The Breakfast Club - Cardi B Talks Bongos, Women In Rap, Child Discipline, Migos, Mic Throwing + More
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                                         The Breakfast Club.
                                         
                                         Morning, everybody.
                                         
                                         It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious.
                                         
                                         We are The Breakfast Club, and we got a special guest in the building.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         Cardi B. Cardi B. Body, B. Bigious. We are The Breakfast Club, and we got a special guest in the building. That's right. Cardi B.
                                         
                                         Cardi B.
                                         
    
                                         Body B is back.
                                         
                                         Big body.
                                         
                                         Welcome.
                                         
                                         Hey, buddy.
                                         
                                         Hey.
                                         
                                         How you feeling?
                                         
                                         You know how I'm feeling.
                                         
                                         Be honest.
                                         
    
                                         Be honest.
                                         
                                         I'm sad because I really had planned this week out and everything, and all of a sudden
                                         
                                         I wake up like, yeah, what the hell going on?
                                         
                                         My stomach is killing me.
                                         
                                         Like bubble guts?
                                         
                                         Like bubble guts.
                                         
                                         Like bubble guts. Nothing want to come out anything like i'm like stressed like because i what time is it i
                                         
                                         hope by at least by 12 o'clock something come out and i'm like i like relieved but like what you
                                         
    
                                         eat last night that's a great question yeah never mind i asked the wrong person i did ate a pizza
                                         
                                         oh all right so the cheese you probably lact those intolerant. I don't know.
                                         
                                         It was a wrong one.
                                         
                                         It was, I don't know.
                                         
                                         And I drank a lot of coffee yesterday, so I don't know. There goes the coffee.
                                         
                                         I don't know what's going on, but I don't deserve this.
                                         
                                         But you was practicing with your whip shots?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         You put your whip shots on coffee?
                                         
                                         No, I just, I don't know.
                                         
                                         I'm just like going through a lot right now.
                                         
                                         So what do you do at noon if you got a poop in you out in public, body?
                                         
                                         You can't just pull up in a McDonald'sdonald's or nothing yes the for who the why wouldn't i i i stay with wet wipes
                                         
                                         jesus christ i stay with wet wipes and and hand sanitizer like i'm i'm a mom so you have to have
                                         
                                         that yes that's true because your kids want to yes anytime yeah right unexpected so and also me
                                         
                                         like it might not be the food though Cardi
                                         
    
                                         I don't know what it is
                                         
                                         Maybe it could be number three
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         It definitely ain't no
                                         
                                         They don't know
                                         
                                         Number three
                                         
                                         Nah
                                         
                                         It could be
                                         
    
                                         They ain't number three
                                         
                                         After if
                                         
                                         After I go on tour
                                         
                                         I definitely gonna
                                         
                                         Wanna have a baby like
                                         
                                         Have another one
                                         
                                         Yeah I wanna have another one
                                         
                                         How many kids do you want?
                                         
    
                                         Like at least four
                                         
                                         Four
                                         
                                         You know people gonna watch this interview
                                         
                                         Throughout the whole interview, they're
                                         
                                         going to be thinking, damn, Cardi look like she got a shit.
                                         
                                         Probably so.
                                         
                                         But I didn't want it to come out.
                                         
                                         I said like for three times, like I can't.
                                         
    
                                         Like I just want like one out or something.
                                         
                                         Nothing, nothing.
                                         
                                         What do you think will come out first,
                                         
                                         the shit or your second album?
                                         
                                         They're going to start like that.
                                         
                                         Jesus Christ.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         Jesus Christ. My second album is going to come out. I have to. I Christ. Wow. Jesus Christ.
                                         
    
                                         My second album is gonna come out.
                                         
                                         I have to.
                                         
                                         I have to.
                                         
                                         I have to.
                                         
                                         When is the question where people want?
                                         
                                         This year?
                                         
                                         Next year.
                                         
                                         Next year.
                                         
    
                                         Early next year.
                                         
                                         Can we congratulate Cardi on her single?
                                         
                                         She got a single that's out today.
                                         
                                         Can we congratulate her?
                                         
                                         Bungles.
                                         
                                         Bungles featuring Megan Thee Stallion.
                                         
                                         Love it.
                                         
                                         What inspired Bungles?
                                         
    
                                         I feel like I answered this question like a hundred times. I've been on a run, honey. What inspired bongos?
                                         
                                         I feel like I answered this question like a hundred times.
                                         
                                         I've been on a run, honey.
                                         
                                         Well, always the beat.
                                         
                                         You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         Like at first, it's always like you hear the beat and it's like, oh, I like this beat.
                                         
                                         Like, I really like this beat.
                                         
                                         It's funk, but it kind of reminds me of Dembow.
                                         
    
                                         Definitely Dembow. It reminds me of Dembow, but it's really funk.
                                         
                                         Like technically it's funk. Like technically is funk.
                                         
                                         So, um, what is them bowl?
                                         
                                         You know, the Dominican uptown, you know, like, you know, I'll find a knock on that.
                                         
                                         I'll take you.
                                         
                                         You, you be outside.
                                         
                                         You'll be outside.
                                         
                                         You don't be outside.
                                         
    
                                         You don't be outside.
                                         
                                         I'll be in the house.
                                         
                                         I got to take you outside.
                                         
                                         But that's the style of music.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         It's not a music.
                                         
                                         It's a style of music. It's a style of outside. I'll be in the house.
                                         
                                         I got to take you outside.
                                         
    
                                         But that's a style of music.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's a style of music.
                                         
                                         It's a Dominican style of music.
                                         
                                         But like technically really is funk.
                                         
                                         But I just love the beat.
                                         
                                         I start working on the beat.
                                         
                                         I mean, I start working on the song.
                                         
                                         But there's like a lot of empty spaces.
                                         
    
                                         There's a lot of empty spaces.'s a lot of empty spaces i try to fill the empty spaces like you know like just me rapping and rapping and rapping and rapping and it just felt
                                         
                                         like a long ass song like they just needed dynamic so me and my team like my team wanted to go like
                                         
                                         more like latin artists and i was like i hear megan yeah i hear megan i hear megan on it they're
                                         
                                         like really you don't see like you see this like like, like more Latin? I'm like, no, I see Megan. And then like exactly what I
                                         
                                         was like hearing in my head, I sent her the song. Cut the cameras. Exactly what I was
                                         
                                         envisioning in my head. Like when she, like when she, I got her like verse back. It was
                                         
                                         like, you see, this is what I was envisioning
                                         
                                         and it just
                                         
    
                                         made sense
                                         
                                         were you scared
                                         
                                         the team up with Megan again
                                         
                                         cause WAP was such a
                                         
                                         massive record
                                         
                                         oh yeah
                                         
                                         of course
                                         
                                         of course
                                         
    
                                         like that's why I haven't
                                         
                                         like
                                         
                                         I definitely
                                         
                                         but I feel like
                                         
                                         this was like good
                                         
                                         and um
                                         
                                         like when she sent
                                         
                                         the
                                         
    
                                         the
                                         
                                         the
                                         
                                         her verse I was like oh I feel like this is, oh, I feel like this is a super,
                                         
                                         I feel like this is a good rap contender.
                                         
                                         Right, right, right.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Do you feel like too much pressure?
                                         
                                         Everybody asking you to do your second album.
                                         
    
                                         You put out these verses and you're killing these verses.
                                         
                                         You lighten these verses up.
                                         
                                         But everybody keeps saying, I love it, but where's the album?
                                         
                                         I love it, but where's the album?
                                         
                                         Oh, yes.
                                         
                                         Or you put too much pressure on yourself?
                                         
                                         I do put a lot of pressure on myself.
                                         
                                         Like, I really, really do.
                                         
    
                                         Like, let me tell you something.
                                         
                                         Like, I just be feeling like I don't like nothing.
                                         
                                         I hear, I feel like I listen, like, like 40 beats.
                                         
                                         Is it because everything sound the same?
                                         
                                         I don't know if it's because everything sound the same or every, like,
                                         
                                         it's like sometimes everything sound the same.
                                         
                                         And then, like, when it's too different, it's like, all right, like when it's too different it's like all right bitch that's too different for me like that is just too different
                                         
                                         so i don't know what i'll be looking for what i'll be looking for i don't know what it is
                                         
    
                                         yeah but like once like i something catch my eye and i really like no not my eye bitch my sound
                                         
                                         on my ears right but even like i like it like that they said you didn't love it love it and
                                         
                                         that became one of the biggest records ever.
                                         
                                         Huge record.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I mean, I do take risks.
                                         
                                         Like, I do take risks.
                                         
                                         But I don't know.
                                         
    
                                         It's just like a lot of pressure on the bitch.
                                         
                                         But I feel confident.
                                         
                                         I have a lot of songs.
                                         
                                         Y'all could come by anytime.
                                         
                                         Y'all could hear something.
                                         
                                         And that's another thing, too.
                                         
                                         Like, I'm a Libra.
                                         
                                         I be feeling like I need everybody's opinion.
                                         
    
                                         Like, what you think?
                                         
                                         What you think? What you think? And that kind of be driving me crazy, too. But like, I don't know why I be needing thing, too. Like, I'm a Libra. I be feeling like I need, like, everybody's, like, opinion. Like, what you think? What you think?
                                         
                                         What you think?
                                         
                                         And that kind of be driving me crazy, too.
                                         
                                         But, like, I don't know why I be needing it, though.
                                         
                                         So what was the mentality when you was making, like, Gangsta Bitch 1 and 2 back in the day?
                                         
                                         Like, what do you think changed now?
                                         
                                         Just success?
                                         
    
                                         I mean, there wasn't no mentality.
                                         
                                         You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         Like, it just wasn't no mentality.
                                         
                                         It was just, like, me, like, saying what I want to do and everything.
                                         
                                         But, like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. Is it because I'm older? Or I don't know. Is it was just like me like saying what i want to do and everything but like i don't know like i don't know is it because i'm older or i don't know is it because like
                                         
                                         expectation expectations i don't know like it's just like this is like a a job to me now like
                                         
                                         it's like and and i just i just don't like nothing yeah is it fun is it still fun
                                         
                                         it when i find like something that i like when it's something that i like it still fun?
                                         
    
                                         When I find something that I like,
                                         
                                         when it's something that I like, it's fun.
                                         
                                         But then sometimes, even when I like something and people don't like it, it doesn't become fun.
                                         
                                         It's like, damn, I was really vibing with this shit.
                                         
                                         And it's like, I don't like it now.
                                         
                                         Now it's not fun.
                                         
                                         Now I'm mad.
                                         
                                         But people don't like every,
                                         
    
                                         it's like they're gonna find something
                                         
                                         wrong with whatever so it don't matter but i just gotta make sense to you let me ask you this
                                         
                                         is it pressure being because it's a lot of women in rap right now it's the verses when you first
                                         
                                         came out yeah um it's a lot of women is it pressure also on you to to drop music you know like he because he asked pressure about you know
                                         
                                         what you like and you know is it more pressure because it's so many more women now like I don't
                                         
                                         really drop in here and all the time like but it's a lot of y'all now which is great but for y'all
                                         
                                         it's like okay we got this we we got that. Is that pressure?
                                         
                                         It being so many women in rap now?
                                         
    
                                         No, not really.
                                         
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         Like, to me, not really, because it's like, I have my own sound.
                                         
                                         And, like, it's like, I cannot sound like somebody else.
                                         
                                         Like, it's like, I'm never going to do their type of music, because that's just not my sound.
                                         
                                         Like, even when, like, for example, right?
                                         
                                         Like, it's like, I do sometimes drill music.
                                         
                                         Like, I could go to that. But it's like, that's not really me.
                                         
    
                                         So, it's like, I'm not going to feel pressure.
                                         
                                         Like, it's like, oh.
                                         
                                         Talk to the mic, Cardi.
                                         
                                         I know your stomach hurting, but you just talk to the mic.
                                         
                                         You got to lean in.
                                         
                                         Sorry.
                                         
                                         Sorry, my bad.
                                         
                                         Sorry.
                                         
    
                                         No, it's not really, like, it's not pressure like the girls.
                                         
                                         It's pressure like the expectations are on me.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So that's just how I feel for me.
                                         
                                         I always felt like this is the thing, though, right?
                                         
                                         I always worked around a lot of bitches.
                                         
                                         Even in the strip club, right?
                                         
    
                                         There's all type of flavor ass bitches.
                                         
                                         And there was a point when I was a stripper that I only had titties and no ass.
                                         
                                         But I just know that I was unique.
                                         
                                         I just know I was a unique-ass bitch.
                                         
                                         So it's like, there's bitches.
                                         
                                         They thick.
                                         
                                         They skinny.
                                         
                                         They got big titties.
                                         
    
                                         Some bitches is Amazon.
                                         
                                         Some bitches is shorter.
                                         
                                         And it's like, I just know I'm that.
                                         
                                         So it's like, I was going to get money regardless.
                                         
                                         I don't give a fuck.
                                         
                                         How many bitches is in this bitch, bitch? I'm going to get something regardless. I don't give a fuck. Right. How many bitches is in this bitch, bitch?
                                         
                                         I'm going to get something.
                                         
                                         And that's just how I feel like, that's how I feel like now.
                                         
    
                                         Like, I'm so used to, like, working with, like, a lot of women.
                                         
                                         Like, I never, like, been, like, in an environment that's, like, I'm kind of, like, the only one.
                                         
                                         And I always, I always knew this.
                                         
                                         I always knew this.
                                         
                                         I always knew that after me, there was going to be more girls.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I know it wasn't going to just end with me.
                                         
                                         Because if I made it, I know there's going to be more bitches that's going to make it.
                                         
    
                                         And the internet and everything.
                                         
                                         I already saw this.
                                         
                                         I saw this back in, I don't know, 2017. I saw this. But you back in, like, I don't know, like, 2017.
                                         
                                         I saw this.
                                         
                                         But you're also doing something that a lot of people didn't do when you were coming up.
                                         
                                         You'll find the hot new person or a young artist, and you'll give them the opportunity and give them a verse.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Which a lot of people didn't do.
                                         
    
                                         And I was going to ask.
                                         
                                         That was something that Jay and Drake did great.
                                         
                                         I think I say Cardi did that for female rock.
                                         
                                         Yeah, absolutely.
                                         
                                         I was going to ask, does the competition fuel you?
                                         
                                         And it can be friendly competition.
                                         
                                         I mean, every time you get on a verse or you get on a record with somebody,
                                         
                                         is that the way you think?
                                         
    
                                         Like, oh, I got to eat her.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Pause.
                                         
                                         God damn.
                                         
                                         I don't really feel like I got to eat.
                                         
                                         I don't really feel like I got to eat.
                                         
                                         Like, all right, for example, right?
                                         
                                         Like, it's like, if I have a song, right?
                                         
    
                                         And, like, if I have a song, and? And if I have a song, and then you send me your verse,
                                         
                                         and you rap me your ass off, I'm still not changing my verse.
                                         
                                         I'm not changing it because I feel like this is what I'm going for.
                                         
                                         This is what I'm thinking.
                                         
                                         However, I don't want to also never ruin nobody else's song or anything.
                                         
                                         But people do it all the time.
                                         
                                         We've heard, I think Nas said he changed the verse when he got a verse back and you hear it all the time so
                                         
                                         you never said nah i gotta make sure i'm because it's competition it's friendly competition ain't
                                         
    
                                         no you know yeah yeah but i i don't know i because you've been going crazy recently the last
                                         
                                         six records you put out you've been been going like somebody was playing with you.
                                         
                                         Who's been your favorite female rapper to collaborate with?
                                         
                                         I really like them all.
                                         
                                         I really like them all.
                                         
                                         And every song that I got on, I got on it because I just really, really, really, really like that song.
                                         
                                         I love the song.
                                         
                                         And I feel like I can hear myself on it.
                                         
    
                                         There's a lot of
                                         
                                         there's a lot of songs like i get songs sent to me all the time but i feel like it's like some
                                         
                                         songs i just feel like i feel like i can't do nothing for the song like it's like i don't feel
                                         
                                         like i could do like a verse that like i'm like um confident in so it's just like and i just be
                                         
                                         like no and it's like i feel like the song is great so
                                         
                                         i don't even want to like yeah like ruin it you just say you you drill ancient style what's that
                                         
                                         a nod what's that one song that she got with nod it's the girl she go last and i told you
                                         
                                         oh my god that song is so crazy i i heard yeah that is so crazy. I was like, and that's my style.
                                         
    
                                         That's my tempo.
                                         
                                         Because some tempos, I just cannot keep up.
                                         
                                         It's like, you know, when I first heard Munch and everything?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I love the song.
                                         
                                         I love the beat and everything.
                                         
                                         And then I was going to, I was like, you know, doing the remix and everything.
                                         
                                         They said you did a verse, right?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I did a verse.
                                         
                                         But it's like, I felt like I was spiting the fucking beat.
                                         
                                         Like, bitch, I can't breathe. right yeah i did a verse but it's like i feel like i i feel like i was fighting the beat like
                                         
                                         i can't breathe i'm well mended like the beat was just the beat just was there and i was like listen i don't want to up the song yeah because you gotta eat on much like i gotta eat
                                         
                                         yo relax i get it i get it but like i was windmilling and it's like if i can keep up
                                         
                                         with something like it's like i'm not going to play myself.
                                         
                                         And I don't want to ruin it.
                                         
                                         You know when somebody get on a song, and it's like,
                                         
    
                                         bitch, you really fucked this song up.
                                         
                                         Get the fuck out of here.
                                         
                                         Get that bitch out of here now.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         I like how you fucked up Tomorrow.
                                         
                                         Killed Tomorrow.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         Y'all was two in pocket on that.
                                         
    
                                         It was crazy.
                                         
                                         Killed Tomorrow.
                                         
                                         I love.
                                         
                                         I love.
                                         
                                         Glorilla?
                                         
                                         I love Glorilla.
                                         
                                         She remind me of my best friend.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I love her. I love her. I feel my best friend. Yeah. I love her.
                                         
                                         I love her.
                                         
                                         I feel like...
                                         
                                         Cool.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I feel like I got to go.
                                         
                                         Do you think the label makes you do records that you may not necessarily want to do?
                                         
                                         Nobody can make me do shit.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         People can give me recommendations and everything, but it's like nobody can make me do anything.
                                         
                                         I will try something.
                                         
                                         I will try something like I will try something.
                                         
                                         And when I say like I will try something, it's like when they want me to like to like, you know, be a little bit more like, you know, like more feminine or more like, I don't know, like mainstream type of stuff.
                                         
                                         Because like that's just not really be my vibe like that.
                                         
                                         But I know I can make me do shit.
                                         
                                         I was going to ask, you know, you mentioned when you're working in a strip club, do people look at you as the old Cardi all the time?
                                         
                                         Because you got so many friends and you were so many people before the huge rap success.
                                         
    
                                         Sometimes you got to check somebody and be like, look, I'm not that old bitch from back then.
                                         
                                         I'm not that same person.
                                         
                                         I feel like the people that know me know that I haven't really changed.
                                         
                                         I feel like I could call my friends right now and be like, like the people that know me know that I haven't really changed. Like, like I feel like I could call my friends right now.
                                         
                                         I was like, girl, bye.
                                         
                                         I feel like I haven't like really changed like that way, but I feel like to the world.
                                         
                                         I feel like to the world, like I wonder if people have seen that change.
                                         
                                         I feel like I changed.
                                         
    
                                         I'm like more like chill now.
                                         
                                         Like I could like back then I could be all day cussing everybody out, but it's like,
                                         
                                         I just have like backed away more and I got kids and shit and I'm 30 like yeah I'm 30 like by five o'clock I
                                         
                                         need a little nap that's one thing that's one thing I say that it looks like you love it's like
                                         
                                         you know you see so many people with with their kids right but you are like a mom's mom right
                                         
                                         I'll see Cardi at the amusement park with the kids getting on rides. I see Cardi making the kids lunch.
                                         
                                         I see Cardi, you know, doing things that you usually don't see people do.
                                         
                                         Why are you so like that with your kids?
                                         
    
                                         Because, I mean, you're rich.
                                         
                                         You got help.
                                         
                                         You got people that can do that.
                                         
                                         But you do it.
                                         
                                         Because, like I said, you just have to.
                                         
                                         Listen, you can have a village in your house, right?
                                         
                                         Like I said, I have all the Dominicans in my house.
                                         
                                         Is your country falling apart?
                                         
    
                                         Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary?
                                         
                                         Consider this. Start your own country.
                                         
                                         I planted the flag.
                                         
                                         I just kind of looked out of, like, this is mine.
                                         
                                         I own this.
                                         
                                         It's surprisingly easy.
                                         
                                         There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
                                         
                                         Everybody's doing it.
                                         
    
                                         I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
                                         
                                         I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia.
                                         
                                         I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg.
                                         
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                                         Be part of a great colonial tradition.
                                         
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                                         My forefathers did that themselves.
                                         
                                         What could go wrong?
                                         
    
                                         No country willingly gives up their territory.
                                         
                                         I was making a rocket with a black powder,
                                         
                                         you know, with explosive warhead.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         What is that?
                                         
                                         Bullets.
                                         
                                         Bullets.
                                         
                                         We need help!
                                         
    
                                         We still have the off-road portion to go.
                                         
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                                         James Brown, B.B. King,
                                         
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                                         Right.
                                         
                                         I got them all, but it's like your kids be wanting
                                         
                                         you
                                         
    
                                         they want you
                                         
                                         they don't want
                                         
                                         they don't want your aunt
                                         
                                         to take them to school
                                         
                                         they don't want nothing
                                         
                                         they want mom and dad
                                         
                                         to take them to school
                                         
                                         they want like
                                         
    
                                         they want to chill
                                         
                                         with mom and dad
                                         
                                         they want to play
                                         
                                         with mom and dad
                                         
                                         so it's just like
                                         
                                         you have to do it yourself
                                         
                                         and then like
                                         
                                         you just have to do it
                                         
    
                                         you gotta get used to a rhythm
                                         
                                         like
                                         
                                         it's like
                                         
                                         my family
                                         
                                         a lot of them live with me, but they love to be outside.
                                         
                                         So when they do vacation and everything, and it's like I'm by myself with the kids,
                                         
                                         it's like, damn, I don't really know what they're going to want to eat and everything.
                                         
                                         So I got to get used to that.
                                         
    
                                         And I really just naturally like it.
                                         
                                         I like this.
                                         
                                         If I could just do this forever, I would.
                                         
                                         But a bitch gotta
                                         
                                         work is that you think that's the biggest change that has happened in your life over the last five
                                         
                                         years the kids hell yeah okay just motherhood period yeah because it's like i'll be feeling
                                         
                                         like like i got a lot to lose before like fuck yeah i'm fuck i'm diving in i lose every at all
                                         
                                         yeah i lose it all but i'm gonna curse you out you out, bitch. How is it being a boss with everybody
                                         
    
                                         but then when your kids, they boss
                                         
                                         you around? I seen some video and your kids was talking
                                         
                                         to you crazy. There's nothing you can do when your kids talk to you crazy. You just got to
                                         
                                         take it.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Watch your mouth.
                                         
                                         You believe in pop-pop and the kids?
                                         
                                         Or no? You believe in physical discipline for your kids?
                                         
    
                                         Light, though.
                                         
                                         Light.
                                         
                                         Real light.
                                         
                                         Light, you know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         But, like, not, like...
                                         
                                         Gentle parenting sometimes?
                                         
                                         Gentle parenting, I mean, it depends.
                                         
                                         Because I feel like I'm a gentle parent, but then there's that, you know, the Hellman's
                                         
    
                                         gentle parent.
                                         
                                         Mm-hmm.
                                         
                                         Hellman's gentle parent.
                                         
                                         And they, like, they overboard, like, gentle parents. Hellman's gentle parents. And they like, they overboard
                                         
                                         like gentle parenting.
                                         
                                         Some kids just,
                                         
                                         I just believe
                                         
                                         they're like,
                                         
    
                                         you don't have to be like
                                         
                                         abusive or anything.
                                         
                                         But it's like,
                                         
                                         you gotta like be assertive
                                         
                                         because like,
                                         
                                         like not everybody kid
                                         
                                         is like everybody kid.
                                         
                                         Like my son bad as fuck.
                                         
    
                                         I got proof,
                                         
                                         he bad.
                                         
                                         I got proof. I got proof he bad. got proof I got proof he bad how old is he he just
                                         
                                         turned two yeah he don't know no better what I show you videos he bad as hell yeah he bad even
                                         
                                         also be like damn I don't want my kids yeah and I knew it too that's why I was scared to have a boy
                                         
                                         because I was like I knew it too it could be terrible tools though. Yeah. He was one. He just turned two.
                                         
                                         How you bad at one?
                                         
                                         So what do you do to discipline him?
                                         
    
                                         Like what is he afraid of?
                                         
                                         He's not afraid of nothing.
                                         
                                         Damn.
                                         
                                         That's the problem.
                                         
                                         You can take from him or take his tablet or something.
                                         
                                         Nothing?
                                         
                                         No, he don't care about nothing.
                                         
                                         Like even if you take it, it's like, all right.
                                         
    
                                         Don't mess with today then.
                                         
                                         Why do you let the comments
                                         
                                         get to you so much body
                                         
                                         just on social media
                                         
                                         and just like everything
                                         
                                         I don't know
                                         
                                         because it's like
                                         
                                         bitch I know you not
                                         
    
                                         fucking talking
                                         
                                         that's the thing
                                         
                                         that like the shit
                                         
                                         that get me mad
                                         
                                         is that like
                                         
                                         cause it's like bitch
                                         
                                         why are you talking though
                                         
                                         like what are you
                                         
    
                                         why are you talking
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         why are you talking
                                         
                                         like it's like like it you talking like it's like
                                         
                                         like it's like like it's like you know like i don't know like when i was like in like in
                                         
                                         school or anything like i used to cut ass like i used to fight no no no like i used to like really
                                         
                                         rose rose like i like like it's like it's not even like roasting bitches it was like
                                         
                                         i could go toe-to-toe with with uh with like It was just things. So it's like me, I'm the type of person that I could take one look,
                                         
    
                                         one look at you, and I got like 10 jokes lined the fuck up.
                                         
                                         So it's just like when people mess with me,
                                         
                                         it's like, yo, I could really, really mess with you.
                                         
                                         You want to mess my day up, bitch?
                                         
                                         I will mess your fucking whole three weeks up.
                                         
                                         I will stay embedded in your head.
                                         
                                         So it's just like the fact that I have to restrain myself it frustrates me it really frustrates me so when you put out
                                         
                                         projects right when you put out music do you go through the comments to see what people are saying
                                         
    
                                         yeah yeah yeah yeah because sometimes it's like bitch no but you gotta also know what people like
                                         
                                         but they're never gonna give you a real critique though because they just mad that you
                                         
                                         body and you're super successful so how many people gonna really be like oh i fuck this right how many people gonna really give it up on social
                                         
                                         media yeah you know what i'll be feeling i'll be feeling like a lot of people
                                         
                                         hate to admit that they like me and like a lot of people are afraid to say that they like me because
                                         
                                         when people say that they like me, they get attacked.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         They be getting attacked when they say that they like me or they, like, they take my side or anything.
                                         
    
                                         So, I have to accept that.
                                         
                                         That, like, people, like, like me.
                                         
                                         And there's even people that, like, I've seen comment nasty shit about me.
                                         
                                         And, like, some of my friends have pressed them about them.
                                         
                                         Like, when they say, like, why you be going so hard on my girl and it's like i don't
                                         
                                         know i really do like her though like like like i i just feel like i hate that and it's like bitch
                                         
                                         i hate that why do you have to go that route for it yeah i really like like matter of fact i'm gonna
                                         
                                         give you i'm gonna give you i'm gonna give you an example right there's some there's a there's a
                                         
    
                                         there's a bitch right i don't even fucking know her but one of my friends know her and it's like
                                         
                                         yo why this girl got so much issues with you and i'm like i don't even i don't even fucking know her, but one of my friends know her. And it's like, yo, why this girl got so much issues with you?
                                         
                                         And I'm like, I don't even know this girl.
                                         
                                         We're not even from the same city.
                                         
                                         She got so much shit to say about me,
                                         
                                         but she always copying my birthday looks.
                                         
                                         She got money to do that?
                                         
                                         For real?
                                         
    
                                         Oh, so it must be somebody we know.
                                         
                                         I mean, she does the Sheen version, but it's like...
                                         
                                         The Sheen version. How you don't like me? For real? Oh, so it must be somebody we know. I mean, she does the she version, but it's like...
                                         
                                         The she version.
                                         
                                         How you don't like me?
                                         
                                         You like me.
                                         
                                         I feel like I have people be afraid of it.
                                         
                                         It's the haters are confused admirers.
                                         
    
                                         That's all.
                                         
                                         I just don't want that to affect you and your art.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Or your mental.
                                         
                                         I feel like I'm already getting over that hurdle.
                                         
                                         As long as motherfuckers
                                         
                                         don't lie on me
                                         
                                         like
                                         
    
                                         that's the internet
                                         
                                         they gonna do that too
                                         
                                         it's alright
                                         
                                         as long as people
                                         
                                         don't lie on me
                                         
                                         like it's okay
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         but I do notice too
                                         
    
                                         I do notice too
                                         
                                         because I saw
                                         
                                         like I seen people
                                         
                                         admitting
                                         
                                         I seen
                                         
                                         I seen trolls
                                         
                                         admit
                                         
                                         that they like to
                                         
    
                                         throw people
                                         
                                         into suicide
                                         
                                         there was a
                                         
                                         I seen it I see it on Twitter.
                                         
                                         Like my fans know what I'm talking about.
                                         
                                         Like I seen trolls admit that like,
                                         
                                         like it's like, yeah, we're gonna get that bitch
                                         
                                         until she wanna kill herself.
                                         
    
                                         They really do that.
                                         
                                         So it's like, nah bitch,
                                         
                                         you ain't gonna get that power over me bitch.
                                         
                                         You're gonna have to die first bitch.
                                         
                                         You die first hoe.
                                         
                                         How miserable you gotta be to think like that? There's a lot of miserable people out there. Oh that mercy. Now do you're gonna have to die first bitch you die first hoe i'm miserable you gotta be to think like that there's a lot of miserable people out there oh that mercy now
                                         
                                         do you regret throwing that microphone at that young lady it was really like a quick reaction
                                         
                                         it was really like and let me tell you mother i didn't want to address it because i thought
                                         
    
                                         bitch was gonna go to jail but i'm not i didn't really not because motherfuckers People was making Their own shit like Let me tell you something right
                                         
                                         It was hot as fuck
                                         
                                         That Vegas heat
                                         
                                         Ain't no
                                         
                                         It was hot
                                         
                                         It was hotter than a motherfucker
                                         
                                         So there was a part
                                         
                                         Of the show
                                         
    
                                         That I told people like
                                         
                                         You know splash me
                                         
                                         But even when I told them
                                         
                                         Splash me
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         Be careful with the face
                                         
                                         The face is beat bitch
                                         
                                         So
                                         
    
                                         Fucking four songs after Nobody had splash me I told y'all to splash me for one
                                         
                                         little second four songs after which is like i don't know 15 20 minutes after this bitch threw
                                         
                                         water and ice on my face so like it i just automatically reacted i didn't even know that
                                         
                                         i was throwing it at the i just threw this shit because it's like bitch you hit me right in my
                                         
                                         face and and and when i look at the video it's like bitch you hit me right in my face and when I look
                                         
                                         at the video
                                         
                                         it's like
                                         
                                         nah you intended
                                         
    
                                         to throw that shit
                                         
                                         in my face
                                         
                                         because you didn't
                                         
                                         did it like this
                                         
                                         you threw it
                                         
                                         like and that shit
                                         
                                         had ice
                                         
                                         and everybody's like
                                         
    
                                         no bitch
                                         
                                         you fucking throw
                                         
                                         some ice in your
                                         
                                         motherfucking face bitch
                                         
                                         and you gonna tell me
                                         
                                         how the fuck you feel bitch
                                         
                                         because I felt
                                         
                                         very violated
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         did you forget you
                                         
                                         had told people
                                         
                                         to splash you no but it was but it was it was it was in a segment though it was in one segment
                                         
                                         like girl you did that shit like fucking 20 minutes later bitch and not only that you threw
                                         
                                         me fucking ice bitch like don't fucking motherfucking if it if it wasn't ice in it it
                                         
                                         would have went different it would it would It probably wouldn't even be different because you splashed me in my face.
                                         
                                         Like, you know what you was doing.
                                         
    
                                         How the fuck 10 people splashed me at the same time and nothing hit my face?
                                         
                                         But, bitch, you hit my face directly, bitch.
                                         
                                         One of the moments.
                                         
                                         I think you were a fan, though.
                                         
                                         No, no.
                                         
                                         You was trying to be funny, bitch.
                                         
                                         You was trying to be funny. But you was trying to be funny but bitch i'm hilarious though
                                         
                                         i bet you know so well first of all how was marriage how was that how are you loving marriage
                                         
    
                                         love it i love marriage is it difficult because you know he's a celebrity and you're a celebrity
                                         
                                         and it's like when he defends you it's bigger because he is a celebrity and you're a celebrity, and it's like, when he defends you, it's bigger, because he is a celebrity.
                                         
                                         So if somebody says something and he defends you,
                                         
                                         it's bigger because it's set.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Does that bother you?
                                         
                                         Does that take a toll on your marriage relationship?
                                         
                                         You know what takes a toll on me?
                                         
    
                                         What takes a toll on me really is because, like,
                                         
                                         a lot of people don like people don't fucking a lot of people
                                         
                                         don't fucking like me
                                         
                                         so when people
                                         
                                         attack him
                                         
                                         because he's like
                                         
                                         attached to me
                                         
                                         I don't like that shit
                                         
    
                                         like it's just like
                                         
                                         I feel like
                                         
                                         it's like
                                         
                                         oh my gosh
                                         
                                         but um
                                         
                                         other than that
                                         
                                         like I love being married
                                         
                                         and like
                                         
    
                                         we are a partnership
                                         
                                         like you know
                                         
                                         y'all know what it is
                                         
                                         like to be married
                                         
                                         and it's just like
                                         
                                         it feels different like it, it feels different.
                                         
                                         Like, it just, it feels different than like a relationship.
                                         
                                         It just really feel like a union.
                                         
    
                                         It's like, I got your back.
                                         
                                         You got my back.
                                         
                                         No matter what.
                                         
                                         No matter the bullshit.
                                         
                                         Do y'all feel like y'all share too much?
                                         
                                         Because y'all a beef.
                                         
                                         And then the world hate both of y'all.
                                         
                                         And then a day later, y'all back together holding hands. That's the only good thing, go to social media. Do you feel like y'all and then a day later y'all back together hold
                                         
    
                                         the hands that's the only good that goes to social media do you feel like y'all share too
                                         
                                         much on social media it was just one time it was just that was crazy that was great it was just
                                         
                                         one time because motherfuckers was was was gone we was drunk popping shit like i bitch
                                         
                                         are you you you gonna do that i do that oh no bitch I'ma beat you to it Oh shit
                                         
                                         You really dipping me to it bitch
                                         
                                         Now you're stupid bitch
                                         
                                         Now I'ma really violate you
                                         
                                         So hold on
                                         
    
                                         He said that to you
                                         
                                         He's like
                                         
                                         I'ma get on 9
                                         
                                         And tell people
                                         
                                         You cheated on me
                                         
                                         And I don't understand
                                         
                                         Why he even said that
                                         
                                         He know he was
                                         
    
                                         That had to come from someplace
                                         
                                         Did it come from someplace
                                         
                                         He told you where it came from
                                         
                                         So y'all was just arguing
                                         
                                         You was just arguing And they was talking shit to him.
                                         
                                         And they was just arguing.
                                         
                                         So you told him that and you was playing?
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
    
                                         I never told him that.
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         I never told him that.
                                         
                                         So why'd he do that?
                                         
                                         What was y'all drinking?
                                         
                                         I don't drink that shit.
                                         
                                         You don't drink anywhere.
                                         
                                         I'm a Henny girl.
                                         
    
                                         He's a Casamigo guy.
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         Okay, okay, okay.
                                         
                                         But we was just, it was just heated.
                                         
                                         And then you explained it.
                                         
                                         Cardi goes, how could I cheat?
                                         
                                         I can never go anywhere with anybody. And then you explained it. Cardi goes, how could I cheat? I can never go anywhere with anybody.
                                         
                                         Y'all explained it.
                                         
    
                                         And then the next day, y'all in Paris holding hands at a fashion show.
                                         
                                         I'm like, this is the Bronx.
                                         
                                         This is the Bronx, love.
                                         
                                         We ghetto.
                                         
                                         We really, really ghetto.
                                         
                                         I ain't going far.
                                         
                                         Everybody just be like, oh, we be trying to be perfect.
                                         
                                         I ain't going far.
                                         
    
                                         We ghetto.
                                         
                                         You always want to be married young? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I always wanted to be perfect. I ain't going for fun. Like, we ghetto. Woo! You always want to be married young?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I always wanted to be married.
                                         
                                         Like, I always wanted to be married.
                                         
                                         I always felt like everybody wanted, like, the marriage and the kids and everything.
                                         
    
                                         I just really couldn't believe I got it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I feel like there's a number for Cardi.
                                         
                                         If Cardi get a certain amount of money, she walking away from all this shit.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         You don't think so?
                                         
                                         From music?
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         No, no. Like, I feel like music is just like the engine like i i just love it like i feel like
                                         
                                         i feel like uh like if i have like a product and it like makes me like like rich and everything
                                         
                                         or like crazy like i mean i'm ready right i'm talking about rich rich rich everything like
                                         
                                         it's just like i i enjoy though like doing like, doing music. Like, I enjoy performing for real.
                                         
                                         Like, I love to perform.
                                         
                                         Like, I'm a visual distributor.
                                         
                                         Like, I just love to be out there.
                                         
                                         Like, I get, like, a rush.
                                         
    
                                         And it's like, you can't perform if you don't really have music.
                                         
                                         So I have to always do music.
                                         
                                         I love doing music.
                                         
                                         It's just sometimes, it's just like, this, like, feels like a job now.
                                         
                                         So it's just like, and so much pressure just drive you crazy.
                                         
                                         I just want to be in that state where i was like in 2016 2017 2018 where it was just like ah yeah
                                         
                                         excitement what made you walk away from that movie that you were supposed to star in
                                         
                                         the music the album the this the that yeah and it was just too, oh, my God, I did not like doing like movies and everything.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah. It's really like a 10 a.m. to like 1 a.m. type of shit.
                                         
                                         Yes, Cardi. Yep. Oh, my God. So it's like it's really like a job, like a job, job, job.
                                         
                                         Like like like when I do music and like when I perform, like it's like a rush, like it's like a fun rush.
                                         
                                         Like this is. Is your country falling apart?
                                         
                                         Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary?
                                         
                                         Consider this. Start your own country.
                                         
                                         I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this.
                                         
                                         It's surprisingly easy.
                                         
    
                                         There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
                                         
                                         Everybody's doing it.
                                         
                                         I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
                                         
                                         I am the Queen of Ladonia.
                                         
                                         I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg.
                                         
                                         I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
                                         
                                         Be part of a great colonial tradition.
                                         
                                         The Waikana tried my country.
                                         
    
                                         My forefathers did that themselves.
                                         
                                         What could go wrong?
                                         
                                         No country willingly gives up their territory.
                                         
                                         I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warheads.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         What is that? Bullets.
                                         
                                         Bullets. We need help. We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
                                         
                                         And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app,
                                         
    
                                         Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into
                                         
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                                         What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on
                                         
                                         with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly
                                         
                                         podcast. Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy
                                         
                                         with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records,
                                         
                                         Nimany, to tell you all about it.
                                         
                                         Make sure you check it out.
                                         
                                         Hey, y'all. Nimany here.
                                         
    
                                         I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast
                                         
                                         for kids and families called Historical Records.
                                         
                                         Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.
                                         
                                         Flash, slam, another one gone Bash, bam, another one gone brings history to life through hip-hop.
                                         
                                         Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history,
                                         
                                         like this one about Claudette Colvin,
                                         
                                         a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus
                                         
                                         nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing.
                                         
    
                                         Check it.
                                         
                                         Get the kids in your life excited about history
                                         
                                         by tuning in to Historical Records.
                                         
                                         Because in order to make history,
                                         
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                                         Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
                                         
                                         podcasts. Hey, what's up? This is Ramses Jha. And I go by the name Q Ward. And we'd like you to join
                                         
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                                         Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, B.B. King, Miriam Akiba.
                                         
                                         I shook up the world.
                                         
                                         James Brown said, say it loud. And the kid said, I'm black and I'm proud.
                                         
                                         Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa.
                                         
                                         Three days of music and then the boxing event.
                                         
                                         What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet.
                                         
    
                                         My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out.
                                         
                                         Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation.
                                         
                                         The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black.
                                         
                                         And how we arrived at this peak moment.
                                         
                                         I don't have to be what you want me to be.
                                         
                                         We all came from the continent of Africa.
                                         
                                         Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
                                         
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                                         Really, like, it's intense.
                                         
                                         Hurry up and wait, that's what they say.
                                         
                                         Yeah, hurry up and wait.
                                         
                                         But it's all worth it when the film come out and you see, you know, you see yourself and shit. It's intense. Hurry up and wait. That's what they say. Hurry up and wait. But it's all worth it when the film come out
                                         
                                         and you see,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         you see yourself and shit.
                                         
                                         It is worth it.
                                         
    
                                         It is,
                                         
                                         but shit.
                                         
                                         And like,
                                         
                                         the,
                                         
                                         um,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         like I was like,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
    
                                         taking acting lessons
                                         
                                         and everything.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         it's like,
                                         
                                         I had one struggle
                                         
                                         and it was to cry.
                                         
                                         Like my teacher was like,
                                         
                                         like my teacher was like,
                                         
    
                                         think of the time like that you went through this, this,
                                         
                                         and that, I'm like,
                                         
                                         I don't feel nothing.
                                         
                                         When's the last time you cried for real?
                                         
                                         Yeah, real life.
                                         
                                         I mean, I be crying, you know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         I be crying, but it's just like-
                                         
                                         Like on the spot.
                                         
    
                                         Like on the spot, like I'ma laugh.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         But I always thought TV and film, that was a given for you.
                                         
                                         Like I always saw you in that space.
                                         
                                         I'm good at being myself.
                                         
                                         Like I'm good at being myself.
                                         
                                         You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         But like it's like, why you did this to me?
                                         
    
                                         Yes. All you got gotta do is not laugh.
                                         
                                         You start laughing.
                                         
                                         All you gotta do is not laugh.
                                         
                                         It's hard, but I'ma get it. I gotta get it.
                                         
                                         You're not gonna do it?
                                         
                                         I am gonna do it. As soon as I go
                                         
                                         touring and everything and all that stuff,
                                         
                                         I gotta do it.
                                         
    
                                         Four years from now.
                                         
                                         No, I swear to God, it's not going to be four years.
                                         
                                         It's been five since Invasion of the Proud.
                                         
                                         She said next year.
                                         
                                         I have no choice. I have no choice.
                                         
                                         I like it though. I don't think you should rush to put out another album. I think you did it right,
                                         
                                         putting out the singles, the features. I know the label might tell you a little while, but...
                                         
                                         Yeah, but it's not even about rushing. I really, really, really, really do have a body of work.
                                         
    
                                         How many though?
                                         
                                         I have a lot. I got like a lot of songs i just like gotta go through all of them do
                                         
                                         you have the name for the album yet no um kind of sort of yeah kind of sort of i don't know like
                                         
                                         i don't know if i like it too much what is it yeah tell us i can't well i can't tell you because
                                         
                                         you imagine if i pick it if i pick it throw it out there oh no you can't you can't just throw
                                         
                                         it out there let me see if we like it throw it out there we'll bleep it we'll bleep it no you can't you can't just throw it out there. Let me see if we like it
                                         
                                         We'll bleep it. No, I can't say I was gonna say don't believe I said don't believe I'm calling
                                         
                                         How does cardi feel about this the state of female rap overall? Everybody said this has been the year of women rappers. Yeah, I
                                         
    
                                         Feel like I've been you that this was gonna happen. I've been knew that this was gonna happen. I been knew that this was gonna happen. I been knew it.
                                         
                                         Raven Baxter, nigga.
                                         
                                         Vision.
                                         
                                         I been knew it.
                                         
                                         We live in the world of the internet.
                                         
                                         It's easier to get discovered.
                                         
                                         I already knew that this was gonna happen.
                                         
                                         What do you think about guys when they say,
                                         
    
                                         like, you know, you heard Fab and JD.
                                         
                                         Like, JD, I think, said it was stripper rap.
                                         
                                         And Fab said all the women are rapping about the same thing,
                                         
                                         which is sex and stuff like that.
                                         
                                         What do you think about those type of criticisms?
                                         
                                         I really don't be liking that shit because it's like when,
                                         
                                         like, let me tell you something.
                                         
                                         When we rap about something,
                                         
    
                                         I know it's like motherfuckers just don't really want to hear it like that.
                                         
                                         Like, they do want to hear it,
                                         
                                         but it's like,
                                         
                                         and it's like,
                                         
                                         that's what I want to talk about.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         I don't care,
                                         
                                         you're not,
                                         
    
                                         like,
                                         
                                         like,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         that fucked me up one time.
                                         
                                         That really fucked me up one time.
                                         
                                         I ain't gonna lie to y'all
                                         
                                         because everybody was like,
                                         
                                         trying to make me feel that,
                                         
    
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         motherfuckers trying to trick me
                                         
                                         out of my game.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And that's what they do.
                                         
                                         They like to trick you out your game. you know what I'm saying like it's like
                                         
                                         oh we wanna
                                         
                                         are we so tired
                                         
    
                                         of you talking about the same subject
                                         
                                         you keep doing this type of music
                                         
                                         that type of music but then I put a certain
                                         
                                         type of music
                                         
                                         out a certain type of sound
                                         
                                         and motherfuckers didn't even like it so I'm like
                                         
                                         and then after
                                         
                                         what record was that? Kanye record?
                                         
    
                                         It was, it was, it was hot shit.
                                         
                                         And it was like a track song that I had for a movie.
                                         
                                         And even like the song for DJ Khaled.
                                         
                                         Like people was fucking flaming my ass for it.
                                         
                                         Who the fuck ain't like hot shit?
                                         
                                         A lot of people.
                                         
                                         A lot of people.
                                         
                                         Like I was, I was surprised because I did like them myself.
                                         
    
                                         And it's like, this is what I'm saying. Like, it's like people be trying to like, like take you out your game. A lot of people. I was surprised because I did like them myself.
                                         
                                         And it's like, this is what I'm saying.
                                         
                                         It's like people be trying to take you out your game and then they start doing what you do.
                                         
                                         And then it's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
                                         
                                         And it's like, you see?
                                         
                                         No, fuck that.
                                         
                                         I'm going to do what I want.
                                         
                                         You just have to do what you want.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You know, I was going to ask,
                                         
                                         we've seen Offset and Quavo come back together on BET.
                                         
                                         Beautiful moment. Before that, we've seen a video of them arguing. to ask you know we seen offset and quavo come back together on bt beautiful moment before that
                                         
                                         we seen a video of them arguing you was in the middle saying y'all brothers y'all brothers i
                                         
                                         need to stop how um how difficult was that in the household trying to get them to understand that
                                         
                                         they're brothers because you were in the middle of that you know and you weren't taking sides
                                         
                                         during that argument you were just screaming yo y'all are brothers, get it together. How difficult was that for your household and for you?
                                         
    
                                         I just really like to stay away
                                         
                                         from
                                         
                                         nigga business.
                                         
                                         You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         Especially when
                                         
                                         y'all have
                                         
                                         a really, really long
                                         
                                         history. Not just music history.
                                         
    
                                         Y'all know each other your whole life.
                                         
                                         I always just like to step step back i always want like unity always always always
                                         
                                         all the time so i just didn't i ain't really wanting to say that i'm i'm i'm really like
                                         
                                         amigos fan like i'm really a amigos fan i'm like a fan of them for real like i'm a fan of everything of them so um and like
                                         
                                         they you know like when like when people like like people inspire you but like in 2017 when i started
                                         
                                         like you know fucking around with offset and everything they really like inspired me more
                                         
                                         because there was like things that i've never seen like i felt like I was like, like, like when I was like in 2017, I just
                                         
                                         felt like it's like, damn, a lot of people have turned me down.
                                         
    
                                         Labels have like shut my shit down.
                                         
                                         But it's like, it's cool.
                                         
                                         Like the music that I'm doing is I'm doing all right.
                                         
                                         I'm getting paid $20,000 to perform.
                                         
                                         Like I'm doing this.
                                         
                                         When I started dating Offset and I see that they're like performing in arenas and I'm
                                         
                                         seeing that they're getting not fucking twenty thousand they're getting hundreds of thousand dollars and they
                                         
                                         buying jewelry every day and it's like no I was trying like to be
                                         
    
                                         like in a good space that does not even so they like inspire me and like a lot of their swag like inspire me too
                                         
                                         so I'm just like a fan
                                         
                                         of all of it
                                         
                                         so I always feel like
                                         
                                         as a woman
                                         
                                         you need to stay out of like
                                         
                                         man business
                                         
                                         all the time
                                         
    
                                         like just stay away from me
                                         
                                         you didn't stay out of it
                                         
                                         that night though
                                         
                                         practically I did
                                         
                                         when you was telling them
                                         
                                         when you were telling them
                                         
                                         your brothers
                                         
                                         your brothers
                                         
    
                                         I just did what I just oh my god yeah you was just like I like to stay away from that shit all the time I did when you were telling them you
                                         
                                         Yeah, you were just like
                                         
                                         Well, they actually tussling oh, it's just like some words
                                         
                                         How did you help offset through the grieving process are you still helping them do it
                                         
                                         It's hard. Yeah. I don't even wanna talk about it.
                                         
                                         I can understand.
                                         
                                         I get it.
                                         
                                         I don't know why you went there.
                                         
    
                                         You just brought everything down.
                                         
                                         I was talking about it, man.
                                         
                                         Damn.
                                         
                                         I'm hella sad.
                                         
                                         Jesus Christ.
                                         
                                         I'm talking about it.
                                         
                                         What's next for Ms. Bardi?
                                         
                                         Everything.
                                         
    
                                         I'm back to work.
                                         
                                         We don't believe you.
                                         
                                         I swear to God.
                                         
                                         You done had so many big records that hit number one
                                         
                                         that we thought this album was coming.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but, oh my gosh.
                                         
                                         Like, we went through like a whole pandemic.
                                         
                                         Like, give me a break.
                                         
    
                                         You dropped the number one record during the pandemic.
                                         
                                         Easily.
                                         
                                         And you had mad time during the pandemic.
                                         
                                         I was racing.
                                         
                                         Niggas got like, you know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         You had time.
                                         
                                         I really didn't want to drop an album around the pandemic because I really wanted a tour right after.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         I wasn't able to tour right
                                         
                                         after um my first album like I I could even do a lot of music videos because I was like pregnant
                                         
                                         and everything like I want to like drop my album and be able to go touring right away so that that
                                         
                                         was that then I had a baby then I just like was just going through like a you know I was just
                                         
                                         yeah chilling but now it's just like, I'm back outside.
                                         
                                         And you got an album dropping next year.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         What quarter, Barty?
                                         
    
                                         What quarter?
                                         
                                         What season?
                                         
                                         I'm really looking for first quarter.
                                         
                                         You think so?
                                         
                                         How you going to narrow it down?
                                         
                                         How many records you think you got?
                                         
                                         I want to narrow it down to at least like 18, 20.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Spring, summer.
                                         
                                         Are you there?
                                         
                                         Are you close?
                                         
                                         Hey, yo, shut up.
                                         
                                         It's spring, summer.
                                         
                                         You don't have to drop a second album, though.
                                         
    
                                         You don't have to put out an album.
                                         
                                         But I have it.
                                         
                                         She wants to go on tour.
                                         
                                         I have it.
                                         
                                         She do.
                                         
                                         I have it.
                                         
                                         I have it.
                                         
                                         You don't believe her?
                                         
    
                                         I mean, I believe she got a song. I believe she got a bunch of songs. Yeah. No, but I have it, though. I have it. I have it. You don't believe her? I mean, I believe she got a song.
                                         
                                         I believe she got a bunch of songs.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         No, but I have it, though.
                                         
                                         I have it.
                                         
                                         You have that?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I have my vision and everything.
                                         
    
                                         You know what you want to do?
                                         
                                         I know what I want and everything.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Cardi, your fashion.
                                         
                                         We not getting in line?
                                         
                                         Your fashion is crazy.
                                         
                                         You just say bitches be copying you when they be trying shit on you,
                                         
                                         then copy you.
                                         
    
                                         You got to give them something to buy. I'm gonna give them i'm gonna give them a little sign sign
                                         
                                         you had a line at one time right huh you had a line with um
                                         
                                         no it was it was like i thought fashion nova was yours for one second
                                         
                                         oh here it come oh god damn i heard it too no you didn't i heard it. I took the camera, picked it up, farted.
                                         
                                         They're going to be calling you farty.
                                         
                                         Farty.
                                         
                                         Farty.
                                         
                                         Stupid.
                                         
    
                                         Yo.
                                         
                                         Man, get Cardi out of here before she have an accident.
                                         
                                         Hold on.
                                         
                                         Whip shot, though.
                                         
                                         Nah, whip shot.
                                         
                                         Like the bitches hit me.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you saw it. You drinking coffee the whole interview.
                                         
                                         No, that's not.
                                         
    
                                         That's in your house.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay, okay, okay.
                                         
                                         No coffee.
                                         
                                         She said she drunk coffee yesterday.
                                         
                                         We got bathrooms in here.
                                         
                                         Your eyes watering.
                                         
                                         In the interview, man.
                                         
                                         She just said whip shots.
                                         
    
                                         You wanted to talk about the whip shots.
                                         
                                         The whip shots is up here.
                                         
                                         That's the last thing.
                                         
                                         I wouldn't know if she was getting a clothing line because her fashion,'s still on point with the fashion but anyway whip shots i love how it's no dairy
                                         
                                         i love how it's vodka yo she gotta go get the lights i love how it's yeah
                                         
                                         now like it's not like it's not playing it's not playing like it's like it's like
                                         
                                         not there it's like still here i need it like you know women always say they're
                                         
                                         forced on stinking.
                                         
    
                                         That's a goddamn lie.
                                         
                                         Who the fuck?
                                         
                                         I ain't the woman that said that.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         But no, I'm not even.
                                         
                                         But that's not.
                                         
                                         That's the thing.
                                         
                                         I'm not even gassy.
                                         
    
                                         It's just like really like hurting.
                                         
                                         Like it's just hurting.
                                         
                                         Like it's like developing.
                                         
                                         It's like making itself.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's developing?
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's like developing.
                                         
                                         It develops.
                                         
    
                                         It develops.
                                         
                                         A baby.
                                         
                                         I'm going to give you this juice give you this like it's making itself like
                                         
                                         the bitch is becoming a smoothie right now but it's just like still not there ladies and gentlemen
                                         
                                         can we get into the record again one more time let's play oh yeah yeah i respect it you sat
                                         
                                         here for a whole hour and had this shit i respect that a hour has passed how long it been about 45
                                         
                                         minutes 45 minutes no way 45 minutes you know the first time 15 minutes. No way. It's been like 15 minutes.
                                         
                                         45 minutes.
                                         
    
                                         You know,
                                         
                                         the first time
                                         
                                         Barty came up here,
                                         
                                         she went to McDonald's.
                                         
                                         Second time,
                                         
                                         she went to the
                                         
                                         Bacon, Egg, and Cheese.
                                         
                                         Oh my gosh,
                                         
    
                                         I can't even
                                         
                                         think about that right now.
                                         
                                         Maybe it's a sign
                                         
                                         that you about to
                                         
                                         shit on these people.
                                         
                                         You about to
                                         
                                         shit on them again,
                                         
                                         Barty.
                                         
    
                                         I want to shit right now.
                                         
                                         Let's let Barty go,
                                         
                                         y'all.
                                         
                                         Ladies and gentlemen,
                                         
                                         Cardi B,
                                         
                                         the record,
                                         
                                         let's get in the
                                         
                                         bongos right now.
                                         
    
                                         It's featuring Megan Thee Stallion.
                                         
                                         And we love you, Barty.
                                         
                                         I love you.
                                         
                                         I love you.
                                         
                                         Man, somebody find Barty a toilet.
                                         
                                         She's stressed out.
                                         
                                         It's The Breakfast Club.
                                         
                                         It's Cardi B.
                                         
    
                                         Wake that ass up.
                                         
                                         Early in the morning.
                                         
                                         The Breakfast Club.
                                         
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                                         change in your home, workplace, and social circle. We're going to learn how to become better allies
                                         
    
                                         to each other. So join us each Saturday for CivicCypher on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast,
                                         
                                         or wherever you get your podcasts.
                                         
                                         Hey, I'm Jacqueline Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series,
                                         
                                         Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while running errands or at the end
                                         
                                         of a busy day. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry,
                                         
                                         we'll explore the stories that shape our culture.
                                         
                                         Listen to Black Lit on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
                                         
                                         iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
                                         
    
                                         or wherever you get your podcasts.
                                         
                                         Hey, everyone.
                                         
                                         I'm Madison Packer,
                                         
                                         a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York.
                                         
                                         And I'm Anya Packer,
                                         
                                         a former pro hockey player
                                         
                                         and now a full Madison Packers fan.
                                         
                                         Anya and I met through hockey,
                                         
    
                                         and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers,
                                         
                                         ages two and four.
                                         
                                         And we're excited about our new podcast, Moms Who Puck,
                                         
                                         which talks about everything from pro hockey
                                         
                                         to professional women's athletes to raising children
                                         
                                         and all the messiness in between.
                                         
                                         So listen to Moms Who Puck on the iHeartRadio app,
                                         
                                         Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
                                         
