The Breakfast Club - Carefully Reckless: Frenemies & Fetishes

Episode Date: February 23, 2025

The Black Effect Presents... Carefully Reckless! Hey y'all! Jess been fixing your mess for years now and y'all still surprising her with new scenarios. Does sending feet pics qualify as cheating? Is your homegirl hating on your relationship? Tap in!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Karen, where have you brought us? Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation Island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of iHeartRadio and The Black Effect. ["I Heart Radio and The Black Effect"] And just like that, we're back with yet another Carefully Reckless episode with your girl Jess Hilarious.

What do I be doing? I be fixing my ass so we're going to jump straight in. We got Taylor here, y'all. She going to be in and out because she got some stuff to do today. She a little bit busy and pregnant over there. So say hey, Taylor. Hey. All right, y'all. So say hey Taylor. Hey. Alright y'all so I'm gonna read. I'm gonna start off reading and then I'll fill you in

when you come back. Okay. Alright. What's poppin' Jess? I'm gonna start off strong. I'm a 27 year old lesbian who has damn okay. Alright she did say she's gonna start off strong. I'm a 27 year old lesbian who has a girlfriend who sells feet picks. Okay. She hasn't always done it, but she's definitely doing it now.

About three months ago, she lost her job and I've been carrying her. We also live with each other, by the way. Recently, things have been getting kinda slow because it's only one working person in the household. And all my income is going toward bills and etc. So that means no extra shit been going on. Yes, she was looking for jobs but no luck.

One day out of nowhere she just deposited $3,500 in my account. She told me this was from the last two months rent and she'll have another $3,000 next week. So now I'm like, okay, you found a job and she's saying yes, she's doing paid partnerships and collabs and it's turning out well for her. I didn't really question it too much. I was just happy that things were turning around. So a few days ago I had to pick up her phone for something and I seen a message that said, you ready? In my head I'm like, you ready for what? But I just let it play out. She didn't go nowhere. So I'm like, who could this be? That night I decided to pick

up her phone again and see who texted her. I looked through the thread, and she's been sending feet pics and videos of herself to this number for the past two months. When I say this nigga paying hundreds of dollars for this girl's feet, he really is. And her feet not even all that.

Ay yo! Ay yo! You better fucking chill. Anyways, the messages weren't crazy. It just seemed like she just sends what she sends and he sends the funds and that be it. Okay, all right, so it's kind of platonic a little bit. Like, well, not platonic,

because he beaten off to her feet, but in a way, I mean, I ain't really doing them. I honestly don't really know how I feel about it, but I do want to say something, not gonna lie. I feel like the only reason she hasn't said anything because she may feel embarrassed, and I mean, I don't prefer her to do that, but until she can get to where she wants to be,

I'm not gonna knock her, but yes, there are other ways to make money. How would you approach this situation, Jess? Honestly, it's so much other shit to trip about, y'all. I mean, this is not one of them. I'm just gonna be completely honest with you. Y'all come to me so I can help fix y'all mess, and not only fix y'all mess based off of my experience, right?

And I just don't really feel like it's that serious for you to, you know, I mean, you didn't say you were gonna break up with her. All right, so Taylor just joined us again. All right, so basically his girl, oh no, she's a 27 year old lesbian. Yes, she came on strong. Yes, all right, my bad.

So her girlfriend, you know, she's been, them two live in a house together, right? And so she had lost her job. The girlfriend lost her job. But the girl that's writing us, she, she been working and she been taking care of the household and everything. But shit, just getting a little tight

because it's only one person making money in the household, right? So out of nowhere, her girlfriend just dropped $3,500 in her account, right? And she like, fuck, okay, cool. She ain't never asked where it came from or nothing. And she was like, I'm gonna give you another $3,000 next week, and so she like, oh shit, all right, cool.

So she just dropping money, paying bills and shit. So she goes in her phone and she see that her girl been sending videos of her feet and pictures of her feet to this guy who's paying hundreds of dollars. She went up and down the thread. She felt like, is it cheating or is it not? And then also, while her girlfriend didn't say anything to her, she felt like she may be embarrassed and shit.

But she was like, I don't wanna knock what she do, but there are other ways to make money. Did she confront her already? No. No, she hasn't. She said she wants to because she want to know how she she approached the situation She's not mad about it. I mean just be like She said they ain't talk about nothing else literally she sends the feet the niggas send the funds So just feet funds feet funds feet funds. You know I'm saying

They talk about no, I love you, I can't wait to see you, I wanna suck on your feet or whatever, he just, yeah. That's a fetish. And this is not the first time I've heard of some shit like this, like niggas pay big bread, 2C bitches play with they feet on OnlyFans. Like, yes, they do that.

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She not cheating on you, you know what I mean? She don't even know the guy, never met the guy. I mean, you know what I'm saying? If you do research to find that out, you probably would find that out. But. I mean, unless she's a deep thinker, like what else has she done behind my back?

Since I was doing that. Overthinker, yeah. Yeah, overthinker. Shorty just trying to find a way to get some bread. After trying to look for a job and... Yo, and then, hold up. The girlfriend said, and this is just crazy because like her feet ain't even all that. Hey, yo. Damn, why he...

Yes, like why would you even do that? Like, that's fucked up, you know? Honestly, maybe they could go in together and be like, I got another feat for you. And then he gets double and he pays more. What if her feat fucked up? What if she got stud feet? I don't know what stud feet is.

Oh, okay, okay. Hey yo, I mean, I don't know what stud feet is, but what if Shodi that's writing this, what if her feat ain't all stuff you know, what if what if what if surety that's rightness What if her feet ain't all that? What she gotta get it right then? Yeah, he'll say just tell him I got some more feet Yeah, and he'll pay double You are dumb yo, that's not how that go

I got some more feet for you How can we get more money out of it? Right, right, Well, yeah. But how she should have approached the situation, yeah, just sit down and talk to her about it. Honestly, I would tell her that your sneaky ass went through our phone. That's it.

And this is how I would do it. So you sit her down and say, look babe, I've been carrying us and everything and I really, really appreciate you just dropping that 3,500 in the account. I did have some questions about where it came from and maybe I should have asked you right then and there, but you know, I just, you know, let it be.

You know, you gained some independence. It was cool, it was cool, but I did go through your phone. I got a little couriers, went through your phone. I seen that you be sending feet pics and shit. And don't tell her her feet ain't all that. Just leave that part out. But tell her, you know, be honest with her. Like, yo, it bothered me.

It kind of bothered me a little bit to see you send the pictures and videos to this guy who's paying you all his bread. I mean, I don't know how, and you can even be honest and tell her, I don't know how I would feel about it. I don't know if I feel like you're cheating. I don't know if I should be mad, angry, insecure, betrayed,

whatever, I don't know how I feel. I just want to talk to you about it. And then y'all can just hash that shit out. That's just what 90% of a fucking, no, 80% of a fucking relationship is, communication. You have to have communication. And then, you know, have sex and chill out for the rest of the night.

Hey yo, for real. So I'm moving on to another story. Taylor, you can read this one. Okay. Okay. Hey Jess, what's up? So I'm gonna get straight to it. I think I finally Jess, what's up? So I'm going to get straight to it. I think I finally found the love of my life. I'm so happy with him.

He's a gentleman, a family man, and romantic. We've only been together for almost a year, but I really think he's the one, like I said. But the issue is I have a best friend who seems to be jealous of him. Now, me and my best friend have been friends for about eight years. That's my sis for real.

But ever since I've been dating this guy, she seems to be a lot more protective. And even said when she met him, she didn't feel she would get along with him. Which is crazy, because he's been nothing but nice to her. And I'm happy with him, so I would think she would be happy for me.

Plus, she got a guy of her own that she claims she's happy with. But trust me, they got issues. But that's a story for another day. Anyway, she ended up ruining a surprise gift for my boyfriend and claimed she told me to make sure I would like it. Like what the fuck? It's a surprise.

Why would you ruin that? And she's not even being apologetic towards it. I'm upset with her and my boyfriend definitely is too. I just don't know what to do because I want everyone to get along. Hmm. Yeah, that's crazy. It sounds like there's a bit of jealousy there. Actually, which is worse? I think envy is worse than jealousy. Because envy is when you'll start being like, like.

Isn't that the same thing? Well, kind of sort of, yeah. I mean, because being jealous is just, yeah, like envy is, I want what that person got and I'm going to get it type shit. Oh. Envy is more revengeful, I think. Or I want to sabotage it, yeah. Yeah, I want to sabotage it.

OK, I think, I mean, it sounds like your friend is jealous. I won't say envy. Jealous and also, it is a little bit of envy there, because maybe she wants what you have, you know what I mean? And that two things can be true at one time. All right. So like she loves you. She is your friend. Yes. Because I've had a situation similar like this before.

But when you were single, I bet you there were no problems like when you were single and shit. I mean, that's kind of what you hinted to like, you know, since you've been with this new guy. She's been acting out in a way that Is just like like she's never acted out this way before so that tells me She's used to you being one way like sometimes your friends can't take to see you happier than they are Or if I'm saying it right, you get what I'm saying? Because when I got into my relationship

and my boyfriend slash fiance, like he's now my fiance, when he proposed and everything, it was a lot of people that I thought would be happy for me that was not. And this is close friends, like close friends, close family, like, oh, I wasn't there and all that type of shit. But this is also the friend and family that's like going through shit in their own life.

You know what I mean? When I was single, everything was cool. We was kicking it and shit. Or when Chris was just my boyfriend, and before I had my daughter, before I was single, everything was cool. We was kicking it and shit. Or when Chris was just my boyfriend, and before I had my daughter, before I got pregnant, like when he was just my boyfriend, it was like he was no threat. You know what I mean?

But he out of nowhere became a threat once I got pregnant. Then I'm spending more time with him, then we got the baby and I'm not around as much and I live in Jersey now. And it's from the outside looking at it, it's like, oh, you up there with your perfect fucking family while I'm down here as much and I live in Jersey now and it's from the outside looking it's like oh you up there with your Perfect fucking family while I'm down here, you know still fucking with this nigga who cheating on me who not you know I think I don't even have you to talk to you no more because you're so fucking happy that is

Projection yeah like shit and friends will do that and that's how that's why I had to kind of explain it because I think That's what I think that's what she's going through. You know what I mean? Especially because I've been in situations like that and versus like where I didn't like my friend's boyfriend because he wasn't good for me. He wasn't a good, yeah. That was you being a good friend though. Yeah, but I would never try to like, necessarily sabotage their relationship. Especially if this person really makes her happy.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, if this person really out here making you happy and shit, why would your friend hate on that? And then telling you about the fucking surprise, that is just so wrong and insanely annoying. Like, why would you do that? I wanted to make sure that you liked it.

That's so fucking weird. And then I wonder if she's the type friend that is used to, like, she has to be a part of everything. You know what I mean? Because that's how, I don't know, man. He told your friend in Confident to... Mm-hmm. He even included this bitch. And, like, that's so weird.

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She wants everyone to get along. She's not apologetic about it. Like she's. Oh, the friend. Okay. She don't think she did anything. Oh, the friend. Okay. She don't think she did anything wrong. So the friend don't even care. Yeah.

And the boyfriend's up, like, it's causing a rift. Set up. It's like, come on, yo, this is too much. Shorty is weird. Sometimes you gotta fall back from people, babe. Like, fall back. If it doesn't align with your happiness and the path that you're on.

Sometimes you gotta be a little selfish and I know that seems wrong to say, but nah, like you sure do gotta grow up. Your friend has to grow up and she has to do some inner work because that is all projection. Like she's supposed to be happy for you, you feel me? But sometimes people can't see past their own misery. Especially if she has, I mean, like she says, they got issues, but you have a whole other

relationship to worry about. So why the fuck are you over here? Because ain't shit going on over there. She probably been cheated on or, you know, whatever, or emotionally betrayed or just whatever. They're not communicating. She's probably sexually frustrated, anything could be happening.

So projection, she's fucking projected. And then the fact that she's not apologetic about it, that's really a slap in the face of somebody who's been your friend, you feel me? So that's the reason, cause you know, it's principles to this shit. And the principle is, you're not a friend if you don't even feel any remorse

for what the fuck you did. I just wanna say if you liked it. Nah, bitch, this makes you feel good. Causing havoc makes you feel good. I feel like that was just bullshit for you to tell, you to tell your homegirl about the fucking surprise. Even how she said she's been protective over me. She's still trying to Make her friends sound like she's being a good friend. I know and that's why I'm like no you can't do that.

And your boyfriend, trust me, your boyfriend definitely sees that there's some type of manipulation She you know I mean like that shit is no no don't let her play on your heartstrings. And right now, yo, you happy with somebody, so I wouldn't let nothing fuck that up, you know? Not even a jealous ass friend. Because it's room for both. Their roles should never cross. You know what I mean? That's your friend, that's your man.

It should be nothing, she should never even feel a certain way about him unless he is not good for you, but the way you are putting it to me is he's great. That's the best thing that ever happened to your ass, so stick with that, because it's very seldom that you find somebody out here for you, that makes you happy. You wanna have a family, you trying to, you know.

Man, you got shit to do, got shit to work on. Do you think they just stop being friends? I think she should fall back. I wouldn't say throw away the relationship, the friendship, you know, obviously, the girl do love her, I'm not going, you know, even the jealous people, you know, even jealous friends, because sometimes you gotta knock some sense

into them motherfuckers, they don't know all the time. And I'm not saying go beat your friend up, I'm saying sometimes you have to show a person a mirror because she don't know what she doing. Like she know what she doing, but she don't really realize how fucked up she is. And this is a reaction to how she's reacting to what the fuck is going on in her life,

but she's projecting at the same time. But she don't see it like that. You feel me? She know what she doing, but at the same time, she don't realize why she doing this shit. And sometimes you gotta turn the mirror on a person, but I think that's not your job. That's a therapist's job to do that for her, you know?

So I will fall back. I will fall back. The no remorse thing is just, that's fucked up. So sometimes you gotta fall back from a person and let her come around, you know? Let her come around. The no remorse thing is just, that's fucked up. So sometimes you gotta fall back from a person and let her come around, you know? Let her come around and let her come around when she got some sense and when she ready

to have a real conversation and you're actually ready to sit down and tell her what I just told you. Like, yo, you've been projecting on me, I feel like, you know, like, you know, you really gotta have uncomfortable conversations with your friends sometimes and that's how you really stand to see if they your real friends or not, you know, you really gotta have uncomfortable conversations with your friends sometimes, and that's how you really stand to see if they your real friends or not, you know. Friends fuss, friends fight, friends make up, you know.

And friends keep it real with each other, so I just think you should fall back, fix what you got at home, you know, because it's starting to be a strain, I mean a drain on your relationship, it's starting to fuck up shit. You make sure your house is good. You make sure you and your significant other are good.

Fall back from her, let her come around, you know, and then y'all work to repair that relationship, you know? And if shit don't change, y'all just grew apart. You go your way, she go hers. That's how that shit go, you know? Never let nobody disturb your peace. Your peace is all you got, you know? So, I liked it.

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