The Breakfast Club - Chloe Bailey Talks New Album "In Pieces", The Haters, Beyoncè + More

Episode Date: April 21, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got our Nyla hanging with us this morning. Yes, yes. And we have a special guest who Charlamagne claims is a family member. I don't know why you keep saying this. And we say this all the time because when we announced that your album came out, he didn't even know your album came out, and I forced him and made him buy it. That is not true.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Wow. Oh, cuz. That is not true. Chloe Bailey, ladies and gentlemen. And we played the song. I played the Missy record and the Chris Brown record that morning. Why are you trying to get my family in trouble? We did, but I had to make him download the record because he didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:00:34 That's not true. Well, you know now. That's right. You said you bought it. You bought it, right? We don't download music. But you said you bought it. I see.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Loyal. Listen, In Pieces is out right now. Okay? Did you buy it? All right? Did all y'all people online complaining, making noise buy it? I streamed it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:48 How are you feeling this morning? I feel great. I'm so happy. Like, the past two days, I've been feeling, like, great, to be honest. The week and a half, like, before, it was, like, a little rocky, but tour kind of been getting me out the funk because the shows have been amazing. They've all been sold out, and everyone's singing every lyric to every song. So I'm like, the love is real in real life.
Starting point is 00:01:08 So I've been feeling good. Why were you in the funk? I know you wasn't letting these digital dickheads on the internet get to you. Well, I mean, like, we're all human. So, of course, some things are going to bother you. And I think when you put so much time and effort into the art of everything, and it's really a conceptual album. My executive produced it.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I produced on 12 out of the 14 songs on there. I had a lot of incredible, like amazing talent on the project. So I was just like, it's okay. Come at me, bro. So I'm ready for what's next to be honest.
Starting point is 00:01:37 What's the title mean in pieces? Yes. So in pieces, it's kind of like a double entendre. So in pieces represents the pieces of my heart that has been left broken from life situations, relationships, things like that. People stabbing you in the back. And then it also means what's left in pieces is the box that people try to put me in on
Starting point is 00:01:56 who they think Khloe is. And, you know, I just have to speak for myself and break through it. So that's what it means. It's like the simp side and then the place of power side. It has to be difficult. Because people have seen you grow up. So it's like they've seen you as this young girl. So now when you're breaking out into your own,
Starting point is 00:02:13 it has to be difficult for your fans, I guess, right? I mean, maybe, maybe not. I'm really proud of my sister and I because we've been branching out on our own successfully and people are getting to like know who we are individually and I'm so blessed that I grew up with her in life so we could go through everything together and it came to a point where we were so dependent on one another like we were Siamese twins so what forced us apart was her going to London to shoot Little Mermaid and you know me being in LA and especially with the pandemic the
Starting point is 00:02:44 travel restrictions, going to another country was crazy. So as stressful as it was for the both of us, we both had separation anxiety. It, like, forced us to figure out, okay, who's Khloe? Who's Halle? So now when we come back together, it's going to be even stronger because now we also have a great sense of self. Do y'all recognize?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Oh, go ahead, Ana. I like that you said that the love is real in real life. Yeah. And I know, like, online, you put, like, a said that the love is real in real life. Yeah. And I know like online, you put like a lot of the ugly comments that people say about you online and one of your performance piece. Is that for every show or is that just... That's for every show. The idea popped in my head like 30 minutes before the first opening show in Chicago. And I was just like, it's over the interlude of I'm Not Worried.
Starting point is 00:03:23 It's like an acapella arrangement of me singing it and I was like you know what I'm gonna put that there because I'm not really worried about what people have to say you know it's just another notch on my belt so did y'all recognize the growth in each other you and Holly like when y'all finally did get back together did she see growth in you did you see growth yes the crazy thing is growing up it was me who was afraid to speak up so like she would be the one speaking up for me. And like she's the Aries. Your younger sister. Yes. She's the like, don't mess with her. And it would always be me like, oh, my gosh, I like I don't like confrontation, things like that.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And so because of that, I had to force myself to speak up for myself because I didn't have my sister right there doing it for me. So now I'm very independent and very vocal and I say what I mean and I mean what I say. And she's recognized that. She's like, well, you're like a completely different person. I'm so proud of her because she's confident in who she is as an individual as well. Like we both were missing that and now we both found it. So it's like we're stronger. That can be dangerous, though, because you a cancer. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:28 So you be in your shell, but boy when you come out that shell. And I was going to ask, did that change? Did that change because you missed your sister or was it a relationship that made you change? Was it writing your music that made you change? What was that change? That's a great question. I think it was a combination of everything.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I think it got to a point where I realized if I don't fight for myself, then I'm just going to be left in the dust. And if I don't speak up for what I want and speak up for who I am as a human being, then, like, it's just going to fall on deaf ears and closed mouths don't get fed. So, you know, throughout the music, I was finding my strength because I was saying things that I was afraid to say or speak up to certain individuals. And then from there, it just grew from that. It was like it just kept growing and growing.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And now it can't really stop. Yeah. I feel like growing up as women, we're taught to not be so vocal. So now that you are being vocal, do you feel like you're being a bitch? Do you feel like you have to turn on a new version of yourself? Absolutely not. It's not about what you say,
Starting point is 00:05:29 but how you say it. You can command a room without having to bark so loud. And as long as you believe in what you're saying and you don't change in that for anybody, people will respect you. Because at a certain point, they know they can't ignore it, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. Was Pray Away based on a true story? Oh, Pray Away. Fuck nigga, fuck nigga. I just learned to hate from a fuck nigga. Yes. So I wrote that song with my girl Jazzy and I kept seeing her like three, four times a week at every event.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And I'm all about signs. Like I don't feel there are any coincidences in life. And I was like, so the final place I saw her. You don't say that now. There's going to be a dude that's going to follow you. This is a sign. This is a sign. A sign that you crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:12 But I was like, okay. So we passed each other going to the ladies room at the studio. And I was like, I got back in my session. I said, wait. So I texted her. I was like, can you come in here? And she played me a few demos. And it was the skeleton of Pray It Away. It was originally called Church. And I was like, I'm in love with
Starting point is 00:06:30 this because I loved how open it was. It was completely raw and honest. And for me, I've always learned to just be the bigger person and turn the other cheek. And it's like, sometimes you do want to get down and dirty and get on that person's same level, but I will never give anyone that power over me. So it's like, you know what, I'm going to pray it away. So it was quite easy to finish out the song because there has been people who have tried me, and I love it.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I really do. When was the last time you really wanted a person hurt? Because that's what the song is about. You want a person hurt but then having to pray it away you know i think i've been growing i think the last time i felt like i wanted somebody to hurt maybe five days ago she's growing five days she said i've been growing how long five days okay all right yeah what was Yep. What was the situation? What was the situation? There's several. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. But I prayed away. When you say hurt, though, you don't really mean hurt. You just mean, like, you want them to feel how you feel. Yes. Okay. Like, but the thing is, we never have to do the work. Like, karma speaks for itself.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That is true. You know? So never give someone power to get you out of your character. But you've never been, like, or you don't believe in like spite. Like I got to get my get back. No, I don't. Because I don't want it to come back to me in turn. So I just let them dig themselves in a ditch.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. There's a record on the album that pisses me off. And it's the total opposite. Cheat Back. Okay, that record pissed me off. We've been talking about this record for the last so why does it why does it piss you off because that's cruel and unusual double standards you don't get a back like that
Starting point is 00:08:14 okay so let me ask you this he's quote he's quote with jay-z okay i'm just gonna that was jay-z i'm gonna swap the roles so say, this is hypothetically speaking, an alternate universe. You're with someone. She continues to cheat time and time again because you love her so much. And she keeps saying she's going to change you stay. But at a certain point, aren't you going to want to get something back? So you don't feel like. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yes. Okay. I'll just break up with her though. Will you? No. We're cancer. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:47 See my point? But have you ever been in that situation where you had to get your, you say it's not revenge, but revenge that way? Because that's revenge. So I have been cheated on a few times. And it's like, in my head, I feel like I got them back after the fact, after the relationship. And I'm like, ha, you'll never know. It's just for like a little internal.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Dang. How did you catch them cheating? How did you catch the person cheating? We said a couple of times. Jesus Christ. Yeah. The two times I've been cheated on, social media. Of course.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Social media? What do you mean social media? Evidence. Oh, you caught them? With their phone? No, I've never gone through anyone's phone. What on social media? It was posted such and such.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It was multiple things on social media. And then evidence like panties and hair ties. Let me ask you a question. When you asked him, did he reply yes ma'am? No. They try to deflect. Damn. That's my sisters or something? Damn. Did they lie and be deflect damn that's my sisters or something damn did they lie and be
Starting point is 00:09:48 like that's my sisters and my cousins yeah you know how it goes they really said that was his sisters or cousins it's a little something like a woman that was around but not another woman did you break up immediately or did you feel like? Okay. I did. Good for you. And I block. Because we're cancers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't want to see my phone blowing up.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I don't want to see loving long text messages because I don't want to be a simp and crawl back. That's right. And we love so hard that when you do us dirty, it's a wrap. Yeah. Do you double back at all? I did one time. And I was like, nope, it ended for a reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Answer this question. What does cheating back actually accomplish, ladies? Seriously, when y'all really think about it. What does cheating back actually accomplish? This really hurt you, didn't it? I could flip it right back. What does cheating in the first place accomplish? Jesus Christ, Chloe.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Does it just build up your esteem and ego? Damn. Is it just because it feels good in that moment? Yeah. Yeah, it's all ego. Like, I feel like for women sex is about love and like the connection and for men i do feel like it's not as like connection based as it is for us but at the same time when you say you love and respect someone
Starting point is 00:10:54 you can't disrespect them publicly by like you know you're right and even spite like get back sex like is out of spite the women don't really want to do it we're really just doing it because we're so angry because the after feeling of the guy you did is like yeah what is y'all talking about sex i'm just saying like this conversation i'm gonna go over there getting upset now this is getting out of hand in here before we get back to music was that what changed you and made you more outspoken? Because you talked about outspoken because in those situations, you can't be quiet. You have to be outspoken and say your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:11:33 That wasn't what changed me. It was other things that didn't have to deal with a man. And I'm happy to say that I'm not phased or the way that I love or go into relationships and stuff isn't phased because of how someone else has done me wrong in the past because that's a them problem not a me problem and I think a lot of times us as women when something like that happens to us the first thing we think is what was it that I did was it was I wrong is there something I could have done better things like that but no that was like in the middle to the end kind of stage of it I had COVID actually and Teron who I wrote Have Mercy With and Told You with Missy Elliott he sent it
Starting point is 00:12:13 to me it was just the guitar and his vocal it was the first two verses and the hook and I was just getting out of relationship and I was like depressed and miserable I had COVID in my apartment and I was getting cheated on. I was like, you know what? So I immediately, I set up my stuff in my home studio and I recorded it and it just was so freeing. It was really great. What if he used COVID as an excuse? He was like, I wanted to be with you, but you had COVID. So I ended up
Starting point is 00:12:38 shut up. No, but it was like this, you know, like when it's never like one thing. So it was like, I found out then like the week later I had COVID. So it was this, you know, like when it's never like one thing. So it was like I found out then like the week later I had COVID. So it was like, you know, the second, third week when you're like not talking and getting over it. It's like, oh, but that's why I'm happy. I have music to kind of really put my soul into. And I'm so damn happy Future hopped on the record.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Like you ain't got the most toxic person. But yeah, but even like his melodies and he's just really brilliant and you know in terms of music and i was happy that he got to speak up for the fellas in it it's got a country feel to it almost yeah it kind of reminds me of like how to love with little wayne and it reminds me of four or five seconds with paul mccartney and kanye that's why i loved it thank you i wanted to keep it one more thing about that record i want to go to so does that mean the men that you date understand that you're going to put their stuff in a song? No matter what the feeling is.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Oh, yeah. It's a given. It's a given. Oh, damn. The thing about me, though, is I'll never say names. I don't kiss and tell. I don't want them to put my business in the streets. And I kind of say to myself, I've been single for almost a year now.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And I'm like, I'm open to whatever God has for me, but I'm not year now and i'm like i'm open to whatever god has for me but i'm not like hunting down for it i'm like whatever happens happens how can you trust guys not to put your business out there though because you are chloe badly like you're the talk of the town you make them sign ndas no you should yeah i think it's all about having discernment like when you share your energy with a specific individual like i try to pick knowing they have a good heart and they're not dumb so that ain't what you said on cheat back on cheat back so you said you're gonna find you a thug that's basically what you described you said you're gonna find you a hood dude with tats and all types of stuff to cheat back is that what you're into okay so the thing is i don't really know what I'm into. I don't discriminate.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Okay. You know, I've, like, the really sweet nerds, not about the look, like the thug. I'm from Atlanta. So it's just, like, whoever can stimulate my mind. Like, what can you teach me? Like, put me on game, teach me new words. Because I'm quite intelligent. I, like, this is where I get, like, oh.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So it really doesn't matter how you look. I mean, it does. Because I don't want to wake up and be scared. However, it's about, it's about, it's about the spirit first. My last question about that record. Because I think Future, I think Future said, he said you can find yourself fucking on someone else. Do y'all really believe that?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Oh, so when I got the verse in, I felt that in my spirit because he was like, okay, so you finally know who you are as an individual because you had sex with another man. And how like passive aggressive and so like, oh, is that statement? That line's my favorite. The I should have put cameras in the crib line is my favorite. I don't want to talk about this. Break that bar down again. Break that bar down again. The I should have put cameras in the crib line is my favorite Camera with the exact bars, but he said you can find yourself fucking on someone else. Yeah, he said he goes shawty Finally found herself fucking on someone else But he don't mean like found herself. Yes, right or he does. Yes., he does. Yes. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:15:50 But like I the reason because I'm a pretty fair person, it's all about perspective. The reason why I love that line so much is because our power doesn't come from opening ourselves up to another individual. Our power comes from internal and self-love. So as petty as I am being on the song and it's like, yeah, I want to hurt you just as much as you hurt me. Even when I do that, will it make me feel better at the end of the day and that's why I really love that line because the only thing you accomplished was getting back at him but you still haven't found yourself you're still insecure and crying questioning why am I not good
Starting point is 00:16:16 enough so that's why I love that line because it was like I got to read the fellas and he got to read the ladies who do you talk to when you're going through all this stuff when he's fucking big. My godmom, I call her, I rant. Me, her, and Halle have a whole group chat. Man.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Godmom, I never wanted to pull up on some of these dudes. Oh, she has wanted to. She's from the Caribbean, so she's gangsta. I love that. One of your favorite records is Bodydude, right? Yeah, my favorite one is Bodydude. I feel like that should have been the single. Like that one, that's a good, especially now that the weather's getting warm and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:16:49 But why did you start the record like that? Why do you ever wonder who else is fucking your man? Yes. Okay, so I wrote Body Dew after I found the panties. Jesus. Yes. And it's like, you know when someone's not good for you but there's something within you that just misses them you miss their touch you miss like the connection that you have so what i really
Starting point is 00:17:12 i wrote that song in five minutes because i was quite angry but i love the juxtaposition of how fun it sounds like you're just shaking ass but it's quite toxic and sad and it's like i can't trust you as far as i can throw you i can't't trust what you tell me, but I can trust what that body do because you're right in front of me. So does that mean body language? Yes, like what goes on behind closed doors. That girl wanted you to find those panties too, by the way. I think so.
Starting point is 00:17:36 That girl wanted you to find those panties. I think so. She knew who you was. She was like, I'm going to leave this right here. They were nice. Her panties? Hers. I never fault the other woman because I'm not in a relationship with her. I didn't do that. I didn't touch her smell. They're nice. I never, hers, I never fault the other woman because I'm not in a relationship with her.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I didn't do that. I didn't touch or smell them. They're not. What did Walmart tell you? That's how you really kill them. I don't know. You said they were nice. I wasn't paying attention that much.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I like that you said that. I've heard a few men say, like, why do they never be mad at the woman for knowing I have a girl and they're doing X, Y, and Z? Because, like. And I don't agree with that sentiment. Yeah. I've heard men say that.
Starting point is 00:18:06 That's, I don't like how society has taught us as women to compete with each other. Like, if you flip it again, if two dudes find out about each other, they're not calling each other, going back and forth. Oh, so let's compare stories. You're right. They're just moving on because they're not in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:18:23 They're bashing you. Yeah, the immature you. Yeah. The immature ones. Yeah. But. I don't think no dude is going to leave a sock and be like,
Starting point is 00:18:29 I want this other dude to find my sock or whatever it may be. Some men are petty. Men will do a pull up though. They'll definitely pull up, try to make it awkward or something like that.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Oh, that's never happened to me. Has that happened to you? That hasn't happened to me, but I watched it happen to my friend. Oh, I would be sitting there with some popcorn. Why did you say the panties were nice though? Has that happened to you? That hasn't happened to me, but I watched it happen to my friend. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I would be sitting there with some popcorn. Why did you say the panties were nice, though? They were cute. That's what I said. They were cute. But she left that there. She wanted to come with the panties. That would scare the hell out of you. Your woman would be like, I found a cute pair of panties.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And I know they're not mine. Whoa. I walked out the door. Damn. Yeah. Was he quick on his feet, at least? No. What can you say there's no answer to that
Starting point is 00:19:09 they're mine the thing about women shut up that's a good one that's a good one now what happened if he said they're mine they are mine
Starting point is 00:19:15 that's a different conversation I'd be like you know baby do we need to discuss some things right they are mine yeah I'm glad you asked that conversation might be easier
Starting point is 00:19:24 than the other one you know what I'm saying i'm just saying now what was it like recording uh i want you to feel me cry and make it look easy because both those records felt very personal oh yes okay so this album is quite toxic to be honest um feel me, as emotional and sad as it sounds, it's actually a quite sexually liberated song. You know, it's double meanings to Feel Me Cry. And then with Make It Look Easy, that one was the most personal song in the record. I went into the studio trying to just like forget what was going on in my life and I thought I was just gonna make like some fun shit and I heard these simple chords and I just started writing usually I'll go in the booth and freestyle a bunch of melodies and then like Frankenstein it together
Starting point is 00:20:16 but I was just coming up with the melodies and writing it at the same time and I was crying while I was writing it and cutting in the booth and even after listening to the demo to hear if I wanted to fix anything I couldn't listen to it for a while because for the people who know me personally like it's a way deeper meaning like with hidden messages and what certain things mean within the lyrics so I'm really proud of myself for being so open and honest and I was like I can't create a conceptual album about heartbreak and being left in pieces without being completely honest like yeah I can't create a conceptual album about heartbreak and being left in pieces without being completely honest. Like, yeah, I can talk about relationships and friends stabbing me in the back. But it's like, why not talk or cover the other things?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Because mental health is real. Anxiety is real. Feeling like you're not good enough is real. Feeling like you don't want to be here anymore is real. And I've been through all that. So I was like, if I'm saying I'm going to be honest and I should put it within the music. And I didn't really care if it sounded like a single or anything I just wanted to speak my truth so that was the last song I wrote that I put on the album that's one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:21:15 records on the album because I feel like you know thank you back back in the day when we was coming up you would see child stars and then you would all of a sudden see child stars just lose it and go crazy but nobody ever documents that. I feel like you was documenting that process in that record. Yeah, that's one thing I'll say about myself. I'm a lot stronger than I ever thought I was. And I'm really proud because of the shit that I've been through. I have not let that change me or my character as a human being.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And, you know, hurt people hurt people and the cycle continues. And that's stopping, like, with me. You know? Have you gone to therapy? Oh, yeah. I have a therapist. Yeah, absolutely. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I think it's really important, to be honest. Like, we go to the gym to exercise. We brush up on, you know, our lash extensions and our hair and go into the barber. We should also do that internally. I had a session last night with my therapist. Mm-hmm. And it helps so much.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Absolutely. Are you off the internet as much now? Cause I know you're on it, you watch it. So here's the thing. I'm sure your therapist says that's the major thing. You gotta stay off of social media. She does, as well as my godmom. She's been trying to, she sees me going on it.
Starting point is 00:22:19 For me, before it was easier to just like delete the apps off my phone. But now I'm on tour. I'm trying to promote my album. Like I can't just get off of it like I want to. It's a part of my business. So I have to like monitor myself because you can get down the rabbit hole and things like that. And I'm not going to sit up here and lie and be like, oh, yeah, like nothing bothers me.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I'm great because that's a lie. But at the end of the day, it's like you have to fall so you can get back up and be stronger and you dust your shoulders off and you get back up that's right so for me i know the work that i put into everything i know the good energy and the good person that i am and that will just come back to me so sometimes you gotta say fuck it though like i know he doesn't have twitter app on his phone. I only read the first 10 comments. Those are the people that follow me. Everything else, you're on your own. Or the spam. Yeah, you don't. But my wife does and she reads every comment. But sometimes, you know, she said it doesn't affect her, but it have to. All that the negative energy has to affect you in some type of way. Absolutely. And what people were accusing me of,
Starting point is 00:23:26 like being somebody that I'm not, I saw myself turning into that just based off of what people would say. So every day I'm living my life unapologetically, like I'm very out there and bubbly. I've been that way since I was a little girl. That has never, ever changed. And when I would see people say
Starting point is 00:23:45 oh she does too much or she over sexualizes herself I'm gonna be 25 in like a couple months I'm a grown woman but I think because people grew up with my sister and I when we were younger they can't get past that but I'm like you know what I'm grateful that I'm breathing and whatever I'm stressing out about is not that big of a deal. So you said you became that. So what, you started being more overly sexual on purpose? Oh, no, no, no. I was changing myself. I was trying to cover up. I was trying to be on stage like, oh,
Starting point is 00:24:14 because people are like, just have the mic and sing. I was like, okay. But I express with my body. I grew up in dance when I was younger. It's a form of expression. I don't want to be predictable. I don't wanna be predictable. I don't wanna be mediocre. I wanna be extraordinary and be like something
Starting point is 00:24:30 you've never seen before and it's shocking. Isn't it strange, because I remember the first video that went viral, it was the Buss It Challenge, I think. And everybody loved you and then, and then after a while it's like, okay, now she's doing too much. Yeah, that's the crazy thing. Even before Sis and I got our own Instagram pages,
Starting point is 00:24:46 like, that's what I don't like. When people try to pit family against each other or compare sisters, like, we're two complete individuals. We will not be the same. And if you go back and watch performances within the group, I was still the same, passionate, moving. No, there's some funny videos of you two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And she was just, like, hyping you up. And before, people would, like, praise that, moving. No, there's some funny videos. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hyping you up, yeah. And before, people would praise that, and it seemed like once I found confidence and my power within that, people would then try to weaponize it because no one ever likes to see a black woman be confident within herself.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Once you claim that, it's a problem. Speaking of pitting people against each other, the internet felt like Beyonce should have done more Once you claim that, it's a problem. Speaking of pitting people against each other, the internet felt like Beyoncé should have done more in regards to promoting your album. What do you have to say about that? I love Bey, and she supported my sis and I since we had our little locks on YouTube. So it's all love over here. I love her.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Do you feel like the label could have supported more and pushed more? That's what nobody talking about. Everybody want to blame beyonce where was the label at well i feel like it's all politics but this is what i'll say god's plan is always greater than any plan i could come up with and i'll tell you why i shot swarm and praise this last year i didn't know when those were coming out swarm you know whether it's negative or positive, everybody had my name in their mouth, maybe a week or an a half or two before my album. Then I was able to use, because Praise This is with Universal, shout out to Will Packer and Tina Gordon. I love them. I got to do this whole full press junket, going all these morning shows,
Starting point is 00:26:21 going all these talk shows, Jimmy Fallon, Drew Barrymore, all these morning shows going all these talk shows Jimmy Fallon Drew Barrymore all these great things to talk about the movie and because God is so good I was able to finesse that and also promote my album so I am grateful that I have multiple avenues and multiple ways that I can make money and promote myself and it's hard but I love it and because of that that shows me that what god has for me will be for me and i think that's what we all have to realize when we're fighting for ourself and fighting for a dream that no one can stop what god has for you so and now i'm on a sold-out tour like as much as everyone was talking stuff you know how does that how did that make you feel because i know you're on you you watch your social media so I'm sure you've seen you trending and they were saying Beyonce didn't post it and
Starting point is 00:27:08 because Beyonce didn't you know everybody's into it looks like it was your birthday nobody posted it's the same thing they said that Beyonce didn't post it and people were talking about how did that make you feel of course when people talk anything negative about me it's gonna hurt my feelings but I was like at least they're talking and at least people go listen to the project. And as much as people try to bring up numbers and things like that, I'm trending every other day. Marketing can't buy that. A label can't buy that. So people care enough to constantly have my name in their mouth.
Starting point is 00:27:38 So I'm doing something right. And, you know, if it was real what people were saying, my tours wouldn't be sold out. People wouldn't be singing word for word on the album I just dropped a week and a half ago. So that's what I have to switch my perspective to instead of allowing others and people who aren't doing anything with themselves or their lives dim my light. And I told you it's a marathon, not a sprint. Like, you got great records on this album.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah. You could be platinum this time next year. you don't know people don't know yeah like singles sometimes the biggest ones take like eight months to pop off and that's why i love you because your your love is real behind doors and behind the cameras and stuff because when i saw that i was like yeah i i don't want to be a flash in the pan. I'm in this for the long haul. It's not my first project. The only thing that did sting is because as technical and musical that I am, I would be in the studio nights and nights
Starting point is 00:28:37 on top of nights not sleeping. Me and my female engineer, shout out to her. Women in STEM. But we would just be there burning the midnight oil. I would pay attention to the BPM transitions and the key changes into the next song. And it's truly a conceptual piece and body of work. So when you put so much time into that as a skilled musician who knows what they're talking about,
Starting point is 00:28:57 when people like will just to be mean, say Empire Music or things like that, it's like, well, maybe listen to the album. Word. Yeah. Great album and I'm sure also too Beyonce has done a lot for you that people probably don't see. Everybody puts so much
Starting point is 00:29:12 stock in social media like you're here because of Beyonce in a lot of ways Yeah. Like we would sing all her songs on YouTube and things like that so it's funny. I've always loved her since I was a little girl. So you talked about stepping into your sexuality on the album and obviously we've been seeing it in the music videos and stuff like that but swarm that clip that was
Starting point is 00:29:31 trending on Twitter it was people were making it sound like I'm getting calls like did you see did you see I'm like I guess I'm gonna look at it and then I look and I'm like it's really not that it's two seconds yeah it's really not that bad. It's two seconds. Yeah, it's really not that bad. Jesus Christ. For a fall, that's like 10 minutes. Man. Okay, so. For a fall, that's 10 minutes. Jesus. Man, y'all don't ever think about us.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Y'all know, right? Never think about us. Jesus. Because God is good, blessings are flowing. I'm an actress as well. And what I love about acting is that I'm not Chloe whenever I'm playing that certain character. And shout out to
Starting point is 00:30:05 Donald Glover, Janine Neighbors, Dominique Fishback and Damson like we had the best time and when I was shooting on that set I fell more in love with acting I barely wore makeup everything was shot on film in music you win and thrive off of being this image of perfection or whatnot like you get clowned for messing up or tripping or falling on stage or looking a hot mess on the carpet. But with acting, that's where the beauty is with all of the flaws and, you know, the imperfections and things like that.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So I fell in love with the script. Now, I totally like didn't even connect, oh, I have to do a sex scene. I've never done a sex scene before. And I was like, okay, well, I'm not the focus of the scene it's really about the shock value of Dre and Khalid watching each other and like you see the obsession between the sisters form at the beginning was it awkward shooting no no you see me for two seconds in the mirror and and you did not see titties you did not even see crack you saw everything you saw everything
Starting point is 00:31:06 that you see from me on stage what like let's keep it real did you have to call like when you told your dad hey dad this is the scene or you know what how was that conversation because the dad's still gonna be a dad my daughter's 21 and i don't care for sure yeah i feel like dads will always look at their little girls like they're still little. Absolutely. And that's totally fine. One thing I will say about my parents is that they know this is our job. So what was the call? You called them, hey, dad. Hi, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:33 How you feeling? I just finished shooting. What did you shoot? Go. Okay, so it wasn't about the shoot. It was about when I first got it and, you know, when the agents would call and be like, hey, congrats, da, da, da, da. And after I got it, I think my dad read the script
Starting point is 00:31:46 and he's like, oh, okay. I was like, yeah. He deleted Twitter. Okay. He said, I'm not on this week. Did dad go to the premiere? No, it was just me. I had to hop on a flight right after.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I bet you the internet doesn't realize how much more money they make you. Because if a two-second scene caused them to lose their mind like that, all that's gonna make other people say oh we gotta get chloe in our movies yeah we gotta get chloe god is good show we gotta get chloe endorsement deals i like how you were saying see she said it's working when you say like acting you can be imperfect and the music has to be perfect why can't you
Starting point is 00:32:21 bring the imperfections to the music because i think think what's dope about Cardi B is that you can hear she's from the Bronx. You know what I mean? And the Spanglish she uses sometimes. Why can't it be both? Well, I do do both, but that's what people ridicule me for. Yeah. Being imperfect. Not being the type of image they want me to be.
Starting point is 00:32:43 So, people say they want certain things, and then when you do it, that's what they used to pick on you. The weirdest thing is when people say things like, she don't know who she is, she's not being herself. You don't know her. Thank you. You don't even know her. I'm sure they'd like me if they'd meet me.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I'm a really nice person. I wanted to ask, you're on a sold-out tour. Yeah. Does that mean that you're not going to be a special guest or that you are going to be a special guest on somebody else's tour coming up? Well, I'm definitely— I'm trying to ask, are you going to be opening for Beyonce? I'm definitely going to see the show, for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And it's been exciting, like, seeing what I've been doing for myself. Like, I've never headlined a solo tour ever. Sis and I never got to do it for Ungodly Hour because we were in the midst of a pandemic. So I really didn't know what to expect going into it. Like when I announced it, even before the album dropped, I was a little nervous. Like would people want to come? Things like that. Every night I'm like telling my godmom and my team, I'm like, what do you see out there?
Starting point is 00:33:39 Like people out there? Like for some reason it doesn't click that people are there to see me. Correct. And it's sold out and i think when you're constantly used to people telling you otherwise a part of you as much as you don't want to begins to believe it but then when i step out on that stage and i see it and i hear it it's not like people are just watching me being quiet like they're singing the words back to me they're giving me that energy and that love. You can't fake that. You can't buy that and make up numbers.
Starting point is 00:34:09 You can't do that with that. That's real. So as long as I'm connecting with the ones who love me and I'm doing what makes me happy, that's really all the fuck that matters. And it's also okay to have your people say, don't ask me no fucking Beyonce questions. I love Beyonce, but I'm my own entity, right? Because I mean, I'm sure Kelly, Michelle,
Starting point is 00:34:24 everybody's gone through that, that has stood next to that great person we call Beyonce. So, okay, you know what? Tell them don't ask me no Beyonce questions. Yeah. I mean, she is Beyonce. Everybody wants to know about her. So I'm just like, cool.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Like, I don't really look much into it. Are you going to be opening up for her, though? Oh, my God. Shut up. Say exactly what he said. Don't ask no fucking questions about Beyonce. One good time. He's my family. Let's practice. Let's practice. Let's practice. So are Don't ask no fucking questions about Beyonce. One good time. He's my family.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Let's practice. Let's practice. Let's practice. So are you going to be opening up for Beyonce? I plead the fifth. No, say don't ask no fucking questions about Beyonce. Okay, okay. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I'm nice. Okay. And you're my family. Now I do cuss. Are you going to be opening up for Beyonce? I don't know. Now you're really going to cancel. We was definitely going to take that clip though and be like,
Starting point is 00:35:11 Chloe said don't ask me no fucking questions about Beyonce. That was going to go everywhere. No, that would be great. Now with all the critique you get from being a music artist. By the way, she said she didn't know. She didn't say no. She just said she's not saying it. We heard.
Starting point is 00:35:21 With all the critique you get from being a music artist, does it make you just want to stay in acting? Because of the freedom that you get in acting? That's a really great question. And in this past week, that crossed my mind a few times. And I got over it like two, three days ago. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And I was like, when people make you doubt and especially as creatives, we already doubt everything we do. So you begin to think like, oh, well, maybe this isn't for me, but then I would be going against the exact reason why God put me here. So why like pray it away? Never lessen yourself to please somebody else. And that's in everything. Not even just me, not people in the business, not. It's with everything. And I think why I love make it look easy so much. I was in New York a couple months ago and this was when I was like listening to the mixes and like I'm so technical I will obsess over the two empty seconds at the end when it comes to mastering
Starting point is 00:36:28 anyways I was listening to it and I saw a single mom with her child I saw a man who kind of looked really sad with his briefcase and I saw a homeless man all while like make it look easy make it look easy make it look easy was playing and in that moment, okay, I'm doing what I've been praying for, that I heal through my music because it's bigger than me. Like when I leave this world, I want my music to make a difference. When people come to me and tell me because I'm open about my mental health journey and how I was struggling with even staying here, they say that that saved them because they felt less alone. so that on its own holds so much more weight than anything you could ever put in comparison to that when you get stuff like that
Starting point is 00:37:13 numbers don't matter awards don't matter i'm not doing it for that i'm doing it because it makes me happy it's literally like my favorite thing in the world love that so well i got i got to ask you about um they're making me ask, about I Heartland. Oh yes, I Heartland. I don't know what that is. Show me what it is. We don't know either.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I do, no I do, I do, I do, I do, I do. Shout out to I Heart, shout out to I Heart. Thank y'all for playing my songs, thank you. For me, I did like a five song concert. Okay. And it was amazing. I got to do it in front of an audience like 150 people I think of like my closest fans
Starting point is 00:37:47 and this was before the album even came out. So it was the best. It was me with a band and it was great. So I actually really love it. It turned out really nice to be honest. It airs this Friday at 7pm. They haven't told me where it airs. Charlamagne know where it airs? iHeart.
Starting point is 00:38:03 That's so well. iHeartland. Oh, Metaverse. Oh, the Metaverse. I got it. Online? You see, they didn't tell us much about it.
Starting point is 00:38:09 They just said, ask about iHeartland. So that's what we're doing. So, I'm falling for you. Oh, iHeartradio.com slash iHeartland.
Starting point is 00:38:17 No, that's it. That is it. iHeartradio.com slash iHeartland. I'm sorry. You're such a journalist. No, you're good. I'm falling for you.
Starting point is 00:38:22 You're talking about I Don't Need a Man. That's the interlude, right? Yes. Well, like, where were you at when man. That's the interlude, right? Yes. Where were you at when you came up with that? What happened? So that's not me speaking.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Okay. So it's my godmom. Ah. And I had my phone out. She's from the Caribbean. What island is she from? What island you from, godmom? She covered her face. She hates the Caribbean. What island is she from? What island you from, God mom? She covered her face.
Starting point is 00:38:47 She hates the camera. Jamaica? No. Oh. Guyana, Trinidad. St. Louis. I was just there. Charlene was just there.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I was there two weeks ago. I loved it. I had a ball. So we were in the car and God bless his soul. He was really great. He got us there safely. The driver from a shoot, he was opening up to us about his love life, his personal love life. It was me, my godmom, my stylist in the car.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And so it started branching out like the double standards with men and women and things like that. So I pulled out my phone to record the back and forth because I wanted to send it to Hallie and Joe and Branson. And I was dying laughing. It's a 10 minute conversation. And this was when I was filming Praises at the time. So I was in the studio with Dream and I played it for him like the whole 10 minutes because we were just laughing about it. Shout out to him. I love him.
Starting point is 00:39:38 He's family. And he was like, you need to make this into an interlude or I'm going to take it and do it. I was like, you think so? He's like, yes, I take a portion. So then when I sent it to Hall it and do it. I was like, you think so? He's like, yes, like take a portion. So then when I sent it to Hallie, she said the same thing. And I was like, God, are you trying to tell me something? And there was this interlude that I just had the hook on that I really had nothing left else to say on it.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And I was like, aha, I got it. That's it. Because I love the juxtaposition of in the beginning, it's like, yes, I'm falling for you. I'm losing myself because of how much i love you but it's like it flips when you hear her come and say that i'm not laying down and giving myself to a man just to lose myself so it really as a cancer because when i'm in love i give my all and i think that's why i needed to be single this past year so i could put all of the attention and focus on myself.
Starting point is 00:40:26 So I love it so much it even starts off the tour at the top of the show. I love it. Well, I represent you, God, Mom. And since we didn't get clearance for that record, we need PC. Since you didn't clear our voice, we need PC. You can either take it to court or, you know, you can pay us to the side. Whatever you prefer. Come on, Nala.
Starting point is 00:40:47 What else you got? I see you over there in your notes. Yeah, the record that you did with Missy Elliott. Did you guys do that together? I love it. I want to know, what is it like working with Missy Elliott? Another cancer. A lot of tears in that studio.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Same birthday, July 1st. July 1st, yeah. Okay, so first off saying, because of her, it gave me confidence as a black woman to produce. Dope. And like let my nerd kind of fly in that way. So around Grammy weekend, I got the call from Grammys and Harvey Mason because he did the music for Praises.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And they were like, oh, we want you to honor Missy at BMC, Black Music Collective. I was like, are you kidding me? Yes, I love her. Like, out of all the tributes I've ever done, this was the one. And even her manager, Mona Scott, she said that I was on her wish list of people, so it was a surprise that I was supposed to be there.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So I was already freaking out, one, because I knew I'd be singing in front of her, and two, to know that she even likes me and knows of me. So I got out on that stage and I saw her. And I was like, oh my gosh. And I sang One in a Million and One Minute Man. And after I got off that stage, I held her so tight. And I was like, thank you for everything that you've done and inspired me with. And that was when I was finishing the final mixes of my album.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And like two days later, I was finishing the final mixes of my album and like two days later I was listening to Told Ya and the beat is like heavily inspired by her as a lot of the tracks on there are and I looked at my godmom who's my manager I was like what if we got Missy on Told Ya and she gave me the eye and then maybe a few hours later I got a text from a random number on my phone it was Missy and she was thanking me for the tribute and how much she loves me and to keep going and to keep God first and she does not know how much her saying that coming from her meant to me and I got her verse Super Bowl morning I literally cried out on the floor in the hotel room like for 20 minutes because for some reason whenever I'm like going through
Starting point is 00:42:50 something I like make high-energy songs that's how have mercy got started it was like to clap back at all the people saying I show my ass too much and told you I was in the studio with Tehran again I was like man people are telling me I can't do this they're underestimating me and he's like you know what we gonna tell those motherfuckers. So that's why it's called I Told You. So even though it sounds like from such a big place of confidence, it really came from a place of feeling so small.
Starting point is 00:43:12 So with all of that being said, to have an icon like her put her stamp of approval on a song that I wrote because I felt like I wasn't good enough to do this, that meant so much to me. I've seen the change. There was a time where it was still Khloe, publicist, talking points, yada yada. You ripped that up in the last month or so.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I've seen you being you. Yeah, we're human. None of us are perfect and it's boring to act like we are. You got another question or you want to get to a joint off the album? Anything else, Nyla? We can get into it. Okay. I just want to tell my cousin
Starting point is 00:43:50 that she knows I love her and I want to tell you it's better to... This is something my therapist told me, actually. It's better to be slandered than ignored, right? And all the noise is the price you pay for all the good you do in the world. Yeah. Amen. I love that.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Word. Mm-hmm. You didn't download the album, though. Man, shut up, man. Ladies and gentlemen, you an internet troll. Listen, let me ask. Did you download the album? I streamed it.
Starting point is 00:44:15 He's a liar. Okay. Okay, so what was your favorite song? Ooh, good. Now you got him. Now you got him. Okay. You keep wanting to pull him under the bus.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Nope, nope. Tell me your favorite song. You know what? I'm a DJ, so I play the records in the club. So which one? So I play Have Mercy in the club the bus. Nope, nope. Tell me your favorite song. You know what? I'm a DJ, so I play the records in the club. So I play Have Mercy in the club. Which one did you play from In Pieces? That's right. Because Have Mercy isn't on In Pieces.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It might be on the Deluxe, but not that. He didn't even know that. Caught. Yeah, yeah. Chloe Bailey, ladies and gentlemen. I know the record. I want to hear from the album right now. And even though I don't personally, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:48 I love the song sonically, but I don't like what it stands for. Achieve Me. My Future. You want to hear Achieve Me? Okay, because I think that's a hit. All right. We're going to get into it now. Nala, when you were DJing, what did you think was the hit? I think it should be Body Do.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Okay. It got that energy. The weather is warm now. Let's play both then. We're going to play both? We'll play both. We'll play both. Love you.
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