The Breakfast Club - BIG FACTS feat. DAVID BANNER

Episode Date: December 28, 2024

The Black Effect Presents... Big Facts! In a powerful and heartfelt Big Facts episode, David Banner delivers an unfiltered conversation about his journey, the importance of legacy, and the transformat...ive power of self-love and community. Banner discusses the trials and triumphs of coming up from Jackson, Mississippi, the struggles artists face beyond fame, and the systemic forces impacting Black men in America. From shedding light on the exploitation of artists to sharing dreams of creating generational wealth, Banner’s wisdom is both inspiring and unapologetically real. Don’t miss this deep dive into his perspective on hip-hop, Black unity, family, and the spiritual journey of becoming a better man. | Visit: www.bigfactspod.com | Follow: @BigFactsPodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:41 Yes, we got him here. David Banner. It's on Big Bank. David Banner, David Banner. Can's all Big Bang. David Banner. David Banner. Hey, can I say something before we start out, man? Please. I want to say how proud I am for all y'all, man. I watched all y'all on the bar, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You looking good. You down on it, man. And I just been watching how your perspective, man, and your mind has been evolving over time, bro. Like, and for you to do that in front of people, those people that come from the background that we come from, bro, they're not comfortable with that. And that's real manhood, and I'm proud of y'all. I appreciate it. And man, I'm looking at the studio, I'm watching.
Starting point is 00:04:16 You know we in a different space. You can't take people like we used to. I ain't no fucking, you know what I'm saying? Do I have permission to go? Right, right. Touch the ground. Yes, I got full permission. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It's on tape. And Spring, you know, bro, me and you have like talks, two hour talks, hour talks, every time we get an opportunity to about family. It's crazy because this thing went viral about me wanting to be married and children. Bro, have I always not wanted that. And the crazy thing, I put a song out on the guide box that said, marry me.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I've always wanted that, you know what I'm saying? And bro, to watch you all's evolution. And I just want y'all to know what took me so long to come on the show was that I realized that artists have started selling out in a different way that people don't know. People think selling out is selling out to the man or that has something to do with money.
Starting point is 00:05:25 But they have reduced artists. People, your music is free now. They don't even think music is worth it. No matter how much money you spend on music, how dope it is, they wanna know who you having sex with. They wanna know who your mama is, where you are at all times. And we-
Starting point is 00:05:42 Right, you are doing with your baby daddy. Right. And we giving it up on different platforms and not even know it. Like, everywhere that you go, everything that you're doing as a black man in America, I refuse to do that. So it's like, think about it, man.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Think about this. Y'all really think about this. You can't name too many things that's connected with hip hop that has something positive to say about hip hop. Think about it. Rappers don't like rappers. Hip hop blogs don't like rappers.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Like don't know, it's crazy. Most people in the world don't like rappers no more. It's like it has turned in on itself and our people have allowed that. So for you all to stay who you are, man, and to be successful, to have big TVs, watch big facts at the same time. I just want y'all to know I'm proud of y'all. Yes. So look, I want to start this off right,
Starting point is 00:06:32 because even though like your household name and a worldwide figure and your philanthropy like eminently precedes you, there may be some people out there that aren't familiar with your background and where you come from. imminently precede you. There may be some people out there that aren't familiar with your background and where you come from. So I want you to just talk about how it was like growing up in Jackson as a black boy, black man,
Starting point is 00:06:55 because I know a lot of people have seen like different movies like Mississippi burnings and you know, the likes of that sort, but they don't really know what it was actually like to be down there and experience That in real time being in Mississippi was probably the most beautiful thing that could have happened to me in my life One thing that I tell people all the time is my favorite type of white person on This planet is a white person from Mississippi all I ever wanted from anybody Black white alien is the truth
Starting point is 00:07:27 Can I say fuck of course? And so like in Mississippi if a white boy don't like you He'll try to kill you If the white boy like you he'll die for you So at least you know where you stand. Like the white boy in the hood in Mississippi, you know where he stand though. It ain't no question.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And there's certain lines that you don't go across. And I would rather that, that you sit next to a white boy for 40 years, and then they soaking your pension up, and then you retired and you don't have no money, and he's been smiling your your face for 40 years So like Mississippi was the most beautiful thing in the world because it gave me this harsh truth There's some people especially some white people didn't see it to Trump. You know what I'm saying? Like I remember
Starting point is 00:08:18 I remember being on CNN and This white lady was talking and she was like, yeah, it's been a bad couple of months I like that's been about five honey for blood It's been a five hundred You know, so for me Mississippi was beautiful Mississippi taught me about all the things that people front on about the south People talk all of that stuff, but they want more land. They want healthy food. Look at how they plan with our food.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You feel what I'm saying? Now people wanna be in Mississippi. They wanna be in South Carolina. They wanna move to Tulsa, Oklahoma. You know what I'm saying? They wanna move like they give us these wrong pictures about Africa, but that's what every continent on this planet
Starting point is 00:09:04 is trying to move in and trying to co-op. these wrong pictures about Africa, but that's what every continent on this planet is trying to move in and trying to co-op. All of the places where our people are indigenous, where the most sun is and the most land, the healthiest people, them fine women. You know what I'm saying? What you know what I'm saying? I like them big, fine women.
Starting point is 00:09:21 You know what I'm saying? And so it's like Mississippi, and Farrakhan told me this, like Mississippi is, you even look at the Mississippi River running, it's like the Nile River in Africa, like that's the closest thing that you can get to the motherland. And so, you know, that's gonna be the place, that's gonna be co-opted the most. You know, that's why I look at, you know, that's gonna be the place, that's gonna be co-opted the most.
Starting point is 00:09:45 You know, that's why I look at, you know, Mississippi and South Carolina as those places. And if you think about, if you think about the Civil War, if them other folks would have won the Civil War, Mississippi would have probably been, you know, or Jackson probably would have been LA, and, you know, New York or what the East Coast would have been considered as would have been in South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And if you look at the two main slave ports, you feel me? Man, that's what I was just getting ready to say. From an ancestral standpoint. Right. Yes. Right, and so for me, unless your parents came from the islands, you gotta give it up to that islands, you got to give it up to that. Yes. You got to give it up to that.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And I'm so proud that God gave me an opportunity, especially being someone who cares about black people the way that I care about them. And I'll tell you all this. I had to realize something. And it's almost to the contrary of what we talked about before. But I think it's important for me to say. to the contrary of what we talked about before, but I think it's important for me to say, if our people knew how to treat us,
Starting point is 00:10:51 and I'm speaking about big facts and David Banner, right, if they knew how to treat us, then nine times out of 10, they would know how to treat themselves. And if they knew how to treat themselves, then they wouldn't need us. So a lot of times we get upset because our people don't understand, but that's why we were sick.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And that is part of our job, but not to the point where we put our lives and our legacy and detriment. I learned that from you, sir. Yes. Got to protect our lives. Big facts, Jack! They got to start with us. We love our people.
Starting point is 00:11:20 We love the people, but you got to take care of yourself or you won't be here. You play Jesus and wonder why you always end up on the cross It ain't your job to say the world. You're supposed to get a message At this point at this point man, you know, oh we like to pop it on big face too So before we would get there man, let them know obviously you've had a massive amounts of hit records. You know what I'm saying? Like a hit records from a production standpoint. I think they're they
Starting point is 00:11:49 girl healed the world. Yeah. Massive. You know what I'm saying? You, you, you've been on the big screen killing it. You know what I'm saying? A war worthy, you know what I'm saying? We're going to get into that for sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:12:01 For sure. But, but, but, you know, for everything that all of us have accomplished here, I'm not gonna lie to myself and say. I'm not gonna lie to myself and say. I'm not gonna lie to myself and say. I'm not gonna lie to myself and say. I'm not gonna lie to myself and say. I'm not gonna lie to myself and say. I'm not gonna lie to myself and say. But you know, for everything that all of us have accomplished here, like, it's like when you wake up now, like, what drives you, like, what's your sense of purpose? What's the next thing? Like, what motivates you now?
Starting point is 00:12:16 I don't have children, bro. I want a family. I really believe that the reason why we're put on this earth is to replenish God's Just just replenish God and I think if we wanted to see God face It would be all of our faces together and I believe that I failed if I don't allow my DNA to continue Like how am I ever come back the way that we really come back is through our seed through our children Yeah, you know and I had a saying bro
Starting point is 00:12:47 I've chased my dream so long and so hard then when I finally raised my head I realized that ran off and left everything else Hmm. Yeah, cuz think about it if you got a hundred percent, right? That's all you got is a hundred percent and you get ninety percent to your hustle You're gonna be a shitty father. You're gonna be shitty friend. You're gonna be a shitty father. You're gonna be a shitty friend. You're gonna be a shitty everything else, bro. That's why most of the people that we say that we like, you know, basketball players and rappers
Starting point is 00:13:14 and all that kind of shit, they assholes, because think about it. Most basketball players don't know how to fight because they was always shooting a fucking jump shot. Unless they, you know, was up, down, they get a rebound or something, then they was always shooting the fucking jump shot unless they you know was up down they get a rebound so they make a most of the time they don't know how to be most of the time they don't know how to be good fathers and good friends because they were always on the basketball court I was always under the drum machine I was always hustling nobody ever noticed this
Starting point is 00:13:40 think about my 20 year run bro I was producing at a very high level. Think about it. Chris Brown, Maroon 5, Lil Wayne. People don't even talk about that shit. When you put your actual name, David, David, David Banner before a beat. Think about that shit, right? Production, my own albums,
Starting point is 00:14:01 at the level that I was putting out. I don't know if it's still the the highest paying Deal that wasn't a label deal came to David Banner. So you got to think about me as David Banner, right? then politics Then acting is speaking. I never fucking took a break. Yeah, I don't take a break until I literally had a physical breakdown And what's crazy about that? I don't give a fuck. They don't. So what I realized, man, is that you can't make anything your God but God. And I ran so fucking hard that I looked up, bro, and had talked to my friends. And I realized that I had to go apologize to my friends because I used my fame as an excuse to go to church.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And I had to go to church. And I had to go to church. And I had to go to church. And I had to go to church. And I had to go to church. And I had to go to church. And I had to go to church. And I had to go to I realized that I had to go apologize to my friends because I used my fame as an excuse for them to be there when I had time. And that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah. You know, and because we successful people play that game with you and smile in front of you, but that shit don't feel good. You know, I didn't have a sustainable relationship. Couldn't, I was always in the studio or on set. And you got to think when you shoot movies, you living, you know, maybe in Arizona for two months.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And then I'm in New York for two months, in New Zealand for two or three months, depending on how big the production is, right? And then still trying to learn that shit at the same time, because we don't understand the business of the game. So having to learn the business by million dollar mistakes, and you knew bro, I was homeless. I was sleeping in my van when I got my deal.
Starting point is 00:15:35 So having to learn that shit at the same time, you gotta watch the accountant, and accountant is with the lawyer, and the lawyer is playing with management, and they all running you in circles. Yeah. Now we don't have sustainable. We don't have sustainable so-called fame. So it ain't like you don't get another opportunity at that level to make that mistake the same way. So you can even take advantage of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:00 You know, it's not, there's one thing you just said you was were saying about just like planting the seed and everything. It kind of, I be having my mixed opinions about the whole LeBron thing and his son, like let your son kind of do his own thing. But do you think that that's how we should do it? Maybe more as black people, like just put our seeds straight in position? Never tis them as they call it.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Hell yeah. Hell yeah well yeah yeah because every other race of people do it we don't know yeah so funny keep it right yeah no no you go ahead bro yeah no I'm just saying that's how they keep it right that's how they keep it by passing it out you train for this from when you could this what I know is that handicapping them I guess that that was my mindset at mindset You have to see Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:49 Like me personally not not a cuz I love I'm sorry I don't necessarily look at it as a handicap, but I do see where it could be viewed as What's the word I'm looking for like I, I don't wanna say not giving them a chance to choose their own destiny, but it's kind of like, like not allowing them to be free. Part of like, part of like people's problem is we give ignorant people too many choices.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yep. Like, you know, they don't fucking know nothing. They don't fucking know nothing. You don't know nothing. What you do is, because what ends up happening, think about all of us. My dad, my dad was, he was the meanest motherfucker on this planet.
Starting point is 00:17:34 99%, 98% of the stuff my dad told me was true. Thank you. He just didn't understand how, because he had been through so much shit. But every, like, I say, if, people ask me all the time, if you could talk to your dad What would you tell him and I would either tell him you right or I'm sorry fuck Like all of that knowledge all of that information
Starting point is 00:17:54 We usually don't start listening until we about their age and then we pissed it all away See that's what America tries to get us to do if that's the case then The president would be younger see America lets us do certain things so that we can stay in these boxes But they don't do that in the army. They don't do that in the things that mean the most to them Yeah, Will Smith said it the best. He said that it is my job He said he said is my job to my he said, he said it's my job to, he said I am the bow, my child is the arrow. It is my job to point my child in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Now as my child gets older, they have the power to wield the wind and the wind can take them where they wanna go. But I even think about my dad in music. It's like my dad didn't, my dad said, boy, you should be a banker. But I was reading on, in the third grade, I was reading on a junior level,
Starting point is 00:18:50 I mean a junior college level. When I was in kindergarten, I could count to a million. Like easy. And so my dad was like, you're smart, you should be a banker. But he didn't understand until I brought a $70,000 check home from From an independent distributor and until my mama told him like that boy make $10 a CD
Starting point is 00:19:17 He get a CDs for a dollar. He stand on he make I said I was selling at the time like Seven to eight to nine CDs an hour. Yeah, my mom she did the numbers for my dad show my dad. He made more money than you He was like for real and so when I brought that $70,000 check home guess what my dad told me my dad literally said this What the fuck you doing why are you standing here? I was like, what do you mean? He was like you make this much money wrapping. Why fuck you ain't rapping now? Rap! You a dead serious. And that's the same way we look at our children in the video games. T-Pain the monkey that T-Pain made playing video games. He told me, he was like, big bruh, I don't even know if I should do this music shit no more. It don't make sense monetarily. I can sit in my house doing something I love and people just want to watch me do it?
Starting point is 00:20:04 You'd be a fool if you fucking didn't. You'd be a damn fool. something I love and people just want to watch me do it. You'd be a fool if you fucking didn't. You'd be a damn fool. So to answer your question directly, if we have the opportunity to put our children, think about this. If we start here, right, and we make it here, but we get an opportunity to put our children or at least allow them to start here
Starting point is 00:20:27 Why would they want to do something else when they already know right here? Right the problem is and I actually research this I did research on this The problem is is that we take the pain from our children The pain is what made all of us who we are. Every one of us. You don't take the pain away from the children, you take danger from them. And there's difference. Like I was just watching this, Kenny Smith was talking about one of the biggest families that's in plumbing. Before any of the children can get any of the higher level money. They got to be a plumber first.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And the father told them, you need to know every aspect of plumbing so that if anything happened, then you know how to do it. If I, if the plumbing go out in our bathroom right now, you know how to at least do that. So what you do is you don't take the pain they gotta go through the shit and if they too lazy to go through the pain then fuck they little ass. They deserve to suck. I told you the new me. Even if it's my child if you a lazy fuck you deserve it. Your sister gonna get it then. Or some other kid that deserve it. We'll just put some in the contract that said some of their money got a revert back to your
Starting point is 00:21:47 Children and hopefully they won't be lazy fucks. Yeah What they say in the Bible spare the rod quickly, Virginia Yep, spare the rod quicken the whip quicken the child to the grave or spare the rod and what spoil the child Yep, you gotta put that rod on there Hmm that's frowned upon either well fuck like when you when you understand like even even I sound like your kid This is number your key and call and say you you mentally abused in there You're mentally abusing them. Like, come pick your ass up, get your little ass in there. For being a parent.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I been having nightmares about that. Like, these kids different these days, man. Bro, the kids are different because we allow other people to raise our children. See, think about this. We are some few people on this planet who allow the same people. I say this, and I say this about religion I say this about business. They didn't want you on earth. Why would they give you the key to heaven? The number thing that makes a powerful America is family So why why would they let you build a good family? They did everything in slavery to keep you away from a family That's the main thing that they did. So why would they let you really raise your kids? Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:23:09 so if you if you if Your kid depends more on the system than they do on you then who controls your children? This is not hard what the system is America I'm saying what you feel like what you feel like the system stand on? White supremacy. It's easy. In which way? And just making sure that white people stay
Starting point is 00:23:33 in a position of power and are able to control resources, things, and people. So do you think they deliberately tear down power for black men? Of course. Why wouldn't they? They always have. That's, see, I don't talk about things I think about.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Just go look up Quintel Pro. What is it, girl? Quintel Pro. Like, the government did it. You can go right now and look at files and the government will send it to you. Yeah. Patrice Lumumba's family sent me a whole government file that was released by the American government talking about all the things that they did Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,
Starting point is 00:24:05 um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, I see it. Oh, y'all, I told him I was gonna come on here. It's political. I said, I'm not gonna do it. He didn't tell me that. I'm gonna talk about fighting. He didn't tell me that either.
Starting point is 00:24:31 No, but he said that's important to him. It's just important to him. But no, it's government files. Look at what they did to Malcolm and Martin. One of the things that we have to start learning, and it's the same thing with cops killing black kids. Until we convince our people that it's a systemic problem, we take everything by case.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, this is a case, this is just a case. No, this shit is happening together. This is spiderweb, right? But what I'll tell y'all is this, man. I am at a point in my life where I don't even think about white people I don't I don't think about nothing but us we spend so much time focused on other people that all we got to do just think about this I say this all the time if everybody right now that tuned in to Big Facts went to DavidBanner.com
Starting point is 00:25:22 right now and bought anything I got something from $1 to 250 if Everybody how many followers I get about approximately come on a thousand social meatball collectively damn their million collective Yeah, so if everybody paid one dollar I could make a movie with a million dollars If everybody bought the God box, that's $250. Look at how much money that is. Collective, really a collective movement of people who are just not freeloading.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Most people just want our information, and we gotta go to sponsors in order to get our money. But you getting it directly from us. How dare people want music, and you give all of your money to Spotify? I spent $1.5 million on positive rap music. Don't nobody give a fuck about that shit. They give they money to Apple.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And think about it, we give them to tech companies. I wouldn't even be as emotional if we were given to music companies. Most of these companies, music is the last thing that they care about Don't Apple pay just a little and that's the thing black folks care about the most and then you won't give your money The people don't give a fuck That if music is the thing that they care about the least think about they sell computers, yeah Right Think about it, they sell computers. Yeah. And technology. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but y'all running the money over there to Apple.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Right. And they don't even give a fuck about the joke. But we give all of our money in music, meaning the world of black folk. Yeah. And we spend frivolously. That's what I told y'all before. We give our constituency to people
Starting point is 00:26:57 who treat us more like elite white men. What you think about artists selling their catalogs then? Like selling like like cashing up Oh, I don't I don't really care like to be honest with you I don't care about what no other person does like to me that's okay Like if a person want to sell they they catalog they want to sell they whatever they want to say Would you sell yours? Oh, no, okay. It's hard to say what you would do to a person presented to you. And the difference between me,
Starting point is 00:27:28 that's sort of like how I told people, you know I'm the biggest proponent for independence, right? But in my particular case, signing the deal wasn't nothing better than that for me because I had a bigger play. I knew I wanted to be a movie star. I knew that if I was the fame fame, I could get the money.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Money ain't never been no problem with me. Like money like leaves on trees. That's why I dress the way that I do. That's why I act the way that I do. I can be free because I know how to go and get money. I don't always like to do some of the things that I have to do in order to get money. But the truth is I know what people want from me. You know, I knew that folks would go like Missouri Slim.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah, and I could do that without feeling like my soul was being split, because I'm active. But like, that's where the fuck we come from. You know, and some of that stuff wasn't on that page. That page from my uncle. From my cousin. You know what I'm saying? That's what we come from.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And we gotta stop letting other people mold that. Like, it's so funny, man, how the shit that we do the best, people won't even just let us do that. Like, leave me the fuck alone, you can't tell me nothing about it. I made like a pill be clear You feel me? It's not always and Tasha Smith taught me this is my responsibility Y'all cuz those are uncles our cousins our hearts and I watch how
Starting point is 00:28:59 We tear each other down It's so crazy bro. Like all of us got friends cousins or ourselves that we didn't hustle We got cousins that that it worked on our aunts aunts that are cheating on our uncles, right? And we have accepted them for who they are, but we can't accept our people for who they are and show some fucking humanity It's almost like bro If you look at a lot of those pictures when black folks was getting home You had black folks on the side looking at this shit the same way white Well, that was they get it tiny picnic pick a little Hello
Starting point is 00:29:31 That's true. Yeah, that's true. That's what they tell you true. That was entertainment You tell me you tell me most and most slave hands What color did the people have on think about? White What color did the people have on? Think about it. They had on white. You want to know why? It just fucking got out of church. That's what they did out of church. And then the thing, I went to a hanging expose bro where they, it was a museum exhibit. Bro, do you know a lot of those pictures bro? Guess what they were? Fucking postcards from the United States post office dog
Starting point is 00:30:06 We have always been a fucking entertain That's why they don't want us to have but how the fuck you gonna tell us not to read a book about something you did to us I Can understand if it was something we did to you, but you fucked over me What they say no reason You beat my family, you beat the shit out of my family. You don't want me to read a book about it? What book they saying they'll read? Oh, bro, they got a whole list of history books that they try to get out of schools. Oh, yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Oh, it's bad. And we worried about beef. We worried about bread. They still gonna be on the internet though, right? Still gonna be on the internet or just out of school? Yeah, but you know, like in schools, it's a part of, well, previously, it's been a part of the total curriculum
Starting point is 00:30:44 of the history of the United States. But what they're trying to do is basically whitewash that particular section of the history so that it doesn't, it's not taught as curriculum so that people younger than whatever age that has already graduated and all that kind of stuff aren't aware of the shit that we've been through Previously that's called they try to what we don't understand niggas were created We did not come off those boats So we as indigenous people were not niggas niggas were experiment that white people would have never thought that would have worked so good
Starting point is 00:31:20 Mrs. Is just like crackers, bro It ain't nothing ignorant motherfuckers, bro And in our cases is not ignorant because we chose to Ignorance because it was kept away from us You would hang from a tree if you knew how to read you feel I'm saying because knowledge is knowledge It knowledge is true freedom if we knew how to escape we would have a lot of times we didn't stay because we didn't know the grounds And that's the thing about all of this shit.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Music, contracts, all of it. You are a slave to what the fuck you don't know. So if you don't know that the reason why black people act that way got a lot to do with other people and not you, then maybe you wouldn't act like that if you knew that medicine and mathematics was created by black folks, you wouldn't think that shit was hard. You created mathematics. So how the fuck is it hard? You built pyramids. How the fuck is it hard? Facts. You know. Big old facts. When I get big fat, big fat, big fat. What's up, y'all? So on a recent episode of Quest Love Supreme, my co-hosts, I'm P. Bill and Sugar Steve and I sat down with the king at rock of the Beastie Boys.
Starting point is 00:32:31 We talked about the early days of the Beasties, thinking for records around the globe, and how he makes music these days in a cabin in the mountains. Oh, and this jewel. I was trying to start a band in the 90s called the Nasal Tongues. Me and Q-Tip and MC Milk and Be Real.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey y'all, I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, host of Therapy for Black Girls, and I'm thrilled to invite you to our January Jumpstart series for the third year running. All January, I'll be joined by inspiring guests who will help you kickstart your personal growth with actionable ideas and real conversations. We're talking about topics like building community and creating an inner and outer glow. I always tell people that when you buy a handbag, it doesn't cover a childhood scar. You know, when you buy a jacket, it doesn't reaffirm what you love about the hair you were told not to love. So when I think about beauty, it's so emotional,
Starting point is 00:33:31 because it starts to go back into the archives of who we were, how we want to see ourselves, and who we know ourselves to be and who we can be. So a little bit of past, present, and future, all in one idea, soothing something from the past. And it doesn't have to be always an insecurity. It can be something that you love. All to help you start 2025 feeling empowered and ready.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Listen to Therapy for Black Girls starting on January 1st on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sup, y'all. This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimini here.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. ["History Records"] Flash, slam, another one gone. Fast, bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone, bash bam, another one gone, The cracker to bat and another one gone, The tip of the cap, there's another one gone.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it! And if you get with me, did you know, did you know, I wouldn't give up my seat? Nine months before Rosa, he was Claudette Goldman.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records, because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's John, also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan, or Joho. And we are the BlackFatFilm Podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh chat this year we have had some of our favorite
Starting point is 00:35:47 people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey show, Angela Carras and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Fam podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Oh, I know that's right. or whatever you get your podcast, girl. Ooh, I know that's right. Hey, y'all. I'm Maria Fernanda Diaz. My podcast, When You're Invisible, is my love letter
Starting point is 00:36:12 to the working class people and immigrants who shaped my life. I get to talk to a lot of people who form the backbone of our society, but who have never been interviewed before. Season two is all about community, organizing, and being underestimated. All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, this sucks, let's do something about it. I can't have more than $2,000 in my bank account
Starting point is 00:36:37 or else I can't get disability benefits. They won't let you succeed. I know we get paid to serve you guys, but like, be respectful. We're made out of the same things. Bone, body, blood. It's rare to have black male teachers. Sometimes I am the lesson and I'm also the testament. Listen to When You're Invisible as part of the MyCultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, so let me ask you something. And I heard you quoting out the Bible. So how accurate
Starting point is 00:37:12 do you think the Bible is, if it came from them too? Oh man, I'm not going to get off of the black folks in the Bible. I'm learning. I'm learning. I'm the old son. Say less. You I will tell you this though. Go ahead. I will tell you this. Why would you trust a man that didn't love you on earth to give you the key to heaven? Why would you trust the youngest race on this planet about God? We were the one that taught them about monotheism. If you are going to say that to something, then if you care about God, God is supposed to be the thing that matters the most, then why
Starting point is 00:37:58 don't you go and read the original script and not how they translate it? White people have never touched anything on this planet and not corrupted and they will tell you that. History shows you that, their history shows you. Anywhere they touch, they have totally decimated the culture of those people. So you come from God, directly from God, even from a biblical standpoint,
Starting point is 00:38:22 when they were looking for Jesus, they went to find Jesus in the middle of a bunch of black folks. Right. So Jesus looked like you. So why would you go to a white person to find out something that you are? I'm not saying that Christianity is not the way, that's not my place.
Starting point is 00:38:36 But what I will say is that God is omnipotent. God is everything. How dare you let somebody who have taken everything from you give you the key to God? And I will say this I know what you tell Do as think about this drop the mic You think about this black people rains earth Indigenous people ran this earth. Indigenous people ran this earth.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Whatever you want to say we are Moors, we argue over the things that don't matter to us. Like, whatever we are African, whatever you say we are, we ran this whole earth. As soon as we came in contact with whatever that they say That we believe in yeah, yeah Yes So I think that uses pain to direct you So if you stay in a constant feeling of pain Let's not tell you to move in a different fucking direction But I don't blame you
Starting point is 00:39:45 Ever God made you a sentient thinking being Move in a different fucking direction But I don't blame you Ever God made you a sentient thinking being So God wants you to challenge him or her or it or you'll be like a fucking dog wouldn't be no need You just be programmed like a computer Yeah, but like it ain't right and it don't feel right. I'll show y'all this Yeah, cuz I got a question I need to ask like watch this. Well, I got follow today Kids I believe that the closest thing to God a
Starting point is 00:40:17 children And I'm asking a question What do children do when they go to church and what else So I wouldn't have had Well then whatever, I'm not saying nothing. I'm just asking questions. I'll say it. What's your question? Not let him follow up, and then I got another question. All right. Fight Night on Peacock, tune in. Yeah. Yeah, make sure y'all go get that.
Starting point is 00:40:54 That's it. Hey, I'm going to say, like, where you think we come from originally, like? Just people. So humanity, where you think humanity come from? So this is what I think. Um, this is my opinion I think that we all came From one place that's closest to the sun
Starting point is 00:41:13 um And As we wander away from that place The further we went towards cold areas think about it we Bob God made us to evolve so That's when we started mutating You know in the club in the further that we got away from that place depending on how far it was away from the Sun
Starting point is 00:41:40 That's how our body adjusted to survive So I really think that we are the original people. And I'm not saying that something else didn't happen. I read up a study on the Anunnaki and different stuff like that, but I have different perspectives. But just if we're keeping it here and not bringing in any other things. Just the further that we got away from whatever we consider the motherland is, the further we got away from the sun, the further we got away from good land,
Starting point is 00:42:14 good things, good people, the more harsh their environment became, the more harsh we became as a people. Think about it, the people that, like if you study people people you take away the emotions Most of these people who are the most treacherous they live in the cold Today got time to play with you Don't if they don't play at certain times
Starting point is 00:42:45 Right here in America coldest places is cold for real. Yeah. Motherfuckers, they gotta get it. Motherfuckers like fighting with grandmama for some money. Sell it good. Doesn't need to hear that. But what I'm saying is that, you know, we evolved and to a certain degree, I guess we recessed in certain ways. So that's just my personal opinion. I'm a studier. I continue to study. But what I do wanna say is that we just gotta find a way to get back together.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I don't think there's gonna be a comb-by-y'all moment. I think you got too many types of black people I actually want to write a book about it. If you really look look at it we get emotional But this is America is a lot closer to the plantation and you think it is It's a lot of house niggas. I didn't know it was such thing as a yard niggas that was right in between You know Look at the yard niggas ain't quite made it to the house but he's a little bit better in the field nigga Yeah the yard nigga The yard nigga ain't quite made it to the house but he's a little bit better than the field Yeah, yeah man it's cold
Starting point is 00:43:50 You look at the music business Yard niggas are basically brown skinned niggas They're not light skinned niggas or dark skinned niggas, they're like air nugs Yeah I'm serious, I'm not joking You know what I'm saying, you ain't quite that executive feel out here But you're not necessarily an A-turn type shit I'm not joking. You know what I'm saying? You ain't quite that executive
Starting point is 00:44:05 skill out here. But you're not necessarily an A-turn type shit. Which turns your nose up. You know what I'm saying? Like most of this shit bro, we fighting to be up under people that we don't have to be. Like we got this shit y'all and we didn't really fuck with each other. Think about just us sitting down talking even though it's for big taxes. It's for the show Look at how much came out just right here. Yeah, you know, I mean
Starting point is 00:44:32 It may still hurt some other things that I'm doing All right, you gotta be yourself How hard is it to try to wear a hat that you can't fit? You know saying like basically, you know how you feel and it's really burning through your soul You don't want to see it because the things you got gonna how hard is that to do for you? It's hard because I've done it over and over again I built myself up built myself up around my fucking mouth and told now and people don't help you build it back up Yeah, talk all that shit. What is it? Yeah, you know David Banner go talk that shit that they feel so they everybody won't Jesus
Starting point is 00:45:12 They don't want to their own. I think the story of Jesus was Jesus came down to show you how to bury your cross I'm gonna do it I'm coming the same way that you come in the same way I'm gonna show you how to walk on water remember the meal walking on water with Jesus and they start down and they start Do they do what they start singing right? Yeah, Jesus I'm gonna come out here and show you Black kids in America are our cross the bed. Ain't nobody else is cross the bed. Right? I know politicians gonna save you right? No one peel. That's gonna help you get out there bear that cross with you out there and bear that cross with you. You have to get out there and do it yourself.
Starting point is 00:45:44 You feel what I'm saying? So like, what I believe man is that, it's a lot of times I realize, God didn't tell me to save nobody. That's God's job. God's supposed to save you. I'm just supposed to get a message to keep moving. If I continuously have a harvest,
Starting point is 00:46:02 and I tell people this all the time, if I had one piece of bread, and I gave everybody in this room a piece of bread, right? I'm gonna be pissed off tomorrow. But if I'm selfish and build my bread up and create a bread store, going, start being selfish enough to go and harvest it and plant it and then build it up, then I can give with the love and the grace of God.
Starting point is 00:46:28 But you don't have to be selfish for a long time to build it up. Well, you can get to that point. Our ego make us feel like we actually can save people. Think about this, bro, consistently. For the last 15, well, last 10 years, I've given my whole life to just helping people That's it
Starting point is 00:46:46 And I've used music to get me in a position where I can help people and then I get Everything and I'm by myself and have to build it up myself. We didn't have any conversations, you know me Motherfuckers came and checked on me when I was down when I was fucked up No matter how I didn't help hundreds of thousands of people ain't nobody fucking help me when I was fucked up no matter how I didn't help hundreds of thousands of people ain't nobody fucking help me when I was down so if God keeps showing you how people will do you then I'm the fucking fool to continue going down that road and I can't pray I can't ask God and I would even reveal to me I'm the fucking fool y'all ain't a fool from taking from me because I keep giving Then nobody tell me to do that shit
Starting point is 00:47:25 And I started noticing when it's some revolutionary shit when it's time to get some shit popping They come get David Banner. I got a very specific friend who makes millions and millions of dollars And I had to tell him I like bro. Call me when Disney call You know, I just got a call me when it's time to get out on the streets But people people know and think about it even our people We know who to go to who really stand for I who gonna show up in our neighborhoods when we need them, too But when it's time to give when them people got projects We don't give with that same energy that we run and ask them for help with we don't damn
Starting point is 00:48:02 And until we start putting it on the everyday ordinary men it ain't no football players fault it ain't no basketball players fault it ain't no politicians fault it is our fault as a collector and until the everyday average person uh realizes their responsibility it's easy for you to tell this man who's sitting over here on big facts that he should get half of his check for something but you got 50 cent you won't give a fucking quarter Malcolm Mark, we just talked about that. Here we P new name them all I Think about it all the people suffer This situation even even even even more intense being from the south you didn't amplify it. Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:46 only because Even because We still have those thought processes on You know, even if you look at hip-hop the way that people look at rappers and who the dope is rapper It ain't really got nothing to do with lyrics. You got really got to do addiction The more you speak like an English white man The better that you control the way that you use your addiction How they look at you as a as a dope rapper high fuck
Starting point is 00:49:23 High in the fuck juvenile and considered the fuck Juvenile ain't considered as one of the best rappers? How in like, come on bro, like if you don't talk like this and spit your verses just like this, then they don't consider you to be dope. Like even Southern rappers, the closest you sound to being an English white man men is how they and they judge and they judge your they judge they judge you even by lines lines that don't even fucking exist like like for me bro being from the south means everything to me because one thing that David Banner has shown and I thank God for this that if I can make it anybody on this planet can make it do you know what people say to me from I'm talking about some of the smallest
Starting point is 00:50:13 places on this earth if your black ass can do it for what fuck you did it you were sleeping in that van yeah you built a studio in your fucking van and you can make it then I can get off my ass and do it, too Right. That's why God put this load on us, bro That's why I'm so fucking proud of y'all So you ought to be able to take your platform speak like we speak That was one of the reasons why I said I want you to go to jazzy jazz Retreat because that's the only thing that I didn't feel I felt like I was still fighting
Starting point is 00:50:46 For that respect that you actually don't need if we get our people and we can We can group our southern fans cuz our people still buy CD from your ass. It's almost gone But you go to some of these small towns. They're still cop a CD At the gas station. Yep, they still have them gas stations. And that's real money and real power, hand in the fucking hand. So look, I have a question about a situation that was brought to my attention earlier this year.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Being that you are from Jackson and from that area, what is your take on the 215 bodies that turned up behind the prison in Hines County? Um, like, those type of questions are hard to answer and they're hard to answer because I don't care where it is. If it's 250 black bodies dead people, you know, I care right everybody knows the answer If you know me, you know What is happening is is you have to be careful what you say because now especially when I say when hip-hop news People are looking for you to say one thing to get a small sound bite from right? I wouldn't be I wouldn't be sitting the reason why I'm sitting here is because you know I care.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Right. And the fact that it's from Mississippi or happening in Mississippi, I got a tattoo on my back. I care a thousand more. Right. But the problem is, is what is the everyday average person willing to do? Right. Because every time I run and put myself on that cross and say let's go, let's go
Starting point is 00:52:25 But real revolution comes from the street up The only thing that we supposed to be is a mouthpiece for what the streets really feel And the streets have access to us and give us opportunity and the way that they show us that they care is they are constituents with us and so We are going to make sure that you're powerful so that when we need you, then we can use you, but we don't do that no more. Nah, these niggas will leave you out here, man,
Starting point is 00:52:51 let you get crucified. Yeah. Go on, on, on. And then call you stupid. That nigga dumb as fuck, bruh. Talk about this. The people are supposed to be essentially the foundation. Talk about this, because you don't show up,
Starting point is 00:53:02 but then when you do show up and you get crucified be like, man, that nigga was stupid. You suck, man. You right. You right. Bro, I did the greatest example of that, and I'm going to directly answer your question. People tell you, don't cap, don't cap, don't cap, don't cap, don't cap, don't cap, don't cap, don't cap.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Well, then if I don't cap, then you don't know what the fuck I'm doing. And then you turn around and say I ain't doing shit. So I gotta cap. If I don't cap some, then you ain't gonna know what the fuck I'm doing. Because I've always been silent with the shit that I do. But then you turn around and be like, well I'm the reason why this happened.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I'm the reason why this happened. I'm the reason why, and think about this. We talked about this. From high school, dog, have I not been the same person? Yeah, I was revolutionary high school I was SGA president at Southern University. Yeah, I told him I focus at Southern There's a why you don't wear a tie because I wouldn't wear a tie I said, don't you think there's been enough ropes around black folks, man? Ah! Crooked 11, wasn't that rough music there? Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:04 For sure. Like a pimp. For sure. Look at that video, cut the music off. We ran the Q-Club's playing out of Mississippi. I threw the Confederate flag back at the Mother of the Cross. I still know my queens, but bitches, hit me to the game. Calax on 22.
Starting point is 00:54:17 God, I know that we pimp. God, I know that we wrong. God, I know I should talk about more than all of my songs. I know that you guys are listening. I know I'm here for a mission, but it's so hard to get them. A 22 inch rims though, Glisten. I said, and it was crazy because Rolling Stone said this was the dopest line of the year.
Starting point is 00:54:34 They said, I'm from a place where a flag means more than me. I didn't even mean it to be that dope, but not that I'm older. I look at the young men and be like, fuck, that's hard as shit. I'm from a place where a flag means more than me. Nah, that's real shit. The Confederate flag, you know that means racism. And I'm at a point in my life now,
Starting point is 00:54:55 white boy, where your Confederate flag? That's because if you think about it, that there is another aspect as it pertains to their culture. Yeah. Put it on the truck, put it on the truck put it on your draws But that shit means death to me And so if you're gonna use it as a simple a symbol of a synthesis of people of a conglomerate of people That shit means death to me. It means racism. It means slavery to me. It shouldn't be a state flag
Starting point is 00:55:21 It shouldn't represent nothing, but your races by the door personally Right, right that shouldn't be a problem and I'm gonna tell you what happened when I started making those flags for the box I don't know what I would do if I saw a white boy burn my flag So I said if I want them to respect my flag and what my flag stands on even though their flag my flag doesn't directly Affect them we haven't done anything in them, but still I have to give a human that type of respect Just keep your shit over there and yo, yo That's all I am Well, what else do you want out of it?
Starting point is 00:56:01 No, I don't want anything else. I was just I was just thinking like because it's like for me like what you want to do about this shit? No it's not like yeah that's true but it's just like for me like on a personal level like I know when I heard this shit shout out to my brother T Lewis um as soon as I heard it like my first thought was like I hit him like okay like okay so if I was to come down there and like try to figure out like what was going on and you know try to put together like an informational piece and this and that blah blah blah like how like what would be the best way to do it and then like he was telling me like the shit down there is so deep like you got to be careful where you poke around at tight shit.
Starting point is 00:56:45 So... Well, this is what I tell you, baby. Part of the problem is I don't think most people... I'm the type of person, I wanna do something. Me too. I really, really wanna do something. Yeah. Yeah, I wanna do something.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I can't say I wanna do something. I'm sick of all this fucking talking. That's one of the reasons why I stopped my podcast. Because I think it's too many niggas talking. And motherfuckers wanna talk about shit they know they're talking about. And they're like, I'm not talking about shit. I'm talking about shit. I'm talking about shit. I'm talking about shit. I'm talking about shit. I'm talking about shit. I'm talking all this fucking talk. Yes. What are the reasons why I stopped my podcast? I think it's too many niggas talking. Mm-hmm. And motherfuckers won't talk about shit. They know they don't know nothing about it could be a fucking
Starting point is 00:57:15 Nuclear it could be a nuclear explosion and everybody want to talk about Just Nuclear whatever fuck they don't know what they're talking about like everybody talking about shit like stay in your lane whatever your lane is be a genius at your lane but everybody talking and I honestly think we are at war now ain't the time to fucking be talking if you wasn't prepared that's what I'm telling you but haven't I not been talking about the same shit for 15 years? 20. Yeah. If motherfuckers didn't listen back then and I'm gonna listen now. What's the biggest weapon? Huh?
Starting point is 00:57:49 We have what's their biggest weapon against us? Oh, they brought me ourselves Bro to be honest with you. I feel like and I don't still wanna answer your question Yeah, I feel like I feel like we're butterflies and an empire, but they're playing with our food They're playing with our education. They're playing with our education. They're playing with our mind, with these phones. It's so much now. And the problem is that it's hard for us to even identify
Starting point is 00:58:18 who really on our side. Because a lot of these niggas is bigger cracker than any white boy you ever seen. Especially the niggas that are in position. You know, and the thing is that you got different type of negroes bro. Like, it's so hard man like, and it's hard for me as a person who believes that he's a revolutionary because unlike some white people, we gotta fight both sides.
Starting point is 00:58:48 We gotta fight niggas and crappers. At the same level too. At least white people can agree on the fact that we black people or indigenous people in general reproduce at a rate that if white people don't do something they don't die So they can at least agree on okay. We can have me you can fight later on But let me know that we against them right? A lot of us don't even know that we're and so it's hard for you to fight like totally fight for somebody
Starting point is 00:59:21 Nine times I tell look at you as a bigger in fight for somebody who nine times out here look at you as a bigger enemy. So let me ask you this real quick now because while, do you feel like most niggas that are in positions of power are puppets? I don't know because what I also realize is all niggas, all of them are not, I'm not going to say smart enough, they're noten enough to even know that they won't Some people some people were raised they family think about it our parents and this is a harsh reality I know Regina. This is a harsh reality, but most of our parents would get along dang niggas If they weren't they'd be dead. They'd be hanging from a tree somewhere
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah, so most of us we just ended up listening to hip-hop or we bumped into something that that's what hip-hop did for me. You know I tell us the.x all the time with Derrick X from Brand New Vians. I got hold to a Brand New Vians CD and stopped being poor. Read, you know Malcolm X got hooked to one of the books that they are taking out of the schools from the broader files, I read the broader files, changed my, I stole it from my cousin. And got conscious.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So a lot of these Negroes, they don't even know that they sell out. They don't even know, like some of these kids from some of these places, their parents beat their natural language out there. If they don't speak like they from England, you can't walk in the fucking house. So some of us do you know what? No, I got it.
Starting point is 01:00:55 No, most do I know what? No, the biggest breaker of slaves were other slaves. So a lot of times it was our parents that broke us. Yeah. And we don't even know that. Can I tell y'all a quick story? But that goes back to the whole puppet thing that I was talking about,
Starting point is 01:01:13 but I guess that's proven your point about a lot of the puppets don't even understand that they are one of the biggest roles in our detrimental puppetry. Well, a lot of niggas will say, a lot of niggas will feel like, okay, get woke and know that I'm fighting to fight against my people and these people, right?
Starting point is 01:01:33 What you just said. So then they put you on the side of being self like, fuck everybody, it's about me. But when you get to fuck everybody, niggas gonna feel like you're a sellout because you're not the nigga trying to be a revolutionary Trying to speak for the evening I can't say y'all niggas could that put me on the cross because I'm willing to go all the way
Starting point is 01:01:51 But y'all ready to turn your back and that's the answer you just taught me something you just taught me something right there That's why she was important watch this The person who says that they're willing to do everything for us think about how we look at a revolutionary this is the person who was willing to give everything was you ready to nut up ready to go out bad man rapper that did everything that y'all say rappers don't do let somebody kill him yep the one that came back to the hood, took care of the hood. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You let that happen. Yes. We supposed to make a public example, bro. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. It's us. That's when you hang the nigga. Well, that's the, that's the shit.
Starting point is 01:02:42 That's the simple, but. Be careful. What you mean? Take it out. No, take it out. All right. That's that's that's that's that's the simple that's the simple but Makes you want to tell everything that you know. Some shit ain't safe. Right, right. And that's part of the problem. If y'all notice, I had one of the top black lectures in the United States period. But you never see any video from any of my lectures.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Because what if we came up with the answer? Yeah. Two Clubs Clan ain't on Instagram. Right. any of my lectures because what if we came up with the answer? Yeah. Two Clubs clan ain't on Instagram. Right. But the government is conspiring against our children. That ain't on Facebook. Or YouTube.
Starting point is 01:03:34 So why do we want to do it in public? That shit's stupid. If you really, really got a plan and we really about to get some money here, go tell everybody. I ain't even know, I ain't tell nobody. That's what I'm saying. So if we really, that's what I'm saying. It gotta be a small group of us who really about moving and really about Cuz one of the things that I don't like that we do if you really study most of these cats look at what they do They tell you what they gonna do. They say it in a music
Starting point is 01:04:03 They said who they marry. I see what you love. Like most of these politicians look at who they were before they needed your vote. They didn't give a fuck about black folks. I'm not emotional about that shit. I don't care if it's an alien. Do y'all know some of the most revolutionary people in history Negotiated with the claim the clan didn't want black folks in America and some black folks didn't want to be in America So if you want to get three million dollars for me to get a boat You should really go back to Africa and I don't want to be in this bitch anything? We can talk!
Starting point is 01:04:46 Sign me up. We can talk, Jack! Right. So it ain't about Democrats or Republicans. I don't give a fuck about neither one of them. Right wing, left wing, they part of the same fucking bird. Mm-hmm. They say they need Elsa, spell what?
Starting point is 01:05:00 When I get big fat, big fat, big fat. What's up, y'all? So in a recent episode of Quest Love Supreme, my co-hosts, I'm B fat. Big fat, big fat. What's up, y'all? So in a recent episode of Quest Love Supreme, my co-hosts, Ampey Bill and Sugar Steve and I sat down with the king at rock of the Beastie Boys. We talked about the early days of the Beasties, thinking for records around the globe,
Starting point is 01:05:15 and how he makes music these days in a cabin in the mountains. Oh, and this jewel. I was trying to start a band in the 90s called the Nasal Tongues. Me and Q-Tip and MC Milk and Be Real. Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey y'all, I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, host of Therapy for Black Girls,
Starting point is 01:05:40 and I'm thrilled to invite you to our January Jumpstart series for the third year running. All January, I'll be joined by inspiring guests who help you kickstart your personal growth with actionable ideas and real conversations. We're talking about topics like building community and creating an inner and outer glow. I always tell people that when you buy a handbag, it doesn't cover a childhood scar. You know, when you buy a jacket, it doesn't reaffirm what you love about the hair you were told not to love. So when I think about beauty is so emotional because it starts to go back into the archives of who we were, how we want to see ourselves
Starting point is 01:06:16 and who we know ourselves to be and who we can be. So a little bit of past, present and future all in one idea, soothing something from the past. And it doesn't have to be always an insecurity. It can be something that you love. All to help you start 2025 feeling empowered and ready. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls starting on January 1st on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:06:39 What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone.
Starting point is 01:07:24 The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. A tip, but a cap, cause another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it.
Starting point is 01:07:43 And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, he was Claudette Goldman. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's John, also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan, or Joe Ho. And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Ooh, chat, this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross, and more. Make sure you listen to the BlackFatFem Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Alpha Podcast, or whatever you get your podcast, girl. Ooh, I know that's right.
Starting point is 01:08:43 I have a podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Oh, I know that's right. Hey y'all, I'm Maria Fernanda Diaz. My podcast, When You're Invisible, is my love letter to the working class people and immigrants who shaped my life. I get to talk to a lot of people who form the backbone of our society, but who have never been interviewed before. Season two is all about community, organizing, and being underestimated.
Starting point is 01:09:09 All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, this sucks, let's do something about it. I can't have more than $2,000 in my bank account or else I can't get disability benefits. They won't let you succeed. I know we get paid to serve you guys, but like, be respectful.
Starting point is 01:09:26 We're made out of the same things. Bone, body, blood. It's rare to have black male teachers. Sometimes I am the lesson and I'm also the testament. Listen to When You're Invisible as part of the MyCultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:09:48 I say somebody said nowhere. Do y'all know how many people are running for president and vice president, but they only allow you to see two debate? What if the Green Party got the fucking real plan? But we don't research. And if we really want to do something about politics, why don't we find somebody and be like, okay, I really, this is who we really, I really, really like big creeps. Yeah. I really like what that was. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Let's all pull our money together. Cause to me, politicians, ain't them with the money. If you invest the money, you're doing a whole bunch of talk Let's raise creep that's raising in the way and you come from our environment Yes, so policy. Yeah, not all of some just don't know nobody never been broke. So they don't really know how So why not if we really care about this people are so vested all of a sudden in politics, why not build your own person and get behind them? That makes all the sense right there. That makes all the sense.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Name one Democrat in recent history that ain't got passed anywhere without black folks. Okay, none of them? Not even when you black? Say what you gonna do for your own people? Come on now, I'm not telling you what to do, all I'm telling you to do is think. I say that after I election. I don't care what you think about me, just think. And make sure that you tune in to P-Con
Starting point is 01:11:16 and watch Fight Night. So should we keep that support rolling? Fight the niggas on their boys in the hood shit message. But all that is the answer to your question. Like you said, what is the system? All of this is the system. Nah, we got to. The music industry has a system.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Politics has a system. America has a system. It's various systems within one system. And they are created. You say what? You say what? You say what? They killed Missouri Slim anyway, dude.
Starting point is 01:11:47 No, but I will tell y'all, man. It's a harsh reality, man, to be a black man in America that care. That's what I realized, is that I thought, coming from the streets, coming from the environment that I came from, I really thought that I thought coming from the streets coming from the environment that I came from I really thought and I didn't give it for and when I get money It gave me the space to see how much I really do care
Starting point is 01:12:13 I love like people with everything that I got in my body I know when I'm from everything in my body and what I had to realize is that My therapist told me this. My therapist said, you always talking about the people, the people, the people. He said, were you the people? Are you black? I realized that I don't treat myself well.
Starting point is 01:12:37 And part of what I do is I project it on other people and try to help other people to make me feel better about myself. And the real truth is people treat make me feel better about myself. The real truth is people treat you the way you treat yourself. Think about the rappers who treat people like shit, like dog shit. Ain't that the ones we play their music the most? Yeah, some of that music is dope.
Starting point is 01:13:00 But most of it is more of a mentality. I got bored of you. You ain't shit. They really treat me like white people treat you. Elite white people. Think about this. And I got a little bit myself. But think about how most entertainers that are black, they don't even sell themselves. They sell an elite white car. Elite white clothes. I want to know you. I want to know what's inside of you, but they sell you everything But themselves and I figured out I figured out was do I found that I was doing the same shit
Starting point is 01:13:32 Think about as a woman People usually treat you the same way you treat yourself Whatever you insecure about yeah, that's what they key in on yeah, if you don't take no shit I know some women who some of the most dog ass motherfuckers on this planet, when she walk into the room, because she don't take that shit, she get the utmost respect. So the thing is that we as a people, we got to treat each other better. We got to be kinder.
Starting point is 01:14:00 The stuff that we do, bro, me and this man sometimes out of nowhere man I call him and be like bro as it pertains to being a father Now you my mentor cuz you had a kid before me bro. Talk to me. How is that shit bro? Like I'm nervous about this And we had a fucking conversations or anything bro. You call me and be like Banner man You know that system shit like talk to me about that shit, but we gotta do it on the phone. And you gotta be like, bro, it's some shit that I don't know. Well, this is what I do know,
Starting point is 01:14:31 let's figure this shit out together. But we talk about the shit in front of cameras, and as soon as we leave, the cameras cut off, we go back to you. We go back to you. You right? You right? You right?
Starting point is 01:14:42 You right? Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, man. Nah, man. I just, I just, I'm one of them niggas, man, that's stuck between trying to goddamn be on that cross for niggas, man, when the niggas already got a cross over here and they back you up for you.
Starting point is 01:14:55 You know what I'm saying? Like, you try to fight for everybody, bro, but at the end of the day, they want to hang you, too. So, what you do, you create your own little bubble man and create your own little family first. That's the only way. Now you create your family and then maybe they see, maybe people will see like, okay, that's what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:15:16 I don't think I can be out there trying to do it for the even. I already do it, bro. That's what I'm saying, but I'm saying like, I don't know what I'm saying. I do. You said, you said, you said put it all on the line for some people Even so shit, I be wanting to say but bro you already do it. I'm telling you bro. I'm telling you what I see Okay, like bro for you
Starting point is 01:15:37 Bro, you can't y'all answer this question When he first came on this bitch first start fucking with y'all was he not a different man? Oh for sure, but but buddy off buddy always had the same heart When he first came on this bitch, first started fucking with y'all, was he not a different man? Oh, for sure. But he always had the same heart. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You don't have it in you.
Starting point is 01:15:51 You can't make something that you don't have. But I just mean, bro, do you know how many people watch you peel them lands off? I know that's how a lot of people looked at me. I remember when I first got on TV and told, said that I was on high blood pressure pills. Do you know how many? Thangstas, hustlers, I tell people that all the time. All these so-called conscious motherfuckers, they don't fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:16:15 They never fuck with me, they don't like me. I make them uncomfortable because I want to do something. They ain't know I'm uncomfortable. You know? And a lot of motherfuckers just want to talk. I don't think we should be talking but man a lot of them cats will see me and they like down a man if you were comfortable enough man to go ahead start taking your pills and talk about that shit in front of the world I know I can do it. Like bro you don't know who be watching bro and the thing is whether we like it or not. That's what I tell people all the time no matter how conscious I am
Starting point is 01:16:47 Niggas bitches drug dealers killers. They put me on That's why I never turn my nose up to the streets ever no matter how conscious that I did have you noticed no matter How mad I did black people I always say we? Never separate myself no matter how smart how much money I get because conscious people didn't put me on Rippity-Rappity-Rappity niggas as much as I like rippity-rappin all the time niggas don't fuck with me No matter how dope my song is No matter how dope Death of a Popstar No matter how dope Cricket Nettie
Starting point is 01:17:20 No matter how dope the Godbox is Yeah Motherfuckers don't give a fuck about this. The people who are listening to like a pimp and might get you. That's why I hear play. Run girl, I'm sorry, pussy with you. They can talk about all that shit they want to. I lost money every time I did positive music.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Every time. $1.5 million. You tell me motherfuckers that expect that much money on themselves. On some positive shit. $2.5 million. You tell me motherfuckers that they spent that much money on themselves. Yeah. On some positive shit. But what I do know is at least I can say that I tried. Right, right. But it's easy. It's easy for you to make them records though.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Not to contradict the other records. That's super easy right? Oh yeah. See, watch this. You don't like this. People don't understand it. All this shit is simple. The reason why lower vibrational shit or not so smart shit sells, it's because there are more people
Starting point is 01:18:15 who are going to kindergarten than there has been that graduation from the 20th grade, right? Right? Right? Just yesternow, right? Big thing. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Even less people who have a doctorate, right? But even the doctorate can listen to your problems. Right. So what we have to understand is, and it's no different than Malcolm, some people want to be smart for the sake of being smart. If you notice, Malcolm X had one of the greatest commands on the English language
Starting point is 01:18:46 and he never said anything the average man couldn't understand. Because are you trying to show me that you're smart or are you trying to get me to understand? Facts. So that means sometimes I may have to dip back off into some shit that I don't like. Bro, it bothers me at a spiritual level. Regina, how many years have I had the Godbox 2? At least two. Yeah. That motherfucker four or five years old. It's gonna come out.
Starting point is 01:19:16 True, as long as she knows that I've had it. It's gonna come out. Bro, that shit's so fucking hood. It's gonna come out. It's gotta come out. But the problem is, I know what people want I got a really good friend of mine in DC who he had the same problem with food Like he cooks fried food. That's what he's known for
Starting point is 01:19:37 But he eats not if he's been conscious now, he don't eat like that, but he know what people know and that's the difference man It's like an internal contemplation. Yeah Even the mother said that shit, you know, I should eat you up to sell it Yeah, I couldn't get a restaurant right now and see you like so I can even do it even though I know how to cook this Shit, I couldn't I would have to try to sell being through Something that resonates with your spirit. I couldn't I couldn't do it. Or you won't be able to sleep at night. Yeah, I couldn't. That's why you got all your negros, bro.
Starting point is 01:20:08 And I was one of them. Got all this damn money. My cousin used to say it all the time, bro. You got models and cars and billions of dollars. Why you ain't sleeping? Because that shit don't do nothing for your soul. But I would say I'd much rather figure it out with some money than be broke as fuck.
Starting point is 01:20:24 In fact, I could just be an outspit. I'd rather figure it out with some money than be broke as fuck. I'd rather figure it out in a house, than living in my van like I was before. But bro, I'll tell you this man, and I say this to everybody. When I started back sleeping, I would have paid any amount of money bro, to just get a good night's sleep. I would sleep an hour of money bro to just get a good night's sleep. I'll sleep in the hour too, a night In the biggest house out and can't enjoy the bruh. I was living on top of a mountain Literally on top of the mountain could shoot it up You know, so I always say bro, there's a way for you To get money bro and it agrees with your spirit
Starting point is 01:21:03 But the reason why it don't affect some people and it affects others is cuz some people never have a speed Like you just said about him no matter what he did in the streets and his heart He was still a good person and what money gave him an opportunity to do is to find When you ain't got no money, you can't find shit But you can't find no shit But a fucking meal And they know that we're animals before anything you're gonna survive You ain't got no money, you can't find shit. But you can't find your shit. But a fucking meal. And they know that we're animals.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Before we anything, you're going to survive. Right. We make some money now, man. Let's make some money. What's the money? What's the money plays? That's a good question. What's the money plays?
Starting point is 01:21:42 What's the money plays right now? I want to be a superhero and you done that um there was a young girl who came crying to her dad uncontrollably her dad said she's four year old black beautiful dark skin girl she said daddy daddy daddy are they gonna be any black people in the future you said why she said cuz I was watching the justices and I didn't see me whoa like science fiction is them preparing us for a future and they usually don't have us in it damn like like damn that's deep all right now watch this I'm gonna go even further what superman what what fuels superman power y'all know he's tonight kills him but or if you the Sun does Superman is fueled by the Sun right
Starting point is 01:22:33 white deflects the Sun right white people are allergic to the Sun right if Superman superpower was really the Sun he'll be darker than the darkest night. He'd be darker than the darkness anything bro because we absorb the sunlight. Right. So it's our responsibility. A white scientist told me that. There ain't no way Superman white. So it's our responsibility to properly depict that it now my second movie. I want to do a movie I said I want to move with you. I love movie like a love Jones type movie That'll be hard and then they'd be like maybe like with David Benner Like you just said you wanted to be in science fiction
Starting point is 01:23:16 Well black love in America right now, especially on TV as sci-fi See you So it's my responsibility as sexy as I am right now to use this body I'm a good mother fucker. I'm gonna tell y'all some high-tech somebody live. You know, Eric did not know. As much as I'm in the fucking gym, if I don't look good, I need to go home. That shit hurt. I'm sexy than a motherfucker. Look good, smell good, smell me then.
Starting point is 01:23:36 I wake up like that, baby. It's so snowing. We're gonna have to get some sleep. We're gonna have to get some sleep. We're gonna have to get some sleep. We're gonna have to get some sleep. I'm sexy than a moth. Look good, smell good, smell me then. I can wake up like that. I'm sci-fi. Oh, I'm sci-fi.
Starting point is 01:23:51 No, man, but for real, I am going to do sci-fi, man. And hopefully our children won't know a time where they won't be a black Hmm, yes, because really all the superhero is showing you God and car Hey, and so they're telling us we not done. It's like as much as I like black Panther. That's cool. I don't be no fucking cat Superman Girls won't be fucking wonder one. They want to be the flash, the fastest in the world, and they come from, hero comes from Hey Roo. It comes from us, the world's hero. We are the gods.
Starting point is 01:24:34 So how dare we not? My little brother, Karan Joseph Riley, is working on a black superhero film. And y'all, the last movie that I was in, I played a guy. You saw the pictures of it, you know? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's getting closer and closer and that's what I wanna do. I wanna push my dreams so fucking far. I wanna show people, like,
Starting point is 01:24:58 I maybe shouldn't say this, man, but I wanna come back when I shoot a film, man. I wanna do like an installment where a motherfucker walk in the club and we can transform the whole club. Maybe hook motherfuckers up and they swing across the motherfucking club and shit. Like literally, I want to do shit.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Let's think about it, bro. Atlanta is supposed to be the media capital of the world. But when you go to the club, you don't feel that shit. Like when I'm in Europe and going to phone parties and you know what I'm saying? I had an idea one time to, what's that, the ninja, what's the ninja shit, the ninja warriors? I wanted to do some shit because black people,
Starting point is 01:25:37 we be so clean now, we don't be wanting to get dirty. You can't get into the motherfuckin' club unless you do some ninja shit. You gotta get in the water and jump across some shit. Like I really want a motherfuckin' elite you do some ninja shit. You gotta get in the water and jump across some shit. I really want a motherfuckin' leader club to be like, that nigga Bountiful, something ain't right about this.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Fuck this shit. I want people to have fun and dance and shit again. Smile and do something. You know what I mean? I feel like you gotta just, he creates a lot of the fun in Atlanta shit. So he put me down with the Miguel Wilson shit the other day. You know, so you just got to find the communities now and have your own fun with like-minded
Starting point is 01:26:11 people. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of people don't, they don't know nothing but sit down, not those people but sit down and blow a hookah. That's all they know. But we going to do it, y'all. And again, I want to tell y'all, man, before we we end this man, how proud I am of y'all. And I wouldn't have gotten into much political shit if it wasn't for y'all.
Starting point is 01:26:31 But I actually waited to come on the show because I really didn't know what I wanted to say. For a while I had lost myself. I didn't know really what my basis was anymore because Then I had given so much They know a lot think about this man think about how we talked about this in the beginning of the show People don't talk about the level of producer I am Produce Quincy Jones before people don't talk about this. Why you think why you think that way? Oh, I
Starting point is 01:27:02 Think sometimes when you got people like let's say I think there's no way for you to talk about a top five and not put Ice Cube in it. I just think there's no way for you to do that. Like that dude went from one coach, Conker, one coach, all the way to another coach. Got them, got their producers then they in contact shit again. Like- A living legend. Right. But I think what happens with black folks is when they see that you alright and other
Starting point is 01:27:30 shit, I even give a greater example. Damn, I ain't never thought about it. How in the fuck is Outkast considered one of the top artists on any genre of music and you don't say they the best rap group? They gotta be the best rap group that you consider them to be the best in rock and country and all that kind of shit. You just gonna trump them? As far as it's concerned as rappers?
Starting point is 01:27:54 You can't do that! How you gonna say that this level is higher than this level and then you just gonna not say that he not disperse? That don't make sense to me. But anyway, so I look at it from the standpoint of people see that I got so much other shit going on, he'll be all right. But what I know is as Southerners, we too nice.
Starting point is 01:28:18 We never really want to took our spot. We too kind. The West Coast women took they shit, we took time. Like the West Coast when it took that shit, bro. Like we still don't have that proper film depiction yet of what we do right now. I'm gonna tell you what I think it is about South niggas, bruh. Niggas just feel like shit, we finna just get out of here.
Starting point is 01:28:39 They don't wanna get into the other side of it. This shit come from, they start this shit up north, west hand it, we finna milk the money out this shit. you know what I'm saying? This shit come from, they started shit up north, west hand it, we got it, we finna milk the money out this shit, you know what I'm saying? Even though we coulda took it, like took it. But every time a nigga try to do that, we see what they doing, they crucifying these niggas at the top.
Starting point is 01:28:56 But the truth is, it go back to history. Bro, it's us. Where Jase Brown from, bro? Like, people talk all that, like I even go from a hip hop perspective, bro. Like when you ask most people favorite hip hip hip hip hop producer, they usually say Primo, right? Primo can praise you, bro.
Starting point is 01:29:18 He from Texas. He from Texas, bro. Yeah, yeah. You can't skip across that, bro. Yeah. Like if you look at your samples, your samples are here. It goes back, I'll show get cross that bro. Yeah, I can you look at your samples of samples up here It goes back so you how God work. We just talking about God the history Bro, your people are from here, bro
Starting point is 01:29:35 Your people and we are from here. So there's no way that you can't skip past your grandparents. Harlem is the South, bro I lived in Harlem for six years. That's us That's where the black people went to that's reason why they have so much style. They got so much grace Cuz cuz this feel like Mississippi Feel like Mississippi to me. And so like, part of our problem is we don't know our history. That's why Fight Night was so important to me bro. Like when you see how important the number runners were,
Starting point is 01:30:17 the dope dealers were to Atlanta being what they are, but you can have white folks and they'll give you their scar faces and their John Gotti's and all of these different people But we throw away our history Yeah We throw away our history as soon as white people say that they, man come on bro That was, if you look even about the history of Martin Luther King, I was sitting out in front of um Pretty Ken grabbed me and said,
Starting point is 01:30:45 Bama, I know you love history. He set me down in front of a Citizens Trust Bank on Martin Luther King's, I want you to talk to some of the OGs. And he told me a story, bro, that was so powerful, bro. I don't even know if it's my place to sing. It was so powerful. But he was like, OG set me down, he was like,
Starting point is 01:31:05 Ben, you ever notice that Martin Luther King outside of his church never talked or spoke in Atlanta? Like he did in Birmingham and the other places, you ever notice that? He didn't did you. You know why? Because the streets told him, bro you're talking that integration shit,
Starting point is 01:31:22 the Atlanta clubs was so poppin' that white folks came to the black clubs in Atlanta It was so popping in a black businesses was so popping we didn't need them So they told my you can you could talk that integration shit anywhere you want to you can't talk to him He did whatever he wanted to do in his church But outside of that he didn't speak in Atlanta because the streets told him that we will protect you, we will take care of you, but you can't talk that shit. You gonna kill the black moon.
Starting point is 01:31:53 And Martin Luther King didn't notice it until right before he died. When he told Harry Belafonte, I think I've integrated my people into a burning house. Yes, yes. So all you gotta do, the problem is that we don't study. We don't care nothing about our history, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I will say this. There is no way in the hell you should go to any of these towns where you got legacy artists and not here. History. When you go to LA, you hear Drake. You hear Snoop. You go, even if it's an instrumental, even if it's an instrumental,
Starting point is 01:32:34 in the white motherfucking restaurants, you'll hear Tribe Conchords, you'll hear Run DMC, you'll hear the old time record. It should be the same, it's cultural, yeah, you're right. There's no way that you go to Mississippi and not hear no David Banner at all. That you come to Georgia and not hear no Lil' John, no Pastor Troy, no Alpans, no Usher. You understand what I'm saying? They have beat history out of us so much that from a cellular level, there are certain things that we don't like that we have trauma towards because of the pain
Starting point is 01:33:08 my opinion big facts what you're saying is correct bro like we forget about our people too fast and I'll tell y'all and most of these people my bad most of these people it could be rappers it could be anything it could be singers it could be somebody that just did be anything, it could be singers, it could be somebody
Starting point is 01:33:25 that just did something great, but fuck, we forget that they're heroes too fast. And like he said, even the gangsters, even the gangsters like, come on. But we'll live off all the shit that they did. All their hard work, we'll live off their shit, but we won't say their name. Is that not the reason why I told you I hired you?
Starting point is 01:33:44 Regina may not be a big, big part, but it may be. But she got something to do with our musical history. And I told her, I'm going to make sure that people know your fucking name. And when we was on our podcast, when people see what it is, what do they scream? I just start my podcast like that. And it's funny because I didn't even mean to do it that way. But that's what I meant by fight night. For all of them hustlers, all of them number runners, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:12 All in the strip club only. This one in particular. But that's not my place to talk the history. Because I'm an outsider. So I'm very, I'm very careful with me, again, trying to play ZZs. Mm. They say they need elsos, about what?
Starting point is 01:34:29 When I get big fat, big fat, big fat. What's up y'all? So in a recent episode of Quest Love Supreme, my co-hosts, I'm Bay Bill and Sugar Steve and I sat down with the king at rock of the Beastie Boys. We talked about the early days of the Beasties, thinking for records around the globe, and now he makes music these days
Starting point is 01:34:45 in a cabin in the mountains. Oh, and this jewel. I was trying to start a band in the 90s called the Nasal Tongues. Me and Q-Tip and MC Milk and Be Real. Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. -♪
Starting point is 01:35:04 Hey, y'all. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, host of Therapy for Black Girls, and I'm thrilled to invite you to our January Jumpstart Series for the third year running. All January, I'll be joined by inspiring guests who will help you kickstart your personal growth with actionable ideas and real conversations. We're talking about topics like building community and creating an inner and outer glow. I always tell people that when you buy a handbag, it doesn't cover a childhood scar. When you buy a jacket, it doesn't reaffirm
Starting point is 01:35:34 what you love about the hair you were told not to love. So when I think about beauty, it's so emotional because it starts to go back into the archives of who we were, how we want to see ourselves, and who we know ourselves to be and who we can be. So a little bit of past, present, and future, all in one idea, soothing something from the past. And it doesn't have to be always an insecurity. It could be something that you love.
Starting point is 01:35:55 All to help you start 2025 feeling empowered and ready. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls starting on January 1st on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So y'all, this is Questlove and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the story pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family friendly podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages.
Starting point is 01:36:24 One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast
Starting point is 01:36:40 for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. -♪ Flash slam another one gone, bash bam another one gone, the cracker to bat and another one gone, the tip of the cap is another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up
Starting point is 01:37:06 her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me Did you know, did you know I wouldn't give up my seat Nine months before Rosa He was Claudette Colvin
Starting point is 01:37:21 Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records, because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's John, also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan or Joe Ho. And we are the BlackFatFilm Podcast.
Starting point is 01:37:50 A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Ooh, chat, this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelicaasso and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Fam podcast on the iHeart Radio app. Have a podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Ooh, I know that's right. Hey y'all, I'm Maria Fernanda Diaz. My podcast, When You're Invisible,
Starting point is 01:38:20 is my love letter to the working class people and immigrants who shaped my life. I get to talk to a lot of people who form the backbone of our society, but who have never been interviewed before. Season 2 is all about community, organizing, and being underestimated. All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, this sucks, let's do something about it. I can't have more than $2,000 in my bank account
Starting point is 01:38:45 or else I can't get disability benefits. They won't let you succeed. I know we get paid to serve you guys, but like, be respectful. We're made out of the same things, bone, body, blood. It's rare to have black male teachers. Sometimes I am the lesson and I'm also the testament.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Listen to When You're Invisible as part of the MyCultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's a hell of a point though. Even the gangsters, we don't celebrate the gangsters that actually played it all the way gangsta. And he ain't told nobody, he ain't never robbed his homie. We celebrate, but we'll talk more about the niggas who tell the rats. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:39:32 We'll make it known, this nigga told us. So we just, that mean ain't nobody real. We'll celebrate the niggas who actually stood for something. And then get mad at the kids, because the kids gravitate more to the people that you talk about Kids don't listen what you say they look at what you do Same thing we told you fuck what you talk about nigga. That's where you spend your money
Starting point is 01:39:53 I don't give a fuck about no Instagram. I don't give a fuck about none of that shit where you spend your money What you care about. Who you marry is what you care about All the rest of that shit is a whole bunch of bullshit That's what that's the reason why I love these kids even from a revolutionary standpoint Look at what these kids do that we didn't do These kids don't talk about the white man the white man the kids say no John don't that work at Flipping pancakes on 52 60 Bird Street. That's what that motherfucker work it. Let's go get him and his job uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:40:26 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Exactly are those people they go after there? Yeah, because we'll go out to each other Fuck step on your shoes. Don't bring your dog back. We go directly to his house So why don't we go to they have? And it was funny a white comedian said a couple days ago. He was like he was like You know, this is something harsh to say he said but slavery was kind of neat Everybody was like why there's like white people. I mean black people are so much faster than us They took off and read and we couldn't have been every catcher
Starting point is 01:41:12 I mean if we could we would have called them they fight better than us. They could turn around and beat our ass The fact that we control them was sort of neat and if you take all the emotions away from that We now have the ability to wake the fuck up. I that we control them with sort of need. And if you take all the emotions away from that, we now have the ability to wake the fuck up. I say the same thing about our diet. You ain't no fucking slave no more. You don't have to eat scraps from a fucking pig no more. You choose to do that.
Starting point is 01:41:37 And if you choose to do it, I don't judge you. That ain't my place to judge. My bad, couldn't y'all. They just prepped it up into chicken nuggets and shit now. They just, no real shit, bruh. They just piece that shit up till you make it, it don't look like scraps but it is. Marketing.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Or they play it in a way, or they play it in a way that make us think that it's something that it relate, well it's just the pee. It's still the fucking pee. It's still that bullshit. It's still that it Bullshit And they put all the bullshit Man what those certain nuggets are made out of what dolphins
Starting point is 01:42:19 No damn dolphins on this shit She'd come off the floor when they cut the meat and the rest of shit left grind this shit up man Put the flavor on Wait, you know when they talk about filter beer Filtered beer the malt That's the piss Yeah Oh he still reserved That's the piss off of their good bits. I had a homeboy who had money and still would drink that shit. Oh, he still reserved?
Starting point is 01:42:49 He would steal the shit. I gotta go steal something, go to jail for something real. Motherfucker would tell him, he would steal Iceman. Come on, dog. The glass that they put Iceman in would work more than a fucking beer, dog. Alright, so this is what I tell y'all in frozen. Again, I'd like to thank y'all for giving me the opportunity to speak about shit that our parents used to die for. You know, sometimes it is hard for me. I could have made so much more money. I will say that I am comfortable in myself now enough to say I'm a fucking genius.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Right. Ain't much that I've touched that wasn't successful in. Right. I made certain choices to be a certain type of man and I'm proud of the man that I am, but I refuse to let my future children suffer. All right. I'm going to be successful. I'm going to do what I'm supposed to do. And that may mean that I have to step away from some of the things that I'm
Starting point is 01:43:47 passionate about in order to get what I know that I deserve. But I appreciate y'all for giving me the opportunity to speak my mind. Open door, because one thing that I am and John Henry Clark said is one of the ways one of the ways that we can be free or get free is just acting like free. The fact that I can be free or get free. It's just acting like I'm free Hmm the fact that I can come here and even if we don't agree with each other that you at least let me say my piece And entertain my thought process and train the thought or at least let me get it out That's originally what my podcast was supposed to be whatever Jamie
Starting point is 01:44:20 I was supposed to be it to be a place like if a star got in trouble We may not agree with you but come at least you can get your statements out here I remember bro when they said Chris Brown up on good morning America, bro That was one of the most vicious things I ever said. Yeah, I like that wasn't right. It wasn't and I Don't believe that people have many places where they can come and just be they self and I'm gonna say this, you know and I mean this and I'm not just going to fight back to fight night because of what it did for me, but You know They try to get us to play pimps
Starting point is 01:44:56 hustlers and dope-dillers and all that kind of shit movies because they think that we're gonna make these people character characters and Of our coach but it is my because they think that we're gonna make these people character, caricatures of our culture. But it is my responsibility, because I come from that shit, is to give them humanity. One thing about Mosley, people felt good about Mosley, but they knew he wasn't a fucking joke. Bitch, I don't give a fuck who you get. Get it out your ass.
Starting point is 01:45:19 That's my cousin, for fucking real. He say that all the time. Bitch, get it out your ass. there the fuck will you get from? See they try to play us with all this power and that motherfucker mean all the time Most of the killers that I know the coolest niggas in the world except they go from one to one meals And it ain't no fucking middle ground point is my responsibility Because I love culture so much that if I'm gonna play the pimp That's the reason why people felt mostly I'm so fucking much
Starting point is 01:45:48 It's because I am going to give my people humanity or I'm not gonna do this shit Y'all I'm gonna leave y'all with this this shit hurt me so bad Although I come from that environment It's still my responsibility to study. Do you agree? Yes, sir. All right. So I went and researched some of the most notorious pimps, especially some from the Midwest,
Starting point is 01:46:12 because that's where my character was from. Right. Y'all this shit hurt me so bad, bro, and I don't get emotional much, but this made me emotional. They asked him, what did you want to be when you were a child? Guess what he said. They asked him, what did you want to be when you were a child? Guess what he said. He said he wanted to be a gymnast.
Starting point is 01:46:31 He let them sit for a minute. You know what that meant? I thought he would have wanted to be a football player, dope dealer, something aggressive. There was so much disparity in his motherfucking neighborhood that it went from him wanting to be a gymnast to a fucking pimp and shit ass in the middle
Starting point is 01:46:52 that's a fucking problem real shit, real shit bro that shit hurt me so bad bro he wanted to be a gymnast slip around in leotards for the rest of his life he wanted to play I'm dead serious put it in my pocket. Yeah Bitch, I ain't playing. I can't
Starting point is 01:47:12 And so it is my responsibility to show the humanity in him To show the fucking humanity. That's my fucking job as an actor and ain't nobody on this planet gonna beat me doing it That's my fucking job as an actor. And ain't nobody on this planet gonna beat me doing it. Motherfuckers gonna look back and be like, that's a bad motherfucker. And I'll say this too. So they won't do it to nobody else. In so many cases, we allow the kings in our neighborhoods,
Starting point is 01:47:38 the kings in our state, the kings from where we from to go somewhere else and be generals in somebody else's army when they could have been our kings and then we talk about them like shit when we don't realize that we did not nurture them we talk about people leaving our neighborhoods but if we really treated people think about it the motherfuckers who do say we rob them Just mark motherfuckers. We call them nerds killer. We treat them like shit That's rich The niggas who do the shit that we say that niggas don't do we let them die. Yep And do nothing about you can't help some shit just gonna happen. Yeah, but a motherfucker don't know he was here Yep
Starting point is 01:48:27 Yeah, but a motherfucker don't know he was here We gotta do better and stop talking so much shit and we treat people to the city of Memphis Try to pay me to live there, bro. They're gonna take care of everything and there's somebody on the board They fax the lyrics to play so they changed their mind about me but I think wet boys is good for society I was thinking about all of the tax incentives I was thinking about all the things that Memphis was offering at the time for me to come and move to that city.
Starting point is 01:49:09 To do what? People don't know like what Maynard Jackson did, you know, for Mary and Babyface to be here. You know what I'm saying? This shit don't happen. You gotta have a plan. And we gotta stop trying to- Architects.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Right. We gotta stop trying to guilt trip motherfuckers What supremacy if you fucking set out they may kill you in the end, but they'll put you on a TV show You cut your hair off and then do it and take ass up sucking nose in that give you an opportunity We got to be real white supremacy pains black supremacy guilt trips So if you show these kids that you will take care of them if they come back to the community It will be easier for them to not fucking leave But you don't do shit but whoop on their ass and talk about them and make them feel bad
Starting point is 01:49:59 We gotta stop that shit man We gotta stop that shit Make sure y'all tune in. And y'all do everything that y'all supposed to to make sure the big facts stay with me. This be one of the biggest media conglomerates in the world. We got real folk doing real shit. Real shit.
Starting point is 01:50:16 And thank y'all for not leaving us. Thank y'all for staying us. And thank y'all for evolving. I love y'all and I appreciate you. Thank you for picking up the phone when I need you. Anytime, you know. You're so beautiful. I love y'all and I appreciate you. Thank you for picking up the phone Best thing you said Oh Bell you said said it bro. We got to protect our smart people, bro You know saying we see these people be smart and we clown them for being smart
Starting point is 01:50:44 That's great. We gotta protect our smart people. And then those smart niggas gotta stop throwing their motherfucking ass up at a motherfucker because they smart too. If you fucking smart, your job is to teach. That's what I say about them niggas. A lot of them niggas that make people hate being smart and that was the reason why,
Starting point is 01:50:59 that was the reason why we made our own music because we tried to do what them smart niggas were doing and they turned their nose up in it So they got a fucking responsibility to to come back and teach. Oh dog motherfuckers. I can't stand niggas, bro I can't stand You you in the God position? God God God is information God is knowledge God is freedom You get in a God position and you pray for freedom and you pray for God to forgive you every day
Starting point is 01:51:27 and you don't come back and fuck with your people. You're a dog ass. Final question, final question. That is what I, this is all me. So what's that fine line though, we'll take Nipsey Hussle. What's the fine line in going back but protecting self? What's the fine line from David Banner?
Starting point is 01:51:42 The spirit of discernment. Like I had to realize that man, sometimes people are just hurt. It ain't personal. A lot of times when we're dealing with people in the hood, it ain't that they dislike you, but you are a mirror to show them what they don't feel like they can do.
Starting point is 01:51:59 And like if y'all notice man, I was never the type of rapper to wear a whole bunch, I don't wear my jewelry out unless I'm going to shine on another motherfucker that got what I got. And I'm at that point in my life where I can have some nice shit. But when I was coming up in the trenches, I knew how I felt. Motherfuck, I'm hungry. I like Dave the Banner.
Starting point is 01:52:19 He cool and shit. Like I knew that if I was that kind of guy, I'm a good guy. I know a lesser motherfucker. They didn't think that. I knew that if I was that kind of guy, I'm a good guy. I know Alessa mother fucker. They did this. That's why I ain't never, bro. Yeah, like if you haven't noticed me, bro, I never,
Starting point is 01:52:34 Virginia, do I have to stay in the club longer than I own? I never get a mother fucker enough time to get drunk enough. Not just drunk, but if you are smart, you're strategic. So I'm never getting a mother fucker enough time to come up on the plane. Get drunk or duh. Not just drunk, but if you are smart, you're strategic. Yeah. So I'm never giving a motherfucker enough time to come up and complain. Sit up, yeah exactly. Oh yeah, yeah, I got that pistol on me.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I'll be like dog with him on me. But that thin line bro, that thin line bro, is just knowing what you used to be. Yeah. And like I told you, I don't know if this was on tape or not, keeping your bird heart, but developing the snake's mind. That's real. You know, I'ma tell y'all something that I know about me.
Starting point is 01:53:11 And I don't know if I ever said this on camera before. I know a lot of my contemporaries don't like me. And they don't like me because if David Banner becomes popular, then etiquette and morals mean something. See, that's the thing that they don't show or they don't talk about with Pop and Nipsey. These were people who honor nip something. Your word nip something.
Starting point is 01:53:36 And so if Nipsey becomes the most powerful motherfucker, then you can't treat women any kind of way that you want to. You can't not keep your word. You cannot have a code. If Pop is the number one rapper, then you gotta say something about the Black Panthers. Because not if he dead,
Starting point is 01:53:51 you don't talk about that part about him. You cannot talk about Pop and not talk about revolution. Not talk about the people. You cannot be, you cannot, David Banner cannot be popular and you not honor the hood. You not honor the side. You can't say you stupid.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Look at Mississippi. The artists that came out of Mississippi that you know of are some of the smartest fuckers on this planet. Tell me Crit ain't smart. Tell me David Banner ain't smart. Tell me T.O. Lopez ain't smart. Tell me Ray Shroomade to finally fucking uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:54:24 uh, clothes and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and being free thinkers. Tell me Ray Shroomade to finally fucking uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh So then they can do anything without music and it's not his fault because he doesn't know anybody And I never criticize the rapper because most rappers told you what they were There was one female rapper in particular that I respect her so much She told you who she was in the beginning and she never faltered for that And then people once she became a multimillion over No, no, I told you she was a she had a little bit of this good on the business Yeah, I respect you know you got that is the reason why I say it closing If y'all ever know all the stuff that I did with Katrina, all the stuff that I did,
Starting point is 01:55:29 bruh, it was maybe 9th Wonder, Erykah Badu, Taliah Kweli. The rest of it was all gangster rappers. Like, there's somebody in particular who was probably the style's second favorite, Gangsta rapper. He brought me $10,000, $20,000 that they've been on with nobody. He said, I know if you have it, it's going to get to the people.
Starting point is 01:55:55 He said, but I don't need no fame for doing the right thing. Anything that I've ever done for the streets, anything I've ever done for the community came through Gangsta rapper. I'll never forget this in my life, bro, and I hope he don't mind me telling this story, bro. And I'll end with this. I was driving through Midtown, right when Allset got out of prison. And I said, what up, dawg? He said, OG. He was like, OG, can I get your number? I said, I need some help. I was like, what, bro? What you mean?
Starting point is 01:56:26 He's like, I wanna do better, I wanna know how. And I was like, damn. That was so fucking, like for a man, to open his heart, like I just, and then that's right when the ego, so I can understand why that connection didn't happen, but he asked me, like I just, I wanna know, can you help me?
Starting point is 01:56:45 Know what's that? Yeah So it's our responsibility our children say whatever we want to about these kids music Our children are a direct reflection what we did or did not teach They say that all time If they're not going in the right directions because we didn't want him in the right direction We don't have we don't have no connection. We can show them what to do. We didn't put them on If you look at the generation after me Then that's the soldier boy era on to what we have now
Starting point is 01:57:22 That's the same generation. Oh, no to what we have now. That's the same generation. Oh, no, no. Before him was a generation that we skipped over. And guess who is three rappers in that category. You can't name the many after them. It's Krip, Kenji Lamar and J. Cole. Their generation was a generation after us
Starting point is 01:57:39 and we didn't usher them in. And it was about three to five of them. And it was no more rappers out of that generation for the most part. And that's our part. And it wasn't because we were selfish, it was because we didn't know what we would do. We didn't have lawyers that were from the city
Starting point is 01:57:54 and marketing company. We had to figure that shit out. So we trying to hold this shit up and be businessmen and rappers and do the beats and tour and every fucking thing else. And we didn't have an opportunity to pull the kids up. Snoop was the only other person I ever heard talk about that.
Starting point is 01:58:11 That was our fault. So the kids put themselves on. So why should they fuck with us? We didn't do nothing to pull them up. So all I can do is be here and be an example and y'all be surprised what kids call me and the questions that they ask. So they just waiting on that stuff. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:58:29 David Banner, we appreciate you, man. You know you're welcome anytime on Big Facts. Y'all make sure y'all support everything. What's that website again, man? DavidBanner.com There you go. DavidBanner.com. Support every day he got going on. Fight Night! Fight Night! Yeah, yeah. Stream that. Message! Check us out too. Everyday he got going on. Fight night. Fight night, right now. Yeah, yeah, scream that. Message.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Check this out too. Family business coming up on BET. That's coming up. Okay. Huh? Family business. Oh, family business in New Orleans. Yeah, it's on the other side.
Starting point is 01:58:53 Family business in New Orleans. Shout out to that girl Regina over there. Yeah. Everything intact. Before I Go was the movie that I played the guy in. Before I Go. Really, really, really excited about that, man. And you know, what I just asked people, just, you know, I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:59:01 I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. Before I go was the movie that I played the god in before I go really really really excited about that man and You know what what I just ask people just just support You know you have to invest in people that you want to see success, right? If y'all black people are all emotional about politics, I don't understand this is last thing. I promise I'm gonna go with you Why do we go to the same motherfuckers who didn't give a fuck about politics before to talk about politics now?
Starting point is 01:59:31 I never understood this Always been talking politics. There's always you don't do them And then expect them to know or do what's best If I talked about this on another show if we've been engineered into a problem wouldn't it be smarter to get a fucking engineer? If you really know some real answers Talk about yeah I don't. You don't want to do something? I'm just waiting for you.
Starting point is 02:00:03 I'll be going to do the wrong shit and be the only like, that nigga down there. That's where I be just, what you're saying? Aries. Oh yeah, you want to do something. I want to do something. If you know what I am going to do bro, I'm going to get a whole bunch of money man. And y'all, my dream, you know, I got to go. Bro, I want to buy water go. I wanna buy water.
Starting point is 02:00:26 I wanna buy water, right? As much as we talk revolution, if them white folks cut off our water, cut off our electricity, we gon' get right. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm serious. Jackson saw some of that, right? Bro, I'm gonna tell you something
Starting point is 02:00:43 when the camera's cut off. Like I developed something of that, right? Bro, I'm gonna tell you something when the camera's cut off. Like I developed something, bro, and submitted it to some really powerful people, bro. I'm gonna show you some of this. Virginia, can you pull up that water thing for him? You got that, the water proposal? Bro, like, like no bullshit, I'll say this and then I'm gonna shut up I really really
Starting point is 02:01:06 believe that my talents and my ability to think is being wasted yeah but I really think that I can help do some things that help change the world and Derek Gray said it one time, Derek Gray said could you imagine David Banner with a billion dollars or billions of dollars as access for whatever we think about and we could really do it. We wouldn't have to go to nobody else. And that's the reason why I was telling you that I got to be more quiet because look at what level I'm getting to and you know them folks like as much as black people think That you get some credit or some money being revolutionary. You don't
Starting point is 02:01:49 Don't fuck scared me, bro And I finally break my way through them doors and then I start popping that shit again And then if y'all notice I slowly disappear Make sure that you'll go disappear That shit went down to 300 You know But you know what it taught me and what God has shown me is that means we have to build our own technology
Starting point is 02:02:29 and our own platform. We gotta stop giving our power to other people and then be surprised because they do the same thing every time. Right. I look at America as a snake. And why is that? Even if you had a pet rattlesnake, y'all was cool.
Starting point is 02:02:50 Even if a rattlesnake was cool, motherfucker decided to bite you one day, would you be surprised? No. Why? Because it's still a snake. Historically, people have always been snakes. Are there some good snakes? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:02 The black snake, for a farmer, may be the best snake on this fucking planet. Maybe the best animal on this planet. Keeps the rats out and all kinds of good shit, right? But like, I mean like, Muhammad Ali said, when you see a black snake, if it's out in a month to a whole bunch of other snakes, you're not going to be like, ooh, that black snake, nah, you're going to be like fuck all them snakes. Fuck all those slaves. Fuck all of them. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Jesus.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Man, big facts now. Big point. David Banner on Big Facts. Triple W dot Big Facts Pod dot com. Salute. Get me some money. We need some money. We need some money.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Get me boys some money, man. Yeah, man. Put it in the streets. It's happy. It's Big Facts. No cap, no cap. Bitch. What's up, y'all?
Starting point is 02:03:51 So in a recent episode of Quest Love Supreme, my co-hosts, I'm P. Bill and Sugar Steve and I sat down with the king at rock of the Beastie Boys. We talked about the early days of the Beasties, thinking for records around the globe, and how he makes music these days in a cabin in the mountains. Oh, and this jewel. I was these days in a cabin in the mountains. Oh, and this jewel.
Starting point is 02:04:06 I was trying to start a band in the 90s called the Nasal Tongues. Me and Q-Tip and MC Milk and Be Real. Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey y'all, I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, host of Therapy for Black Girls. This January, join me for our third annual January Jumpstart Series. Starting January 1st, we'll have inspiring conversations to give you a hand in kickstarting your personal growth.
Starting point is 02:04:36 If you've been holding back or playing small, this is your all-access pass to step fully into the possibilities of the new year. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls starting on January 1st on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history
Starting point is 02:05:08 to life through hip hop. Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks
Starting point is 02:05:32 did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know I wouldn't give up my seat? Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Hey everyone, it's John, also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan or Joe Ho. And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh, chat. This year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey show, Angelica Ross and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Femme podcast on the iHeart Radio app.
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