The Breakfast Club - Black Ink Crew Interview and More

Episode Date: February 18, 2019

2-18- Today's episode we had Jay Williams stop by where he spoke about Smart Athleticism, Ownership and more. We also had Ryan Henry and Bishop Don from Black Ink Crew: Chicago stop by and spoke about drama that happened in the shop, new businesses and more. Moreover, friend to the room Michael Eric Dyson stopped by and spoke on people cancelling culture, Kamala Harris and more. We flashed back to Charlamagne giving "Donkey of the Day" to another Florida person this time to one that was a party pooper, literally!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast

Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on.

So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, in the morning, I'm talkin' right now You're about to experience a morning show unlike any of us Shout out to The Breakfast Club, I hope to see y'all every morning What you guys are doing right now is the hub culture The Breakfast Club is my morning sit I need it and I love it so much

I feel like you're really not poppin' until you do The Breakfast Club I've been waiting to come to y'all's show, man I know you gotta be a big-time celebrity to be up in here. You gotta be big-time. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God.

The Breakfast Club, bitches. Break the f*** out. Let's go. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, stay in with your chest. We wanna hear from you

on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, let it out. Hello, who's this? Yeah, this is Josh. Josh, get it off your chest. Hey, first I just want to say, man, I listen to you guys every day.

Love you guys. You guys are awesome. Thank you, man. Is Charlamagne in today? Yes, I am, sir. That's amazing. Y'all got to ask if I'm in today. I wouldn't know if you were in or not. Damn. You kill me when I listen to you guys and I don't hear that yo, yo, yo, yo, yo at the beginning.

All right, well, this is for you, man, for Charlamagne. You know, I understand that a couple days ago you said that you wanted your daughter to bring home the same race that you guys are, which is black. I understand that completely. But seven out of ten domestic violences that are reported on a female are from a black guy. How would you feel if you kept putting it on your daughter about dating a black guy, but then she was getting beat up all the time? First of all, I don't even know if this statistic is real. I don't know about that statistic. And it's coming from a white man, so I refuse to believe it.

It's real. It's real. Google it. You sound like a... That's like saying, you know, a majority of black people in America have probably been killed by white people historically, whether we go from slavery to Jim Crow segregation to now. So I should never let my daughter date a white man? The white man has historically been behind every mass carnage and murder in America,

so I should never let my daughter date a white man? Just saying she dates a Jacob or a Stephen, man. She might be more comfortable. You never know. Man, get off my phone before I call you a crack-ass, crack-up, white devil, racist. I don't know where he got that statistic from. Oh, okay.

Get it off your chest. I didn't call him that either, by the way. I said before I called him a crack-ass cracker. You know what I'm saying? I took a deep breath. You got you. You know, before I said anything to whoever he is. Hello, who's this?

This is Brandon. Hey, what's up, Brandon? Get it off your chest. All right, so I got two things. Quick question. Well, mainly for Charlamagne, but for all three of you. Charlamagne, I know you talk about how you're from Montclair, South Carolina, and all that. Yes, sir.

So, are you implementing any, like, mental programs for, like, the young kids so they don't do any of these crazy things? Because if people are interested in getting into the industry, like TV, film, radio, is there anything that you're introducing to those kids down south where you're from? Say, hey, you can do this instead of doing something crazy or keep the kids off the street? Yeah, you know, I've been doing that for a while because I got a nonprofit called Third Eye Awareness, and, like, one of the first initiatives we did years, years, years ago

was called the No Matrix Movement, and it was to show kids that it was other career options other than rapping and athletics. But we do a mentorship program every year that my cousin Kente does, and, you know, basically we just show guys other career options. And I know that always sounds like hypocritical coming from me because I'm in the entertainment business. But, I mean, I know a lot of doctors and lawyers and engineers

and architects and politicians and tech guys, co-creators. I'm not always talking about, like, on-air stuff. Like, make behind-the-scenesscenes stuff like soundboard, camera, any type of stuff like that. Oh, yeah. I always encourage kids to do that before they become on-air personalities. I think that the programming side of things in radio is lacking. We need those next program directors and music directors.

Yeah, very much so. I'm on set right now, and I'm one of two black dudes on set. I'm working for a TV show right now in California. And camera people stay getting work all the time. All the time. One more thing, Sh**, Ayi, I have one quick thing for you. Yeah. You had Melvin call in, and he was saying all the things about him calling a girl

and being upset with her about the conversation that he was having or not getting with her. Uh-huh. Correct? Uh-huh. And you're promoting men doing better and talking to women better and doing all these things to better men, right?

So why would you, do you think it's a little hypocritical to say that to men and then tell, allow women or condone women not being upfront and honest with men saying, okay, I'm not interested instead of ignoring them doing things like that? Yes, there are men who are crazy. Yes, there are men

who are doing these wild things with the ones who are not doing that. Listen, if a woman is not responding, if a woman is not responding to you, my whole point, and it doesn't have to be mutually, I mean, it could be two different things, but if a woman's not responding to you, that doesn't give you the right to be nasty and rude to her. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not saying be nasty at all. I'm saying the ones who are upfront, honest, and saying the things'm not saying be nasty at all. I'm saying the ones who are upfront, honest, and saying the things that they need to say that are correct for two women like Melvin at one at the beginning at least. Is it a little bit hypocritical to say, okay, it's okay for her to ignore him?

I didn't say it's okay, but it is okay for her to ignore him. If she's not interested, she doesn't owe him anything. She doesn't even know him. I know she doesn't owe him anything. She wasn't nasty. She wasn't rude to him. She didn't lie

to him about anything. Sometimes you just have to take the hint. If someone doesn't want to talk to you and doesn't want to respond to you, they're not obligated to. Granted. You got it. So that's all like, listen, take the clue. I'm not interested. I just didn't respond. You know, it didn't work out. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.

If you need to vent, you can hit us up right now. Keep it locked. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired?

Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.

55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves.

What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help!

We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.

That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know, follow and admire, join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered.

There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. We'll be right back. What would you do a pull of Andy for? Uh-oh. Yes. If you don't remember who Andy is, Andy is the guy that was willing to give fellatio to get the water in at the Fyre Festival. His name is Andy King. Andy King. Andy the BJ King. I was thinking about this real hard, man. Hey.

Hey, it got to be hard for you to think about doing it. I'll probably suck a dick for Travis Scott not to ever sing live again, bro. My man's just super whack. Hold on. Wait a second. So you would give another man fellatio for Travis Scott not to sing live ever again? Hell yeah, bro, man. Yo, he suck live, bro.

Yeah, I think it's safe to say you suck all the time on the regular. You don't have to. You don't have to. If that's your excuse for wanting to suck, bro, I think that you suck more than you letting on. You like it, we love it, bro. Enjoy. Andre! I don't think that was a good time to on. You like it, we love it, bro. Enjoy. Andre! I don't think that was a good time

to say if you like it, we love it. What's up, FB? Okay. Andre, what's up, man? What's up, FB? Yeah, FB, you know what's going on, you know.

You know what's good. Andre from Atlanta, you know. Huh? Nothing, man. Give it up for your chest, bro. Andre from Atlanta. When people say you know what's going on, Andre from Atlanta,

I just assume you gay. Nah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Don't do that. Don't do that. You know what's going on. It's Atlanta. What you assume you're gay. Nah, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Don't do that. Don't do that. You know what's going on. It's Atlanta. What you want me to say?

Nah, nah, nah, nah. Not like that. We don't know what's going on like that. But you know what's up. You know, I'm about 18, you know. About to apply to college today. Georgia State today. And hey.

Hey, what's up, boo? What's up? You doing good? I like how your whole voice changed. His voice just changed. When he talks to me. It definitely changed. Hey, Salome. Salome. I'm not like you, bro? What's up? You doing good? I like how your whole voice changed. His voice just changed. When you talk to me. It's all the man. It's all the man.

I'm not like you, bro. That's you. All right. What's me? That's me. Nah, that's what the gay is. All right. Well, you got...

Okay, sis. You have a great day, okay? It was a pleasure talking to you this morning. It was a pleasure talking to you, too. Have a good morning, sis. Ow. Christy! What's up?

God damn, man. What God got to do with this? Wow. Listen, y'all do not know how much I am in disbelief. Like, I try to call you

mother****** so much. Christy, you can't curse. You can't keep on cursing all morning. That's why we don't pick up for you. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

My daddy was a sailor. I'm sorry. All right, Christy. Well, yeah, let it out. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My daddy was a sailor. I'm sorry. Alright, Christy. Well, yeah, let it out. Well, I'm an artist from Dayton, Ohio. I go by Christy Amaguchi. And all I wanted was just,

you know, an opinion. I want an opinion from God damn it. I'm sorry. I want an opinion from Charlamagne, and I want an opinion from DJ Indie. I want y'all to check my music out. Get me out the basement SoundCloud rapper category, man. Come on up with this now. Rap right now, then. Go ahead. I'm glad I don't have to give an opinion.

Hey, Angela, girl. I love you too, girl. Go ahead. Rap. Rap right now? Okay, but my music is a little vergy. We'll bleep you out the curses. Go ahead. Okay. If you look at my purge,'re going to think that I purged. My n****s don't fix it. Pull up on the curb, hit a lick and we swerve.

No, we get to them bitches. The first to go get it. All I do is work. I don't put no man before the business. Some n****s get married. Some n****s get richer. I've been leaning more towards getting richer. I'm just trying to turn my neck to December.

I'm just trying to get prepared for the win. If it gets low for me, then it gets low for you. We can't eat no more sardines for you. We can't eat no more sardines for dinner. We can't ride no more breadpastas. I grabbed out my b**** and told them,

let's get it. Got a lot of real n****s behind me. Leave it to me to put on for my city. Okay. Now, I'm going to be honest. You sound all right.

I mean, you don't sound like nothing I've never heard before, though. You know what I'm saying? That right there made me want to check out a song or two just to see what you're talking about.

Yeah, I got to hear you on the beat now. That wasn't bad. You wasn't whack. See, look,'re talking about. Yeah, I got to hear you on the beat now. That wasn't bad. You wasn't whack. See, look, I'm nervous. See, I'm so scared that Charlamagne is going to say something mean to me. You got my voice shaking. You got my nerves up, you know, because I practiced this in my head.

I didn't plan on getting through. Well, that's good. That's how I want people to be when they're around me, to be honest with you. Well, thank you for calling. Secondly, I'm going to check it out. What do you got? SoundCloud? SoundCloud is Christy Yamaguchi, C-H-R-I-S-S-Y-Y-A-M-A-G-U-C. Why don't you tag us? We're boycotting Gucci.

You stupid. Tag us, right? Just tag us on social media, okay? I will. Thank y'all. Good luck. Alright, Christy Yamaguchi. Alright. Is Yamaguchi the same as regular Gucci? I don't know. Get it off your chest. Keep it locked. This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ

Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes. Jay Williams. It's good to be back. Good to be back. Welcome back. You're probably super high off life right now after watching Duke have that marvelous comeback. Oh, it was a good one. It was a good one.

I like seeing other teams cry. It's pretty funny. Let's talk about the show. The business of sports. And I see all y'all businesses all the time. I know about you on real estate. I know about you and your juice bars. I see what you do, obviously.

We share somebody together in Karen Kinney. So, I mean, it's really about how you evolve your own business. And now I think it's actually somewhat culturally relevant to be business savvy where that hasn't always been the case. That's a fad, man. That's not always been the case. We've been so busy being consumers for so long. That was just all this emphasis on ownership and entrepreneurship. I'll tell you, man, when I first came out of college, I got a chance to start reading a book that really changed my life.

It was called Powernomics by Claude Anderson, right? Yes, great book. None of you guys have heard about it. And it's so incredible where it talks about, hey, you know, right after Jim Crow, when everybody felt like they were doing African Americans such a service by desegregating socially. But that was just one of the symptoms. That wasn't the cause of the issue, right? And how it should have been about the redistribution of wealth and power, because the reality is that that was always maintained by caucasian people for a very long time so it's not until right now that we have certain african americans that are in that rarefied air and there's so many times where you

know for me going to a school like duke and playing this game i'm the only black person early minority in the room in the room and i have to be comfortable in my own skin but then when i go back to my home i was being called an Uncle Tom or a sellout because I was trying to play in that world and trying to establish myself business-wise. And now I think it's cool to be smart. It's cool to be savvy. It's cool to understand how your business works in and out.

And it's cool to not let people be culture vultures and extract from our culture. And it is important when we become successful that we do things in the areas where we're from to help build up those areas also like to own businesses instead of letting other people come in and own those businesses. It's scary. And watching what Katie and Rich Climate have done is pretty, it's pretty special because, you know, they've made so many investments. They invested in Postmates,

which obviously just raised another 150 million and got, you know, evaluated over a couple of billion dollars. At the same time, like this is not a show where we're trying to sit here and pound on our chest and tell you all the different strategies you need to, you know, insert into your business. Like this is a show where we're all learning together.

Right. Right. So Katie's in the room listening to a Steve Ballmer. Like how many times you get a chance to, and it's about access too though, man. Right.

We listened to a story from Steve Ballmer. We're like, well, how'd you get started? He's like, well, I just happened to be next to Bill Gates at the right time. What?

Like, so now you're telling me, granted, you have to have a certain intellect to continue to leverage your brand and build it, but it's about access and it's about being around the right kind of people. You could have pulled up at Bill Gates at a hamburger stand. We saw Bill Gates at a hamburger stand. That whole conversation with Steve just turned into him owning the Clippers and how they're moving to Inglewood and how they're going into tax abatements and how they're building out retail around it. You're like, oh, this is like, you're looking at this as a multi-billion dollar business. And how many minorities do we have as far as team ownerships, even from a woman's perspective, like Clara Sy, who is a minority owner of the Brooklyn Nets, like is out here putting in work

and she's from China and what she's doing with justice reform, what they're doing with the Nets, like is out here putting in work and she's from China and what she's doing with justice reform, what they're doing with the Nets, what they did with the Liberty and buying the Liberty. I mean, we need to talk about more of that. So that becomes the norm. And we hear other young people of minority or different ethnic backgrounds that understand that they can achieve that same thing. That's the truth. You know, the one problem that we always have is we always feel like, well, we give excuses

too much. Oh, I don't have any money. I can't start. Oh, well, they got this or I couldn't do that. And that's my problem with our people sometimes is sometimes we don't want to put in the work. We sabotage ourselves all the time. We tuck ourselves out of it. Exactly.

Well, I can't do this. I don't have the resources. Like, my thing is, it's almost like my accident. I used to say why all the time and it became why not me? Like, yeah, I can do it. I mean, Robert Johnson started BET with a $15,000 loan. Like you can go to friends and scrape up money if you have the right kind of strategy in place and you surround it with the right people. But it's also about allowing our young people to have access to the right people.

So, you know, and look, I'll own it. I think sometimes when you try to climb the ladder, you're so busy climbing, you're so busy trying to achieve that you forget to pass it forward. And now I think watching what LeBron's doing, watching what KD is doing, it's about, like, hey, let's rise up together. Let's share this and let's help other people. All right, we have more with Jay Williams when we come back. So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.

There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black

powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys.

I'm Kate Max. or wherever you get your podcasts. is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join us each week for our show Civic Cipher. That's right. We're going to discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people to hopefully create better allies. Think of it as a black show for non-black people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence,

and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. Exactly. Whether you're black, Asian, white, Latinx, indigenous, LGBTQIA+, you name it. If you stand with us, then we stand with you. Let's discuss the stories and conduct the interviews that will help us create a more empathetic, accountable, and equitable America. You are all our brothers and sisters, and we're inviting you to join us for Civic Cipher each and every Saturday with myself, Ramses Jha, Q Ward, and some of the greatest minds in America. Listen to Civic Cipher every Saturday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. with players, it's not just how great you are on the court. It's also more of a lifestyle thing, too. It is.

And also even understanding the sneaker business, right? And I think it's something that culturally we're into sneakers. Like, just take it another level for all the kids out there. Understand, like, hey, Foot Locker just invested $150 million into GOAT, right? It's a secondary marketing tool for sneakers, secondary market for sneakers, right? And it's close to a $2 billion industry. So if you have some pairs of dope kicks, like put them on a StockX, put them on a GOAT, like sell them.

You can make three multiple off what you pay for because people love the culture of sports. I mean, look, I found this out about ESPN a couple years ago. Like seven years ago, we used to play heavy metal music going to break off NBA games right now we're playing hip hop going to breaks like hip hop has become like pop music to everybody now it is pop culture right so if you have that culture if you understand you know the strength of it take advantage of it and just it comes with just doing research and doing your due diligence how did you and KD get a business relationship I met Rich Kleiman man back in 2001 from a party I went to with Scooter Braun. Literally, we were just hanging out with Method

Man, and next thing I know, I'm meeting Rich, and we talk a little bit. And then Scott had connected us maybe about a year ago, and we just started talking about what we do in our lives. And he was like, hey, I got this idea that I want to do with KD. We want to find a way to create a platform where we

can bring all of our friends, you know, bring you guys on board, talk about what you're doing and have conversations about how people got started, like create a forum where people are talking about their struggles and how they started their business, you know, where they see future markets in their potential industries and really just work together and collaborate and just create content. I mean, everybody's in this content wild, wild West space anyway. So we can be informative with the content that we create with people that are able to move the needle from a culture perspective.

That's still ****. Now we see these guys like LeBron, we see KD. Are they anomalies or are athletes really getting smarter when it comes to business? I think athletes are really getting smarter coming to business. Obviously, you got those people that are in the rarefied air. But, I mean, look at the TV rights deals that are happening right now with sports.

It was in the double digit billion dollars that you're getting these rights to sports. So you have athletes that are making more money than ever right now. You have guys that are marginal players, right? Guys who are scoring 11, 12 points who are signing four-year, $75

million deals. Wow. Envy really makes me want to come back for a 10-day contract. It's just out there. So I think that the money is getting so high, Maine, that's getting to this point where it's like, all right, great. You just made $70 million off of four years. After taxes, say that's $35 million.

How are you investing that money? What kind of things are you doing with that money so you can create that long, sustained wealth that we all want, we all talk about doing, but then when you see our habits, our habits are conducive to doing that. Yeah. Because we spending money on frivolous stuff. But you know what I realize with a lot of players,

and not just NBA, NFL, they honestly don't know. And a lot of times the people around them just try to, I wouldn't even say fake, they don't know either, but they just try to invest in things that they don't know. And a lot of times the people around them just try to, I wouldn't even say fake. They don't know either, but they just try to invest in things that they don't know. And the bronze up the money all the time. And that's what we're doing. We're helping a lot of players that necessarily don't know what they're doing and helping them invest in properties and invest in things that they'll make money for a long time down the road. Cause a lot of them just don't know. And let me tell you how this happens though. So, so I would see some of my other

friends get drafted, and I would also know that there's such a business behind the business of what they get drafted. So the agents are paying money to different family members or, you know, different accountants or social advisors, whatever it may be, financial advisors, excuse me, are paying money, and everybody's trying to get to the kids. So, you know, as a kid, all of a sudden, now that you're about to make all this money and all these people come out of nowhere, you don't know who the hell to trust.

So who do you trust? You trust some of your family members. You're looking at your family members, no clue. And by the way, their hands are in your pocket because if they bring you to the table for an agent or for a financial advisor, they're getting a percentage of your deals, right? So then all of a sudden,

you're making those kinds of decisions. That's the foundation of how you're looking at your business. Like we need people to start reaching out and be like, yo know, it's not about I don't trust my family. You can still trust your family, but you don't know what you don't know. With me, I got so many artists and athletes that call me all the time, especially about real estate, and they want to learn. And the first thing I always tell them, if you want to learn, I want you to come with me. And the reason I say that is because I want you to see it for yourself. A lot of people just invest and they don't know what they're investing. But a lot of people don't have that innate ability to want with me. And the reason I say that is because I want you to see it for yourself. A lot of people just invest and they don't know what they're investing in. But a lot of people

don't have that innate ability to want to work. So my thing is, if that is the case for you, then be smart enough to carefully invest your time in the people that you think love to work too.

And the more you can honestly say no to, you can't be afraid to fire people. If somebody ain't carrying their weight, like, yo, I love you, but this is business.

I let you go. I think the most important thing that everybody in this room is doing is dispensing the information. Because a lot of times we say that our people don't want to work, but they really just don't have the information. They don't even know where to work. You know what I mean? So, like, what you're doing with your show, whatever you're doing with real estate, we're giving them the information. And that's what it's about, man. It's, you know, this show for me is such a bigger thing.

When I go and when I talk to kids, and this is only from my personal experience, but, you know, growing up and growing up a predominantly African-American and Latin neighborhood and then going to school in a predominantly white school, like every time I would go to school wearing my kicks or wearing my pants down a little bit, I got called being ghetto. I got called being black. And then when I went back home and I started talking about things that happened politically or things that I learned in chemistry class, I was called an Uncle Tom. I was called being a sellout. So when I go on the streets and I work with some of these kids, I want them to have informed conversations with me. I want this to be the new norm. I want you to be smart and not be called an Uncle Tom or a sellout. That's the only way

that we're going to change it from a foundational perspective so we can start being in that rarefied air and start having these conversations and start owning our own s***. Well, we appreciate you for joining us, man. Much love and respect, man. It already came out. It came out Monday.

The first two are behind the paywall for ESPN on ESPN+. Everything's going direct to consumer now anyway. So $4.99 per month, which is great. How many episodes are there? There are six episodes in total, but the first two came out. We did another one with Bron and Matt, which will be pretty cool,

that'll air around when those two teams meet up. But that'll be a fascinating one to watch. Now, question. You talked about sneakers. What's the most you spent on a pair of sneakers? Free 99. He got on Gucci sneakers right now. No.

No, I'm kidding. I had to look down to make sure they weren't Gucci. I was like, uh... Anne's got me in that one, though. $3.99, man. I just barter deals. All right. Well, it's Jay Williams.

Respect. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

We got some special guests in the building, the cast of Black Ink Crew, Chicago, Ryan Henry, and Don Brumfield. What's going on? Good morning. First and foremost, Don, congratulations to you for becoming a member of the faithful

black male community. Faithful black male community. It was a long time coming. You put that whole jersey in the rafters. What made you want to evolve, sir? I mean, honestly, man, you start growing, man man you just start realizing the headaches that you create for yourself and then you start noticing the energy of people like

exuding from you man like honestly early like i wasn't expecting to ever be on tv you know i was expecting to wake up and catch myself a little popular you know a little famous you know what i mean so honestly that it was a quick little transition you know what i'm saying i had to just learn. I was kind of killing myself. I was draining myself and giving myself some negative headaches. And when you look up, man, you got beautiful children and family. You just kind of realize, like, you know, you even draining them with, you know, ignorant movements and, you know, being young and silly, man.

I love to see y'all walk through it, too. Like, to work through everything, you know, because she did stay with you. And there were times you thought it wasn't going to work out, and she thought it wasn't going to work through everything. You know, because she did stay with you and there were times you thought it wasn't going to work out and she thought it wasn't going to work out. But it's nice when she stays and she sees the work that you're putting in. You didn't even go to Vegas. And I think part of that was, of course you have family obligations, your son's birthday, but the

other part of it was, you don't even want to put yourself in a situation. I didn't even want to be in them shoes. Especially with these cameras. It's like, nah. You don't want to be banned. shoes, especially with these cameras. It's like, nah. You don't want to be banned. Nah, that was, he was wilding. He was wilding. I was like, nah, I'm good on that, though.

And just honestly, for me, honestly, ever since the little Snapchat situation, I've been chilling. Since that stuff happened. How long has that been? It's been over a year. Okay, see, I've been faithful for two years and four months. I cut off all my side chicks two years, four months ago. And your life really does get better. And what you said is real.

You don't want to ruin your family, man. I saw my father ruin my family because of infidelity. So I didn't want to do that to my family. Well, Ryan's single, so he's out here. You still hoeing, Ryan? Still in your streets? No, man. I ain't single by choice.

I got dumped. Now. I was trying to get married. It ain't working. I had to take my brother on Valentine's dinner last night. You know what I'm saying? You don't think you could possibly. You don't ever think about the lonely men on Valentine's Day.

Man, they do, man. You don't think you could possibly work that out? I don't know. Probably. I'm not against it. You know, I ain't dating. Like I said, I ain't hoeing. Right.

You know, so I was on the path to get married. I just had some, you know, bumps in the road in my relationship so what happened you know you know how it is when y'all just such stuff y'all just can't forgive um so so you did some dirt and she can't get over it yeah you know what it was it was it's like with the level of being on television like when it the woman is it is embarrassed more you know put her in a position to be more embarrassed than the average person. I'm nationally embarrassed. Yeah, I ain't even f***ing this girl. It's just that for it to be, like I said, when you allow for somebody else to be on the level of your woman,

that means in the level of respect, then that's worse than anything else that you could do. I've prided myself on never letting no other chick ever come to the level of that. And then, like I say, on TV, jump out the boat and sell a story on your ass. You know, so it's like that level of embarrassment

is just, it is kind of unforgivable. You got everybody, she got everybody in her mention. You know what I mean? And it don't stop. Shade room, ball alert.

You know, it don't stop. I'm surprised y'all didn't step in and say something to Van because on this season. Oh, I did. So just because I know you might not 100% know what happened, but Van has an apprentice that he ended up cheating on his girlfriend with his long-term girlfriend.

And I'm feeling like y'all went through these things. So why not be like, dude, not the move. There's some deleted scenes on VH1 that show me call him stupid about 100 times. And then I actually told her, like, man, get the fuck away from him. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this man got a girl. And she was ultimately disrespectful. She told his girlfriend that she slept with him the night of her dad's funeral.

Yikes. She could have left that little detail. Yeah, that was just, at that point, man, that's what I was talking about them people. Not on TV She wouldn't leave me Troy you're right They want that fame They need that 15 minutes

Yeah And that's what we had to realize Like people You know for them 15 minutes bro They'll do whatever Go to the limits Full extent I don't want to breeze past

The fact that Ryan Is out here Being his brother's keeper So much to the point That he told the other woman Get away from my man Devil be gone. That's what we gotta do

as men to protect ourselves and our peoples, man. Because it's like, I mean, like I said, I'm already at a loss. I'm not way out there in Vegas. Like, I ain't out with my girl. Your girl out here. And she on her way to the damn party. And this broad, they was in the jacuzzi. She hopped in the jacuzzi

with him trying to, you know. That's crazy. She was throwing it on him and shit. And I'm just like, man, like, stay the fuck over there. Now, 9Mag might be the only place where you could fight at work and not get fired. What would have said a black ink crew? I resent that only because, you know what I mean? Like, you know how, like I said, I've known you for longer. You know how I feel about my business and, you know, about my brand.

And for what it's become on a television show has just been some, you know what I said, I've known you for longer. You know how I feel about my business and, you know, about my brand. And for what it's become on a television show, it's just been some, you know what I mean, some garbage to be able to say that. You know what I mean? People walked in my shop from what they see on TV and be like, hey, man, where the drinks at? And it's like, this is a business. Right.

And I'm there conducting every day. So what's exuded on the show, you know what I mean, is not what's really going on for me, you know what I mean, in the light. So that's why I opened a new shop, which you'll be seeing coming soon. It's a separation

between, you know, what was done there before and what can go on now. Don't you control the perceptions on TV, though? Yeah, I control what I can do, but, you know what I mean,

what everybody else is doing, what they filming, you know what I mean, like I said, people will do whatever to be on that camera, you know what I mean, when I said, people will do whatever to be on that camera. You know what I mean? When it's time to fight or when it's time to turn up

or what she thinks she got to do to secure her spot for another season, you know what I mean, which is literally like that. And they don't understand that, like, just because these cameras that we're recording for thousands of hours, you get 10 minutes of that. 10 minutes, you're right. And the attention span of the people is even shorter, you know? So what you just did to diminish yourself and my business in the same sense is worth more than what you're trying to show, you know? So what you just did to diminish yourself and my business in the same sense is worth more than what you're trying to show, you know?

And they put it out there, and it's like, you know, when it's edited for television, you know, people, that's what cuts to commercials. That's the stuff that make people tune back in, but, you know, it's tarnishing my brand. Gotcha. Because never forget, Ryan is one of the best tattoo artists. When I first met him, he was known for doing tattoos.

And in Chicago. And I was like, I don't have any tattoos. I was like, if I ever got a tattoo, I would let Ryan do it. If I ever got one. Because he's like always been known for that. And when you first got on, I was like. Don't act a fool. I did.

I hit him. When I saw him doing it in Chicago, I said, I hit him. I said, Ryan, please don't be acting crazy on TV. And it's got to be weird, too, because a lot of confrontations and stuff probably happen only because the camera's rolling. Absolutely. You don't know what's real and what's not real. People be turning up. People get lost in it, man. It's disgusting, man. Now, is it good for business

in the sense of more tattoo artists want to come apply just because they may want to be on TV? I don't know. Well, I mean, most definitely. Tattooing is a visual business. Right now, in the climate of social media, you know what I mean, it's probably the best way to be promoted and, you know, network. So to be able to have an entertainment television show shows a little bit of the bulls**t.

But what I can get through that is, you know, some of the messages about how we really, some Southside dudes from Chicago who conduct business and we understand the streets. And, you know what I mean, there's more that can be done. All right, we got more with the cast of Black Ink Crew Chicago. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We have the cast of Black Ink Crew Chicago here, Ryan Henry and Don here. Yee. What I do love about Black Ink Chicago is y'all touch on some really real life issues. So we see the issues that Four is going through.

And he's talking about, and I actually cried when I was watching the episode. I felt so bad of him struggling with his depression and not wanting to be here and having these suicidal thoughts. And then he went missing. So how is he doing now? And how did he feel when he watched that episode? My brother, well, most of us to the point, we barely watched the show and stuff. Damn.

You don't have no parties or nothing? No, it's like, no, we do. Sometimes you don't want to relive certain moments. Certain moments be too hard for you to go back and watch. That was the first episode we actually watched together. It was at my shop. We was watching it, me and Don. You know what I mean?

It was tough watching because it showed it in the real light. You know what I mean? It showed somebody that we love being weak and what they would, you know, what people would think is weak,

you know, even that time we talked to 4 right afterward and he hadn't seen it, but he thought at that point, you know what I mean, it was a vulnerable state for him where he was

being viewed as weak, but the response of the world was that it was some strength for most people, you know what I mean? In our community or even as black men, some people will act like the depression is just

the norm, you know what I mean? You should deal with it. Like, especially in Chicago, it's like the things that you deal with, it's like, man, Utah, you get over that. You know what I mean? As opposed to being diagnosed or being addressed or even, like I said, he allowed for so many lanes of people reaching out to be like, man, I'm dealing with it too, you know, by the millions to be able to say, oh, I finally could speak on it because I see you on television man, I'm dealing with it too. By the millions to be able to say,

oh, I finally can speak on it because I see you on television but you're dealing with something real. Oh, I'm dealing with it. I've been dealing with that. But we're in this era where mental health is being spoken about in our communities. It's never been like this. Yeah, not never. People sending in videos like, hey man, I was about to go today. Like, you literally saved a life

that day. And if we can do one, you know what I mean? Then that's what the purpose is for. And, Dom, even with your family, you talk about the history in your own family. It's just tough because, you know, after we had lost my little sister a couple years ago to suicide, Ryan and I, like, I just, I'm real, I'm always trying to be an advocate about mental health,

whether it's depression, whether it's, you know, people who suffer from anxiety, people who suffer from, like, you know. PTSD, trauma from things that happened to you when you was young. Everything, man. I think people want to look at where a person at, and they never can really see the wounds underneath. And so, you know, me and Ryan have been those people that's like, me, I'll stay up until 5 in the morning on the phone with 4,

or Ryan do the same thing because I'd rather speak to you all night and you convince me all day for you to be here. I tell people all the time, I'd give up all of this to hear my sister's voice again, be able to talk to her on the phone again. You know, that's more important. So for my brother to have the strength

to be vulnerable, to let everybody know I'm dealing with this, it allowed for everybody to come together to support him, which is what he needed. And I'm just glad that my brother had the strength to come forward with it because now it allows us to put in help and support in places what he needed. And I'm just glad that my brother had the strength to come forward with it because now it allows us to put

in help and support in places that he needed. You know, he's fine with being open and saying he needs to go talk to somebody a little bit more often. He's cool with calling us and saying, y'all, I'm lonely today, man. What y'all on? I want to chill. I want to hang out. I want to come over and see my nieces and nephews. Like, I love that he's doing that now because it allowed us to be that

support system for him. Yeah, and that conversation gonna change the generation because back in the day, you called somebody and said something like that, man, you act like a little bitch. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? That's whack.

You know what I mean? Brothers need people to talk to, too. You know what I mean? We need to open up and be vulnerable with each other, tell each other what we're going through on a daily basis.

You know? What about you guys? Does that make you reflect on because, Ryan, you've been through a lot yourself. You know, Don, you've been through a lot. Does that make you guys reflect and say, well, maybe I need to even seek some help or somebody that I could talk to professionally, just because there is a lot of things I'm sure that you haven't completely dealt with?

Absolutely. You know, like I said, I mean, a lot of the things that I spoke to Four on when, during the episode and even during, you know, in real life. It's just the fact that like, hey, man, I know what it feels like to be in that position. I shared a story with him, you know, about a situation I had been in that, you know, that I recognize now was the position that he was in. You know, you can have all these people around you and, you know, even me and his brother, we felt like, hey, man, I've been here with you. But even having that support of somebody right next to you, you can still feel alone at whatever point.

And I had felt that before. I know what it was like to feel that way all the way down, you know, when you're at rock bottom and I think I was in my shop, you know what I mean, feeling that same way. And they was outside kicking it, you know what I mean? But it's like, hey, I ain't had nobody talk to me. You know what I mean? And I understood that when I've been there with him every step of

the way and he's still able to feel that way. You know, it's funny with mental health too, like it gotta be triple for y'all because, you able to feel that way. You know, it's funny with mental health, too. Like, it got to be triple for y'all, because, you know, not only you got social media that's affecting everybody's mental health, y'all on reality television. So y'all opening up the opinions of other people every time an episode is.

How do y'all keep y'all mental health intact with that? I told him, like, at one point, like, he seemed like I had to get back into the gym heavy just for meditation for myself, and then I even go to a wellness coach. And to be honest with you, I know that y'all watch the show, but we don't have to take breaks. Sometimes it does get tough.

The media, your family going through it. My wife, she was gone for six months with my baby. And that was the realest time of my life. I just took a break from the show. It was hard. And Ryan had to do the same thing at one point. You got to have that outlet. I literally wasn't on the show for

a while last year. If I didn't reset, I'd have been done. That new level of being attacked is something crazy. People will think that just because you're at a certain level, you can't be this. That's why I heard even more when it's your own people

that was actually coming at you too because they did the whole Ryan Henry campaign. Absolutely. They did an F Ryan Henry campaign? When I left my shop and, you know what I mean, the people that were still there, they took it over. And, you know, it was just a whole, you know, F Ryan Henry, this, that, and the other. And it's just like, even like I said, now you'll see moving forward as things have changed. Like I said, I ain't forget shit.

But you know, jealousy, that's all that is. Yeah, I mean, it comes from that. It comes from, you know what I'm saying, being with people who you've worked with that are hurt. You know what I mean? They was hurt. I was hurt. You know what I mean? So I just, I knew at that point I had to retract because while they was saying fuck me, I couldn't say fuck them back.

You know what I mean? Because when it was time to move forward, you know what I mean? I didn't want to have nothing to apologize for, but they was just going off the deep end. So, you know, you got to take that in stride. Now, is Charmaine going to still be a celebrity concierge for you guys? I don't see one person she is, but that's a celebrity concierge. She planned a trip to Vegas.

And look how it went. Oh, no. That's a no you know I don't think having a you know a fight at a convention and you know I mean a mental awareness situation on your hands is you know a plus for you in that job so

what about the word bitch cause on the last episode this fight broke out because of the side bitch comment that was made is calling another guy or using the word bitch because on the last episode this fight broke out because of the side comment that was made is calling another guy or using the word bitch to another guy is that grounds to start a fight is that the ultimate disrespect if you if i call you i'm trying to do something right like it's people who do that i don't play with the word like that i don't play with it with my friends you know i mean like my daddy can't call me no like i don't i don't play with that word it's not even to be played why would i disrespect you in that sense?

I could have thought of something else. Right. You know, so. That's how I feel about sucking my n****. Yeah. It's definitely tough like that.

It's just super. And people play like that. It's just like, I don't play like that. So, you know what I mean? When people saw my homie Junior call him a b****,

he know why he said that. You know what I mean? And if he ran up on Junior after that, like, Junior had to be prepared for that s***, which he was. Man, my boy, he knew why he said that you know I mean and if he ran up on junior after that like Junior had to be prepared for that which he was My boy he knew I Knew I said it

At that point was a rough it's it was it was a lot going on that He was digging yeah a lot that like in that second wife's day and I get it first time on TV in the room full Of guys you won't want to see my hip. Yeah, he was acting very, like, it was being too... But I think, like, I tell people all the time, like, man, real to recognize real. You walk into a room, be yourself. You know what I'm saying? Be mature.

People are going to gravitate to you. They can tell if you're goofy or not. Just be yourself. And I'm telling you, man, social media is making everybody socially awkward because they're so used to talking to people like that on social media, and they don't know how to interact

with people in person. You're really sending out a tweet. You know what I mean? Like you're in a room where somebody **** ass ****. What?

You ain't on your computer right now, bro. We face to face, bro. Like, man, you know, every action got a reaction, man. That's what that was.

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We have the cast of Black Ink Crew Chicago here, Ryan Henry and Don Hedges. Now, Ryan, people were excited that you had your shirt on. To fight on this last episode. Bossip did a whole article about it. Yeah, yeah. I seen it yesterday. I posted about it. I preached. So that's what I was telling them. I'm like, um... So just being in my position, like I said, you know,

with me, how I am, I'm a provider and I'm a protector, you know, especially when it comes to women. There were women in the shop. And regardless of what they went over there to say to him, his mouth was already bleeding and he spit blood on her face. So when he did that, like, man, you know, my sister had been killed by a bitch ass nigga. Like, you know what I mean? At that point of a woman being in harm, I was just that red.

You know what I mean? So for some reason, I thought, all right, it's blood. Let me not get it on my white sweater as if my skin was better to get it on. So, you know, that's why you took a shirt off and you want to get blood on your sweater. He's like,

he's getting his blood on his sweater. Because you look, after you fight, after you fight, and then it's blood all on your, you look crazy. You know what I mean? Especially if you got a white tee on.

So, yeah, that's what, I don't know why. I was just like, let me take this off. And then, we had been in the gym like crazy

for those couple months. You didn't watch any episode of us. Anything we do, like women getting touched, there's spaces where we don't play. Point blank period. We were getting some backlash from people like, oh, man, y'all jumped him, y'all this. It's like, when he first ran up on Junior,

that was a one-on-one. We were sitting there laughing. When you spit this blood on these women's face, everybody in here can fuck you up. That's right. All systems go when f*** you up. That's right. I mean, all systems go when the women are involved. That's right.

I mean, if I'm messing with you and I put my hands on you, if your father, your brother, and your uncle come to f*** me up, they not wrong. Right.

You know what I mean? You gotta take that out. I'll do it all over again. I swear to God. Disrespect another woman. I told him, I talked to him and I told him like,

hey man, I didn't want that harm to come to you, you know what I mean? Like, I'm sorry that it had to happen to you, but you knew you was in the wrong. Right.

Is he understanding? Yeah, he was understanding of it. He knew what it was. Do you feel like the crew is stronger now? I think. Yeah, you know what? For the basis of the people who originally started, we are, you know what I mean?

But, I mean, it's other entities that's included into that. You know what I mean? People have come into the show. They've been staying. And, you know, they cause riffraff. You know, so as a whole unit for the cast,

it's not as strong. Egos are involved now. You know what I mean? People are five seasons in on the number one successful show. They feel a way. You know what I mean?

So some people can't be talked to. Some people can't be told nothing. Some people feel like, man, you know, that superstar is crazy. At that point, it's like, all right, let me just stick back with my originals,

you know what I mean, and then we'll see what else happens with everybody else, if you can last. I mean, one thing is this, like, if you've seen even in that episode, one thing is this, like, man, we're going to ride for each other regardless. Whatever the situation, we're going to always have each other back. We're coming together and learning the process, and I think, you I think I'm proud of my brother Ryan

for doing his research on what we need to do to be fully successful while having this experience and then after. The whole point is learning the longevity of utilizing this platform so that we all are able to look back on it and say, at least we didn't go through all that bulls**t and nothing came out of it at the end.

Right. You just opened up another shop. Yeah, I just opened a new shop actually on the 5th of January. You know, and it's separate from the show. You know what I mean? Like, it's all in my hands. You know what I mean? We got more shops coming.

You know, me and Don are working on some other things. You know what I mean? Just going into so many different lanes of investment. I like taking my kids to school in the morning, going to work for a little bit, and then being with them once I pick them up for the rest of the things. You know what I mean? Just going into so many different lanes of investment. I like taking my kids to school in the morning, going to work for a little bit, and then being with them once I pick them up for the rest of the day. Damn right. That's the life. Greatest feeling. Greatest feeling. Well, salute to you,

Ryan and Don, man. I love what y'all stand for, man. Thank you. Don, no more naked videos or nothing? Nah, man. I'm cool, man. I don't need it. I'm good. Like, I swear, like, it just take a moment, man. It's like, it hits I'm good. Like, I swear, like, it just take a moment, man. It's like it hits you like a light bulb, but sometimes it take the worst things in life to happen for you to realize,

like, you just got to change, or you just going to be in, like, a downward spiral. I'm just to that place where I have to protect my family. That's the first thing. I am a husband, father, son, you know, a brother. In order to protect my people, I got to be on point at all times. That's dope. That's a nice learning experience.

And don't relapse, man. Stay as part of the faithful black male community. I enjoy arguing about who picking up the kids today, bro. Or who got braces. Who got, you know, who cooking tonight. That's cool. You know, I'm cool with them arguments, man. All that other stuff for the birds.

And I know you feel responsible for your dad now, too. And it's nice for him to be in that loving environment with the family. Man, it's real because, like, my dad has always been, like, a strong man to me. Like, I was that kid who literally saw his dad as Superman. I love my dad, man. And for him to be going through what he's going through, through the losses we took, he lost his mother. First, he lost my uncle, Uncle Daryl,

and then my grandmother passed through grieving over losing her son. So for my dad to lose some of the most important people in his life, like back to back, it's just like he never just kind of bounced back from it. And he felt almost responsible. And sometimes that's how people are. We feel responsible for our people, and it take a long time for us to heal from it. And that's just where my dad at.

He had a healing point, and I just want to see him be great and be around for his grandkids, teach them the things he's taught me, and be a part, you know, just be around. He loved these guys. He loved them. My daddy is, let's say, my daddy is like a life of a part of me. He'll come in, kick it, crack jokes. He's a great person.

And it's just tough. Like, I'm just glad my dad is able to admit to me, too, like, man, son, I'm going through it, and I need you. So I'm fine being there for him. I'm fine being there for anybody at this point in my life. So season six on the way? Immediately. Immediately.

We'll be done with five in about a few weeks. When does it come on? Wednesdays. Wednesdays. I know you're too busy, man. I'll be trying, man. You could binge watch on demand. I can't do it.

When you said season five, I'm like, yo, they about to be on season six? Yeah, man. You could binge watch on demand. I can't do it. When you said season five, I'm like, yo, they about to be on season six? Yeah, man. Like, God damn. Time flies, man. Brian got hair now? Braids up?

Yeah. Yeah, but Wednesday's VH1, what time? 9, 8 Central. 9, 8 Central. Right, and this season has been amazing, so I just want to say

congratulations to y'all. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. All right, it's Black Ink Crew, Chicago, Ryan Henry, and Don Broomfield. Thank you for coming, bro. No problem. Thank y'all. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. All right, it's Black Ink Crew Chicago, Ryan Henry and Don Broomfield. Thank you for coming, bro. No problem.

Thank y'all. Thank you, bro. We're going to start this thing over. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. If you want to slander The Breakfast Club, call us right now.

Hello, who's this? This is Miss Friday. Angela, we love y'all. Envy, I love you too. But Envy, I've got to let you know, from your social media, we all see how you've been getting money and we respect the hustle. But the Christmas pictures, they were a little taunting in reference to other people that are not out here getting it like you. I would have rather you showed us ways and different things other than flipping the houses on how to give back and take care of our families for the community. Also, Envy, you seem to be a little biased. Like, you're riding this Cardi B train, but you don't show Nikki no love. I love Nikki.

I love Cardi B, too. But I do. If you follow my Instagram, you see that I talk about my toys, my toy drive. I talk about the Thanksgiving drive that I do and the mentoring. And I also try to help people to learn how to make money, not just put money in their face. I do the real estate. I do a whole bunch of things. So if you would follow me and start looking at that, maybe you'll see other things as well.

It's the end of the breakfast club. I was waiting for that beige curve. I was waiting for that beige curve. She says she loves you. She says she loves you. But I knew the beige was going to come out. I knew it was coming. I'm trying to teach you. If you just listen. I'm trying to teach you. She says she loves you. But I knew the beige was going to come out. I knew it was coming. I'm trying to teach you.

If you just listen and just watch. Oh, man. I'm trying to teach you. I was waiting for the beige rage to make an appearance. It's not. It's not. It's not. That's funny to you?

It's hilarious. Daytria. Daytria is in the building representing Virginia. Good morning. Good Virginia. Good morning. Good morning. You want to slam the ye? You know, every time I hear yeast, I think ye. I think the yeast.

I hate the name. I can deal with Angela. She didn't make that name, mama. And by the way, you eat yeast every day. She has a yeast infection, ye. Be sensitive to her. Okay? Clearly she has a yeast infection.

Her name sounds itchy and I just hate it. I'll change my name to Angela Monistat. Angela Monistat. That left wall of hers is itching so crazy right now. You got to be sensitive to our callers. Andrew.

Hey, good morning. Who you want to slander, sir? DJ Envy, I got to slander you real quick. I got a problem with like how insecure you are. Awesome. Issa Rae. When Angela Yee goes on vacation, right, you do the rumor report. When Charlamagne goes on vacation, you let the community do don't the other day. But when you go on vacation, you still try to do that DJ Envy.

You should let me do a Yee Mix. People's choice. Why don't you let somebody else do the Yee Mix? Yeah, I've done the Yee Mix a couple of times. Huh? Issa Bage. He actually did it. He did the Yee Mix.

Andrew. Yeah. You're right. I'm insecure. I'm not going to let nobody come in and do my mix. Issa Bage. Matter of fact, I don't even want to give somebody that thought. I don't want anybody to think about that.

Roberto. What's up, DJ Envy even want to give somebody that thought. I don't want anybody to think about that. Roberto. What's up, DJ FD? What's going on? Roberto. What's happening? What's happening, Andy? I want to slander you today, DJ FD. We got to talk.

K, K. Listen, you say you deleted everything R. Kelly from your computer? Si, papi. So you deleted seven in the name of love? Yeah, Si. I believe I can fly. Si. Everything R. Kelly, because the songs are see. I believe I can fly. See. Everything R. Kelly.

Because the songs are negative. See, I cannot support him anymore. He's a pedophile. Please don't do that fake accent or I'm going to have to slam to you. Did you delete Maxwell Fortunate? No. R. Kelly wrote and produced that. Did you delete Life by KC and JoJo?

And you know, Emmy loves Maxwell. R. Kelly produced and wrote that too. You're not listening, Sammy Sosa. You're not listening. If you're going to delete R. Kelly, you have to. Kelly produced and wrote that, too. You're not listening, Sammy Sosa. You're not listening. If you're going to delete R. Kelly, you have to delete the whole laptop, my friend, because what have you played lately that's positive? What song in your laptop right now that you play that is positive? Kendrick Lamar.

Ooh, we got you now. Kendrick Lamar. What song right now? We got you now. I know a song. I can name a song he played that was positive. What song? Smile, bitch.

Smile, bitch. You need to smile. You're too angry. I'm going back and forth with you. I'm living my best life. Why y'all not let people slander us? He did. Make sure you tell them to watch out for Florida, man.

The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey. A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife. Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking a Flamingo. Put the breakfast club, bitchy.

Donkey of the Day with Charlemagne the guy. I don't know why y'all keep letting him get y'all like this. Well, Duval, they keep letting me get them like this because they keep doing things like this, all right? Donkey of the Day goes to a substitute teacher at a school in Sarasota, Florida, named Heather Carpenter. Now it's 2019 and nothing has changed when it comes to the Sunshine State. If you're new to The Breakfast Club, my name is Charlemagne Tha God,

a.k.a. Uncle Charla. And what does your Uncle Charla always tell you? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And this donkey of the day is just the first reminder of 2019. That's Florida going Florida. Now, Heather Carpenter, like I told you, is a substitute teacher. And for whatever reason, she had a dispute with the school's principal. Heather was allegedly upset that the school's principal was set to have a birthday party at a particular venue.

The venue in question was the pavilion in Urfa Park. Now, I don't know what Heather has against the principal or the principal's daughter, but Heather, a substitute teacher, decided to be a party pooper, literally. Let's go to Fox 13 for the report, please. All eight of these picnic tables here at Urfer Family Park had to be replaced after a woman spread human waste and fecal matter all over the wood as a form of payback. It was a mixture of urine and feces, and she had it in a big cup. The nasty vandalism cost the county more than $2,300 for cleanup, replacing tables and grills,

and reimbursing and rescheduling a birthday party set for the pavilion later that morning. It only took the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office a few days to track down and arrest Heather Carpenter. The 42-year-old is charged with felony criminal mischief. Turns out Carpenter is a substitute teacher at Philippi Shores Elementary School. According to arrest paperwork, Carpenter wasn't happy with how the principal handled a professional complaint she made at the end of November. The Sarasota woman admitted to investigators she smeared the feces with the goal of spoiling the birthday party planned at the park that day. The celebration was for the principal's daughter. Officials say Carpenter is no longer a substitute and can't volunteer at any district schools while this investigation is active. You think? Heather was with the sugar honey iced teas.

Okay. Now I have a homeboy who shall remain nameless who used to have a real problem beating people up. So he went to anger management as part of his probation for beating people up. So whenever he wanted to beat people up, instead he would resort to fighting with feces. What I mean by that is... Oh my gosh, wax is crazy. I didn't say him. What I mean by that is, if he had a beef with someone, he would cut your car seat open and put dingleberries in the cushions, or he might go in your house and put a couple chocolate delights in your sneakers.

That's disgusting. It is. I remember he had an issue with his next-door neighbor, and the next-door neighbor's roommate let him in the house. So my guy put butt truffles in the neighbor's couch cushions. What's a butt truffle? Turd. Never understood why the roommate was down with that

because he had to live there too. All right, the moral of the story is it's just some real live turd terrorists out here, and Heather Carpenter is clearly one of them. My thing is, Heather, you got beef with the principal. Why resort to attacking the kids? Because that's essentially what you were doing by spreading butt mud all over the picnic tables and grills at this park. None of the adults were going to be affected by these rusty nuggets. I mean, sure, you put some rectum warriors on the grill, so that means everybody's burger would end up getting fudge babies on them.

But why do that to the kids, okay? What is something else that your Uncle Sharla always tells you? Never go to war with someone who gives an F less than you. And clearly, Heather Carpenter don't give an F. Anyone can get it. Men, women, and children. If she got beef with you, then all of y'all getting butt beans. All right?

Everybody at this party going to get all the fanny fudge you can eat. Chocolate bananas for everybody simply because I got beef with one person. I'm telling you, don't go to war with somebody who gives a F less than you, especially a rectum warrior. Now, Heather has been charged with third degree felony mischief and property damage and there is no way she can be in population with other prisoners.

Because what if this terror terrorist decides to let a bunch of frightened turtles loose in a prison? Do you really want a corn massacre in one of these correctional facilities? Think about it, Florida. Please give Heather Carpenter the biggest ER. Question. What?

I don't want to hear your question. No, I got a question. So, for her to carry in your guys, your friends, you know, terror terrorists. So, does he poop on the floor and then pick it up? Never asked if it was human feces. It could have been dog feces. I don't know what kind of feces it was that he was using. I'm just curious.

Like, do you just poop? I don't know what kind of feces Heather was using. Okay. You know what I'm saying? We just assumed it was hers. I'm just assuming it's hers. Do you pick it up or do you go in the toilet? I'm just saying, if you got to go to a prison,

you know what I'm saying, and that's your weapon of choice, you always got some on deck. You always got some on deck. I always got some on deck. You right. I'm pretty regular. All right. Matter of fact,

8.30 this morning, if anybody, any terror terrorists need something, holler at me. I got it for the low. My goodness. Is it going to be mushy or hard? Let me see what I had.

Well, last night I had fish for dinner. This morning I had my regular protein shake. You should always look at your poo to figure out how well you're doing as far as your diet. I never look at my poo. You should. No, that's disgusting. You gotta make sure it looks normal. No, I'm fine. The color of it, the texture. Alright, guys.

The Breakfast Club. You're checking out the world's most dangerous morning show. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Michael Eric Dyson. Good brother, Michael Eric Dyson. Man, man, it's good to be up here with y'all. I see you got a nice little book in your hand. You just handed it to me, and now I'm so intrigued.

I want to start reading this now. I know, man. This thing is off the hook. Veronica Chambers is an extraordinary woman. She did that book, that edited book, Collection Essays on Michelle Obama that did so well last year. And then this new book, look, it's hot off the press. It ain't even out yet. It'll come out next month

called Queen Bee, a celebration of the power and creativity of Beyonce Knowles Carter. Beyonce. And I got an essay in there, all right, called The King of Pop

and the Queen of Everything. And my argument is that Beyonce snatched the crown from Michael Jackson. I saw him at his height. I don't know if y'all went to his concerts and saw him at his height, but I did. And he was extraordinary.

He was a genius. But what she's doing is on another level. I'm on record as saying I think that she's a better performer than Michael Jackson. But I didn't see Michael in concert, but I just compare Michael at the Super Bowl to Beyonce at the Super Bowl, Motown 25 to Big Chella. I just compare those type of things,

and I'm like, I just think she's better on stage. She absolutely is. I did see them at their height. Since you said that she took the crown from Michael Jackson, what do you think about all this Finding Neverland controversy with this documentary that HBO is going to show about Michael Jackson? Yeah, you know, it's tough, isn't it? Michael was a great icon, an extraordinary genius.

1958, Madonna, Prince, Michael Jackson. I mean, happens to be my year too, but I ain't putting myself in their league. Just extraordinary creativity was born in that year. And yet, we know that Michael had tremendous traumas. Did he have vitiligo? Certainly. In terms of his skin and melanin, but he also had self-hatred because his father deposited that in his subconscious. He didn't think he was very handsome, or he told him he was ugly, and he chided him, and then Michael

began to have spooky European ideals transplanted onto his face. Was he involved with children? That's what the documentary says. Those two guys when they were younger said it wasn't true. But we know what happens when you're younger and you're seduced and the hypnotic sway of fame and celebrity may preclude you from telling the truth or your parents got bought out

and then they sold you out. All of that is true. But think about it. Hanging out with kids like that at that age, it ain't it ain't it ain't something that we would recommend it's not something that we would do for our own kids it ain't and if it is normal it's pathological so the thing is we have to be open and honest it's hard to reckon with the flaws of our great heroes and all of us as human beings are flawed but we got to go where the evidence you know tracks us but that's important where the evidence tracks us because we're living in a me too

generation that is extremely important in terms of reckoning with the flaws especially of toxic masculinity of poisonous patriarchy and how men have had free uh if you will, free ways to do everything that we do that are often messed up and jacked up. At the same time, you can't just have an allegation and then your career is done. You can't just disappear after somebody said something. You know, the mantras out now believe women. And I understand what that means. That means that women have historically been not acknowledged, have been denied, have been delegitimated in a culture that refuses to acknowledge their humanity or that the words they say are true or to take at face value what they mean. I get that.

At the same time, you know, it doesn't mean that people haven't been in complicated situations where nuance is called for. Believe people who tell the truth, because whether man or woman, and we know that's very complicated. Believe black people. Yeah. Believe black people who tell the truth. Because whether man or woman, and we know that's very complicated. Believe black people, yeah? Believe black people who tell the truth. And when we have the state of evidence here now that you can merely make an allegation and somebody disappear, I think that's problematic. I don't think that's the best ideals of feminism. I think feminism at its height, and I know a lot of people think that's controversial. I don't think so at all. Feminism i think feminism at its height and i know a lot of people think that's controversial i don't think so at all feminism is about the recognition of women it's about putting forth the principle of emancipation for all human beings who happen to

be women and it's dealing with gender as the predicate for our social uh examination of issues that continue to be shunted to the periphery or denied legitimacy in our own lives and socially speaking. But at the same time, you can't use Me Too as an adjudication of competing claims about good dates or bad dates. It can't resolve horrible sex. It can't resolve the fact that it's complicated. I am 60 years old. I have never in my life asked a woman to have sex. Now, I know affirmative consent has developed because now we're living in an era where people have to say something explicitly, but there are other manifestations of consent rather than verbal. But I think we have gotten off the rails here by not grappling with

the nuanced, complicated ways in which sex and eroticism and romance get involved. So we've got to figure out a way to acknowledge the context of sex. If you want to be nuanced about anything in this country, it's got to be sex. But let's not pretend we ain't in the age we are now and that a different age prevailed not long ago. Do we have amnesty? Do we say, hey, rules used to be this way, not it unchanged up. Now we're retroactively going back and holding people accountable for, now don't get me wrong here, not for explicit sins, not for problems, not for

legally challengeable activities and behaviors that should be held to the highest account. But when we talk about nuance and interpretation, do you like it, do you not like it? No means no. Period. And yet, in the interaction between men and women, many people who turn people down 25

times are now married with three kids right that's the kind of reality of sex that we're not seeing taken uh in a serious fashion in a nuanced way in the broader public discourse about that i know we got off of that on the michael jackson thing but the the michael jackson thing to me is about nuance and complication and being willing to face up to the flaws of our iconic figures and at the same time seed their humanity and then figure out what to do from there. No, you said a lot. There's three things I want to say. Number one, I agree. I think you should listen to everybody.

Listen to all women, but believe all proof. Two, I think the Michael Jackson thing is unethical. Only because those guys did get on the stand and say, hey, nothing happened. And they said that all through their adulthood. Even the guy's mom said he never even said nothing happened to Michael. Third, yes, we're not acknowledging that culture has changed. We grew up in a totally different... The 80s and 90s

was totally different than now with language, with action, everything. Right. So I'm saying that you can't both assert the necessity of the agency of human beings, especially women, as agents of their own sexual desire, and then deny that agency when it comes time to talk about cul and that they will be supported. Because I still see when women say things, people don't believe them. They think that they're just trying to, you know, get some clout off of saying something. So it is a different time for women who, and think of all the women who still won't come forward. That's right.

Or still are too scared to do that. I think those numbers are far greater than somebody that will say something like, oh, I dated him and I had buyer's remorse the next day. What I'm trying to say, I agree with everything you just said. I'm not denying the legitimacy of women having the voice now to come forward. The reality is that we cannot resolve the infinite complexity of human relationality and the intimate relations of sex with a resort to a kind of all or nothing approach. And I think that's part of the problem.

We got more with Michael Eric Dyson. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Yep, we're back. It's The Breakfast Club. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We have Michael Eric Dyson in the building.

What do you think about this era's cancel culture mentality? I love young people. I ride with them. I write books about hip-hop. But canceling, that's some white supremacist notion to me. First of all, you can't cancel nobody. You ain't got no subscription to a magazine or a credit card. You ain't canceling nothing.

And if you want to cancel something, cancel Donald Trump. How idiotic is that? Because you can't cancel Trump. He's there politically. He's an existential and empirical fact that you can't dismiss because I'm done with you. Read the hand. Digital culture cannot deal with analog realities, it seems to me. And an analog reality here is there are persistent social facts and features of our existence that have to be dealt with.

I'm going to say that again. Digital culture can't handle analog facts sometimes. I mean, and that's what the deal is, right? Because here we are, we're canceling. There was some analog canceling going on, too. I mentioned Malcolm X, who was murdered by people who were intolerant of his viewpoint. Canceled him. Now, young people will tell me that's a metaphor.

But the metaphor to me is wrought. It's not only is it flawed, I think it's especially flawed because it borrows from the very logic we want to oppose. Right. White supremacy wants to cancel people out. Hang you, lynch you, castrate you, remove you, cancel. No. Argue. Put them in a in a in a in a moral box and say this is problematic. Let's resist them. But but the impulse to cancel to me is borrowed from the very people we want to resist. This cancel culture, you're canceled, you're done. I'm just tired of the intolerance that young people show, especially young black people, in trying to cancel each other. And then somebody

going to cancel your black ass. You trying to cancel somebody, then you're going to be the cancel-ee. And then what's going to happen then? The great Amanda Seale said, cancel culture is real, but redemption culture should be real as well. Well, it is real as well, but the cancel culture to me... You shouldn't even get canceled, is what he's saying. I'm just saying to cancel... But first of all, you can't cancel nobody.

What does that even mean? Like you can't cancel nobody. Right. You can't even cancel your bills. You can't even cancel the people living with you. What you should be saying is I will put you in a particular situation where I hold you accountable. I want to resist you. I think you're problematic.

You can't even cancel Donald Trump because I think the logic of canceling is derived from a white supremacist culture that believes that human beings are subject to our arbitrary will and caprice. And I think it's more deep than that. It's deeper than that. I think that's what makes people evolve, too. When you when you when you hold them accountable and you say, look, I'm going to hold you accountable. I want you to think about the things that you think about the things you said. Right. If that person really cares, I think that's what growth happens.

Of course, because otherwise, look, I think that's where growth happens. Of course, because otherwise, look, I'll tell you what cancel culture is. Young kids, second, third grade, getting kicked out. White folk canceling them every day, right? Canceling them, throwing them out of school. Wait a minute. Johnny messed up. Little Shaquille messed up.

Shaniqua messed up. But can they get some redemption? Little Johnny is getting, Little Sally is getting redemption. They ain't getting canceled. They're getting sent to not even probably to delinquents, you know, to delinquency or putting in a situation in a classroom where they are held separate from the other class. They are being talked to. They are being put in timeout. Negroes believe timeout means the time I knock you out for what you did wrong

and the time you wake up, that's timeout. So the reality is we've got to understand more complicated ways and approaches. Because, yeah, canceling somebody, to me, borrows from the logic of the very people that we hold as enemies or that are enemies to the process of development and evolution. So, yeah, we're canceling our young kids, and look at the result of that. What do you think about, you know, us canceling Super Bowl halftime and us canceling Gucci and Prada and Montclair? See, the Super Bowl halftime to me

is complicated. Let me tell you why. I think when Jay-Z refuses to go, that's huge. When Rihanna refuses to go, that's huge. And I think they should stand with their principles, and I stand with them, right? Jay-Z is a friend of mine. Love him, love his consciousness, love his commitment of mine. Love him. Love his consciousness. Love his commitment

of conscience to our cause. And refusing to participate was a huge statement. Travis Scott, not so much. Travis Scott doesn't do it. The next Negro up will stand in that place, right? So the thing is, or people want to cancel Gladys Knight. Gladys Knight is 74 years old.

Recognize her game. Recognize what she's meant to this culture. Midnight Train to Georgia. Go get Farrah Jasmine Griffin's book, Who Set You Flowing, to look at her examination of immigration narrative, black migration narratives, and how the music, in part, set the terms for our own self-understanding in that. The thing is, is that when you think about canceling Gladys Knight, she's, wait a minute, even if you think she made a mistake, I didn't agree with the statement she made about the anthem. I didn't agree with that, but I agree with the fact that Gladys Knight is such a huge figure who should be ceded legitimacy, right? Talking about believe women. What women do we believe? Do we believe Gladys Knight? Do we believe Candace Owens? She's a black woman too, right? So the thing got to we got to test the durability of their truth and the insight that they bring gladys knight is a 74 year old

black woman who was fought before some of these people were born she got the cachet she got the cachet she got the cash she got the you know she got the rigorous uh testimony to what she has been committed to so and plus atlanta is a black city with a black mayor right meek mill was there that weekend talking about criminal justice reform it's complicated there are multiple streams of resistance thurgood marshall was in the courts martin luther king jr was in the streets what happened to the inside outside everybody can't be the point guard somebody got to be the forward somebody got to be the center we got to have multiple streams of consciousness that man but when black people cancel i cancel you because I disagree with your style and your route.

I think that's problematic. It doesn't mean that there aren't black people who sell us out. There are many of them. Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, right? We can talk about that. But others would say, wait a minute, let's be more cautious about saying that. But I don't believe in canceling them. I don't believe in eradicating them.

I believe in engaging them. If we can talk to white supremacists across the table. Martin Luther King Jr. sat down and negotiated with white supremacists. You mean we can't do the same thing for our brothers and sisters? We have to cancel you out? So now you're telling me we can't disagree with each other while saying, I hate you,

I think you are so wrong. Look, I can disagree with you, I can think you're wrong, but I don't have to hate you, I don't have to cancel you. So I think when we look at the Super Bowl, that was a far more complicated affair than we made it to be. And look, look at what happened in the scene squabbles. So Colin Kaepernick, my man whom I love, and Eric Reid, my man whom I love, right? Eric Reid got into a fight rhetorically, ideologically with Malcolm Jennings. Malcolm Jennings is doing the work in Philadelphia. He's talking about criminal justice reform.

He's talking about cash bails. He's speaking about the ways in which the system of justice for black people is fundamentally flawed and using his resources, took the $100 million, right, that group of his players, fellow players, from the NFL to say we're going to leverage this in defense of our practices. How come they can't be both hands? They feel like he sold out, though. That's what I'm saying. They feel like Malcolm sold them out. But Malcolm,

this is my point about the cancel culture, about the sellout language, right? Martin King Jr. was called a sellout. Did he sell us out? That's true. Let me tell you, I think he didn't. But at the time, people thought that. Why can't we do both hands? Why can't we say, Malcolm do this, Martin do this, Fannie Lou Hamer do this, Ella Baker do this, we

all do it together. How come you can't do something, somebody else can't do something, I can't do something and we say, look, we're dealing with the same elephant as many parts of it. Yes. And yet we are so intolerant. Why? Because we are so desperate. We are so traumatized. Any expression has to represent all expression. One

film. You know what you didn't do in that film? Negro is one film. Right? So I think that we have to have an open-mindedness. We want to sit around on the sidelines casting stones at people rather than building together and doing something we think is effective.

We got more with Michael Eric Dyson. When we come back don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Yep, we're back. It's The Breakfast Club. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We have Michael Eric Dyson in the building. I got a couple more questions for

y'all here. What do you think about all the backlash that Kamala Harris is receiving? I mean, she was on the greatest show in America yesterday. A couple days ago, The Breakfast Club, where she broke it down. I mean, this is an example of what I'm talking about. Kamala Harris has been black

from the getty up. Ain't nobody... She's been black. She was black and fine. She was black and intelligent. She was black and showing up doing her thing. And whether you agree with her or not had nothing to do with her blackness. It's with her ideology. Maybe you disagree with the politics she has. That's fine. But don't question the blackness. The same people that want to hold black people to account

in this generation, cancel culture, and with the Me Too, which is extremely important, ain't saying nothing about the passage in Michelle Obama's book where she went whole hog against Jeremiah Wright in one of the most misrepresentative pieces of literature we've seen in the last five years. Yeah, I didn't agree with that either. Because it's like they loved Jeremiah Wright at one point, but when it became bad for business politically, they wanted to stand to the side. I don't like that.

How you don't do that? And why you still doing that in the book? Like, y'all not in office no more? You selling a billion copies. I love Michelle Obama like the rest of us, right? But Michelle Obama gratuitously assaulting Jeremiah Wright is offensive in the nth degree. But where's the cancel culture at? Cancel Michelle?

Are you going to cancel Michelle? Are you going to cancel Michelle? That digital era don't know about Jeremiah Wright. But see, that's my point. Some of you just said don't know. And they ain't trying to know. And they ain't trying to ask what they don't know. This is, that's my point. Some of you just said, don't know. And ain't trying to know. And ain't trying to X what they don't know.

This is my problem with digital culture. On the one hand, it's brilliant. It puts an entire library at your keystroke. That's the genius of digital culture.

And no more encyclopedias. Remember, we all had encyclopedias at home. But see, but then the browsing is cut off. So when you go to the card catalog, you're looking for the book.

Oh, I was looking for Charlemagne's book, but I discovered D.J. Envy's book. I discovered Angela Yee's book. You know, I discovered something else because I was looking. And I think, again, the illusion of omnicompetence that the digital culture gives you. It makes you believe because I can wield a keystroke. I can say something. Ooh, I said something bold and I can cut somebody out or I can shade them. Look at the shades of meaning, not the shades you can give. Facebook, I had to face the book and read it.

Look at the digital era's genius, but look at its subversion of tradition and apprenticeship. There is no sense of apprenticeship that you can't have it now. Everybody shouldn't be famous. Everybody shouldn't have a platform. Everybody doesn't have the capacity to speak well at a particular time, and we should acknowledge that. Just because you have access to that particular forum doesn't mean you got something profound

to say. Should it democratize expression so that people that you want to rule out have something to say? Absolutely. But you gotta have the bona fides. You gotta have the chops. You gotta have the ability once you get in to show you deserve to be out have something to say? Absolutely. But you got to have the bona fides. You got to have the chops. You got to have the ability once you get in to show you deserve to be there. Back to your point about Kamala Harris, it's ridiculous. Judge her based upon her performance.

Judge her based upon her politics. Judge her based upon what she will or will not do. But to dismiss her as not being black enough, we done been down there. We done been there and done black before. Let's figure out more complicated and nuanced ways to engage a figure like Kamala Harris. What should the black agenda be? Because a lot of people are saying we're not even thinking about voting in 2020

if these candidates don't have a black agenda. Okay, just get what you already got there. Right? Look, look, look. Talking about the black left, I'm part of the black left. I had huge arguments with the black left last election. Ain't no difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. How do you like it now?

Are you telling me that you don't think, as flawed as Hillary Clinton was, as problematic as you thought she was, that Hillary Clinton was no different than Donald Trump? This is the trauma and problem and tragedy of so much of our politics. And again, for younger black people getting involved, it didn't turn out my way. Welcome to the world. You got to fight again.

This ain't Jesus versus Muhammad, right? This ain't no pure ecstasy of divine appropriation of human form to express identities. These are flawed human beings who are jacked up like you and I are, but some less so than others and some with better policies than others. We have to make them accountable to our interests.

The black agenda should be what? Crime, criminal justice reform is huge. The persistence of poverty is huge in this country. Voter suppression. Let's not ask Kamala Harris how black she is. Let's ask what policies she has to combat voter suppression in this country. We'll never have perfect politics, but we have to understand the need

to get involved in the game. And if we lay back with that same attitude, look at the last election. People were putting in Harambe and filling in the blank of something just to be voting for protests. This is what the right wing understands. You ain't just voting for Trump. You voting for the Supreme Court. Look how ingenious they were. There are now probably three to get involved and for us to continue to vote.

You ain't going to never have no perfect candidates, but you've got to be perfectly engaged in the process. What did Grace Jones say? I may not be perfect, but I'm perfect for you. That's the attitude we have to have when it comes to voting in this country. All right. Well, thank you for joining us. Always a pleasure.

Michael Eric Dyson, ladies and gentlemen. Michael Eric Dyson, baby. Bars. Don't y'all cancel him. Bars on bars. ladies and gentlemen. Michael Eric Dyson, baby. Bars. Don't y'all cancel him. Bars on bars. Please don't. Please don't. Don't nobody cancel Michael Eric Dyson.

I got bills to pay and kids to raise. Some people are uncancellable. Thank you. Love y'all. Breakfast Club, good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed?

A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.

Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I trade my country? My forefathers did that themselves.

What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets.

We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High,

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Jenny Garth, Jana Kramer, Amy Robach, and TJ Holmes bring you I Do Part 2, a one-of-a-kind experiment in podcasting to help you find love again. If you didn't get it right the first time, it's time to try, try again as they guide you through this podcast experiment in dating. Hey, I'm Jana Kramer. As they say, those that cannot do, teach. Actually, I think I finally got it right. So take the failures I've had the second or even third

or whatever, maybe the fourth time around. I'm Jenny Garth. 29 years ago, Kelly Taylor said these words, I choose me. She made her choice. She chose herself. When it comes to love, choose you first. Hi, everyone. I'm Amy Robach.

And I'm TJ Holmes. And we are, well, not necessarily relationship experts. If you're ready to dive back into the dating pool and find lasting love, finally, we want to help. Listen to I Do Part 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God.

We are The Breakfast Club. It's Black History Month. What we doing for our people? Today's Black History Month moment is courtesy of the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. It's one of the greatest scenes in TV history. It showed us that Will Smith could really, really act. And if you were a deadbeat father, it made you want to get your act right and be there for your churn. This is when Will Smith's father left him for what seems like the 19th time on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. daddy coming home, you know? Who needs him? Hey, he wasn't there to teach me how to shoot my first basket, but I learned, didn't I? Hey, I got pretty damn

good attitude, didn't I, Uncle Phil? Yeah, you did. Got through my first day without him, right? I learned how to drive. I learned how to shave. I learned how to fight without him. I had 14 great birthdays without him. He never even sent me a damn card. Die out with him! Will. Nah, you know what, Uncle Phil? I'm gonna get through college without

him. I'm gonna get a great job without him. I'm gonna marry me a beautiful honey, and I'm having a whole bunch of kids. I'm going to get through college without him. I'm going to get a great job without him. I'm going to marry me a beautiful honey, and I'm going to have me a whole bunch of kids. I'm going to be a better father than he ever was. And I sure as hell don't need him for that, because ain't a damn thing he could ever teach me about how to love my kids. How come he don't want me, man?

That was a Black History Month moment brought to you by The Breakfast Club. There's no way you can watch that scene and your eyes don't water up. If you're a full-blown crier, it's going to make you cry. Same thing when Ricky gets shot in the back and Boyz N The Hood, when Mufasa dies in The Lion King,

and when Thomas J gets stung by all those bees in My Girl. Those three things and Will Smith right there guaranteed to make my eyes water without question. All right, well, thank you for that Black History Month moment. Now, when we come back positive notice the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club it's time for your positive note give me them some positivity. Listen, man, the positive note for the day is simple. Some people dream of success while others wake up and work hard at it.

Get your ass up and go work on your dream today. Breakfast club, bitches. You all finished or you all done? Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this.

It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka-stan.

That's Escape from Z-A-Q-a-stan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about.

It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills,

and stories that'll make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.