The Breakfast Club - Broadcasted Hate, Expected Grace (Racial Slur at Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo)

Episode Date: February 24, 2026

Fresh off the Femme It Forward “Femmeland at Sea” cruise, Loren LaRosa checks in with a full heart and a fuller perspective. Surrounded by over a thousand Black women celebrating joy, rest, and sisterhood—with unforgettable moments from Keyshia Cole, Monica, and SWV—Loren reflects on what it means to pause, receive, and understand that out of sight does not mean out of mind. But while one space poured into the culture, another exposed its wounds. Loren unpacks the disturbing moment at the BAFTA Awards when a racial slur was shouted during a live broadcast as Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo stood on stage. She breaks down the apology, the burden of “professionalism,” and the exhausting expectation that Black people must always respond with dignity in the face of disrespectYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Lauren came in hot. Hey, y'all, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa, and this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things, pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that you. shake the room, baby. Back on the grind. Checking in behind the scenes of the grind. And to be honest, I feel like this whole episode is going to feel like a check-in

because I am fresh off of the Finland at sea cruise presented by Femmit Forward. Ms. Heather Lowry, a Delaware girl. She put on a cruise, y'all. Like, that is so fly to me. Like, I kept telling her, like, girl, you don't understand how amazing this is. It was her first year during the cruise. There were over 12 to 1,500 black women sailing a sea and just honestly filling up our cups. And I go to a lot of different things that are like empowerment and women and black women.

And you know, and you feel good when you leave those spaces. But this was so different. I think, number one, because we spent days together. And we didn't have a choice. Like we were literally in the middle of the sea at one point when we were going from Miami to the Bahamas. And you couldn't get off the boat. Phone service was there. Wi-Fi was kind of iffy every now and then so you had to interact you had to just enjoy and originally

I planned to just fly in me and I was going to bring my home girl that shoots shout out to Brianna Tansi just be photography I was going to bring her with me to shoot my content versus my normal content person because I'm like I want another black woman to experience this with me but then two of my friends reached out and was like hey what's up with the crews I want to come and I'm so happy that it was like a friend circle there and I wasn't just there just with Bree I mean me and brie would have had a great time too but it felt like a girl strip and I'm always so like work work work work out of sight is out of mind you got to keep showing up or anybody going to want you to show up at all like the way that I think and talk to myself I realize this weekend is not only very unfair

to myself but it's it's very like work career goal oriented and it's nothing wrong with that but I think what we have to realize and what I realize coming out of out of this cruise this weekend is, you're nowhere by accident. Everything that is happening for you and in your life is happening so that you can learn and grow. And the rooms that you were walking into got into that room for you and pulled up that chair and made it warm for you way before you got there. So out of sight is not out of mind. Out of sight can be resting, can be healing, can be, you know, having conversations that just make you feel good, eating good food, partying. You know, remember in the times, like all of that stuff matters. And I think for myself,

sometimes I can try to work it away. So like when I'm feeling anything or, you know, like now that I'm able to do and help a lot more people family-wise, I'm like, I never want to lose this. So every moment I'm like, oh, you're only as good as your last story. And it's like, yeah, but you're only as good as your last story, but you're only as good as the substance and the depth in the approach and execution. And I mean, it's like if you're shooting a shot,

you can shoot a bunch of different shots. But what goes in the room is what matters. and when you hit that crazy, you know what I mean? Buzzard-beater, three-pointer, like, it's, there's a lot of practice, work, and accuracy that goes into that. And in order for me to be accurate and to, you know, be able to show up and, you know, just do all of the things. Like, I need to just be able to be like, no, it's okay.

We're going to enjoy this weekend. We're not just, we're going to work. Don't get me wrong. I know the girls had a good time. I hosted the HBCU block party while there and a few other events. We had a great time, but I got what I needed too. And it was really unintentional. Like, it was just the atmosphere and the presence.

Like it made you realize like, damn, we're so fire. We're so dope. And I think every time I get to see you guys, my little riders, because I had a lot of people coming up to me and like talking about the podcast and, oh, we want to see more of this on the podcast, more of that on the podcast. So whenever I get to see you guys in real life, I'm like, okay. Like this is this is what it This is what it all is like for

It's like trying to figure out what the impact is It's sometimes hard for me because I think some of this stuff can be monotonous At times But then I had to remember like no it only is if you make it Because these people are receiving so much more than just a news update They're receiving the journey the grind The inspiration the passion you have for the way that you go about it and is teaching other people how to do things and just who you are.

And then other people that come from where you come from and look how you look will get that saying, okay, let me take a second to see if this girl got it or to see if this guy got it because when Lauren did, like, y'all, I am, I'm ready to go and get on my flight, but I am just, I'm just so grateful for, like, God putting me in spaces that I need when I don't even know I need it. Like, I can't just, that, I literally can't even describe what this weekend did for me. So I wanted to take a, you know, a second to shout out that team. And over, you know, the weekend I had a, I helped craft the story rundown for the show on Monday,

even though I decided to take the day off. I was going to come into work from the boat. And I was like, no, I want to spend this last day really, like, feeling my, like, my friends that came with me and just figuring out how I feel after this weekend and why I feel that way. But we crafted the run of show, me and the other producers. and so I saw everything that was happening with Michael B. Jordan and Delry Lindo and, you know, sinners and the BAFTA Awards and just the conversations that were sparked by that moment. And for those of you guys who are not familiar, we're going to get into it in the latest right now. Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are out of them.

And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast. I'm Jennifer Stewart and I'm Catherine Clark and in this podcast we interview Canada's most inspiring women entrepreneurs artists athletes politicians and newsmakers all at different stages of their journey so if you're looking to connect then we hope you'll join us listen to the honest talk podcast and iHeart radio or wherever you listen to your podcasts what do you do in the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you I'm ben Higgins and if you can hear me is where culture meets the soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and

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history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Lettby. Lucy Lettby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, doubt the case of Lucy Lettby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No, of all. of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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No one had ever seen anything like that. It was unbelievable. This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS. and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its fault of secrets. Listen to the Sixth Bureau on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So during the BAFTA Awards, there was a man in the audience who was a subject of a film that was also, you know, being honored at the awards. This man's name was John Davidson. And John Davidson is a man who suffers with a version.

of Tourette's. I'm not even going to attempt to say the name because I can't, but I will insert how you said here. And he, during the broadcast, shouted out the N-word while Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo were on stage presenting Best Visual Effects Award to Avatar

Fire and Ash. Let's take a listen to the N-word being shouted. Delaware and I are delighted to be presenting the first BAFTA of the night for a vital part of movie making. So after this, you know, BBC got a lot of backlash because y'all are airing it and you guys don't even take the time delay to like edit it out before it's put out on your platform. BAPTA got a lot of backlash because they came out and apologized. But their apology also included a look, let's just have a conversation about the disability and what the disability does. But they had no conversation about what two black men standing in a room full of people or anybody,

watching any black person watching uh has to endure when you hear that and and hear it shouted in a room for the people and having to watch michael b jordan and delroy lindo basically like just eat it like they took a pause they continued but you could tell the restraint um that they had to show in that moment um and and if i'm just having you know an honest conversation i remember when conier west was doing things like the white lives matter t-shirts and saying different things in song and against different communities and, you know, the swastika t-shirt. And the conversation around Kanye West at the time was not only about what he is doing, right? And Kanye West doesn't have Tourette's, but we all know Kanye West, you can't control him.

But I mentioned him and I mentioned those moments because I remember the conversation around or for the Jewish communities was about the hate. that would happen after that moment, right? So there were then reports about, you know, random, you know, Jewish hate movements happening in the uprising of them and signage being showed different places following Kanye West's moment. And everything was pointed back to the moments where he chose, you know,

wrongfully too. I don't agree with anything Kanye West did or said, you know, against any community. But everything pointed back to those moments. where these things were put on a platform, regardless if you agree with them or not, regardless if he was mentally in his right mind or not, these things were platformed through music, through fashion, through media covering it. And the conversation was about how can we protect, you know, this group of people because

this will spark hate. I read the BAFTA apology that they put up where they apologized to, you know, Michael B. Jordan, Delver Lindo, you know, everyone that was, you know, that had to endure this. They talked a bit about, you know, his type of Tourette's and how, you know, basically what he is saying is not reflective of how he actually feels. And, I mean, look, you can argue that all day and that's what's happening right now. But no one has said, like, no, Bafta, no one from any official committee has said,

well, what about the hate that this will spark moving forward? Like, there has been none of that. And the fact that there is a huge platform that could have been responsible enough to remove it. They removed other things. Like, what about that? That didn't happen. So I'm on this boat and I'm looking around at all these black women, generations of black women, little girls, you know, women my age, college students, recent college graduates. And we're, and black women, women of color, like, we all there and we vibe it and we having such a good time.

And then I'm looking at the news and I'm like, dang, like, I hate the fact that black and empathy and bullshit always have to live in the same sentence. Like, why do we always have to be empathetic? Like even in BAFTA's apology, and I'm going to pull it up. And at the end of the statement, they say, we take full responsibility for putting our guests in a very difficult situation and we apologize to all. We will learn from this and keep inclusion at the core of all that we do, maintaining our belief in film and storytelling as a. critical conduit for compassion and empathy. Now they also, when they talk about Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo, they say early in the ceremony, a loud tick in the form of a profoundly offensive term was heard by many people in the

room. Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo were on stage at the time and we apologize unreservedly to them and to all those impacted. We would like to thank Michael B. Jordan and Delroy for their incredible dignity and professionalism. Oh, and I get it. I mean, they're trying to make it right, right, right? They're trying to make it right.

They're apologizing and they're doing all the things. The press release is here. But it pissed me off that they, in this, mentioned their incredible dignity and professionalism. Because who would be expected to remain professional and have dignity in a moment like that? And it's crazy because I was thinking, too, like, all right, if in that, moment delroyland dough or michael b jordan had responded in any way i mean they didn't even it's like they knew and i know like we on the podcast here at the latest with lorna rosa we've talked about as like black women like all of my black women listeners i always talk to you guys directly even without

knowing it because there are little things that we do like the clock it and all the things and like mm-hmm like like girl like i could just say girl and you know what's about to come next right we have this like these things these the body language the the words that we use that you just know when i looked at michael b jordan and del row lindo in that video and i saw their bodies and i saw how they tightened up in that moment i'm like they know they can't even blink the wrong way right now literally because then the story becomes about their reaction and not about what was done so it it takes them from being a victim of a moment they should have not had to endure to anything else that people would have wanted to put on them

depending on how they reacted. And I was so happy that they handled it the way that they did only because I'm like, the world needs to respond for them. But I was so, it broke my heart that they had to do that. And Del Rilendo gave a statement to a Vanity Fair and he talked about, you know, how after the award show,

he just wishes someone from the BAFTA organization had come and talk to them about what it just happened. And that I know of that has not still happened yet. I did reach out to Bafta, and I plan to reach out to Michael B, Jordan, and Delroyland those teams to see if there's any update there, because I can't imagine they haven't reached out at this point. If they haven't, someone over there is just very culturally incompetent and just not a good human being.

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Listen to the Honest Talk podcast on IHartRadio or wherever you listen to your podcasts. What do you do when the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me, is where culture meets the soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks, and we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff, identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore, loss that changes you, purpose when success isn't enough, peace when your mind won't slow down,

faith when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended.

A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, doubt the case of Lucy Lettby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing.

of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world.

But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall. This MSS officer has no idea the U.S. government is on to him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast. I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question, of his life. And that's a unicorn. No one had ever seen anything like that.

It was unbelievable. This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS. and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its fault of secrets. Listen to the Sixth Bureau on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Derbri Lindo said to Vanity Fair about the moment, we were just doing what we knew we had to do. And we always are just doing what we got to do. Like we always are. And that's never, honestly, I don't have hope that that will ever change.

You know, and I can't speak for anyone else or any other. other races. I've always just only been a black woman. But it's always, well, you got to do what you got to do. It's always that. And it's frustrating because I look around and I think about, you know, everything I experienced on this cruise. I mean, Keisha Cole and her beautiful ability to sing and all the support she had in the room. Monica and just her storytelling and how she's been a part of our lives telling these stories. Literally my whole life, I'm 34 years old. SWV went completely Acapella, y'all, on that stage,

mid-sea, because their sound wasn't what they needed it to be and delivered. Motivational speeches, the conversation I had with Crystal Renee on Keep It Positive, sweetie, not only did, I feel like everybody in the room got to, like, know me a bit. Because, you know, like, Breakfast Club, like, I'm sitting with, like, four other people

and they might not listen to my podcast. But I feel like I got to, like, see me. myself differently after that conversation. Like completely differently. Like, it was just like, oh my God, I don't want to sound so cliche, but it was, there was such an awakening. There were so many awakening moments for me this weekend where I felt like I don't have to just be.

And if I do choose to just be, I choose to exist, not just be, not get along to get along. And then you see something like this to two very established actors, very successful men who we're leading to charge and storytelling and television. And it's like, dang, like, do we ever really get forward? Like, is that a thing? It was just crazy to me, the irony. And I've been thinking about that all yesterday when I was preparing for the podcast today and the show yesterday.

Like, all yesterday, I was thinking the irony of you have all of us black. And I mean, it was like, you had Milano DiRouge, you had I saw B Simone Pretty V Haddor Lowry Well she did the cruise Ashley Christopher from

HBCU Week Scotty Beam and Sylvia Bell did their podcast as well too Shout out to my girls There was just so much going on on the podcast I mean on the boat

And so many women successful astutes like you know bomb fire women right And all of this is happening I'm like At the same time in the world somebody somewhere who has worked their asses off to have respect

is being disrespectful because they look like you and me. And that is insane. So, I mean, I hope that there will be more from, you know, BAFTA on what else they have done to, I mean, you can't make up for something like this, but I do think that there's a right course of correction. And I don't think that they've done everything, in my opinion, that they could have done for these to be two

very established world-renowned artists, actors who are leading to charge on not just black storytelling, but storytelling in general. Some of the biggest celebrities in the world just sat and got called the worst racial slur you could ever call them to their face and you broadcasted it. And all they got was,

I love your professionalism and your dignity, we are sorry. And from what Del Rolindo says, that wasn't even said directly to them. So we'll keep you guys posted as things update there. Yeah, I want to get in now to just, you know, what we didn't get to play from the crew, some of the conversations, you know,

the live performances, we got Keisha Cole on stage tearing it down. Baby, Monica gonna take you to Atlanta with her and make you, I'm always down to go kick down the door and smack a chick because Monica said so. And I gave that up a long time ago. But when Monica

get on stage and see that part, it'd be like, all right, girl, where's she at what you need? Because stop playing with Monica. SWV on stage. I definitely want to do the part where they are just completely A cappella. They sounded amazing. Shout out to SWV. This has been another episode of the latest with Lauren LaRosa.

I'm your host, Lauren the Rosa. And I tell you guys every single episode, and I really do mean it. I love seeing y'all in person. I love talking to you guys here, and I tell you whether we in person and we outside jump with Double Dutch or be right here on the podcast that y'all could be anywhere with anybody talking about all of the things. And the fact that you guys choose to be here with me every episode, I appreciate it so much. It has literally changed my life, period. So I'll see you guys in my next episode. I'm about to go catch just flight and drink some tea because that cruise ate my voice up.

Talk to y'all later. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Brise. In 2018, the FBI took down a ring of spies working for China's Ministry of State Security, one of the most mysterious intelligence agencies in the world. The Sixth Bureau podcast is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its fault of secrets. Listen to the Sixth Bureau on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On the Adventures of Curiosity Cove podcasts, when Peanut butter disappears from school, Ella, Scout, and Layla launch a full detective mission. Their search leads them back in time to meet a brilliant inventor whose curiosity changed the world. And this Black History Month adventure, asking questions, thinking creatively, can lead to amazing discoveries. Listen to Adventures of Curiosity Cove every Monday from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

You can scroll the headlines all day and still feel empty. I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me, is where culture meets the soul. Honest conversations about identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith, and everything in between. Celebrities, thinkers, everyday people, some have answers. Most are still figuring it out. And if you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on my iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the K-Hart

of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.

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