The Breakfast Club - BIG FACTS feat. Kountry Wayne

Episode Date: March 15, 2026

The Black Effect Presents... Big Facts! Ahead of the release of his comedy special Nostalgia, Kountry Wayne joins Big Bank and DJ Scream on Big Facts for a powerful and motivational convo. He breaks down his humble beginnings, his disciplined approach to business, his biggest vice, and how he’s built a multi-million-dollar brand through consistency and authenticity. Wayne also drops gems for up-and-coming comedians and content creators looking to turn creativity into real ownership.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Live for Revolta Studios, it's time for Big Facts. Big Bank, what up, DJ Scream? I'm here. Country. Wayne is back on Big Facts today. Hey, man. What's up, Wayne? What's up, Wayne? And it's feeling bigger.

Hey, man, added a couple more. to that bank account since last time when you pulled up on this, right? Oh, you did. No, you. You want to talk about me. Hey, man, you know, we're all right. Yeah, I'm blessed.

Yep. I'm blessed. Yeah, I'm definitely blessed. It's different since then, for sure. Yeah. For sure, for sure, for sure, for sure, bad. What, uh, man, you know, from top to bottom, like, where you are currently, I know that you never just, like, content and happy and I'm done working, you still want to

work and accomplish a lot more, but where are you currently, you feel like on your journey? I'm currently at that space where you are, you know, it's at that point of no return. You know what I'm saying? I'm at that space when you finally hit a level, like I ain't going back. You know what I'm saying? God has to take me out.

It's like, only thing is going to take me out now, if God comes through a health, life strategy is like, you know, I feel like, you know, I see the moon now. Like I feel like, I feel like I got the wings flapping. For sure. Who you think most proud of you out of everybody in your circle, your family, your dolls, every day? Like, who you think most proud of what you're?

your account. The most probably part of my kids. Yeah. Because they, you know what I'm saying? They, they, uh, they're seeing it from a clear eye view. You know, my family's still seeing it from. We come from poverty. So poverty getting your way a little bit of your vision because you still got your ambitions. But the kids like, hold up, we seen them here. Turned them like, hold on them, like, hold on we were in the project, 20, do you know, 2008, 2009 and, you know, 2010, they're still in, we're still in project, 2010, 11, 12. So it's like, My kids, my two oldest sons, and my children, man, like, even I did my special, my daughter, my little's cry.

So it's like, yeah, they're more proud of me than anybody. Everybody else trying to see what they can get. So he said, try to see what they can get. Everybody, everybody pulled up. I understand them, though. You know, hey, man, everybody's scratched everything out of their list. What should you do with them cash that request and them Zell requests? What you do with them?

And most of them, I ain't going to lie. I just send them. Okay. I just send them at the end of the day. We need your phone number. Hey, let me ask you something. What kind of energy you get from your hometown? Oh, my home time?

It's like unbelievable, like that unbelievable energy. But it ain't, that, it's like, I ain't really connected down there like that no more all the way. But it's like, because I'm from a real small town. So it was like 3,000 people. They ain't really know how to land a different. I always looked at y'all like, well, y'all got it good because, you know what I'm saying?

Y'all, it was so big, but in them hometowns, I get loved, but I was already, it don't feel no different than them because I was already kind of famous, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like in trouble, when trouble, who trouble was to Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's where I was my hometown. So it was like, they already felt it. And it was just like, it's been a long run. Okay, yeah, yeah. So it ain't ever felt like I blew up to them. Because it was just, It just kind of did like this. You always been popular.

You always been that dude. Yeah, my uncle and their family. So my uncle and dad were popular in the street. They were the popular dope. They were the popular dope boy with the car early 90s. You know what I'm saying? So I just could attach to them. And it always, they never felt it.

Yeah. Ain't nothing happened. Because I still ain't been on no big movie or nothing. Like I'm still, everybody's like, they think I'm in movies. But I ain't never been to nothing. I did Netflix special. No, you big, though. Yeah, but it's the big the way that, you know,

They can see that for you. Already like, we can see that. Yeah, it ain't nothing going to somebody's a prize. Yeah, they see it. Yeah, like, yeah, I get you saying, yeah. Yeah, nah, like you know you big when it's like, I'll talk about my oldest of aunties and uncles and uncles and aunties be on country Wayne. I mean, it's like they soap opera.

Yeah. They don't miss it. They be on Facebook. Country Wayne, country Wayne. Tell, I love her, too. I love them, too. I love them. Yeah, no, they love you.

I love them. That crowd, man, that's. That's a crowd I always wanted. Yeah. Did you target it? Yes. I went out of them because I knew nobody wasn't going after me. Because I was like, the other crowd, everybody had to share them.

Because I thought about as a comedian, the other crowd, you never going to really grab them because they rock with music. So if I'm in a town and I got that crowd, but little baby in future comes through, that show ain't selling out. Yeah. But he unties. Yeah, you have to be Frank Beverly and Mace. Yeah. Yeah. They only want to say a few people.

Right. Yeah. You know, so I always wanted that crowd. That makes sense. I always wanted that cry. I know nobody wasn't aiming at them. So I was like, all right, I'm going to get that crowd. Whatever I do with this crowd, that's my spending money because they switch out on you.

It's a crowd right here. You got a career. Yeah. You say like the popular crowd, the motherfucker that's chasing the everyday shit, they'll switch out on you. Why you? They're chasing life. I learned that when I was in the project, and my baby, my own, you know what I'm saying? when she was my ex-wife too,

but every rapper they used to get hot, they used to switch out on them. They're like, they won't, one month, they don't wear his Khalifa. And I remember when Walee came out.

Then I'm like, I'm like, hold her, every three months and somebody else. I'm like, I don't know, never want that crap. I'm like,

I don't know, never want because you can't hold them. So you don't think they're like true fans. What are they? Like, if they, because fans are supposed to be fanatics. They wish you good music.

They fans of the cultures. Yeah, they're consumers. So they fans of whatever that is. So you got, It's like a gumbo pot. Gotcha. Versus like, you know, you might go, Anita Baker got fans.

Mary J. Blige got fans. I'm gonna marry J. Blige and Monica them fans. So I'm like, I don't care who. Some rebels have fans, like GZZZ got fans. Yeah, Jeezy got fans. Tip G's. Yeah, they got fans. But it switched when the internet came.

You know, Jiz and Tia was still hot before the internet came. Yeah. So everybody who caught their era, they got fans. But when you jump into this new game, you're talking about the internet. They fans are the culture. It's like whatever it is.

The hot space. That way Jay-Z made that song. He was talking about you cheating on me, but he was talking about you, he was rapping my fame. Sometimes you were with Drake. Sometimes you were... Because it's like...

It's that I picked that up early because I used to study people when I was in the streets. I always studied. My mom used to move like that. Whatever dope boy were hot. All her friends are they high. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But this dope boy house gets busted. I'm like, man. Hey, I've never, I know how I go. Yeah, he caught with it. Hey, I see, bro, I see, man. It's like when Bootsie got out of jail, I knew certain rap was going to fall off. I was like the streets, when Bootsie was locked up, like Goddy was, you know what I'm saying?

God ain't fall off, but it like. You booked Godi. Them towns booking Godi. It was like, Godi, Bootsie, right? Gucci, you know what I'm saying? And when certain people get locked up, this person go up. It's like that in the street. If it three dope boys in a time,

I know if you go to jail, I'm gonna sell a few more the ounces. Yeah. Real shit. Hey, I know I'm selling a few more the ounces. So because it was like, you know, so I feel like that part of the game is like that. And I think that's why nobody in that game,

you like, you be like, in rap you can't because rap is so big, you got white fans too. But in the coming game, when you get stuck in that, you can't really get the money. because you don't know you fighting with the economy at the point. It ain't even them. It's an ecosystem. Do you think consumers got them,

they entertain about you falling off too? Yeah. They entertain about you falling off like shit. They can't damn near be predicting it for you. Predicting it. Like, they do me like on Instagram. I'm like, yo, Wayne don't fall off. They always think I don't fill off on the own post.

I was like, y'all, that's why I don't depend on you. They thought when I start doing drip. Yeah. See, that's what happened with them. I gained on drill because I knew that. So when I gave them drip, they was excited because he's like, he finally feeding us. Because everybody has seen me, but why ain't don't give us no content? He always catered to the auntie.

Yeah. You know, but when I did Drill, they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going to fall off there. I posted something like a couple months ago. They're like, yo, why ain't don't fell off now? He sees he need Instagram because that culture think you need. I'm like, your auntie don't got some money. You're asking your auntie for money. I'm like, bro, if I had to choose, I love everybody.

Yeah. But I'm choosing your auntie. And your uncle, though, they're going to engage. They're going to engage, well. Tell somebody. They're going to tell somebody. Somebody else who got money. And they ain't trying to be famous.

Yeah. And they're happy. Man, they get $70,000 a year. Man, no folk can be happy than somebody with seven me. They have a cookout, play some spade. They ain't trying to be famous. They know how they enjoy life. Now everybody's trying to be famous, so it's like,

ain't no true fan. Because if the Joker got 10,000 followers, you can't tell him he ain't famous in his hood. So it was like they really not, it ain't the fans like it used to be. Like when I was a fan of TI back in the day, it was a different game. It was like, you know, so that internet is just different now, man.

How you skip over the antics of the, just of the whole shit entertainment being? Yeah, just understanding that it's just like it was in the streets. So everybody who front of the streets kind of understand the game. I think everybody who really, really front of streets for real and not on the streets was in it you really took risk out there you're gonna understand

that it's the same thing that it always has been the internet just a big version of it so I'd be like nah that ain't gonna work I ain't gonna keep doing that because I'm gonna fall off that why I start doing drill because I'm like he eventually going

he's gonna eventually fall off so I left while he was up you know like stopping my ears head like he's just just repetitiveness of seeing stuff in your past and use the knowledge for it to see it in your future.

What about like all the negative shit like being in the blogs for bullshit? Like, because you skip over all that. How you remain out of that loop? Man, I don't really my only advice ever been women. So it's like everything else I don't really stay in.

But the negative stuff they try to put out there about me with women and stuff. I ain't gonna lie. I don't care. I ain't gonna lie. If it ain't affecting my money, I don't really care.

Like, I know, I don't care. So you don't care to respond to nothing. Hey, no. Yeah. I don't never respond. They'll never get a response. They'll never get a response out of me because I'm like, if this is going to make sense for some money. You know what I'm saying?

Or, you know, I respond to certain people if they come at my money. Because you talk about my craft and what I do and how I do it. Like, that's why you don't never even see me. I don't even, I don't even never talk about an old black person for real. because I'm like at the end of the day long people get money and they ain't abusing and what is the name I don't play with people money like that because like sometimes even when those

sports cows be going too hard I'm like man let buddy get his money yeah I'm like we should have a cold I'm like at end of the day because it can affect them and milta and have them off a game for real it can meltle and it might affect how a person look at them

yeah so you got spending the money yeah who's spending the money who you know what I mean like I'm mad at that deck prescott but I ain't say nothing until you got a country. I still ain't said nothing. I wanted a buddy to get this contract,

even though I couldn't affect him not getting this contract. Yeah. I'm like, hold up, man, you got lit. I don't really get in that because, you know, that junk kind of, that's kind of dangerous a little bit. That's right. Say the wrong thing about somebody.

Then in the streets, you kind of know who in your time. Like, man, I don't know who these people, who these people got out here, man. So I'd be like, like, like, nah, I don't really, man, I don't care about it. Man, ain't nothing on internet comments or nothing never bothered me. Yeah. You got to be made a still for this shit.

Oh, you got to, because no comments is controlling. The comments are controlling the world. Everybody act like they don't care, but don't comments, it's controlling when people see one bad comment, but they'll get that energy. Now, out of 100 comments, one bad one, now these not and now other ones that was good, he didn't respond to them,

but it's like, I'm grateful for it. I'm grateful for it with the good that come with it, and they ain't got to go to prison, so long as I ain't facing that no more I'd be like psh, that was good, man. How important is it to stay on top of your business because you be on top of your business?

I feel like you stay on y'all top of your business more than your art. Because if your business ain't in order, you can't be the artist you want to be. Me and Tia, me and Tia, I was just talking about it. I said, T.I. If a lot of rappers' business ain't right, I know why y'all start rapping.

Because when you look at that deal and realize how much money they don't made out that song and you ain't made none, you're not going to be able to rap the same. Because basically you got raped. So you traumatized. Whether you know or not, if you go to a therapist,

I bet a therapist is telling them that. Because if I'm in a business and I do a, if I do some content and I know they're making this much money and I ain't, I ain't make none of it. I'm not going to post no more because it's like, I don't even want you to make money now because I'm traumatized.

So I think business, when your business right, then you're a better artist. Because at first you don't know. At first, you just happy to be a artist. Then they give you that show to, what are they tricked us with with show money. Because once you get booked for a show, you know, we ain't never had nothing.

So you get 50, 100. You're like, but if this was big enough for you to go and do a show, imagine how much the source is making. But they threw that show money at us because they're like, they're not going to never pay attention. But then you start hearing, you're like, hold up, man. And when you find out what this really made, you're like, hold up, this one song made more than I made my career.

Ain't no way I'd be able to be an artist. It's like, we're in the street, right? It's like, one time, my daddy, you know what I'm saying, we were doing, we were doing. We found out he got locked up with a dude we were shopping with it. You know what I'm saying? And we found out where he were really getting him for for real. and the middleman was,

he was tearing our head off. I was out of the streets and I was still hurt. Because I'm out here. Like, God, damn. You know what I'm saying? I'm out here. Posed me paying 800 apiece

and I'm paying a thousand a piece. The dude was something for, the dude in the middle of my daddy trusts who ain't had no money. That dude who always knows somebody who is. This dude ain't had nothing, but my daddy just liked to smoke with him. He's his partner to find out.

when he went to locked up, this dude, and it hurt me then, and I was done. So imagine if I'm doing something and you find out that, hey, man, look, this was made this,

and I ain't get nothing. So how do I supposed to go to the studio and rap, unless I rap about that? You right, and I can't rap about that because now I don't tell my fans, I'm a boss.

I'm a boss. So nobody never want to talk about it. It's like they traumatized for real. And I think before anybody started any business, But any artist, man, do not start that before you learn the business. Because the day your business, you're going to get bitter. And you're going to start taking it out on your fans, yourself.

And nobody's telling them that because when your business is right, you are a good artist. It's hard to miss because you're so happy. You get that beginning feeling because you're like, oh. Man, you just say it some shit then. That's real talk. Your business ain't right. You can't be right. You can't be right.

Because you knowing you, you damn never working for free. You feel like for free. You know it. You don't even want to, you don't even want to. He still got money. So it's like people like, man, he'll be grateful what you got. Listen to him, man. I'm telling you, that's what I've seen the soul of people.

My favorite artist, I'm watching them and I paid attention. I told me and two, we were just talking. I say, bro, that would it be. At first, they're rapping for fun. Then they blow up. I'm like, why they stop? You know what I'm saying? You start handing these artists, but I'm like, dang, that's what happened.

To all the artists back in the day, you know what I'm saying? And then they wondered why Kanye crazy. When Kanye went crazy, I'm like, when you see them deals and know what you miss, man, man, man, real enough, he acting out like a bad child. Like, man, hey man, hey man, hold up, daw, we're supposed to have $10. We're supposed to have $10 billion. Yep. Do y'all know how much we making? That's what he's saying.

Do y'all know how much we really worth? No, they don't know. Shit. I don't think of. I don't know. I bet the game, though? Huh? That the game?

That's the game in any business. Somebody got to make more than somebody else. No, but it's bad. Not off you to brought up. It ain't got to be that much. You got people sign in your network. They make, no, they make,

I'm sure you take good care of. I share the numbers with them. That's how good I pay them. I got you. Take about this, right? If I got somebody on Facebook, right, and they work with me

because I don't ever say for me. And I'm paying them a million dollars a year. What's good. How is somebody on a network? can't pay their people that. I'm not making nowhere to know what they're making. But I was looking at

what made me do. I'm like, because people are coming to my platform for free. Because they want to be famous. I could have really charged people to be on there. I was making some of the money.

I got the shit is. Like, it's hard. When your heart right, man, you can't do that. It'd be too much. So I'm like, I was like, man, hey, bro, Mike, I ain't going to lie. He was like, no, bro, I'm happy to not.

Bro, trust me, man. take this man because I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm okay you feel what I'm saying now I make mine but I think but that's why they're so happy they do they do miracles they be like hey man I'm gonna go shoot this and my boy bridge when it shot something in Montana Chicago he he he got there O block yeah but when you getting paid right you become a different yeah they messed up the business not paying people right you're right if you pay or right imagine what the game the energy they're gonna have the energy they're gonna have because now they're going to find a way to get from you.

You're going to find a way to get it back. Some kind of way or their mindset. You don't want nobody thinking about how to get you back. So, yeah, they make a, they are, man, there's money out there, man. Because, you know, I ain't doing enough, I ain't doing enough of content, but it's networks. You go on any networks, but you got to know, you got to kind of know to know what to ask for, too. Like, I ain't scared to ask.

I ask for that business. Because once you know the business, then if you do know, They don't want you to talk. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case.

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and their wonderfully complicated relationships with their fathers. I think and hope that's a good thing. Get to know Ego. Follow Thanks, Dad, with Ego Wodom, and start listening on the free IHeart Radio. app today. Most niggas just want more than what they got already until they find out they could have got more.

That's when they be upset. Like, you got a thing, a nigga fucked up coming out of the streets or coming out of the hood. They're going to agree to anything to get their chance. Yeah. And then you're going to be upset once or broke. He ain't got to be coming out of street. The nigger just been broke. You could have been a college student, but you broke.

You're trying to get into game and you, you know, and indeed people can put you in the game. You all right. Y'all can give me a shot. They're really thinking the people doing them in favor. Yeah. But they got the talent. You get one of them.

Yep. That's how it be. That'd be the mindset from a broke standpoint. Yeah. Once you start making that money, like he said, you go back and see your contract and your lawyer and all these people start telling you,

hey, they got down. That shit do take some of my... I was like, oh, Lord, Jesus. I'm a type of person. I just, I quit too. Man, we got to figure this out, man.

I can't go through that. So you, did you get a lawyer? Oh, me? Yeah. Not at first. I just had... Shit. I was just...

I just had, I ain't gonna lie, man. I went to school in the streets where it just, certain stuff just don't make sense. Like, they came to me with a deal one time. You know what I'm saying? They were like eight, they were like $8 million guaranteed every year and 80% of what I make. I wasn't even, I was only making it around that time,

like six. I was like, damn, how are they going to give me more than one? So Mike was like, bro, take that. My boy, Mike and Brett were like, man, take it, man, because he, they were scared. They're going to stop me. I say, bro, if they offer me that, it's something they're going to see.

Why they offer me that? I'm saying, I'm like, no, I'm straight. I asked for something ignorant because I'm like, I'm in seat. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, no, I'm straight, man. You said, why they offer me that? Why are they offering me that? Maybe I ain't looking at myself.

I'm supposed to be looking at myself. Yeah, why they offered me that? So I didn't take the deal and thank God I didn't. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Well, well, I met now, they're, oh, Lord, they would have been tanned my head off. Then I wouldn't want to post.

Just by even being in your business. By being in my business. They're in right now, oh my God, they would have been, they would have been getting so much free money that I wouldn't be able to share. Then I have to cut the people. Yeah. Because they end it too much.

You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, that business, man, you just got the, man. Because if not, I'm telling you, man, it misses of the art. Imagine being like, imagine being in the studio. and you just found out your song made $90 million. And you only got a million of that.

And your fans telling you to make your best song. It might be a little different in music because somebody got to spend money on you. I ain't saying $90. Now, you write about that. No, I understand that. But at the same time, it's like when you understand what content make, not just music. You feel what I'm saying? Everything.

You know, music is the example that the culture understands because we all tried. in some shape, form of fashion. So I used that subject, but it's in everything. The understanding what the gift and the gift guy gave you really worth. No, but you got to have that. It's a mentalismitania from the beginning because when I was popular in the streets, my baby mom would have laughed at me one time because they asked me to go to the club. I ain't never go to the club for you.

I said, man, they're going to have to pay me $800. It's just a come. Yeah. And they laughed at me. You were a rapper, you wasn't then. I wasn't nothing but a popular street dude. Yeah, paid me though. She laughed and her friend Lucy.

They're going to see this. They laughed at me. Like, who I ain't think he is? But that mentality, I wouldn't go to the club. I'm like, I'm popular, and people know I'm coming. They're going to show up. So it was a mentality. And my hometown used to laugh at me when I used to have that mentality,

but I wouldn't go to the club. I would not go to the club because I was popular. Then I started getting 50% of the dough later. Then I started throwing parties. You know what I'm saying? Then I ended up with a nightclub. Then there were two nightclubs. But I always was able to monetize what I had

because I knew what popularity. to you is. That real shit, way. Does it sound like, man. The real shit, you get any folk, not real shit. You gotta know how value but you is as a person. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people don't know that.

It's a lot of people running around, even being around other dudes, like even, like, you got regular dude that be around rapper. They don't know how valuable they is to their rapper. You give him his whole swag. Just by the way you talk, the way you carry yourself, this thing put your whole shit out there. You don't even know it. Yeah.

Y'all needs got to be aware of it. So, then, you try to turn into whoever you want to be, we already seen to you before. Yeah. That goes on a lot That's a bar What you just said, boy That's going

Hey, Joker don't even know They stealing swag out here Bro, you don't even know Like why brook called me every day He calling you He calling you because he He's picking you He needs that sauce

Need that sauce Like a lot of y'all niggas got to know that bro Yeah People period I just tell I just man Shout out of my boy

I mean RAPE my boy in trouble man Scoot It's good With a real one dog And I always be like He don't know there ain't going to be too many people

who really, it's going to take some real people to really help him because they don't want to run because them girls like him for real. Anybody girls like without the money, they pump fake him. I knew nobody,

I knew no comedian won't go really, really. The reason why I cried to myself and you just said some shit too then. The reason why I cried to myself, ain't nobody coming to get me. Ain't nobody coming to get Cunchy Wayne and I knew that because I know anybody,

if them girls like it, you're done. You ain't got worried about no unless it's another cool player that understand, Yo, y'all. I told Mike, I said, Mike, nobody won't give you no opportunity. You sit five of them women like you. I said, boy, I was happy.

I was like, man, help me. First of all, if they like you, I'm going to make some money off it. You feel what I'm saying? But, man, that's another thing in the game, bro. These men really salty by women, bro. That's the weakness. That's the weakness of the whole game. These men, bro.

Yeah. So salty. They kept about it. They can stop their money behind that shit. Yeah. Like, they start getting money behind it. But I tell the rule to me and my brothers. And everybody told my son, bro, don't y'all never fall out about a girl.

I don't care one of y'all deal with the same girl. Y'all talk about that, bro. You shouldn't deal that. You know, I like that. Hey, talk about that. But do never fall out about the way I write my stories when it comes to Amber and Anthony's them. The reason why I write it like that, because I'm showing them, don't never let it come between business. Because it's like, that ain't worth it.

These dude be following out I'm like, man, I'd be seeing the internet I'm like, man, I knew I'm gonna get some money here. I said, I'm going to get a lot of money because I said, everybody worried about the wrong thing. One thing about a woman, you can't control. They ain't yours. She's gonna go.

That's just what it is. Especially the women that niggas is tripping out about. They tripping out about it. They're in the loop. It's your turn, bro. Nis got you standing there. I don't know. Nah, you right about that.

Nigga, you ain't even got to had a conversation with a woman. Just a nigger look at you and be like, my bitch are like him. Yeah, and you're getting in a deal. And you start hating on you. Like, my bitch are like him, so I'm going to hate on him.

You go back not to be redundant, like I say, it's about what's being preaching this music. Because you got to think, coming out listening to Ball and Gene short, we just wired a certain way. Wired a certain way to follow cold. Wars and shit started behind the bitchy. Jay Tee wanted to try to tell him,

Clio. JT. money try to tell her. Those problems ain't no problem. Don't hate the game because it ain't going to solve her. Yeah. Well, you fight a love, but it just, I don't know we can't say songs on any.

Yeah, we're going to learn a little. Come on. Would you get mad if another, would you accept them? You're going to cry like a, yeah, but they're being their feeling, though. They're being them feeling by them women. And they act like they ain't none of the most dangerous one. You think true, you think true,

you think true players can exist amongst the new Y-Ns, in the new generation. Like, man, unless they want to get shot. Get killed, man. Who? A true player? Do they understand what it is? No, they don't understand.

Do they even know the game? They don't know. That's what I'm saying. So if you beat one, you have to just find your own world and create your own world and stay out of the way, dog, because nobody's not.

Then Y ends will burn you up. For being a player. For being a player, boy. Now, to be honest, back in the day, like snitching was looked at like crazy. they were like, all right, you can't do that. You can't be a player. Snitching, they don't swap.

Like, they don't swap. I was like, don't say they don't swap switching with play it. Oh, yeah, you can snitch now. I ain't gonna lie. Time to go inside the house. Oh, man, snitch. You can snitch. Everybody knows you can snitch.

We ain't tripping. They ain't tripping by snitching no more. I'm glad. I'm in my own world. But, no, man, nobody. If you were real one out here, best thing for you to do, man, because all the real,

they already had a system for the real back in the day. It's the jail or, you know what I mean? Adele. You know what I'm saying? So now with the internet, it's like in this world

and this game, the real ones just have to, what the real ones have to do is stay real and do the opposite of what everybody else doing. We have to be more disciplined than them because if you get caught up

in what they're doing, we lost. So what's real? Yeah. What's real? Yeah. Real is just, man, just true.

True to your heart too. Yeah, man, you're true to yourself or who you are and what you believe but most real ones have a similar belief on certain things. You know, that's a stink right now. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, it's gone. That shit, damn they stink. Like, for a person to actually be them true selves, no matter what it is, like they think real mean you from the streets or you from, no real is real, no matter what it is. It can be a child, baby, or,

an old, it could be whatever, it's just a real person. Yeah. People don't understand that real don't come with, like, colds and more. It's, it is the cold and more. Yeah. It's just real, you're just real,

like, you, that person is frowned upon. Like, if I told you the truth about everything or being just a truthful person about everything, you are crazy. Yep. Because you irritate people's spirit when they're around. Yeah. So it's really lonely being real.

But the real one, at the end of the day, though, only the real will get, real results. The fake have to keep working hard every day for results because the real going would you say a nigga like Kanye is real? Did Kanye real?

I think he's trying his best to be. I feel like he did everybody he'd realize because he's at least he's showing his emotion. Like you can't be in the world that crazy and acting like everything got right. I think his reaction is

it's like a bad child in the house. They're acting bad for a reason. But you think How much of it you think is real? How much you think it's an act? I don't think that nigga act. So when he go, okay, we'll just. Go ahead.

If he, if he go offend whoever, right? Should he apologize? He don't apologize? He just apologized last week? I don't know. That could be an act. That could be an act. But I just think he a bad child, man.

I think a child who I'm telling you, it's that business, man. He keep telling everybody what it is. He said they was getting so much off. Imagine, trying to push them clothes, man, right? Man, you Kanye, and you get to a certain part and you, and they treat you like, because you think you Kanye,

and you get to a certain part and you realize they won't really let you in the industry, for real. And you know, you sell, you know what I mean? It's like getting to a certain part in life, but you feel the cutoff. Yeah. You feel it because they tell us,

but they tell us, we work hard, we get here, but then you get, when you finally get, that they move the goalposts on you. Yeah. I know how I feel because I'm like that on social media. As soon as I hit a mark, then they move the goal post on me.

They don't change the business on me three times. I'm like, man, if I was on drools, I'd be like Kanye right now. You know what I'm saying? The only thing that keep me grounded is that word. I stay in that word. I had to stay with God and know that this happened to everybody, man. Even David, David's own son turning on him. You know what I'm saying?

You read stories of this done happened to, so you feel like you, hey, man, something got to come. Do you feel like that, do you feel like you can, because it's called containment. You containing yourself, right? Yeah. Because you really want to flip sometimes. Yeah, I be wanting to flip. I mean, I want to flip every day. I'd be wanting to flip like Kanye, but not in his,

but I do be wanting to flip because I'm like, I'm getting got. So for you not to flip, is that making you a part like, he can't really be, you can't really be as real as you want to be in this game? Yeah, because what it don't flip me to be, it flipped. When I sit down, when I handle it to my own self, I ain't going to never come out right. But when I sit down the thing, it pushed me to do everything.

Every time that's what pushed me to start doing I did on social media. That's what pushing me to get my own streaming network. That's what pushing me to go do my own movie because what it did is siding me and then it turned to an idea. Okay. So that's what I can do. Every time I feel her, they move, I create another. That's real. Yeah, when I went out to sell my movie, oh, I got to move with me and Coco Jones.

That's her. You know what I'm saying? Me, Coco John, Loretta, Loretta Devine, man, good movie. I put some M's up. I don't know what I'm saying I put a good bit I wasn't supposed to even put it that money that much but it turned into a bunch of

elms of my own money and then when I went to go sell it they want to own it for 20 years it was like a bond all these deals and I'm like oh I got to get my own network so basically you're saying you do react but you just react with action

with actions towards your better future better you like I see what they're trying to do so I'm gonna act out like this okay and then you try to get four people to act out with you, but they won't. So it's like, I feel like, you know, at the end of the day, man, I feel like all entertainers now, you know, especially black entertainers, we got enough money and resource.

We own the culture. Like, we should come together at least get, if we get a black network, man, you know what I'm saying? Because them advertisers don't, let them advertisers, you know what I mean? We get a black network for real and all come together and we're sharing it, bro. We could be able to feed that we'll change the black economy. over the whole country.

Because then we'll see what this really got. You know what I'm saying? It's like, we ain't got no black streaming platform. You know what I'm saying? Music or nothing. You feel what I'm saying?

So it make you, you want other people to act out with you, but you know they ain't. So you act alone and you act with God and you just do what you do and just keep pushing because you notice everybody else ain't going, Kanye might be acting out the wrong way, though.

But that's B saying that, but to him it might be the right way. He might say I'm acting out the wrong way. But at the same time, I feel like everybody should be going crazy. I'd be on the email. Every day, hey man, I don't know what's up, man, but this video is supposed to make more than this. These video, I'm acting not, but it's more calm because that's who I am.

But I understand, like, when somebody, it's like I don't agree with nobody taking them from nobody on the streets when people rob and stuff. But I do understand. how when people are broke. That's why when I go in the hood, I don't really wear no bunch of jewelry because I'm like, why I'm tempting this man?

Mm-hmm. Because I'm thinking... This is light changing. This shit ain't name to me, but it's changing life. It could change his life. Yeah. And he could go back, he'd go back home before the guy, you know what I'm saying? Even if he goes to sell us for $7,000, you know what $7,000 going to do for him and his

mom, his auntie and his fresh outfit. So it's like, I don't agree with how you move, bro, because I feel like you could just hustle. But I get it. But I get it, though. Yeah. And I think when you love somebody, some things you just understand. You're like, all right, how Kanye acted now,

I try to analyze a person because I'm a storyteller. And then every story when the character shifts is something that made them shift. You have to go back. What's the last thing that happened in their life? Like, oh, Kanye, if people listen to Kanye, he was telling everybody, man. Y'all don't know about he.

He wasn't trying to disrespect sway. He's like, hey, man, sway, man. You don't know. If I tell somebody, I'm making seven figures someone on Facebook, and they were like, oh, Wayne, you good enough. I'm like, bro, do you know how I'm in the views on getting? So, like, they don't get, man, hey, man, no disrespect. Don't tell me I, you don't know what I put in the bill.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No disrespect, bro. But, hey, man, don't tell me I'm making, don't tell me I should be good. When I know the ideas and what I'm really putting in what happened, man, I'm getting, oh, come on getting a billion view. Yeah. And you're going to tell me. So it's like, I understand, like he told, I think Kanye told everybody, man.

Now he's acting out, he adding out like that cousin that you'd be like, man, I ain't gonna lie, but we know cousin, we all got that cousin. Like, hey, he's talented, but if he snapped, I had a cousin like that, man, and when he used to snap, we all kind of know, you try to act like he ain't skilled on. But you know, when he snapped, there ain't no way to have to knock him out. Yeah.

Because if you don't knock him out, bro, he gets stronger. Yeah. He turns into shit. At Kanye one-on-one, one. Yeah. Hey, bro. And you kind of like, hey, yo, we know him in the house. Yeah.

But how he's at them, bro, he told us it. It's about that business, man. And we all go crazy. And the streets, people shoot you by some money. So which one crazy? He's shot nobody. Yes, some little money. These people get shot for, who are crazy?

The person who will shoot you over $4,000 or the person who tripping about $5 billion, they're supposed to have. You got it. That's a lot. He really just acting crazy and talking. He ain't shot nobody. He didn't. No type of, no type of. Who's crazy?

Yeah, that's the logic. Man, he ain't put nothing to nobody. He ain't pausing nobody. He's just speaking. He's speaking what people saying closed doors. He just saying it out loud. It's his big world. I'm going to tell you how I know Kanye really

ain't probably gotten all that, you know, like all the allegations and shit that niggas have. You know, like how niggas be having shit in their closet because he do too much. Yeah. They'd have been exposed him for, like, you know, like, if he was a, I don't want to say. Whatever. Yeah, you know.

Whatever. Whatever, if he, whatever he be on in his spare time. If he was hiding something. Yeah, if he had, you know, too, about it. You can't. The world's so crazy. Can't he say that? If he, whatever, they be doing.

Whatever he's on. Hey, but man, hey, in the day, we got to start saying certain stuff to me. Like, I just feel like, hey, dog. You know, I, like, I'm in, I'm in the, I'm in the, I'm in the, I'm in the coming to working on my new jokes and I'm just saying that stuff man because like bro we know come on man why is why you think somebody like chapelle can just do it because you just don't get because he already what this what happened with jappelle his show was so big and he felt like when he felt like he was cooner that why he said he stopped they fell in love with him because he was already doing what

they wanted to do so they let him get a pass because okay you can say you free now but you're done we remember the we remember the videos when you're when you're when you're when you acting like this and then did it. With Chappelle stopped it, but they were like, we got enough. We already got it. It's like when a woman would be like, I ain't did what you don't know,

but shout out of it. All right. You should have like that for you. Then we come. I'm going to church, baby. Okay. I ain't forgot. Damn.

Damn. You know, you sit in old boy like, you're sitting some messages and everything. Just because you go to God, it don't erase the pictures. You're sitting here. If you're wrong. You think God would be like,

let me delete these pictures that you sit to him like this right here. Every chance he gets, though, he go hard though. Yeah, so Chappelle, what he did, I like what he did because what he did, man, he just walked away from that. And Chappelle said, that's why he walked away because when he was woke,

he was like, hold up, they loving me because of how I'm portraying on this show. So they let Chappelle do it because they're like, okay. You know what I'm saying? But he's coming back hard, but it's like, you ain't,

it ain't that dangerous because black people don't follow you like that. Get, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, they know that we love Chappelle and all that, but we ain't locked into him. Yeah, yeah, to his every word. Like, yeah, moving, moving to the beat of his drone.

Yeah, because we all, his style of comedy, you know what I'm saying? Black people just not catching him. We know what we like. Yeah. Come on, man. It's like, you know, it's like barbecue chicken, man. Man, mercilessence. They'll never have nothing on barbecue.

I tell everybody every day, man. Man, I'm a vegan and everything. I'd be scrolling looking at chicken on my phone. Every day I look at a little of pepper chicken. You ain't like the mushrooms, man. They ain't nothing like that chicken. Man, man, they're the same, man. You can trick yourself all day like,

all day, man, nothing like, I want to, ain't nothing like they got their chicken. May I have to go to Blue Flame, boy, that lemon pepper chicken. Hey, man. Do you think it's a real back room to all this shit, though? What? Just to entertainment, like a backroom. Yeah.

I think what it is with entertainment, I think black people got the gift and white people got the gift of law of recognition. I think they recognize the gift more than we do. Like they can see. They can see it. Like we could be dribbling, but they be like, oh, let me create the NBA.

Because when you don't have the gifts, you're thinking about business all day. We got the gift so much, we don't treat it the same. It's like after you, it's like every relationship. When you've been a person 20 years, you forgot that this person is, whatever got you, you got to remember who they are. So I think that's why the reason why I pay black people so much money, because I value me. It ain't just I value them.

They don't value them. But it's like when you, we don't see ourselves. And I think the back room in this game, if we ever try to get into their system, we always going to lose because it's their system. They trick us to get into their system instead of believing in them. Hey, man, I believe in God. And it's a higher source. And if God is God, there's no way.

way, I got to keep going through you. I got to give it, hey, man, I'm going to get my own network, bro. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. And if it don't work, whatever, I believe whoever allowed me to move these legs and wake up in the morning, I believe in him. So I think the back room for them is if they trick you to get in their system and think you're going to come up.

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now this shit gets too big when you got to come talk to mine. Yeah, it already happened. I'm just saying like, okay, but we can stop your shit too, though. You know what I'm saying? Like that type of bad room where we can put roadblocks in front of your shit. Yeah, they can stop it. They can stop it right now. You know what they?

Whoever own it. If I'm on social media, if I'm on YouTube, they can stop it. You get what I'm saying? Yes. So, I'm saying, like, so how do you never get it? that back. Man, I just, I'm trying to, I'm building my own network

and I just believe in something higher. I'd be like, man, well, you stop it. God, God, God, if you do something else for me. Your God, if you do stop it, man, something going to happen to the world. I believe, I got a face like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I ain't never had a gun in the streets,

but I always had a spiritual pistol. I told the police one time he pulled me over. I said, man, I ain't going to do that to you, but you keep pulling me over, man, for no reason. You're breaking your rules. Yeah. You're the police.

Okay, yeah, you know I sell dope, probably. But man, forgive me, let me swerve. Let me go over the line. Don't just keep profiling my car. Because now you're breaking your rules. I say, if you keep playing me, man, God going to do something. So I think the only hope we got, I tell everybody, man, if Jesus ain't real, we do them anyway. Because we're never going to beat them.

And they own everything. Man, these folks can really, I'm making money, right? But it needs to me brag about it, they can really cut me off today. They can stop my page and not let me upload. Right? So I'm just like, man, I got to get my own. I'm full turn Kanye money off. Like how they can turn your account off?

When I seen that, I said, oh my God. They said, it made it public. So I'm like, I just think, but Kanye made a mistake, but I believe that system wasn't going to let you go to that far anyway. They ain't never let nobody. They ain't letting those really go. They show us a few billionaires. They keep talking about, I'm tired of him by the same billionaires.

Stop showing me, God der, Jay-Z and Oprah, hey, man. That's it? Yeah. I know I hear future music air well. Man, who holding this man? Man, that boy post, hey, man. Yeah. I get what you saying.

I'm like, hey, man, hold up, man. Where the money? What we let y'all get a couple hundred million. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, but y'all are made. If that man got 200 million, whatever, 100 million, what y'all got? What y'all got, man? That mean, that's a billion-dollar nigger.

I know they have it. I know they got it. That's why we can't laugh like they got it. You said he laughed like that guy. It ain't the same. You know we got it. Because they soul, they got our soul in them. They don't know.

They took our laugh, man. We laugh. We're laughing. We get to do it. Niggin' shnigling. Hey, man. When we laugh, we got to run and move to get crank that loud. We got to get up.

They stand in one spot. Oh, my God. And we take a picture with them in the house we bought. Like, boy, boy, the house will be it. You bought it. You big dummy. Yeah, that's fucked up, right. Hey, the game messed up.

Hey, all the thing you do is know that the game messed up. And if I enjoy enjoying what you're doing and really go and be trying to like, man, die trying to own it, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, die trying to own it. You know what I'm saying? I agree with that. It is messed up.

But the game, the way they've been doing entertainers over the years, man. I was going to make a listen to music. When I just heard Tupac, he said, trying to get a meal. I'm like, I were trying to get a million. You're trying to get a million. Now, that's probably the lyrics. Oh, okay.

You know what lyric going to talk about? Hold on. We're going to talk about the song. I played it back so many times because, you know, you know what I mean? You trying to get a million. You're trying to get a million. I said, oh, my God. I say, man, they've been doing this a long time, boy.

Dude, he's the hottest. We all, we all talking about the passioning. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, ooh, this game and running, they've been doing it. They've been doing this a long time. And to be honest, bro, it's some good people out there, though, but at the end of the day, man, you can't expect no human.

Every human is going to let you die of some kind of shape, form and fashion anyway. So it's like, you can't trust nobody who got pop over to you to really do, You're right. At least they're to you, I watch how a person treat their self. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like I had a conscience man.

I got to pay the team. You can't trust a motherfucker another motherfucker to do you right. No. How? Bro, just think about this now. Now, I'm from the street, so I'm a tall street vices. So if I'm a bad person and I owe you

and I want to bless you, but I go to casino and I lose a million dollars, man. I'm not, I'm taking out of your cut. right? Thank God I'm a good person. Yeah. I still know the mentality. So what's happening is they are,

they're going to look out for them. So even if they got good intentions, man, I'm going to do right. But then they got to pay taxes or they might got somebody, they got to take care of a whole other family or whatever, man. They're like, hey, man. Somebody got to pay for them.

Somebody got to pay for this. I can take this out of that. I can take this out of that. A human. Oh, human is going to be a human. Wow. A human going to be a human every time. I want to let somebody touch your money for you touching it.

Oh my God. Unless it's our money. You know what I'm saying? If it's all money, it's our money. I hate that play. I don't play that. What? They just text me about, um,

my brother, my witness. A business manager. They sent me over to business manager, man. And it was like, they tried to sell it on me. I'm talking too much on this big fat, but he's big fat. I got a shirt, no. They tried to sell it to me like, this is Eddie Murphy's business manager.

and all this and this and this. And they said, business, I think it was like 5%. I think it was like 5% or something where it were. I was 5% and I was at a computer on the Zoom and I had dead the mouth. I said, if I could get them 5% they're gonna get this money. I'd say I'd rather trick it off. Five percent to do it.

Just on some. They get 5% to handle your business to pay your taxes and all that. That's financial. You added that shit up anyway. And I added it up and I googled it into my tax place. I said, the only thing to pay it is you match send.

I can pay my own taxes. Put the numbers in to account and put the numbers in what I made versus I master sin button. I'm like, who is selling these

talking about my business? I'll talk to people be like, man, my business, hey man, he better go check that. I hate people telling me how much your money.

Oh, man, you should see what my money they always show a piece of a thing on a phone with some numbers going up in the stock market. Man, you better, you better,

you better get some of that money. Hey, man. Hey man. Get some of the spending right now. You say, man. Hey, man. Hold on, man. I had to work hard for this money.

You're going to hold it again? I'm like, man. But I was like, I really realized we trust everybody without, without money too much, too, man. You know what I'm saying? They trigger us. They trigger us like when they sell me these Rolexes. Say, but you could. They always tell you how much is worth.

It's like, man, their watch ain't worth a good. All right, go try to sell it there If everybody gonna sell their jury in one time time They're gonna have the white gloves on Man, they're giving the watch man I like the way to look Manifith said it got dirt right

DECP people DeCos out there showing it like man This is an investment Yeah Come on man No bro I'm gonna watch this year though right

Huh Some of the watches Do do They say that Yeah You get your money back out Rolex to do Rolex to do it

Yeah I can go sell it back But if you hold Rolex For a amount of time though They motherfuck I go up and down like stock market. They say that, but I'm going to have to pay taxes on it if I get the money back. But they do go up and down. Yeah, they do up and down.

I ain't going to lie. It's investment, but it ain't come on now. Well, I give what you saying. Don't oversell it to me. Don't oversell it to me. Yeah. Because I'm messing up. Yeah.

Let me mess up. Let me go in peace. Let me miss. I don't hate when people. Let me blow this money at peace, man. Don't sell me on that. Yeah. You're going to make me not want it.

If I do sell it, later on, that means something ain't right anyway. Yeah. It's probably be lair thing. I ain't go to it. But if I'm looking at my wrist trying to say it. I should have bought it when I bought it. Yeah.

I should have did something else with that. But now I believe investing in people though. I believe, I believe, like, investing in people. People can move for, you know, a Ferrari. If I tell a Ferrari to come here right now and move something, but a person can go make something happen for you.

I agree. So I believe in investing in people. I'd rather lose money in people than be lose money in that system. Let me, because if a joke could make, if you make 20, 30 million in a year, man somebody getting 10% off that that your family could have did if they ain't helping you really make them okay y'all it is some people that do you know what I'm saying

oh but if they get three million dollars probably could have talked somebody about you're gonna lose with your family at first now um mm-hmm you're teaching them you're gonna lose but when they finally do get it you got you somebody at least it's your family you know what I'm saying so that's what I do I put all my everybody my baby mama's in my skits I don't play you want some money you got come getting these skits if I'm with them with them girl she ain't got to come get any skits she's a family business

and I'm gonna pay you you ain't getting out of them you never getting out of my money but you sure can't work for some you can make none of them facts you ain't never getting out of my paper you know what I'm gonna have to work but you're best of people opportunity mm-hmm no you didn't like it

used to rap so when you know like um the rapping one for you to man told you you on thug man and I see Young Thug and I'm rapping Well It was Young Thug and D.C. Young Fly is a combination I was in Atlanta

And D.C. Young Fly had just started popping You know what I'm saying? And it was a girl named Kayla She had walked by and I had One of the New Chargers, you know when the new charges was out I was in the Charger and rental car Pocket full of money in my pocket Yeah

I was in the runner up here And a girl named Kayla walked by I said, oh, she's fine She had the curly hair And I'm looking at her I'm like, I'm like, hollet shouted, but DC Young Fly walked up and Emmanuel with them. He was like, you know who they is? That's DCN Fly and Emmanuel of them.

She was like, she was like, she was like, you know, they're the new internet guys. And the way she looked, I said, hold up. The new internet people is getting the sauce now? That was one thing. I said, I'm going to go get borrowed in. But when I heard Young Thud Rout, I knew it wasn't for me. Why you said it? He was too good.

I said, it's changing. If that's coming in the industry, Because, you know, guy they were flowing, but I could keep up with that flow. A lot of, you know what I'm saying? It's your boy, your old guy. I ain't got talking about it. I don't really know what you said,

but I just know. It's just sounded like an instrument. It's sliding. I'm in the club. They, ooh, kakamooka lover. Ariamara, whatever they were saying. The whole club. DJ's playing it three times a night.

Yeah. I say, man, no. Rap's changing, boy. Yeah. Them boys, them boys, them boys rapping. And it kept, it kept going. Like, Doug kept going, man. You know, then Future had already was on his wave

and all that. Future was just so good. It was like people who was coming, but just, that joke was hitting another level. I feel like they were like musicians, not just rap. Yeah, like, you know, when I was, when I was Ti, like Gucci,

you know what I'm saying? It was like lyrics, saying what, saying about the streets, you know what I'm saying? And then people started rapping about using drugs, still selling them. And I ain't have no experience. So I was like, hold up.

When I was rapping, it was about how much you sold. I had a brick and hit a lick. You know what I'm saying? It was that kind of flow. But then when they started, you know, back in the day, when you did what you did, you kept that private. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? You did. But now it was like rapping about it. Like the game changing and they're too good. And I ain't want to be a part of that. Because I was like, I don't like to be, I don't like to get in no game. I don't feel like I could be one of the dominant ones.

when you knew that like this was this was you gonna be it right here oh because I just knew the comedians comedians were funny but I knew they was all just funny I knew this game the business wasn't over here yet

okay company game comedians wasn't because one thing coming from the rap game you do know rap started getting money started seeing Tia out of a certain way you know, Gucci don't really get that paper. You know what I'm saying?

Unless you just get big and movies like Kevin Hartnell. But I was like, oh, this game is like uncharted territory. So I can get wealthier and this and that because that game I already see me that. You have to go through the tunnels to get the paper. Like versus Hill you create because nobody was paying it. Nobody never looked at a comedian. Rapples really want comedians come around. I never did this.

Comedians come around. They basically want us to put on a free show. I never was the one because it's like comedians don't value their self yeah you never as a comedian they feel like they always want to prove

that they can do what they can do when they already can do it they already can do they already can do what they already could do they already could do comedians never look at their self and hold on we the money yeah because we don't even need a beat behind us the production cost is low

you know what I'm saying so when I came over here in the comedy world this felt like oh my god it's like it's like it's like being from Atlanta you go on one of them country tiles where they're paying double the I'm like they got too much knowledge

in the round game over here it was it was sweet it was lovely because nobody was thinking about money comedians they don't never for real though they don't ever really think about the money I came in thinking about the money off the real

so I was like this this territory was and I knew they didn't have the context They could talk about all this was funny, but none of them got, ain't no street comedian. I ain't no comedian that really had the streets, you know, the women already, you know what I said?

I got kids. I got a lot of stuff to talk about so I knew my subject matter. Especially from the South. Yeah, especially from the South. And I'm from a small town. And I just got more, man, I got 10 kids. So I can't run out of material.

I got 10 kids, the baby mama's, my whole family with me for real. my grandma, my brothers, my sister my godparents, my dad all on work with me, you know what I'm saying? So it's like my family's so big and my experience is so big I knew that it was nobody

in the company gang who was gonna have my subject matter and I knew the people I was gonna pick up who's gonna stick with me forever because it's like, joke might be funny because comedians funny everybody think they funny

and they're funny but man, no comedian, every last one of those comedians I've been around them. They're funny. They just subject matter. Like me and a comedian would beee for one time

He'll beef him with me. But I told him, bro, you're funny. Because a lot of people be like, why they rocking with Country Wayne? He ain't that funny to me. I'm like, but the streets know what I'm talking about. You just ain't one of them people in the streets. I got old boy, them coming to my show.

So they understand what you ain't lived is. You ain't had multiple women wanting you until you got some money. So you don't know how this feel. So it was like, the coming of the game was like, me rapping. I met Dawth. A few months before he passed, bro, he told me, because I did a drip video when I went back to my teacher high eyes and I was like, yo, you really ain't believing me, but I got a mid-state dropper, you know what I'm saying? I was talking like Drift. And when Dolph had seen the video, he said, bro, me my partner was just talking,

you basically doing what we're doing, but breaking it down and putting the company again. So I knew to come, I knew there was no comedian that was going to be able to compete with that versus rapping. I had already been seen because Jesus, was a hustler. Yeah, I was a hustler. Gucci, don't hustle. Yeah, the same old story. Yeah, the same old story.

Then you got a brick, and here the lick shining with, you know what I'm saying? It was like, all the things, what was going to be different? But over here, that ain't,

that ain't really been in the company game, it ain't really been overhills. So you weren't influenced by no other comedians like coming up? Nah, I, I ain't want to be, nah. Yeah, you didn't even know

like, did you land in your left? It landed on my left. I ain't never wanted to be no comedian. But I knew winning part. I said, oh, I never looked at a comedian and say he funny than me, but I don't look at the rapper and said, ah, no, he's better than me.

Oh, okay. I ain't never looked. They ain't never been scared. When we're coming up, the comedies just try to go on stage before me and try to, I'm like, bro, I'm not from the bomb because I can talk. I can say something in here that catch you everybody attention because I've lived it and they can feel it on me. Yeah.

So, you know what I'm saying? It's like, if you go on stage and talk, like, if you go on stage with your, experience and I can feel, I really excited every time, come on, Hill. No, vice versa. You got so much wisdom in the Midstay game. It's green talk. You're going to be so detailed about what you're talking about. They're going to listen

to you anyway. When you talk, if you say something about the street, they listen because they can feel it on you. The way you look at people, you'd be like, man, that joke a lie. You can watch an interview and be like, yeah, you can't even hide and you need some shades.

He'd do that sometimes too. What are you saying? You can't lie? Yeah! Hey, you'd be looking at people like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'll be high, bro. Hey, you can read people, so it's like, no, man, I never looked at a comedian and thought you were funny than me.

What about a comedian, like, when you got in the game? Which comedians came at you when you got in the game, like, we fought with? That you were surprised at damn, that they didn't even fuck with me? The big ones? All the ones who was rich. Kevin Hart Kevin Hart Who else came

Off the real Mike L show love Out of the Real too Mike Lill show love After Real Kevin Hart Cedry Entertainment Major Love

and Steve Harvey He still showed He still show love Me and Cameron Hart He caught me With my special drop How that make you feel Like when you was in it

Even though you were gonna go hard Anyway but Niggas that's in the same lane As you Recognize you How that made you feel Man It really made me feel good

Coming from them though Because I know they had seen it all. And when like, when Steve Harvard called me out and were like, man, my special one of the best ones he ever seen and all that, I was like, okay, he get it. You know what I'm saying? Because it just felt different because them boys,

them boys don't been through them levels. Them boys don't been through all them levels. Yeah. And I studied, and I was fans of them. Before, see, I was always fans of comedy, but I didn't know I wanted to be a comedian. Yeah. But, yeah, no, the validation from them definitely,

it definitely felt good for real. Yeah, they immediately put you like, as a peer like, nah, you want to know. Oh, yeah. They ain't reaching out to know anybody. No, it was like, it was the love and the hate was strong on the other end. A lot of other comedians hate it because, see, they love, like, D.C. because D.C. more friendly than me.

You know what I'm saying? He's like, you know what I'm like, I ain't even mean, but I just, I just be wanting to know. I ask real questions. I mean, I know about that paper. You just can't, like, man, what's the business? So it's like that type of person. Oh, okay. So that's your conversation.

They ain't never, they see me as a real threat because I had my subject matter because I was talking about real stuff on stage. For a lot of comedians see me as a threat because the people was, the way the people was treating me because they was home, when you start hearing your aunties and your uncles be like, man, this country way ain't got all up.

You know what I'm saying? But D.C. don't have the other crowd. But a lot of my older comedians were tripping because I had their crowd. Like, who was this young boy? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They got our audience.

Yeah, in the church. They're talking about you. They're talking about me at the church. So like how, and it's like, it's not fair because a pastor called me, man, during the pandemic. He had to Zoom with me, a big pastor in D.C. They were trying to see how's y'all letting Wayne scream Jesus. But he clearly ain't perfect.

Look at his life. So a lot of people from the church, for a lot of comedians were jealous because it's like, I didn't have to choose a lane. I got the church, the hood, you know what I mean? Yeah. And everybody, because I'm being honest and being myself that I'm not perfect,

but I know who he is. And, um, but no, it's a lot of hate, man, but I ain't, I ain't really care. He's saying to begin or now or still, whatever. That's a lot of hate now. Still? Oh, Lord, Jesus. What they hang on? Tell them what they hate knowing.

They hate knowing because they, they, I ran it up a different way. Yeah. And they can't stand it because nobody can't control me because it's like the way I ran it up. Because that gang control. Like, if you don't, if somebody don't want you to get a special, you didn't get no special. You feel what I'm saying? If somebody don't want you to get,

I'm telling you the game controlled if you depend on the game. But the way I came up, nobody's seen it coming, and it's like, dog, we can't control him. Too late, they're too late, boy. I'm like a bad child.

You're like you saying early about the wins. It's like you're working on legacy now. You and your legacy state. Yeah. Like, this legendary. All you doing is adding to your legacy. Yeah, because you're here. Yeah, because I did this for all.

all social media comedians because I didn't like the way they were talking about they were talking about me and DC and all of us they were like social media got the fans but they were all calling us

broke and I knew I say man y'all got the wrong one talking to me it's a hustler in the game so it's like a lot of them

because they know they can't you can't hold that over me I'm in the big movie you're not that's what they do to us it's like but I'm like hey y'all

but I'm getting it like I'm in the big movie so they hate it now because they hate them because they hate them they hate them they hate them they hate them

And they ain't because it's the way I came up. It's the way I did it. Because it's like, this will happen. When people get a deal, then they try to act like their entrepreneur. They're going to go. Hey, what? What I think about stuff.

Them? They don't say that. Michael Jordan up. Hey, man, they get their money. It's okay to be your check. But everybody want to get the credit of, everybody want to get the credit of a hustler. I'm like, bro, you're not trying to get that tag on you

because the people who really hustles, who died and went to jail behind this. Like, my mama died in the streets. My daddy got, my daddy did 10 years fed. My brother over there did not your fed. My uncle them did not your fed. So the pain I had to go through to become this, they hate a hustler because a hustler is free.

When I was in the street, they hate dope boys. If you work in a lot of dope boys get hated. That's why when you go to jail, you shouldn't do all this money anyway. The uncle come over there, I told you now what you're gonna do now. You feel what I'm saying? So the hustler going to always get hated

because they all want to be that. But when you at home, if you, if you, if you get you, get a TV deal, right? And it changed your life. The fans seen that change your life. So we love you and we're a fan of you. But we don't believe the same.

Versus when they see you get out the mud. Yeah, it's totally different. You get a different respect in the black community where they'd be like, they might be like, oh, man, we love him. He's in the big movie. They'd be like, oh, your family might be like, or country Wayne, that boy, that boy got God, he's different. He different.

And they hate him because black people treat me like that. Yeah. They treat me. They hate it because I'm getting treated like. the dope boy when he come home. Dope boy, you know, grandma, you know, auntie, hey baby.

Give him a better plate. He's him a big plate. That junior spot. Cussing around, man. Yeah, but you're sleeping on the soul playing the game. He's doing wrong, but at least he's taking a risk. He understands. He understands around here can't stay like this.

So he's going to get the bigger place. They got to walk to the door to see your car. They know you out there and stuff. So they hate it now because everybody, man. And to be honest, They don't even know, bro, like, I wish I would have got them checks. Nah, you don't. I just say that sound good.

But I don't know. At that point, it was a point of time my career. I was like, man, let me get me out the streets. No, yeah. Come get me a legit check. But in this moment right now. But at this moment right here, they hate because they know, I don't care about, bro. There people come to me by, man, TV show, but I ain't no way on doing that movie for that.

Unless it's a bigger play than the money. Yeah. Those stuff are bigger play than the money. Like, I do that movie for free. Yeah. If it, but they don't like my freedom. So anybody who free, it ain't just me getting hated on. If you're free, they're going to hate you.

And right now they're like, because they can't figure it out either. Because they're like, how's this boy? monetizing off social media, man. And they like, ain't no way he, they don't got all kind of rumors. They're thinking of selling dope. I want your joke with wool come around me. I'm, I'm stitching. Get it, hey, man.

I'm not the same person I was then. It was about, hey. Get out of me Hey, get from around me But they When I did what I did on social media Man, the love came from the people But it's a lot of haters

In the industry You know what I'm saying Because they can't figure out Who showed me the most love It's rappers Rapples be like Hey man, show me how Some of them got people in the game

Can't stand it Because the people treat me a certain way So they're trying to find the flaw Right now people just digging up my They're trying to dig up What can we say about him? But you already not said it on. I already said it on.

My only problem was women. And we know in the hood. I told, they got mad. So, so girls I know from friends I know, they got mad because I told her, I said, listen, bro, the reason why I don't get in trouble

about that as much because I'm not abusing them and I'm not there, you know what I'm saying? And the women I have been when I took care of them. You know what I'm saying? Even after I left for a girl, I'm going to take care of.

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I'm like, bro, there's people breaking jaws. You're talking about one around here talking about so I hurt your feeling. There's somebody small a little of the day just got hit by Bobby. So, you know, I already told everybody about all my flaws, bro. It's all way been, man. I got 10 kids, man. So it's like anything else they want to dig up. I am who, I'm a better person than I actually put out.

I'm just laid back. I like to eat, chill, my family. Kick it, bro. I don't be, I don't like I roof over my head. And I ain't really that damn dishes. That why I was just from to ask you, you think you're going to push the envelope further? I got to because my stomach full,

but it's so many hungry people I know. So you connect it to people. they stomach stay empty. Yeah. So the negative part is, got to keep looking out for people. But the positive part is that's what he gives you the ideas. Because when you love, love push you further.

Yeah. When you love somebody, you start, Martin Luther King didn't try to get his name on the street. His love for people made him, Martin Luther King. So he just was speaking out. Hey, man, they're doing these people. They're doing us wrong. But now he's a legend.

I didn't try to become who I am. I just was really trying to feed my, damn, I got some money, but now my sister's, I got to make sure my sister don't pay their bills. Now my sister got to pay, make sure my brothers don't have to work. I'm going to want him to have to sell dope.

My dad doesn't get him to sell dope. I don't make sure he don't have to sell dope. I don't make sure he doesn't have to sell dope. Man, my baby mom need to be home with the kid. Let me find a way. You know what I'm saying? It's like the love for people just push me to find business ideas. So I'm pushing the envelope now.

Like I'm aiming at, you know, I'm going on the billions. You know what I'm saying? Because I, but I'm forced, to because I keep running. I keep running to, I keep running to stopping points. We'd be like, damn, y'all can change the rules on me? You think you got something like,

y'all, y'all just, y'all change the rules on me again, but that's y'all platform or this y'all. I can't get mad. Oh, so you're making folks change the rules, like you're breaking barriers. Yeah, it's changing rules. Because I'm getting too many, my engagement. Man, I dropped 40 videos a day of new content.

So I'm dropping more videos. of new content to everybody in the world. 40 videos a day? Yeah. They drop it right now while we're talking. The turnaround crazy too. I was in one with bread. It might have came out the damn same day.

Oh yeah. It don't take no, but we don't edit. You just say action is cut. And you cut off action and cut off action and cut off cut. And it's ready to go. So they try to stop because it's like the crack epidemic. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Why everybody was trying to pull their needle out and wrap their arm up. Joke, cock, cock, cock, cock, cock, psh, psh, psh, psh. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So the crack epidemic was,

with the content game, the way I filmed, they're calling it, what they're trying to do now. They're copying what I started. They're trying to call it verticals. Hollywood taking it and gave it a name.

So now they got everybody, Kim Kardashian, everybody vesting in these vertical platforms because I was the only one shooting with the phone up and down. Up and down. Okay. Bread told me,

you got to have it sideways. I said, that don't make sense. I say because, people so got ADHD, they don't feel like taking that extra step. So they have to really like something to do this versus I say, if I'm up and down,

they'll be like, oh, what's this? And by the time they'd be like, they hook, so now they scroll in this way. People don't like to do no extra move. Hmm. So I'm a nigga, bud. I started that 2014. Last year, last year they started verticals in America.

You know what I'm saying? So everybody on verticals now. Everybody doing the verticals, but I've been doing it. They're doing the verticals and they're doing microdramas, but I was the only one doing soap operas on social media. I stopped being funny because I seen them. I call my boy Mike. I'm making money with drip and all that.

But I was like, I was something told God woke me up out of now. And I was like, what movies make the most money? I like, the biggest, I Google comedy movies. Company movies ain't make that much. I was like, all the biggest move is like, hangover. Trauma, okay. Hangover. Oh, okay, yeah.

So, but it's only a few of them, but all the drama, relationship moves last and longer. Yeah. So I was like, I switched that day, we went to set. So it was a skit, Mike pose to be fine. I say, stop being funny, bro. I direct, I say, no, you gonna do this, look her in the eye, get serious. I switched that day.

I stopped, I stopped, I stopped drip off the real, you know what I said, man, drip be good for some reels or something, but you got to sit down right now because the relationships and these story lies you know what I'm saying and I was doing it in my agency then was mad because like people be when they be putting the list out of comedians I don't get mad because they're right

I ain't been funny on the internet three years people be taking up with me like man y'all got way and messed up no they don't because I stop being funny with Drill so they're right I don't I don't deserve to be on them list unless you watch my special

you know what I'm saying my specials drop You know what I'm saying? Like, shout out my special March 23rd. Dropping on Amazon. There you go. My second special, my first one dropped on Netflit. But my special drop, you get that side of way.

But I don't sell that for free. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm just, the drama told us. Sell it for free. Yeah. No, man. So I really realized that soap operas and relationships and serious was going to last. Because everybody who'd be funny on social media, boy.

They're not going to watch that for. three minutes. See, to monetize on social media, you got to do three minutes plus. So you can't do that because you're going to clip it to death. They might watch it. That's why our reels are 90 seconds because they already did the research that three minutes, you're going to have to be able to act. You don't have to add them chops. So you're going to have to be able to somebody be like, oh, so you find out your girl cheat.

Really, you take a beat, but you're trying to get, trying to waste some seconds. You can put three minutes on Instagram? Instagram on page because they were paid. But I was the only one doing it. That's why I was on Instagram head with dripping all that. And they kept a G because they did pay me three months after I got off. They was like, we finished in the program, but you been going hard. You know what I'm saying?

But nobody was doing it. Nobody ain't wanting the money. People still, man, content creators, man, content creators, bear. I don't do no business with content creators because I'm like, you won't even get the money that's on there. You know what I'm saying? They were not posts for three. minutes. They were still posting to get a reaction and attention. I'm like, how many

times these people going to make you laugh? Like, man, my boy, Desi told me, he said, he don't like post long content because his fans don't like it. I was like, hey, man, mine ain't like it at first. But, hey, man, I'm not fin to sit here on this platform. Then just be funny if it ain't paying me. You know what I'm saying? At a certain point, you got to cut that off.

But now, Instagram don't pay, though. So what's the ones getting the money up? YouTube, YouTube and Facebook. YouTube and Facebook. TikTok ain't getting the money? Nah, they ain't getting that money, man. Because everybody, the problem it is, think about it. The advertisers is not fin to pay for no real.

Yeah, no 15.36. They can't put the ad in there. So the reason is my YouTube in it because the audience is trained to watch longer content. Them ads got to come in, though. So people got to understand. Really your fans were relevant for you to pop on social media because it's a free product. My fans don't have to pay for me to get paid. The advertiser are going to pay me.

So you should drive your people to YouTube and to Facebook. They don't mind following you because them reaffirmed those are not consumers. They don't mind following because it's free for one. And I give them new content every day. So a restaurant, they got some new, some fresh chicken every day. And they're killing the chicken in front of you. You're like, you know it's fresh. somebody ride about it.

They're killing that one day they got a whole bunch of chickens. They plucking feathers. You're like, man, every day it's exciting because ain't no clips. This boy really dropping 40 brand new videos a day.

And, you know, it's like it's like, it's the game. But I stopped being funny on social media since 2021. I stopped drip 2021. That's the last time you see me. I ain't been funny so long that I didn't.

the drop that I'm coming back. Before I did the drop, I said, watch this drop go brown. I was starting to stand though. But I was funny a little bit. I was like, well, I'm back. They laugh at anything now because Wayne ain't being funny. Every time you see them, they're like, every time I do something out on the internet, they laugh so hard. Because, like, dog, bro, you used to be the old man buddy.

Hey. Well, you shot especially at the next one. Oh, I shot in the eight. Of real. I shot it. Oh, I can't say eight. Oh, Lord. The second one, the second one way different than the first one.

The first one was good and everything, but I had to let people know who I would. I'd been had no joke. But the second one, man, I came out at Dolf because, see, I don't got it. See, the first one, I couldn't beat everybody who I knew they weren't going to give me that money. So I was like, I came out of Fantasia Wayne is the good. But the second one, the streets. The second one, I came out of that Dolf.

What's the name of it? Huh? What's the name of the fish? Okay. Like, I'm taking them back to how things was. Yeah. The jokes. I can't, you know what I said.

Got the red suit. You know what I'm saying? The part before the special, it's just like that second special I did in the A, you know what I said? We did two shows and it was just like, yeah, yeah, y'all, y'all. So, yeah, we're here. We definitely gonna be tuned in.

Yeah, March 23rd, man. What kind of number, like, one of the entities wanted you to be exclusive? We've seen shots to like Charlemagne 200 in, was Joe Rogan, 100 and something else. Just the people who get them type of deals and we know you getting plenty of paper. What kind of number? would make you maybe entertain locking in with an entity is there a number yeah half a B

half a 500 M's yeah because I get a hundred me man yeah they're having a hundred me for like like for four years that's that's 25 million a year yeah yeah you're gonna lock me in man I need a half a B man I need a half a how many years you do to have a B man have B man I I'm some real stuff where I'm at right now I get I just sell them yes. They won't lock me in because it's like right now doing it has to take me from everything I'm doing. And then like you would be exclusive,

whatever is like an unproven platform. Like it ain't a platform. It's a new platform. We got that 500 from one of them Arabian princes and some shit, boom. But you're coming to build a whole new platform. Would you fuck with him? Yeah.

Have a being. If I get, I still want ownership. Have a billion. I got, you got talk. Yeah. Yeah, you're tired to talk. I'm trying to talk. Half a billion.

Yeah. Because I'm going to get hit with taxes for once, so I don't really want that money to come at one time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got the, but a half a billion, I really be like,

let's just use that money to, I really want ownership of that. Ownership. You know what I take less with ownership because if we got that kind of money, let's use this to create some more content because, you know, my goal, I'm trying to build my own streaming service,

country-wain streaming service. Yeah. Oh, you're going out. Yeah, I got streaming service coming. But this is what made me do it. When I put my moving, they want to own it. I'm like, man, I'm going to build my country. Why ain't streaming service?

I'm going to get my people, try and $5, you know what I'm saying? I ain't going to tell everything on hell because I know people listening. But the ideal, I know it's going to work and I know it's going to make some big. And they're going to go back and watch this. In three years, the way I have my streaming service, I ain't trying to be biggest Netflix. But what's going to be on there, it's going to be. be strategic, specific. In three years, man,

I know it at least make a hundred million a year. And I know that. So it's like, Birxam going to really have to give me some money because they're not coming to get me. They're coming to get my ideas. When I start putting the skits out without me, I told my boy Brett,

I say, I'll feel to make people fall in love with my mind instead of me. Because when you're a superstar and they start falling in love with you, It's dangerous because as soon as you remove you, so what I did on social media, I stopped being the main person on my platform because I realized the game ain't for you to get big.

Now I want your platform to be bigger to you. Because if you big, if you don't feel like doing something or you got to be, you know what I'm saying? Like when I was dripped and budding Wayne, they were just on me. So that means if I stopped, your algorithm will go down. I eased. I eased Blake.

I had a girl they ain't, Blake and Roe, I did a skit with them one day without me in it. And the fans watched it, it took them a minute to realize I wasn't in it. I said, oh my God. I got them. And I started ease them to end, and I eased my kid, and I ease back. And I started writing them

those stories. Then when I was able to write and I wasn't in them skits, it's like, this was the platform for. That's where the platform is. It ain't for. Yeah. But I knew no content curators weren't going to do it because they got ego and they're not going to never move out of the way and let nobody shine. They're going on the state of start.

versus me. I'm like, I like the money. So I don't care, Mike. Right now, I got Shaylor do better than Huskis do better than my own on my page. I don't care. It's all to say. But I knew. That's what we did for.

Yeah. But I knew nobody else was going to do that because everybody wants to stay the star of their page. Like, bro, it's called a network. If it's called, it's a network so you can't stay the star, man, we don't. Man, I don't even know how Coca-Cola look. Who on Coca-Cola? We don't know. In order for you to come a brand,

you've got to get your face back off it because if I were to stay on social media myself, bro, and got too big, they would have stopped following me because if you get too big individually, man, the hate going to come. But you can't hate me, Mike, Brett, Shailor Roe, and all the, I knew with the women anyway. No, you're saying some shit.

I knew to keep men engaged, but you getting too big, people come like, bro, you gave too much money. And another thing of what you're saying, you don't want the company to live and die off you because anything can happen to you, anything, you can get tired of this shit. Yeah. I'm tired now.

I'm trying to build some old people up that you don't slip them in the right way. Slipped them in the right way because it's like, really, to even be able to do stand-up, I had to build it like this because it was either one or the other. Yeah. So I had to build it. That's why I stopped standing up for a minute a couple years ago, before I even announced it.

But once I build it, now I can go do stand-up. Now I can go build my app. Now I go shoot a movie. Because that's somebody in my clique shoot some videos right now. While I'm here, Terry them shoot, they shoot 14 for me today. It Mike shoot the day.

He probably shooting a dula. He probably shooting 20. Because Mike turned in on, shoot Mike and Bread turning together about 500 videos a month. Five hundred. Those bids are boys. They're boys.

You only doing that if you make a money. You're like, bud. Yeah, Brad, I told him, if I went on here, I said, I'm going to bed fast, man. I say, I say, because I'm just proud of bread because I met bread and, hey, he was trying to do this. He, like, he was done with DJ. Like, he left something that he was big at. And now, you know, I know, I remember a lot of people, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people, like, hey, see his potential thing.

He didn't think he's going to come back up. But I told him, I'm happy, like, bro, making, I pay bad, bro making seven figures a year. Yeah, yeah. Him and Mike, bro making seven figures. But them boys They work Them boys get it done And they got people

Moving for They got companies They might got people Shooting for him It's just like the streets You know what I'm saying You got it's in hell You got a trap house over there

This person doing this man I taught everybody The game And how to use Your resources So I think When people think about content They overthink it

Versus me Man my brother When I was drill That was my real brother T who ain't saying that I use my family first I use everybody rhyme and you can't act

don't say nothing so I ain't I just let T talk just stay here just stay here T got there drip like yo T how you feel

him he's going to shake his head hey K. Him in real life yeah he can't talk so

so it was like man you know that that social media man it's about building a platform and putting other people

That's what every business is about. God wants you to put people on, but you got to have a heart to really do that because that's who he's going to bless. Because I tell a lot of people, I say, bro, he's some people in my team. I say, y'all think I'm smart, but it's these ideas God give me

because God know I'm going to give it away. I say, y'all trying to post like me and it's like other country created. Like Wayne, how you do this and now? I say, bro, I don't know how I do it. When God trusts you that you go give it away, he going to get them ideas. He knew I was going to give it away

before I got it. You know what I'm saying? So I made sure, like they, and when I first started, everybody was saying I was overpaying. Other content creators, like, you're stupid.

But now they stuck in front of their camera. Because what happens is, even when you're streaming, they think streaming big, but how long can you stream? Because that means you can't go do nothing else. And if you get from in front of the camera, are your followers still going to follow you?

Hmm. So, like, everybody, like, I'm streaming like, bro, streaming is a young man's game. We all, remember we stay up in the club? If I stream, my people are going to watch me take a nap. Like, man, everybody who, man, all right, feet 35 up and try to go stream if you want. All right.

That's a young man's game because we used to stay up all night. Remember, go to the club, come back, go go do what we got to do. But you don't want to be stuck in front of that camera because it's good to build up, but eventually you have to remove yourself for the business to grow. Because you got to go do other things. You know what I'm saying?

That makes sense. What's the biggest jam you want to get to people on Big Fax, man? It's a real game. Man, some real game, man. Man, trust the one who made the sky blow in the wind blow and made you wake up in the morning is the real one.

And I promise you, man, if he woke you up this morning, if you just trust him, man, you could do something that you ain't know you can do. He love you just like, and start competing against your own people, too. You know, look at the real oppressors and go get with yours and know if somebody woke you up this morning and gave you lungs and all these creative things in our body,

we got ears that can hear, we got, you know what I'm saying? That, whoever that is, which is my God Almighty, you know what I'm saying, which I believe in Jesus. Whatever that is, believe in that. And no, bro, that's your gun. that's your money, that's your everything, and that's more powerful, because that's one thing they can't recreate.

They can't recreate. They can't recreate us for real. So believe in yourself, dog. Believe in God, believe in the God God God of you and wake up with that attitude every day. And don't never let nobody tell you that that ain't true because it is.

That's real shit, man. Country Wayne, dropping big jims on Big Fats. We appreciate you, man. We appreciate you pulling up. Big Jim. You just gave me a name. I'm from a cop of y'all. Big jims.

But y'all going to shoot me. Anger. Go. The little bit again. Yeah, exactly. Woo. Where you did, hey? Big jims.

Well, you didn't say something that, boy, you need, amen. You always create. Yeah. Big jills. We're going to start a side podcast and side big fagging.

Let's do it. It's hard. On the country land network. Basically, bro, you living in a miracle so just know anything is possible. Basically, on some cheese shit.

That's, bro, what you just said, I want to do it back out there. That's why I tell everybody all the time. And what God gave you a miracle, stop trying to make it regular. Right. Because I tell everybody in my count,

I say the problem is y'all try to bring regular rules in a miracle. If this is a miracle or it's a hard work, let it be a miracle. And when a miracle, you're going to overpay, over eat, I mean, you're going to get more than what you're supposed to. Right. And this, you get what you're supposed to. And this, where every day, like,

Christmas. Club Runoff. What's next? Man, that real shit. Yeah. Country Wayne, big facts. Make sure y'all check out that special. Yeah, March 23rd, man.

Nostalgia. It's the realest. It's the funnest thing. It's for us. And I don't know which camera I'm looking at. But March 23rd, when Country Wayne touched that stage, you're going to know why I'm the funniest thing out here.

And there ain't nothing can touch the people's soul like me when it comes to comedy. Because I'm still with the people because I'm still with myself. March 23rd, nostalgia. Your country, though country boys in the A coming out with a red suit and neppy hell. Yo.

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