The Breakfast Club - Cassie & Diddy had a “modern day love” story? His legal team says …

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

Mark Agnifilo, one of Diddy’s attorneys, speaks with Jericka Duncan on CBS Mornings and admits that Mr. Combs supports an attempt to gain a pardon from Donald Trump but also says, he, as Diddys attorney had nothing to do with it. Diddys attorney also discussed the relationship between him Cassie and Jane. And Diddys plans to “return to music at Madison square garden”.  Loren talks about the optics of this kind of thinking and how Diddy and his team don’t seem to be showing the right amount of humility and respect towards the court and toward’s Sean Comb’s need to rehabilitate and ask forgiveness, rather than set his sights on selling out MSG again.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now, we've been talking a bit about Diddy because his attorneys have been on almost like a press role, out of late. They've been doing interviews with several different outlets. And more recently, Nicole Westmoreland, one of his attorneys did an interview where she talked about there being a pardon conversation between people in Diddy's camp, people in Diddy's world. She actually said we in the interview. So people said, hey, Diddy's defense attorneys are having conversations officially with Donald Trump about the pardon. But then Mark Agnifilio, another one of Diddy's attorneys went on CBS Mornings. He sat down with one of my homegirls. Her name is Jerica Duncan.

She worked for CBS Mornings. Did the interview. And the interview was pretty interesting. They talked about a couple different things, but they did address the pardon head-on, or so it seemed. And this is what Mark Agnifilio had to say. You mean to tell me that you really have nothing to do with a possible pardon right now? Nothing. I have nothing to do with a possible pardon. What is Sean Combs saying about the possibility of the pardon? I think he knows. I think he knows. I'm not political. We've never discussed it other than I tell him what's in the news about it. And what's his reaction?

Does he laugh? Does he say, let's look into it? What does he say? Go tell him that I need a pardon. Go tell him I deserve a pardon. That's what he said. Now, I'm confused about this, as you guys probably are, because, again, another one of Diddy's attorneys who works very closely with Mark Edmophilio came out and said that they had been

having conversation. So this does seem like a cleanup job. I mean, I had reached out earlier this week, and I've been told that if we were to say that Diddy's defense team themselves had reached out to Trump and had been in conversation with Trump, that would not be accurate, that it was people in Diddy's world in his orbit. So I'm still trying to narrow down exactly who it was and exactly what conversations are. But this seems, you know, it seems like, you know, maybe Nicole Westmoreland spoke before she was supposed to or I'm just really not sure. maybe the response to the pardon wasn't what they wanted because at the same time, Mark Agnifilio says Diddy's down. He's like, yo, give me that pardon. Let me know what's up. Now, one of the things that Mark Agnifilio said in this interview was that Diddy is looking to return back to his family and all the

things, but return back to music. Let's listen. Does he want to get back into music? Does he want to get back into business? I think he's someone who is always going to strive to do something, you know, exceptional and probably demanding and challenging. But I think the most, demanding and challenging thing in front of him right now is to get back with his kids and get back with his mother and the people who love him and miss him so he's talked to you about getting back into music if he's not not no no honestly he has not okay um one thing he said he said he said he said he said he's going to be back in madison square garden he said that he did he said to me he's me back in madison square garden doing what i guess being on stage

you know i mean and i said i'll be there now let me tell y'all something here Shout out to my home girl, Jerika Duncan. And when I say my home girl, I say it very loosely, you guys know I had covered the Sean Diddy Combs case in court for eight weeks. A lot of us media outlets there, it was almost like being in college again. You met new resources, you met new people. You guys were in this world every day for hours at a time that no one else could understand unless she were there at the same time. And Jerica was one of the people who was there for CBS doing her content and coverage and all the things. Mary her while she was there, she's amazing and phenomenal at what she does.

I always give it up to journalists, but especially women journalists, especially black women journalists because of things like what we just listen to. Let's take a listen to her response one more time. He said that. He did. He said to me, he's been back in Madison Square Garden. Doing what? I love the way black women can just do exactly what they need to do without saying a dang thing, okay? Because it gave everything it needed to give.

And that was the first clip that they released. Now, in this newer clip, which we did not talk about on the breakfast club, Jure. Rika went back in and, you know, had some conversations about what are you guys going to do moving forward? Because the way the things were presented versus where things are right now, people would be worried for y'all and worried for how this may play out for you guys. So they had a conversation about sentencing and how Diddy's defense team has been preparing him for the sentencing that will go down on October 3rd. Let's take a listen to that. How are you preparing him? So, I mean, I tell him what the guidelines are, you know, and the guidelines are about two or three years.

And I tell them, you know, the judge could go above the guidelines. Not going to lie to y'all. I would be surprised, but it wouldn't wow me if Diddy was to get anything less than three years. I do think that this based on how this bail situation is going, it feels as if, and this is just a feeling. This is just a guess, an opinion. The judge feels like Diddy needs to learn a lesson of sorts or face consequence of sorts because that has never happened. And with that being said, in both charges, the two Man Act charges, the two prosecution charges that Diddy has been convicted of with them holding 10 years apiece up to 20 years combined, it's a little bit nerve-wracking of where this is going to land. I wouldn't be, because in the beginning I was saying, okay, I wouldn't be surprised when I was looking at everything, like the RICO, sex trafficking, all of the things.

I was like, I wouldn't be surprised if Diddy, you know, was sentenced with 10 years, they gave him time search. So he's looking at a good, like, six to seven. And then I backed away from that because he wasn't convicted of that RICO. He wasn't convicted of the sex trafficking, which were the heavier charges. But now I'm looking at just how the judge is responding to Diddy in this situation as being a convicted person who, according to the court, participated in the Demand Act allegations. And I wouldn't be surprised if it could give a little bit more maybe four to six, four to seven, basically. off of these charges and hopefully time served. But what I think is the big issue here is it's always been about this sort of like celebrity

and power. We talked about this. We talked about this on a previous episode. Make sure you guys go and listen where I said, did he need to humble himself a bit? I understand. I would celebrate too if I wasn't found guilty on something that can convict me for the rest of my life. But at the same time, you were still at the mercy of the court.

And that is what I don't understand why. like if I were to these attorneys I would not be doing interviews right now everything will wait until sentencing and I definitely want to talk about him returning to Madison Square Garden as if he's just going to pick back up life and move forward I mean he does have to pick back up

his life and move forward don't get me wrong but it's like once you you do the crime you do the time once you do the time once you have rehabilitated in a real way and that's what I think is missing here there's a sort of like empathy or humility or like a

I need to change that that it seems like it's missing. And that's a scary thing to even, like, and I don't know if that's true. I haven't spoken to Ditty myself, but that's what is implied by a lot of the actions, right? The conversation about, oh, he wants to return to MSG. Be with his family, return to MSG.

And, you know, of course, we want the judge, you know, he's a changed person, but yeah, he's tried to sell out of medicine square guard. It's just, it's never going to sit well, nor does it ever put a good taste in a court's mouth when you have a person like Sean Diddy Combs, super powerful, super rich and I'm not saying that

because he is super powerful and super rich he should kiss the court's ass at the same time there's a conversation about overreach and me sitting in court myself I will say there were certain things that I didn't understand why the prosecution leaned in on

so much but when you are a person who there were allegations of him reaching out to witnesses there were text messages and conversations shown in court where he's like I know I'm not supposed to be on these phones

talking about this. They showed his hotel room in court, the hotel room he was waiting in to be arrested on the indictment. And there was all the supplies and reminences of the freak off, right? You got to show the court that like, man, I don't know who I thought I was. Y'all right. Y'all got me. I am no bigger. I am not bigger than the law whatsoever. And I just don't think that they're doing that. And here's an example of the way that people are taking or reacting to a lot of the things that were said in court number one, but also things that have happened since the verdict has dropped. Let's take a listen to Mark Agnifilio, talked to Jureka Duncan from CBS, just about the way did they try this case. Do you have any regrets in how

you tried this case? It's a good question. Not really. Not really. You called the relationship between Combs and Ventura a great modern love story. Ventura says she was raped, physically, abused and became addicted to drugs because of combs. I think that's what makes it, the rape we vehemently deny. And I know I respect that she said that. I don't think the jury concluded that that happened. In terms of the, you know, the drugs and the other stuff, I think that's what makes it a modern love story.

I think she very much loved him and I know he very much loved her. Yeah. I don't know. Now, listen, to Mark Agnefer. Phileo's point, Diddy was not convicted of rape. He wasn't. And there was nothing wrong with clearing that up at any and every time someone brings that up on this criminal side because we saw what he was convicted of. Legally, you can do that.

But I do think, again, she's leaning into a bit of the humility of this because at the same time I told you guys in that last episode, make sure you go, you know, check that out. The ladies with Lauren La Rosa where we talked about Diddy's humility that I believe he should take. we spent weeks looking at abuse I mean not just to see an end video photos of bruises Cassie's mother getting on the stand talking about what they were put through I just don't see sentencing going in ditty's favor if they don't back down quiet down and turn off the take that take that turn off the bad boy baby

turn off the lights and the glitz and the glim take the sunglasses off of daddy let's be Sean Combs right now a man who had his family in the court who had to turn around to his babies and say daddy is coming home because you were just granted the opportunity to not spend the rest of your life you know behind bars and let's stay in that feeling stay in that did he's big stay in that vibration stay in that energy love love love stay there at least until you get through this is all that I'm saying and then when you get through this you can still go back to be look you work whatever you have left after this because ditty does so have to fight things on the civil side you worked for that and you know what

I mean it's yours no one can take that from you but as a person there's a lot of things that you need to work on and change and get rid of for yourself to make sure you don't end back up in the situation that you're right now but also all them babies you turned around and looked at and said daddy's coming home too for them now I tell you guys every episode There's a lot to talk about You guys could be anywhere with anybody talking about it Because at the end of the day, things is always going down

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