The Breakfast Club - BIG FACTS feat. DEE-1

Episode Date: October 12, 2024

The Black Effect Presents... Big Facts!Rapper Dee-1 joins the BIG FACTS podcast for an extensive 3+ hour interview, diving deep into discussions and healthy debates around religion and the messaging within rap music. Dee-1 offers his perspectives on artists like Rick Ross and Meek Mill, and reflects on his own rap career journey as a conscious MC.  The conversation covers Dee-1's progress and evolution as an artist committed to uplifting and empowering messages through his music. Listeners can expect an insightful and thought-provoking dialogue as Dee-1 and the BIG FACTS hosts tackle important topics at the intersection of faith, social consciousness, and hip-hop.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Big Bang. It is what it is, man. DJ Screen. You don't be on nothing I be on. Baby Jade. OK, so let me ask how this ends. Bring you Big Facts. I'm asking this right now.

Visit the new website today, bigfactspod.com. Coming to you live from the Culture Lab, it's time for Big Facts. Big Bang, Baby Jade, DJ Screen. Welcome today, a rapper, motivational speaker as well, the one and only D1 is here on Big Facts. What up, what up, what up, what up, what up? Thanks, y'all.

Thanks, y'all. Welcome, welcome, welcome, my brother. I've been waiting for this moment, you hear me? And we have, too. We have, too. What's on your mind today? What's on your spirit and your energy? Man, I feel blessed because you remember that 50 Cent and the game song,

Hate It or Love It, the underdogs on top, and I'm going to shine home until my heart stop. That's how I feel, bro. Like I told you off air, I was like, bro, this has been a good season, man. I could just feel things growing. I feel more people paying attention to my music, my moves, my whole movement, everything. And it's a blessing because I think I'm mature enough to know what all this is for. This is for, man, all this attention that we get is to really try to teach people something that's going to help their lives out. You know what I mean? Some people get the attention and they think it's just all about them. This ain't about me. I'm being used in this season though, by God. I'm being used. So I'm getting the attention, but I know who to give it right

back to, which is God. And a lot of that I think is because whether people agree or disagree with you, you're being true to yourself. And I tell people when you step into that space of being true to yourself, then everything just starts coming together effortlessly for you. So I definitely salute you for always speaking your truth and standing on what you stand on. And in a tasteful way, fighting the fight to agree or agree to disagree because that's what it's all about at the end of the day. See, communication leads to unification. That's what I live by. You heard me? I made that up.

And I made it up one day. I think I was rapping and I was like, oh, that's a boy. Matter of fact, that's in a song I got that's about to come out. Communication leads to unification. We're not going to all agree on everything. We were sitting here talking about which food spot is the best. And everybody's saying, oh, this spot. Oh, I don't like this person. Oh, they're there half the time. It's OK to not agree on everything, but let's at least communicate. And in our culture, we kind of got these cliques that's like, oh, this is the type of time you're on.

You're on this type of energy. Well, all of y'all hang together. Oh, you D1, you on something else? Well, you and all your people hang together. No, man, because we all one at the end of the day. We are all one and we got to have a way to have these difficult conversations. So when it comes to hip hop, I'm just like, oh, we got a lot to talk about in this culture because hip hop is bigger than any other movement going for black people right now. There's nothing bigger pertaining to black people than hip hop. So let's at least

be honest about the culture and talk about what's good, what's healthy about it and what might need to change and improve about it. And that's what I've been talking on lately.

From the heart, from lived experiences, being in this game for a long time, ups, downs, good, bad, and ugly and just having these combos, man. And yeah, it got me on big facts.

There it is. There it is. There it is. So what are some of the things that you think is lacking in the culture? Like some of the things that just ring out to you off the top of your head? I think we in the matrix right now. I think one thing, we love to kumbaya around killing. We love to hear a bunch of music glorifying murder.

And we'd be like, oh, yeah, that's my song right there. We turning up to that. Man, I'm going to the club tonight. I can't wait till they play that. Matter of fact, till they play 20 songs like that. We got to stop kumbayaing around killing. And if we saying, hey, it's just, that's our stuff. Like, don't criticize that.

All right, cool. Then why do we cry when rappers die? But when they're alive, we love to hear them glorify murder. That type of stuff just don't make sense to me no more. Why do you think that is? Why do I think that is? I think that for about 30 years now, Jade. Yes.

I think about 30 years at this point, we have become more and more numb to what got pushed on us. At one time, when we was all little babies, it was kind of being pushed on the rappers for the first time, like, hey, if y'all rap about these negative topics, we'll give y'all some more bread. We'll sign y'all quicker. We'll incentivize y'all to rap about this stuff. And once a few people took the bait and was like, yeah, I'm going to do it. And then they start rapping about it and they see, man, the fans loving this stuff. And then people started to get more and more used to it. Now, in 2024, a dude is sitting here saying, bro, I just think that glorifying murdering ourselves is bad. I look like the outcast. People looking at it like, D1, man, you tripping, man. You talking about we shouldn't be rapping about murdering ourselves and selling dope to our people.

That's crazy, yo. Common sense ain't controversial, yo. I ain't no controversial dude, you heard me. But in this culture, in this day and age, 2024, common sense is controversial. And we seen it. I'm speaking on this stuff, and I'm speaking big facts, but they don't want that they want the big cap Your business if it's your business then keep it to yourself don't put it out there for the world to hear Once you put it out there for the world in here. It ain't your business no more. You're me

It's public content for everybody to consume. So, you know- And critique. And critique. Thank you. We need that other C in there, not just consume. We to the point nowadays where cats is like, man, nobody better not even say that my album ain't dope. If somebody go online and do a review of my album and they say my album was whack or they ain't like it, it's up. You know what I mean? I got issues with that person. Come on, man. We got to do better than that, brother. We got to. So for me, I'm not ever critiquing people's character. I'm critiquing people's content. And I'm not even saying if something is whack or not whack because they got songs that...

I'm from New Orleans. Look, when Laffy Taffy first came out, you couldn't have told none of us that that was about to be a hit back in New Orleans. We was like, no, sir. Ain't no way this song finna go. And then you saw bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop off the charts. And next thing you know, all of us in New Orleans, can't shake that Laffy Taffy.

That Laffy Taffy. Dancing like Boosie. You know what I mean? I'm Boosie B at the Hawks game. Got out of low. Because low felt the same way about that shit, man. But that shit got the money. Man, this shit be magic.

This is magic. It is. It is. It is magic when you see how a song could catch on and get so big. And then everybody's singing it. And then the whole culture that follows it. So when you see that stuff, it's like, all right, music has real power. We got to take this power serious, man.

Like, do everybody on this show believe in God? Of course. I'm curious. All right. Of course. So we believe in God. We love God. And we all love hip hop, right?

I just think that at a certain point, we got to make a decision. What do we love more, God or hip hop? Which one? Shit, God always comes. I mean, I didn't mean to curse and say his name, but God always comes first. All right. So as we say that now, we're going to go one step at a time. As you say that, God always comes first before hip hop. Then if we see things going on in hip hop, that's not of God and that God would be like, oh no, I can't rock with that. I can't co-sign that. Who said how God feel about shit?

The Bible. But the Bible... The Bible is one religion though. That's what I'm asking. So you say you believe in God but you don't believe in the Bible? Well, there's different religions and different beliefs. No, no, no. Even if it ain't the Bible, the Koran, if it's the Koran, whatever it is.

Or someone could be spiritual and not religious. If you're spiritual, then you believe that God, do y'all think God want us out here killing ourselves and killing each other? No. There we go. So when we hear music that's glorifying us killing each other, then at a certain point, we got to be like, hey, do I go with this catchy music that it sound good and it's banging but it's really talking about us killing each other and it's like it's making it sound like cool like we really bragging on that stuff or do I be like I'm gonna resist that

temptation and I'm gonna go with what what I know God would approve of which is like they got a whole bunch of other music out here that's not glorifying that and let me just pick some of that to play you know I'm saying like that's what I'll be on And let me just pick some of that to play. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I be on because that music has power and it starts out as a song. But then for some people, it becomes an anthem. Then for some people, it becomes a lifestyle. And when we talk about, well, why people don't say this about movies? Why people don't say this about video games?

Tell me the last actor. My bad if I keep doing it. I'm a touchy person. Yeah. Tell me the last actor. My bad if I keep doing it. I'm a touchy person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look. When the last time an actor caught a Rico charge? You know what I mean? When the last time an actor got put in jail for murking something?

I'll wait. No, you're right. You're right. We speaking big facts today. You know what I mean? With that being said, it's clear that in hip hop, man, this stuff is hitting different. These messages, it's not the same as movies and video games. Because the people who listen to rap and who making the music actually carrying this stuff out sometimes, bro.

So when we see that, like, bro, like I told Scream off camera, like, man, I teach a college class right now. You hear me? At Tufts University. That's in Boston. One of the assignments I had my students do was to write Kodak Black a letter in jail. You know what I'm saying? He's a lot of their favorite rapper. But their favorite rapper locked up in jail.

So I was like, man, I know Kodak. Me and Kodak, they interacted a few times. And we cool with each other. So I had my whole class write him a letter while he was in jail. He got out. You know, thankfully, Yak is back home. Soon as he got out, we was DM with each other. So I had my whole class write him a letter while he was in jail. He got out, you know, thankfully, yeah, because it's back home. As soon as he got out, we was DMing each other. He was like, man, thank y'all for them letters, bro. I read every letter from you and your whole class. He was like, y'all snapped. And that stuff really, you know, inspired me when I was in there. I'm like, man, that's powerful, bro. But you can't say that

about, man, my favorite actor who was in this movie uh dang he locked up he doing a bid right now and we gotta write letters to him behind the wall no man this rap stuff hit totally different totally different so because it has that type of power it's just like man i got i got smoke for the fans who just sit back and they're like, we're going to listen to this music and we're going to consume all this. But then when something happened to the rapper, oh, they in jail? Oh, that ain't nothing.

Y'all, T.I. put a song out a few years ago. This was on his paper trail album called My Life, Your Entertainment. Man, that song was so powerful. Just the title of that song. T.I. said, this is my life. I'm really going to jail. I'm really losing uh what his

partner name was who got killed uh phelan phelan johnson right phelan i'm really going through this stuff but this is y'all entertainment you heard me so when y'all yelling free thug as fans y'all ain't thug though you not having to do that time with him you not thugs family it's just a hashtag to a lot of fans and they don't care like we we we hashtagging free thug but we ain't here feeling the pain of like dang he ain't here with us no more so you feeling the pain but I feel like you different than the typical fan yeah yeah you different than the typical fan so my thing with the fans is fans got power yo as. As an artist, man, my fans, when I look in the comments on Instagram and when I look at what people say,

I just dropped a new song today featuring Raheem Devon, right? It's called Purify My Eyes. People loving the song. That stuff make me feel good, man. That stuff make me be like, man, we got to go hit the lab right after this Big Fact Show and record some more music. Fans got the power to make you feel amazing. But with that being said, if your fans are going to buck you up to, man, go live that life. You rapping about it, man. Like, yeah, if fans is nudging you to really go do some toxic stuff and then when you get killed or when you get locked up, all you become is just a hashtag for them and then they on to the next artist. They, all right, rest in peace, peace such and such but we found a new favorite rapper that's gonna rap about killing or whatever now

that ain't cool man it's a lot of artists that's in jail on the graveyard right now and they have people around them who knew like man what you doing how you living how you rapping how you moving in the streets it ain't healthy it ain't safe but we ain't gonna say nothing why because it's entertaining to us you feel like you were chosen to like put this message up yeah that's where the name d1 come from i'm d1 you heard me but my first name david so i took the d from from from david and i said i'm d1 i'm i'm i'm the one bro i'm the one that was chosen to put this out here. And that don't mean that there's not others that's chosen too. But me personally, yeah, I've been through too much, bro. I done seen too much. I had to figure out why did my best friend just get murdered right

in front of our neighborhood where we grew up at? Why did these dudes hold me up, stick me up when I was in college and put that iron right here on my temple, on my right temple and about to blow my brains out? You know what I'm saying? Why was I the one who grew up listening to the Hot Boys and No Limit in New Orleans and listen to the same music? But then I won not a contest, but I got selected to go on this trip to go to Africa when I'm 13 years old. The rest of the hood, you heard me, the rest of the goose, my dog off camera, he know growing up on Dwyer Road and the goose in New Orleans, like that ain't typical. A lot of us ain't even leaving the city. I left the continent and went to Africa and had a whole different perspective on life. And I'm just like, all these things that happen, you know, stuff that I've seen my mama and daddy go through my grandparents like why and it's like oh man I'm

the one I'm one of the ones that was chosen to be around all this stuff but then figure out how to take all that and turn it into something positive at the end of the day like I'm yeah I'm pretty sure you get a lot of uh resistance but um since you be on like different rappers and shit resistance like which one which one really like made you feel away which one made me feel away so man I only really got bro I'm cool with 99% of the people who I run across to tell you the truth, the only person who I saw who showed some outward resistance to anything that I said that I was like, oh, wow, he took that real serious was like Rick Ross, right?

I seen Rick Ross go online and I was basically saying, brother, you're almost 50 years old. You blessed. You're immensely blessed you're a boss in every sense of the word at this point when I listen to your music as a fan and if I'm still hearing like dang like you glorifying murder you glorifying drug dealing in your music like what's up with that dog I feel like you could do better and his response to that you know to me saying that um was he just went to like we call it ribbon in New Orleans you know what ribbon is ribbon is like what y'all might call it joning or something or roasting he just went straight to who is you little man basket head who is you basket head he started trying to imitate my accent and talk like me and all that, make fun of me.

You fake roster. Little boy. You boy. Before you ever talk about. Hold on, hold on. What man say that now? Because. He's saying something about him.

Because I was on an interview. I had just listened to some new music that they had put out. And like I said, I'm a fan of the culture. I'm a fan of talent. I'm a fan of success, especially from our community. And when I heard the music, I was like, I was shocked, really, because I'm thinking about listening to some some stuff. It's going to tell us, you know, how you build in your empire and this, that and the third. And when I'm listening to the singles, they get put out. Man, it's talking about murking cats.

It's talking about killing this. It's talking about selling dope. I got a hundred pounds of this and dah, dah, dah. And I just was shocked. And I was just like, man, I feel like we could do better, my brother. I feel like you could do better than that. And so the response coming with that type of energy, that let me know like, you're deflecting right now. You ain't addressing nothing I said. You start talking about how many turkeys you give out in the community. I never said you don't give out out turkeys but them turkeys feed people for one day their music feed people for a lifetime and i'm just like let's talk about it brother let's talk about the impact of that you know and cats get you know cats get mad because they feel like oh well you said my name you said my name. You said my name.

You're putting content out there for the public. What you mean? But you know, like, I'm going to keep it real. You know, it's like the internet world. So you can say certain shit and people are going to feel like that shit, especially if it sounds kind of true. You know what I'm saying? You could have told me that and made me look at it a different way,

but you put it out on the internet. Now people, it's just, do you think people are just taking it the wrong way because you said something about, like, when you say a man's name, you got to be ready to stand on his name. However you want to say whatever he want to say after that or do whatever he want to do because you said his name, you put yourself in that position. Or do you think people are being just too sensitive? I think that along with a lot of success in the rap game, for a lot of people comes a lot of ego.

For sure. A lot of ego and a lot of pride. But who are you? If a nigga looking like, who the fuck is this nigga even talking about? What you mean? I'm just saying, if a nigga like, if I never knew you, like like, if I never knew you. All right. Like, me personally. I never knew you. I never knew of a D1.

I wake up tomorrow and D1 critiquing me. Well, that's the, you know. Like, who the fuck is this nigga? That's just off the rip. Yeah. It's how you feel. At least when I go on your page, I can see some DM from back in the day. You telling me, like, OG, I don't think you should be.

You know what I'm saying? I probably can respect you. Like, you reached out to me before you I don't think you should be. You know what I'm saying? I probably could respect you. Like, you reached out to me before you even went viral to get my attention. You see what I'm saying? Like, if you told Ross like, and you DM somewhere like,

I feel like that shit you pushing, I don't, it's bogus. Hey, something can't bother me if I know it ain't true. I'm going to say that much too. No, I ain't saying you was lying. You couldn't be telling the truth. You know what I'm saying?

A nigga could take it different if you tell them first. Rob Markman Give them that nigga going to look like you clout chasing. Rob Markman Well, bro, you know how long I've been famous for? Rob Markman No, but you get what I'm saying though, right? Can you get it from that perspective? Rob Markman I definitely can.

Rob Markman That's all I'm saying. Rob Markman I get where you're coming from. It's just that when Cash run to the same old clout, because it was Joe Budden was talking that talk too. Like, who is this dude? He just clout because it was it was it was joe budden was talking that talk too like who is this dude he just clout chasing it's like dog google is your friend my brother go to google and type in dee dash the number one and you're gonna see how long i've been standing on this same tip for i've been i've been saying these same type of things just like bro i love hip-hop i'm a hip-hop baby but at a certain point man we could do better in terms of our culture. And it's different when you are OG versus you are YG.

You're just a teenager that's trying to figure life out. Your brain is still forming. Or you're in your 20s and you're just coming into the money for the first time. That hit different when you're a little kid coming up in this game. And we supposed to be here as OGs to help guide you. But what if you are OG but you really not, we need to stop calling people OGs and I'm not talking about anybody specific when I say this, but we need to stop calling people OGs just because they are older at this point. You might be a DG, that's a disappointing grown up, you hear

me? Straight up. That's big facts, you hear me? I need a cup up that's big facts you heard me I need a cup that's big that's big facts right there brother like we got we got a lot of disappointing grown-ups in this culture man um and we got to call a spade a spade so there has to be a way to have these conversations to where people realize like man this dude not hating on me personally. This dude is serving God. We all say we believe in God. And I'm looking at it like, man, I don't think God would be pleased with me if he be like, wait, brother, so I had you down there on earth. But you know niggas is ignorant, though.

Okay. A lot of niggas is ignorant. Cool. If you're prepared to go, like, if a nigga do take it the wrong way, is you prepared for that? I already was prepared for it. I responded. Once I got responded to

in a certain type of way, I responded in love. I responded, what's up, my brother? I'm saying a nigga who like, fuck all that love shit. When I see that nigga, I'm at him.

Dumb kind of nigga. Retarded niggas. Bro. You get what I'm saying? Listen, the thing is, too, like, a lot of people might not be familiar with who you are and what your

message is. Yeah, they take that shit in disrespect. So they're just looking at it like you just a nigga trying to tear down what they got going on. Yes. Yeah. I don't see that for you. Everything you say, I believe you believe what you're saying.

Yeah. And that's hard for me. Yeah. To believe a nigga believe what he's actually saying. Right. Because so many niggas is selling shit and I believe however you feel. I believe you. That's why I asked you

when I said, do you feel like you was chosen to do this? So it means like you're in your purpose. But a nigga can't see that from afar. See, you right. You right. What I care about more than how somebody going to feel is how God going to feel when I got to stand in front of him and he be like, so look, D, so I put you in the rap game.

You seen all this going on in your industry and you was too scared to say something because you was worried about what another person was going to think about you. Man, you lame, D. I don't want God to tell me I'm lame. Yeah, we can put it like that, yeah. But. Yeah, but. You're right. A little like that, yeah. But. Yeah, but. Right. It's a touch.

This shit is like, sometimes you have to adapt. Like, we was just talking to another kid from, who say the internet is the way, like, we have to look at shit for it. This shit has changed. Like, I get what you're saying. Like, it used to be times when niggas love to goddamn be checked. Like, oh yeah, you right, bro. Niggas will hear you out.

These days, nobody want to hear you out because it's too easy to get embarrassed. And then the internet don't forget. And that's the shit, God. Everybody is afraid and got anxiety to get embarrassed on the internet. So with that being said, niggas ready to protect their internet image over anything. You be saying some real shit. You be telling the truth, nigga like fuck that nigga don't mention my name. Rob Markman Yeah.

Yeah. And I feel like, man, that's a great point right there. So then you got to ask yourself, damn, how do we deal with that? Because what you basically saying, I'm reading between the lines is even if cats is pushing out some evil some negativity some hatred they want it to go unopposed because they like yes i i dare you to say something about it though you know i dare you yeah just stay out my business stay out my business but when you do now i feel tried there you go and and so i feel like i feel like that's a trick of the enemy bro that's it is that's a trick of the enemy, bro. That's a trick of the devil.

I want to be able to do evil, but I want it to be unopposed. Because if somebody try to oppose it, we call them a clout chaser. We call it a hater. That's like really a trick. That's almost like your landlord saying, listen, I want the right to be able to raise your rent each month. But you can't say nothing because I got a clause in this lease that says if you say something about me raising the rent every month, then I could kick you out of here. That just ain't right, brother. That ain't right, bro. So it's just to that point to where it's like, well, how do you

approach these conversations? And I think that's the thing. We can't not have these conversations though. It's too many rappers that we all love they're black men and women just like us and we seen their life get compromised and messed up and all this man because of everybody's seen it coming you seen the path they was going down but it was just entertaining to y'all or nobody wanted to seem like a hater so nobody wanted to say nothing and you watch that person mess their whole life up man like and more so than the rappers it's the fans bro what we didn't talk about is y'all don't know i don't think y'all like man i was a middle school teacher before i was a rapper bro i was a whole teacher really really

jade so before i became d1 and got in this game, I was sitting here teaching students in Baton Rouge, watching every student want to be just like Boosie. Watching every student want to be like Gates. You know what I'm saying? Watching how much influence Lil Wayne had on one of my students. So my student came in class, an eighth grader with MOB tattooed on his arm. And he didn't even know what MOB stood for, but he got it because Lil Wayne got MOB tattooed on his arm and he ain't even know what mob stood for but he got it because lil wayne got mob tattooed on his chest i'm seeing that type of stuff in person this ain't no internet stuff this is before instagram even existed so when i'm seeing the type of influence that rap is having on the fans i know you always got them fans that's gonna say rap ain't never make me do

nothing i mean i could listen to it but then i just I don't go out and do it. I get that. Cool. And congratulations. Kudos to you and to me. Because rapping ain't never make me jump off the porch and go, you know, live that type of life. But I have been around the people who it definitely had that type of influence. You saying you know it exists.

You witness it. I know the influence exists. I witness it. I can't call my best friend no more because he dead now. You heard me? And I saw the influence that the music that we was listening to had on him. And he had great parents, great family. But I just seen that it's like, man.

So you advocate for them people. Yeah. Who ain't got the strong will. They ain't got no voice and they ain't got no strong will. Exactly. I didn't mind people calling me a nerd in school. Oh, look at him. He doing his work.

Oh, he one of them smart kids in school he take books home in uh at night he's doing his homework yeah meanwhile we in new orleans you heard but we catching the rta and my friend when they telling him that he's sitting there like and i see it's getting to him he like dang i don't want these people making fun of me no more man i'm gonna do what i gotta do to fit in with them i want their acceptance you want the acceptance of the goons. So you got to become a goon to get their acceptance. Me, I was like, well, everybody ain't going to like me, but I'm not finna dumb down who I am just to make them people like me. Like I had that in me. He ain't all the way had that in him. And we was the same person, man. Me and Carl was twins,

basically. You know what I'm saying? So I done been around this stuff. I know the influence it has. So for these rappers to not know the influence it has, I have people who, man, these people done changed. They hit me up every day and tell me how much my music has helped them change their life, save their marriage, get them through high school, get them through a prison beat. Kodak Black hitting me up, man. Thank you, brother. Them letters, y'all know how much that motivated me. I know the impact I have and I ain't never went flat. So imagine the artist that went flat, you heard me? An artist that got a different level of success in terms of finances and all that than what I got. I know the influence that they got and I think they know the influence they got

too. And I think they just sit there and be like, well, you know what? I'm going to still rap about this stuff but I'm going to give out turkeys at Thanksgiving. And that's going to make, ain't that what Nino Brown did? Give out turkeys. Meanwhile,

you selling dope to the whole hood? What'd you say? Somebody gotta sell it. At the end of the day, bro, it's a bonus inside of the room. I ain't condoning no ignorance. Right? But this shit

fucked up. Like you said, it's the fans. It is. Because if you try to go rap with something that you not no more, it's like a, what you call it? An imbalance? A double-edged sword. It's a sign of growth, though. I always bring up the same one.

No, it's a sign of growth. Yeah, like Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg ain't rapping about what he did when he first got in the game. He don't kind of evolve. He'll still let you know I'm crippin', all that type of stuff, but he don't kind of like... He raps his evolving. And this is not to go at nobody or nothing like that, but I think there is a science to it.

You know what I'm saying? In respect to of just expression though, the reality is when you say something about murder and everything like that, what if that's the environment? What if you were that Chicago rapper and that's all you know? When you wake up, when you go to sleep, that's all you see, that's all you're exposed to. You might not have been exposed to the world or you haven't evolved in that science yet to rap about something else. So I kind of dance on both sides of it. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's it.

Yeah, that's how I feel too. That's an amazing point. That's why I never ever talk about the younger rappers because I'm knowing that they the ones who, that probably is their reality. That probably is their reality. But if you sitting here and you sitting on a hundred million dollar empire that you done built, if you on private jets, if you didn't clearly made it, you ammed up and you're older at this point. And I'm not saying older, like to try to make fun of nobody, but you literally older, you in your late thirties, you in your forties, some people in their fifties, you have graduated from that phase of life that you're talking about that that part so i'm intentional about that because i always look at the youth ever since i was a teacher and i'm just like man this ain't no bad dude right here man freddo bang that was my middle school student man i look at

freddo i'm like this ain't no bad dude right here he just uh he a little kid he trying to grow he might he my middle school student like literally you see that and you see he got a lot of potential in him and it's our job as adults to pour into these youth to make sure that they can reach their potential but what happens when it's the adult that's doing the stuff that's like hold on man you older than me and you still acting like this how do you how do you approach that i think you got to approach it different than you approach a child you So let me ask you this. With that same philosophy, how do you feel about Jay-Z when he made Blue Magic?

When he made Blue Magic, that was on the American Gangster soundtrack. Yeah. And he was talking about the selling dope. See, the artistic part about something like that is that soundtrack was literally the soundtrack to go with the movie so it was like whatever the movie had going on jay-z literally made it known i'm making songs that match with scenes in this movie as opposed to i'm making songs just about how i'm living currently i think that that's the nuance with an example like that. Yeah. But do you think that when older rappers or more mature rappers speak to current things that are going on in the street, do you think that they're automatically saying that this is how I'm living now?

Or they're saying that this is what's going on in the streets from my current perspective beautiful beautiful question yeah that's that's good that's super good question thank you we got to know the difference between narration and glorification some of these dudes is really good at narrating what's going on in the street and they're describing the social conditions my favorite rapper of all time is Nas. I feel like- Yeah, Nas is hard. We clearly know that Nas grew up in the streets.

You heard me? We clearly know he grew up in QB, Queensbridge projects, all that stuff. But Nas has a way of talking about what's going on without saying, I'm the one, you heard me, that's finna come walk you down. I'm the one that's out here murking this and murking that and da-da-da. And that way we feel like we can relate to it because he talking about what's going on around here. You saying basically Nas, Nas, Nair, Raheem, Kodone. There you go.

The Kodone part. Yeah, I got a good ear and all of us got an ear to where we can hear like man when these people are rapping like this like you listen to these lyrics this ain't just talking about what's going on this is saying i will do this to you i'm doing this i'm gonna give my partner a bag to come do this to you we ain't crazy so when we hearing that we ain't crazy nobody ever gonna make me think I'm crazy. That's one thing. You heard me? Big fact. Nobody ever gonna make me think I'm crazy, bro. No.

I don't drink. I don't smoke. I ain't knocking. Nobody who do keep doing it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm keep doing it. I ain't crazy, though, bro. So when people try to make it seem like, but D, don't you think this?

So I'm crazy because I smoke? No, no. Not because you smoke. No. You crazy. God bless you. Bless So I'm crazy Cause I smoke No no not cause you smoke No you God bless you Bless you You crazy Octopus Nah

You crazy You crazy bank elf If you was to try to Make it seem like D you hearing this music wrong bro They not glorifying killing. I be having people who, and I ain't even going to say their name, but y'all know who y'all is, man. Y'all interview me, and y'all just want a sound bite out of me.

Y'all just want like, oh, let's make it seem like D1 got beef with this artist. So they sitting here playing dumb. We ain't trying to do that. I know. I know. This big fact. Yeah, yeah. You say them folk names.

I ain't ask you about no fact. Yeah, but even me saying their name, I'm talking about stuff that didn't happen fact. Yeah, yeah. You said them folk names. I ain't ask you about no facts. Yeah, but even me saying their name, I'm talking about stuff that didn't happen already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get what I'm saying? But they got people who try to make it seem like I'm crazy to be like, B, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't think people be glorifying murder in their music, ever. If you got an example, go ahead on.

Give me an example. Say it. I'll be like, brother. You got something? Look at him. That's good like, brother. You got something? Let's go viral right now. Betsy, Betsy. Won't you tell me, babe?

Are there any rappers you could think of that glorify murder in their music? All of them. Say some names. All of them. Everybody do it. I've done it. And is that okay? Shit. I can't say it. The way I look at it now, it ain't okay, but I get it.

You want to know what I get? I get it because at the end of the day, you still making the soundtrack of life and niggas is actually out here doing the same shit. Some niggas got their mind made up. And I hate to sound ignorant. Some niggas got their mind made up. Like the nigga that you influencing now, that's fucked up. Who ain't made up their mind. But some niggas already mind made up. And I hate to sound ignorant, some niggas got their mind made up. Like the nigga that you influencing now, that's fucked up, who

ain't made up their mind. But some niggas already mind made up, and niggas feel like they're making the music for niggas who mind made up. Soundtrack to their lifestyle. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you. What's the difference? You know, I want to tell you. We could all name, but listen, man. Oh yeah, this about to get good.

That's the soundtrack to people's lifestyle who mind is made up. I guarantee you that the people that's listening to murder music, 99% of them ain't never killed nothing. And ain't going to never kill nothing over the course of their life. So it's actually not the soundtrack to people who got their mind made up. No, no, no. What he's saying is that. Destiny and inspiration. mind made up no no no what he's saying is is that that's the inspiration is true enough the people 99 of the people that are listening to murder music probably have never smoked nothing but

the niggas who are making the music and the niggas who are in the studio with me basically talking about what they're living and that's how they're getting their material and that's how they're able to be consistent not really what they're living but their peers, like what's going on in the hood. Like you said, like niggas, most of you rappers are sponges. They hang around niggas who actually know what's going on. You get what I'm saying? So they seeing the temperature of the streets. This is the temperature of the street.

This what's going on. They go straight in the booth and narrate, but put theyself in them same shoes as if though they what we doing. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Like that goes on. That goes on a lot. But what I'm saying is I can see

because niggas have a studio full of niggas. These niggas that talk about stories. You know, so-and-so got that car store. You ain't got that car shot. Hey man, them folk put a fit on them niggas. So niggas is drawing doing their art right then. They downloading that shit, go straight in the booth and rap about what day people who gonna be in outside while they're rapping They looking through that goddamn glass. Oh, these niggas feeling this. Yeah, and there you go

That's a prime example of people Wanting to do what other people gonna like as opposed to saying man on my totem pole of identity, I value God more than I value other people's opinions. And if you always value God at the top of that totem pole, you're going to be like, F what y'all want here. You heard me? I'm thinking it's God going to be proud of how I'm using myself. That's because you're a hip-hop head. Some of you niggas looking at this shit

as a business. I ain't even the same nigga when I go in that booth. When I leave out the studio in the booth, I go home to my bitch. I'm different. I ain't even know rapping no more I'm regular and that's lame How you gonna say how that's lame? Yo, how you gonna say that because you acting like this really you nobody's getting on the beginning of this song saying disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer Everything We talked about this. Yeah. We talked about this. No, I'm totally with you on all of that.

I'm totally with you on all that. We had a big debate about this last year. We had a big blow up about this whole discussion. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, my thing is- Yeah, nigga, put a warning on this shit. Might have known at the end of this shit I was lying. Go ahead.

Yeah, but I'm speaking to the niggas that really are doing this shit. They really are in the field seeing this shit. They really are trying to basically make some music that they know that other niggas like them in other places that are doing the same shit and that are seeing the same shit and that are going through the same shit can relate to. Mm. Mm. We actually need to be talking to the fans and telling the fans, how can y'all stop having a taste for something that none of y'all want to get murdered? Fans, none of y'all want your loved ones to get murdered. None of y'all want to go to jail. So we need to talk to the fans to say, what work do y'all need to do to stop having a taste for this and wanting this? Because I,

one of y'all brought up a good point about artists who want to evolve, man. They got artists who want to evolve. I know you know this scream. They got artists who want to evolve, but they be like, man, my fans ain't going to want to hear nothing.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every nigga that done tried that, they want, want, want it. They want, want, want it. Say is the truth. This is the truth. Every nigga. This is the truth. Every nigga that done tried that, they want, want, want it. They want, want, want it. Say, brother, them people, like, I be proud of Jeezy.

You heard me? I be proud of Jeezy. Like, man, look at Jeezy evolving. Even the music. And then you got people that be like- But Jeezy already done solidified a fan base, though. Like that's going- They going to follow him wherever he go.

They growing with him. All the age he getting to now, like, we all in the same age bracket. We all got them looking at that like, let go, bro. We all going. Bro, you still got them G's. You right here with us. We going up.

All of us going up together. All of us going up, yeah. He ain't trying to get no new fans. I think it's personal choice too because I feel like Dirk has evolved like crazy. Dirk has chose to evolve. Now, he'll still spit that shit for sure you know i'm saying but see dirk is still a young nigga though so it's

like yeah he's trying not to be dirt he dirt he finessed it a little bit more with the word so it doesn't sound as harsh and that's an art that's an art. That's an art, though. N.W.A. was masterful at their art. But at the end of the day, the message is still the same for the most part. Like, you know, he had All My Life and, you know, he had, like, other positive songs, but he's still

speaking to the trenches. I think the temperature of the music is changing anyway, though. I think niggas like D1 done got a hold to this shit. Because the temperature of the music is changing anyway, though. I think niggas like D1 done got a hold to this shit because the temperature of the music is actually changing. The worst is niggas

ain't even on that no more. A lot of niggas coming away from all that. All that shit, though. Y'all ain't been listening to shit. A lot of niggas... They're seeing the result of it. Huh?

They're seeing the real-time result of it. They're seeing the real-time result. Hey, we say we believe in God. I know y'all feel how y'all feel about the Bible, but in the Bible, which I adhere to, in the Bible, Proverbs 18 and 21, it says there's life and death in the power of the tongue. For sure.

They had a smart nigga who wrote the motherfucker, put some good shit in there. Man, look, don't get me started with that. I'm just saying. It was just the interpreter. Yeah, it's like, it's a nigga pussy. It's some smart people, bro. The people who wrote the Bible. Whoever thought we supposed to be slaves and shit, they were smart, bro. You said the people that wrote the Bible weren't.

Hold on, hold on. Let me finish this. Let me finish this. Anybody who thought that we supposed to be slaves, we supposed to be enlisting because of the color of our skin, they were smart people. They strategized that, right? The people who wrote the Bible didn't think that black people were supposed to be enslaved. Nah, fuck.

Nah, fuck. Damn the people that wrote the Bible. The people that thought we were slaves, let's skip to them. Right. Right? You talking about the slave masters, like the people in this country. Whoever thought of the first thing like let's go get some niggas and grab over here. All right. Whoever thought of that, was that smart? Europeans, was that smart? I know you about to say yeah that was smart. I'm asking you. On some business stuff you gonna say yeah that was smart. I'm asking you. Man that was devilish man going to say, yeah, that was smart. I'm asking you. Man, that was devilish, man. OK, but does devilish sometimes be smart? Does devilish ways sometimes go into smart ways? Don't they be strategic and thought out plans to trick

niggas? Do that happen? I see where you're coming from. Yes. I'm asking a question. Do that happen? Can you mischievously put a person in a position? Be a genius, mysterious person.

Yes. A serpent is clever. A evil genius. A serpent is clever. Exactly. Can you be an evil genius? Okay. And that evil shit can take the world to where it is now and we are less than still.

We are everything. We kill our own people. We have a sense of, we have the shit that you try to fix now you're talking about music that's already been fucked up from back before music and before anything when the first nigga first said I tell you what a suck first nigga did that that's the same mentality that's going on they just elevate cuz it's on the internet now right it's all the same mentality that's going on now. It's just elevated because it's on the internet now. It's all the same shit.

So that couldn't have been strategic. Okay, so the same motherfuckers who was in, and I ain't trying to be no woke nigga, so y'all don't got them sitting down at me. The same niggas who was back before the Bible. I mean, before slavery, them niggas wrote the Bible. I mean, before slavery, them niggas wrote the Bible. Do you think a nigga wrote the Bible?

Like, have you read? Who wrote the Bible? The people who wrote the Bible, bro, they were people who were influenced like God literally spoke through them and inspired them to make their words. Who know them? I wasn't alive. What a document set though.

Everything has They have computers back there. What kind of document you looking for? They have hieroglyphics in the fucking tombs in Egypt. So where is the shit from the hieroglyphics

from the tombs in Egypt? Do y'all know how many biblical artifacts there are that exist in this world? Where? What'd it say? I'm not no geologist. I will definitely go find it for you. Absolutely. Let me say this. Artifacts there are that exist in this world where cool what it say I'm not no geologist

Let me say this what other what other where's the blood where are there were see what a bloodline You know the bloodline like the bloodline like no matter how they ever go however this shit go we don't know who Malcolm is Great great great great great great granddaughter., great, great granddaughter. To be able to trace that shit back. Great, great, great, great. We don't know where they bloodline. Where the fuck is them folk bloodlining? How far, when you go to Ancestry.com, that stuff don't go back to the Jesus days, brother. I'm sorry. So where that shit at?

So you just think people didn't exist back then? No. That's what you think. Since we can't prove it, you think people just didn't exist. Like, got you. Got you. Got you. What's up?

What's up? They were dinosaurs. All right, so hold up. Hold up. Hold up. You think your great, great, great grandpa was a dinosaur. That's what you think. No, no, no.

You right by what you saying, but let me make this. OK. So we don't know who they kid folks is is how the fuck this story last this long if it ain't the truth it ain't gonna last that long brother so if I'm your brother that's the truth and if I'm your brother's son and your son brother's son

and son brother's son and son brother's son all that is lasting so what Jesus last name was where the fuck the rest of the crisis is? Bro. Where the fuck the rest of the crisis is? Hey. I'm just.

Hey bro. Hey bro. Who not here? My name is Bay. Hey. Hey. I'm just talking shit but come on. Nah you.

Where the fuck the rest of the crisis is? No because a lot of. You're looking at him right here. You're looking at him right here. Hey I'm just talking shit but come on Where the fuck the rest of the crisis is Cause a lot of You're looking at him right here You're looking at him right here Your name is not Christ sir No no no your last name ain't whatever you think it is Oh my god

Hey my real last name ain't Augustine Like that's what it say but that's slavery That's somebody that slept with My great great great grandma Where the rest of the crisis at Augustine. Like, that's what it said, but that's slavery. That's somebody that slept with my great-great-great-grandma. That's what I'm saying. Where the rest of the crisis at? Bro, that's funny. That's hilarious, actually. No, but I'm really...

I'm telling you, you're looking at it, bro. We all his descendants, bro. I'm seriously interested. My two questions is... That's why I can't have no opps, because I'm looking at it like, bro, what I look like having an opp when we was all made from the same creator? You going to tell me you my opp because you from the other block down the street? That make you my opp, man?

You crazy. All that come from the same shit that I told y'all. They put us in the pot back in the day to make you hate anything that look like you. You envy it, hate it. That shit ain't been invented. So how do we break the cycle? Who gonna be the first nigga to try to do that? Me. You looking at it.

You interviewing them. And I definitely ain't the first one. It's so many people that's been doing this before me. Even if you touch it, you gonna touch a hundred out of thousand, bro. That's 10%. That's good, but at the end, I can feel like, cause you a powerful nigga like, I fuck with you, I can feel like, because you're a powerful nigga, like, I fuck with you,

I fuck with you before I even, you know, I don't agree with everything you say because you get in nigga business a lot, but at the end of the day, that's your business.

But I still agree with you when you be in nigga's business. But I just know what come with that shit, like, and how niggas could look at it different

than how you, what you trying to push out. But fuck all that. What I'm saying is, at the end of the day, I know. What the fuck I was just saying? This nigga crazy. No, you were talking about a lot of shit. I'm still stuck on where the rest of the crisis is.

Well, no, listen. Hey, you a smart nigga. When certain shit makes sense, a nigga nigga be like, damn, I ain't think about that. And I respect, this is what I respect about this platform, number one, is that everybody is on here being themselves. You the dude who, you gonna say something that you know, I couldn't have pictured neither one of them

saying that just now. But you saying it, I'm like, he ain't trolling, he being real. Then when Jay come with, hold on, D, like I feel like this about, you know, what you saying and how this, like, he ain't trolling. He being real. Then when Jay come with hold on D, like I feel like this about, you know, what you saying and how it is, da da da. I'm just like, dang. Jay gonna hit you with that reality that you can't deny it. You gonna say something

funny that's real. Scream gonna come with the, man, I see both sides of the coin. With everything, I see both sides of the coin. The diplomat. You know what I mean? The diplomat. And I respect that. And then when people see, man, D1, man, that dude there, bro, he, look, I don't agree, but he 100. Like, he really staying on.

And what that does is, is people going to watch this at home and be like, man, I can't knock none of them because we seeing black people unified because they choosing to communicate. That's it. That's facts. Absolutely. Real shit right there. Big fact. One thing that Bank is saying though that is very, very,

very, very important. He portrays it the way that he does. We should be able to ask questions about anything. About a religion. About this and that and the third. We should be able to ask questions without it just being, this is what it is. That shit make 100%. You never found a

contradiction like reading the Bible? I have found contradictions reading the Bible. I have found contradictions. And the contradictions that I found was mainly between the Old Testament and the New Testament. So the Old Testament, like the first part of the Bible, the Old Testament

thick too. They had stuff that, man, they had a lot more killing, they had a lot more behavior that was being permitted. They talking about, look, the way we rock, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. There was a lot of stuff in there that is not

up to par with the standards that quote unquote Bible people try to preach. Hold up, hold up, hold up. I don't want to say this. And I said I'm trying to get counsel, but I'm finna go on the set. Who wrote the first Bible?

No real shit. Who wrote the first Bible? The people who wrote the first Bible. King James or something, right? That's not the first Bible. There's all these translations. And I see what you're talking about. When you get the King James version and then you get this translation and this translation,

what people end up being like is like, yo, so you mean to tell me somebody different took this whole book and wrote it the way they wanted it to be? The answer is yes. But the other part of that is that's not a period, that's a comma. Yes, comma, but what they wrote in the different translations a lot of times them translations was just to fit the language of that time in that place so if you wrote the atlanta version of the bible it'll be a whole bunch of mains and a whole bunch of how y'all talk out here in atlanta it'll be a whole bunch of that slang in it if i wrote the new orleans version of the bible it'd be like say dog you hear me look let me tell you what's down baby oh so so that boy jesus you did he had and i'll write it in new orleans terms that's what the different translations be like, say, dog, you hear me? Look, let me tell you what's down, baby. So that boy Jesus, you dig? He had

and I write it in New Orleans terms. That's what the different translations of the Bible is. It's not different stories. But with that, but with that, you's almost I brought my for the... Tell me two different translations you done read that

the stories is not the same. I'm talking about like... The versions. Yeah, the versions, not the stories. I'm saying like the Old Testament and the New Testament. It's two different writers, right? The Old Testament and the New Testament. You know what the New Testament is? The New Testament is from the time Jesus was born. That's the difference, brother.

But they said, I thought they said and I don't know how to say this. I thought they said in the first Old Testament like it was forbidden for man to be a man, right? And I don't know how to say this. I thought they said in the first Old Testament, like it was forbidden for man to be a man, right? Forbidden for man to be a man? For man to be with man. For man to be with man. Oh, for man to be with man.

Yeah. Sexually. And that's still forbidden. Okay, but they said, how do you call these people? Sodom and Gomorrah. Sodom and Gomorrah. I said, how do you call these people's other gender without offending them? How do you say that?

Homosexuals. All right. They said a homosexual wrote the Second Testament, right? The New Testament. No, sir. Who said that? I never heard that. You went on Wikipedia?

Google. They said King James was a homosexual. King James didn't write the New Testament. Well, there's King James versions. There are King James versions of the Bible floating around. No, there's King James versions. Guess who wrote the book of Matthew? I'm going to give you one guess.

You ain't got to be a genius to get this. Guess who wrote the book of Matthew? Matthew wrote it. Guess who wrote the book of John? John wrote it. Nah, but how the hell we going to let Buddy put it out? Matthew wrote it guess who wrote the book of John No, I'm gonna tell you you know why Bro, this is gonna go this need to go viral this how the same way I can go to Patchwork Studio and D1 go record in Patchwork Studio.

And then I got to take them recordings and I put them and I give them to my label. And by the time it come out, it say, oh, RCA Records put this out. How RCA Records put this out? Do that mean RCA Records wrote D1's rhymes? No, D1 wrote them rhymes. He went to Patchwork Studio to record them, and then he turned them in at RCA Records. But how did, but okay, so here's my question. You good, you good, you good. Here's my question. If that's the case,

how did this nigga King James even get the authority to put out a version of the Bible, and he was gay? Bro, you act like I know King James. I don't know this dude, man. What is know King James. I don't know this dude, man. What is you talking about? I don't know this man. Big face.

I don't know this man, Jay. Y'all got all this smoke for me, man. I'm a rapper, bro. I'm a rapper and a teacher and a God, no, bro. My bad. Give me your hand. Hey, I don't know. I don't have the answer for you.

I read. I read. Hell yeah. I'm vouching for Jesus, y'all. They sent you and shit. They sent me. Hey, bro. Get him on the phone, nigga.

FaceTime him, nigga. You're looking at him. Again, like we always kind of... Have you ever seen 12 Years a Slave? Nope. I've seen less than 30 movies my whole life. I don't really watch it. Come on, man.

I'm serious. I ain't seen a lot. You've never seen 12 Years a Slave? I ain't seen it. When you leave 12 years of slave i ain't you need like when you leave here you need to go watch that so you can understand like where we're coming from with this shit because nigga you told me 12 years of slave basically explains the slavery shit the nat turner rebellion and how the the the colorless people

took the bible and and and preached it to us because we weren't a lot of us weren't able to read and like fully comprehend and made us think that the bible wanted us to be enslaved. There you go. I'm not saying that it's not supposed to be. It's not God. I'm just saying. How the fuck I'm going to believe anything that came from the fold. We knew who the fuck we were.

It's one word, five. I can't believe dictionary. Dictionary said my color. I'm a black. So I said I can't believe it. Dictionary. Dictionary said my color. I'm a black. So they said I'm dark. They said white is pure. How the fuck I'm going to believe anything? Everything that McDonald's been saying that a nigga's supposed to do wasn't right.

They said a nigga's supposed to be with one bitch. That shit don't feel right. And nobody laughed. I'm just being real. That shit don't feel right. Okay, bro. Even though we do, it don't feel normal for men. In other countries, niggas, hey, man, you're as strong as how many kids you have and the sons you have.

He had 17 sons. His son have 17 sons. Our name is lasting forever. We making tribes. That nigga might got one son and a daughter. Your name ain't going to die in 60 years. You over with. I'm about to tell you.

I got a good answer for this. Let me say this one time. Do you think that relationship, how they put relationship in the Bible is to contain us from being as deep as we would be. Because you know niggas going to have kids.

Okay, concubines are the concubines are the concubines. That way they're concubines. Niggas going to have 10. Just think about it. We can produce, bro. So just think about if you had 10 wives, you gave all of them 10 boys. Yeah, it's a scientific fact that melanated people are extremely more fertile than colorless people. How powerful are you, bro?

But how powerful are we even if we did have way more of us on Earth if we don't know how to get along with each other? And if we don't love each other? And if we still out here hating on each other? That's why, no, in fact, that's why it all was a plan. We're going to tell these niggas, have one bitch. And we're going to let y'all turn against each other just in case y'all know. I'm telling you, this is all a part of a big elaborate scheme and see the system is designed right you don't believe that you turned into an activist go ahead i'm listening no but i i believe that like from like

y'all won't blame niggas all right because i've already been retarded before too i'm just being real i've already been fucked up in my head too, thinking that the way I was thinking was correct. What made you change? I don't know. God. Oh, for real? Yeah. God.

What make you believe in God? You can't see him. No, I believe it. It gotta be something. It's something. I'm going to tell you what it is. It's called faith. How you make your money outside of here?

Shit, I don't make no money outside of here. All right. All right. So, hold up, question, question. They might be watching. Question, question. So, however y'all make y'all money, I know we do similar things. So, I know when you get booked, you know what I mean? You get your deposit up front, you get your back end, dah, dah, dah, right? It still take faith for us to feel like you're going to drop that back end off when I pull up to the venue. It still take faith because I had to fly all the way out to that city.

You heard me? I had to fly. I'm about to be booked in. I'm of all places. I'm booked in South Dakota on Thursday, Dallas tomorrow, South Dakota Thursday and Tallahassee on Saturday. Right. I got faith that they all have that back end when I get there. But before I get that back end, I still got to fly out there with the faith that they're going to deliver on it. We'll have faith when it comes to other people in this world. Dirty, crooked, shysty people in this world.

We'll have faith that, oh, he's going to drop that back end off, da-da-da. But when it comes to God, man, how I know that that's even real? How I know that... But see, how I know no no no hold on because nobody's questioning God or God's ability we're talking about the Bible

and it's Jesus shit that's what we're talking about we're not talking about God y'all questioning if Jesus existed I didn't say Jesus didn't exist but I say I believe Jesus exists, but I believe, like, Nipsey could have been Jesus. Niggas like that

could have been a Jesus. We talking about special niggas. I'm saying prophets. I'm just saying special niggas that... Nipsey had the spirit of Jesus in him, but that don't mean that Nipsey was Jesus. I'm saying, like, I'm not saying the actual Jesus. Like, we can make that nigga so popular that he live forever

Why do the King's who pop that's Jesus? No, it's just a popular story It's not a popular story. That was a no He's using black is using the the Tupac popular story as a parallel for this Bible shit Because at the end of the day imagine if we if we said, if we wrote a Bible today, all right, the whole world, everybody, mind go blank. You want to write the Bible. Your hero, your hero is going to be Jesus.

Well, look, here's the thing. If you don't know no other hero, no other God. Hey, this was the son of God. He was a prophet. This nigga Kanye West, he went against everything. He went against all us. He's the smartest man ever he's the you're gonna make him jesus now we saying this is jesus now two thousand i'm not saying this is what happened i'm saying this is a possibility if we thinking outside the box so listen so for the people who feel like that first

of all that's a great point that you're bringing up absolutely great point and so for the people who want to spend their whole life down here being like, I don't know, brother. It just ain't enough evidence for me or I don't get it. It ain't had enough. My thing is like this.

You can choose to do that and when you die, let's see what happen to you. I'm choosing to believe in Jesus. And when I die, we're going to see what happens. That's your faith and your religion.

I think he's just speaking like, in my family, I got Buddhists, Christians, Christians, Muslims, all great people at heart that I love and they're good people. I don't think that they going to fry when they leave here because they don't choose my religion. I think that's what he kind of getting at. We all as African, I know the Yoruba religion existed way before. That's me right there.

You see what I'm saying? That shit feel, I ain't going't getting caught in shit but that feels like you know how bro it's just like I couldn't be with my wife if I had questions.

I can't do nothing with doubt. So your wife ain't never made you mad or made you have to be like Doubt her? No.

Your wife ain't never Doubt her? No. No? So that means so she perfect? I ain't gonna say she perfect but I ain't never Doubt her no No So that means So she perfect I ain't gonna say she perfect But I ain't never doubted her

She did things That make me upset Make me wanna punch her ass out Everything But I never doubted How she felt about me Never So how could you doubt

How God feel about you When God gave you I ain't not You gotta stop No bro So Jesus is God Jesus is God In human form.

To you. According to the word of God, the Bible. What word? But that's not the word. The Bible isn't the word of God. The Bible is the word of man's interpretation from these niggas that you said God spoke to. Bro, y'all act like God had a pencil and was just like, all right, give me, let me, I got a pencil. So how can we believe it?

That's what I'm saying. Did y'all see the book of Clarence? Did y'all see the book of Clarence? Pencil and was just like I give me let me I gotta know how can we believe it? Did y'all see the book of Clarence? Did y'all see the book of Clarence have anybody seen it? That nigga finesse and he decided nigga like oh they healing he looked at the Jesus he became a Jesus right finesse Right, right like but you always got a knockoff. You got the real Louis Vuitton. You got the knockoff Louis Vuitton Okay, so so you got the rich Jesus. I wasoff. You got the real Louis Vuitton and you got the knockoff Louis Vuitton. Okay, so. So you got the real Jesus. How are we going to say Jesus is the real Jesus? Why we can't say Jesus is my father? Because if he ain't the real Jesus, who the real Jesus is?

Shit. I'll wait. But you still. We don't know. We don't know him either. D1. So completely real. Like, I read all of these scriptures, top to bottom, to be honest.

And I live by Psalms. I love Psalms. It's, top to bottom, to be honest. And I live by Psalms. I love Psalms. It's like poetry to me, right? But when I was a teenager, I went into an actual church and asked a lot of questions to the head of that church. Right. And when the questions became a little too late, he asked a lot of questions. Son, some of this stuff you're just going to have to take as faith. That's not what I choose to do.

I want to ask questions. I want to know. If you don't know, say you just don't know. So I'm not knocking anybody's religion. I just know that these are, I wouldn't be in business with them if they weren't God-fearing people. Right. I understand what you're saying because some of my aunties are the same way. Jesus and Christ and this is the belief and I respect that.

Right. You know what I'm saying? But the God coalition, God is within all of us, right? So we know that God is within all of us. This is part of the problem. Religion can be somewhat separating. You see what I'm saying? Right.

We're having a good conversation, but it's like everybody's going to believe what they're going to believe regardless. No, no, no. You know what I'm saying? There's no type of way about that. No, no, no. Not at all. You don't get it. But work for me don't work for me.

You say I don't get what? You don't get what I'm saying. Yeah. I get what you're saying. No, no. I actually appreciate what y'all are saying because watch this. I see how God is working in this moment because they got so many people at home watching this like, man, Jay's saying what I be thinking.

And the thing is, D1 ain't no pastor, right? But since D1 is a man of God and D1 is a Christian and he ain't shy about that when D1 come here it's like well we finna ask D1 all these questions that we got and I respect that and so for me I'm knowing that like yo as much as I do know the word of God and as much as I rep for it that there's also a point to where I recognize that there's people who do this for a living. It's called people who study apologetics. Let me ask you something.

Apologetics means you know how to defend what you believe in to the fullest. Do you think that, okay, how many different religions is it? How many different religions? I'm saying that you think. In the world? There's a lot of religions. Hundreds? I'm going to say hundreds.

Do you think they're less blessed that they don't believe in Jesus? That's a great question. Do I think they're less blessed? No, I don't think that they are less blessed because God is so big and so powerful and so mighty that God even tell us to pray for and have love for our enemies. No. Who are they?

We're talking specifically about... Yeah, you talking about... enemies no specifically what he said is even if somebody don't know you keep to my god I'm saying listen people can get to God different ways right in their religion right people don't people never said that they didn't believe in God because they didn't believe in the divine if somebody is a Buddhist do I think that they can still be blessed the same exact way as you believing in Jesus the same exact way yeah you know what I'm saying so is that I think what the issue is I think just for me sitting here listen what's the difference only so you calling Jesus you say Jesus is is God. That's your God.

Alright, like the Quran. They don't believe in Jesus. They Mohammed. Go ahead. As you say, you're saying my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That's your belief, your religion. That's what it is. In Islam

they would say Mohammed. Buddhists would say Buddha. You see what I'm saying? So that's the... But I think where the confusion comes from is these are all prophets, and prophets deliver the message from the Most High, correct? Yes. So that's kind of where we're coming from.

But see, whoever taught the good, the bad game. It's like politicians. Whoever said, okay, let's say what Jesus said. Jesus got, he got their people. Muhammad got their people. Whoever in Buddha's got their people. Yeah, like in Ifa, we can have Arumala and

Aludumare. Exactly. So it's like, but it's one God, man. Man, see, but when you ask me this question brother you asked me a question specifically about can people who don't believe in jesus be blessed the same way people who do believe in jesus can be blessed the answer is heck yeah the devil said something else you started some of my enemies no no because i'm about to say that's that's how much like we we confuse being elevated with being blessed brother the devil can elevate people the devil could bless people oh man no no you're going the devil can elevate people so if you're asking

me can people still be blessed so so do you so do you think if people don't believe it hey people don't believe in jesus they they with the devil brother all we doing no no no listen no no i don't believe it yeah all we doing right we rolling the dice right now because on earth we looking at man look i'm alive i'm healthy i look good i'm alive i'm healthy i look good i'm blessed you blessed we all blessed and we could all say i'm blessed because of this person i'm blessed because of this person right all we doing down here is we rolling the dice for after we die and we ain't here no more we rolling the dice based on what we believed in and what we believe the source our blessings was that's going to

determine what's next for us after this because at that point it ain't no guessing all we doing while we down here is what what you doing what you hedging your bet on you want you want bet bet that the universe is blessing you let's see what the universe do you when you die i'm gonna see what i'm gonna see what god and jesus christ do for me when i die oh oh oh oh oh because yeah because i think first let me say what i'm first let me go back to what i was getting ready to say before everybody else was talking i think where the disconnect in this conversation is coming in at is because i think that you're like miss confusing that's not a word but I think that you're like misunderstanding the fact that as far as God is concerned the big head man that's over all of

this shit we're all on the same page about him but where we're having a discrepancy at is the whole Jesus thing the whole whole Bible thing, the whole interpretation thing, the whole way that it was presented to the people when it did come out as, as opposed by the, by the people that like put it out, as opposed to it being like a personal presented as a personal interpretation of each one of these people. It was presented as the one and only gospel, and that's not the case. So, if y'all don't claim to be Christians, let me ask you

a question. Have any of y'all ever been blessed by a sermon that a Christian pastor spit? For sure. Every religion. If you gonna listen to my Baba, you gonna get blessed by some of that shit. It's whatever you feel. It's in your spirit, bro.

I've been to the mosque and been blessed by it. Yeah, exactly. I done been to places that can't even understand but can see the spirit moving in these people. Couldn't even understand. I went to Africa one time. I didn't even understand what them people were saying. But I felt that. Right.

You get what I'm saying? So it's just what it is. And I don't know who they was talking to what I feel like is is whatever if you believe in what you believe in all the way that's what make you get to where you're trying to go like the belief system you get what I'm saying I believe like because who's to say what's what how do you believe this that's what i'm saying how do you believe what's what hold on hold on hold on let me ask you a question so basically what i want to know is for me personally yeah do you feel like you can carry on a real conversation about god without involving jesus can i i do it all the time. Yes.

This is God right here. What I was about to say was basically what you just asked me, which is, when I'm sitting with Minister Louis Farrakhan, who I've sat with in his hotel room before,

go and listen to him speak and preach, right? Yeah. Half of his message is about Jesus. Half of what he be talking about is about Jesus. You know that's right. A lot of people in other religions.

Nobody on the stage exists. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A lot of people in other religions, the story of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ and what Jesus Christ represents. They respect and pay homage to him. I'm not disrespecting that at all. They're just like a nigga. They're just like a nigga. They're just like a nigga being in this city, right?

And he probably be the biggest nigga from the west side. I'm the biggest nigga from the east side. I'm going to acknowledge you, but I ain't going to acknowledge you. I'm going to acknowledge you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was doing his thing. But I ain't going to submit. Yeah, yeah, he was a prophet. I was too. Right. Yeah, like he is a big nigga. That's the truth. But he's the biggest nigga from his side.

Yeah, that's the truth what they saying. Yeah, but we were doing that too over here. Like what they try to do, they try to block out. So all these spiritual ass people from our country, bro, from Africa and shit. Where they at? It's just not taught to us on how strong our people was too. And like what those religions was.

Yeah, it's just not taught how these people has healed shit, has cured blindness, cured AIDS, cured illness, cured all type of shit. It just ain't been publicized the way this has. Just because this book is more popular, this book is more popular, this is what we believe the most. And the reason just because this book is more popular this book is more popular this is what

we believe the most and the reason that our teachings from our people wasn't publicized is because if we would have been taught our teachings from our people we would no longer feel the need to be oppressed exactly we would feel like we're dogs that's not true that is so not true. How? Because we walk around calling each other King and Queen all day and be quick to my work. What's up, King? No. Because it's already fucked up, man. Because it's already fucked up.

King, Queen, Grand Rising King, Grand Rising King. So the whole time she's cheating on me, you heard me? Grand Rising King. What you saying is right, but it ain't the King, Queen. What they saying is, what they say it is as a black person, as a black person, right? If you go into great authors, John Herrick Clarke and A. Mack Bar so far and so forth, as a black person, if you really knew your history and where the fuck you came from, you can't even resonate on a particular plane.

You understand what I'm saying? When you say, how did it happen for Bank? It happened for Bank in his journey. He just became wiser. You understand what I'm saying? When you say, how did it happen for Bank? It happened for Bank in his journey. He just became wiser. You know what I'm saying? He connected with God. He became wiser.

Like, man, I can't move or think like that no more. He's the same person at heart, same person I always loved, but because he went through his experiences, he's like,

I can't just be the same. Like you said, what did you say? You was retarded at one point? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucked up. Bad. He's still the same person at heart. The good person that we love but he's wiser now. So what I'm saying is... He has a clearer understanding of how life works.

Exactly. Brother, brother, with all due respect, because this is this, this, that, this, that, this, that crack right here, this whole talk. There are a lot of kids who come from royal bloodlines they daddy was a billionaire and the kid is out there wilding out drugging and thugging you heard it they they know it's a lot of that there's a lot of people who with that what's the old

phrase oh you the daughter of a pastor oh we know y'all the wildest ones you know i'm saying oh for real your daddy a whole pastor blessing people getting people are Saved and all this stuff on Sundays helping bless people But his daughter who come from his bloodline is out there on some whole other type of stuff So just like you could be real quick just like you can be led on the righteous path You can be led astray exactly and I feel like hip-hop at this point is was is was leading our people More than even church. When you think about it, bro, they got more like the 25 and under generation.

They are listening to rap music way more than they listening to sermons or going to church or anything like that. So let's be honest about the power of rap music. And let's be honest about what sermons are being spit via rap music. That's a metaphor for what messages are being glorified in rap music. Because that's the Bible for a lot of people. So let me... 2,500, that's their Bible. It's Apple Music and Spotify.

So let me ask you a question. Yeah. So outside of the rap music, you don't think that TV movies and YouTube have an even more major effect? Rob Markman Not a more major effect. Do they have an effect? I believe all media has an effect.

I, in my lifetime, sweetie, have not encountered a type of media that has more of an impact than rap. Rob Markman Yeah, that rap got the vibration. It do. I'ma give you two names. It got different vibration. That beat, that shit you on them drugs, that shit will do something to your ass. I can't listen to certain shit.

Now, I still be counting. Make me want to go back into some, turn that shit off. I need to turn on some, I need to get in the car with Shante, because I go to hear that certain shit they got there. Yo. Right. Then go on your timeline. Yup. Ho ass nigga.

That shit do just like that. Bro, that music something different. Man. It's the most powerful thing. So we agreeing on that. Red wrong. Red wrong. Yup.

How we know it red wrong? That shit turn me up. Bitch, what I thought a nigga said. Thought a nigga said something. That shit turn me up. Bitch, what I thought a nigga said, son. I thought a nigga said, son. That shit turn a nigga ass up. So since we agreeing on that, I'm just saying, let's go one step past agreeing on that. And let's say, dang, whoever made the Red Room song, whoever made that song. Same nigga.

Oh, same one. All right. Whoever making them songs and whoever consuming them songs, how do we reach them to where we teach that brother, hey, brother, you could do better than that, dog. You could still make hit songs.

You could still be a rapper, but you could do better than that, my brother. Like, I know you got it. That shit ain't really going like that right now. That other shit ain't really going, bro.

That shit keep it real. Hey, brother, that shit ain't going. Hey, brother, I got this. Because let me just speak to the brother that made that song we're not gonna call no names or whatever but the brother that made that song is one of the brothers that i was speaking about like earlier in this episode that basically has turned his life experiences into his art form to make his living and at the same time even though he's rapping about certain things that he's seen or possibly maybe allegedly done or you know whatever he's still showing through that same music his evolution at the same time like yeah this is what goes on this This is what happens. This is

what I'm talking about. But I'm also talking about this jet that I just bought. I'm also talking about this fucking $70 million check that I just got. I'm also talking about how I put all of my brothers in position to be able to take care of themselves and their families. i'm also talking about how i fucking did what i needed to do got my business straight so that i could become a u.s citizen and also be able to go back and forth to my home country and also show my family like there's a better way i guess all right yeah you know like like it's still it's still it's a mixture of both but at the same time like niggas are still speaking

on what's relative to them a nigga gotta be a damn fool to see a nigga riding around in jets and all this shit and all these big ass cars feel like a nigga doing that to me it's an expression I get what you saying about people that don't know but you know that's a flaw of mine.

Because I can do shit I feel like anybody can. You know what I'm saying? That's a flaw. When you think, because you can be special. You can think just because you consume shit in a certain way or your perspective in a certain way that everybody should think like that. That's really some bullshit. So I look at it like, well you know a nigga ain't doing this shit

that they saying. They doing this. These folks getting money. They don't do it. Nah, nah. Because we got people right now that's fighting big charges that we know they got money to the ceiling.

They don't mean a nigga did. Them niggas coming home. And they fighting for their freedom. Them niggas will come home. They're always coming home. But then fighting for their freedom. Them niggas will come home. They're always coming home, but this is some alleged shit from fucking 15 years ago. Yeah, we ain't got no hard core. Okay, but y'all not from where I'm from. So y'all thinking I'm talking about who y'all think I'm talking about, who from here.

Y'all not from where I'm from with somebody who I'm super plugged with, who as of right now, he's not coming home for the rest of his life. You heard me? And if he ain't commit that, then he need to be freed ASAP. You heard me? So y'all not from where I'm from to say, oh, nah, ain't no way, dah, dah, dah. Because, hey, there's somebody that was on. There's somebody that, and they got other people. They got other people that done did time, that's doing time. Come on, man.

People that was up, that is like, man, you was up. Why you was still doing that? So do you believe? Do you feel like a nigga shouldn't be able to make a mistake? Some niggas just is who they is though. I'm talking about these niggas who you know I have. You know these niggas ain't really doing shit. Hey, hey, I think we all entitled to make mistakes.

I think we also got to recognize there's consequences for our mistakes. For sure. So that's my answer to your question. I'm not sitting here acting like can't nobody make a mistake, man. I make mistakes every day you hear me and the next time I come on here Lord willing we can talk about all that cause I don't

never want people to try to hit a man a God or somebody that's trying to just make this world better with the that boy think he perfect or he act like he don't never know what we all entitled to make mistakes but we gotta recognize sweetie that depending on what kind of mistake it is it got a different type of consequence that come along with it.

And that's all I'm saying is a lot of these kids that's making mistakes because of what they're being influenced by, by the streets, by the music, by whatever, they're not getting a second chance. Because the consequence that come along with their mistakes, ain't no shaking back from that. You feel me? And I'm fighting for them at the end of the day because I done seen some people make mistakes that dang, they ain't get a chance to shake back from it. And a real wise person learns from other people's mistakes. So we need to start teaching people how to look at the mistakes that's been made in society

and be like, oh, you like that person? Oh, you like them? Well, look at some of the mistakes they made along the way and learn from that so you can be even better because of that. What do most parents tell their kids? I went through this stuff, so you ain't got to. And that's as OGs in hip-hop culture,

that's, or people that made it in hip-hop, because we done made it at this point to a certain level. That's our responsibility. I went through this stuff so I could teach y'all a better way to not have to make some of the mistakes I mean, I get it man, but Why you gotta shake your head D-niggas ain't listenin' The niggas who try to do that they feel like you a hater you in the nigga business

I ain't a nigga who pinna force and don't know nigga. I tried that shit. I tried to be the nigga. So learn through me. If you can't see that this nigga is a different nigga that elevated itself, learn through my actions. I can't preach nothing to these niggas. I don't give a fuck. Do what you want to do. Just stay the fuck out my life. That's just how I feel.

If you change through like I can't like when I say certain shit, I'm just telling you I speak from experience. I speak from me. I speak from shit if you change through, like, I can't, like, when I say certain shit, I'm just telling you, I speak from experience. I speak from me. I speak from shit I've been through. When I say certain shit, it might sound like I'm talking about somebody else. I'm speaking about just environment and shit that I see.

So if you learn from that, cool. I ain't trying to push nothing on them. It sounds like what you do, it sounds like you're trying to push on a nigga and you get, like, and you feel a way because niggas don't get it. That's what makes, that's what disconnect coming in. The feel away part, the feel away part. Dog, you be talking some real stuff dog.

I feel a way because somebody don't get it. That's cap. I don't feel a way because I'm not finna give up my joy. You heard me like I live a blessed life. I'm not finna give up my joy. You heard me? Like, I live a blessed life. I'm happy overall. I feel a way when I see the consequence of somebody not getting it. Like, that make me hurt, man.

Like, man, it's people I can't call because they ain't here with us no more that I feel like I could've did more. And since I lost my best friend like that, since I lost my student G-Money, that was Fred O'Bain rapping partner, to that, and I feel like in my heart, man, what if I would have just been a little more persistent that stuff sit with me dog like that stuff sit with me and it hurt it hurt but it ain't got me walking around

here feeling the way in general because at a certain point I ain't gonna give up on you I'm just gonna redirect my energy to the next person that's like well maybe God put me in your life for me to make a difference with you I ain't I ain't giving up on you but I gotta redirect my energy because if I stay focused on wanting to just reach out I was like that when I first started rapping I was like I want to have the impact Lil Wayne had on my city New Orleans but just in a positive light that's what I told myself and I got frustrated when I realized the streets respect me the streets is all like like, man, we see D1 and D1 a dog on a microphone. He could spit with the best of us. They're just not receiving your message.

But they're not receiving my message the way they loving what Wayne putting out there. Loving what BG putting out there. Loving what Birdman, Juvie, Turk, the hot boys putting out there. And it used to get to me until I realized, man, I just got to redirect my focus. Because they got people over here in some different spaces that's loving what I'm putting out there. And I'm Lil Wayne for them. You heard me? And I had to learn like, oh, don't get mad at these people. Always be here for them. But at a certain point, my energy is now focused on the people, the soil that's fertile. If the soil is infertile over here, that means I wasn't meant to reach you, but Jay was meant

to reach you. Scream going to reach you. You heard me? Like, God got other soldiers that's going to reach you. Bank going to reach you, because Bank done did some stuff that I ain't did. I grew up around it, but Bank was probably doing it, so he going to talk your language a little bit. I wouldn't.

I wouldn't. Man, shut up, man. All right. So I done been through that before, to where no, man, I don't be feeling the way if cats don't get it. But what I'm not finna do- But I'm saying, you know your passion sometimes can get in the way of, like, that shit can bring emotions.

I'm just being real with you. I used to be the same. Don't get it fucked up. I've been the same way. Like, listen, bro. I used to be around people, and I still do call people and talk to them how I see them. And they don't see themselves that way. So it's like I'm always got something to say because I see them as perfect.

Like you can be this. What the fuck? Like I'm speaking to them like they ain't and they may be doing their best. But I'm speaking to them like you bullshit because I see something else. I had to realize that. You get what I'm saying? That's what you're saying with hip hop and with the world. You said I see this shit can be better, but y'all just not getting it. And I used to do that personally to my people.

Call it like, man, you bullshit. Like, you give them excuses. Why you ain't drop five in there? Why you ain't whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, a nigga taking that constructive criticism as in, man, this nigga always got something to say. This nigga always riding.

This nigga ain't good enough. But you don't understand the way I see you. Yeah. And that's your disconnect. That's it, bro. You don't understand. Niggas don't understand the way you see this shit. Yep.

And you come off sometimes as. Abrasive. You get what I'm saying? Great word. You get what I'm saying, though? It come off as. But I respect him because I know we read him the same way. I know he mean well, right?

It ain't like, like we said, we know it's not cloud chasing. We know it don't come from a place of malice or nothing like that. We know he means well, but it's just that you have your, everybody has their own personality in here. And the way that we come off, people are going to react to that personality trait however they want to react to it. That just is what it is. But don't change for nothing.

Live in your truth. For sure. Don't change for nothing. I'm just telling you how it's viewed. Like nigga, that's courage. That's courage what you do. Like, cause it gotta be a kind of a lonely space cause certain niggas don't want to like bro I ain't no nigga, you know what I'm saying?

But at the end of the day, nigga, that's what God calls you to do. Do that. Fuck a nigga feelings. Yeah, he put me here to be a disruptor, bro. And just to disrupt stuff that don't sit right in my spirit because I'm knowing, like, this ain't of God at all right here, brother. Like, this ain't it, man. And for me to not say nothing hurts more than for me to say something and have some people looking like, man, why are you saying something? So I got to be strategic about how I say what I'm going to say and how I do what I'm going to do.

But that's the problem, bro. Like, they always act like if you want some positive stuff or some godly stuff or some righteous stuff, they always act like you got to tiptoe around everybody's feelings. But everybody that's doing evil and pushing out negativity, they don't tiptoe around nobody's feelings. They like, I'm a stepper, you heard me? And I'm saying this bold, and I wish a nigga would say something about how I'm doing what I'm doing. That ain't fair.

You don't get to be like that, but then the man of God or the woman of God got to tiptoe around this world and just say, okay, let me not offend nobody. Where they do that at? Good point. offend nobody. Where they do that at? Good point. Good point. Where they do that at, man? And that's what's happening right now. You need to say your shit louder.

A little bit louder than them. Louder. I'm making righteous noise, bank. I'm making righteous noise. You heard me? I'm going to be... I'm making all that noise. Righteously.

Because y'all used to... Hey, guys, please do the right thing God loves you all Come on please Please go to church on Sunday Y'all want that Y'all used to that Word

That ain't how No And I could go And I could make all that righteous noise And still not be on some I hate you I hate you I hate you

Cause it ain't I hate you It's I love you It's the same convo you having When you telling your partner Man I see better for you man that's all that is and and i mean at the end of the day ain't no script to none of this bro so ain't no ain't no script you know it ain't no like so yeah i'm gonna do this then i'm gonna do that this ain't no script. It ain't no like, so yeah, I'm going to do this, then I'm going to do that. This ain't no calculated plan, bro. You just move when you move.

You move when you move. Yeah. You feel me? In a genuine way, too. Yeah. And it's like, I see it making a difference. I see it making a difference. But sometimes all the world see is,

oh, two rappers ain't like what you said. So they feel this type of way. But they're not seeing all the impact that I'm making, bro. And I'm seeing it. And it's not just me, bro. Everybody should be doing this. You ain't got to be a rapper to be doing this. Whatever field you're in, man, if you're a lawyer, if you're a teacher, if you're an accountant, if you're in man if you're a lawyer if you're a teacher if you're an accountant if you're working at the at the grocery store if you're working at the gas station you got opportunities to spread light and spread God's message in what you're doing and they got opportunities to where you could see like oh what's going on right here ain't right politics we need more good politicians man instead. Instead of people just saying, man, all politicians crooked. Cause most of them is. So we need the people that's like, well,

I'm going to be the one that's not a crooked politician, man. And God gifted me to get into that realm and to be a politician just so I could be the change that I wanted to see. I didn't have to be no rapper, man. I graduated college. Like I was good. I was teaching. I was coaching basketball and I was about to start my own businesses, man. I just so happened to be no rapper, man. I graduated college. Like I was good. I was teaching. I was coaching basketball and I was about to start my own businesses, man. I just so happened to be able to, man, when I put 16 bars together, it give people goosebumps. It make these cries. It made Tupac Mamba, Mr. Phoenix Shakur say, you remind me of my son with your passion when you're on the microphone. When she saw me perform when I was in college. It make people feel away. You heard me? So I'm like, shoot, I can get in that. I love rap. I love hip hop. I get in this game to make a difference, you know? And I could just be in a church all the time with it. Well,

D, why don't you just go over there? Yeah, I'll be in the church. And then the next day, I'll be at a college. And then the next day, if I got to be at a conference or a convention, I'm there. And the next day, if I'm at Big Facts, I'm there. And then if I'm on Breakfast Club, like two weeks ago, I'm at Breakfast Club. And then, like, there ain't no script to what I'm doing, bro. Ain't no script to what I'm doing, so it ain't no box to what I'm doing either. And I

does it all as the same dude with the same passion. I don't get around other people and be like, so who I gotta be around them to make them like me? I fuck with that. I fuck with that. You know? D, I fuck with that right there. Yeah, D, you at all times from the end of the bat.

I think where I fucked up at, I just accepted that this shit fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, a nigga used to be want to be an advocate and try to tell people, but I just done accepted, like, man, shit. This shit fucked up. And I think that still comes from two different places. I think you just kind of like, sometimes you see some shit and it's so disheartening that you just like, fuck all this trying shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

But in your actions alone, like Killer Mike was telling you and so many people, in your actions alone, in our actions alone, it speaks volumes. So everybody still have an impact by leading by example. Sometimes that's more than just you can talk to somebody and they just, you're falling upon deaf ears. You dig what I'm saying? Rob Markman, I'm facts right there. Rob Markman, That's the way I look at it. Rob Markman, I was with Killer Mike two weeks before he won his Grammy Award.

I went on my first tour with Killer Mike and Young Dro. Jason Gita was my manager. I had just stopped being a middle school teacher. One of my music videos went viral. Jason Gita started managing me. That was a dream come true because I really looked up to T.I. a lot. Kip was locked up at the time. So me, Young Dro, Killer Mike, it's 2011, y'all. I've been doing to T.I. a lot. Kip was locked up at the time. So me, Young Dro, Killer Mike, this 2011, y'all.

Like, I've been doing this for that long. Same dude. We on the tour bus way back then. Dro being Dro, being crazy, being funny, being a clown. You know what I mean? Killer Mike sitting up front, always dressed in all black, just giving out game. You heard me.

Whoever down the city at the front of the tour bus with him Killer Mike just finna fill you up with game all day. I was like, shoot, that's gonna be me. So the whole tour, I'm just up there jostling with him. You heard me just running it, listening to the stories and all that stuff. And we seen each other a couple weeks before he won his Grammy. I was at Stanko and his studios

doing an interview. Ran into him. Me and Killer Mike got music together and everything. And he was just like, man, I see. He was like, hey, the way you do what you do is different than how I do what I do. But at the end of the day, we on the same team. We both in this thing to make this space better for all of us. And I'm cool with that. I'm cool with not doing it

the way somebody else do it or whatever because I can reach people that somebody else can't reach. It's just not enough. Y'all know I went on the whole tour. Y'all know who Macklemore is? No Macklemore? Grammy Award winning

Macklemore. Grammy Award winning Macklemore. Right, right. From Seattle. So when he won all them Grammys for that song, Thrift Shop and Same Love and Can't Hold Us, all them songs, I was on tour with him, right? That was right after the Grand Hustle tour. We did 52 City Tour together. It was 2012.

And on that tour, this is a white suburban audience at every show. I'm a black dude from the night war east side of New Orleans. You hear me? I ain't never participated in the street stuff, but that's all I come up around. So I know it very well. And I'm just an urban dude. You know what I mean? Every night when the tour start, I'm sitting here like, I don't know how I'm going to relate to these people.

That's out here to see Macklemore. I do not know what songs to do. I'm looking at my playlist. What songs are going to reach them? I figured out a way on that tour to be a version of myself that I knew was going to appeal to all them suburban white fans that was at them shows. And after a while, after like two or three shows, I figured it out, right? And so every night I was able to win them over enough

to where they was rocking with me. And it wasn't until I got home back to New Orleans off of that tour that I felt empty. My pockets was full of money. I was definitely 4PL, you heard me? But I felt empty because I was like D, that wasn't even you in front of them crowds every night

you turned into what you knew they would like instead of being you and being like if you like it, you like it, if you don't like it oh well and that ain't feel good bro when I got home from that tour some nigg that ain't feel good bro when i got home from that tour that ain't funny some that feel good though some look at that as i'm just acting

correct we can't see just because you got a passion for music you grew up you love me some look at this as a hustle we got to look at it like that from that perspective too because a lot of feel like bro i'm this shit. This is what it is. They get my money and get up out this motherfucker. And that's what allows you to be a glorified prostitute because you're easy to toss if your soul could be bought for a cost.

You're a glorified prostitute at that point. If you like, man, I say whatever on this microphone. I know I'm about to reach millions of people but I'm going to say whatever on this. Even if I don't reach I know I'm about to reach millions of people, but I'm going to say whatever on it. Even if I don't reach millions, I'm about to reach people on this mic and I say whatever long as you pay me for it. You're glorified prostitute.

But it's not even I don't even think it's so much that a nigga will say anything for the money. But I think what Black was saying is that like it's niggas out here that don't look at this shit like I have a passion and I'm gonna overthink everything that I say to make sure it's right and this and that, blah blah blah. They're looking at it like, I'm about to tell my story,

I'm finna get my money and I'm finna get up out of this shit. Not necessarily like, I'm gonna fucking sell my soul or no shit like that, but they're looking at it like it's a business transaction not like okay this is some shit that I really just want to do whether I get paid

for it or not he's saying with these microphones give you a moral responsibility that's what he's saying that's what he's saying he's saying bro what I'm saying is niggas don't it's niggas out there that don't look at it like that but they're not just going to say. But eventually you're going to have to though.

Yeah, but they're not. Eventually you're going to have to. That's just like on this shit right here. I be want to say so much shit on this podcast that I don't say because I know I have a moral responsibility.

Like I be want to say so much shit when I be in different mindset and different like, like today I was saying some shit that, you know, but it is what it is. You know you got a responsibility. Yeah, you do though. and different like like today I was saying certain shit that you know but it is what it is

you know you got a responsibility look man you do though nah but what I'm saying is what I'm I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think y'all are getting what I'm saying nah I get what you're saying

but I'm just saying I just inputted that cause I was that nigga yeah it's niggas that true enough when the mic turns on you have a moral responsibility but it's niggas out there that look at this as a job and as a check

and they feel like as long as I don't as long as I'm not irresponsible with my personal morals then it's not a big deal you see what I'm saying like whatever whatever's important to you as long as I don't give a fuck

like the shit that I stand for and the shit that I'm that I believe in as long as I don't go against that for me whatever else I say on here is whatever you know what I'm saying like this is skit you saying this is skit

but I'm not gonna say no like weirdo shit or nothing like that. But at the end of the day, me telling my story, if that offends some people, then, oh, well, I'm about to tell my story because this is what I know and I'm about to get my money. Yeah, that telling your story part, these people don't be telling their story. You said it earlier. They be telling their partner's story who in the studio with them who they want to impress. And they be like, man, this is what the streets want to hear or this is what people want to hear so i'm gonna do that when you're telling your story i was with styles p last night from the life ain't that creativity though ain't

that creativity ain't that creativity if i could take if i could take it's called lying it's called lying no i don't think so if you talk about if we think if we no no you're about what you're saying. But at the end of the day, it all boils down to creativity. It's like I can take stories that I heard and put them into words and make you feel it. A lot of niggas can't do that. They're still telling, right? Okay, so let's take creativity and couple that with moral responsibility. And you pour that creativity with the moral responsibility that you said we should have on the mic and that makes beautiful art because creativity plus a I got a moral responsibility so I ain't gonna I ain't gonna spin this story in this direction

I'm gonna spin it in this direction that makes for morally responsible beautiful art and we've seen so many artists be able to do that that it's just like that's what we need more of man we got to show people that peace and positivity is profitable people think that only toxic energy yeah people think that only toxic negativity is profitable no we gotta show peace and positivity is profitable and let me show you how I'm trying to show people how right now in addition to rapping so look I Put my album out my latest album. I put it out in December. It's called from the hood to Harvard, right? Um, I Let my fans name their own price. I ain't put it on streaming platforms till till February had it out for two months on my website

D1 music that can de the number one, music.com. Let my fans go in there and name their own price. I don't want to tell you how much I made. I kind of told myself I might show them the screenshot or let them see the website. Brother, I did so well by doing that that it made me realize I got to teach other artists how to build a connection with their fans the way I've been able to build with mine because when I gave the fans

the choice man name your own price you heard me but you can come stream it but get it directly from your boy get the art from the artist I seen something that like it's still blowing my mind to see how well that went right they got people that paid up to $1,000 for my album. People, not one person, people paying $1,000 for the album, $500 for the album, $100. Even the people paying a 20-piece, all that. Thousands of people paying, naming their own price for the album. And I'm seeing this. Meanwhile, I put it on streaming platforms a couple months later.

Yeah, a lot of people streaming it. But Apple and Spotify, man, them people pay us a third of one penny. One third of one penny for every stream we get. The math ain't mathing, you heard me? So it's showing me that if I have seen how successful I could be building my own fan base, building a real connection by being myself and showing that when I give my fans the option, they show up like that. I got to now show other artists how to do that. Show them how to do that. I just put a children's book out.

You hear me? It's an anti-bullying children's book. It's a hip-hop children's book called David Found His Slingshot. I used to get bullied a little bit when I was in kindergarten, right? Eventually, me and my bully became best friends. I talk about it in here, my real name David, about how I found my slingshot. Now y'all know the story from the Bible of David and Goliath. David defeated Goliath using a slingshot. So basically this book tells people everybody has a slingshot in life and everybody got Goliaths or like ops, you know,

like enemies that they, that they facing. A lot of times it's not even people. It's stuff like racism, oppression, you know, depression, anxiety, poverty. The way to defeat your Goliaths is you got to find your slingshot. Just like David did in the Bible. My slingshot is hip hop, man. That's why I'm in this game. I see that I'm anointed when I, when I'm in this space, whether I'm speaking this game. I see that I'm anointed when I'm in this space, whether I'm speaking or rapping, I see that. I'm using my slingshot to defeat the Goliaths in this world. So whether it's being a rapper and being able to write a children's book, being a college professor, dropping albums, doing shows, public speaking, I'm trying to show people that, man, peace and

positivity is profitable. People need to see that because a lot of people don't want to rap about this negative stuff but they feel like that's what i gotta do to make and i know they feel like that i'd have been in the studio with them and they like man you know that's what the people want here man we sitting here talking off the mic talking about talking about some real stuff off the mic we sitting here jonesing you heard me we having fun we laughing we talking about real we talking about man i just bought some property up here on Talking about some real stuff off the mic. We sitting here jonesing, you heard me? We having fun. We laughing. We talking about real.

We talking about, man, I just bought some property up here on the west side. Oh, for real, man? I just bought an apartment complex in Louisiana. Da, da, da. We talking about all this. Soon as the engineer be like, hey, the beat ready? You come spit your verse now. That person get in the booth and kill 85 people in there.

Rapping about straight murder. Straight red room, you hear me? And I'm like, wait, that's the same dude that was just out here with me. We talking about some peace and positivity and economic empowerment, but they feel like, man, that's what people want from me, man. So when I get in there, I got to turn into that and give people what they want. You're going to give people what they want. They're going to lead you to hell. You give God what he want, it's going to lead you to heaven. We got to make a choice.

Ah, God want me to give these people what they want. Look at hell. You don't even believe that. You don't even believe that, brother. I do believe that in some cases. God wants you to give the people what they want? You think God wants you to give the people what they want. You think God wants you to get people what they want? I'm an entertainer.

I'm looking from an entertainer point of view. I'm saying like God gave you that talent and you done touched a certain crowd. Now you got to sprinkle that growth in them. You can't just be straight. The Snoop Dogg again. The Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg. You got to sprinkle it in until you get out of there.

You can't just, you can't try to leap out that shit. Oh, I'm about to really flip the game on you What if God was like what I rather more than what I would really prefer more than any of that is if you wouldn't Start it out on that path in the first place So we talk about snow But the reality is that they did if he came up in Long Beach and this is what he came up in And this is what he reported. That's his up in Long Beach and this is what he came up in and this is what he reported, that's his reality.

He saw the world and maybe he was enlightened. That's what I'm saying. You could be led astray or you could be led into righteousness. That's my personal belief. So when it comes to a man, this is going to be a tough example because I know you believe in polygamy, for sure. You're like, we all need to be out here concubines. I want to believe in it, but I can't. I'm mad.

Alright, you married. Check me out. Check me out. So this is a good example for all three of y'all. Look, look. If you was out there cheating on your wife, y'all took vows to be faithful to each other, right? And if you knew that that was wrong

and if eventually it was like, yo, I got to make a change. Is it right to say like, man, the best way to make a change is I got to stop cheating cold turkey. I'm going to stop cheating all at once. Let's say you have five side pieces. I'm dropping all five at once.

Or is it like, all right, baby, I'm going to do better. I'm just going to have four side pieces. Then are we going to decrease? Three? No, I'm going to knock two of them off our back line. I'm just gonna have full side pieces. Then are we gonna decrease three? No, I'm not to roll off our back line. I mean three damn get down to today bitch bro you know bro you know that the best way to change would be like man i gotta i gotta go cold turkey when it come to this stuff to really change and i just feel like in the rap game nah we'd be content with like yo this person ain't as bad as they used to be i can't agree with that what you mean i can't agree with that. What you mean? I can't agree with that. You don't think it's confusing

to people? I can't agree with that because at the end of the day, sometimes you glorify killing people. Other times you glorify peace. Before I could go vegan, I couldn't just go straight vegan. You know what I'm saying? I had to cut back on red meat first. Then no beef, no red meat. Then no chicken.

I went pescatarian, then vegetarian, then vegan chicken. I went pescetarian, then vegetarian, then vegan. So I have to move and I have to patient myself. And you know what? As I'm sitting here talking, because none of this ain't scripted. In real time, it ain't none of our job to...

Let me think about it if I want to say this. Yeah, I got to graduate to shit. I don't know. That's just my character. You got to respect the journey. I got to go on a shit. I don't know. That's just my character. You got to respect the journey. Yeah, I got to go on a journey because I don't know if the vegan shit going to make me sick or not

even though it's the best choice for me. So I think I just figured something out. Did you crack the code? I think so. We got to respect everybody's journey. I totally agree with that. Here's where I might feel different than y'all.

When other people, masses of people, thousands, maybe even millions of people are a part of your journey because you are a public figure. At that point, I feel like we got to apply the principle to whom much is given, much is required. So maybe a dude that's like, hey, the only people being affected by my journey with my weight, I'm trying to lose some weight. Only person being affected by my journey is required. So maybe a dude that's like, hey, the only people being affected by my journey with my weight, I'm trying to lose some weight. The only person being affected by my journey is me. So I'm going to go, you know, red meat to, okay,

no pork. Okay, one step at a time, eventually I'm beating it. I get what you're saying, but at the end of the day, it's just like you just said, Jesus earlier, right? You know how many niggas went to Chang'e and listened to that Jesus? Selling that dope? And you know how many niggas didn't? You know how many niggas got money and went on? It's went to Chang'e and listened to that Jesus. Selling that dope. And you know what I mean? Nigga didn't.

You know what I mean? Nigga got money and went on. It's going to be casualties to this shit. You know what I'm saying? It's fucking up to say, but it is. On your journey, that's what it is because you're going through it. It's a tough reality. What you're saying is real.

I feel what you're saying. It's a tough reality. Because I know them casualties. I know some of them casualties. Me too. Let's think about it. That don't sit well with me, though. But let's think about it. That don't sit well with me though. But let's think about it.

But it come with this shit though. It's life. Life wouldn't be life if it was perfect. It's going to come with some casualties. Let's just think about it. Life wouldn't be life if this shit was perfect. Just think about war. Just the word war.

And reflect on it. It happened. There's some good come from war on the back end. There's some people heal and sometimes, yeah, okay. Sometimes they do. But it's not something that I've accepted as this is how it has to be, but the reality is this is how it is. That's what we're saying. Rob Markman, So since we're at war right now inside of hip-hop, we're at war, man. We're definitely at war.

I'm just telling people, pick a side. What side you want to be on in this war? They done picked it. You know what the problem is? You tried to get them to come over here. That's what you tried to do. They already picked their side. It's a lot of people. You're right.

Some people have picked their side. And I realize that more people haven't picked a side. There's more people that feel like it's normal to be on both sides of the wall. Let's cry when Nipsey Hussle get killed. Let's cry. No, better example. Let's cry when Young Dolph get killed. But when he's alive and he's rapping about or involved in street beefs we we're not opposed

to it we're not trying to advocate to get that stuff to stop we're a record label we eating off of these beefs that he got so we ain't trying to get him to stop that stuff we ain't trying to intervene between him and whoever his ops is like we letting that egg on but then when he died it is a touchy space there you go it's all entertainment to me, though. But I would say that to you because you're strong. You're strong minded. You have a strong. You're strong minded.

I'm telling the majority of people out there. Well, we need this. We got people that think instead of trying to get the rap to change, we need to preach to people to get their mind stronger. That's what I said. That's what I said. Yeah, not not the rap. But that's going to get you in the beef.'s what I said. Yeah, not the rap. That's going to get you in a beef. No, you can do two things at once. This is not about

beef. I don't want beef with no rapper. I'm just telling you. Yeah, I don't want beef with no rapper. But I'm also not finna bite my tongue to stuff that it's like, hey, you could do better than that, brother. You could do better than that. You almost 50 years old. But nigga like, bro, who the fuck is this nigga talking to?

Rob Markman, And guess what? And guess what? They talking to me. Rob Markman, That's how nigga be thinking. Like, what the fuck wrong with this nigga saying my name? Rob Markman, So that's what it is. So just because- Rob Markman, Ego.

Like you said, it's ego. But who don't got ego though in 2024? Rob Markman, There you go. Well- Rob Markman, Every man got ego. Like, bro, who the fuck is this nigga thinking? Because once one nigga get away with playing with you, that's when you got a whole goddamn fuck bank campaign going on.

Gotcha. Well, the part, dang, you had said something that I was like, yeah. War. War. It was after war. Oh, people picking the side. All right. People picking the side.

I think that more people have not picked the side because it's become normalized for us to just be lukewarm. And lukewarm is like I ain't all the way on this side or all the way on that side. I just kind of want to exist in the middle. And I know that we were not called to be lukewarm like that. But because that's the normal state of things. Neutral. Neutral. Yeah, neutral. neutral neutral with stuff my thing is like at a certain point reality gonna hit home for everybody to

where you either on the receiving end of the negative side of this stuff or you close to somebody who was on the receiving end of that negative side of stuff and at that point that should be our wake-up call our light bulb moment to say man hold on man it's a different way that we could go about this it ain't about canceling certain people it ain't about saying i can't listen to hip-hop at all but it's a healthier way that we could create it and consume it there's gonna be better for everybody in the long run and we gotta have difficult conversations what we having right now is difficult conversations, yo. And these difficult conversations get people, man, there's going to be people blessed by this, man. I don't know, you know how the internet is. If it ain't no controversy, it might not do the

numbers that it do if it's like, oh, that boy went on there and just went guns blazing, you know, calling this out and da, da, da. But the people that's going to watch this stuff, oh, that boy went on there and just went guns blazing, you know, calling this out and da, da, da. But the people that's going to watch this stuff, man, this is the type of convo that it's like the world need more of. You feel me? And that is how we ultimately grow because I don't believe that none of these people are evil. So anybody whose name I ever said, I would love to sit down with them. Now, if they're like, nah, I don't want to sit down with you because you said my name, you might have made me look bad on it. Nah, I don't want to sit down. All good, brother. I ain't tripping on that either.

But ultimately, you wasn't just going to respond if I sent you a DM. You ever seen somebody's name and you felt like I said that in the wrong context? Oh, that's a great question. In the wrong context. Like after you look back and like, yeah, I should have probably said it like that.

So when we talking about a few months ago, me being on Sway in the Morning and I mentioned Meek Mill, Rick Ross and Jim Jones name. I said it in a passionate way and I said, I simply said like,

yo, come on brothers. I love y'all too much to not be honest with y'all, bro. Like y'all could do better, man. Y'all could do better than this. Like the messages that's being glorified in this music. Like, come on, we could do better than this. Yo, I'm going to tell you this. I don't think I said it in the wrong way.

Right now, guess what's happening? Right now, if you open your phone, DJ Academics is going at it with who Meek Mill and Guess what DJ academics is basically saying the same stuff that I said to Meek Mill Let me ask what he going about it in a way That's like act like dog you you really want smoked with me you know I'm saying I don't want no smoke with me I look at me as a brother. Every time I go play basketball, I wear his shoes, his Puma shoes. And I gave out 1300 pair of his shoes in my hood in New Orleans to bless people because I think that's fire to prison reform stuff.

I simply was approaching it like, oh, I think it's confusing to people when they see that you are on this, but then you are on something different. Right now, Eck is saying the same thing. But the way he's saying it is like, dog, you really want to smoke with this man. Like, you're trying to make him look like a clown. And like, so the way I be going about stuff, I do know that I get passionate when I say stuff. And sometimes just that passion could make somebody say, oh, word? Oh, you like, you got that type of energy? Or it seemed like nobody took it as disrespect. It seemed like the only people that

responded shout out to me because meek responded and kept it a hundred he was like i ain't gonna lie brother we do what we do all this we do the the positive stuff and we do the street stuff he said that in his instagram reply he wrote it as a as a message for the public to see put it on his story i respected him being honest and just like i could call something out i also supported Meek when he helped to get that bill passed in Pennsylvania a couple weeks ago. And I posted that. If I'm going to be public about saying you can do better, I got to be public about cheering you on too, right? I was public about saluting Ross when he said Big Juk just got killed. Come on, Memphis.

Let's put the guns down. Come on, Memphis. We can do better. I saluted Ross and went on Instagram and did a whole post about that. Not that many blogs pick that one up, though. Oh, they don't pick it up when it's like, oh, he showing love to them now. Jim Jones, me and Jim Jones didn't text each other at this point. We ain't met in person yet.

I was in Harlem yesterday. I would have loved to have met with him. You know what I mean? Like, so no, to answer your question, that's a long way of saying, I don't think I just be coming at people sideways on some stuff. Do I think Ross came at me sideways in terms of his response? Yeah, because he didn't even respond to what I actually brought up. He just went to I'm just about to make fun of you and call you little man and say you look like a fake roster.

And who are you? You trying to make you trying to go viral on other people names. I think that was wrong. So can I ask you a question? Like about the whole Meek situation or whatever. So how do you feel about when basically he was saying, like you said, he was saying basically the same thing that you're saying. But it took like a personal connotation or whatever because he started talking about other stuff but when he started saying okay meek is supposed to be positive he's doing street stuff so now i'm gonna get the reform i'm gonna try my hardest to turn him into the governor and get the reform thing canceled how do you feel about that i don't agree with that i think academics that that shows me that you don't really have love for Meek Mill at the core of who you are, academics.

Like, you're looking at Meek Mill as an op. Like, you want to get him in trouble. You want to get him canceled. You want him to lose a partnership that he has in his state to where he's doing great things. I don't want Meek to lose nothing when it comes to that. I want to celebrate that side of him even more and get him to lean into that type of side that's the difference yeah i just these people are not my ops like they're not my ops at all it's just like man shorty low said but i feel it must be

two sides it's like come on man like if it's two sides I'm saying it's better for all of us to have you lean into the good side yeah that's what I'm saying like I just feel like when it comes to that particular situation when it goes left to the point of you saying that you're you're trying to get a movement shut down that's doing so much good and helping so many people and you're trying to get him in trouble with these same people that are helping yeah yeah not you but when you say that you're trying to like i said get the movement shut down that in turn is doing so much good and helping so many people and get him in trouble with these people and these political figures that are helping him change the laws and helping him

like make a better way for the people i feel like that should remove your ability to speak on whether or not what you feel like he's doing is right or wrong I mean okay I'm spitting it out I'm saying like when the shit turns personal and when you start trying to like basically set up a niggas downfall then your conversation is invalid at that

point because if you're saying okay he shouldn't be doing because he's trying to do something positive okay leave it at that but don't say okay now I'm finna attack this nigga Because if you're saying, okay, he shouldn't be doing both because he's trying to do something positive. Okay, leave it at that. But don't say, okay, now I'm going to attack this nigga and try to goddamn stop all this good shit that he's doing because I feel a personal way about him. And now I'm about to try to go after everything that he has going on. Your conversation means nothing at that point because it's some personal shit and not from an objective point of view. There you go

agree i agree with you we're on the same page and people gonna look at what kind of fruit your tree produces so it's like academics outside of criticizing meek what do you stand for my dog like what do you be pushing but unfortunately academics is known as a dude to be egging on some of them beefs and rap and be trying to like push people to the toxic behavior and and he covers that stuff in a way that he has a reputation for that so it don't seem like act though you always on some on this type of time it seemed like act you got a personal issue with meek right now yeah but outside of this boy you be perpetuating the negativity too and act with that being said my brother you can do better as well. DJ academic, you can do better, bro. If you really

on that type of time where you saying Meek Mill being on both sides bothers you, then you have to show that you aren't on both sides on a regular basis. You got to show that. When people look at what D1 been representing for the last 15 years years since I put my first album out in 2008. It's the same thing that I'm on now. That's something I'm proud of, bro. This ain't no, man, right now, it's just convenient to call this out. I think this is going to get me some interviews and get me on Big Facts. Man, I've been the same way, man.

I don't know how to not be this way. That's how much I've been like this. I don't know how to not be this way. That's how much I've been like this. I don't know how to not be this way. I just feel like if you're going to advocate for one thing and try to call other people out on their flaws. In contrast to that one thing, you shouldn't have any flaws either. So, okay. The part I disagree with is you shouldn't have any flaws either. Everybody's going to have flaws. No, what I'm saying is if you're a hypocrite, if you're trying to...

He's saying, he's saying, he basically, well, I'm going to speak for him, but I think what he's saying is... I'm listening. Like, he ain't got no flaws. His flaws only harm him. They don't harm other people. Y'all both right. What Bank's saying is right. But no, Jay, what you're saying is right because you're

implying, yo, it's very easy to see academics. Boy, you don't be standing for no positive stuff. All of a sudden, you want to get me canceled because you're so appalled by what he threatened you online. But outside of this, you don't be on no positive, righteous

stuff at all. And you're saying that's here for critical, eh? Very. I agree with you. We understand. Oh agree with you I thought you were talking about him no no no that's why I wanted to keep staying for the camera you're talking about act right I don't have smoke with these people the difference is

I gotta tell y'all this there's two types of love right who got kids here I don't have kids yet kids I got kids got kids kids I'm the only one with none

alright look like I need to make some babies alright that being said no I'm just playing I gotta get married first check this out they got two

the bible tells it we can take it there if you want who told you this the bible told me the bible told me that the bible told me that and it makes sense because it's like

alright let me get to my point I'm going to get back on you we need some more Christ where the rest of the Christ at let him piss right quick alright this is an important point. What I was about to say. We're talking about.

Having kids. Did the Bible tell you that? To wait to marriage. Yeah. Before kids though. We were talking about the hypocrisy in certain situations. The hypocrisy in certain situations. The hypocrisy in certain situations. So, um... Like the pot calling the kettle black, basically.

Basically, all right. And I was talking about, um... Yeah, oh, there we go. I got it, yeah. All right. There's two types of love, right? Mm-hmm. There's something called affirmative love.

Right. And something called transformative love. Right. Affirmative love is because I genuinely love you, Jade, I'm looking for anything positive that I can say about you. Exactly.

Your hair is so fire. I'm loving the braids. I'm loving these kicks. I'm loving the Nike socks. You heard me? I'm loving the nails. I'm affirming you, right? Right.

That's one type of love. But transformative love, Scream, is when you say I love you to the point where I'm going to affirm you when it's time to. Dog, you a beast on them ones and twos. Like, you this, you that. Give you compliments.

But because I'm practicing transformative love, I'm also going to love you enough to tell you when you can do better. That's right. Because I want to see you be the best version of yourself. Yeah. I'm practicing transformative love inside this culture. But because of egos sometimes and just because of a culture that don't take well to anybody saying anything about anything, they feel

like, oh, you said something about this person or you said something about this topic. You must got smoke with them. People want it to become that. Then you got people like the academics and Meek Mill thing that come along and you clearly see, that's not transformative love that you're practicing with Meek Mill right now, dog. You're not truly trying to see Meek get better. You got issues with Meek.

You know what I'm saying? And that feels different. So for me, I'm like, I'm not coming in with none of that type of energy. Listen, at the end of the day, I don't, I'm not coming in with none of that type of energy. Listen, at the end of the day, I don't know if y'all know this or not, but people stop taking you as serious when they see, man, you standing on this one day, but then the next day you standing on that, you ain't standing on no business at all. Cause one day you stand on this business. The next day you stand on that business. That's when they contradict. No, no, not saying listen.

And it's a contradiction that's when they country like you want to see things get better but you intentionally making ops what charleston is doing at this point i have seen it cross that line to where you going out here doing things i'm seeing you at your comedy show throwing chairs at a dude in the crowd getting into it when he came in like fuck these niggas though. So that ain't controlling. So he come in with. He came in like, fuck these niggas.

If you come in like that, then that implies that you don't love them. And if you don't love me, then I ain't even trying to hear nothing you got to say. That's the difference. But the thing is, okay, if that's the case. There's a lot of niggas that don't love nobody. Yeah, if you're not trying to hear what he has to say. So why we making them leaders? Why?

If they don't love nobody. I don't want we making them leaders if they don't love nobody? I don't want nobody leading our community if they don't love nobody. If they might be coming in as empty. But see, see, that's just what you see. You don't see the niggas still be posting, I'm out here searching for these folks showing me love. He's showing the love he getting and giving. Every time the nigga going, he in the trenches showing the love that he's getting and giving.

Like you just catching the viral moment, going to nigga pay. He's showing like, yeah, I'm out here over time. Oh yeah, I ain't in Buckhead. I'm over here on Bankhead, kicking with these niggas. Regular nigga. Right. Right. I, you just said something bro that it's like just cause we getting love for something

don't mean that what we doing is right nah nah nah D-Wolfe you my brother but this is the story of Jesus he walked amongst the thugs and the peasants and what he didn't do when he walked amongst the thugs and the peasants my good brother is he didn't become so much like them

that they would have he didn't become so much like them that they would have... Your 2020 photo, bro. They were shitting up in remix. You got to meet people where they at. He didn't become so much like them that they had more of an impact on him than he did on them.

Everywhere Jesus went, when he left there, the people were more like, dang. You see what happened to Jesus? They crucified him. You see what happened to Jesus? They crucified him.

They went over there and hung you up, bro. You really ain't about that. Nigga, you got to meet these niggas where they at. Who really ain't about what? I'm just saying, a nigga, that's how them folk feel. Fuck all that. Hang him up.

And that's what? Oh, so you believe that happened? I'm saying, whatever they say happened. Do you believe that that happened? I don't know. Did it say it in the Bible? Do you believe that God said it in the Bible? Okay, so you believe the Bible, right?

Do you believe? No, I'm asking you right now. I don't know what happened. You're using it as an example, though. So you can't use something as an example, but be like, but I don't even know about it. I believe it happened. You believe that happened? I believe it happened.

That's all it takes to be a Christian is to believe that that happened and to believe that God created Jesus, sent him here so that that can happen. I don't believe that Mary got pregnant on no virgin. As a virgin? I don't believe that. Why not? Just because. Because you ain't never seen a virgin get pregnant.

You're not alone. You're missing the line, man. I don't believe that. You don't believe that? I don't believe that. Why not? Just because. Because you ain't never seen a virgin get pregnant. You're not alone. You're basically lying, man. I don't believe that. You don't believe that? I don't believe that. But how is that scientifically possible? It's not. Which implies that the baby that came from the womb is not.

That means that she's fucked and fucked up. So you think of my wife getting pregnant right now by another nigga and she don't want me to find out. She would say, chief in the hell, Jesus. We almost there. Hold on. We almost there. Listen. we almost there we almost there listen we almost there hey go to her grave listen listen we all did they have milkman back then what is you talking about did they have milkman back then you asking me like I was alive

I'm trying to get back to that no let's start back where we got back to that. All right, hold on. The part about a virgin being able to have a child, exactly. It proves that this child and this whole way that this baby came about was not of this world. Because if it was of this world, a dude would have had to get her pregnant. So basically her baby was an alien. Not an alien, a God. A divine being. So you believe David Bl. Not an alien, a God. A divine being.

So you believe David Blaine. Hold on, hold on. But a divine being isn't human though, right? A divine being came down here in human form. Come on now, it got to be one or the other. How are we able to kill you? It got to be one or the other. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

How are we going to kill you? That's why there's only one Jesus. It got to be one or the other. No, but Jesus is gone. He's out of here. So we can't even use him as an example you? That's why there's only one Jesus. It got to be one or the other. No, but Jesus is gone. He's out of here. So we can't even use him as an example anymore. That's what I'm saying. Exactly.

That's why they, as a Christian, and I know Scream probably like, but this other religion says this and that. And I really respect how you done studied everything. So you're like, yeah. But as a Christian, I'm saying, that's what we're saying is that exactly. That's why there ain't no other prophet out here who. That's why when Kanye said he's a God, boy, you better stop all that. No, there's no other prophet because there are no other pregnant virgins.

There's no other prophet because there are no other pregnant virgins. Exactly. There you go. But was there even really a real first pregnant virgin? Yes. So let me ask you this. The answer is yes. If you don't believe that Jesus existed, then the answer is no.

D1, let me ask you this. I think you believe that Jesus did exist. So if you believe that. But I just don't think. We believe it exists. It was immaculately concepted. D1, let me ask you this, bro. Let me ask you this.

So why would they cover up who his daddy was? And why? You got to ask the lady. Ask Mary? Thank you. Yes. But why? The Bible talks about other people that was known

Prostitutes And people that was like Living their life They had Mary on a pedestal They had Mary on a pedestal So why would they choose Mary out of all women to be on a pedestal Good faith She's been on there she was on the pedestal

Before she became an alleged Fucking pregnant virgin Hold on let me ask y'all this. Mary wasn't popular before. D1, D1, D1, please let me ask you this. Nobody was checking for Mary. Mary wasn't like some big dog. Mary was like Rosa Parks.

Mary was ducked off, and that's why she had something to hide. There you go. Just because somebody- Bro, bro, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Bruh, bruh, bruh. Come on now, let's think about this. Hold on, Jay. Go ahead, go ahead. D hold on. Bruh, bruh, bruh. Come on now, let's think about it. Hold on, Jay. Hold on, hold on.

D1, please, sir. Let me ask you this question. Let me ask you this question. You don't make me forget the motherfucking question, man. That's her. That ain't me. That's her. Listen, man.

That's her. I'm coming back on here, man. Come on, man. If you think... Let me ask you this, man. Damn, man. I don't hate when I do that shit. Come on.

Hold on. Don't look at Black. Just take your eyes off him. He'll remember it. Yeah, y'all go ahead, man. Damn, man. I don't hate when I do that shit. Come on. Hold on. Don't look at Black. Just take your eyes off of him. He'll remember it. Yeah, y'all go ahead, man. Damn, man. I've been trying to get this nigga attention the whole time, man. If I'm looking at this queen right here and if I'm talking to her. Just don't say Graham Rising

because I'm not a biscuit. You're not that. No. Alright. Right. Y'all crazy, man. Oh, yeah. Ding. Why Mary wasn't, if she had the son of Jesus, I mean, the son of God, Jesus, why wasn't she, why did she become like a God? You got to ask God that, brother.

Oh, no, I'm asking you. Brother. I'm saying, like, why did they... It happened to the religion she is. It happened to the religion she was a former parent. I'm saying, why did we glorify... She's a saint. Why did we glorify her more? Like, she should have the touch.

Like, my mama... My mama, Barbara, right now, she feel like she's a motherfucker because she had me. Because she had you. Shout out to Ms. Barbara. Yeah, she feel like, man, my son, my mama, Barbara, right now, she feel like she the motherfucker because she had me. Because she had you. Shout out to Miss Barbara. Yeah, she feel like, man, my son, my son, my son. That's how my grandma feel.

You get what I'm saying? My grandma, too, brother. So, why Mary ain't really get no clout out there? She got clout, brother. She got clout. She got boo-boo clout. You just had Jesus, and it killed your son and you still here?

But her word don't count no more. I think her word might not count because niggas know how she conceived Jesus. You a conspiracy theorist. That's what you is. Me too. I just want to make it make sense. I just thinking like, how do you women need a D-Day?

Like, I just think of like, how do you win me the AD day? Like, you know, Joseph, like Joseph, you Joseph, Big Joe, and you with Mary and Joseph been in the field work. And she's just so happy to get pregnant. What is she goes telling you? And you ain't touch Mary, Big Joe. Like, we got to put all this shit in perspective of this woman she had to do, right? She was married to Joseph, bro.

She was married to Joseph, right? But she got pregnant and had a baby by somebody else? What is she going to say? Like, how are you internalizing that big Joe yeah let's say you're Joseph right now you like damn what would you believe am I tripping screen it just wake up tomorrow with Jesus in her. Right, no, we ain't no. We ain't going. Say that my wife popped up pregnant, but I didn't touch her. His wife wake up tomorrow like, he know we been

Ramadan, we been having sex. She two weeks. I just think honestly, my perspective on it is I don't take the Bible when I read it literal word for word like this, right? I take what you were saying about the power of the tongue. Me too.

Me too. You know what I'm saying? Me too. They got some damn good shit. Like Pastor Keon, they're my favorite. It's a bunch of them. Pastor Mike Jr., they're my favorite. They speaking it.

Trust me, it's a lot of Pastor Mike Jr. They're my favorite. They speak in it. Trust me, there's a lot of stories in it, but I'm just saying some of the stories just don't make sense to me. I'm just putting it up to, believe me, I believe the whole story of Jesus. I believe that he was a special person. I believe all that. I believe all that, but I don't know if he the son of God. I feel like if he the son of God, there's more sons of God.

I do too. That's how I feel. I don't feel like it's just one. Like he just need to be God and Jesus. I don't feel like that. I feel like it can be God, Jesus, God. These niggas I seen be gods in their neighborhoods. Like these are same type niggas.

They may not just be reaching the same type of people. I think he was a son of God, but I also think I'm a son of God. You're a son of God. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. Like God has a long lineage. It's not just him in the niggas. I don't know that. I don't know that that marriage is had like, I don't believe that. You know what it is too. I also think that, uh, it's like how people nowadays who didn't

see Jordan play. Don't believe that Jordan was as great as he was. Nah, you can believe it. They be like, scream. Feel me on this, scream. I'm talking to scream right now. Feel me on this. Right. You like basketball?

Michael Jordan's the greatest ever. There you go. I understand what you're saying. You saw Jordan. You saw Jordan. With my own eyes. Exactly. You know these little youngsters nowadays.

Brown, brown, brown, brown, brown. Come on, man. You feel me? I got you on that. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, going to Jamaica and being amongst my Rastafarian brothers and my Rastafarian brothers say, Jah, Allah is so forth and stuff like that. I can't argue with their spirit and their belief in what they saw in El Salasi.

You see what I'm saying? I wasn't there. So I can't tell them that you're not following the right prophet because this is the only prophet. And then I also say, let me just finally say this. If you grew up, let's say you grew up in Asia your entire life, right? And you were only exposed to Buddha. You were never exposed to a Bible or the story of Jesus Christ or Jesus

or anything like that. You were only exposed to this Bible or the story of Jesus Christ or Jesus or anything like that. You were only exposed to this from your birth date to your death date, right? That's all you were exposed to. You don't know any other way. But if you pray every day and you worship a higher power and you're like you humble yourself and say thank you for another day and the blessings you bestowed upon me and so

forth and so forth, I still think you could be rewarded and blessed here and after here. That's my belief. Right. Me too. I respect you a lot. That's it right there. Because even the way you articulate and what you're saying is coming from a place of like

rationale. Yeah, you just cracked the code. Yeah, a lot of people are coming because one thing I was going to comment on what you said was like I'm cool with a lot of Muslims. Like a lot of, right? I'm cool with a lot of Rastafarians. You know what I'm saying? I'm a Rastafarian.

I'm cool with people that's like, hey, I'm spiritual, but I'm not religious at all, so I don't claim nothing. And I'm friends with these people, and what I realized is you're either going to approach your relationships with them

to where you always telling them, you know what you believe is wrong, right? You know you're wrong and what I believe is right. You're either going to do that and you're going to become that person or you're going to be the person that's like, hey, at the end of the day,

you might be a Falcons fan. I'm a Saints fan you're black and gold you heard me all day but I'm I'm still able to look at what it is we do have in common and what we are on the same page about and still exude that love with you and connect with you on them levels and at a certain point the things that we know that we got different feelings about that stuff if those conversations need to come up, if and when, that'll happen on its own. But I'm not getting cool with you just to be able to tell you, you know you're wrong and you know you're wrong

because that's not love. And that's not what, to bring it really full circle, that's not even what Jesus did. Like the way Jesus did walk the the sinners and the thieves and the tax collectors is that he was there eating dinner with them at their crib they clearly thought he was a cool dude they was inviting him to their crib you feel me so when people try to come at me like i'm just gonna name some artists that i've had featured on my songs and people try to come at me like well why would you have this person on your song i'm just like stop that sounds elementary why would you have the game on your song why would you have kevin gates on your song why would you have this person on your song? I'm just like, stop. That sounds elementary. Why would you have The Game on your song? Why would you have Kevin Gates on your song? Why would you have Fred O'Brien?

Bang. Project Pat. Starlito. Juvenile. Manny Fresh. Lupe Fiasco. Big Crit. The list goes on.

Why would you have these people on your songs over the course of your career? It's like, why would I not? We have so much that we relate on as people because we're people first you know I mean and the human experience is something that so many of us can relate on that I just need to be in relationship with these people that's why I'm thankful that God is using me to be able to build bridges to where it's like oh word I ain't talked to a dude that's a Christian maybe in a long time or they really stand on his christian beliefs but i met d1 and do the little crazy but he cool like i rock with

dude maybe that helps open the door to somebody saying you know what maybe if i do go to church or maybe if i meet some more christians i'm not coming into it with just this wall up like y'all all super just what have you found out like youall all super just. What if you found out, like, you tricked? What? How would you feel? Like you've been bamboozled by the Bible. Yeah. How would you feel? I would be dead when that happens, number one,

because it would be in the afterlife. Because in this lifetime, like, can anybody tell you that you're not black at this point? Yeah. Somebody could tell you you're not black. Color black might not even be black. It's color black might not be black. It might be caramel.

Right. Right. The whole thing, though. Okay. So, you're saying that's possible. I feel like you was the student in class who always,

if the teacher tried to make an example, he like, I'm going to go against the point I know you tried to make just so you can't make it. But, can somebody,

can somebody tell you scream that you're not a man, that you're a woman? Nobody can convince you of that. That's how firm I feel about my belief. Nobody can convince you of that. No, you're right. There you go, the man part. That's how firm I feel about my belief in God and about my belief in Jesus.

To where, yo, if it do come out, then it's like, oh, man, you got bamboozled. Guess what? I ain't going to be here to find out. I'm going to be in the afterlife anyway, and it's going to be like, oh, it's too late because that ain't happening while I'm here. I can dig that. You feel me?

No, I feel the same way, though. Yeah. I ain't saying that. I just don't believe nothing that they told us before we know, so. So how you know that your parents are your parents? You didn't watch them have sex? It was somebody that was in the room.

You know what I'm saying? Somebody that had a voucher that this lady had me. Like I said, I believe it should be mandatory that you get a DNA test for your father. Because your mother have you and your father get a DNA test for your father. Because your mother have you and your father get a DNA test, damn your parents.

So what about your great grandparents who I'm assuming they no longer here with us on earth. So at this point to believe that your great grandparents was really your great grandparents, you got to go based off hearsay. Word of mouth at this point because nobody who was alive when they was alive is still here. But you believe

that. Leave somebody put us on the wrong last name where are the crises at least we got the wrong name again i don't think that brother when did when did last name even get made up if you won't really keep a gangster when did that even start last names at least i know somebody that know your great greedy greedy greedy greedy grandma i know somebody that know your greedy, greedy, greedy, greedy, greedy grandma. I know somebody that know somebody. They used to be around there with them folks. You believe in dinosaurs? Yes. I know.

Y'all know anybody who ever seen a dinosaur? Yes. Who? A nigga who knew a nigga who knew a nigga who knew a nigga who knew a nigga. I can't ask questions to him. I got to ask questions over here. And we just let you jump in every now and then. A nigga who knew, nigga who do it.

Only why we do it by dice though because a nigga told another nigga who told another nigga who told another nigga and they got bones and shit, right? Just like they got historical artifacts verifying that oh no, Jesus definitely was alive. We're not saying he wasn't alive. I'm not saying it's made up.

I'm saying listen, if I wrote a Bible, how many people wrote a Bible like Matthew, John? How many people were? I don't know. If all my niggas wrote a Bible about me, what the hell you think they're going to say I was, man? They're going to. Chances are.

All my niggas. They're going to be biased. Butiggas. They're going to be biased. But they're going to all have a different account of who you were because they experienced you in

different ways. It don't matter but they still going to tease my niggas. I'm saying. But why would they choose you to write the whole Bible based

on. Because I was special. You don't think you're special. Take 12 of your friends right now that believe in what you do or 12 of your

followers nigga that really freely fuck with you to write a Bible. I think they would rather write a Bible about themselves before they wrote one about me. No, bro. Who you going to love more than you love yourself in this world? No, they not understand what I'm saying, bro. You don't know how you touch people, bro.

Yeah. You can touch niggas in ways that is unexplainable, bro. Right up. If you had a chance to write a book on anybody in this world. No, bro. King Jane came with 12 niggas. Hey, I'll write a book about anybody in this world. No, bro. King Jane came with 12 niggas. Hey, I'm writing a book about the boy David, man.

I like him. Tell your best stories. But King Jane's like David literally, though. Tell your best stories. How the fuck you think that's going to come out it's going to come out amazing if they're telling their best stories why wouldn't it come out amazing

so did you think they came to them and said tell your worst stories I think it was first of all I don't think King James had a meeting with everybody whoever did the books whoever got the books whoever did the Bible whoever wrote the Bible and put it all together we got stories

if everybody in this room who I work with and whatever, they're going to tell the good times of bank. They're going to tell all the times I made them feel. They're going to say, but sometimes he be glitching. Sometimes he did walk amongst the prostitutes. They're going to say

all of that shit, but they still going to say who I was and make me a special person because I am a special chosen nigga. I did some incredible shit in my lifetime. This has a regular street nigga. So they're gonna tell that same story as in the book of Jade. What you think they're gonna sound like about back? The book of Shantae, the book of David, my buddy David.

These niggas gonna tell the,... These niggas a hero. Right. So you making a good point, but allow me to make one as well. Go ahead. As much as people revere Martin Luther King, they got them people that's like, man, Martin Luther King had H-O-E-S on top of H-O-E-S on top of... This man was crooked. This man was foul.

That other side has come out. It ain't as popular as the ones that's big up in him but all you got to do is google they got whole books written on how martin luther king was not nobody we need to be looking up to nip is recent as much as all that shit recent nip nip only been passed away for what five years at this point but all that shit recent as much as people as much as people revere nip and look up to Nip, they got the other side. You got people, you can call them haters of Nip. You can call them whatever. But they got people that come out and say non-positive things about Nip.

All this time, and you ain't heard nothing bad about Jesus? Come on, man. He got to be not of this world. Got to. You ain't heard nothing bad about Jesus, but what's the color? Like, the name could be changed. This is what I'm saying. Like, first they saying, could be black, could be white, could be this, right?

Could be different colors, brown skin, light skin, whatever, right? Who's to say that his name is Jesus? I mean, the Israelites call him something else, right? That's what I'm saying. Like, at the end of the day, do we really know the story is what I'm saying. Right. I ain't saying I don't believe that this is a person. I don't say it because everything has been remixed. Yeah.

I don't think that you hear me. Everything has been remixed. I don't think that we couldn't play the telephone game. We got one. We got six people in here. If we had 30 students in this class and if we did the telephone game, I'm going to start a message out. I'm going to pass it to you.

Everybody tell it. By the time we get to get there, it's going to be different. It's going to be different. Thank you. That's what we say. But, Sprig, the life of Jesus, the life of Jesus Christ, all the different interpretations of the Bible, it's the same account of his life. The same one.

What's the odds of that, brother? He was able to heal. But in Yoruba, It's It's many of those It's many of those That's over different things And they say okay that's supposed to be in Jesus You get what I'm saying In the Bible like

And that came before What about the religion that came before Jesus and any of the other stuff What about those religions When people with spirits had religion. What about those? Before Jesus came, before the Savior came, Jesus Christ came, what about those people? How

would they get into God? How would they get into God? At that point, they couldn't get to God through Jesus, so they had to be going through God directly. That's a great question. Not directly, I'm saying they had things that they believed in. They believed in sacrifice. They believed in all types of things.

Stones. I could pull up the scripture, bro, to where God literally says, I am sending my son down here. And any of you. But who wrote that? So are you worried about who wrote it? But I'm saying, listen, listen. How is it true if y'all was able to get to me and get healings and everything on the world and all these miracles was here before Jesus. Answer me that.

That's all I want to know. How did we get blessed? How did we get anything for our sins or anything before Jesus when it was already, God was, we had already be created. Right. So this is why I'm mad. The covenant that was created once Jesus came here, God became way more merciful. That's religion. Listen. This is my final question on it. So Jesus was God's sin.

Is D1 God's sin? Yeah. But I wasn't born from a virgin. We're not talking about the specifics of your religion and what you believe. We respect I respect everybody's religions and their We're talking about the specifics of your religion and what you believe. We respect. We respect.

We respect. I respect. I respect everybody's religions and their philosophies. I don't give a fuck what you do. Cultural. But what I would say is they say the Christ within you, right? I think that story of Jesus is to show us that we should not have these limitations and these ceilings, right?

Right. I'm not saying I'm God like, oh, God, like that. But God is within me. Yes. So if I tap into that power properly, I know since I became better at tapping into that power, like, I've been a better person, a more powerful person. I've been able to touch other people. I've been able to shift energy. This is God-like.

I'm not God. But I'm saying that God is within me. So I just think that the story of Jesus, when they say the Christ within you, tap into the Christ within you, tap into that God within you. That's all. Hold up. I had to trip him up a little bit, Scream, before you got that broken down. Broken down good. You got to

put me back on his side. My shoes tripped up tight. I wasn't tripped up at all. You got your shoes off. Help me understand that. I got him tripped up. I got You got your shoes off. Help me understand that. I got him tripped up. I got him out of his shoes. Help me understand that. What's up?

Help me understand that. You help me understand that. What was the question? I get what Shreem said. Great analogy, DJ Shreem. Great. Salute. You always belt this thing out.

Help me understand. How did we get to God before Jesus? Bro, that's not a hard question it was directly it was like you are able to you are expected to pray directly to god just like now how did we know to pray if one no sins like we died the ten commandments was out what is you talking about the Ten Commandments was out right now the Ten Commandments yeah bro where that shit drop like it's an album

or something bro that's that's Old Testament but let me ask you this this is my question they had the Ten Commandments bro

AD Moses you heard me banging Moses alright so alright so why Moses won a special nickname oh he won he was one of them ones So why Moses won a special nickname?

Oh, he won. He was one of them ones. So why we won? And John the Baptist. You know what I'm saying? You had all the people. Hold up. All these before Jesus, right?

All these people. Who had before Jesus? Father Abraham and all them people, right? John the Baptist was during Jesus' time. Huh? John the Baptist. Who before Jesus? John the Baptist.

So only thing made Jesus, Jesus. You just said John was during Jesus' time. I'm talking about who? He before and during. He was before and during. You said before and during. Okay. That's why he played both sides. No, he didn't play both sides.

He was there. He was OG. Yeah. Listen. Let's go. Come on. So the only thing that made Jesus, Jesus, but he was born from a virgin. Basically.

There you go. There you go. Basically. So that made it seem like he the direct plug to God thank you but the thing is the miracle the miracle

that makes it cause in everything else in life they got a direct plug to whatever it is so if they had a direct plug to God before Jesus got there what the fuck did they need Jesus for? Yo, because that's what I'm saying. Because when you read, you realize, oh, they was wilding the F out in the old days.

They wilding out now. Jesus is still around and niggas wilding out now. But guess what God did? He gave us a tangible role model. Because you can't relate to God when it's just like. Oh, my God. So you're saying there wasn't no good nigga for Jesus. Oh, no.

They had good people for sure. They had good people. But if he was placed here to be a tangible role model, then why did they nail his ass to the cross? To show how unhealthy humanity is compared to him. That y'all gonna take the son of God, a freaking perfect human being, who been down here performing miracles,

healing the sick, healing the dead, blessing people, and y'all gonna kill him? And y'all gonna kill him? And y'all gonna kill him? Because they still killed niggas afterall gonna kill him? What you mean? Exactly. So the purpose that I'm killing him was to show that none of these human beings is our savior.

Because we all corrupt. We all so corrupt that we didn't even kill the son of God that was down here. So at the end of the day you can look up to people to a certain extent but ain't none of us gods. We're godlike. We're made in his image. But when you got people that's out here thinking that's a big difference there had to be one if there wasn't one jane then it would be like well sure we are the same shit continued to go on then that one nigga did not make a difference how you die now that that's not i i

couldn't agree with that one why not if the same stuff continued to go on because not everybody after the time of Jesus is even believing or adhering to what Jesus preached you got some people it's like man f all that I'm gonna go wild out man take me to the strip club take me to the hood you got some people that's like I hear all that message over here but I ain't on none of that you heard me I'm I'm I'm living like this because this is my life. So explain to me his purpose again. And you know what God blessed us with, which was free will. He loved us so much that he's like,

dang, I'm going to give y'all free will because ain't nothing better than being able to say, I want my left hand to move and I make it move. I want my right foot to move. But the problem with the free will is, ever since even Adam and Eve, ever since Adam and Eve with that free will, God will be like, look, y'all can do whatever y'all want. Just stay away from that tree over there. It's called,

you know, that's the tree of good and evil. It's in the garden of Eve. Just stay away from that tree. But y'all got the rest of our list to do whatever you want. That's like we in this studio right now. Whatever y'all do, just don't open that door right there. But our list is good. Guess what the first two human beings that ever existed went did they said oh we want to open that door right there so they went and ate off of the one tree that he told him not to eat off of at that point it's like oh i humanity is corrupted if the first two human beings that i uh created is gonna go and disobey me when i gave him all this freedom and all these blessings? Humanity is corrupted. At a certain point, Sodom and Gomorrah, I heard you

mention that. You got all these other examples. They was wilding the F out, you heard me, in the Old Testament. They was wilding out to the point where God was like, somebody got to intervene. We didn't all need that person how did Jesus intervene hold on I'm cooking listen we didn't all been in school and somebody in class wilding out it probably was you you heard me in class wilding out to the point where they be like

hey call in the intervention officer call in somebody the teacher can't even handle them no more call in somebody man when I was in school they had to come in and put a boy in a in a uh in a sheet with a blanket on top of him and wrap this dude up and hold all corners just to contain him and and pull him to the office when i was in elementary i'd never forget that but the teacher couldn't handle that they had to really get like grown strong so what happened now he didn't suffocate um but that being said it got to that

point to where god was like i gotta call in something that shoot reinforcement reinforcement i'm gonna give them one of them but the reinforcement didn't reinforce that's what i'm saying oh he did and they killed people jesus blessed just because a few people chose to kill you know what i'm saying he he blessed but I thought from my understanding from what you were saying is that his whole purpose for coming down from the heavens or magically appearing in his mama's womb or whatever wherever the fuck he came from

his whole purpose and his whole point was to show that man should not put their faith in man basically right or am I wrong that wasn't his purpose at all so what was his purpose faith in man, basically, right? Or am I wrong? That wasn't his purpose at all. So what was his purpose, man? His purpose was to be down here

and to show what God looks like in human form. You got all this going on in the world? What Puritanists look like. So basically, his act of being nailed to the cross was to show that you should not put your faith in man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So you're saying that there's not another man like that though?

Not another man that was perfect that walked this earth. No, sir. And in other religions, once again, here we go. In other religions, individuals who they have said, hey, this person or this person, this is who started this religion. This is who founded this religion. Guess what? Guess what ended up coming out? A bunch of smut on their name. A bunch of, oh, this person, this is who started this religion, this is who founded this religion. Guess what ended up coming out? A bunch of smut on their name. A bunch of, oh, this person, oh, King James, oh, King James was out here, da, da, da.

Or this person over this religion or this person who we all worshiping or whatever. Oh, this person had, how you think Malcolm X, come on, man, y'all don't know these stories, man? Y'all don't know the story of, y'all saw Malcolm X? Y'all read the book? Y'all saw the movie? Yeah, we know that. So y'all know it's like, oh, but with Jesus it hasn't been something to where it's like dang.

Dang. They ain't found nothing on Jesus. It's going on 2,024 years. They ain't found nothing on Barack Obama. Man, you tripping. They got to do it in... I ain't even going to say that, man. But I'm saying they ain't finding nothing on LeBron James.

Some niggas is pure steel, pure niggas. What's the difference? He's a role model. Because that's a human version of being pure. That's the difference. Even though you're right. Ain't nothing big came out about nobody. Aren't you saying, aren't you saying Jesus is the same thing? Ain't no, no, no, no. The human version of being pure? Listen, although, although, uh,

they ain't found nothing on LeBron. If we ask LeBron right now, LeBron, have you ever committed a sin in your life? LeBron would be the first one to tell you. Cause he seemed like a very humble, like level-headed dude. LeBron would be the first one to tell you man are you serious heck yeah I committed beaucoup sins in my life what you mean just because I ain't have no big R. Kelly scandal come out about me don't mean that I'm perfect out there you say there's a big difference between not one sin not one sin brother not one sin so basically you're saying Jesus was perfect yes I ain't never read that part. I believe you, though. No, no, no. So that's the whole thing. That's the whole thing.

Why it's like, man, Jesus not just like one of us. That's the whole kicker. It's like it was only one of him. It was only one of him. That's the whole kicker. So that's what made them believe that she probably could have had him. Because how he was. How he was.

How he was is like, yeah, he, she. She wasn't. They probably down her until they seen how he really was. There you go. And then when they seen. I can go for that. I can go for that. But does that mean that before this nigga grew up and they saw how he was.

I can go for that. They didn't have doubts? No, I said they was probably down her until they seen like how he was. Like, nah, this nigga is, he is different. He might have did come from God. That's what you saying. He just rose did come from God. That's what you're saying. He just rose somebody from the dead. Lazarus was blind.

He gave this man sight. This miracle, this miracle, they seen he fed 5,000 people with a few loaves of bread. I just saw the bread. All the people out there, man, we just saw that bread. It was a couple pieces. This man fed 5,000 people with this. They were seeing this and they was like oh he different if we was doubting the whole Mary had a baby and she was a virgin we

ain't doubting no more but along with people becoming your fans is people becoming jealous of you too so even his clique his crew he had one of the ones that got jealous Judas he had 12 that he used to roll with and he had Judas that was like, man, I ain't feeling it. Guess what Judas sold Jesus out for? 30 pieces of silver. Sound like nowadays. A lot of people like, man, yeah, I'm rocking with my partner or whatever, but we ain't really as close as we used to be. Wait, what? You willing to give me how much? If I just drop the location on him or da-da-da? Bet. We see it happen in the streets all the time that's how Jesus got took out all of this stuff when you think about it it's like

dang dang that's how that happened and it's super relatable that's why God sent himself in human form in the form of his son because it's like I gotta make it relatable so now when we see man you was rolling with homie,

but then when homie get locked up, you act like you ain't rolling with him no more. And man, that's lame, dog. That's fake. We don't respect that. Now you can relate to, man, that stuff ain't new. That ain't some Atlanta Street Chronicles. Man, that happened to Jesus.

And it shows that he wasn't like nobody else because guess what? He knew already. Man, I already know who's going to be the one to sell me out. It's going to be Julius. But guess what he did at the last supper? He still got up, eating dinner with them for the last time and was like, man, I want to show y'all how much I love y'all. Got up, washed everybody's feet, bro. Washed everybody's feet while they was having the last supper just to show y'all that although I'm God in human form, that's how humble I am because that's how humble we called to be on this earth.

I'm washing y'all feet. I'm breaking bread with y'all, eating dinner, and I'm knowing that you about to sell me out and you about to have these people come in here and pick me up and arrest me and torture me and eventually kill me. But I'm still going to come and give you a kiss and let you know you still my bro. Crazy, man. Ain't nobody else like that. So who told you all this?

It's in the Bible. I'll give you the Bible app if you want, brother. I'm just saying, look. It's in the Bible app. Who verified the Bible? It's in the Bible. Who verified it? Lived experiences, man. Lived experiences. So living enough life saying like it's in the bible who verified about it it's in the bible who verified lived experiences man lived experiences so okay living living enough life and eventually having to miss the only book you ever read huh this is the only book you read books right not just say read books heck yeah but don't know the same books like uh think and grow rich don't those feel just like how the bible feel

no book none of them ever taught me how to have life eternally. They taught me how to get some worldly wealth and some money while I'm down here. That's cool. We all got money. I'm just saying it's like the same type of feeling like knowledge, right? I think it's a different high.

It's a different type of high. It's something that we can't do. It's something that money can't do. It's something that making love to somebody can't do. It's a different type of high when It's something that weed can't do. It's something that money can't do. It's something that making love to somebody can't do. It's a different type of high when it's like it's from the most high. I think, I don't know.

I just feel like when I don't get me wrong, when I go in church and shit, I do feel the energy of God. You know what I'm saying? Like even if it could be Christian, it could be, like I said, it could be some shit that I don't the energy of God. Even if it could be Christian, like I said, it could be some shit that I don't understand. It could just be

some foreign religion, just whatever. I can feel God in the presence of when people are praising God. So that's why I don't just box myself in and think like it's only one way to get to God. If that makes sense, what I'm saying.

And I ain't saying like Jesus not real. I ain't saying the Bible not real. The account of what they did ain't real. I ain't saying that. What I'm saying is we can't say that these people ain't getting to God the same exact way. Because they could have had the same

problem. Like you're saying Jesus is perfect. It's one, it's just one, it's just one, it's just one. That's the part I just don't believe. I believe like it's going to be more going to come. I think it's more here that we just don't recognize these days. We kind of ridicule them.

It's perfect or it's proper? What you mean? Not perfect. Not perfect. You say Jesus was perfect. Okay, cool. That could be the twist. Nobody said that's cap in all these years.

In 2024 years, nobody said that's cap. That's strong. That's strong. That's strong. 2024 years. So what? Oh, boy, Judas just set him up. He ain't do nothing to Judas at all.

Set him up. He ain't did nothing but continue to love Judas. Even after Judas set him up, continue to love him. Wash the man's feet. You hear me? Still love him. And then when they had Judas. I'm saying, why did Judas set him up?

Just for the money. He ain't set him up. For the money. And jealousy. Jealousy. Oh, man. Like, word. Or y'all rocking homie like that.

Or it's all these big crowds everywhere we go the same reason why groups break up Cuz all you get too much attention. I'm getting jealous same thing same type of thing and Nowadays, we just got up. We got to make sure that we aren't Sometimes we turn it things into gods down here. We call them idols We'll be so attached to things down here if they're idols. I think the number one idol in the world is money. Yeah. Like people be so attached to money and the love of money. That's why it says in the Bible, it don't say money is the root of all evil.

It says the love of money is the root of all evil. And that's strong right there. Because it's like, who don't want to make money? Even God knew, like, yeah, make your money, get your bag. But when you love it. So I don't hear any hip hop- Rob Markman, Jr.: That's real shit though. No, that's real right there.

Rob Markman, Jr.: I don't hear people in hip hop, brother, talking about, man, I'm trying to get closer to God. I hear people say, I'm trying to get closer to a billion dollars or a million dollars. You hear that a lot more in hip hop. That lets us know that we loving money more than we loving God. Rob Markman, Jr.: Oh, no, you don't put a worship nint over God. You ain't supposed to, brother. You ain't supposed to. Rob Mark then then you ain't put putting that like i don't put nothing over over that bro because i know i wouldn't be right here but i do have questions about like there's just

only one way to get to god i don't believe that i don't and can't not came nothing in israel make me believe that like this story could be in this world make me believe that. Like this story could be true, but I just see too many different religions. I see too many different people are blessed. I feel like it's all on what you truly believe, how you truly believe what you believe. That's why you're gonna always be blessed

because it's faith. I feel like it based off your faith. If you could believe in, yeah, man in this iPhone this iPhone is going to bless me God tell him God and the way your faith

the faith you put in that phone God will come because I don't feel like he gave directions on how to get to him it's just inside you watch this it's us needing to tap into the spirit within us more than

the spirits that's out here in the world. When you're tapping into that, and I can tell Scream be on that type of time. You tap into that and you start to realize how truly powerful you are. But I know how to stand and be brave and how to kneel and be humble.

Because you got to be able to do both. Because at the end of the day, if you get to that point to where you think that you got as much power as God just because God created you. And if you think that you are a God, then it makes it to where you aren't able to kneel and submit to God. Nah, hell nah. I guess you took that out kneel and submit to God. Nah, hell nah. I guess you took that out of context. I'm saying, man, hell nah. You can't even put yourself next to God. You know what I was thinking of when I said,

I was thinking of Kanye West when I said that. I wasn't referring to you. I'm thinking about this interview Kanye just did with Big Boi a couple days ago. It came out Sunday. And as I'm watching it, you know, a couple years ago, Kanye was diehard Christian, like super, you know, making gospel albums and all that stuff, right? And now, you know, he back to, he putting vultures out.

He back to talking about different topics in his music and all that and just on a whole different type of energy. In the interview, I was like, ah, it makes sense now. He in the interview, he said, I am God. He said, ain't no such thing as killing me. Like, I am God. And he was like, when I prayed to God, he didn't answer my prayers. I prayed Jesus ain't show up for me when I was going through this stuff the past few years with my family. So I got issues with Jesus.

That's a sign of a man that feels like God is here to serve him instead of him being put here to serve God. He act like God. What did he say? He said, man, I got issues with Jesus. Because when I've been going through things for the past few years, Jesus didn't show up for me when I prayed. I prayed and then what's up? Jesus is a God. He said Jesus.

He said Jesus. So I'm just like, that's a problem. We don't realize that we are here to serve him. And Jesus is an example for us to where it's like, okay, the goal is to be as much like Jesus as possible. We'll never do it because we'll never be perfect. That's the goal, though, is to be as much like him as possible. When I wear this bracelet, it stands for what would Jesus do? I first started wearing it in high school because Allen Iverson used to wear them.

You hear me? I'm a big basketball fan. I don't know if you remember. A.I. used to have two of them on. I remember. He used to have the elbow sleeve and all that. So I was wearing them because I used to play point guard. And I was trying to be like AI.

Then I became a shooting guard. But after a while, I started being like, what would Jesus do? Wow, okay. In any situation I'm in, you know how they got like, man, I'm standing on business, man. You supposed to act like this. They got the G code. They got the street code. They got all these codes.

Man, this is my code. What would Jesus do in this situation? When somebody does me wrong, do I react the way Instagram telling me to react? When Rick Ross responds to me in a way that I'm like, brother, I was talking about a serious topic about your musical content. You're responding in a way that's just belittling me and disrespecting me and trying to be funny. Do I go back at him? Because it'd be very easy if I wanted to just make fun of him. It'd be very easy. There's a lot of things that you could talk about. But is that what Jesus would do? I don't think Jesus would do that. So hence, I responded to

Ross the way I responded. I don't know if any of y'all saw that video, but very widely spread video, millions of views. But it was like, it wasn't me trying to go tit for tat with him. That ain't because that's what David wanted to do. David wanted to be like, oh boy, I'm about to roast the heck out you. You serious? Not you of all people, come on. But some niggas be strategically strategizing that shit.

You could send that line out there knowing that somebody going to bite and then you come back with the humble way. Like niggas do that too now. See Ross can feel like that's how you try him. Like you did some shit to pay him to bite the bait. Then you come back with the humble shit and make it seem like I went on that. But then, but then you look and, and everybody in the industry, they got a lot of people who know homie who know me as well.

And people I know hit his who know me as well and people i know hit his line like nah brother d1 hand on that for real like his hand on that for real i like his hand on that for real you know i mean he ain't on what you thinking his his hand really on what he on which is which is bro this dude been about this walk he just yeah he trying to make this world a better place he's's serving God. He on some positive stuff. I'm just saying like how a nigga could take it. How he could take it. I agree.

When the first time you meet somebody, it's through Instagram, and you're like, I ain't even familiar with this dude. I don't even know his face. And then you can instantly respond before you even get a chance to see, hey, who this nigga? Who this? You can instantly, hey, man, what the fuck you talking about? That's why I'm not mad, bro.

I'm not mad about that stuff at all. Jim Jones, another one. When Jim responded, Jim was very passionate, very emotional response, emotionally charged. He went on Sway in the Morning and responded. And there's no part of me that harbors any negative feelings. I love that me and Jim have texted each other, and that's cool. Yeah, that's family. Oh, for real? That's family, yeah.

The culture need to see Shannon Shaw and Mike Epps in that picture together after they was at each other's top on Instagram. Because we so used to oh, they beefed out. We know what's next. We waiting to see who beat who up or who... Or worse. We waiting for that. And it's just like

it's different with this though because they was at each other's top about jokes and some foolishness with me and with different people it was like it was in the name of like man we're trying to make this culture better for everybody so it was just that um y'all know nothing nothing ain't gonna change if we don't make our mind up that we have a problem with how certain things are going. So let's just acknowledge that because I've been doing a lot of these shows lately and a lot of the topics tend to be about D1. Could you have approached this differently? How could you have approached this differently? And at the end of the day, I'd be kind of wondering like, yo, like yo before we conclude we need to acknowledge do y'all even feel like anything should change

because if you don't i'm not gonna knock you i will still love you like equally but if y'all don't feel like anything should change see i don't think joe button feels like anything should change therefore he had like this negativity towards me when he like started bringing my name up on his show that I was like, oh, I get it. You and I are fundamentally on different pages. You don't think anything should change inside of hip hop. I think that there are multiple things that could improve about the state of our culture, you know. And that's the thing that we got to personally acknowledge at a certain point. Do we think anything should change?

And if we do, then how do we think we should go about that change? Or is it like what my brother said earlier? Like, man, I think some people just gone. They just lost. Yeah, I think things should change, but I'd have accepted that it probably won't. Yeah. I think things should change.

Or it'll happen when it's supposed to happen. Like, I can't make it happen today. Yeah. I wish. But you got God in you, right? You right, but that doesn't mean that today I can go heal the hood and make everybody be at peace. I wish I knew how.

If what I'm doing don't do it, I can't. If I can't control it today, that's a massive. If what'm doing, right, by being me, I can't do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I go speak at schools and stuff. I do all that. And, you know, I got a couple guys that be on my phone. I just tell them straight up what it is. This is what it is.

And he's on Instagram. I can't do it. I can't. To me, I can't force. I'm going to give it to who want it. I can't force it because I know it. I'm going to give it to who want it. I can't force it because I know forcing to get you in a situation. You're trying to help.

You're going to give it to who want it and based on something in the Bible, you mind if I read something right quick? Go ahead. So this is a scripture from the Bible. Instead of us giving it to who want it, brother, check this out. So Jesus went out to the lake shore again and he taught the crowds that were coming to him, right? He was out there teaching.

As he walked along, he saw a dude named Levi. He was the son of Alphaeus sitting at his tax collector's booth. He was a tax collector. Jesus told him, follow me, be my disciple. Jesus said, and Levi got up and started following him. Later, Levi invited Jesus and his disciples to his crib as dinner guests, along with many tax collectors and other sinners. There were many people, many sinners and street people like this who followed Jesus. But when the teachers of the religious law,

the religious people saw this, they saw Jesus eating with tax collectors and sinners. They asked, why is he eating with such scum? Why are you eating with people like that? When Jesus overheard them, told him, he told them healthy people don't need a doctor. Sick people do. I have come not to call those who already think they are righteous, but those who know that they are sinners. So the people that's out here that's like, man, I'm effed up, man. I'm already a street dude

for life. I'm like this. I didn't call the body already. I dropped out of high school. Jesus is like, you're exactly who I'm looking for. You're exactly who I'm trying to be cool with you. I'm trying to build with you. Because I'm trying to get you to see that there's nothing that you could do that would disqualify you from the love of God so with that being said the philosophy of I'm gonna give it to who want it like that goes against what Jesus said of course that's easy give it to the people who want it but the people who need it who you were blessed to be skilled enough to reach them. 99% of the world can't reach them, but you could because of the unique gifts and life stories that you got.

Man, you got to do that. Even if they don't want it, they need it. And that's what I'm doing, bro. Yeah, but I ain't going to force it on them. I'm going to do it right here. Like, bringing you on, bringing people on. So if people want to get it, get it right here. I ain't going to be out trying to do all that.

Like, just forcing it. Yeah, no, you can't get it, get it right here. I ain't finna be out trying to do all that. Like just forcing it. Yeah, I know. No, you can't. Yeah, because it don't, it never goes. Same with me. I mean, if I wanted to, I could go to Q, we in Atlanta. I could go to QC Studios right now and just wait for whichever artist pull up first and be like, damn, I'm about to just minister to this person right now.

Hey, brother, you can do better, man. What you about to go in there and rap about? Let me see your rap. Yeah, that ain't it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, you can't do that, man. What you about to go in there and rap about? Yeah, that ain't it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can't do that, man. You can't do that. And that's why I don't do that.

I don't do that. Yeah, yeah. Like, push it out. Like, because you pushing out some deep shit. And, like, I don't disagree with none of the shit you're saying because it's your perspective. I'm just trying to get you to see, like, a different perspective. Yeah. And I appreciate it.

I appreciate it. I think that these are the type of convos, people's lives are going to be changed after this convo. I've never said that in an interview before. I done cried in interviews. I done revealed real personal stuff before. I done been, like I said, Breakfast Club. That was on my Mount Rushmore.

You heard me? Breakfast Club, like for me, from 10 years ago, I was on the BET site for 10 years ago and Charlamagne tweeted, man, this dude D1 spitting. You heard me? In 2014. I was like, oh, I'll be on Breakfast Club in the next couple of months. It took 10 years. I finally went on there two weeks ago.

When I'm on there, I'm like, man, this right here, this is everything. And what God told me was, D, this is a blessing and I'm glad you feel good right now but there's more work to be done so don't feel like oh you made it now because you you reached what was at the top of your mountain in terms of that because although people got blessed by that breakfast club interview I know people been blessed by it this interview right here I can feel it bro just what we talking about and the perspectives we got, people gonna be blessed by this.

Because at the end of the day, I'm walking out here feeling like, look, I done met Scream years ago. You know, my man DJ Hectic real cool. We meet each other. If we seen each other in the streets before this, we definitely gonna dap off his love. I see Baby Jane, you know, at my man Mr. J Hill's podcast.

You came to be on that. We see each other at the YouTube event down here. It's love. We gonna hug, you know what I'm saying? We exchange info. But Hill's podcast. Matter of fact, when you came to be on that, we see each other at the YouTube event down here. It's love. We're going to hug. You know what I'm saying? We exchange info. Right. But that's probably it.

I see you, man. You know what I mean? We, same thing. Bro, it's love. We know some of the same people, right? But after this, bro, when I see y'all, oh, it's an extra tight hug.

Yeah. It's, look, make sure y'all got my number because if y'all need something, hit my line and I'm going to tap in with y'all and applaud y'all. When I see, boy, that was hard. Yeah. It's, look, make sure y'all got my number because if y'all need something, hit my line and I'm going to tap in with y'all and applaud y'all when I see, boy, that was hard. The interview you did. That's fire.

I like that mixtape. You know what I'm saying? That business move. It feel like a different connection now all because of some communication. That's the power of communication, man. I respect that. So hopefully the culture could see that and not hopefully. A lot of people don't see that, but hopefully a lot of people go see that,

but sometimes they could be seeing something and be like, this moving me, but I don't even know what it is. I'm telling y'all what it is. This is the power of communicating with people who y'all might have different viewpoints, but y'all can all learn from each other and y'all all looking to grow. Hopefully you gotta have these type of moments. If you just say, I ain't on what he on, I ain't know what she on, forget them. And then close your mind.

Yeah, you can't close your mind. Cause everybody got valid points and aha moments. You know what I'm saying? From their own perspective. You know what I'm saying? Them facts. Bro, this been a blessing, man. And I ain't trying to cut it yet.

We can go 10 more hours if y'all want to, but I'm just saying right now, like I'm just feeling like, you know, when I play sports, it reaches a point to where when that clock hits zero, you'd be like, boy, I gave it all I had. So win, lose, or draw, that was everything I had in me, and I'm at peace because of that. That's how I feel right now in this interview. But more importantly, that's how I want us to all feel at the end of this life bro for sure that's how I want us to all feel bro

this is how we do it man this is beautiful D1 we appreciate you my brother officially the longest Big Facts conversation ever three plus hours really? yes sir didn't even feel like it right?

didn't feel like it. We definitely going to do something again for sure. I think we all committed to that for sure. Y'all tap in with D1 and his movement, everything he got going on. Check us out too, www.bigfactspod.com. The Big Facts Network. Like, subscribe, share, comment, salute. Salute.

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