say, hey, how's your day? Oh, my day was good.

What you do today? Oh, I got us another baby. Oh. That's how you said it? No, I did not. I'm about to say, gee, but you can't. Of course not. You were hot. Of course. Since you gave J.S. a show and Oh, that's how you said it. No, I did not Take him some time to get it out. Okay. I rehearsed it cuz on the way home. Okay, I'm gonna tell her like this So, you know you remember now I can't say it that way. So, you know the time and I can't

So finally I had to come say dear, you know, I might have a child that, you know, that I had. And the thing is, is he had two. He had two, he said from a previous argument, that's what he calls it. So that he's, but they, you know, two different ladies. The best things that ever happened to my two daughters, the best thing ever happened. So it's like, I told him, I said, okay, now I accepted the one,

because I was there when she was born, because we was best friends. She was at the hospital the day my child was born. I went to the hospital when she was born. The whole 21 hours, y'all, I'll sit there. But as he came and said this to me about the other young lady, which I knew about the other young lady,

and I knew that they had been intimate, I knew they had a thing going, and all of that. But for how it was presented, it's like, it was rough for me to take you know I was like I don't know cuz the chick you know God bless her we're in a better place now But then she was rough to deal with right you had to put holy hands on I didn't put no holy hands on You know I just had we had words, but not even to They don't do that. They air this stuff.

Don't put me out there like that. Somebody might come try me. But I'm licensed. How about that? The holy bullets. So how did you get through it? You know what? We talked about it and David really pulled me.

Before we got there, it got really bad because she was like, I can't deal with this. I'm out. And I shared with her, like, look, it's me and you against everything else. That's the breakdown he gave you. It's me and you against everything else. Because I know that this is a hard situation to swallow. I know I put us in a bad situation. I tell my kids now, I say, look, I put y'all in a bad situation because now you got to

go over to your mom's house for Christmas. Okay, I'm gonna have Thanksgiving I say that's a hard place to put kids and I say I take full responsibility I mean that my two daughters best thing ever happened you see him now I went to get the blood test You know how you go in to do the test and I was gonna go and do a test You know the first thing baby probably ain't mine that baby ain't mine so by now she's five and I walked in the place and I looked down at this little face I was like we ain't got to take no blood her face is exactly like mine I was like

no I said dear we gotta just now you gotta tell mother pork what she said to you oh yeah you're gonna give me a check. You gonna give me a check? You gonna give me that check? That was the baby said. That was the baby. Oh my God. But it was parents. That mama's coaching.

It was both of us as parents that put that kid in that bad situation. And our relationship, my relationship with her is like, man, I just love both of them. So you had no clue until the knock on the door. Right. You know, there was murmurs, you know, but I wasn't sure. Of course, I wasn't gonna volunteer. I just love both of them. So you had no clue until the knock at the door. Right. You know, there was murmurs, you know,

but I wasn't sure. Of course, I wasn't going to volunteer. You're like, bring another one on. But I won't. If the knock at the door never happened, you would have just like, the murmurs just would have been there? Like, you never wanted to know?

I don't know. I don't know if I was even mature enough to say yes on that. Gotcha. That's the whole deal is maturity. But it's the honesty, it's like, if you didn't. I don't know. I don't know if I was even mature enough to say yes on that. Got you. You know, that's the whole deal is maturity. But it's the honesty, it's like, if you didn't, because like I say, we knew that they had been involved.

Right. It's like, but it's a possibility and you saw the baby, but to me, she looked like him and she looked like her. So it's like, she was a great mixture of the two. But when David told me the resolve for me, DJ Invictus was that. He did the spark thing. He said it's us and then it's them. It's everybody else.

He said so you never have to worry about me choosing you over them because it's us first and then them. So that gave me a reassurance. And that's everything. In our relationship. That's key to everything. I wouldn't have to be fighting to just have my place. Because I knew that I had the papers,

but still you don't want to be warring with someone else over just stuff that's even outside of your home. How did you block out the noise, right? Because I'm sure you had friends and girlfriends, leave him, he's this, that, you have a... But no one really honestly did come to me like that, because the thing is, is we were in a small community.

A lot of us, we were, yeah, we was church kids. We was in church singing and all this kind of stuff. So all of us did know each other and knew that they had been what they did. What is that? You know, doing what you do. Oh yeah. You know, being involved.

So- That's stuff outside the church. Yeah, so, but if people didn't really, they knew me as a person and they knew her as a person. So it's like she had her reputation, I had mine. And it's like no one really never stepped to me and said anything crazy like that. But they was willing to defend me.

Now, mind you, when we wrote this book and I put the chapter, the knock at the door at it, girl, he was cheating on you all the time. It's like, do the math, read the book. Just go read the book, you know? Girl, I knew he was cheating. It's like, you just gotta read and just follow. But people don't do the thing.

But that's how we living and we breathing and we fight. That's right. Through all the things, you know, 36 years later, we're still building, we're still living because we just believe that heaven is our destiny. You know, we're breathing every breath with purpose. We believe that we have a call. We have a purpose to do what we do.

Even to inspire people that follow us in relationships. I mean, this is like you saying, everybody wanting us to do this together, Lauren. They do, and they expect to see us. It's like when you see one, it's like, okay, where your husband? You out here by yourself? No, he's here.

It's like he just stepped away from you. Because trust me, I've been trying to lay in the cut while we've been doing this promo tour, and the same thing, I was like. We fightin' together, we doin' this together. I really can't see, I mean, I don't see y'all apart. Y'all are really tag team back again every time we see y'all. Yeah.

We really, and we are. It just feels complete when y'all are together. And that's, I love the completion of it. Because he completes me, and my prayer is like, Lord, please give us more time. Give us more time together. And it's like, I don't know if I can do life without him. Without God, without him.

It's so beautiful. You're gonna make me tear up. But it's the truth, though, because it's really a completion. David pushed me into this. I mean, he helped me to get to this point as an artist. He helped develop me as an artist. And it's like, even when it comes to interviews, y'all,

this man, with us being the same age, but he's walked me through life. It makes me almost in tears right now because it's like, I'm really grateful. I'm really grateful and I'm thankful for you. And I really appreciate just having- We done came to the breakfast, thought you about to turn this into over.

But having the opportunity, no, to even to be, you know, to be transparent and to even show people our lives It's not a joke is it's really serious that he's my friend and we really have a good time together But we don't base it off of the things and a lot of times I think in our life Especially in our culture we build things like it has to be about the gifts and what we do them for each other What we go in and what we drive any it is now we enjoy Home on the couch. But I think that's what's missing.

Hey, y'all was broke together. We was broke together. That was an understatement. We were broken and broke. But I think that's what's missing a lot of times. Even when I look at my wife or Charlamagne looks at his wife, we came up from the bottom. We didn't have anything.

It was just love. It wasn't about a check. It wasn't about a dollar. So you built it together. Expensive to us was Red Lobster. That's right. Oh yeah, that's so true. That was my favorite restaurant. Y'all like for that? That was a special occasion. I sold crack too, though. Expensive to us was red lobster like you know

That's all crack to those To scared I was around it but was too scared to do that Is that what got y'all to get in this shape because you said you know you wanted to live like you wanted more time Is that what made you all say you know what let's get into the I had a whole Diabetes scare and all this stuff and we just like man., we gotta do something. I can't leave her here by herself. It's just too much going on. Just seeing the craziness and I'm just like, I can't leave her here by herself.

I gotta get myself together. And so that's what we're doing. We just a work in progress, you know. All the good, man. Thank you. Working from the inside out. I think the importance of this record and doing it is like mentally, working coming from a mental space,

coming from building a body, doing differently, making better decisions for the body, and that thing is like so we can be here longer together. And I was telling you off air, thank you so much for what you're doing in this mental health space. Thank you, brother. It means a lot to me as a black man

and somebody who's expected to make the world feel good, I was like I shared with I was embarrassed to come out with my story of depression and making it and to hear stories like you yours and and you're talking and just putting it in the forefront it makes people like me say good I can share mine without being embarrassed because I was embarrassed really I mean like- But why embarrassment though? Because people expect you to be so strong. Because people expect me every time to come out and perform. You gotta be funny.

You gotta be funny. You gotta be, you Mr. Brown, you make the world laugh. Like she say, I grew up, I'm a fan of you. Okay, so people expect that and so they don't know in the background you dyin', literally dyin' and drownin'. And so when people like you come out and make it known, hey it's cool, I have a therapist and I have Jesus. And so I just want to put in.

But even all of y'all, it's just all of y'all lives what y'all give, I think it's important that all of us bring what we bring to the table. I feel like this pie is big enough for all of us to have a piece, to share it, we can help somebody. I mean one of our messages is how to get to somebody. I mean, my God, I mean, it's like with the platforms that we have, we should be able to help encourage somebody

from any walk of life. I just feel like we're sent here, not just for us, we're sent here to help all walks of life. So what's the message in this album? This album is to live, breathe, and fight, even though you're facing the things you're facing, the songs, excuse me, on here is talking about carry on. Even though that you've dealt with mental health

or different things in your family or whatever your issues may be, we have to carry on. We deserve to win after you've done and been through the mess and the upbringings that we've came out of. We deserve to win. You deserve to have some nice things things you deserve to have a smile on Your face to be a good lady miss you gonna find somebody I've been

She was kind of like you early on she was a player player for me. I'm a layer You say I didn't start out player I did it what I mean You said I didn't start out playing. I didn't. I mean, once you get... She said she was deep in love. I wasn't a player. I was... Don't put me wrong.

I'm single. I'm just meeting people, you know? And now I'm... She kicks the same game to the same guys. That's not true. And they figure it out. To the fact that two gentlemen said, you need to fix yourself. You need to get therapy to come back around.

Two of them told us you need to heal. First of all. Two men told us you need to heal, Tamela. One of them only lasted until the Sunday after homecoming. Oh. Because you needed to heal. No. One of them only lasted till the Sunday after homecoming. Cause you needed to heal. No, because he don't get me started. A lot of it be deflecting and capped.

And the language she use, she be calling these guys things like eaters. Y'all know about that? No. Weeders, yeah. Do not. My best eater. You will not.

What's the best eater? I do not talk. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I didn't say that. I didn't say that! Got him labeled in the phone, Eda.

Eda too. Best eater. That is not true. I would never do that. That was the eater. But I think we should... But when you're looking at being found, I think we have to make a list of what we're wanting in a relationship. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records,

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Then you become the list. Apple list. Apple list. So we become the list and just like one of the songs is called Big Facts, it's my fun song, but it's like looking in the mirror, examining yourself, fixing yourself, so when he finds you, you're ready. It's like you're making ready. It's not like you're just sitting. When he finds you, what does he find?

He finds a good thing, you find favor. We bring the favor. Women don't realize that when a man finds you and connects with you, you are the favor to the relationship. And favor goes way beyond money. That's right. So it's like you wanna be, it's like,

I don't understand it, but it's like, I found these things out later in life that I have value, that I have a purpose, and again, a cause. Y'all gotta tell him I'm a minister to him. I'm a minister. I'm a very poor. First of all, don't say Lauren needed,

because a lot of, they don't understand. She's got problems, she don't receive it. No, no, no, no, no, I don't receive it. I receive it. I receive it from you. She texted a man of scripture, Proverbs 18, 21, talk about a life endeavor and the power of the tongue, either.

True, that's true. I did not say that to her. You're like menacing big brothers. That's so true. I did not send that to her. Yes, you did. Okay, wait, did you send that? No, I would never send scripture talking about Proverbs.

Because why would y'all play in front of Godface like that? I would never send a Proverb talking about my best eater. My pastor would have your tongue. Help me, Lord. Help us, Lord. See, that was too easy of a joke. She just laid it out there. I know.

I heard it. That's why I did it. Don't you do it. I would do it. But don't take that. Will you just know what you want. And it's OK to have standards. But you said that you realized later in life

about your value. Yeah, but yes. It takes time for you to get to a certain point where you feel like, OK, now I'm ready to enter back into things. I just feel like some men don't understand when you're taking that time. And that doesn't mean that you're lonely or without.

It's just you know you need that time. I stepped away from something. See, that's the only process when y'all say for taking her time for that's the healing process right there So she is in a process of being here. Where she looking at so y'all just have to it's her way You still dating? G-ho this weekend Honestly. What's that? What's Gio? Oh, I was just gonna say. I got it on the ground in my face. We 58 and old. I got eaters, I be with the hoes. I'm so sorry for them.

That's okay. I brought y'all into this and I did not know. It's okay, but as long as you know. Yeah, I know what's really going on. And I know these guys are, y'all stop teasing her. Thank you. Why you gonna come here and try to mama somebody? Because I'm just old.

I'm just old. I'm the oldest in here I'm pretty I did take time before I started dating I took a lot of time because it was a long relationship that I was in and then I got nice outside And now here come these two. I see God working on That's right. Hand on me. That's right. Hand on me.

God need to have hands around the throat. His throat. What? The way he got his foot on my neck. He need to choke on it. What? But I have a song on this called Power, it's talking about the power of God. You should listen to it, Shama.

That's right. It's a good one. The power is really just talking about how the Lord just maneuvers and how His power just happens over things and just how he just holds us. I mean it's just amazing how God just really protects us when we don't know that we being protected. We think we out here doing it ourselves, but the Lord is really shielding us.

So it's just really a blessing to be able to bring, my hope is that it's good music and people can be healed and have inspiration from it. I was gonna ask about Lord I trust you, right? Cause you know, to what you're speaking about now, you say when the sun's not shining down on me, when the chaos is overwhelming my peace, when my life is spinning out of control,

when I lose my grip and I start to let go, Lord I trust you. How hard is it to put your trust in God when things aren't going well? When you don't see no light at the end of the time? It could be hard to me, that's when I have a real good cry. I just get in my, I get in my car a lot.

Cause my car to me, it's like I can get away from everything and I don't have to hear anything. It's like that, but in my closet, it's like a prayer closet and in my car. But it's like, because God, it's like, I don't understand what's happening right now. This last year and a half of things coming to me, like I can't believe that I'm in this situation I can't believe that I'm having a fight just to

prove who I am and I and I thought I was doing that but it's like okay Lord I trust you I trust that you gonna handle it and then that's when the song too came for me working for me that the Lord just gave me a stamp of approval you may not see me at work but I'm working in your behalf that he's working for me, that the Lord just gave me a stamp of approval. You may not see me at work, but I'm working in your behalf, that he's working for me. Bless you. Thank you. So it's just, I just take comfort in knowing that he is my God, and he is my help. He's my present help in the time of storm.

Even when I don't see and nobody else is around, he's there and I can go to him, and I ain't got to worry about him, my business being in the street. That's why testimony is so important though, right? Yes. he's there and I can go to him and I ain't got to worry about him in my business being in the street. That's why testimony is so important though, right? Because I like to hear other people's stories and what they've been through and what they came. The overcoming of it. That's right.

The overcoming of it. That was your last album, Overcoming. The Overcoming, sure was Overcoming. And that's the thing is, and the Lord has allowed me to finish the work, even to the extent of even with my body, I finally found, I reached the goal of like, even the weight loss, I finally found I reached the goal of even the weight loss that I was trying to do.

But to even spiritually become a writer, like I wrote on, it's like I gave direction on every song on this album. So it's like things that I'm proving to myself and showing like, Lord, I wrote the plan down and I'm following through with the plan. Working for me, that was your 11th number one, right? Yes.

You broke the record of all time number one? In gospel music. Wow, congratulations. With her mentor, her and Kirk. We're tied for number one. We're tied. But I didn't, I mean you don't see this stuff coming. You hope people gonna like the music and enjoy it, but it's like when it happen,

I don't even look at the charts, y'all. They tell me. She never know. Working for me, you lean into the country music. It's, mm-hmm. Yeah, so, and I know Kirk Franklin is known for dibbling and dabbling different beats and sounds and stuff like that.

Have you thought about like what, you know, it would be like for you to do other styles or bring in other styles like the R&B or like anything secular, but making it gospel, kind of how he does it. Well, I kind of have some balance that's close to, I would say, maybe R&B. I've had a little.

R&B, yeah, R&B. And then we did do a love project, Us Against the World, that I did, like I have a song that's called Feel, I sing a song that's called Feel Like, is really a straight R&B song. We didn't push it, but I think it would've really did well. But I just didn't want people to think that I was trying to do R&B music,

that I still wanted to stay in my genre. Because I feel like, again, like I said earlier, we all have a part to play. And really she was afraid of what people were gonna say. And I was wondering, I'm worried about what people were gonna say. I was, I was very fearful. And it wasn't like I was fighting them,

but I was dragging my feet. It's like, I feel like if I can hear whatever, I can sing whatever. You know, like when you say the country music, it's like I'm country. Y'all hear it in my, just how I talk. But I know about the chickens and the hogs, you know, I was raised actually in the country.

So it's like those things to me what it's like I've been stretched and people just don't I think once you hear a lot of times we only listen to people's Single that they have out but we really don't go listen to the body of work Even with even with the the the love project we did she was afraid afraid of what people were gonna think. I'm in the studio, I got my chest hairs out, I got my sun shades, I'm doing my best R&B. Oh, you was writing? What? I mean, let the lights down, pull the lights.

Turn the lights down, I had my shades on. I was doing my, oh yeah. And she was like, just had, I said, that is not how you sing. But then I realized she was afraid of what the church crowd was gonna think of her. But once I thought about it, it's like I'm singing to the love of my life. I'm singing to him. I'm not singing for y'all per se. I mean, thank God for everybody,

but I was singing to him and the song is, you make me feel like I'm on top of the world. And when it's the truth, he does. So it's like when you hear this song, it's like it just brings it all to life of like me talking straight to him or him feeling like when he touch me, it's just, he still give me goosebumps.

So it's like, bae don't do that. Don't do that right now. Don't do that right now. Don't do that right now. What was wrong with that though? Y'all married, why can't two married people have that? It's true, but it's just a society that we live in. It's like our people, we can be judgmental.

We can be the most loving, but we also can be the most judgmental when it comes to Christian people. I don't understand that about Christianity. I'm not gonna lie. I have no idea. I'm not judging one of the first things they teach you, but it's not judging the people.

And I love being on this side, but I don't know why we're like that. I have no idea. But it's just, it does have to be a separation though, y'all. It's just, you know, this just has to be... I wouldn't come and look for you to do certain things just like you probably wouldn't expect for me to do certain things. And it's not judgmental.

You just, it's just like what you've represented. You just, that's just kinda like, like with your parents, it's like sometimes even, some kids, like our kids like to talk about sex. They don't want us to talk about sex. But we have sex. We have sex. So it's like, but it's just like people don't want-

We make love. We do, and people don't wanna hear certain things from certain people. So it's not, I don't think all of it is, I would say judging. It's just, you just, I'm gonna start saying what would Jesus do? Could you see him just pull back on one? Yes. Get out of here. No he wouldn't. Smoke some weed? Yeah. Absolutely. His father made it. The burning bush was to bring a message. Did you say that? I'm gonna push you out of the business. His father created marijuana. The burning bush Burning bush was to bring a message

Burning bush was not for use to him smoking. No, the bush was being burnt to show as a sacrifice Sacrifices in the bush that I'm talking about. No, they're not God creates everything for a purpose God created marijuana But it wasn't for us to be like joyous as far as probably healing. Now I do believe there's some medical purposes. It's for healing. It's not for us to just be like, what up? I'ma go get one for you. And I'm just in my cloud. Now, cause I got people,

this young man, I ain't gonna mention his name, but he said, my man, I love your album. And when I'm there, man, I'm going straight to church. It's like, but he high. He's going in his garage and listening to the temple of man. He high though, he said, man, he said, I had the best church. I said, I said, come on. You almost said his name.

I said, come on, man. You know, you get, he said, but he says, true though. He said, I just had a better church when I done smoked with him. So he get high, he listen to your album and go to church? Yes. He is going to listen to the churches of my church problem. He's like one of my biggest fans. You got to meet people where they ask them.

I think Jesus is getting high with all of these disciples. I love him. I sit in time to him on the phone. I mean, I take time with people because it's like, once you really get to know me, I really am a mama mama, and I'm an ain'ty ain'ty. So it's like, and I'm for everybody. You know, I love to cook for everybody.

So Mama Man's Kitchen is another thing that I'm doing. But it's just, I just love people. And I just love, I just for everybody, and I love to cook for everybody. So Mama Man's Kitchen is another thing that I'm doing. But it's just, I just love people, and I just love, I just feel like I should be able, we should be able to rap and talk about everything. Y'all don't think Jesus got high? I don't. I'm gonna push you out of your seat. Listen, why you think all them people thought

he was walking on water? You know I don't cuss, but nigga, no. He turned the water into wine, so that's the alcohol. I don't cuss, but I do say that. And then he turned the fish,ls, the fish into bread. He multiplied it for everybody. That's the munchies. That's the munchies.

Man, I don't know, man. That is the munchies. I see why you always on him. Come on, come on, Lauren, get this. I'm with you. This is your time. You know what I'm doing? I'm allowing him to jump off the cliff on his own.

And we just gonna watch him go down. Jesus know my heart. He working on me still. He off the cliff on his own. And we just gonna watch him go down. Jesus know my heart. He working on me still. That's what I was gonna even say. He know my heart and he working on me still. Help me Lord. Live, breathe and fight y'all. Live, breathe and fight.

He just sitting there like, I can't believe some of the stuff he say. Keep living, keep breathing, keep fighting. Because sometimes he talks so like, like. You be telling him he talk too much. No, no, no. He says it's so aggressive and with so much force that you think is true, right?

He's been up here for 15 years talking about the burning bush was dead Jesus was smoking the burning bush So there's a lot of people out there listening I think Jesus was smoking the burning bush And you know, I just recently I just recently, I just recently He's a real believer, like you really You know the word, you know that bush was not there for him What do we call God? The most high

What's wrong with you? The Most High. He is the Most High. You better give him reference to. You better give him reference. People out there that agree and listen to him. They do. That's misleading and you stop that. That's the mama thing. You quit that. I'm sorry God. God if I did anything wrong I'm sorry.

You know my heart God. Back to the album before all of us get struck. Let me leave. Let me leave in the building. Can we play some records off this album? Please. What you want to hear right now? Uh, uh... Lauren, what you want to hear?

Deserve to Win. Deserve to Win is my new single. Lauren, you want to hear that? Deserve to Win? Yes, it's a good one. You deserve to win, Lauren. Matter of fact, let's play both. Because I don't know if I might go to hell after what I just said. So let's play both just in case. Wait, he said what? Let's play both, because I don't know if I might go to hell after what I just said, so let's play both, just in case.

Wait, he said what? Let's play both. Oh. Let's do working for me and the third one. Don't try to bring God on in here double time now. Now you see a double. You were just smoking with God, now you in the heaven. Yeah, all right.

I told you, you going to throw like that, play by yourself. Ain't I? Won't you do it? Won't you do it? He's working for us tonight. Yes, it's a name. We got to say a prayer before we get up out of here. Father God, we thank you for this day.

We thank you for this opportunity to be before your people. We ask you just bless us, Lord God, bring inspiration, understanding to all of us, God, in every area that we need and touch those that are having problems for us in their minds, Lord God, to just bring and lift every weight off of us, oh God. We just give you glory for this opportunity. Thank you for the Breakfast Club. Thank you for what they bring for our people. And we give you glory for everything that you're doing.

In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. Amen. We appreciate you for joining us. Always a pleasure, man. Thank you so much. Thank y'all. Pick up the album out right now. Live, breathe, fight.

And remember. Keep living, keep breathing, keep fighting. God did not smoke the burning bush. He did not. That's not it. It was for a sacrifice. Come on, get out of there. It's the Breakfast Club.

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