The Breakfast Club - Busta Rhymes On Work Ethic, Dream Collabs, New Generations Music, 'Blockbusta' Album + More

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

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Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our guest host Busta Rhymes and Claudia Jordan. Busta Rhymes

album is out right now. Blockbuster. Yes. So recently we had a conversation with Swizz. Yes. And I asked Swizz how he got himself, Timbaland, and Pharrell. Now Busta, probably about a month ago, said he's doing an album where Pharrell, Timbaland, and Swizz Beatz are the EPs. How? How does that happen? Rob Markman, Jr.: Busta is somebody that don't back down easy. You can't tell him no. And he signed us up for his project and we just said, okay, let's do it. He came and he's like, you know, you, Tim, Pharrell, y'all are my producers for

the project. I'm like, okay. No, the executive producers. Okay. And then I don't know, like somehow we actually all got into a space, which is a photo of us on this boat. And I'm sitting here, I'm like, yo, he really manifested this. Like we didn't even plan to be on that boat at that time. It's not like, okay, let, yo, he really manifested this. Like, we didn't even plan to be on that boat at that time. It's not like, okay, let's have an executive producer boat ride. Like, we just all ended up sitting there, and I'm looking around like, okay, I hear the universe. Okay, I guess we doing it. So, where did you come up with the idea to have all three of those great producers. EP, your project.

MV, I'm going to tell you the truth. Pharrell created that day with all of us coming together. Pharrell invited us to this unbelievable yacht. We was in Miami, all of us in Miami chilling. We come to the yacht. Everybody's there. We pull up. We rocking on the yacht, vibing. We eating food.

We drinking. We smoking cig the yacht, vibing, we eating food, we drinking, we smoking cigars, we vibing. Swiss had just finished working on DMX, Rest in Peace DMX, last album. This posthumous album. And there's a table on the yacht on the upper deck level, and we all sitting around that, and we were just talking for a few hours. We was on the, I believe we was on the yacht

probably like eight hours that day. About four hours into the day, it just kept going really, really crazy in my mind. And I'm sitting here with three of my brothers, all 25 plus year relationships. Brothers,

they all produced on all of my shit. Excuse me. They all produced on all of my projects at some point or another. Whether it was two out of the three of them or all three of them or one out of the three of them, right? And I'm like, yo, I'm looking at them, and they looking at me, they looking at each other. We talking, ain't nobody bringing up no music.

It was no music talk outside of the DMX album because Swish wanted us to hear it. But all the other conversation throughout the day was just regular conversation. I'm like, listen, I just need to say this to all three of y'all. Ain't no way in the world that I'm going to get off this boat and not tell y'all that this is not going to be a moment where we shouldn't be discussing doing a Busta Rhymes album

with all of y'all producing it. I don't care what, I ain't taking no back talk. Started off as an EP, two songs from Swiss, two songs from Pharrell, two songs from Timbaland. We get through the six records. I just was like, wait a minute, I'm not feeling like this is enough, because I'm not an EP dude, you know what I'm saying? I'm an album dude. And the energy that was filling and sounding so incredible from them six records is set the standard for what the rest of the album should feel like and sound like.

And what was dope about the album when it was just those six songs was every song felt like feel-good energy party and turn-up records. Coming off an ELE2 album, we was speaking directly to what was happening. We was in a pandemic. The protesting was happening.

The riots, the George Floyd murders, and all of the, you know, it was too much dark energy. But it was necessary at the time, and it was a beautiful body of work and an installment that was needed for the time. Them six songs felt like I was back in my put your hands chamber and party going on over here and everything remains raw. And it felt like we was in that bag all the way with just them six songs. And I was like, I ain't got enough of this.

I need more of this. So as I was playing it for people, they wanted to be a part of that. From the new artists to other producers. And it just kept evolving. And I got to ask, so people have been hitting me this morning, and I thought about it too.

Aren't you on tour? I just came off tour on the 21st of November. Okay, because I've seen you and 50 on tour all over the place. I see 5th still on tour. I'm like, shouldn't Busta be overseas somewhere? Five months on the road. 5th is still on the road.

He's rocking probably until like December 23rd, I think. He in India and Mumbai and Bahrain. My last show was at the O2 in London. It was our third English show. We did two O2 sold out shows in one Wembley arena. Wow. July 21st to November 21st. I come home on the 22nd 23rd was Thanksgiving

24th dropped the album album release party private location you never stopped working I ain't stopped well hold on let's get into a record we gonna come back with Buster now this is the record with your kids on it

what's the name of the record? it's called Legacy Big Up Trillion My, my young spitter. Big up my beautiful daughter, C, and big up my other beautiful daughter who plays classical piano, Rye. And big up to Mars and big up to all of the other producers that assisted in the production with Mars.

And I just need y'all to enjoy that. This DNA is very real in this royalty bloodline over here, y'all. I want to ask you, so it seems like you're really good at manifesting things and making things happen. Like you have just, like you are speaking things into existence. So how about here on The Breakfast Club, since this is your first time here, who is it that you have not worked with

or that you're like a dream collaboration if you haven't done it already? Is there someone out there that you're like, look, this would be like it for me. Yeah, who haven't you work with you didn't work with damn near everybody Yeah, I ain't work with Cole yet. I want to work with Cole. I'm a huge fan of Jay Cole I'm sure he's listening right now Jay Cole. I'm a huge fan of Jay Cole I'm a huge fan of JID. JID is crazy. Shout out to JID. JID is crazy too. Big shout out to JID huge fan of Drakeid. Jid. Jid is crazy. Shout out to Jid. Jid is crazy too. Big shout out to Jid. Huge fan of Drake.

Love to work with Drake. Huge fan of... There's a singer... I love Friday's work. I love... There's a young lady. What's her name? Coco Jones? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, Coco Jones. Coco Jones is incredible to me. She's so dope. She's incredible to me. I'm a huge fan of Janelle Monae, too. And they got a new artist out. I forget his name, but he sound like Marvin Gaye. That's October London.

London? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He sound so crazy. So dope. So dope. So crazy. Like, dude is, I only heard the one song. It cut deep. Go to his page and just follow him.

He is amazing. His sound. His brother is unbelievable. And you know who else, too? I can't front. Toby and WeeGway. Toby and WeeGway, yeah. He's incredible to me.

He dope. Big up to Toby. He dope. Big up to Toby. He dope. Love dude. Oh, by the way, let me take a second to just big up my brother Bun B. You know what I'm saying? The record that we did on the album. With the baby.

On Blockbuster with the baby and T-Pain. Big up to Bun B for clearing it. Rest in peace to Pimp C. Of course. Salute to Zero. Big up Jeezy. You know what I'm saying? I think Hove had something to do with the song too.

But, and whoever the producer is, every last one of them up, but Bun B, you know, that's my, that's who I interact with frequently. And Bun B, I just want to thank him for blessing me with the clearance.

I want to thank Bun B for the big up that he just gave recently on the Twitter and just shouted us with how proud he felt we did with all three of us, and he called it the trifecta. That's dope. With me and T-Pain and the baby. And big up the baby and big up T-Pain. And big up every damn body on my album. Big them up.

My kids, Quavo. I'm going to get into the whole shout out list after we finish running through some of these songs. But yeah, man, those is the names that I'm feeling right now. I'm leaving out a couple, but off the top, that's where it's at. And I had to ask. Thank you so much, Claudia.

Sure. How did you decide? The one thing I would say about Busta is you always had your hold on the legacy OG artists and also the younger artists, right? So back then, you would do a record with Slick Rick or Rakim, but then you do a record with Coil Array and DaBaby. Absolutely.

So what made you want to do the records with those individuals, like a Coil Array? The new artists- Even with the video, the Luxury Life, which is a redone of Foxy and Hov. Absolutely. First of all, I'm going to always give it up to the timeless greatness, art, and contribution that pushed the culture forward. And it also evolved the culture because when them records was happening,

when we was doing it, you already know, that 96 to like 2001 was probably the most lucrative time in hip hop, period. So big up to Hov, big up to Foxy on clearing that. And as far as the new artists with the Coil Quavo, and Moray, and Young Thug, and Giggs, and Young Blue, and Blash, and all these new artists. For me, on this album in particularly, I just felt like I needed to speak to both generations real quick. When I said what I said at the BET Awards,

I was trying to speak to both generations. I wanted the young generations to know that we love them. We support them. We admire what you're doing. And I'm not going to really do this entertaining of this little bugged out propaganda and this's this little narrative of you know the elder statesmen and the OGs don't respect it as far as what y'all are doing

is concerned we do and there's a lot of us that like it a lot of us that love it a lot of us that's fans of it and I'm gonna speak for me because I come from a group with a legacy and a name that we had to fight to earn and was called leaders of the new school I'm always gonna do that.

And I think culturally even deeper than a name, which is why the name was something that was greater than a name for us. It was an attribute. We wanted to live this name. When you live it, it's an attribute because it's attributed to the way you actually carry your action out. So for me, Leaders of the new school from a cultural standpoint came from, in our community as black children in the so-called urban community,

we want to always pull up as the ones that discovered the new thing first. Of course. Whether it was the new pair of sneakers, whether it was the new denim suit from Levi's, whether it was the new battle from Cold Crush and For Some C's, Kumo D and Busy B, or the new whip. Everything new, we love culturally to be the one to stunt and show off and say we putting everybody else on to something. That means you are about leading the new from a cultural place this is the way we live culture is a way of life so ultimately

if i'm going to be this person from when i started and this is all i know culturally this ain't a style thing this This is a way of life thing. I like leading the new. I was also taught and raised to believe that you can't put a timeline on greatness. Correct. So at the end of the day, you're not going to tell me because of my age or because of my legacy in the

time that I put into this professionally, that I'm not going to be in time that I put into this professionally, that I'm not going to be in tune because I make a conscious effort with keeping my finger on the pulse. You feel what I'm saying? I'm in the street every night for real. I'm going to call a DJ up for real. I'm going to send you my record myself for real. Do you think that's a lost art form?

We're talking to Busta Rhymes. The reason I say that is, like I was saying to you earlier, Busta, there is no more of, well, I'll have my label people call, right? When I was a small DJ and I only had one hour a show, one hour a week, Busta would call that one line for the record. And I'm calling a cell phone. Yes. Busta would come pull up to the club and Busta still does that.

Most of these artists don't do that no more. Maybe they don't respect the DJ as much or they don't respect radio. What makes you still have the grind to do it? You don't have to.

You're financially secure. You're great. But you still do the things that a new artist would do. Why? I love it too much. I care about it too much.

And I was also taught being 5%, you ain't going to sit home and wait for Mr. Regard to bring you food. Say, Mr. Regard, you're going to sit home and wait to bring you food. He also bestowed the blessing and the gift and gave you the ability to have a life that exists in real time and space for you to go get it yourself. Right.

That's the blessing in itself. What you've been gifted with to exist and have and be able to be acknowledged for just existing is the gift itself. So instead of me waiting and asking somebody to do something that I could actually do, yeah, I'm going to appreciate the assistance. I got a support system, of course, but I'm not relying on a support system as if I ain't going to do nothing. And it's the responsibility of the support system alone to secure the win for me.

My children ain't my support system responsibility. They mine. Right. So regardless of what my support system is doing, the most high I don't owe not even my support system another five seconds so he wiped everybody off the face of the earth

still got to live and die on my own iniquity at the end of the day and besides all of that bro I like the space that I'm in right now I'm a happy mom I like to see you happy

I'm happy as hell Envy I'm super duper happy so for me I'm really in a space where I'm enjoying my life I'm happy as hell, Envy. I'm super duper happy. So for me, I'm really in a space where I'm enjoying my life. I'm enjoying what I'm doing. I'm enjoying what I'm creating. I'm enjoying that I'm making records with my children

when I used to have to make records for my children. Right. I love that you're speaking on this because I know we did speak about the disconnect between some artists. Clearly not you because you are opening the pathway, the lines of communication with these younger artists. But there are some people that don't respect the older generation and vice versa.

I love that you're speaking on that because I think we are in this microwave society where a lot of people think they don't know the hard work that the people that came before them had to put in. So what would you say to someone that has the talent, that has like everything

about them that could be a star, but they don't have that grind? What would you say to them? Because you are here at 530. You was on time. Thanks for that question, Queen, because I think this is

one of them questions that is going to allow me to say something that I've been longing to say. Okay. There was a lot of answers that I wanted when I was trying to get myself together in the earlier stage of my career, and I was blessed enough to have a Chuck D that gave me my name,

a Big Daddy Kane that would allow me to come to his crib in the Jamaica Estates in his multi-million dollar home when he had the purple burgundy bands with the gold AMG deep dish rims. Right? Not AMG deep dish rims. It was Hammer deep dish rims. I don't remember the brand. Hammer the bands, yeah.

It was Hammer joints. And Botts was his manager, and he used to let me come there and sit down and just watch the TV and ask questions and see chicks pull up and who would cook in the kitchen. Parrish for me, PMD, Eric Sermon, they would let me come to their crib.

And this is when they was on their second or third group album. And I bought my first whip in like 93. It was a 4Runner that I bought in Queensbridge, a secondhand car lot. And I bought this car. I drive out there. And Parrish had a bunch of real estate. He had property all over Long estate. He had property all over

Long Island. He had Schumer Management, EPMD. They was the first dudes that I was actually seeing do things outside of just being artists. The diversifying of the portfolio was like the first time that I was seeing this. So I was

asking questions and I was getting the answers from the elder statesman to me. I was seeing this. So I was asking questions and I was getting the answers from the elder statesman to me. I was the young and I was the new dude. And they felt good about sharing that with me. I understood at that point, them dudes was walking in their purpose. And I know that as much as I needed it and it helped me one thing I think Denzel said on the ground one day that I saw in a post he was like you can't

go to your grave with the U-Haul truck so everything that you got you can't take it with you I'm gonna give it away because I ain't got no choice I'm in such a blessed place in my life. I don't need you to give me back nothing other than the reciprocal love that I've given you. Just give me the same respect. But more importantly, the thing that I'm going to need for you to give me is that if you are

a new artist, then I'm going to make the time to sit with Bill and walk in my purpose and share the information and give you the keys and give you the answers to the deep sea scroll. And when you open a Pandora box, I got the answer on what's inside of the Pandora box for your ass too.

Only thing you can do for me is be successful in showing me how much you're going to apply the information I'm giving you. And secure the win. And make what I'm giving you yours and evolve it into something else and give it to somebody else. you and secure the win and make what I'm giving you yours and evolving into something else and give it to somebody else mm-hmm I don't wanna own I ain't even interested in signing no artists I don't even want that oh oh I want to

deal with none of that I want I just want to empower people at this point in my life I'd be your own boss I don't want to take a piece of your this or a piece of your that. You shine. But pull up, though, and let me give you this thing. Because this thing that I'm going to give you, it actually should come with an invoice. You need to pay me for this information.

But I don't want nothing from you but to see you secure the win. But the problem with that, Busta, and we're talking to Busta Rhymes, he's here, the album is out, Blockbuster. Thank you, King. A lot of people say they're a boss, but they don't know how to be a boss.

You're absolutely right. It's cool to be like I'm a boss. You're right. It's cool to be, but you have to learn. You have to learn what that means. You're absolutely right. And a lot of people, they need to sign to somebody because they need somebody to show them the way.

You're absolutely right. A lot of people can't do that. And I think with this day and age, people are like, I'm a boss, but people feel like they don't want to work to somebody because they need somebody to show them the way. You're absolutely right. A lot of people can't do that. And I think with this day and age, people have more balls, but people feel like they don't want to work for somebody. No, you're absolutely right. They don't want to put the grind in. They don't want to sign to somebody. They don't want to do it.

But we've all been to a place where we had to learn. I think social media made a lot of people arrogant that have not done the work to earn their arrogance. One trillion percent, queen. Like, really? A post? One trillion percent of what you're saying? Yeah. One trillion percent, queen. Like, really? A post? 1 trillion percent of what you saying? Yeah.

1 trillion percent of what you saying, Envy? Reason why I don't want to sign no artists right now is because I don't respect unappreciative artists when you sign them and help them blossom and blow and develop and evolve and grow and become great. And then they act like you ain't had nothing to do with it. I get out the way. Show me you could do it on your own.

But see, if I'm not signed to you, the obligation ain't the same. When I'm giving you now, I don't owe you nothing after that. Take what I'm giving you and know that it's so priceless at the end of the day. You actually owe me by getting this information and using it and being successful with what I'm giving you. And that's the only way you can reward me.

And if I keep it on that place, I don't got to chase you for the bag. I don't got to chase you for the money you owe me. I don't got to chase you for the money you owe me. I don't got to have accountants audit nothing. I don't got to have lawyers block clearances or block this or block that because now that's going to change the dynamic of the respect, the relationship, and the willingness to just listen to each other. I lived through this experience. I'm going to tell you the best part about my happiness right now is making those hard decisions

to remove everything that was blocking my blessing. Have you always had this perspective? No, I didn't. Because you came in here giving flowers to everyone. You started off your time here giving flowers

to Envy. You just spread the love to everyone here, right? It's a very mature perspective. Thank you, Queen. When did this happen? Was this recent? Were you always like this? Nah, I never... I didn't always have the perspective of

understanding how to become this happy. I've always had the perspective of being a flower giver and a giver of love. I love to give love. I love to acknowledge people for their greatness. I'm super comfortable in my space. I don't compete until it's time to respectfully compete.

And I'm not a disrespectful competitor because I don't disrespect people You don't know me for having beef with nobody in the industry. I'm not known for dis you know artists on no record I'm not known for getting this by artists on no record because I make sure that the relationship as men and as humans like we're not gonna compromise the integrity and the moral compass and code of ethics and principles we're not gonna do that because right dude is just misconstrued and living these lies which is these alter egos and personas we got walking around there on some superstar business like no because see I'm not

calling your phone I'm not getting on it social media to dish you if you somebody that me and you got a difference or issue or a conflict I'm not getting on social media to diss you. If you somebody that me and you got a difference or issue or a conflict, I'm going to call your phone. I was going to say that. I was going to say Buster's had beef before, but if you ever see Buster, he will pull up on you. Yeah, I'm going to come see you. It doesn't matter if you're in a club, if you're in a restaurant,

if you out, he wants to pull up and he's going to have a conversation. We need to get back to those days. I respect that. And Buster will have a conversation until it's finished. Until it's finished. No, I'm serious. Busta can walk in the club at 2.30 and it's not finished till 5.

Busta is not. When y'all finish, y'all either gonna hug or y'all gonna shake hands and walk the other way. I've seen it a zillion and one times. Wow. And I always respect it. But let's get into another record off the album. Let's do it. What you wanna get into? Let's get into the Me and let's touch this Me and Young Blue and Blash record.

I got to big up my man. Miguel. I got to big up Miguel crazy. I got to big up Salam. I got to big up J. Cole. And I got to big up Osmosis Architect, who produced the joint. And let's just continue to just feed the streets the full-course meal this joint right here is called could it be you bus rhymes the dragon featuring young blue and blast let's go

let's go blockbusters out right now busters called according to jordan download stream pick it up we here's the breakfast club good morning wake that ass up. In the morning. The Breakfast Club. Hello, my undeadly darlings. It's Teresa, your resident ghost host. And do I have a treat for you. Haunting is crawling out from the shadows, and it's going to be devilishly good. We've got chills, thrills, and stories that

will make you wish the lights stayed on. So join me, won't you? Let's dive into the eerie unknown together. Sleep tight, if you can. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about.

It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're Mess. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like J-Lo on her third divorce.

Living. Girls' trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. Living. It's kind of mess. Yeah.

Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name QWAR.

And we'd like you to join us each week for our show, Civic Cipher. That's right. We discuss social issues, especially those that affect black and brown people, but in a way that informs and empowers all people. We discuss everything from prejudice to politics to police violence, and we try to give you the tools to create positive change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies to each other. So join us each Saturday for Civic Cipher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone.

The crack of the bat and another one gone. The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records.

Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.