The Breakfast Club - Cedric The Entertainer and Nicey Nash In

Episode Date: March 13, 2015

Cedric The Entertainer and Nicey Nash discuss their television show The Soul Man, their roles in movies, how to not be black balled in Hollywood and much more. Learn more about your ad-choices at htt...ps://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:50 Mr. Cedric, the entertainer. Yes, sir. And Lucy Nash. Y'all in here whispering to each other like, y'all really married? I feel like they really like each other. Yeah, it goes down like that. I mean, you know. But people ask us that all the time because we film the show in front of a live audience
Starting point is 00:03:05 and someone always is like, are y'all really together in real life? No. I got a real wife. She got a real husband. There's six, nine or something. Dark and strong. I'm like, hey, my man.
Starting point is 00:03:21 But I do say all the time that I'm a very lucky girl because I do have the best TV husband ever. Like, I really do. And sometimes I do treat him like he's my real husband on accident. I'm like, can you go get them bags out the car? He's in an accident, though. Don't treat him too much like your real husband because we read that book.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Oh, not that part of my husband. No, no, no, no. That was a great part. No, no, no, not that part of my husband. Yeah. no, no, no. That was a great part. No, no, no. Not that part of my life. God bless you for that. Yeah. You know, you said that you got to give a day to keep the divorce attorney awake.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I did say that, and I meant that. And it's too bad that it stops when the camera's there. I was just like, man. Cedric. It just seemed like it would be, you know, you don't want a book to be just fiction. I agree. Cedric. Y'all already got good chemistry.
Starting point is 00:04:09 How y'all develop that kind of chemistry? Y'all have to do anything sexual to get that? Or y'all just. What? What's happening right now? We got some great chemistry. Did we all knock each other over? Well, Sean and me have sex occasionally.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Okay, we'll see. That was a long time ago. He said, no. Ain't enough career management for me to be having sex with him. Mercy! That's cold blood, man. No, but congratulations, four seasons on So Man,
Starting point is 00:04:34 and you guys both have so much going on outside of that as well, so I'm sure it's pretty fun to do it in front of a live audience, too. Yeah, you know, that's what's really dope. I mean, you know, television's starting to make a comeback. You see a lot of African Americans
Starting point is 00:04:47 making a splash on TV, but our show is been moving along each year on this network. We've been having fun. We're really blessed to be able to come back and do it for a fourth season. So now, you know, we want people to put their eyes on it. It's a fun show. It's a unique
Starting point is 00:05:03 world about a guy who used to be, you know, an R&B superstar kind of, you know, think Mase, think Al Green, whatever. Now he, you know, turned to be a minister and he struggles with the differences of going back and forth. You get to sing too. Yeah, I sing a little bit on the show.
Starting point is 00:05:19 But then I have to say this, when you talk about chemistry, one of the things that was important to me when Cedric first said, you know, will you be my wife in this series? I didn't immediately say yes. The first question I asked is, do we love each other?
Starting point is 00:05:32 That was what was important to me. Like, do we get to see black love or is the wife just sassy and the husband is a smart Alec? I just, you wanted to cause me show type thing. I just wanted real love. I just wanted my kids to be able to see a black couple on TV
Starting point is 00:05:48 that go through what they go through, but you can tell that they love each other. And you guys are very family-oriented on the show as well, even when you're with family members. It's very supportive. Yeah. Not really popular these days, though. You always find, like, if you don't have ALS or something, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Got a shot at Empire, sir? I love Empire. What I'm just saying, like, you got to have, like, all the social issues to be interesting. You know, like, you know, it's not. Is everybody really like that? Like, you know, there's some cool people that live cool lives, and they go along. They get up. They do their jobs.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And, you know, they fun, and you love them. They love their families, that's all it is to it. With the live element of the show, do y'all ever get scared that a joke won't hit, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. They make the crowd laugh, that's what the people there for. Laugh, right now.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And when you do the show live, though, the reason why I'm not scared is because my TV husband is also a king of comedy. And if something doesn't work in a moment, he gonna pull something out. That'll fix it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:53 I mean, the show's 30 minutes. Well, it's a live episode. I mean, when you do our season premieres live, everything else we tape. But when you do it live, what you see is what you get. And last season, right in the middle of the show, when we're supposed to
Starting point is 00:07:10 be Boyce and Lolly, he said, Niecy, get the dope! And I was like, what is happening right now? But you know, I mean, it is that kind of thing with a live audience, you know, and then you're doing the premiere live. Like, you know, you're basically on the high wire. You're out there doing it, you know, I mean, it is that kind of thing with a live audience, you know, and you're doing the premiere live, like, you know, you're basically on the high wire. You're out there doing it, you know, and so you have to trust, you know, that you have to make that audience laugh.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You hopefully that if it makes us laugh, it'll make you laugh at home. And that's the kind of thing that, you know, they try to do. But, you know, I take a lot of freedom because, you know, I co-created the show and I'm an executive producer. So if it fails, then, you know, hey, man, it was what I thought would work. And so I go with that, you know. Is it hard for you to play a reverend? Do you ever feel like you might be being blasphemous a little bit? I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Now answer the man the truth. Tell the man. Tell the man. What happened? What happened? What happened? You know, the thing is, is that you want to try to play a real person that also has these flaws. So, you know, I know a lot of reverends that are good people.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And, you know, when you get to know them up close, you realize they got flaws like regular individuals. So I'm not afraid to go to that part. And so sometimes it does feel like we got, especially in the first season, we got to areas where we felt like it could be a little blasphemous, you know, like, you know, I end up eating some weed cupcakes or something, you know what I'm saying? And you think like, well, you know, like, ah, is that too far?
Starting point is 00:08:38 Like, you know, but you, you know, it was like, you know, I was trying to stop somebody else from being, you know, on drugs or whatever, and it was a choice I made at the time. So, you know, I have a good time feeling cool about myself when you push the envelope or ask a question, is this spiritually sound? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:57 I think that's what it's all about. Why are you looking at him like that, Niecy? Just because I'm just checking his answers, just trying to see where he lands with it. He comes to you sometimes and says, baby, I think I'm being a little blasphemous. Well, no, let's just talk about Cedric for a second. Because, you know, even like when
Starting point is 00:09:13 we're on our church set, you forget. And I'm like, punk, and we in the church. Stop cussing. Don't cuss so quick in here. Ratchet it back down. Cuss words in the Bible. Cuss words in the Bible. Cuss words in the Bible. The weed was the burning bush.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Okay. Oh, that's what you found? I didn't know that. They say you can't find God in no man-made temple anyway. All right. I'm with all that stuff right there. Yeah, we've heard Niece's advice on, you know, keeping your man. Now, Cedric, for you being a married man and being on the show, a TV husband,
Starting point is 00:09:51 what's your advice for keeping your woman happy? Oh, you know, you have to pay attention. I think, you know, that's the thing about it is to care about your woman always, to pay attention, to listen, to talk, to date, to be involved. I think these are things that happens after a while when you're in relationships. You find yourself either taking your own selfish attitudes toward the relationship and you don't really pay attention to your mate. And I've been married 15 years now.
Starting point is 00:10:19 We've been together 18. So it is that process of caring. Like you just have to, sometimes you have to make yourself care. Like, I mean, it's the process of caring like you just have to sometimes you have to make yourself care it's the truth of the matter I don't care what you talk about you sound like your homeboy Steve Harvey but you know
Starting point is 00:10:35 I need a book, a deal and a show that's my dog right there he got a hundred things going on we left your role on Top 5 oh yeah, now see that character right there. He got a hundred things going on. We loved your role on Top 5. Oh, yeah. Now, see that character right there. You like that?
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah. That character had nothing to do with no reverend. Nothing. It was some praise going on around there. But that character, that was fun. I like the opportunity to be off there, like in a haunted house, just to do these wild characters that's off the chain that you just, you know, you can dive out of that kind of normal, easygoing Cedric mode
Starting point is 00:11:11 that people are like, yo, Ced, just easy and cool. Like, I'll do some wild stuff. I'll be Charlemagne. I got a Charlemagne inside me. That character in Top 5, that was me when I used to be a promoter. Oh, yeah. You know, it's 100 of them. Oh, yeah. It's 100. Everybody who's done hundred of them. I got some girls. I got some ladies. Oh, yeah, it's a hundred.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Everybody who's done this, like, you go around, you know these guys. They all, they can promise you the world. They all believe they can do it. I got this.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Whatever you need, son. Whoever. Who wants to be a millionaire? What happened with that? You didn't want to do it? You got tired? Well, you know, when they changed it,
Starting point is 00:11:41 you know, the thing was they moved the show to Connecticut. So, you know, when it was here in New York, it was really, you know, it was advantageous to me to be here, to be in the city, to be able to do other business and do the show. And we had some great opportunities here. When they moved it to Connecticut, it was just one of those situations where it wasn't going to work. It was you're there three to four months.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And I got small kids. I mean, I live in L.A. and it just wasn't conducive to be in Connecticut for four months. They really put you out of the loop. I passed on it. And they were shrinking the show. I think they were actually trying to either wrap it up or whatever. So they were shrinking the show. They were bringing down
Starting point is 00:12:17 everything. So all the producers I came to the show with, that'd be like all y'all guys, they was bringing in a whole new crew and it was just me. So I was like, nah, I don't want to do that. Now both of y'all know how to keep a check. Yeah, man. And recently Lee Daniels said, you know, you got to know how to play the game.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah. Is that true? Do you really have to know how to play the game? Because y'all stay working. Well, you know, I have a lot of jobs. And I don't know necessarily about that I keep them by playing the game, but I do understand what he meant by, you know, there is a show and there is a part of it that is a business.
Starting point is 00:12:55 For me, I guess my own thing I try to do is to diversify. I want all my stuff to be different. Like I love playing Cedric's wife on a show. Then I do my job on HBO, which is so very different from that job, which is getting on. I just did Selma. That's the Mindy Project, right? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:13:13 You were a lesbian on that. I was a lesbian on the Mindy Project. Knock it off. I was also in the historical drama Selma. Let me bring it back up. I was in Selma. Very different. And I'm about to start a new project with Ryan Murphy called Scream Queens.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So I like all of everything that kind of, and y'all know I'm an author because you talked about my book, but I like to just try different things. But this is part of the business that is the business and not the show. You know, coming around and promoting and, you know, it's a part of it. What about you, Cedric? You got to play that game? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a part of it. I mean, you know, for a long time.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And it was a couple of different things doing that argument. Like, I thought that they both had, you know, valid points to what they were talking about. But, you know, the one thing that, Monique, that resonated with me was the idea of going to Cannes and you have to go to promote. But the expectation that you're supposed to do these things when you really participate in such a small part of a movie. I think that it's important to be able to go and promote. But when you're an artist, you're a creative person, you got a life, you got a lot of things that you do. When asked to do things that are, like, beyond the scope of what the contract is, then where's the opportunity in it for me? I get it.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Like, yeah, I love the idea of going to con. I get that. But it's going to cost me money to do this. Like, this is going to cost me time to do this. And if it's not valuable to you, then, you know, I ran into a situation like that on Barbershop, Barbershop 2. And so we made a different kind of deal. But you have to make sure that your message is understood with the people. We're not coming off as something that, you know, I just want something. But I get her point.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I get that. Like, man, we work hard. You just don't expect me to change everything and then go, well, you just didn't play the game. Is this something that you're putting in people's contracts now, you think? Well, you would think, yeah. I mean, certain artists, they do that. I mean, you know, and you learn from other people.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Like the international aspect, like Will Smith, you know, he taught all of us people like like the international aspect, like Will Smith. You know, he taught all of us that you got to go out there and promote your movie internationally and get it known. It's important for you to become a brand internationally. So there is a sacrifice to that. And sometimes it's going to cost you like. But again, if you Will Smith, you can afford to do that. If you make a fifty thousand on the movie, that's a different that's a different choice. Like you like I don't know about that move right there.
Starting point is 00:15:47 So if we don't see you in Barbershop 3, it's because you was difficult to work with in Barbershop 2? Damn right. Are they doing a 3? Are you in? They doing a 3. We close. We close. We close. As soon as I negotiate my Cannes Film Festival trip, I'm going to be clear.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I'm making that the move right now. That's my whole move about my international travel. Now, Nisi, I got to ask you. Felicia Rashad, they just did an article about how she's coming back to TV and she's going to be playing a lesbian FBI agent in a new series. Felicia Rashad? Yeah. As in Claire Huxtable.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Why do you got to be lesbian? Now some people are asking if it's going to ruin her legacy as Mrs. Huxtable. What do you think about all these characters on TV now? I see a lot of people talking about, oh, why are there so many gay characters on television? You know what? First of all, to answer the first question, no, I don't think it's going to ruin her legacy. I think she's an artist. I mean, as an artist, you can't say every role I'm going to do, I'm going to be America's mom. And that's the only
Starting point is 00:16:48 thing I'm going to do. That would be so narrow and so limited. That's like an artist only doing, you know, the same song all the time. This is like, come on. You know what I mean? Like, you want new music, you want new material because that feeds us as an artist. So no, I don't think that's going to affect
Starting point is 00:17:04 her career in any sort of negative way and I just think that art imitates life and now we're living in a day and age where it's becoming more socially acceptable to stand in your truth and be who you are and people want to see themselves represented on television.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So I think that's the reason why. Yeah, I don't mind the gay roles as long as they're gay for a reason. Not just gay just because you want gay people to watch your show. You know what I mean? Like a gay cop or a gay attorney. Well, there's a whole network. Remember Logo? They had a whole network that was just dedicated for
Starting point is 00:17:36 gay programming. And you know she's going to do it with a degree of dignity. I mean, she's just that kind of person in her natural character. But the ideology of recognizing that this could be a real person, that this is somebody who out there lives is true. Felicia is an actress and, you know, a great artist. She's going to be able to deliver that. Now, if she get into some real hot lesbian stuff, then.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Cedric. Is that too much? Too much to think about? Now, what do you do in a lesbian role? Be a husband? Flays look like Claire Huxtable. That drink. From Houston, Texas.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Like Claire Huxtable. To answer your, I want you to stop right now. Come on, man. That's vintage vagina, though. Just for a minute. That's Claire Huxtable. That's mom. That's vintage vagina, man.
Starting point is 00:18:23 That's mom. Anything that's 40 and up that's aging like wine, That's mom. That's Felicia Rashad. That's vintage vagina, man. That's mom. Roll with me, though. That's mom. Anything that's 40 and up that's aging like wine, vintage vagina. It's too much. You don't want to do it. That's mom. Do you think it would be different, Cedric,
Starting point is 00:18:31 if it was like you and Steve Harvey doing a game? Oh, my God. Oh, that's just unacceptable. That's why it's that. What happened? Them tables turned real quick, didn't it? You can't do that. See, you've got a 90-day rule.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah, yeah. Right. That alone. That's already weird. Then, you've got a 90-day rule. Yeah, yeah. Right, that alone. That's already weird. Then, you know, the mustache getting all on it. I don't know. It just went nuts. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But when you played your role, did your husband say, all right, you know, this is a little different. I like the role. Bring some ladies into the bedroom. No, he did not. My husband didn't even know that. I don't even. He knew I was a lesbian, but he didn't know that Mindy and I were gonna kiss on the show. So he, when he watched it for the first time
Starting point is 00:19:07 and then he saw the kiss, he sat straight up in the bed and then he looked at me and then he looked back at the TV and then he looked at me like, and then he was like, oh so that's how you feel? And I'm like, but you act like, I said I was just acting, it's like you didn't walk into the bedroom and catch me kissing a woman, it was a scene. He was like,
Starting point is 00:19:24 oh yeah, yeah. That's light was insane and he was like oh yeah yeah and he was just looking you know but I mean I guess it's different when it's your rib you know what I mean you can watch TV and see anybody do whatever but like you know his wife had to see top five or did your wife see you in top five yeah she wouldn't look at it
Starting point is 00:19:39 top five you had two chicks in it yeah so it's different when right and it's different when... Right? And it's different when it's your person and you feel a little like, you know, well, wait a minute. Was Mindy like, did you give this morning and we're about to kiss?
Starting point is 00:19:55 No, actually, Mindy said to me... Shut up, Cedric. That was classic. Actually, she said to me after the first time I kissed her, she was like, oh, my God, you're a really great kisser and I can do so much better on this next. Well, and I've had him for a long time, so I know what to do. And and so she just wanted to challenge herself to be a better kisser. So I was like, OK, but it's cool. It doesn't really matter how you kiss.
Starting point is 00:20:26 So you taught her some tricks. Well, you know. There you go. There you go. Is it true that you and Sherri Sheppard once went to go key Cat Williams stuff? Because Cat Williams stood up. She stood up on a date. Yeah, stood up on a date.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Okay. Okay. Here's the thing. The short answer is yes but knowing Cat Williams don't show up for much or nothing well you know what but the thing we did but I was the sound
Starting point is 00:20:54 I was the voice of reason though because I was like wait a minute you know what I mean because she is the one person in real life who I would call if I needed bail money I'm the person she would call if we both in this together, we ain't gonna make it. Somebody ain't gonna make it home tonight.
Starting point is 00:21:10 So I was like, wait a minute. You know, I did talk her out of it. But yeah, you heard about that? How far did y'all get? To his house? Come on, let's move on. That wasn't one of our brighter moments. That's Cedric's barber battle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Why do they always want you in the barbershop? I hope you know how to cut hair for real. I don't know how to cut hair at all, you know what I mean? But it's just one of those, you know, I think, you know, from the movies, from the barbershop movie, it was always that, you know, it's one of those, the real black country club. Like, it's a place where we go, where we hang out. It's just really an identifiable spot of a place where there's a lot of social issues discussed, where there's the freedom to be whoever you want to be, to have a different, you know, type of opinion about the life and everything.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So, you know, in this world, it never really been like, you know, I mean, of course, with all the reality shows, it never really been captured. So but a lot of these guys like like tattoo artists, they just really talented nowadays. They have a real skill set. They talk a gang of stuff. They own many of Subject Matters, and we thought this would be a real cool place to go in and create a reality series where you see guys that can really cut hair and get down, talk a little trash, have a good time. And so we thought, you know, and these barber battles are real. They're out there, you know, all around the country. They have them every, you know, every weekend, cats showing their skills. And so we thought we'd try to capture
Starting point is 00:22:30 and put it on television. So we look forward to doing that on CW on April 17th. Was that something you brought to them? They actually, they came to me, the producers came to me with it early and then I helped develop it. So you know, EPing it and then, you know, shaping it and it turned into a show.
Starting point is 00:22:45 So we did that. It took, you know, over a year to really kind of get it, you know, shaped up and everything. So we were happy with it. We came to New York. We've done a lot of them here, Harlem and Queens. Then we went over to Jersey. That was hot.
Starting point is 00:23:00 You know, a lot of real dope barbers all around, man. Are you ever just talent anymore? Are you just always, like, EP? You know, only, real dope barbers all around me. Are you ever just talent anymore? Are you just always like EP? You know only like on the movies like, you know, like, you know movies but most of the time I try to consult I try To you know have make sure that I can you know Have an opinion on you know what it is that I'm trying to say or or doing in the project So I usually think I'm certain The thing about him Is that He really Knows
Starting point is 00:23:26 His business Y'all together What? Y'all He finishing his sentence Or something No no no Y'all together
Starting point is 00:23:32 Don't get them in trouble At home with him You know what Bill and Felicia Wasn't like this No well listen I want you to knock it off You know his wife
Starting point is 00:23:41 Is kind of from the hood And I don't need No problem Everybody settle down. No, but I look up to Cedric so much because I watch him leading our show, and he's just so smart about it. It's not like
Starting point is 00:23:54 somebody put their name on something, and you're just saying something. Make that black instead of brown. You know, you're just like, oh my god, will this guy knock it off? But he's really not that guy. So, because he is smart, it does make sense, and he knows the business side of the show as well so it it makes sense now who's the diva in the bunch you guys got to do a lot of press who's the diva who takes the longest who's the hardest to work with
Starting point is 00:24:17 who but you know what I don't think we really have a diva. We do have people who are time challenged. Okay. We don't. I'm blaming it on your blackness, Cedric. It's okay. And I'm very dark. I don't deny that. It's real.
Starting point is 00:24:36 It's real. It's a part of my DNA. Yeah. But I don't really think we have. Do you feel like we have a diva? No, no. I mean, it's a very cool set. If you think it's me, you can be honest. diva no no i mean it's a it's a very uh very cool set i think if you think it's me you could be honest no no you you know you're amazing you know you have
Starting point is 00:24:50 a great energy you you know you have you know she's always bright in the morning a lot of love she comes in she makes everybody feel the same way like on the set like all you know and i mean this is like camera crew light grips everybody she's very loving like that and that, you know, that's the attitude that we try to have. So you don't really get a lot of like temper tantrums or somebody just, you know, flexing. You know, she could like she got a lot of shows going on and a lot of things, you know, you'd be like, well, you know, you could be flexing if you needed to. Like I was in Selma. Thank you very much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:22 As soon as she starts flexing, just replace her like the Fresh Prince of Mama. See that? She'll go upstairs, come back, and be like, what the hell? Oh, no. Don't do that. Ain't that the girl from, uh... Maybe coming over to some old show. The girl that used to be with LL Cool J.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Ain't that her? Anissa, you came to the defense of Zendaya. Zendaya. Oh, yes. How do you pronounce her name? Zendaya. Zendaya. Oh, yes. Another name? Zendaya. Zendaya. How did you feel about Juliana's apology?
Starting point is 00:25:51 And did you think her comments were, like, racist? It was very ill-fitting. But what I did think was that I love Zendaya's response. And I just said that, you know, hopefully this will educate, inform, and enlighten moving forward. Because some people don't, you know, you do have some people who are, you know, very blatant in how they feel. And you have some that think, oh, I think that's OK because of the, you know, whether it's the music I listen to or the people I hang around that I could say this and it's OK. And you were not necessarily trying to be malicious, but you were out of order. And sometimes you just
Starting point is 00:26:28 need a polite check. And I think that that's what that email was, just kind of like a, you know, it was kind of like a polite check. Yeah, I think whenever you can just tell when people have been watching Fox News and then they get on their real job, they just say it's some Fox News stuff. You know, you're like,
Starting point is 00:26:43 where the hell did that come from? Because Juliana, she cool people, but that was like one of them remarks that just came from my life. You're like, what you talking about right now? You know, so I think, you know, that it needed to be corrected, and I thought the young lady did a great job responding to her, and, you know, I don't know about
Starting point is 00:26:59 the apology, but, you know. What about when they say it's just comedy? Because you a comedian. You a nah. I mean, you know, she not a comedian. So, I mean, if it was a comedian saying it, you might go, all, you know. What about when they say it's just comedy? Because you're a comedian. You are not. I mean, you know, she's not a comedian. So, I mean, if it was a comedian saying it, you might go, all right, cool. Comedians will push a button and be saying things just for the purposes of it. And if it was funny.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Yeah, exactly. And sometimes, you know, funny misses. But, you know, again, but if you're a comedian, you know that that's the part of the brain that's working when you try something and it may miss. You know what I mean? But when you're not a comedian, that's like, you know, you're a commentator.
Starting point is 00:27:29 You're a person that's, like, on the red carpet commentating, you know what I mean, and reporting. Like, that's a bit bold to take that shot. Is there anything off-limits when you're doing comedy? Is there anything that you won't go or won't talk about? Not necessarily. I mean, you know, I think that, you know, I think you have to be free as a comedian. was something i remember you know coming up early like people
Starting point is 00:27:49 used to think i didn't curse at all and my mom used to you know come she would come to my shows and then she you know my mother's a school teacher so she used to always try to get me to use my words and language and all these things but you know whenever i felt like i needed to say something that had a curse word in it or the way that it felt, the way I felt about it, I just like you've got to be free to say that. Like you just so sometimes you can push a joke subject matter. You can say things that may be beyond the scope. But I like those kind of comedians. Like, I mean, I like people that go over the edge and push the button to the other way.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So, you know, I think that comedy, you had to be there free. That's why you have people like Chris Rock that, you know, they push the envelope along, you know, people like Cat Williams, you know, extremely funny dude, like, and he says it his own way, you know what I'm saying? And so the identification of being able to say, all right, cool, this is my voice, this is the way I want to say it, you know, then you have a right as a person to go, I don't really like that.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's not my taste or whatever, but... Did you ever get any real backlash when you said Martin Luther King was a ho? Yeah, man. Yeah, that was probably one of the most controversial times that I had as a comedian, you know, you know, dealing with that, you know, because all the civil rights... Jesse Jackson
Starting point is 00:29:01 called me in my house. I was like, really? Who is this? Oh, Cedric. Oh, in my house. I was like, really? Who is this? Oh, Cedric. Oh, this is Jesse. I'm like, man, how do you get this number? You know? What did you say?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Did you feel like you had to explain yourself? Well, you know, I mean, he had a valid point, which I thought was really great. He was like, the thing about this is that when you put something out like that, whatever you say, you got to remember that these films are going beyond, you know, this kind of core audience that you think you're performing for. And that, so it's going to Brazil, it's going to all these other countries.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And they could take excerpts of that and manipulate it and then show them just that. Like, so you had a whole generation of kids growing up, not off the, I have a dream speech, but off of Martin Luther King was a whole, whole like that's the part that they gonna teach them And so that was his that was his point not you know, I accepted that You know as you know validation in now, you know I also said, you know as as artists and as a person that was just doing this character That's what that character's point of view was and I mean I understand the, and I think that you had to take your argument up with MGM. But they kind of exposed it in Salmo
Starting point is 00:30:08 a little bit. Martin was getting it in. He was getting his rig on. Well, I mean, that was the part about it that, you know, again, you know, people you don't want to live with the truth when you iconize somebody. You don't want to necessarily take away from the fact that they are
Starting point is 00:30:24 this icon and they're this great person on one away from the fact that they are this icon and they're this great person on one level and then that they are individual and a human being on another level. And so these are the things that you do have to be careful of, you know. But, you know, I think that, you know, as artists and when you're doing art, you have to be you have to have the freedom to sell the truth as you see it. So, you know, when people want to show these aspects of it and understand that that is a part of what his legacy is, then you can decide if that was enough to validate, you know, or devalue him as a human being.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Like, you know, like all the greatness that he did because, you know, he also liked girls, like a lot of them. Like, you know, all right, you know. I don't see nothing wrong with it i'm a man i get it yeah you know that story is true for a lot of pastors but you know you try to live in that place to cover that but then you do have some that are like you know here are my bullet holes and my stab wounds this is the life i lived and you know that kind of thing but probably it probably resonated even more because he wasn't the one who was owning it.
Starting point is 00:31:26 You know, somebody else was telling his truth. So it, you know. Yeah, that's the thing about that. Because it's all in hindsight, you know, it's after the fact. And he's passed on. He don't have any defense of this thing that people are like, yo, we got the tapes. And this is what happened. This is what you did.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You're like, well, I could have an argument for that if I needed to, but I guess, or not. So as a Reverend, your character on Soul Man is going to be cheating on Niecy soon. Well, no. I ain't trying to get beat up. Soul Man's like, we really married, Cedric.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Y'all got some energy between y'all. I mean, it works for the show, though. It works for the show. My husband is not in entertainment at all. And the best compliment he gave me, he just was like, you know, I love you. You and Cedric have such a great chemistry together. And I was like, oh, thank you. Then he touched my arm very strongly and said, on camera.
Starting point is 00:32:21 There you go. And I was like, right. See what I'm saying? He just tested you. Right. You got to pop up sometime when I was like, right. He's just testing you. He's got to pop up sometime when y'all came in. Just pop up just to see. Don't he do that? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:32:30 He does pop up. Oh, man. What do you do when you pop up, Seth? What's up, Doc? Jay cool. He cool as a fan, though, to be honest with you. But I be playing with Niecy a lot. I remember one day I was playing with her.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I was like, yo, he was doing this whole lovey play thing. And it was like maybe about 10 minutes later, he looked on his head. I was like, oh, man, that would have been horrible. Your wife don't ever pop up? Yeah, my wife pop up, too. She's like a cat. My wife's so quiet. She's very stealth.
Starting point is 00:33:02 She pop up and be gone. And they be like, your wife was here. I was like, oh, hell no. What what you think is there rules and parameters though as married couples like when you're playing a married role is it is it rules and parameters in your real relationship like all right don't do this don't do that don't do this well what i well i mean i mean i guess everybody is different you know but for me and mine, you know what I mean? If I don't have to kiss another actor with tongue, if it really don't call for that, then I don't do it just because it's a kiss.
Starting point is 00:33:36 You know what I mean? That's kind of like the only thing in my situation. No tongue. No, I mean, not if I don't have to. I mean, yeah. Okay. Well, Cedric was skeeting on women all in the bedroom in my situation. No tongue. No, I mean, not if I don't have to. I mean, yeah. Okay. Well, Cedric was skeeting on women all in the bedroom in Top 5, so I can see why he had no parameters. Yeah, I just asked. I asked my wife, is this
Starting point is 00:33:53 cool or am I going to have to skeet on these girls? She knew what that was? I don't skeet, skeet. I got skeet on these hoes, baby. Look, this is, and it's just in the script. Look, here it is. I didn't write it. I'm just acting, but you cool with it?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Well, March 18th, TV Land, The Soul Man returns for its fourth season. We appreciate you guys for joining us. Thank y'all, man. Cedric the Entertainer, Niecy Nash. Yeah. Breakfast Club, good morning. Yep. Had enough of this country?
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