The Breakfast Club - Chris Brown Interview

Episode Date: February 23, 2015

Chris Brown stops through to discuss his collaboration with Tyga on the new album, his community service, his love life, how he has to be careful with what he does while still on probation and much more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are the Breakfast Club. Special guest in the building. Light Skin is back. It's been a Light Skin week, man. Well, last week was, and now this week. Yeah, his partner was here last week. Yeah, yeah. Crazy.

What's up? What's happening? Morning, sir. Hi, how y'all? Are you going to tell us that you tried out for Empire, too? It seems like every light-skinned dude in the industry tried out for Empire. Nah. Tiger, Quincy.

Nah, like, I just started watching the show, just getting into it. I never, I ain't really hear about it. I don't, you know, I don't, and I ain't the type of dude that try out for it. You got to tell me I haven't. I'm Chris Brown. Yeah, I'm not finna just read it, child. You never did no auditions for none of those movies? Like the joint, what was that, Takers?

None of that? Nah. They just picked you, like we want Brown. I did my actual acting coach on set to get it. And then I usually learn from the actors as I go. But I never really kinda, if it ain't something I'm interested in, I ain't really about to. oh if they ain't calling me

Like hey you want to be in this move? Congratulations on getting the tour started I know at first it was a little bit people were upset and you were like come on man You had 10 hours of community service That's what it sounded like At first you know I was uh, it gave me a thousand hours, you know, over a span of time. But throughout that time, you know, I was incarcerated. I had different things that was going on.

So, you know, throughout that time, I mapped it out to finish it at a certain time. But I was getting booked for things at the same time. So I would be going here doing a show. And they would give me the approvals. The judge would approve it. The DA would approve it. I'm like, all right, fine, I'm good. So they had already approved the tour for me to go.

They saw the schedule of it, but I had 100 hours left. So I scheduled it to where when I got back off the tour, I would be done within that week before I went back to court. But, you know, things didn't happen the way I wanted it to. So they made you finish it. Yeah, they made me finish it. What they made you do? Well, basically, the whole time I was doing the remaining of the 1,000 hours that I had,

I was at a boys' detention center. So like prison for young boys. But I would be doing maintenance. I would be remodeling the walls, whether it be painting them from all white, fixing the whole bathroom areas for the boys. They didn't put you outside. I remember the last time they had you outside, everybody was talking about how we took pictures.

Well, we were in fence, like a real jail. So I would be like, you know, cutting grass on the inside part. But I wouldn't be like, you know, visible to the public. You know how to remodel bathrooms and everything? You know, you're going to have to. Like, you know. I didn't know you were so handy. I mean, you're a creative person.

You're painting and stuff like that. Yeah, I wasn't painting in the art form that I kind of wanted to paint. When you're just painting just white plaster and everything, it's just like, all right, this is not what I – this is more creative things I can do. Now, usually when they have guys at the detention center, they want you to talk to the kids. That's your community service.

Like, nope, not Chris. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't – I kind of didn't understand that too. I was looking at the situation like, you know, I think I have more of an understanding of the youth or being able to have been through certain experiences to give them my insight on how not to take that certain path. But I think they wanted it to be more of a labor thing. It's more of a punishment than me to actually help the community,

which is kind of backwards. But, you know, I don't make the rules. I saw you spaz on the fans on Instagram because they was coming at you. Are you messing it up? We can't see Trey because of you. Yeah, you know, and me, you know, I'm never politically correct. I'm always. We know.

You know how I am. I don't really kind of have a filter. I try to kind of chill now, like, just to be like, man, it's not that important. You can't control it. You're light-skinned, man. It happens. Watch your mouth. You can't. I always say he's light-skinned man, it's not that important. You can't control it. You're light-skinned, man. It happens. Watch your mouth. But he can't.

I always say he's light-skinned with dark-skinned tendencies, but he can't control it. But sometimes it's difficult. Like, does that affect, you know, how the judge looks at you and everything? Like, okay, he just did this

and we thought he was doing his community service. He did that. But then he goes off. Do you think that's something that affects... I just think the judge... I mean, I wouldn't talk

about the judge because I'm not a probationer all the way. I would say I don't think it would make a difference. I think even if I was at church every day and do whatever, it would be something to talk about. They have an opinion already. Yeah, they have an opinion. And I think how media has kind of, not saying targeted me because I'm not here to be like, woe is me and all that. That's kind of bull. It's definitely media targeted. Yeah, yeah. It gets old all the time. me, because I'm not here to be like, woe is me and all that. That's kind of bull. You're definitely media targeted.

Yeah, yeah. It gets old all the time. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like the only thing that's highlighted in my career for the last five years is my negativity. You know what I'm saying? But only thing that I can do is put my positive music out

and do what I do and be great at that. That's the only thing that has been successful is the music, and people can't deny an undeniable hit. You know what I'm saying? Percentage. That's the only thing that has been successful is the music and people can't deny an undeniable hit. You know what I'm saying? Percentage wise, if you had to put a percentage on how much trouble you actually have caused on

yourself as per se, how much the media puts on you, what would you say? Um, it's 50 50. I'm not going, I'm not going to sit there and say I'm a saint, but I definitely say a lot of the choices that I made in the past reflect now.

So now I don't have that benefit you don't get the benefit of the doubt like oh oh Chris ain't do that come on now people be like no he did it you know I'm saying because of my past decisions do you move differently now because you know now it seems like people try to start a problem because they want to sue or they want to see you in trouble uh yeah I mean I'm more vigilant of how I my surroundings and where I go like even if a place gets shot up or wherever that club, whatever, I just try to move accordingly and not try to have certain influences around. You got a certain type of people, they're going to bring a certain type of crowd.

There was a story that you were not going to perform at certain types of clubs anymore. Yeah. So that was true. You were saying, let me get out of that element. I mean, you know, I could say that for five minutes, but I love the hood. That's it. That's it. You know what I'm saying?

I got a rule. My rule is I don't talk to n****s after 5 o'clock. The hood can close. You can put a closing time on the hood. I feel you. I feel you. I mean, well, for me, I just feel like that's what, because I'm not a street dude. I don't portray myself as trying to be tough.

I'm just who I am. So I think when I go places and how I maneuver, I'm just approachable. Like I can go places and go to a terrible neighborhood or wherever it is. I'm like, hey, what's up, man? What y'all doing? Y'all good? Or go to a nice place and be like that. But I think just you have to be wise on where you go, man,

how you choose to move around. Sometimes they'll shoot the place up. Do you ever ask yourself, why did this happen when I'm here? Do you feel like trouble follows you? I feel like the story ain't fun if it ain't that. I think after time, you kind of be like, man, I'm always getting in trouble. I'm always in a situation. I think just God gives certain people certain paths.

I think you got to go through something. If I'm just sitting here smiling, hey, what's up? Everything's great. I'm about to put on this glittery jacket and start dancing. It's not going to be interesting. I think people feed off my negativity

because they're so interested in my greatness as an artist. Have you checked to see if there's voodoo on you or roots? Justin, you might have to check. You know I joke that you got some roots. No, I really feel like every time I see something happen, I'll be like, somebody got a chicken bone buried with Chris Brown's name on it. You know, I don't mess with that. I don't mess with that.

I've been known to date a couple island girls. That's what I'm telling you. I don't know nothing about that. You better go to Barbados and just see. There might be something buried in Barbados, brother. Do you ever think in the future you would do your memoirs or an autobiography or something like that? Yeah, I think a lot of people, there's a lot of stuff about me

that people don't know as far as how I got into the game. Just little stuff, like the details, the fine details. I think doing a movie would be dope. I'm actually shooting an actual documentary for my tour, so everything plays in this position, like me being held back on the tour not being able to go out there losing like two,

three million dollars worth of production, tickets, having to cut the show in half just because all the setbacks. But it shows

the beauty, you know, the roads through the crack cement so you're able to kind of travel through the journey

with me and understand. How's it all going because it's six sold out shows and it with me and understand. How's the tour going? Because it's six sold out shows. Yeah. And it's you and Trey and you guys are going to Virginia Boys.

Yeah. How was it? You know, the tour's actually, it's been a surprise because I haven't toured, you know, domestically in almost like three or four years.

So being able to get back on the road and kind of showing the people again because, you know, America is fickle. You have to really win them over

every time every new record is your new record you know what I'm saying because they're like alright but I ain't really trying to hit them so being able to go out there

and be on stage every night and see the crowd packed from front to back now how does that feel because for a while when you were doing shows maybe a couple years ago

they weren't as packed people were against you so you weren't getting them filled stadiums anymore, but now it's back to what it was. Yeah, you know, it's amazing, and it just shows that I have a good job.

Okay. You know, I'm just happy and thankful. Sometimes you gotta let that tell. My hair, right now, I gotta get it redone right now. I'm sweating on stage. That's why I got a hat on, you know what I'm saying?

If you keep dying it over and over, you're going to eventually go bald. I might look like Aaron Hall or Kelly. I might take that route. That's going to be my route. Now listen, let's talk about your relationship with Caruche. You guys are good now, back together. Are y'all engaged?

Nah, there's no engagement. We're just good. Is that really your girl? It's my girl. Stop it, Charlamagne. Why would you not believe that? It changes all the time. I just feel like this is my position on it.

A lot of the times, like I'm impulsive, like I said. I don't have no filter. So a lot of the times, whether it's an issue in a relationship or whatever, sometimes whether it's both party, her or me, we don't know how to communicate sometimes to be able to be like, I mean, let's talk about this before we say some... Right.

And then we back together the next week. Because everybody else is going to just... Then you give everybody else the option to depict our relationship and set their own basis of how we live our life. You know what I'm saying? So I just think, you know, as of now, we've been kind of cool with not being on the Instagram.

Your last little Instagram back and forth seemed like that was it. You know, it hurt me so bad, I hit boo. I said boo. Please tell me Breezy just didn't admit that Drake flew his girl out. Please, no, man. I ain't need him.

I ain't get no money by talking about him. So I ain't, you know, ain't no point in talking about him. But you did do a countdown, and you didn't count number six, and everybody was like, he didn't say six because Drake did the six-guy song. Yeah, I don't get that. I don't remember that, though. I don't remember not saying. That dude don't make me no checks.

I thought y'all was cool. I don't know. I ain't get no money by talking about him. Y'all was in the studio. It seemed like y'all was making records. I didn't make no records with him. Oh, by talking about him. Y'all was in the studio. It seemed like y'all was making records. I didn't make no records. Oh, okay, okay. No, he just was in the studio.

He was a fan. So he must really be ducking the fade from Brown. It sounds like y'all got an issue. Like I said, I don't got no opinions on none of that. He don't make me no money by talking about him. You know what I'm saying? So as soon as, if I get a check, you know, ding, ding. But he not a friend?

Nah, I'm cool. So for you and Caruche moving forward, though, you decided let's just keep this off of social media. Let's not argue and do this, da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, it's better for growth. And it shows maturity when you can communicate and talk through a relationship and understand each other.

You know, so I just rather do that And it shows maturity when you can communicate and talk through a relationship and understand each other. You know, so I just I just rather do that and not not try to, you know, make my stuff as public because people it ain't nobody opinion and people lives anyway. So they can't they can't really comment on mine. It was cute that y'all did the video together, though. Yeah, you know, I did. And we did about a year and a half ago, too. But I just waited to the right point to just put it out and set it up right so it was good you know kanye said in his new record um all your fault he said that karucha can never do no better than you and i'm like where did that come from i mean i feel i mean i feel what he meant by and i'm not saying like as an arrogant statement but i just feel like in any situation when when

you when you when you look at yourself as in certain light, cocky or not, you know, I think, you know, there's nowhere else to go. How many times have I said that on this radio? You know, there's nowhere else to go. Like, even with old girl, you know, the first one. Rihanna. Yeah, who else are you going to go to? I mean, she got a big amount of money. Leonardo DiCaprio.

I know, but that's nice. That's a good choice. But who else in this game is she going to go to? Not in music. Some corny singing rapper? Mm-hmm. Some corny singing rapper named Aubrey?

Okay. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Okay. Like, what she do now, like, you know, I got respect for her and all that,

whatever her choice is, but at the time, two more, who hotter than me? Now, you don't speak to her anymore. You don't speak to her anymore, so there was no birthday wishes and nothing like that. Nah, like, I'm just, we just cordial.

Like, it's like, I respect her space, you respect mine. You know, it's not a, not a like, unless, as you know, too much talking, get to, hey, what you doing? Get the back to her. Hey, what's up, what's up? We gonna hang out? You know, it's just complicated things, man. That's a good thing to relapse with. Relapse with Riri.

Ain't nothing wrong with that. I wonder what made Kanye comment on your relationship, though. Like, do you talk to Kanye or does she talk to him? I don't know. Me and Kanye, we just started getting, like, real cool over, like, the last couple months, man. Like, so, you know, I understand him sometimes. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, a lot of people be like, man, he just complains.

He always do this. The stuff he complaining about, don't be so over the top, though. Like, you know, whether it's music or whatever it is, sometimes how he words it, it's like, okay, damn,

I don't say it like that. But, you know, I can't knock the man for how he feel. You know, if you want to be the greatest, you got to act like you're the greatest.

Yeah, he just left here. He seems a lot more humble a lot more reserved surprisingly yeah that's dope now somebody like justin bieber you know what i'm saying he's he he's got he got low he seemed like he's popped back up and he's trying to have a cleaner image and it seems like the media is allowing it not just allowing it but kind pushing it. I wonder why they don't give you those same chances. It's skin color. I'm light skin, but not that shade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I mean, everybody's going to be like, oh, pull a race car.

Man, y'all know this music industry. It's 1935. You know what's funny, man? It's just a different face. People don't speak up and say how it is, but you know, you got us that can, I can go make a an r&b song that's just like okay that's the best i heard but it's gonna go so far on rhythmic right maybe touch you know a top 40 station but you get another artist different color singing it's the it's the newest generation of music oh my god God, it's so innovative. What for? Why?

You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm not a hater because I love their music too. But it is what it is. You see the difference? Look at the Grammys. Is it easy to get a PR that can help you clean up your image? Or if the media don't want it to be clean, it's just not going to be clean? Any PR for me, they're going to go through hell. I just feel like I'm just going to be real with you, man.

You're not giving up your password to your Instagram? I'm not. I mean, I'm not going to, you know, I might say something, but I delete it later. But I'm going to say it first so I just get it off, you know. But I think PR with me is just finding people because you know what it is? My biggest challenge is to get the gatekeepers to say, okay, it's cool to mess with you. Right.

You know what I mean? And you know what it is? It could be the toughest rapper or whoever it is. We love that guy because we're not afraid of him. You know, he's not a risk. You know, a lot of people, and he usually has to be, like I was saying this to my friends, and I'm not trying to make it a race thing,

but like, you know, I was at this really, really rich party. Like, I just felt awkward there. I was like, because I walked in, you know, a lot of white people, they were just looking at me like, oh, my God. But then when they got drunk, you see what their real feelings is. They get drunk, come on. Yo, man, look, you're the best, bro. I love you. You just really need, like like you're so

talented you just mess up all the time man just like that's what we're afraid of you bro like that's what it is like you know what i'm saying so it's it's just the people that got to take the risk and you know i take a risk every day because i say f it and just do my thing and do what i'm here to do do my music do everything for my fans And a lot of people just don't understand how I've been able to survive all everything and still be putting out, you know, number one records and stuff like that. It's just, I don't have a mentality of looking back and caring. Seems like you don't care anymore what people say. I don't.

It's not even about, oh, he doesn't show remorse. I mean, how much remorse am I going to show? It's been almost, damn near 10 years. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I just feel like if you're not going get over you you're never gonna get over it all right do you think any time um during that whole situation like after we reread you think you may have went too left when you got all the tattoos and you you embraced the thug life you embraced the bad boy image I just feel like I embrace my creativity you know I think I think

a lot of my tattoos I don't have gang tattoos I think a lot of my tattoos, I don't have gang tattoos. You know, a lot of my tattoos are symbols of art. You know, I'm a painter as well, a different thing. So I'm just living in my culture of my time. I think, you know, it's cliche not to have tattoos now. If you're a young guy, you're like, oh, dang. I mean, it's not cliche. It's rare.

It's a rarity if you don't have tattoos but i feel like now i just i didn't i'm not saying i'm pushing the envelope i'm just living my life you know what i'm saying so i just look at it like if they love it they love it if you don't cool but i'm still rock high on the rock because that's what being an artist is that's what being a rock star is conformity is prison to me you know being being normal and having to focus on i gotta do this because this person likes that i gotta do this because that person like no i'm gonna do this and make y'all follow but that's what a leader does you know what i'm saying so i don't focus on the how many no's i get yeah because i kick all the doors down that they put up is it ever awkward for you behind the scenes like Like, the whole situation, I just was at The Real

the other day, and they were like, oh, we don't say Chris Brown's name up here anymore. Well, that's great. That's because you called Tamar. That's great. You can call Tamar.

Love it. That's great. But when it comes to like, okay, like say for instance, Adrienne Bailon, she's engaged to Lenny S., and I'm sure you run into him, or for Tamar with her husband,

do they ever make it awkward for you? Does anybody ever reach out to you and say, no, nobody could, anybody know me, I'm not saying I reach out to you and say, dude, why'd you do that? Nobody could. Anybody know me, I'm not trying to act like I'm a tough guy, none of that, but I get down when I get down.

They ducking the fade from Brown. I'm not running from no fades. I'm not running from that, but I'm also walking the straight path till I get off this probation. I'm going to be honest. I ain't trying to mess up nothing. Nothing's going to mess up my money no more.

So what happens if somebody calls you and is like, dude, come on, that wasn't nice. They're not gonna be able to call me. Like, what you gonna say on the phone? And plus, you probably change your number all the time. As much as you change your hair color, I'll change it. Everybody else that's gonna be around me gonna be able to get to whoever.

If you wanna get to me, you can get to me. But I feel like it's not even, if I'm gonna say something and like how I went in on that on the girls or whatever see mine is a roast I'm gonna roast you like cool

you wanna say something about me well let me just joke but my I don't say the the stuff that be like okay yeah you gotta I say the stuff that's gonna hurt

feel like somebody took a dagger to your vein like I'm gonna say some stuff because because that's how I feel like if you take the time out and a lot of times now I'm getting smart because I'm realizing to say some stuff. Because that's how I feel. Like, if you take the time out. And a lot of times now I'm getting smart because I'm realizing when people are in a panic mode

when they need to sell something or they need to get ratings or whatever, let's poke at Chris Brown because he'll bite on it. He'll say something. And we'll get a reaction out of him because guess what? It's going to bring our ratings to the roof because he's going to go all the way. And then he's going to look like the bad guy and we're going to win. So now I'm starting to realize it. You know, it's still fun to me because I like to entertain.

But it's so hard because people do comment on your relationship all the time because it is always in the news. Yeah, absolutely. You know, different things that happen between you guys. It is, you know, very public. So it's hard to say who, you know, it kind of puts it out there for people to say what they think or give their opinion of it. Yeah. I'm the only person drinking, by the way. Come on.

Come on, man. What you talking about? But sometimes that is a little difficult because you have to realize that when you put things out there, people are always going to have something to say about it. Absolutely. And that's kind of a give and take for me, too. I got to understand that. Now, what about Tiger? Now, how did you and Tiger hook up?

Oh, I met Tiger years ago. You know, I actually was a fan of his like it's just style because i felt like me being in la there's not a lot of guys because at the time yg wasn't really out and a couple other artists that that la is kind of like taking under their wing now wasn't there like kendrick lamar all that stuff tiger was like really the only one out there and i was just like man it's not really no dudes to really hang with like it's like i don't really hang with too many cats but he was always cool you know we would see each other in passing and i was like hey man let's just work on some music and then you know just the chemistry of

how we worked was just just there like you know he could always rap and and elevate a certain song if i wanted to be like okay i like this idea he's all right what if we? You know, so we just try to do it as a mixtape. And, you know, some of the songs we did on our first initial mixtape, I got a Grammy off of, like, a couple of other songs.

Like, so I was like, man, let's just do it for real this time. So like, um, AO, that's out right now.

Right. I did that while I was in rehab, like at the same, right at the same time I was doing Loyal. And I was just like, Knick Knack, I gave us both of the beats. And I was like, you know what?

We might as well just do it. Just do this album. Let's just do an album. Because, you know, the mixtape has such a great buzz and success. Let's just give them music. Because the music we make just for fun is great music. Have you seen him? Kind of.

Because, you know, he's in the news a lot more. You know he's in his feelings on Instagram with the whole Kylie Jenner thing. He pulled a picture this morning and said he love her and she's beautiful. You know, I mean, whatever decision my man want to make, you know, I'm going to rock with him. You know, I ain't going to fight none of his battles. But it's just like whatever decision you make, you know, we see eye to eye on a lot of things. So I feel like I just tell him, I say, hey, man, if you was dating some regular weak chick, whatever,

you wouldn't be talked about. Nobody would care. Like, you'd be like, all right, tiger. You know what I'm saying? But because it's news, just take it for what it's worth. If they saying some negative stuff, run with it. Cool, all right. You know I call you Bobby Bage.

Bobby Bage. 2015 Rob Brownage 2015 and like if you saw the Whitney movie yeah everybody thought Bobby was the bad influence on Whitney but that wasn't the case yeah I always wonder if you feel like you get that uh that same misconception about you too because everybody thinks about the situation with you and Shorty yeah but nobody really knows what happened because you've never come out and said well it wasn't all my fault because you can't really yeah you know for me i think it's a character mode for me because you know i'm saying i think i look corny as hell coming out right now just being like you know what guess what happened this was you know that's not my position as a man i feel like taking responsibility for my actions you know is the

best thing i could do um but also i don't i don't paint a picture of her in a bad light or myself. You know, I think we were both young in the situation. People do crazy stuff. And more times than often, a lot of abusive stuff happens in a relationship, but people just don't bring it out. Like, my laundry's just out there to dry so you can see. Nobody cares if the guy's getting hit. You know what I'm saying? Which is crazy.

And we know how Island goes. He steals it. It's the truth, though. there to dry so you can see nobody cares if the guys getting hit you know I'm saying but I feel like it's more of a I think I think all in all like it is still some but but a lot of past bitterness that I've had because I've taken all the blunt for it and then I can't sit there and be like well what was me because I did partake in what I did and did put my hands on it. It's like you damn if you do, damn if you don't. You know what I'm saying? So I think the thing that pisses me off the most

now is that like even when I was at the Grammys like this year No, but I had left before that even came on. I didn't even know it was on until I looked at my Instagram or Twitter. And then I don't even know the dude. He got a million followers.

It was a domestic violence PSA. It was a PSA, but my thing is, that's great. That's great. If you can focus on that, that's great. Just don't put the camera on me. No, no, but also talk about Mike Brown. Talk about all this injustice that's going on as far as politically and all the things that are wrong with our country.

You know what I'm saying? Don't use the music aspect of music to just talk about domestic violence because y'all don't talk about it on nothing else. You ain't got nobody, no other advocates. I want to see where the awards at and all the fundraisers for domestic violence that all these so-called people are doing. You know, for me, I'm just being real. It's just like, cool.

Depict that and do your thing. And then you got other people in the crowd that are artists. I don't even know half of these people because I don't listen to their music. But I've seen little tweets and stuff. Like, oh, well, you shouldn't let Chris Brown come to the awards then

and all this stuff like that. And to me, that's a slap in my face because it ain't got nothing to do with you. Like, if you in a total different lane and you doing everything your opinion shouldn't be that valid You should worry about what the hell you doing. But I would Oh Chris Brown came over smacking him out But I but the new one is like, okay cool Well, tell me how to get into them pearly gates you because you're so perfect

But I need to know how to get on that VIP list because I want to get I want to get I want to get There to you know know it's crazy those PSAs I don't even think are for you because you own yours I think those are for the people sitting in that crowd who are probably doing it behind closed doors and it's an important discussion I'm cool with the PSA in general

if you want to make that statement whatever cause is helping families and people that's going through the same situation I went through that's great I'm talking about for the entertainers, for the people who have other fans, who people who look at me with a side eye when I'm in there, when I don't owe them nothing. You know what I'm saying?

Because I really could care less if you like me. But I guarantee you, your fans know my music. Are you thinking about marriage at all now? I'm still young for that. Because you talked about babies last time. I see. I can deal with babies. You talked about babies last time we saw you. See, I can deal with babies. That's different.

You can have unprotected sex. You can, but you should want to have a baby with somebody you want to marry. See, I mean, I don't follow the certain formula. See, I'm the total opposite

of the guy that y'all want to give y'all the great answers for because I'm going to give you the remix, nigga in the hood. Yeah, I'm going to give you the remix.

So I'm cool having a baby. Great. The marriage thing, I'm not cool getting you half of what I earned all my life. You know what I'm saying? Like prenups, all that, that's cool. I just think marriage, in our generation, marriage has been distorted to our generation of people because it hasn't worked. Like the older generation, it's worked.

Our generation. What we've seen. What we've seen. What we've seen. And as our culture, as generations from being teenagers to now high school, whether college, whatever, it's all about the turn up. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not promoting the turn up. I'm just saying that's what our mentality is.

Social media, whatever it is. So it's all about what's hot at the time. So those values aren't instilled in us right now. We don't have leaders to instill that. I'm particularly not going to be that leader because I'm going to turn up with you. You know what I'm saying? I'm just going to be real. But we don't have those kind of leaders that instill that.

So certain females, I'm not dissing my female audience, but females' mentalities aren't on that. You know what I'm saying? Young dudes, guys, we ain't trying to get married right now. You got a couple of us, but we not. So I just think as I progress and find out who I am more and more, like in my 30s, then maybe I can be. How many kids do you want, though?

I'm cool with two. One is fine if it's a boy on the first try. Bang. Oh, God. You should have trapped those two already. You should have got Ree back then. No, you know, I would have. I'm going to be honest.

That would have been my ultimate boom. You know what I'm saying? At the time when I was doing my wham wham with both, I was like, cool, get both of them. Boom, boom. Get both of them, boom, and I'm saying at the time when I was doing my wham wham with both you know Get both of them boom and I'm good Do you think you could be monogamous or do you feel like anybody that dates Chris Brown has to know it's to be some threesomes happening, is going to be some other? Dog, you want to talk about Trey Songz? Come on. No, no, no.

So this is my take on it because a lot of people ask me the same question, even just in my personal life. The good thing about it, I think I can. It's just the understanding, the type of woman that has to be able to deal with an artist, not just me, just an artist in general, has to understand that creativity plays a role in everything. Sex, everything. So for me, I'm not saying generally I would just need to have sex

with multiple women all the time, but that's more of a choice for us as artists rather than the dude that works at King Code, unless his game is just amazing. So it's a lot harder, you know what I'm saying? It's a lot harder for us to fight temptation. Not saying we don't, but it's a lot harder for us when a girl can just come up to us and be like,

hey, I want to perform fellatio on you. Just because I like you. That's a very polite way to ask a woman. You know what Chris just did? Chris just basically told the girl, give me some head. But in a nice, creative way. He said in a nice way. All I want is head.

I'm an artist. But I had this conversation with my girl, and she understands it, but I do my best to not cheat and not be crazy all over the place. I always have females around me, though. That helps me write better songs. It helps me be more creative and understand the perspective of what these certain women want. But they know Caruche's position.

She makes it clear. But you said y'all was having threesomes together, so that helps. You know, that was early, man. That was early. That was early days, you know. The feelings get involved was early. That was early days, you know. The feelings get involved, then you got to stop that, you know. Girls start getting involved and be like, uh-uh, why you ain't finished with me? Or there's some, there'd be some craziness, you know.

You'd be like, nah. That's why I don't like threesomes, because I'm indecisive. I don't know who I want to f*** on. I get mad at people. It's a family show, all right? I wish more older R&B artists would have those conversations with you about how girls are in this era because we'll have people come on the show, whether it's to, you know, it could be Jagged Edge

or like The Dream was recently here. I saw his interview. Yeah. He threw a little jab. But I don't think they understand. A little light one. It was a light one. But I don't think they understand girls in this era.

It's not the I want to be in love era no more. I mean, it is in a way, because girls always want to be loved. Yeah, I think love gets outdated. And I'll kind of contradict what he said. You know, I kind of go against what he said as far as like the R&B artists want to be rappers and stuff. No, it's just a different time.

It's a totally different time. When it's a different feel of, like said the turn up era we like I was the first dude kind of giving those hip-hop beats R&B records you know what I'm saying so it's just like when I did Jose loyal that was from a personal experience of me being able to see different facets of of thirsty women's thoughts we angles to call a women's called that certain certain women only attract to a certain crowd. You go to one house, you go to Trey House, same girls.

You go to Tiger House, same girls. Go to Sean Kingston House, same girls. You go to my house, same girls. And you be like, dang, I just saw you at that party. Why you trying to be my girlfriend if you letting everything hit it? You know what I'm saying? So the loyalty, There was no loyalty there

So That's what the reason for that song Because of personal experiences Now In his case I don't know if he gets To do what we do Sorry to say that

But It's a different Age bracket And it's a different mentality Are you saying he don't have the face for it You trying to say he can't come hang out with you In the train I'm just saying He not Chris Brown Right I'm just saying he not't have the face for it? You trying to say he can't come hang out with you and Trey? I'm just saying he's not

Chris Brown. I'm just saying he's not Chris Brown. And he's not Tyga. And he's not Trey Songz. He's a great writer. I could also be hating and say writers want to be artists. It's just not made for them. They can write great songs, but they can't perform them.

They can't sell out arenas. They don't have it. But that'd be me hating. But I'm not going to do that. But you're speaking honest. I'm being honest. Now, 50 Cent. Yeah.

How did you and 50 Cent get up? I've seen y'all at the Barclays sitting on the album. How'd you get with that crazy? See, you know, 50, I respect 50 the most out of anybody. He's crazy. Because, and that's where I kind of get some of my ideas because I just, I don't have time

for being fake. He don't play the politics. He don't play the politics. He is him all day and I'm the same way. So, I actually met 50 when I was 12 years old.

I did a G-Unit campaign with him, with me and my best friend. He'll tell you the story and everything. You had the tank top on? Nah, nah, nah. I had the kid outfit,

the kid G-Unit. So, we did a campaign and I remember me singing for him and just, you know, being on the photo shoot like, man, nah. I had the kid outfits, the kid's unit. So we did a campaign, and I remember me singing for them and just being on the photo shoot like, man, we do music, whatever, whatever. And they always liked our music. But as an artist now, I can understand why they wouldn't just sign us on the spot because we don't just do that. We hear somebody rap or somebody's good. Oh, man, you dope. Cool. All right, keep doing your thing. You know what I'm saying? So that's what it was. As I progressed, when he saw me as an actual entertainer, he was like, I said, you don't remember me?

He was like, bro, you was the little boy that was at the little, you know, shoot, boom. And he remembers. So he always had a respect for me because he knew me from actually a little kid. So, you know, we got into the studio and we always, like, kept in touch. Like, you know, a couple, like, we always like kept in touch like you know a couple like maybe four or five years ago i did a um madison square garden and he came out and and came out on the show but i said yo bro we hung out in la he got on me and tiger's album um and i just got on some new stuff for his album and i was just like we just vibed out and i just i i understand

the insanity in the genius. You know what I'm saying? So I'm able to befriend that. Me and him are both not all the way there, but that's what makes us great. He's a crazy one. If you're having a problem, don't call him. Call Tyrese. He said call Tyrese.

Call Tyrese. Don't call Phil. Go get him. He's that guy. He'll drive you there. Who do you call when you need to talk to somebody about something clearly somebody that you don't listen to

no but somebody in his business who is somebody that you call when things are a little crazy and you're like alright I gotta talk to you know the one person

that I can honestly say that I look up to out of anybody that's you know Michael Jackson would have been my idol but as far as like

character poise, you know, just a sense of themselves and don't need to fit in, don't need to act a certain way, whatever,

it's for real. Really? Honestly. Like, he's, like, one of my inspirations as far as, like, just a stand-up dude, man.

Just a good guy, you know. Virginia's your connection. Yeah, Virginia, you know. Got his own, got his kid, got his girl, like, cool, but just fly doing his own thing on his own time, how he wants to do it. And he's very respectable and understands the game, you know.

So I think I'll take a lot of inspiration from him. So if I really need some real advice, I'll talk to him. You know, a conversation we always have in the industry, and I wonder if you feel this way. Do you feel like you may have missed the moment? Because everybody says Chris is supposed to be the next Michael Jackson. He's supposed to be on the same level as B or whatever. You know, the funny thing is I am on that level.

But I'm not saying I'm Michael Jackson or Beyonce. I just, I mean, if you know you're great, you know you're great. You know, when people say he's supposed to be that, that's because they already know I'm that. I guess from a marketable level, like, you know, he's doing the Juicy Fruit commercials and the movies. And that's based on, that's like high school, like popularity. That's cool.

But if I know that every little kid, the person that's dancing, if I go make a Billie Jean right now and I just moonwalk across the stage, because that time has passed for Michael Jackson, those little kids would be like, Chris Brown did the moonwalk for him. You know what I'm saying? But I won't take that credit. But I know by the dancing that I do now

and the music that I'm doing and how it transitions, because I never just stick to one genre. I'll try to bounce around. My next album is gonna be like universal try to put you overseas for a couple months you know so I think with with my audience it kind of differs because it's such a wide range like like even at my shows like I do meet and greet you you have a 45 year old woman come in by herself no no kids

you know I love you then you have six year old come in you know with your t-shirt on or dressing like how you look in the loyal video or whatever you know you have certain things that you that you reach to certain people you know and i think for me it's just on how i how i progress i can't look back and say i wish i could have did it this way because then i'll be mad at my life. You know what I'm saying? Because I didn't get it to the fullest potential. All I can do now is just be like, you know what?

I'm just going to kill everything I do. How hard is it to move forward, though? Because everybody wants to keep you on all the negative stuff. They want to keep reminding you of that situation. It's only hard when it stops you. You know what I'm saying? It's hard when it stops you as far as legal situations. When this probation is said and done,

there's nothing else you can talk about. You can't keep bringing that situation up because I ain't doing nothing. I ain't still on something for that. I'm done. So it's like I get my 20s back. I got on probation when I was 17. I'm 25.

You're college in age. You know what I mean? But, you know, so me being able to transition now, I get to start over, kind of. Right.

You know, and I just think me just focusing on the music. I think every aspect of the music I do, I like to do stuff that people are like,

oh, I would have never thought I heard that kind of music from Chris. I never, you know, five, six years ago, you would have never thought you heard these

Jose and Lloyd. Or, you know, you'll never hear the, you know, me and Tyga album where 95% of it is me rapping. I might be singing on the hook. Right. But you get a chance to hear me as a lyricist instead of just being, you know, an R&B singer. You know, so it's just, it's just the transition of me being able to be an entertainer. I don't call myself an R&B artist, a pop artist.

I call myself an entertainer, an artist in general, whether it's painting, whether it's anything, because I try to be in every facet of music. Right. You know what I'm saying? Why, and I was talking about the same thing, why do people in the industry pretend to like each other? Because it's clear that you and Aubrey don't get along.

But y'all was taking pictures together a couple months ago. Why are you pretending to get along with a person? No, it's not even a pretend thing. I think what people do is, it's a me factor. It's about me. It's about me. It's about me. As artists, people are selfish because they want to be the best.

And it's only right because everybody wants to be the top person. It's no friendly, it's friendly competition. But on these slots, like when y'all got the songs coming up, Everybody wants to be the top person. It's no friendly. It's friendly competition. But on these slots, like when y'all got the songs coming up, new song, whatever it is, everything is a slot. BTS, all that stuff. Like, I mean, BTS is just, you just have to, you got to be in the number, either you first or you not. Right.

It's not you second or you third. I got the number two record in the country. Nobody cares. I got the number one record in the country. I i got the number one record in the country i'm the best you know what i'm saying so everybody wants to be the best so they have to work for it and friendship gets in the way of that right so people be fake people are fake so they can be cordial they might be fans of the person but i'll be lying if i say everybody don't envy everybody whoever is whoever

is that number one person and it's usually me most of the time and I'll be honest with my records like you know I get a lot of number ones so it's like

a lot of people envy that you know so even if somebody got the number one spot over me dang I wanna get that number one spot what I gotta do to get there man forget they record.

You know what I'm saying? You're not thinking about, oh, man, they deserve that. Oh, they good. You know, you're thinking about how you're going to beat them up that spot.

Right. You know, so the friendship kind of deteriorates from that. So you get the, hey, what's up, man? Oh, man, cool, man. Whatever, man.

Let's hang out. Let's be boys. And then the dude be like, man, I'm trying to get this dude out of here. I'm going to set him up. I'm going to say this. I'm going to do this.

I'm going to sneak this on record. I'm going to holler at this girl. I'm going to like this girl. Yeah, like. Why do y'all all sleep with the same girls, too? Like, that's weird to me. My thing is, like,

I think it's a greed factor. You know, for me, like, I used to do that all the time. Like, back in the day, I was like, oh, that's who Shorty talked to? I'm about to holler at that. I'm about to get that.

I'm about to knock that one off. Because it's an ego thing. You want to feel empowered. You want to conquer it. You know what I'm saying? I think now, mentally, I'm not on that page because I don't care about that no more. But I think what it is is it goes right back to the record. It's an envy thing.

You want to be the best. You want to know why that particular female liked this person so much. And they don't like you. They're not listening to your music. So let me go and try to talk to this person while he's locked up. Because I know if he was out of jail, he'd beat my ass. And he's still probably going to beat the ass. But he's ducking the fade from Brown.

You talked about the gatekeepers. Have any of the gatekeepers ever said, alright Chris, you good now. We're going to let you live. And have they ever told you, you're done for a little while? They said Jay was blocking you, Jay-Z. Nah, I don't think. I never thought Jay was blocking me. I don't think that was ever something.

I think that was just a rumor because he was so close to the situation. I don't know. Because I see him and we're cordial. We don't hang out, but we're cordial. But I've never really met any of the gatekeepers, per se, to be able to have a sit-down with them. But the funniest thing, when I do meet certain people or certain people that are in a position, they're like,

oh, man, I thought you were so much different. I thought you were just like this angry guy, just mad, just hate the world. And that's just the perception because the media can keep you at a certain position and, oh, they can make it look so cold. They can make it look so cold. I was like, dang, I feel like OJ out this morning. Like, you know what I'm saying?

So you just have to, I just got thick skin, man. You know, it's only, I mean, I can take the lashes. We've been getting them all our lives. So I'm going to bring them on. We appreciate you joining us, man. Yeah. The album's in stores right now. Yes, yes.

What's the name of the album? Fan of a Fan. Fan of a name of the album? Fan of a Fan The album Fan of a Fan Well, we appreciate you joining us And thank you for coming through As always Hell yeah, man

I appreciate y'all Y'all look like Ray Shmurman On this album You know what it was? It's like two light-skinned Chris Pratt's Exactly See, she got it right

We were trying to do The 90s era Like the old Like the old album covers Like when people had excitement, had a budget. You know what I'm saying? Fun, colorful. Yeah, we just wanted to have fun. Just bring that

whether it's the EPMD, just that real leaders of new school, crisscross. We wanted to kind of bring that to the excitement of the album. I think our collaborations and how we integrate a lot of the songs and the music, it's just a fun, fresh way of us being ourselves.

So I'm not giving you a Chris Brown album. That's why you see the dreads and the actual thing. Because it's not an alter ego, but it's just a different side of the music that we can create. I always felt like you and Kid Ink would do a whole album together or something at some point. No, I'm going to need a lot more money from they side. I'm going to be honest. I helped that boy out way too much.

You got three singles with him. Okay, I'm on now. RCA owe me a lot. But that's my homeboy. When he call me, whatever you need, boom. If you was a gremlin, I got what? Kid Ink would have popped off. Tiger.

Both them boys off Empire. Those are the bad gremlins. Yeah, he's straight. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Chris Brown. Appreciate y'all, man. In the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own?

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