The Breakfast Club - Classic 2016 Interviews

Episode Date: December 30, 2016

Fri 12/30- The New Year is almost here, so you know we have to continue with the classic interviews. Today featured School boy Q, Young M.A and our shortest interview ever on the show with Birdman, fo...llowed by the CEO from UNICEF. Also, Charlamagne also gave Donkey of the Day to Donald Trump and Birdman believers. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:22 From the East to the West Coast. DJ Envy. Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. The realest show on the planet. This is why I respect this show, because this is a voice to society. Change in the game. You guys are the coveted morning show, but y'all earned it.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Impacting the culture. They wake up in the morning and they want to hear that Breakfast Club. The world's most dangerous morning show. We in the mother... We in the mother. What up, y'all? It's DJ Envy Angelique. Charlamagne the guy.
Starting point is 00:03:55 We are the Breakfast Club. Make sure you donate to UNICEF to help save children's lives this holiday season. Use your cell phone to dial pound 250 and say the keyword UNICEF. That's pound 250 keyword UNICEF to make a donation. We got a special guest in the building. And he came in here playing Pokemon Go. No he didn't. He was. He came up and down.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I'm trying to catch you man. I was watching the interview you did in LA on the rail with Letty. You said you wasn't enjoying the moment. Are you enjoying the moment now?
Starting point is 00:04:29 No. Still not? Still no? There's a lot of, man, it's rough, man. You lose one of your homeboys, bro. That ain't easy, man.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You don't just be like, all right, I'm over it. You rapped about that on the album. He went to prison, right? Yeah, for 100 years, man. Jesus Christ. He just, he gets,
Starting point is 00:04:44 I just got the news that he got 100 years the day my album dropped. Damn. I'm supposed to feel like that. I've been eating, like, once a day. Like, this has been my homie before. I even know he was my homie. Like, he the reason I'm even rapping about this lifestyle. He the dude to put me on the set.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Like, he's only, like, three years older than me, but he's, like, my original big homie, like, real talk. You feel like, what, some survivor's remorse, maybe? Survivor's guilt? That you made it and he, you know? Nah, not really that. It's just more so that just my nigga gone. Like, he gone and all I can do is just hope for an appeal. I mean, you still gotta enjoy the moment. You got a daughter right now,
Starting point is 00:05:18 so that could be some kind of happiness. Man, I'm out here and she just broke her arm. Man, you know what I'm saying? How did she break her arm? You know what? You don't have time for Pokemon Go, Q? You know what? You don't have time for Pokemon Go, Q. You said what? You don't have time for Pokemon Go. You got too much real time.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Man, I'm trying to keep my mind off of it. How did she break her arm, though? Being a kid, you know, seven-year-old. That was one of the reasons why I told people I stepped away from music after my last album because it's just like I'm always doing this type of stuff and moving around, and I'm missing out on my family. I was supposed to be there like my daughter broke her arm And she got like somebody else taking her to the hospital
Starting point is 00:05:51 Sitting in the hospital with her. I'm supposed to be there. This is about to make me sad talking about it You know what I'm saying? You gotta be really steady lovely So what'd you do? You FaceTime her while she's in the hospital? Yeah FaceTime her. She just sleep most of the time. You know what I mean? She on the dope They got her on the dope and stuff. She's going to get ready to go to surgery.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Don't say dope, say medicine. I mean, it's dope, man. It's dope. It is what it is, dog. But just think, before FaceTime, something like that happened and you couldn't,
Starting point is 00:06:14 at least now, that's a lot of a connection that you get to be on the FaceTime and see modern technology has really helped a lot with relationships in general. No, for sure, off top. Well, let's talk about
Starting point is 00:06:24 the new album. Blank Face. Blank Face! Blank Face, 17 songs. You must have had a lot with relationships in general. No, for sure, off-top. Well, let's talk about the new album. Blank Face. Blank Face. Blank Face, 17 songs. You must have had a lot of songs done to be able to pick 17. I mean, yeah, we were going to do a deluxe and all that, but I'm just like, well, I'll do a deluxe. That's like the label stuff that we're worrying about the sales and stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I don't care about that stuff. You never care about the label, anybody. You never care about the label. I don't care about them. They put me in this position. Don't get about them. They put me in this position. Don't get it twisted. Like, TDE put me in this position. I wouldn't be where I'm at without TDE.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Like, you know how I know you care? Because you did the song Studio. That was a huge hit song off the last album. And then I could tell on this song, you have another hit, which you talked about, the song with Miguel and Justine Scott. That record tough, bro. Although you said you didn't want to put it on there. No, I didn't like it at first because, look, see,
Starting point is 00:07:07 when I said at the listening party, I had to say stuff so brief it came out wrong, but I didn't like the song until Miguel and Justine got on. Oh, they wasn't on it. I'm the one that asked for them. I was singing the hook. Then we had, as you can tell, Kendrick still got background vocals. Kendrick was in the background, too.
Starting point is 00:07:25 It's just a little like, nah, I'm cool on that. Y'all know about the force me to use Kendrick on my album with the girl song. Yeah, I can see why that would sound a little weird. Kendrick on overtime? I'm out here with Dave. I'm like, bro, that's a bootleg studio. He's like, no, it's not. I'm like, bro, it's definitely a bootleg studio.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I don't think it sounds like studio, but it would sound weird with Kendrick on it. But nah, I'm the one that was like, get me Miguel at least. So you weren't saying, I hated Miguel and Justine Skye on there? No, what it is, these bunk-ass websites, they put it out there. They didn't even put Justine's name. Schoolboy Q hates the song with Miguel. I never mentioned Miguel. But also, I'll have to say it brief so I can understand why they would
Starting point is 00:08:05 put it like that. You can tell that they're looking for. It's a great headline. They're looking like, yeah, exactly. Put, he doesn't like song with Miguel. Did Miguel hit you like, bro, I thought you said you liked the song. Yeah, yeah. We outed at each other or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I was wrong in the situation. I would have been like, I would have had a letter. You know what I'm saying? Somebody said something like that to me. Ain't nothing you can say to me. Like, you know what I mean? So I had to holler at him and let him know. You probably have Miguel feeling insecure.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Miguel's like, what did I do wrong? No, I wasn't like that. No, I wasn't like that. I'm just like, I had to apologize to him because it came out wrong. As a man, you gotta know when you're wrong when you do something. You know what I mean? I was wrong. How'd you look at Wee A? Man, we just always used to run into each other
Starting point is 00:08:43 and I just had a top calling. Like, I'm not about to go ask somebody like Kanye West status, like, yo, let me get your number. We should do something. Like, Kanye is up here. You're pretty big out there as a schoolboy. No, no, not like Kanye, bro. Kanye is a legend.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Like, he done done it over and over and over and over and over since I was in, like, first year out of high school. You know what I'm saying? You're right. You know your place in the game. Exactly. Don't let anybody gas you up too much. You know what I'm saying? Like, I hate when new artists, like, first year out of high school. You know what I'm saying? You're right. You know your place in the game. Exactly. Don't let anybody gas you up too much. You know what I'm saying? Like, I hate when new artists, like, no disrespect,
Starting point is 00:09:09 but if you just got on the, like, you not even made the freshman list, you asking for my number, and you talking about, let's go to the, let's do this. Oh, you should, like, no, I'm cool. Like, nah, like, unless it's like, unless I know who you are and it's dope, like, don't just ask me for my number, and like, no, we need to get one.
Starting point is 00:09:26 No, we don't need to get one. You still think you're underrated? I mean, still, yeah, so much because people confuse gangster rap with no substance now. But we got the most substance than any artist because for the simple fact we talking about our life, people just be talking about what's on the news. I be hearing niggas be rapping double time and they guess bars. I you did i got better i'm way more cheddar i get more greener i got more i feel like what the he said all that's double time to confuse me i'm not you i'm saying my bad you did step it up lyrically on this album of course i had to man this is i felt i felt like
Starting point is 00:10:00 people were sleeping on me man even though i had big record, I just got to come back harder. I just felt like I just had to come back harder, stay focused, man. Now, you have had some experiences with aliens, because I see you're on Action Bronson's show that he's doing. I had no idea. Oh, they be popping up in L.A. all the time. Oh, yeah, that's what they say. I mean, I don't believe in none of that alien. You don't believe it?
Starting point is 00:10:20 I don't believe an alien. Don't get me wrong. I don't think we're the only species in the world. I'm not believing no alien has a spaceship flying over L.A. just seeing what's cracking in the sea. Why not? No, it's not happening. We got planes that can fly over other countries and all around the world.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But we're not going to Mars. Talk about what's cracking. That we know of. What's going on? Oh, they see us. We got to get out of here. So you never had any experience? What about with ghosts or something?
Starting point is 00:10:42 No, I never had experience with ghosts, none of that bullshit. I done dreamed all that. But you know what I'm saying? You had sex with a ghost too, like Bobby Brown? Nah, I don't know what he talking about. Bobby Brown had sex with a ghost. Nah, man, I need some of that. He got it.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Whatever he got. It's called crack. It's called it. Cog and weed. It's called a wet dream. You had sex with a ghost. I mean, you ain't getting no STD. Run it.
Starting point is 00:11:04 All right, we got more with Schoolboy Q. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. What up, y'all? It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.
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Starting point is 00:11:36 That doesn't freak you out a little bit when you go to your concert and people are looking like you with the hat like that. Yeah, bro, it's weird, bro, people wearing the circle, the John Leonard glasses. I'm starting to see ugly beards now. You gotta salute Philly like that. Yeah, bro. It's weird, bro. People wearing the circle with the John Lennon glasses. I'm starting to see ugly beers now. You got to salute Philly for that. You can't take credit for that.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I'm not taking the credit for it. I'm just saying when I'm at my shows, I see that. And it's a little weird. I'm seeing dashikis now. They already took the bucket hats from me.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Everybody wearing the bucket. I'm like, bro, I had to put that away. That's why you don't wear it no more? Nah. It got a little too weird everywhere I away. That's why you don't wear it no more? Nah. It got a little too weird everywhere I go. Everybody knew it was me off the rip. Like, oh, that's Schoolboy Q.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I took the bucket hat off. People don't even bother me no more. What's the science behind the dashikis? I'm black. Okay. I'm just making sure you named the album called John Rory. You didn't have nothing behind that, so I'm just asking. I saw you said on Twitter you'd just be paying $5. They just cost $5.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah, $5 off of Amazon. How do you get them to match your sneakers, though? I get every color possible on Amazon. I go every week, I check Amazon. They got any new ones? Nope. I done brought them all. I ain't seen no new ones now.
Starting point is 00:12:41 They're reloaded. You ain't got no throwback dashikis? I got a couple throwbacks, like exclusive ones. That's expensive. I got a couple exclusive dashikis now. Remember when Kunta won the Super Bowl in 1737? I got a Kunta one, too. Oh, I didn't think I'd know it.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It says Kunta on it? No, it's just his face. Oh, it's his face. Oh, okay, okay. Now, this Michael Jordan crying meme, people thought that was your album cover. You put that out there like that for people to think that as a joke? Yeah, I did. Or did you really want
Starting point is 00:13:11 to do that, but you knew Michael Jordan was going to do it? I mean, look, the whole thing was I had a concept behind it, because the album was obviously called Blank Face, and I was supposed to put out a bunch of series of pictures, but we put the first one out and everybody jumped on it like, oh, cute. That's the cover.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I never said it was the cover. So I'm like, alright, y'all stupid. Not my fans. The websites, like I said, they TMZ now. You put something out, they want to be the first one to do it. They want the gossip. They want the, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:41 So I'm like, alright, these websites are stupid. Then I threw the Donald Trump one out and I was like, I'm like, all right, these websites are stupid. Then I threw the Donald Trump one out, and I was like, deluxe cover. Now I'm trolling now. Because y'all messed my whole thing up that I was trying to do. I had a whole bunch of pictures, bro. And the first picture we put up, the first two minutes, they talking about album coming. But, you know, that just means people are excited in a way, too. I guess, man.
Starting point is 00:14:00 You put something out, and immediately everybody jumps on it. They're like, oh, this is the album cover. The album's coming. It's exciting for people. Now imagine you put that out, immediately everybody jumps on it. They're like, oh, this is the album cover. The album's coming. It's exciting for people. Now, imagine you put that out and nobody said nothing. That would have been tight. Because they would have got everything I got that I wanted to do with it. It would have been tight.
Starting point is 00:14:14 But, I mean, it is what it is, man. I'm new to all this media stuff still. I can tell. That's why you got flip-flops on. Oh, yeah. Off-tops. Like, you cool. You like me.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm not about to come in here. Like, when I'm going to come in here, y'all know I'm getting money. Like, what do you mean? Now, what does the blank face actually symbolize? Because on the album, you got a line where you say all lives matter. Oh, no. People got that, and they mixed it up. The whole song, first off, the song is called Black Thoughts.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Okay. The whole song is about off, the song is called Black Thoughts. Okay. The whole song is about Crips and Bloods. After I said All Lives Matter, I said both sides. Both sides, yeah. So what does that give you? What does that bring to you? What am I talking about? Bloods and Crips.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Bloods and Crips. Exactly, which means I'm still talking about Black Lives. I flip the whole little ignorant saying All Lives Matter into making it still Black Lives. You get what I'm saying? People not dissecting the lyrics. People are so easy at listening to songs. They just hear all lives matter. Because rappers are whack. People just hear it and they just like, oh, you said all
Starting point is 00:15:14 lives matter. You didn't even listen to the song. The title is called Black Thoughts. So you saying it's only two skin colors? Like, you know what I mean? Like, people always making it white and a black thing. It's not about that. Are you disgusted with the music industry? Because you keep saying these rappers are so whack. Like, you know what I mean? Like, people always making it white and a black thing. It's not about that. Are you disgusted with the music industry? Because you keep saying these rappers are so whack.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Oh, they are. Like, not everybody whack, bro. I just see what everybody's doing. Everybody's trying to make older music. Like, oh, I'm trying to sound like this dude. I'm trying to sound like that dude. Are they doing the same thing? Like, out of tune.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Like, everybody, that's the new wave now. I think the game's a lot better now, though. Because of guys like you, because of Kendrick, because of Vic Minstrel and Chance. I like a lot of albums that came out this year. No, don't get me wrong. It's all the people that's dope, but it's so much whack. It's out there, no content, no nothing. And then it makes the listener lazy.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Like, everywhere you go, everybody asks you, so what did your album mean before it even dropped? Like, everybody been asking me, what does Blankface mean? I'm like, you figure it out first. It only been out a week. Listen to it. I'm gonna take a crack at this Blankface thing. I think it means that, like, you don't wanna be profiled, you don't wanna be judged, you don't wanna be stereotyped. It's like, don't put me in no boxes.
Starting point is 00:16:16 You don't know what I am. That's a big percentage of what the album is, like, 80%. Got it. The album is out right now. Make sure you pick it up. And we appreciate you joining us, Kool Boy. You've been the same since you first came out, man.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Every time, you're the same guy. You always show us love, and we appreciate that. Man, thank y'all for not doing me like the other rappers and making me feel weird. That's because you make good music. You make good music, and you don't do dumb shit when you're not in the booth. Yeah, people, I be looking at some of these interviews,
Starting point is 00:16:44 I be like, damn,'ll be ready to get out like some of this y'all say to people we got to get out like off top we will have to get out make good music y'all scaleless man y'all make an artist feel weird like y'all do answer questions not interested in the answer like ask the question they don't even care what the dude is saying like so i appreciate y'all for even you know what I'm saying? Ask a question and don't even care what the dude is saying, like, so I appreciate y'all for even, you know what I'm saying, acknowledging me. If you don't put no thought into your music or your craft, why should we put thought into our questions
Starting point is 00:17:13 when we interview you? True. That's so ignorant. We put thought into our questions, man. He's supposed to say that. See, you answer the questions like, you answer and say stuff like me, and he answer and say stuff like Dave and Top and one of them. So Angela Lee, just the token female
Starting point is 00:17:29 that need to be on the show, I feel like. Angela Lee, she just she just here to just tell you like like, yeah, so I heard you named your album Blankface. She's like I did not ask questions like that. Now I'm giving you the Blankface. No, no like that. Angela, like, Angela, like,
Starting point is 00:17:45 Now I'm giving you the blank face. No, no, no. Angela, like, she loves music, but I don't think she cares to interview nobody. I can tell she genuinely loves music, but she doesn't care to interview nobody. She'd rather go out and drink with you. Yeah, exactly. She wouldn't go and listen to the music. She ain't trying to interview you. I definitely went to the listening session.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yep, you was the only one. See, she do that type of stuff. I like to show support. I understand that because you come up here, take time out to promote. I like to go out and show my support as well. For people, if I care about your music, I care about you, I like to make sure I go out of my way to go and do that. All right, well, it's The Breakfast Club. It's Schoolboy Q.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Happy holidays. You're listening to the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. What up, y'all? It's DJ and the Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. This year is a time of giving. So make sure you donate to UNICEF to help save children's lives this holiday season. Use your cell phone to dial pound 250 and say the keyword UNICEF.
Starting point is 00:18:46 That's pound 250, keyword UNICEF to make a donation. We got a special guest in the building. Young M.A. The other day I was DJing a teen party and the DJ shot the little man with DJing before me. He played the instrumental of her record and these kids rapped the whole song. Which record?
Starting point is 00:19:01 Top to bottom. Ooh! Now I'm hearing your name all through New York City, man. I'm always interested in knowing, you know, who young rappers like yourself were influenced from coming from New York. 50 Cent. That was my favorite rapper of all time, man. Definitely when I was younger. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:16 So what got you rapping? Because, I mean, you're a girl. So as a kid, I mean. Oh, yeah. No girls, right? Ever. I'm offended already. Can I finish what I'm saying? right? Ever. I'm offended already.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Can I finish what I'm saying? Can I finish what I'm saying? You know, usually females are into Barbie dolls and toys, but you got tattoos. Wow. Oh, my gosh. Just stop. I don't want you to bury yourself in that. You got tattoos all over your neck and everything. I wasn't into Barbie dolls.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I had Barbies. I had Barbies, though. I had Barbies, but what I used to do was cut their hair off and make them into boys because my mom never bought me the Ken doll. Cut the hair off, drew a mustache on them. I'm that ass. You had trans Barbies. Did you cut the boobs off and everything? Nah, I ain't know how to do that.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I just put a shirt on and call it a day. Why wouldn't you buy you the Ken doll? I don't know. Black mothers ain't think of Ken and Barbie. They just got the Barbie head, take that, and it was all black. Was she a single mother? Definitely. That's why.
Starting point is 00:20:10 She didn't even know they had a kin. That's a fact. Now, you played football. Yeah. Tackle football. Yeah. That wasn't strange? Not to me.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It was normal. You put equipment on and hit up when your boy hit you and everything. This is good. I'm going to sit back and watch him be just killing me. I'm not. You put equipment on and hit up. Equipment. Your boys hit you and everything. This is good. I'm going to sit back and watch him be just killing me. I'm going to ask him. This is good. Go ahead. Ask him.
Starting point is 00:20:29 What got you into football? And be like, did you get your period? How did you get your period? Yeah. If I had a daughter and if my daughter asked me to play football, I don't think I would be like, all right, come on. We're going to put this equipment on and go play. Being around the boys, everybody playing football, we all playing football.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And they were just like, yo, you should get on the team. Because all my friends, they was playing football. They was on the team. I was the only one that didn't get on the team. I thought, you know, I'm a girl, I can't get on the team. So we made it happen. And I was the first girl on the football team. Oh, hold on, you actually played organized.
Starting point is 00:21:01 That's what I'm trying to tell you. I thought you just made a screen. No, I said equipment on and everything. Oh, wow. So you actually in the NFL. No, I said equipment on and everything. Oh, wow. So you actually in the NFL. No, not the NFL, but you was like with JV or... Yeah, I was middle... What's that called? Minus. I was a minor.
Starting point is 00:21:15 What position you played? Running back. I wanted to play that. They put me as right receiver. I mean, I could throw a football too. I wanted to be quarterback. I wanted to be anything. They can put me in that position. See, so Envy's saying he wouldn't let his daughter do that because it feels dangerous. Yeah, it feels dangerous as hell. My little baby girl. You ever hurt anybody?
Starting point is 00:21:31 I even got into a fight with one of my homeboys from tackling him too hard. He got upset. I guess he was a little embarrassed. No, I'm not. He tried to get up and fight me. You know what I mean? What? Because I popped him in front of everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Like, boom, hit him. Everybody from the building is yelling like, oh. So he felt some type of way. He's like, damn, push me. And then we just started fighting. But you seem like the type of woman that was never, like they never looked at you as a female. They accepted you as one of the dudes.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah, basically. I got a picture. We got to see this picture. I got a picture. I want to see this football. I was like 10 years old. Wow. That's how you catch a kid.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Let me see. Sometimes I question why I was see this picture. I got a picture. I want to see this football. I was like 10 years old. Wow. That's how you catch a kid. Let me see. Sometimes I question why I was born this way. I never wanted to wear skirts and shoes, makeup, nails, dresses, even wear my hair a certain way. I always wanted to wear jeans and sneakers, stud earrings, hand a ponytail, and play with the boys. I never wanted to be a cheerleader. I wanted to play football. Is this you saying this, Charlie? Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I ain't really reading, though. Do you know how many young age that you like girls at a young age? It was like first grade. First grade? Yeah. I thought I was weird, though. You know what I mean? Like, I thought I was the only one in the world that you like girls at a young age? It was like first grade. First grade? Yeah. I thought I was weird, though. You know what I mean? Like, I thought I was the only one in the world that felt like that.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Really? So I never said nothing for years to come, years to come. I can't tell. You seem like a veteran. That was the only truth. It's crazy because I used to act so much like a boy that people used to be like, you're, like, you gay. Like, why you, like, stop denying it.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You're gay. Like, it's obvious. You know what I mean? And I still. You had boyfriends before. Yeah, I had boyfriends before. You had sex before. No, no're gay. Like, why you stop denying it? You're gay. Like, it's obvious. You know what I mean? You had boyfriends before. Yeah, I had boyfriends before. You had sex before. No, no, no, no. Say, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Hey, whoa. Wow. Nah, I never did. Really? I swear on my dead brother. But you're a real virgin. Yeah. You got a lot of lesbians that had some penis.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Nah, kids and all that. Yeah, but I never did. Wow. What did your mom say? She knew early on, clearly, also. Nah, kids and all that. Yeah, but I never did. What did your mom say? She knew early on clearly also. Yeah, my mom been knew. She used to try to get me to say it like she went and like force it, but
Starting point is 00:23:12 she'll be like, you know, if you like girls, you know, you can always tell me. And I used to be like, nah, mom, why you keep saying that? Nah. You know what I mean? She really knew when I had went to gay pride one day. Like, come on now. I'm like, mom, everybody goes to gay pride. You know what I mean? But she knew.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And I used to be scared to tell my moms because I didn't know. I knew my moms wasn't that type of mother to be like, oh, I don't like you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm gonna, you know, just ignore you. Whatever, whatever. She didn't. You cannot know and be okay with it, but then when you know, it could change,
Starting point is 00:23:41 you know what I mean, your input on it. And what got you into writing? I don't know. One day I just started writing rhymes in my room and playing with it and pause playing with what i knew you was ready playing with yeah but um now once i started listening to 50 cent that's when i really was like oh no i want to be a rapper you write your own rhymes yeah absolutely was it hard for you to get signed since you're not your typical female
Starting point is 00:24:06 artist? I'm not signed. Well, I should say for people to hear your music, to get on. Because your records are popping out there. I've been doing music for like the past few years where I was originally a little more feminine, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:21 with the music. And it's what I was told to be, you know what I mean? I couldn't come out aggressive. I couldn't come out like, you know what I mean, being the music. And this is what I was told to be, you know what I mean? I couldn't come out aggressive. I couldn't come out like, you know what I mean, being who I am today. Did they try to tell you to conceal it? Like, don't tell people you're a lesbian? It was like, be a lesbian and say you like guys too. You know what I mean? It was like, do both.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's whack. It was like points where they'd be like, you know, there's going to be times where you might have to throw on a dress. And at that time, at that time, don't get me wrong, I thought that's what it was like i just was like okay you know i mean but part of me was like i don't think i'm gonna do this i just when i started to be in the streets more and and then it was just like i was just gonna leave music alone like forget it it just kept coming back to me you know they say if you let something go and come
Starting point is 00:25:00 back it's meant music kept coming back to me people kept hitting me like yo you don't do music no more and Ah, ah. And I just kept putting out music and I had to get a little more aggressive on the tracks. I'm like, I don't think they hear me. Like, this is what I do. Like, this is what I've been doing for a long time.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Like, this ain't new. Did you ever question why you didn't see more LGBT in hip hop? See, I never look at it like that. Like, I never look at LGBT when I do music. I don't stick in that box. You know what I mean? You just do music. I just do music. We know you don't stick in the box.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I'll get anything stuck in your box. Young M.A. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. What up, y'all? It's DJ MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Make sure you donate to UNICEF to help save children's lives this holiday season. Use your cell phone to dial
Starting point is 00:25:44 pound 250 and say the keyword UNICEF. That's pound 250, keyword UNICEF to make a donation. Young MAs in the building. You're also probably fortunate you didn't end up on Empire. Oh, yeah. You're supposed to be on Empire? Yeah. You look like one of Lucia's kids.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I can see that. You know, it's crazy. I wasn't even going to be his kid on the show. I was going to be the girl. Free to get? Yeah. But the original name was Betty Balls. You know, it was crazy. I wasn't even going to be his kid on the show. I was going to be the girl. Free to get? Yeah. Free to get.
Starting point is 00:26:09 The original name was Betty Bars. They wrote the script for me. Wow. Yeah, it was based off me. Who'd you meet? Who'd you know over there? I met Lee Daniels face to face. At a private parade?
Starting point is 00:26:17 No. Yeah, well, I'm serious, though. I'm like, no. I'm thinking he. I was being serious. I don't know where you've been. I was in a Swiss beach. You met him?
Starting point is 00:26:27 Go ahead. How did you meet Lee Daniels? I was in Swiss Beach's office, and my manager had low-key set something up because I already had turned it down before I met Lee Daniels. I denied it. I was like, nah, I don't want to be on it. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I'm going to tell you why. And we wound up meeting with Swiss Beach in his office, and here comes walking in Lee Daniels. I didn't really know who he was, you know what I mean? At the time, I just was like... Who was this fabulous man that just walked in? Yeah, he was real fabulous when he walked in, you know what I mean? You could tell he got a demeanor about him.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He pulls out the script, he says, let's go. I'm going to see you where it lead, you know what I mean? So I remember I wasn't doing too good or whatever, so Swiss Beats brung me out to his balcony and was like, yo, just give him you. Don't worry about it being, like, you know, on a show or feeling like it's a script and you got to read it from the script. He was like, just be yourself. So, I came back out, you know, gave him me and he loved it. But I still wasn't really with it because I knew Empire was going to put me in a position where I'm known from Empire as his character.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And I'm not known from Young and Made, from Brooklyn building on my music. You'd have been Betty Bars. I would have been Betty Bars. Everybody would have been, like, right now, y'all would have called me up, like, we got Betty Bars on the show or something. Yeah, because Drew, yeah, free to guess. It's always free to guess. And she cool as hell.
Starting point is 00:27:39 But I do know her. I just can't remember her real name right now. I'm trying to think of it. But I know her more. Breezy, right? Yeah, you know her, but it's a lot of other people that know her as. But I will say, and then I heard, but I don't know what her situation is, but I know they make you sign a contract,
Starting point is 00:27:51 and it might have something to do with your music also. I know. I didn't want to get too deep in that, but that was a big reason why. No, because when Quincy was up here, he was saying that his father, Diddy, would not let him do it. Thank God for my lawyer. The contract just put the icing on the cake. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Now, how does a young artist build an online buzz? Because I would assume your career really popped off because of the internet. Right, right. Is there a science to it? Stay consistent. Mm-hmm. And, you know what I mean? They'll eventually wake up.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Got to be nice, you know what I mean? You can't be trash, of course. But just be consistent, man. How long did it take for Uda? Not that long. That's what's crazy. Yeah, that's quick. So you did a video for it and everything to it? Yeah, video. Video long did it take for U to... Not that long. That's what's crazy. Yeah, that's quick. U came...
Starting point is 00:28:25 You did a video for it and everything to it? Yeah, video. Video was at like 7 million now. I like the fact that your sexuality is not overshadowing your music. Right. People is like, young M.A.'s dope. Oh, yeah, absolutely. That what you signed to a major or not?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. You know what I mean? It's not totally out of the equation. I've been sitting with mad labels, like big dogs for the past two weeks now. I'm just hearing everybody out and just trying to make, choose my decision wisely. I just don't want them
Starting point is 00:28:51 to try to change you. I don't want them to be on some old school like telling you you gotta dress like this and this and this. I got past that point already. Like I was in that position
Starting point is 00:28:59 in my life at one point. You know what I mean? Where it was like you might have to do this or sound like this or talk about this. You know what I mean? When I got to, you might have to do this or sound like this or talk about this, you know what I mean? When I got to a point where I was just like, I don't care. Hey, I'm going to be gay. I'm going to talk about, you know what I mean? I just got to that point.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You can take what you want now because what you have going on is working. If you're on board with what I'm doing and my movement, who is you? Exactly. What's your ink mean? When did you start getting it? When did you start falling in love with the Tats? My first Tat was R.L.P. Kenneth.
Starting point is 00:29:27 That's my brother. That's your older brother or younger brother? He's my older brother. Okay. And then I just made this whole arm about him. How did he influence you? He was the reason why I played football. I was a tomboy playing basketball.
Starting point is 00:29:38 He probably was the reason why I like girls. The biggest influence in my life. So when he died, it was like a big rip from my chest. I just, you know, right now, I just make sure I do it in his memory. Like, this is why I go so hard, and this is why nobody can change my mind on certain,
Starting point is 00:29:56 because I'm stuck with, you know, his memory in my mind. That's your only sibling? No, I have a little sister, too, and I have a brother on my father's side. But he was kind of the guy that you probably could trust the most. Did you have trust issues after that? Like, just trusting him? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I had a lot of trust issues once I found out about that situation. I was already not really a trusty type person. Yeah, is it just me? What up, y'all? It's DJ Envy Angelique. Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. The holidays are a time for giving.
Starting point is 00:30:24 So make a difference and donate to help save children's lives this holiday season. Use your cell phone to dial pound 250 and say the keyword UNICEF. We got a special guest in the building, the man of the hour. Ladies and gentlemen, Nate Parker's in the building. What's up, what's up? Two things I thought I would never see on a Hollywood screen is Luke Cage in any form and Nat Turner in a movie. I've been screaming for a Nat Turner movie because I don't like slave movies.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I've been denounced them. I said, if you're going to make any slave movie, let it be Nat Turner because Nat Turner wasn't a victim. And you got it done. Well, let's explain Nat Turner to people that don't know because I've never learned it in my history books. It wasn't anything that I've ever read. And I went to Hampton University, which is the HBCU. I've been in Hampton. I know you from Norfolk.
Starting point is 00:31:04 So what made that so special to you, that story? Well, a lot of it is what you just said. I grew up in Norfolk, 42 miles east of South Hampton County, where the revolt happened. And I never heard about this brother. Really? Yeah, I never heard about him. Yeah, we learned about it growing up. Yeah, I never learned about it in school.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And it's significant because when you think of the proximity, you would think that someone would have said something. But it speaks to the danger of the revolutionary, you know, the person that looks like us that fought for his own freedom. We don't get those stories. Like you said, you know what I mean? Like even when we learn about slavery, we learn through the context of the victim. And we lay down until Honest Abe said enough is enough. You know, Honest Abe couldn't tell a lie. Molding his chin.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Pensive. Slave problem. We got to figure it out pick this up and now we're free right you know we don't learn about you know tucson we don't learn about denmark vc we don't learn about you know we don't learn about gabriel prosser we don't learn about any of them right and so you have to ask yourself why is that why is our history being hid the things that will empower us you know what i mean and even when i was trying to make this film people were like you make this film bro like it's gonna be when I was trying to make this film, people were like, you make this film, bro. Like, it's going to be a problem. Like, don't make this film.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Like, black people, like prominent directors was like, make the story of John Brown. You know, John Brown's a white abolitionist that led to Slave Revolt. It was like, that'll be easier for people to digest. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:17 I had another prominent black director told me he was like, well, I liked your script, but I didn't love it. One thing would have made me love it. And I was like, what? You know, I got my notebook. And he said, you need more good white people.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Wow. I was like, what do you mean? He was like, white people ain't going to watch that, man. They ain't going to watch that shit. But it was the 1800s. It was a period piece. And it was America. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It's like, you know, when it comes to other demographics that have endured torture and genocide and Holocaust, just never forget. You know what I mean? It's very important that we hold those stories up so they never repeat themselves. But in this country, we have this habit of kind of closing
Starting point is 00:32:48 off the things that don't reflect us in the best of lights. You know, so in telling the story, you know, I said, man, I learned about Nat Turner at 21, but if I had learned about him at 12... How did you learn about him at 21? African American Studies class. You know what I'm saying? Did you read the Confessions of Nat Turner? I did read that.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You know, and it's funny because Confessions is fiction. You know, that's like a... I read the Confessions of Nat Turner? I did read that. And it's funny because Confessions is fiction. I've always wondered about that. Somebody told me that before. Well, it won a Pulitzer, which is tricky because it won the Pulitzer for fiction. But the writer, he said it's a reimagining of Nat Turner's life. It's not Nat Turner's life. So when you read the Fires of Jubilee
Starting point is 00:33:19 or William Drury's book or Southampton Interaction, and you read the real stuff, you're like, wait a minute. Well, I need to read the real stuff. The only thing I ever read was The Confessions of Nat Turner. But I'm going to tell you, it's a fiction book where it said, okay, well, Nat Turner, all of his motivation came for his lust after the handmaid of his master, like a white woman. Like, that's why.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And he was crazy. He was a fanatic. He was homosexual. Like, all these things that they made up. Yeah. You know what I mean? So when you get to the real, you're like, well, why would they denigrate his life? Why would they mysticize these things that they made up yeah you know what i mean so when you get to the real you're like well why would they denigrate his life why would they mysticize the things that actually happen when they had like why would they make it so he didn't have children or
Starting point is 00:33:51 didn't have a wife he had a wife he had a child you know what i'm saying so it's like the attack of the black man the demonizing of the black man is something that ain't new this is age old you know so when we get to to celebrate this story you story, like I said, a lot of people I grew up with, went to prison, not here with us today, had that chip on their shoulder and had no context as to why or where they could put that energy. But heroes, when you can say, oh, no, no, no, no, Nat Turner rose and stood so I can stand. Nat Turner was Django before Django. The real Django. Me and Chris Rock had a debate about that because he thought I was trying to insult Nat Turner by saying that, but the reason I love
Starting point is 00:34:28 Django is because he wasn't a victim. Django burnt the plantation down. He did, and he stood up and he was like, nah, it's not happening this way. I'll take it even a step further, though. Nat Turner said, I'm going to sacrifice on behalf of people that I'll never meet. You get what I'm saying? Like, biblically, it says a good man leaves an inheritance for his children's children, right? Nat Turner
Starting point is 00:34:44 was like, okay, I'm going to walk to these gallows, but I know that what I did will echo into eternity. We're celebrating Nat Turner. They skinned him. Lampshades out of his skin and purses. Like, this is what they did. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, and they did what they did in the name of God. He did what he did in the name of God.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Were there certain things that you originally had in the movie that you felt like you had to take out or people said, OK, maybe that's. Nope. And it goes back to your question. Seriously, like you said, I didn't, you know, I went to Hollywood for money. You talked about everybody that said they passed. So how did you pay for it? I knocked on doors, man. You know, I went to school. A lot of friends were in finance.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You know, one guy in particular I contacted. He connected me to one of his friends that actually worked in New York that had a hedge fund. And I asked him for the money. He said no. I said okay. That was what you asked me for. Millions. You got seven. You're eight seven to get it done, right? Yeah. How much did you think you needed? The budget said
Starting point is 00:35:37 we needed like 30, right? To make it? Oh my, it's a battle film. They said we needed 40 days. We shot in 27 days. You know what I'm saying? So I knocked on doors. I went to anyone who would listen. My lowest contribution was like $75,000.
Starting point is 00:35:51 My biggest contribution was like $2 million. You know, and the guy that gave me the $2 million, I just begged him. I stepped away from acting for two years. After I finished Beyond the Lights, that Monday I went into my team. I was like, I'm not acting anymore. Writing anything else. I'm not acting anything else. I'm not directing. Don't't call me the next skin I live in will be Nat Turner period um that's a different level of commitment man that's commitment and you know belief in yourself
Starting point is 00:36:13 bro it's a belief in God like my faith really had it really reeled me in the first hundred grand into this film was my own money and that's all I had you know what I'm saying like I ain't a millionaire I'm a thousandaire you know what I mean? And to put up a hundred grand, it hurt. You know what I mean? Talking to my wife, I was like, this is important. Like, I didn't know it would be a hundred grand. What was her stance at this point? She was like, baby, you ain't working and you want to take everything?
Starting point is 00:36:36 And we got lights. You know, they got kids. And kids need to be turned on. But she had faith, man. She was just like, you know, the Lord's called you to do this. You know, I got your back. That's very Nat Turner-esque in itself. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I was going to say, like, Nat Turner was a chosen one from when he was a child, from when he was born. Did you feel like you were a chosen one in telling this story? That it was something that you were kind of born to do?
Starting point is 00:37:00 I felt like it was written on my spirit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I wouldn't say I'm chosen. I just felt like, you know how you like, you know what? You know, we all struggle and wrestle with our faith and try to be strong and whatever that means. And I was like, you know, Lord, like, I feel like you want me to tell this story. How many times can you get offered Crip number four or Blood number two? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:20 At some point, you're like, man, there's got to be something better, you know? And it's like, I go a whole year and pass on 50 projects and there'd be one great debaters. Now I've got to compete against the whole world to get that. And then hope that Denzel sees something in me that works. At some point you're like, man, well, what is the story I want to tell? If I could tell any story I want, what would it be? Nat Turner.
Starting point is 00:37:40 That's Braveheart. We never had a Braveheart. All right, well, we have more with Nate Parker when we come back. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, Charlemagne the God here, and I just want to wish a Merry Christmas to all my credit card scammers out there.
Starting point is 00:37:55 This is the season to find you a scammer friend so you can save some money in any major department store in America. The Breakfast Club. What up, y'all? It's DJ MV Angelique. Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're standing with UNICEF to give hope to the children first.
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Starting point is 00:38:32 I honestly don't know who's demonizing you at this point because I see it from all angles. Because I'm going to tell you a story. I remember maybe a month before I saw the movie, had an OG, triple OG in the game hit me up and he goes, look, we got to support this film. He said he's going to try to crucify Nate Parker. And then two, three weeks later,
Starting point is 00:38:47 all the different allegations came out. It was, oh, he got a white wife. It was, oh, he's homophobic. It was, oh, he has rape charges. Did you expect that to happen? Hmm. Let's just say I was warned early on, you know, people in the industry, people that love me, people that I love
Starting point is 00:39:04 that just said, you know, are you ready for what may come with this film? You know, it's like, look, I'm going to say, look, you know, how you rediscover something you already knew? I've never hit anything from my life. I never ran from nobody in my life. And I'm not going to run now. No one's going to stop me from telling stories that I think uplift my people. They're just not going to do it. It can come from me.
Starting point is 00:39:22 That's OK. I'm a grown up. I'm a man. I'm so anchored in the Lord, bro. My faith is so strong that I'm uplift my people. They're just not going to do it. They can come for me. That's okay. I'm a grown-up. I'm a man. I'm so anchored in the Lord, bro. My faith is so strong that I'm not tripping. I know the power of Nat Turner and what he can do for our people,
Starting point is 00:39:33 what he can do for America. What happens if we start celebrating Nat Turner as a hero? Ooh! You know, look, the African-American museum just opened. Nat Turner's Bible, right? George Bush said, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:44 Nat Turner, George Bush said it out Bush said, you know, Nat Turner. George Bush said it out of his mind. Like, what happens if it becomes normal to celebrate everyone of every color that has contributed to the narrative of this country? Right. Things will change. Privilege will be challenged. But things will change.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Does it piss you off, though? Because we were watching your Good Morning America interview. And you looked like, all right, enough is enough. You look like you on the screen. Put some respect on my name. Like enough of Nick. All right. I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:07 because they showed some of the stuff that you went through when you were in college. You look like, come on now. I'll just say this. My post is out there.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I'll probably get in trouble. It was an ambush. You know, it looked like an ambush. It looked like you didn't know it was going to be on the screen. You look like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:40:19 You know, because this is bigger than me. Nat Turner is so much bigger than me. Like in my, in my 36 year old life and anything you could ever dig up or me. Nat Turner is so much bigger than me. Like in my 36-year-old life, in anything you could ever dig up or whatever. Nat Turner? Did you feel like it would be in jeopardy at any point? The film?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah, just with everything coming up, like we can't put this out. Because I remember thinking, oh, man, are they going to try to not put the movie out now? There's a verse in the Bible that says, I tell you these things so that you will find peace in me. You know, in the world there will be tribulation, but of good cheer for i will become the world god is god the same god that helped me to make this film same god that got me through you know whatever obstacles i have in my life the same god has made it so people will be able to gain something perspective young people 50 years from now some 10 year old kid is going to be able to watch this film in the same way that they use the original birth of a nation as a recruitment tool for the kkk we're going to use it as a recruitment tool for revolution and resistance for people that recognize something
Starting point is 00:41:14 needs to change that's bigger than me if i died today and the film can live i'm not tripping i'm good bro i'm in such peace right now because this film exists so for me it's kind of like okay well cool let's get the film out okay cool all right fine let's get the film out okay yeah next question i mean i think we've all been guilty of it it judges your character you know when we hear nate parker we hear the this accusation his friend is this his friend is that that has to affect you in a in a way because now people who don't know you might look at you at a different light. But guess what? We got to rise up to the 10,000-foot view, right?
Starting point is 00:41:50 Like when you're in a moment and you're set on fire, it's easy to be like, oh, my God, I'm on fire, right? But when you rise up to the 10,000-foot view and you see the Lord's resume, everything that's happened up until that moment, and you look forward and say, okay, this moment will cause a reaction forward, then you realize, look, this is bigger than my character. People will get to know me. They'll get to know my heart. You know what I mean? I'm cool with that.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I didn't know you guys until I knew you. I didn't know you until I knew you. If I could go out and meet every single person and glad hand and shake their hand, would I do it? Yeah, I can't do that. I'm going to let let my art let my activism speak in ways that my mouth on these shows with these headline hunters and these clickbait people i'm gonna let them do that thing i'm not tripping on the news i feel this is me talking i feel like
Starting point is 00:42:35 it was a conspiracy by some powers that be to derail the release of the film because all of this information has been out there it's been public you were found not guilty you spoke about it before why now that's all I want to know. Like, why now? You know what? You know, there's some people that say, you know, why me? And then there's some people that say, well, what can come out of this moment? You know, and I try to be the latter.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I try to be the person that says, regardless of the moment, what can change because of these actions? Because, look, if people forever kick dirt on me forever but this film exists by itself and in 100 years when i'm dead and gone they got this film we win we all win if we release this film right and all the old heads see it all the old heads are like yeah we get it we move forward and the kid in bed style the 15 year kid, don't know who Nat Turner is still. Oakland, or the kid in Decatur, doesn't know. We lose. So I reached out to the dopest artist I could find, Gucci Mane, and talked to him on the phone.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I said, brother, I know you care about your community. Yeah, I didn't understand that. I haven't heard the music, so I'm not going to judge it, but I didn't understand the Gucci Lil Wayne. Well, you got to hear the music. This is the thing. Look, guess what? Gucci got the streets. Lil Wayne got the streets. I don't understand the Gucci Lil Wayne. Well, you got to hear the music. This is the thing. Look, guess what? Gucci got the streets. Lil Wayne got the streets.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I don't have the streets. And even what they're talking about on that particular song. Did you listen to it? Yeah. Did you listen to the socially conscious stuff? Yes. Listen, everyone is on message. It's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:56 You got 2 Chainz on message. Talking about go up to the state house, tell them to revise the system. 2 Chainz. You know what I mean? It's like, if you can get them on message. Because as you know, music in a way has been corporatized. as a system. Okay. You know what I mean? It's like, if you can get them on message, because I, as you know, music in a way has been corporatized.
Starting point is 00:44:08 You know, a lot of the, you know, the politics around making music and who we're making it for and who's consuming it, a lot of times
Starting point is 00:44:14 it doesn't help our people. A lot of times in this country, they give a little bit to a few and then tell those few to kind of be happy with what you got
Starting point is 00:44:21 and turn your back and your power against the people that need it the most. I mean, that happens in my industry too. So if I can get people that do care about the community, but don't have the platform to release it. Right. So I had a chance to sit with all these, these guys, you know, Vic Mensa, all of them, you know, Trey songs, Neo, everyone is on message talking about the system, talking about oppression, talking about
Starting point is 00:44:41 faith. You know what I'm saying? Like, Lil Wayne was like, I gotta feed the family, but I had to leave the family. I left the CMB. I'm an amputee, but I would never leave Christianity. I heard Iggy Azalea submitted a track, but you turned it down. I didn't turn anything down. You know, it's like anything else. Things, like everyone
Starting point is 00:44:59 that wants to be on your show can't get on the show. Oh, Iggy really submitted a track? No. Oh. I thought he made that up. I'm like, what? No, no, no. I'm saying that to be on your show can't get on the show oh it get really submitted a track no oh i was like i thought he made that up no no no i'm saying that i'm trying to be fair a lot of people submitted uh albums but we really you know when you track list when you make a a track list you want to make sure everything fits naz has an incredible song called war see that's on brain no no no no no no but why would you do something obvious? You know what I'm saying? Like, at some point, like, if I can get Lil Wayne, you know, to talk about the streets in the context of message,
Starting point is 00:45:31 and then a young person was like, wait a minute, did Lil Wayne just say that? Right. What up, y'all? It's DJ MV Angelique. Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. You have one more day to make your tax-deductible donation in 2016. Make use of your tax-deductible donation before it's too late
Starting point is 00:45:48 with this easy UNICEF donation. Use your cell phone to dial pound 250 and say the keyword UNICEF. That's pound 250, keyword UNICEF to make a donation. We have Nate Parker in the building. Now, Charlamagne, are you, I don't want to say concerned, that this movie will cause some type of revolt now? Because this could be a dangerous time to put this movie out. Let me be clear.
Starting point is 00:46:09 It's a quotable. I hope it makes people uncomfortable. I hope that it inspires a riotous disposition. Now, do I want violence? Absolutely not. We're above that now. Why do we need to be violent when we got journalists, we got radio personalities that have power, we have social media.
Starting point is 00:46:25 But that sounds like the same old song. Social media is not, but everything else sounds like the same old song. No, no, no, watch this, watch this. Nat Turner had axe handles and broomsticks, right? And he didn't have the right to assemble. So what does that mean? That means what we're doing right now in this room would have been illegal and we would all have been lynched, right?
Starting point is 00:46:39 Well, we do have a white man in the room. He's Cuban. Oh, good, good, good. I couldn't see your whole face. Good! As soon as I said that, he was like, you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I am Pitbull. I am Pitbull. But the right, we didn't have the right to assemble. This right here, dead, right? Nat Turner, out of that, only tools he had, his only, he couldn't have been like, I'm calling a meeting. Everybody on the plantation. We're going to strike.
Starting point is 00:47:06 We're going to protest and walk around the main house like you didn't do nothing. So he fought and what in the tools he had. You look now. Right. If we I mean, the power we have, you look like Colin Kaepernick, like the power. I always say when athletes get involved, it's a wrap. Things are going to change because we're messing with the money. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:21 So if nothing else, they walk out of that film and says, I'm going to use my occupation to spearhead the systemic crisis I see in my own life, my own community. Things will change immediately. Does that mean marching? Maybe. Does it mean more than marching? Does it mean some people saying, no, I ain't going to do that. I'm going to walk into my producer and tell him,
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'm not saying that thing ever again. What? And sacrificing because I might get fired. You know, is it whatever your occupation, what is your contribution? I want people, you know, the biggest difference I believe between the civil rights movement of old and the civil rights movements of new is that people aren't willing to die. Anything that's ever done anything for our community that actually resulted in progress had to take a bullet to their head. The good thing about the movie too is like when you say systemic oppression,
Starting point is 00:48:06 I like that because it's not just seeing white people because they had to go battle against their own who was on the side of systemic oppression as well. You're absolutely right, brother. Frederick Douglass has this dope quote where he says, when I became free, I began to see the effects slavery had not only on slaves but on slave masters. Everyone around us has been passed down something, this trauma, this wound that we won't let heal. We won't face it. We just won't because it's too uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:48:33 It's too painful. How many times have you heard someone say, like in politics, you know, we got to have the race conversation? Have you ever had the race conversation? Have we ever been like, okay, everyone, this is race conversation day. Race conversation day is going to be October 10th. Right. Call your friends, order pizza, you know, and Coke and Coca-Cola. And come over to the house.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Headline. Like, hey, partner. Encourage us. No, come over. We're going to have a conversation on race. Invite people that don't look like you. We're going to come to the table. We're going to eat and be like, yo, so race, like, you know, white privilege.
Starting point is 00:49:08 What do you think? No one's having that conversation. You know, so at some point, you know, they say if you always do what you've always done, you always get what you've always got. America's always doing what they've always done. That's shutting people up. That's attacking the people that resist. And that's a problem for America.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I always say a healthier black community, a healthier Latino community is a healthier United States of America. Do you think your past rape charges will cause people not to see this movie with an objective eye? Because I saw an article in the New Yorker where the author didn't give it the best review, but it kept mixing you with the movie. And I'm like, listen, listen, presume dangerous and guilty, presume dangerous and guilty. Like that's, you know, the attack is the attack. You know And I'm like, listen, listen, presume dangerous and guilty, presume dangerous and guilty. Like that's, you know, the attack is the attack. You know what I'm saying? I think anyone that thinks
Starting point is 00:49:50 it's important to hear stories that have been erased from history that can aid in our progress as America needs to see this film, in my humble opinion, right? Take me out of it, whatever you feel about me, whatever you feel about my acquittal,
Starting point is 00:50:03 whatever you feel about my innocence or whatever you have just for a second recognize if you call yourself a patriot i think you have to take steps toward healing america and if this film stands for something like that outside of me then let's have that conversation let's not take the baggage of whatever you've read in a headline and just say, I'm going to see what the film does. Can a black man ever be not guilty in America? Even you're acquitted, you're not guilty. But even when you was on 60 Minutes, they was like, he should have apologized. I'm like, but he's maintained his innocence and got found not guilty.
Starting point is 00:50:37 What do you want to apologize for? It's a question worth asking. But at the same time, I think that we're more concerned about how we've been conditioned to see ourselves and less concerned about how other people see us. And we'll be able to really deal with crisis. We have to make ourselves smaller, bigger picture. Nat Turner made himself small. You know, it doesn't say a good man makes sure his name is good when he dies. Like, I'm not tripping on me. You know, everything I'm doing, I'm doing for my children and my children's children so that when they look up at that image of me wherever it is, and I'm in, hopefully
Starting point is 00:51:05 looking fly in the oil painting, they can be like, you know what, man, my dad tried. You know, my great, great, great, you know, whatever. He tried to do something. He tried to deal with it. Even if they say they came for him, whatever. But he tried to do something. They definitely try to divide. Yeah. Definitely try to divide. But that ain't new, man. That ain't new.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Like, all I'm saying is, can we get some... They try to start with women and African-American women and have women against you. And then, you know, with the headlines, they definitely try to divide. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting to me that a black man can't be black if he's married to a white woman. That's the picture they try to paint. All I'm saying is this. Look at my resume. Do I care about black people?
Starting point is 00:51:39 Do I care about systemic oppression? Have I dedicated anything to raising all ships when it comes to progressing the conversation around America? I don't have to answer that question. You know what I mean? I will continue. Like I said, no one's going to take my seat. What I believe the Lord has put in me to do for our community, to do for our country. I'm just staying the course and staying focused, man.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And the hope that, you know, you know, what's the next project? That's what I was going to ask you. What's next for Nate Parker now after you put out such a huge movie? Something with Tyler Perry because you're going to have to move Hollywood out. What's next? You're going to have to put him in a dressing room. Listen, all right, look, I'm going to say this publicly, all right? Leave Tyler Perry alone.
Starting point is 00:52:23 He's a friend of mine, and he's a good brother. Did he give you some money? He did not give me money, but he's a of mine and he's a good brother he did not give me money but he's a good brother I don't know what I'm going to do next whatever makes me as passionate about doing the work and the art as this has I stepped away two years to really get it together
Starting point is 00:52:40 so the next thing might take eight more years my art is a function of my activism, man. I'm not tripping on Hollywood. I'm not tripping on money. I'm not tripping on awards. Like, I just want to wake folks up. I can get a 10-year-old kid to have a, you know, walking down the street playing with
Starting point is 00:52:55 his friends. I'm Nat Turner. We win. That's the biggest win of them all. Yeah, until he's chasing four little white kids around with an axe hand. I'm Nat Turner. I'm not telling him. I'm not telling him. Whoa. We appreciate you joining us.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Oh, come on. We really appreciate it. I appreciate y'all. Thank you for the time, man. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. What up, y'all? It's DJ Envy. Hey, I'm Angela Yee.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And I go by the name of Charlemagne Nagata. We just want to say happy holidays from all three of us. All three of y'all. The Breakfast Club. All love. Controller. Charlemagne, say the gang donkey under the shade. Charlemagne.
Starting point is 00:53:34 You are a donkey. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey man hit it with the heat it's a breakfast club bitch who's donkey of the day today yes donkey of the day goes the gop nominee donald j trump now listen i don't do selective morality uh even though i'm giving trump this donkey i'd be a hypocrite acting like I haven't talked like this about women. But I'm not running for leader of the free world.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And Donald Trump is. Therefore, he got to get this hee-haw. Now, I'm sure you've heard Donald Trump's comments about grabbing on pussycats. But if you haven't, we got the clip, right? Here you go. I got to use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful. I just start kissing them
Starting point is 00:54:25 it's like a magnet i don't even wait and when you're a star they let you do it you can do anything whatever you want grab them by the next legs now let's be clear that's sexual assault it may not seem like it because a lot of that behavior we have normalized in our society but if you you know walk up to a girl and kiss her without her consent or God forbid, walk up to her and grab her pussycat without consent, that's a charge, sir. Okay, if you have ever grabbed a woman's ass in the club or at school without her consent, that's sexual assault.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I know, I know, you don't look at it like that because it's been so normalized, but it is. Now, for me, I watched Trump on Friday night make those comments and I laughed and I said that's foul. But immediately my conscience kicked in and said, you are being a hypocrite right now because you have said worse publicly and privately about women. So I told myself, damn, you're right.
Starting point is 00:55:16 So this is a moment to learn. It's a classic example of the mirror effect. OK, we look at somebody mirroring and displaying the same behavior that you have and you get to see yourself in a different light. All these Trump comments did was make me want to monitor how I speak to and about women. Now, why are these comments so dangerous coming from Trump? Because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and Donald Trump is running for the most powerful position in the land. Donald Trump already has a level of privilege
Starting point is 00:55:43 because he's filthy rich, a reality star, and he's a white male. Those three combinations will make him feel like he can sexually assault a woman simply because he can. You don't want to give somebody like that the keys to the largest military in the world. But why are we still surprised at
Starting point is 00:56:00 Donald Trump's antics? He's not a politician. He's a reality show star. And he's been acting like one this whole time, but we keep putting lipstick on this pig and acting like it's not a pig. He's not a politician. Just because he's a GOP nominee, it means nothing. I can stand in a garage
Starting point is 00:56:15 in a parking space, but that doesn't mean I'm a cop. Okay? These grab-em-by-the-pussy cat comments is just the latest brick and a wall of vile-ness that Donald Trump has been building since this campaign started. And you know why none of this seems to hurt Trump's momentum? You know why? Because he's not a politician and everybody
Starting point is 00:56:32 knows it. He's a reality star. We're really not even grading him on the same scale we would a real politician. This is why I feel sorry for Hillary Clinton. Love her or hate her, she is the most experienced person for the presidency, but I feel sorry for her because we have to watch hate her, she is the most experienced person for the presidency, but I feel sorry for her because we have to watch her try to prove
Starting point is 00:56:47 herself against the executive producer of Celebrity Apprentice. Watching her debate Donald Trump is like watching LeBron James try to prove to America that he's a great basketball player by playing one-on-one against Peter Griffin from Family Guy. It's not even remotely a fair matchup, but for whatever reason, America
Starting point is 00:57:03 has made it that, and I don't understand why, but we here now. If Donald Trump loses this election, this will by far be the funniest, most entertaining presidential campaign we have ever seen. But if he wins, this will be no laughing matter. In fact, if Donald Trump wins, won't a damn thing be funny. So in November, I want you to go out and vote. Go out and grab this election by the pussycat. Be like Donald Trump and don't ask for consent when it comes to voting. Grab America's destiny by the pussycat. And let's end this joke.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Call Trump once and for all, please. Give Donald J. Trump the biggest hee-haw. I don't know if you guys saw Giuliani trying to defend him also. You're not even listening to Giuliani. Tell him to sit down and relax. And yes, I will be monitoring my rhetoric towards women. I will monitor what I say to and about them. And I don't want to hear that, you know, oh, well, Charlamagne, you're not running for president talk.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I don't care if you're running for president. I don't care if you're a radio personality, a rapper, a barber, a garbage man. Doesn't matter. We can all do better when it comes to how we talk to and about women. Absolutely. Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir. Yes, my Hawaiian brother. We found out yesterday that DJ Envy is Hawaiian, by the way.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Envy is everything. No, we did. I think he did one of those ancestry tests. Oh, he did? Yeah, we found out he's Hawaiian. I'm not Hawaiian. So you did that ancestry test? I am not Hawaiian.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Aloha! What's it called? 23, what is it called again? 23, um, hold on. I'm not Hawaiian. I forgot. Don't ever come to me. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. And she's back! Carol Stern! That's right. You know what that means. That's our friend now. Gotta get that money up. That's right. What know what that means. That's our friend now. Gotta get that money up.
Starting point is 00:58:45 That's right. What do we need to do to hit that goal? We need to give, and we need to give big. Now, we didn't even introduce you to some UNICEF. She's the CEO of UNICEF. I said CEO of UNICEF. You did? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I thought you just said she's back. I did, and then I said she's UNICEF CEO. No, you didn't. I did. Angela is back. You didn't say it. Okay, so I'm the CEO of UNICEF. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Big dog! Okay, UNICEF USA. There we go. There we go. There we go. Come on, guys. And you need, you know, we all had a really good holiday, and this is our chance to do something for somebody else. And there are kids around the world today that really need your help.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Pound 250, keyword UNICEF, make a gift. That's what I need. Now, this is a great present to actually give someone, because can I, like, donate in somebody else's name also? Absolutely. Absolutely. You can definitely do that. This is a great present to actually give someone. Can I donate in somebody else's name also? Absolutely. You can definitely do that. Pound 250, keyword UNICEF.
Starting point is 00:59:31 You can make a gift in someone's honor. You can make a gift yourself. You can make the difference for a child somewhere else in the world. Christmas just passed, so you can do it for a New Year's resolution. A New Year's resolution. That's right. I love that. Around this time of year, do you think people think it's the holidays so they don't think they can give as much because they've got other things on their mind, like presents and stuff like that?
Starting point is 00:59:48 No, you know, I think especially right after Christmas, we're all sitting there with the wrapping paper, you know, wrapping it up, throwing it away, getting it together. Exactly. End of year giving before that little tax break. That's right. Right at the end of the year, it's going to count for your taxes. That's right.
Starting point is 01:00:02 This is the time to do it. And also, you know, I know in my house, I looked around on that morning and I thought, how lucky are we? You know, I've got my kids surrounding me. I've got my husband sitting next to me. We're going to have a big dinner. And I know for kids around the world, that's just not happening. And donations are, you can write it off on taxes for people out there, right? You can totally write it off on taxes.
Starting point is 01:00:24 And 90 cents of every dollar we collect goes to the children around the world. Now, there was a rumor that your CEO was making over a million dollars a year. Totally not true. Totally not. You know, and that rumor said I was driving a Rolls Royce. So I'll tell you, when that got texted out, I took a picture of me driving my Prius, and I texted it back, and I said,
Starting point is 01:00:41 this is how I roll, fire your fact checker. And the person who texted that out said that he would make a gift. I'm still waiting on it. You know, I hate stuff like that. Where do these fake stories come from? I hate stuff like that because I feel like public servants
Starting point is 01:00:52 should be treated like that. Like teachers, doctors, people like you, military people, they should be millionaires. Like they should be riding around in phantoms and stuff like that. They would give their money to whatever. But I'm saying we should treat them like that and I think the services should be free, but phantoms and stuff like that. They would give their money to whatever. But I'm saying we should treat them like that.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And I think the services should be free. But that's a whole nother story. It's a different level of socialism that I'm thinking about. Well, there we go. You know, no, you know, listen, I make a great seller. You can check it out on our 990. It's public knowledge. We're a public trust.
Starting point is 01:01:17 But at the same time, you know, for people to make up rumors about nonprofits, I don't think they understand when you spread that. Right. You cost lives. You cost actual lives. A person who would have made a gift who doesn't, $1 buys enough clean drinking water to keep a kid alive for 20 days. Wow. So we lose $1, 20 days. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:37 All right. So every gift amount counts. Every donation that you can make counts right now. We have one day, right, to meet our goal? One day. One day. We're going to do it, too. Okay. Listeners out there, we're going to do this. I need you right now. We have one day, right, to meet our goal? One day. One day. We're going to do it, too. Okay. Listeners out there, we're going to do this. I need you right now. How can they donate one more time? Tell them again.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Pound 250. Keyword UNICEF. Okay, perfect. And you can take, what's the minimum you can give? I don't even think there is a minimum. Oh, cool. So they can give a dollar. They can give a dollar and they can give a lot more. The more the merrier. How much you give give Michelle and me?
Starting point is 01:02:06 I throw a stack on it. I put a thousand dollars. I put a thousand dollars in it. You are amazing. Thank you. That means we all have to. All right. We move as a union.
Starting point is 01:02:14 You guys are awesome. Three grand from the Breakfast Club. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We don't got to do it until the 31st, right?
Starting point is 01:02:23 You'll do it today. Today. Right now. Right now. When I check to get kicked in. Is it today or tomorrow? Morning, everybody. It's DJ MV Angela Yee, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
Starting point is 01:02:38 He done cursed us out. Get it off your chest, Birdman. I ain't got to talk no more. I don't understand the angle. So why come here? I said it already I ain't got to talk no more Because I don't understand the angle I said it already So why come here? I did it already I'm here, so what's happening?
Starting point is 01:02:50 I mean, it's all good But I'm saying why And I'm here, what's happening? I'm all good But I'm saying why come here just to curl us up? I'm here, what's happening, man? I wanted to see you I wanted to talk to you on your man and your face
Starting point is 01:03:01 Absolutely You understand me? I knew a few places you was at. I could have pulled up, but I don't think that was gangster. I wanted to come look in your face like a man and tell you how I feel. Okay. You understand me? Straight up like a man.
Starting point is 01:03:14 So what's the issue? If it was an issue, you'll feel me. I just come to let y'all know, stop, put some respect on my name. You understand me? When y'all saying my name, put some respect on it. Did you pull up on Ross that way or Trick Daddy? I'm pulling up on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I'm the radio guy. Why pull up on the radio guy? Don't act tough with the radio guy. I hate my name. Y'all finished or y'all done? I ain't got no more talking. Let's rock. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah. Grand opening, grand closing. All right. Well, there you have it. We good. We good. There you have it. Man, what about all my notes?
Starting point is 01:03:49 We good. That's it. Quickest Breakfast Club interview ever. Well, that's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Well, if you just joined us, Birdman came up here and the interview didn't go that way.
Starting point is 01:04:02 You knew it was going to go that way. It was very quick. He was very upset. From our understanding behind the scenes, he wanted to just come and address some things. Yeah, he wanted to come. They said he was excited to come, that he wanted to come talk to us. Listen, man. He wanted to get some things off his chest, and he did.
Starting point is 01:04:16 So let's actually play. Because, you know, as soon as you walk into this room, we start taping immediately. Because we never know. Yeah, because there's always some good stuff before or after. Go, let's play. So this is what happens when Birdman, as soon as he walks in. As soon as he walks in. Y'all ready? Yes, sir. I'm gonna start this
Starting point is 01:04:31 straight telling all three of y'all stop playing with my name. Let's go on there. Let's go. Stop playing with my name. Let's do it on camera. Stop playing with my name. Let's go right on there. Come up respected. Stop playing with my name. All three of y'all, stop playing with my name. I ain't going to say it no more. Stop playing with my name. Come on, respect it. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Stop playing with my name. All three of y'all. Stop playing with my name. I ain't going to say it no more. Here we go. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Now, the reason I kept saying let's go is because the cameraman was taking his time. We don't waste no good content. I was like, let's go. You will not come in here and curse us out. And we not going to get it on camera. That's what I'm saying. Let's go. We were trying to tape it quick. The cameraman was taking his time. But what happened?. You will not come in here and curse us out. And we're not going to get it on camera. We're not going to get it on the radio. We were trying to tape it quick.
Starting point is 01:05:08 The cameraman was taking his time. But what happened was Birdman came in here and tried to curse us out. Right. He was trying to shake up the interview before the interview started. Mm-hmm. Thinking that the interview would be sweet. But it wouldn't have been. We just still asked the questions we wanted to ask. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Well, he tried to do the intimidation thing. Came in here with like seven guys. Mm-hmm. You know? And my thing is, yo, anything I've ever said about a person on the radio, I'm going to say to their face. So I'm thinking if you come in here, you come in here to address those issues. Right. That right there, to me, that was some suckers.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yeah, that's anything we do up here. If we talk about you or make a comment about you, when you come up here, we're going to make that same comment. I don't like the coming up here just trying to show out on the tough guys. Yeah, I think sometimes people try to plan to come up here and do certain things. Don't try to be tough to the radio guys, especially when people like Trick Daddy has been up here. What did Trick Daddy have to say about Birdman? Let's play the audio.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I've done business with Birdman. Some are good and some are bad. I just think when you try to be a CEO and you try to be a rapper and you try to be a ladies' man and you try to be a girlfriend and you're trying to be a ladies' man and you're trying to be a girlfriend and you're trying to be a girlfriend. A crip and a blood. You're trying to be a girlfriend. Why you call them a girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:06:11 I don't know. That's what they said. Oh, you didn't like what I said? I'm like DJ Khaled. I got it from the street. Okay, and Ross was up here. Ross had things to say about Birdman. What did Ross say?
Starting point is 01:06:20 Between Wayne and him, and he spoke about it. What's your relationship with Birdman? I don't have one with Birdman. For me to see the way things are transpiring, I can't respect that, and I don't respect it. Have you had that convo with Birdman, boss to boss, like you need to treat your people better?
Starting point is 01:06:35 Not at all. I mean, that's what I wanted to build my team after, the way their kids was molding together, the way their family was. So for me to see this, that's a no-go. They know how I play. Birdman know how I get down. He was in Miami a long time. He know double M active. What up, y'all? It's DJ Envy
Starting point is 01:06:52 Angelie. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. This year is a time of giving. So make sure you donate to UNICEF to help save children's lives this holiday season. Use your cell phone to dial pound 250 and say the keyword UNICEF. That's pound 250 keyword UNICEF
Starting point is 01:07:08 to make a donation. The People's Choice Mix is coming up, so get your request in at 800-585-1051. The Breakfast Club. What up, y'all? It's DJ MV Angelie. Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're standing with UNICEF to give hope to the children first.
Starting point is 01:07:26 We need you to help make a difference by donating to help save children's lives. Use your cell phone to dial pound 250 and say the keyword UNICEF. That's pound 250, keyword UNICEF. Join the movement and give this holiday season with the Breakfast Club. What do you think about Birdman's approach? Let's start in a row. I was kind of geeked out because they called me a couple of weeks ago and they said Birdman wanted to do the interview and I was
Starting point is 01:07:47 hyped. I was like, that's great. It would be great for the culture, you know, because we don't really get to talk to Birdman and see the history and see everything that's going on for him not paying his artists allegedly to, you know, him kissing Wayne allegedly, to all that stuff. They called me at four in the morning and said are you going to be here on this day? Birdman wants
Starting point is 01:08:04 to come. I said, absolutely. Because, I mean, listen, I have no problem with the confrontation. Confrontations ain't never scared me in no way, shape or form. Anything I said about you on the radio, I'm going to say to your face, period. So I wasn't stressing on that, but I thought that it would have went better than that. But I always say you can never tell somebody how to react. So I can't sit here and say that the way he reacted was wrong. I just don't respect it. Because if you got an issue, let's talk about the issue.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Don't come in here with seven dudes trying to intimidate people because you ain't pull up on Ross like that. You ain't pull up on Trick like that. Don't pull up on the radio guys acting tough. I cannot stand when these artists come in here and try to act tough with us. Go act tough with the people that's out here acting tough. Okay? Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Angel, you got your notes all prepared, and you was all ready. Well, here's the thing. I don't understand what he's mad about, because I feel like if you really don't mess with us, then you shouldn't have came up here. No, I can see why he's mad. But I'm saying you shouldn't have came up here. I can see why.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And if you want to come up here and confront, if you want to confront, let's have a conversation. Now, I don't feel like I've ever spoken. I've interviewed Birdman before. Me too. At my former job. Great interview. And I was very prepared for this one.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I had a lot of things we wanted to talk about, discuss. I thought it was going to be great. But I'm thinking maybe in the rumor report, there's certain things that I don't make up, but maybe report on that he doesn't like. I know for me, I talked about him breaking up with Wayne and then hooking up with Thug. You know what I'm saying? We never stopped talking about him kissing Wayne in the mouth. Artists and bills that he allegedly doesn't pay.
Starting point is 01:09:33 We've definitely discussed that. I got calls from his people yesterday saying that he was upset because he feels like whenever I say things like, why would you sign with Birdman? He don't pay nobody. It messes his business up. I can understand that. That's understandable. I wanted him to come up here and clear it up. Me and Bird was cool. We were on tour with eachman. He don't pay nobody. He messes his business up. I can understand that. That's understandable. I wanted him
Starting point is 01:09:46 to come up here and clear it up. Me and Bird was cool. We were on tour with each other. He actually offered me a deal last year to sign me to Cash Money last year. Oh, that's right. I remember that. Yeah, you offered me a deal. And I talked to him about Jay Electronica previously. He wanted to sign him because he's from New Orleans also. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:02 So let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Yo, yo, this is your boy Keith J from the DMV, man. What's up? Straight Entertainment. What do you think about Birdman's approach, man? Was it justified? Nah, nah. He just wanted to, you know, pop off on the cameras and everything.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I mean, if he was going to do something like you said, he'd see you in the streets. He should have just kept the interview going and said what he had to say. But it's all about entertainment. It's just like WWE. I mean, I'm a Brad fan for life, but it's entertainment. It's the media industry. It's just like WWE. I mean, I'm a bad fan for life, but it's entertainment. It's the media industry. It's a disgusting business. But I wish he would have cleared everything up.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I wish we'd have had a chance to talk to him about all those things. I don't ever want to talk to Birdman. I'm cool on Birdman. He was calling me yesterday trying to get us on the phone and all that. I'm good. I didn't know Birdman before this.
Starting point is 01:10:41 I don't need to know Birdman after this. God bless him. I wish him the best. I'm cool on Birdman. I spoke to don't need to know Birdman after this. God bless him. I wish him the best. I'm cool on Birdman. I spoke to Birdman after that, and he did apologize, and he said he would love to come back up here and talk to us. And he said he wanted to talk to you face-to-face as well. No, that wasn't happening.
Starting point is 01:10:56 They called me for that yesterday, too. They wanted to meet face-to-face. I'm like, nope. He was like, can y'all get on the phone? I'm like, man, let me call y'all back. So y'all are hearing me say it now. I'm cool on Birdman. I don't need to have no conversations with Birdman.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Didn't know him before this. Don't need to know him after this. God bless him. Birdman's the justified. Please. First of all, like Charlamagne said, for you to take the time to come to the radio station to address me, that's not being a man.
Starting point is 01:11:18 You told him that you've seen him plenty of times, but you never addressed him. And then the fact that he was addressing all three of you guys, including a female, a little Spanish female, was straight up. Is she Spanish now? I thought she was talking about Envy. Envy is a Spanish female. No, you're a Spanish female.
Starting point is 01:11:33 No, I wasn't saying Envy a female. I'm sorry, Envy. I wasn't saying you a female. I would have just said a like. Shut up. All right, go ahead. It's just whack. Because if you was a man, you would have pulled them to the top when you seen them.
Starting point is 01:11:47 But you waited until you got on the radio station to take a five-second interview. Like, come on. Prince died. We ain't worried about you. Hello, who's this? This Cam. Birdman's approach was justified? No, man.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Not at all, man. Come on, man. What you coming at Charlemagne for, man? You know, I'm for Savannah, man. We kicking with Charlemagne. He right across the bridge. Yes, sir. All right, bro. Yes, man. Come on, man. What you coming at Charlamagne for, man? You know, I'm for Savannah, man. We kicking with Charlamagne. He right across the bridge. Yes, sir. All right, bro.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Yes, sir. Well, what's tomorrow's story, guys? Tomorrow's story is Birdman wasn't wrong. Because I always tell y'all, you can never tell somebody how they should react to a certain situation. But I know for me, I'm cool on Birdman. Boy, like I said, he did call after the show, and he apologized. He said he wanted to come back up. Did you accept his apology?
Starting point is 01:12:25 Um nothing bothers me I don't care I mean the fact that we was able to get it on air is what made my day. That's all I care about. I love that Envy tried to act like nothing
Starting point is 01:12:32 happened right before the mics went on. Okay okay hold on. I was trying to get it I was trying to get it on air like you talking behind the scenes does nothing for our
Starting point is 01:12:38 listeners. I want our listeners to see everything every aspect everything that happens that's why I was trying to get the cameraman to hurry up. I would love to know what it is that really in particular
Starting point is 01:12:47 has him upset though. I don't care. The fact that Charlamagne said that why would you sign to Birdman because he don't pay. He felt like that messes up his money because a lot of artists might like, I won't sign to him. God bless Birdman. I didn't know Birdman before this. I don't need to know him after this.
Starting point is 01:13:03 No need to call my phone and ask to holler and all that. I'm cool on Birdman before this. I don't need to know him after this. No need to call my phone and ask to holler and all that. I'm cool on Birdman 5-star. Okay. Good luck to him. I wish him the best. He's had a great life. He will continue to have a great life with or without The Breakfast Club. But my thing is, don't come here if you really don't want to address issues
Starting point is 01:13:20 and get things off your chest. Don't come in here and try to curse us out with seven dudes and intimidate people and do the old fake guy 1990s tough rapper thing. That is whack. He might have been. He just might have had a bad morning, man. He might have just... Who knows? Well, let's pop bottles. Stupid ass. It's the Breakfast Club.
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