The Breakfast Club - Classics: Keyshia Cole, TD Jakes, Ask Yee and Ask C&E

Episode Date: November 23, 2017

Thursday 11/23 - Today on the show we flashed back to when Keyshia Cole visited the show and spoke about her new album, her love life and more. Also, we went back to when TD Jakes visited us for the f...irst time and spoke about his new book, politics and more. Also, we flashed back to your favorite and Ask Yee's as well as your favorite Ask C& E ( Charlamagne and Envy). Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:31 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I can't believe you guys are the best. Collectively known as Breakfast Club, bitches. It's your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is John. Hey, John, get it off your chest, bro.
Starting point is 00:02:22 No, I'm blessed, actually. Today's my daughter's third birthday. Okay. I'm happy. You sure the baby's over, bro. No, I'm blessed, actually. Today's my daughter's third birthday. Okay. I'm happy. You sure the baby's over? Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. I've been with my girl for 10 years, Charlamagne, just like you. True.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Don't worry about me. I got 19. 19 years, sir. Give me my nine. I got 24. I got 10, so I'm coming up. Damn, why y'all making him feel bad? I was having sex with my beautiful wife last night.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Made her orgasm six times. Gross. You lie. So what's wrong? I probably should have. I felt like a champ like yesterday. You were lying. Or she's a great faker.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Yeah, she's definitely a great faker. Oh, you took a gas station pill. No, she's a s***. That's how I know it was popping last night. Could be urine. Yes. She definitely peed on you. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I still got it. In your mouth? That too. That was the first one. Hello, who's this? Yeah, this is Donovan from Virginia. Donovan from the 757 or 804. Get it off your chest, too. That was the first one. Hello, who's this? Yeah, this is Donovan from Virginia. Donovan from the 757 or 804. Get it off your chest, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, I'm blessed because I'm a 28-year-old homeowner. I got a great, secure job. I got a beautiful wife. I got two beautiful children. And I woke up this morning. Not everybody woke up this morning. You right. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:18 That sounds like you're balling to me. Sounds like you're balling to me, my brother. Absolutely. Doing big things out here. You're not suffering from erectile dysfunction at an early age, are you? Double D! Double D is here. What's up, man? Why you mad, Double D?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Listen, man, I took my son to the Y last night. Telling him he's going to play basketball. I said, I'm going to be home by 9 o'clock. Joe walked up in the house at 1230. He's 15 years old, and he had that good smell and stuff on his clothes. What's up with that, man? But did you bust his ass? No, that's my thing.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Should I break one of his legs? You goddamn right. You can't break one of his legs. No, yeah, don't break his legs. But he should be punished. He should know. He can't hold a smell like the goodness, too. Man.
Starting point is 00:03:55 He's going to get broke if his legs blow. You should wake his ass up right now. He probably sleeping in heaven. He probably got some last night. There's no way he should break curfew and be high. That's right. Please don't tell me he ain't getting it. I ain't ready to be no grandfather.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Come on, what was you doing at 15? All right, then. Go ahead, go discipline Tyreek, man. Go wake his ass up right now. Ty's in trouble. I want you to call right now, wake his ass up, tell him to go do the dishes. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:04:22 800-585-1051. If you're upset or you need to vent, call us right now. Or maybe you feel blessed. Phone lines are wide open. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's your time to get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? It's Kendra. Hey, Kendra, get it off your chest. Okay, so I'm real blessed, but I also feel really bad because yesterday when I was leaving work,
Starting point is 00:04:53 I was on my way to court for traffic. I got about a week or so ago, and it was a truck that pulled up on the side of me. And so I rolled my window down because I thought maybe they were trying to alert me of something that was going on With my vehicle And all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:05:07 She's like B, what's your problem? This and that and the third So after we rolled through the stoplight They sped past me I get to the stop sign They're standing out with bottles Throwing them at my car
Starting point is 00:05:17 Really? Yes Oh, it's because of what now? I guess because I'm cute I don't know Oh, no You one of those Because I'm cute Everybody hates me Because I'm so. I don't know. Oh, no. You one of those? Because I'm cute.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Everybody hates me because I'm so pretty. Well, hey, keep it positive. It's not her fault she's cute. Thank you, Angela. So you mean to tell me some girls just randomly started throwing bottles at you out of red light because you cute? Honestly, like, I don't. What'd you do? Tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Did you cut somebody off? No, they actually cut me off. So I was actually surprised. I'm like, what is the problem? But they seemed very upset. Well, you just keep on being cute. There's nothing you can do about that. What's your Instagram?
Starting point is 00:05:53 Let me see if you were. And don't you be out here with your cute self-fighting nobody. What's your Instagram? It's LonelyLessLion82. Hold on, let me look at it. Hold on, hold on. What is it now? It's L-I-O-E-S-S-H-O-R-L-E-O-H.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Well, okay, your account is private, and it just says, I'm just going to keep doing me. Oh, yeah, you ain't even got a picture. It's your profile pic. It's just a caption. I'm just going to keep doing me. You ain't that cute. You ain't that cute.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Ain't no way. Okay, I am. You know what? Matter of fact, I just turned my privacy off for you. Oh! Let me go back in then. Okay, I see. Okay, let? Matter of fact, I just turned my privacy off for you. Oh! Let me go back in then. Okay, I see.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Okay, let me see. I'm looking. All right. I can see the cuteness. You got a nice little birthmark on your face. What side of the cheek is that? It's on the right side. That's what God kissed you at?
Starting point is 00:06:39 You know what I mean? He is, and I got a special heart that's close to the birthmark. You cute, but I don't know if you throwing bottles at for no reason, cute. You did something in that traffic. Oh, stop it. Leave her alone. You did something in that traffic and you ain't telling us now. No, I promise. All right, well, you keep it cute, okay?
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Starting point is 00:07:02 I'm just growing through. Have a good one, mama. You as well. All right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:07:11 The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Who looks amazing this morning. Keisha Cole. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Thank you. I got dressed for you all. I walked in the building who looks amazing this morning. Keisha Cole. Thank you. I got dressed for you all. I walked in the bathroom and Keisha was in there, but I didn't get to see nothing. Oh, my God. Why were you in her bathroom? Wait a minute. Oh, you didn't lock the door. No, the girls were helping me pull my shirt.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Like, you know, I have big, you know, breasts. Yes. Sometimes he walked in, but he didn't see nothing. I didn't see nothing. And as soon as I closed the door, I was like, rest. So sometimes, and he walked in, but he didn't see me. I didn't see nothing. And as soon as I closed the door, I was like, damn. You're like,
Starting point is 00:07:48 I should have stayed a second longer. I thought she was in there, but you know. Hey, might as well be there. A vibe. So 11-11 Reset is out now.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yes, thank you guys for being so supportive. And last time you were here, we were talking love and hip hop and all of that. And then you really are on love and hip hop now.
Starting point is 00:08:04 She didn't confirm last time, though, did she? No. She didn't really confirm. She said they were in talks, though. Right, in talks. What made you do love and hip-hop? Mona, cut the check. Well, not only that, but I felt that it was a great platform to showcase the music and, you know, just be a good driver
Starting point is 00:08:19 for the album. So, Keisha, you know I watched the Love and Hip-Hop reunion last night, and I saw you perform, Incapable. Loved it. Thank you. And clearly you wrote that song about some real life situations.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Of course. The whole album is pretty much, yeah, it's personal. How did Boobie feel when he heard that song? Because he had to feel
Starting point is 00:08:37 like she's talking about me. I don't know how to nag. No, I'm serious. Because you guys are still cool. Yeah, of course. At least on tv he lives in your house with you not anymore okay yeah how did that work because y'all weren't together but y'all living in the same house he was going through some things and um it was worrying me that you know
Starting point is 00:08:56 he wasn't gonna be able to spend as much time with dj as was necessary to have spent with him and i and i just didn't agree with that. And I just was like, dude, it's all good. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just mind your business. And then, you know, we get along. That's very mature. Because it's hard for people to, you know, you watch him date somebody else.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, of course. And he comes to you for advice with Brooke Valentine. Yeah. That's awkward. Even me, when I'm watching it, it feels awkward. Like, yeah, I mean, you know. Thank God that all those emotions are gone. Like, I don't feel anything.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Sheesh. So that's, I mean, I pray for that. You know what I'm saying? Like, because, I mean, there was times that I would really wonder why and ask myself, like, is it you? What's going on here? You know, but then I just realized that, you know, with me or without me, you're still going to be a slucket.
Starting point is 00:09:46 A slucket. A slucket bucket. to be a slucket A slucket? A slucket bucket A slucket bucket No, you know I mean, that's jokingly But seriously joking You know, you just have to realize that It's like, listen man There ain't no hard feelings
Starting point is 00:09:59 You know, it happened the way it happened Everything happens for a reason I think that Boobie's a poor decision maker I'm going to be honest with you. When he came here last time and he told us he was quitting the NBA for rap, I told him that was the worst thing that he could possibly even think of doing. Oh, he came after I came that time? Now, he was up here one time by himself.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Let's flash back to that moment. I think a lot of people don't understand what I'm doing right now. Nobody would tell me, look, you got a million dollars over here. Go do this. Because the headline sounds crazy. Boobie Gibson leaves the NBA to start a rap career. You're like, what? For what? Yeah, so to me, that just shows you the love and the passion.
Starting point is 00:10:30 For me to be able to do that and be okay with what anybody got to say about me doing it and still pursue it, to me, that should tell you just how passionate I am about what I'm doing right now. I heard that interview, and I was like, you know, you can't stop somebody's dreams of what they feel like they want to pursue in their lives. Like, you know, more power to you. But when God, like, gave you a platform to be able to do, you know, what you wanted to do, it's like, I mean, I think you're looking at it, like you said, to me, it's the same. It is. And he could have promoted both.
Starting point is 00:11:01 You see what Damian Lillard does? He could have been on the court and rapping at the same time. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. She's like, that's his decision. Yeah, and I can't, you know. Like, I always say he's always going to be my family. So, I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:15 You are growing up. I would never expect this from you. This is crazy. We're not used to seeing you happy. That's crazy. I've been knowing all y'all for years, so I assume you guys could see it. But I'm like, really?
Starting point is 00:11:33 Everywhere I went, I was like, that is so amazing. Just thankful for that. I really did pray for that, though, because really, to be on that show with Gib and look at all the things that you're doing, and it's his personal business, but even you guys should things that, like, you're doing. And, like, you know, it's his personal business. But, like, even you guys should check out the reunion. Because I think he said something like, oh, yeah, I'm single now.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I can do what I want. I was like, sir, you were doing all of this while you were married, though. Right. Like, stop. Like, this is no different. And he really pursued you heavy. Like, why do you? And was asking, saying it was a God thing and and God said, and God is this, and God...
Starting point is 00:12:05 And it was just to a point where I was like, okay, you know what? You can't keep using God. Right. You're gonna go to hell if you keep using him. It's interesting, because I've seen the exact opposite in my life. Like, I think that when you do right by your wife, and you do right by your family, greater things happen. Greater things happen. Absolutely. I mean, there was times we went through that, too.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But, you know, I'm just happy that we're finally going through with the divorce, and everything is everything is you know it's just gonna be an outcome it's like okay it's over you know like we you know it's over and i'm happy to know that finally you know it's just now he can come to you right and talk about women but when you go to him and talk about guys that you're dating it seems wasn't that? He still has an issue with that. You can give him advice and he has no problem talking to you. Because men feel like that's always especially when you got a baby. That is true.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Absolutely not though. No. Like no. That's hard. Because you know what? I mean I understand that frame of mind because for a few years like I would just run back to him. You know what I'm saying? Like it was just easy. You know what I'm saying? But then it was just easy. You know what I'm saying? But then after, like, I was like, okay, this is going to really seriously damage my son
Starting point is 00:13:09 because, like, every time I go back, I'm getting more upset. I'm crying in front of, it got to the point I was crying in front of DJ. Like, you know, I was just like, you know what? No, no, no, no, no. It ain't, the game worth it. I'm sorry. It's just not worth it. It's not.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You know, it's like, come on, we got to grow up here. You know, bottom line, putting my foot down on that. All right, we got more with Keisha Cole when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:13:33 The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Keisha Cole is here. Charlamagne? What have you been studying?
Starting point is 00:13:46 What is it? What book did you read? Like, is it meditation? It's the Bible, bro. Like, what is it? It's the Bible, bro. Are you spiritually grounded? No. I don't know. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. It's just been in my spirit. I just...
Starting point is 00:14:01 I'm just over it. Just like over it. I'm happy too I'm happy to cuz you usually you know for beating a bitch's ass when I heard you was gonna be on loving hip hop I said oh my no for beating up girls yeah I've never heard of Keisha actually physically putting hands on some well I, I'm doing Wildin' Out on Wednesday, I think. Really? Good segue. Yeah. You know, 11-11 Reset is in stores now.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Super excited. I really appreciate you guys for, you know, always having me and always being supportive. Is Boobie on child support? For, like, me paying him or him paying me?
Starting point is 00:14:41 You're paying him. Man, you gotta pay him? I don't know what's happening these days. You gotta pay sp to pay him? I don't know what's happening these days. You got to pay spousal support? I don't know. Oh. They're still married.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Does he pay you for the child? You're not divorced yet? Yeah, we filed for divorce. But you're not divorced yet? No, it takes 60 days. Right. And then it'll be... Is he trying to stop it ever?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Like, let's not do it? Has he come back and been like, come on, can we work this out? No, not this time. That's why I'm really excited. Right. Yeah, this is a very exciting time. And to be alive, you know, it's just like, it's not even like, I'm trying to say it's a bad deal. Like, I'm really excited that we're finally, both of us, able to like get over this and be like,
Starting point is 00:15:23 like, yo, let's just start afresh. Let's start anew. It's different, but let's go for it because it's not going to work between us. Do you think having your biological father back helped bring some stability to your life? Mental, spiritually, yes. Of course. He's so mentally,
Starting point is 00:15:39 he's just an intelligent guy. He knows a lot about the Bible as well. He's very grounded. His house amazing, and his car is amazing. You know, his wife is amazing. You know, it's just like I can't believe what I—just like how this is happening. And I—like, it's just crazy. Did you realize that you were missing something this whole time? Of course.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I mean, you know, not knowing what that piece of you really is. You know, I was just going to go on Ancestors.com, just going to rap. But then I was like, you know, I mean, him being blessed, you know, me being blessed with him in my life. Finally, I was able to look at family members and actually identify finally with people that I felt like, oh my god we have the same eyes like I have a picture of all my aunts I was looking at, I know they probably thought I was weird because I was just like staring at them at the barbecue
Starting point is 00:16:34 I've never seen people that I look like ever you know what I'm saying, like they say my mom and I used to look like when she was younger but you know, to finally see that I was just like so when she was younger, but you know, to finally see that, I was just like, so just in awe about it. So, I mean, all of it all coming together is so amazing for me. How's your mom doing?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Um, it's been a little while since I've spoken to her. She kind of made me upset. Why? She, um, it was like a whole big thing a while ago. And actually, they were trying to get her to get on Love & Hip Hop. But I was just like, you know, no, you know, like, it's just not that time. Like, you know, I've done that before. And she promised she would get better. And it's not for people to see like that.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, my whole thing was like her getting better and actually changing. But like this time, it's just like, no, I'm not doing that, you know i'm saying like my whole thing was like her getting better and actually changing but like this time it's just like no i'm not doing that you know and i had her out there and i was actually gonna try to like clean her up a bit you know like get her all nice get her dolled up and everything she just ran off mother's day just ran off i got me all in the streets looking for i'm all in l.a i'm like running through the streets, like, with an Uber. The Uber, like, I've been through this, dude. Like, rolling up. So I'm like, you need to come on.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Like, get in the car. Like, literally, like. She back on drugs, though? I mean, I'm assuming. I mean, I don't know. Like, she was, you know, there. She was in Skid Row. But my thing was more so, like, it just hurt me it was Mother's Day.
Starting point is 00:18:00 You know what I'm saying? That you disappeared when my child was looking. And then on top of that It just was like I was crying to her I said ma I feel like one day I'm gonna come looking for you And I ain't gonna find you And she was like Oh you'll be alright
Starting point is 00:18:11 I'm just like Yeah I'm gonna I need a break Do you have resentment Towards like I mean your father's Back in your life now
Starting point is 00:18:21 But did you have resentment For him not being there All these years And do you have like Res have resentment to your mom for? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. And that was so scary, I think, for my father because he was like, he was looking at me like, what is she going to say? Like, how is she going to react? And I was just like, I'm so blessed to have you.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like, you know, whatever happened before is not, we don't have to worry about today. What we can do about today and how much we can grow and learn each other. And, you know, start with today. Like, we're not going to worry about yesterday. Don't worry about that. Like, the only thing that, like, you need to worry about is the fact that God had me this whole entire time. Trust me. You know what's amazing is that I feel like people could relate to the feeling in your music so much more because we know you.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Like, we know a lot of really personal things about you that I'm sure it's hard for you to put out there. No, it's not hard. Okay. It's a blessing. But I feel like we know you, and that's why you can listen to the music and be like, okay, I feel what she's talking about,
Starting point is 00:19:15 and I know she went through this, and that's why she's saying this. It's a lot more. It's honesty and trust with my, yeah. Because you, like, I feel that too, actually. And it's a blessing to be able to be something that somebody can say, okay, you know, I can do this. I can do this. And the backlash and everything could never equate to somebody walking up to me and saying, yo, you helped me.
Starting point is 00:19:38 You helped me change my life. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can deal with all the hate and the backlash behind it. Honestly. You think you'll, how do you feel about love now and opening up? you didn't say I can deal with all the hate and the backlash behind it honestly you think how do you feel about love now and opening up do you think
Starting point is 00:19:49 that it's gonna be damn near impossible for another man to come along and sweep you off your feet oh is there another man
Starting point is 00:19:56 uh huh um she said that like she had an orgasm last night no I wish.
Starting point is 00:20:05 No, but no, no, not that soon. Yeah, I mean, sort of, yeah. There is somebody. But, you know, it's a slow, like, kind of like, you know, procedure, like with the whole getting to know each other thing and just like, you know, it takes time. Now, does he, do people like, okay, you're dating somebody new now, right? It's in the beginning stages. Do they get mad if they see you like hanging out with Floyd Mayweather?
Starting point is 00:20:30 And they're like, what's this about? I don't want you around. No, I don't think so. Because, you know, me and Floyd are not together. That's a friend of mine. And the guys still get insecure about. Well, that's not cool, especially if you're just friends. Because, you know, guys have friends. Yeah, but everybody's friend has not generated over a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Okay? It's not Floyd. Not gives gifts like Birkin bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he doesn't give me Birkin bags. There's no need to fret over that. He's giving you a gift, I'm sure, though. Of course.
Starting point is 00:21:05 What is he giving you a gift, I'm sure, though. Of course. What is he giving you? What has Floyd gotten you, Keisha? He is crazy. Some jewelry, maybe? Mm-mm. Something that cranks up? Cranks up? Something that cranks up.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Jesus Christ. See, that's exactly why you don't want your woman hanging around Floyd goddamn Mayweather. But look, if you're not... What the hell did he buy her? I'm not anyone's woman, though. They're just talking. They're getting to know each other.
Starting point is 00:21:35 But if you're dating someone and he's like, you let Floyd give you a gift? I wouldn't do that. No, I wouldn't do that. What, take the gift from Floyd or what? Yeah, I mean, you know, no. I don't, you know. If I was Floyd, I wouldn't do that. What, take the gift from Floyd or what? Yeah, I mean, you know, no. That's, I don't, you know. If I was Floyd, I'd test that.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I'd wait till you start dating somebody and see you a Bugatti. Yeah. I can't accept this. See what you're going to do now. He wouldn't do that. No, he wouldn't. That's nothing to do. That's not how he is.
Starting point is 00:22:00 That's another conversation. All right, well, there you have it. Keisha Cole, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, Bishop T.D. Jakes.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. There's a new book out called Soar. Yes, sir. This book is very timely because it's about entrepreneurship, which leads to economic empowerment. You say that you don't have to be an entrepreneur to think like one and take flight with your dreams explain that more for those who haven't read it. You know I really wrote the book because I really
Starting point is 00:22:30 wanted to talk to people who are trying to launch their careers get their dreams up accomplish their goals most people who have accomplished something never take the time to teach other people how they did it there are some basic principles that go across the board regardless of what type of business you're trying to build what type of career brand you want. And I wrote the book, Soar, to show you how to build from the ground up. If you don't have all the capital and you don't have all the support, that still doesn't mean you can't fly. Now, what's interesting about you is that both of your parents were entrepreneurs. And I know I was actually just talking to some
Starting point is 00:23:01 kids yesterday that are thinking about getting into being an entrepreneur and trying to figure out those steps. And I was saying my parents never really instilled that in me. And so fortunately for you, you were kind of raised with that mindset and for your brothers and sisters. It makes a big difference if you come up in an environment where people are talking business all the time. And I mean, this was low impact business. My father started business with a bump in a bucket. That's it. And ended up with 52 employees and 10 trucks back in the 60s. But I grew up in the house of good days and bad days. I know what it's like when it's going good and then it's going bad.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Most people get out of business because they hit a bad spot. But it's like turbulence on a plane. If you just stay seated, everything's going to be all right. Things land on their feet again. And you have to withstand those struggles, those hard times, and you have to be on top of your business. You have to focus. You have to do what you have to do in the book. The book was
Starting point is 00:23:51 written based on the Wright brothers because these guys built an airplane that nobody had ever heard, didn't even know what to call it, and they built it in a bicycle shop. And I wrote it to say, you don't have to have everything that you need to build your dream. Take what you got.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Use what you got. Start where you are and build from there. And it's amazing what you can accomplish with your life. Now, let's go back a little bit, if y'all don't mind. Let's start. How did you get into the church? What got you in the church so heavy? It's kind of hard to remember a time that I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I grew up in that environment. I grew up around it. So I was exposed to it. So on one hand, I grew up playing the piano in the church. On the other hand, I ended up helping my father run a buffer at night. So I had a work ethic and a spiritual life almost all of my life.
Starting point is 00:24:36 And it's always been a part of my life. You ain't never played no sports? You got like a little nose guard built. I know. I know, but it's fake news, bro. It's fake news. I inherited these shoulders. I know, I know, but it's fake news, bro. It's fake news. I inherited these shoulders. I didn't earn them. My daddy gave me these.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Thank you, daddy. But the reality is I didn't do that. I really grew up in that kind of environment, and that's not to say I was any goody two-shoes. Don't think that by any stretch of the imagination. But I did grow up in that environment where there was faith on one hand, there was work on
Starting point is 00:25:08 the other. And that's kind of who I became. What made you take it so serious? Because, you know, every black family, most black families put their children in church and they get to a certain age and then they just kind of weasel out. Everybody not ordained. Not everybody stays for the long haul. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Nobody ever asked me that. That's question. Nobody ever asked me that. That's amazing. Nobody ever asked me that. I think what made me take it so seriously is my father got sick when I was 10. I grew up in a house with dialysis. I grew up in a house where we were juggling between life and death on a daily basis. Dialysis wasn't nearly as advanced as it is today. He died when I was 16.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And I think it was a choice between blowing my brains out and coming to God. And that was kind of where my head was at at that time, in a really, really bad spot. And I knew that there was something missing out of my life that related to fathering that I desperately needed, and I was trying to fill that hole in my life. And I think that has all the world to do with how I became who I am. And it's interesting because you do talk about your father with his business.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Even though he did grow his business to have 52 employees, you always felt like he could have really taken it to the next level if he would have had that mindset. Yeah, well, the thing I noticed about my dad, my dad was hard to describe because he did everything. He sold fish. He did everything imaginable. He was like the ultimate hustler. And then he got this business going and he was doing good. But he brought a hustling attitude into a business opportunity. And I noticed something that he was so busy doing it, he didn't have time to grow it.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And so in the book, I talk about the danger of keeping your hands on things so long that it deteriorates from what it could have been because you can hire somebody to do it, but you can't hire anybody to think it. You have to be able to market it. You have to be able to manage it. It's just because you have a talent doesn't mean you need to go into business doing that thing because business is not about doing it. It's about thinking it. How did you have the mindset to be in the church and have all these other businesses that you do? Because I'm sure the congregation looks at you and, you know, it's always
Starting point is 00:27:10 they're looking at you and say, well, where is he getting that money from? How is he making this? How is that? It's almost ridiculed of what they do. So how did you have that mind frame to continue to go and still do those businesses? The funny thing about that is I had my business before I had my church. T.D. Jakes Enterprises existed before I had the Potter's House.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So the church didn't have to get used to it. I came with it. Like Marvin Winans can sing and he brings a gift in the presence of also being a preacher. All you can give is who you are. It's not because I'm a preacher that I'm successful. I'm successful if I didn't preach.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I've done enough movies. I've done enough films that if I didn't preach at all, which puts me in a position where I don't preach. I've done enough movies. I've done enough films that if I didn't preach at all, which puts me in a position where I don't have to do it for the money. I can do it because I love it. So being bivocational is a blessing. I mean, Jesus was a carpenter. Paul was a tent maker. And I've been blessed to make films and started out doing plays, got a door and an opportunity to do something with Sony Pictures. I wasn't going to give up the ministry because I became more successful. And I wasn't going to give up the ministry because I became more successful, and I wasn't going to give up the opportunity because I was a preacher.
Starting point is 00:28:08 What do you say to people who call guys like yourself pulpit pimps because they feel like y'all have turned church into a business? Well, most of the guys who say that are standing outside, and it's like standing outside of your business calling you names. People who stand outside of something never really understand it. They make assumptions about things. They don't understand. And every ministry is different.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I'm not vouching for everybody. We're not monolithic. We're not all alike. But in our particular case, people who know our ministry know that we rehabilitate 10,000 inmates and help them to reduce the rate of recidivism. We have a year-long program that we take them through to get them back out in life. People who know our ministry know that we were boots on the ground in Katrina. We were there when they were snatching bodies out of there. We were there for the current hurricanes that we have all the way to Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 00:28:54 People who know our ministry know the work that we do all over the world, digging wells and whatnot. And then we have 300 people on staff. It's not just me. But when you come on TV, they see you. They see you and they see money and they don't see 300 other families who eat every day because of what we do. So if you're sitting around the barbershop
Starting point is 00:29:11 and you're making assumptions, assumptions have a root word. Ass. Bishop T.D. Jakes just said, how are you going to hit from the outside of the church? You can't even get in. All right. We got more with T.D. Jakes when we come back.
Starting point is 00:29:23 So don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We have the Bishop T.D. Jakes in the building.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Charlamagne? You relate all entrepreneurship to flying in this book. You mentioned the Wright Brothers earlier, but why flying? Well, because it is a bit like being suspended to start a business. You don't feel like you have anything under you. It is a scary situation. You start out on the ground, you end up in the air.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And what I'm really saying about a business, the Wright Brothers looked up in the air and thought the audacious thought, I belong up there at a time when that was totally ridiculous. They built something to take them there. People who build businesses must build the business to take them toward your dream. The business is not the dream.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It is the transportation to the dream. If you don't get that straight in the embryonic stages of building a business, you won't succeed. And the reason it's important that we have this conversation right now is women of color are going into business more readily than any other people group in the country. They are going into business that fast. Bad news is they're not staying in the business because they don't like access to capital and they don't have anybody to mentor them. And what I'm saying in the book, I don't care how talented you are, how gifted you are, you're better if you have a coach. Right. And you talk about the research of where the Wright Brothers went.
Starting point is 00:30:47 They said, okay, this is where the wind is going to be right for us to be able to take off. And then once you do take off, having the wind beneath you so that you can sustain yourself. That's one of my favorite points. I'm glad you brought that up. My experience is I've done a lot of things. I've done talk shows. I've done various types of businesses. No matter how good you build whatever it is you're building, if you don't get it in the right wind at the right time,
Starting point is 00:31:10 then you won't accelerate the way you need to. The Wright brothers built the first plane in Dayton, but they launched it in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina. And the main reason they went to Kitty Hawk is because the wind is right. And in the book, I use that as a metaphor to say, you might be doing the right thing in the wrong place or at the wrong time. If you get the right winds up under you, you become a lot more successful. Colonel Sanders built his business
Starting point is 00:31:34 at a time that women had gone to work and families were used to home-cooked meals. The timing was right. The wind was right. And in spite of the fact that he was 60-some years old, he launched a business that outlived him, outgrew him, and became a brand that's still here today. And money is a motivation, too.
Starting point is 00:31:50 We discussed that because a lot of people who are motivated to be successful think finance is what defines success. But that can't be the only thing that you're aiming for. No, it doesn't work. In fact, stats say that people who go into business because they need money are more apt to go out of business than anybody else. The success rate is deplorable. However, people who start a business to meet other people's needs are much more successful.
Starting point is 00:32:15 You don't have to market it as hard. You don't have to talk me into supplying something that I have a need for. So it's really about purpose-driven, not profit-driven. If you are purpose-driven, the profits will follow you. If you're profit-driven, you're always going to be hustling. What was your business before the church? I've always been involved in the church, but
Starting point is 00:32:35 I've done managed clothing. I was a buyer for a clothing store for men's fashion. I worked for Union Carbide, processing gases and acetylenes and oxidygens. For a number of years I've done just about everything. For my mother when I was a little boy. My mother was an avon lady.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I was a little boy helping her. I was hustling all of my life. I've always been doing something productive. I was actually a short order cook and later a chef for a restaurant. So I've done just a little bit of everything. I can throw down, brother.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I can hurt you real bad. You won't be able to wear nothing you got. A lot of people always talk about, you know, I have money or I have an idea. I want to start a business. What should I do? There's a lot of listeners that have money. They hit me and you all the time about what should I do?
Starting point is 00:33:23 What would you tell somebody that wants to create a business or start a business that have no idea, don't know where to start, or just clueless? Study everything you can about the business. Get every kind of magazine. Get around anybody who's doing what you want to do. Any kind of way before you start the business, not after. Before you start. Because the fact that you want to start a business in an area, every business has a culture, unspoken rules. And so in order to really find out how to do that, you have to get around people who are doing that.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Don't be afraid to enter in at ground level zero to get the information. Once you've gathered all the information, the second step, put your team together. You can't do it without the right team. It's very important that you get the right team. If you're going to build a team, don't build a team, which is a mistake most people make, associating with people who do what you do. Because if you surround yourself with people who do what you do, they're going to compete with you. You want people who are good at what you're not good at so they complete you.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Once you have your team together, and they should be completing you in that they accessorize your limitations. So you have to be good enough at what you do to know what you're not good at. Most people are too egotistical to admit that they're not good at anything so they don't build the right team because you want to be the master of everything.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You want to come up with the concept, develop the concept, share it with people, get a non-disclosure agreement before you do so, put together your team, and from your team you launch your dream. Another good piece of advice you give in the book, Saw, is
Starting point is 00:34:57 waiting patience and wanting it now. And you touch on how these millennials don't realize success is a process. It is definitely a process. And I do training camps for millennials. I'm passionate about them. I love them. When I'm standing over the corner
Starting point is 00:35:12 looking at me, who is my son. So when I see millennials, I see my sons. I want them to win. But I also want them to understand the amount of people who are going to put something on YouTube and make them rich is minuscule.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And so you can't wait 30 years to luck up on something because you saw a few people get in that door. You missed a huge opportunity. Number two, if you saw somebody older than you that you admired and you saw them doing something that you want to do, you didn't see the struggle they went through before they got to the success. We tend to advertise our success but not our struggle. So millennials have bought, some of them have bought into the notion, that's easy, I can do that. Many, many times the worst thing anybody, any age can do is to underestimate your opponent.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And when you get into business and when you get into life and when you get into marriage or when you get into church or when you get into a club or when you get into anything, you have an opponent to fight. Never underestimate your opponent. Hi, we got more with Bishop T.D. Jakes when we come back. Good morning, everybody. It's D.J. Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Bishop T.D. Jakes is here. Charlamagne? What about people who come to you and say, Bishop, I've been praying and I've been praying for a blessing and I've been praying for something to break through. I've been praying for this job, but nothing's falling through. What do you say to those people? That's one of the, that's really my audience. That's really
Starting point is 00:36:36 my audience and that's primarily why I wrote the book because faith without works is dead. And I spent a lot of times talking about faith. I wrote this book because now I want to talk about work. Because if you have all of that faith, you're asking God to do stuff that you got to do. You know, and if you don't do what you have to do, he can't do what he's going to do. And somebody's going to say, well, how can you say God can't? The Bible said that whatsoever he
Starting point is 00:37:02 doeth, whatsoever you do, God will prosper. If you don't do anything, he doesn't have anything to prosper. And so I'm not one of these guys, you know, it's magic, it's quick, it's easy, give an offering, spin around, shout three times, and you got it. It's not like that. If that would have worked, I would have done it. There's a lot of work that goes into doing anything that becomes successful. And anybody who stands outside of it and says that it's a scam or it's a game,
Starting point is 00:37:30 they only do that because they don't understand the work ethic that it takes to build buildings, hire people, do what you do. There's a lot of work in being successful in any industry. It doesn't matter what it is. Now, also, you know, you talk about praying. And, you know, when we had these catastrophes and you say pray for Houston or pray for Vegas, a lot of times under the comments, you
Starting point is 00:37:50 see people that say, you know, why would I pray to the same person that is destroying us or hurting us or causing these hurricanes or causing these shootings? What do you say to some of those people that don't believe? Well, you know, first of all, thankfully, we live in a country that you can believe whatever you want to believe without affecting the way I believe.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I am resolute in the fact that God is not nature. Yes, he could control nature. He could let us live forever, but God is not nature. He stands outside of nature. And when I say pray for Houston or pray for Florida or pray for so-and-so. I have the same mindset that I do about this book. We're going to pray on one hand. We're going to load up them trucks and get some help down there on the other. Damn right.
Starting point is 00:38:31 We need to do both. Amen. So when you start talking about prayer, I believe in prayer, but I also believe in work. As to trying to explain God, that's not my job. Well, people forget Satan got a kingdom too. Like these people are submitting their will to God. They're submitting their will to the devil. Satan has a kingdom, there's that role to play in it, but here's the reality. If my grandmama's
Starting point is 00:38:52 up on the roof, I don't have time to discern whether this is God or the devil. I want to get her off of the roof. Damn right. You understand what I'm saying? Just straightforward and simple. Yet, I believe in prayer. I believe in the power of prayer. But if I'm hanging on the roof, I appreciate your prayer, but would you hand me a rope? You know, I'm just being real, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:15 pray while you throw me the rope. Okay. I'm a very practical guy. I want you to pray, but I want you to throw a brother a rope and a good heavy rope because I'm a pretty big guy. Okay. So that my motto and my frame set in ministry is we pray with one hand, we work with the other. We have an organization called MegaCare that has been renowned around the world for its ability to be first responders in times of crisis. So just because you see a logo that says pray doesn't mean that there's not activity going on. Sometimes that activity is going on without anything being said, and other times we're very public about it. But again, faith without works is dead. And Saul, you got some lines I love.
Starting point is 00:39:53 You say you have to look ahead to your ultimate destination with one eye and keep the other focused on your next step. And remember that graduation is rooted in the word gradual. Can you explain that a little? You know, the thing that gets me about that is there's so many people have respect for the future and no respect for the present. They've got their eye on the prize, but they don't have their eyes on the next step. If you don't honor the next step, you won't make it to the prize. And this is important for people to understand.
Starting point is 00:40:17 They are so excited about where they're going that they don't have respect for where they are. If you don't have respect for where you are, you don't get to where you're going. And that's something we don't tell people about. We tell them you don you are, you don't get to where you're going. Right. And that's something we don't tell people about. We tell them, you don't believe in your dream. Envision where you're going. Get around people
Starting point is 00:40:31 who are doing what you're doing. All that's good, but only with one eye. Because if you don't respect where you are, you won't live to play on the field of where you want to go.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Now, there's people who are going to read SOAR and they're going to be like, oh, I want to be an entrepreneur. How, you know, I'm going to quit my job. How do you know when to, well, I want to be an entrepreneur. I want to quit my job. How do you know when to leave a certain job that doesn't fulfill you and head in the direction that God maybe wants you in?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Common sense goes a long ways in the process of understanding the material that you're exposed to. There are people who leap off a job and land on a career and it explodes. But more times than not, it's a gradual process. You know, if you're out there in the ocean, you're holding on to a raft and I reach out my hand to get you, you're not going to grab my hand all at once. You're going to grab my hand gradually as you let go of the raft because you can't afford to let go of both things at the same time. And that's the same thing true with most people in a job. There are some rare cases that you have enough funding behind you,
Starting point is 00:41:24 you've built enough team behind you that you can walk straight away into your dream but never step off of something that's substantive for nothing but hope. That's what I tell these kids, too. In the pursuit of your dreams, deal with your reality, man. Absolutely. It's critical. And the reason that I think it's important,
Starting point is 00:41:42 we as a people can't lose another fight. We cannot lose another fight. We cannot afford to be fighting with each other, castigating, destroying each other. We have so many enemies coming against us like I have not seen since I was a child.
Starting point is 00:42:00 This community has to learn how to rally. We have to learn how to rally. We have to learn how to rally. We have to get away from destroying each other and being cannibals eating each other because we already got people hunting us. And if we don't use all of our information to come together, everything you know and everything I know
Starting point is 00:42:19 and everything Sean Combs knows and everything LL Cool J knows and everything President Obama knows, we need everybody. Because if we don't, we're not going to survive. That's a great point you bring up. I often wonder what role does the church play in this current climate that we're in right now?
Starting point is 00:42:36 The church plays and can play a tremendous role, but when you say the church is like saying hip-hop, it's not all monolithic. It's not all the same. There is no headquarters that controls
Starting point is 00:42:51 the church. So where do we send the letter to the church? The church is made of the people. So we are the church, and the church is us. And you have to understand that. And the church has a unique role.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Many of them are playing it in different ways. In the civil rights movement, the church was the press. It was where we disseminated information. It was where we let people know where the march was going to be. It was where you galvanized support. You put your little nickels in. We fought together. It was the first schools we had when we weren't allowed in public school and we weren't taught how to read.
Starting point is 00:43:28 So the church has to be ambidextrous enough to morph into what the times need. We don't necessarily need to be a school right now. We don't necessarily need to be the press right now. We don't necessarily need to do what we did in the 60s. We got congressmen and senators and legislation and things we didn't have back then, but we still have a significant role to be. And that role depends on whether the church is in South Chicago or Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:43:55 They're not the same thing. It depends on who the congregation is. The church should meet the needs first of its parishioners. You have a responsibility to make sure the people who gave the money got something back. You cannot reach to the community and not take care of the people who gave the resources because you're accountable to those people. Once you have taken care of their needs, their facilities, their funerals, their weddings, their emergencies, their crises, being there, their buildings big enough to handle them,
Starting point is 00:44:26 then you reach to the community. I think that one of the greatest things that the church can be right now is a voice for those who cannot be heard, to use our platform to speak out when there's time to speak to an issue. Whether speaking out is in a march or it's in an op-ed letter like I recently wrote, or whether it's going to Washington or speaking in Washington I think that's a tremendous role to play all right keep it locked we have more with Bishop T.D. Jakes I know usually most people have to leave by now but we're getting a good word this morning so keep it locked more with Bishop T.D. Jakes it's the Breakfast Club good morning the Breakfast Club we are the Breakfast Club we have are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:45:07 We have Bishop T.D. Jakes in the building. Now, recently, you know, Jerry Jones said that none of his players will kneel for the National Anthem. That's not something he has to work with, and I'm sure a bunch of cowboys probably go to your church. What do you think about that? I would have to sit down with Jerry and talk to him about the parts of this that you don't see to understand why he made that move which was a ricochet move from where he started from. He was with the players. Then he kind
Starting point is 00:45:32 of switched in his perspective. If I were going to investigate it apart from talking to him I would follow the money because it's always got something to do with the choices. From a moral perspective I would prefer that he support the players in their decision. And I think it is far more constitutional to allow me to express myself.
Starting point is 00:45:58 You didn't hire me to salute or not salute the flag. You hired me to play the game. And as long as I play the game, I think I'm living up salute the flag. You hired me to play the game. And as long as I play the game, I think I'm living up to the contract. For us to allow sports to become embargoed by politics, I think is detrimental to both issues. Because what we are really dealing with
Starting point is 00:46:21 is far more important than touchdowns and passes and games and tickets. Well, tell the president that, because he's the one tweeting about the NFL, his damn self, too, and ESPN and Jamel Hill and all that stuff. I am worried about North Korea. I am worried about job opportunities.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I am worried about equal access to health care. Can I ask a simple question? Is Donald Trump the Antichrist? Bishop? You would have more insight than us. I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Over the years, not just with the Trump administration, back to the Obama administration, all the way back to the Clinton administration, there's been a deterioration of the office and the respect for the office. And I think that office and the respect for the office. And I think that when we lose respect for the office, we think anybody can do it. And then when we think anybody can do it, we elect anybody to have it.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It used to be that it meant something to be the president of the United States. It meant something. But the dumbing down of America has been gradual but continual, and we are paying a price for that. It's safe to say you're not a Trump supporter. No, I'm not. But the greater issue is this. He is now our president. If being a Trump supporter means
Starting point is 00:47:43 did I vote for him, I did not. But he is our president. And being a Trump supporter means did I vote for him, I did not. But he is our president. And no matter what you think about him, he's got his hands on the switch. He's got his hands on your grandmama's health care. He's got his hands on your kids' education. And we got to work with who's there. And we got to find a way to make this work. Because four years is a long time to just be mad.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I guess my final question is, you know, you look around at the climate of the world and you see the natural disasters and everything that's going on. Do you think we're in our last days? Because everybody likes to say, look at the book of Revelations. We're living through it right now. I'm not sure. It certainly has some similarities. I laughed, but because not over what what you said I laughed over what I thought
Starting point is 00:48:28 when you said do you think we're in our last days I thought I think I'm in mine so you gotta figure yours out for yourself I laughed in my own head but whether we're in our last days collectively or
Starting point is 00:48:44 individually that's scary But whether we're in our last days collectively or individually. We're headed to World War III. That's scary. And that's possible. Rumors of war. I don't think you understand. 9-11 was horrible. I mean, it touched every human being that had any sense.
Starting point is 00:49:02 But 9-11 is a walk in the park compared to what a nuclear bomb would be on in this country. And I'm telling you right now, you have never, this country has never seen the devastation of one bomb that got through nuclear attack on this country is going to change everything. Irreparable damage. Irreparable damage. Irreparable damage. What we're talking about in a flippant way is so serious.
Starting point is 00:49:33 The meshing of these different machines between politics and television and social media have created a mushrooming of some distorted, mutated thing. Donald Trump is the executive producer of America right now. If we don't redignify the office and understand what's at stake, that this is not about ratings for Fox or CNN, but if these bombs start dropping, nobody's going to be able to bury them as fast as they're going to fall. And we don't know whose bodies they're going to be able to bury them as fast as they're going to fall. And we don't know whose bodies they're going to be.
Starting point is 00:50:07 So this is a serious office. This is a time that we really need to be having relationships with each other. This is a time that we need to have relationships with our elected officials, no matter who they are. Because one wrong move in the underbed rustling that I'm seeing globally, the world that we know it could not be, the country that we know could not be, that's pretty serious for me. I have grandkids. I kind of like to grow up and live and laugh and see things that are important.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I thought you were about to say, I got grandkids I kind of like. That's true, too, sometimes. It depends on what I stepped on in the middle of the night when I'm trying to get to the bathroom. That's true, too. But the reality, do you hear what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yes, sir. And I don't want to leave on a sour note, but I am telling you, the things we fight about, and you're talking about this and that and the Democrats and Republicans and Trump and Trump's in, Trump's out, no bombs in, no bombs out. What you think the church ought to do.
Starting point is 00:51:09 What we think Black Lives Matter ought to do. All of those are luxury items to debate because we have not been bombed. If we are bombed, you won't care who's political party, who's the pastor,
Starting point is 00:51:25 or whatever you think about that. Those are first world problems. We get bombed, we're going to have third world problems. That's what I'm trying to say to you. And we're not that far from it. So whether it is eschatology, the theological understanding of the end of the world, or the end of the world as we know it because of evil men. I don't know, but I do know that
Starting point is 00:51:49 what is being discussed is something that all of us need to be paying attention to at all ages and stages. Because if you value life at all, if none but your own, we should be paying close attention. Can we leave with a prayer? Gotta leave with a prayer.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Gotta leave with a prayer. Gotta leave with a prayer. Lord, I thank you for the privilege of being in this place, in this moment, with these people at this time. This is a gift from you. For whatever reason, you allowed my voice to be
Starting point is 00:52:20 heard through this vehicle. And I pray for every person listening, every person in this room And I pray for every person listening, every person in this room. I pray for our country. I pray for our president. I pray for our nation. I pray for the nations of the world.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I don't just want America to do well. I want the world to do well. Because when the world does well and when there is no injustice and when there is no poverty and no wickedness and debauchery, then people can walk the streets of Vegas and
Starting point is 00:52:49 be safe and then people can move about their lives and be free. I pray for those that mourn. I pray for all of those kids whose daddies didn't come home. Daddy and mama went away to Vegas and didn't come back. I pray for families who are clutching the scarves of their daughters who will didn't come back. I pray for families who are clutching
Starting point is 00:53:05 the scarves of their daughters who will never come back again. I pray for all of the chaos in Puerto Rico and all of the families who are still displaced in Houston and all throughout the lower parts of Texas and all throughout Florida and all of the tragedies all over the world. We need your grace, your love, your peace, your power. And above all, because we are flawed and human and vulnerable and sometimes wicked, we need your mercy. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Bishop T.D. Jakes, y'all. There you have it, Bishop T.D. Jakes. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning. Charlemagne, say the gang donkey under the shade. Charlemagne. You are a donkey.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of the day, but I got the donkey of the day. So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey, man, hit me with the e-ball. Yes, the Breakfast club, bitches. Who's donkey of the day today? Donkey of the day goes to John Robert Hill. Guess where John Robert Hill is from, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Where does your Uncle Charla tell you that all the craziest people in America exist? South Carolina. Man, shut up. The Bronx and all of Florida. Okay? And John Robert Hill is from South Florida. Now, you may know John Robert Hill by his IG name, Bunk IG. All right?
Starting point is 00:54:32 He's 20 years old, and you may have seen him doing social media stunts like walking into fast food restaurants and helping himself. I've seen him walk into a gas station and take all the soda. I've seen him walk into Little Caesars and just take a pizza. I've seen him walk into Subway and take all the soda. I've seen him walk into Little Caesars and just take a pizza. I've seen him walk into Subway and take all the cookies. I've seen him get tattoos at places and then run out on the tattoo artist. I've seen him try on watches and run out on the jeweler. I've seen him crash a funeral, okay, or a church service or something. I don't know what it was. I've seen him smoke a blunt in the library, and I honestly thought a lot of this was fake, okay, staged. Just another clown who didn't get enough attention from his parents,
Starting point is 00:55:06 so he tries to supplement it with attention from social media. Well, it turns out it wasn't fake because John Robert Hill was arrested and charged with burglary and petty theft after he jumped the counter at a Dunkin' Donuts into an employee area and grabbed $38 worth of donuts. Now, he's done this a couple times. Let's hear it. I'm a f***ing savage, remember that. I want you with donuts
Starting point is 00:55:28 I like first. I take the record. I'm a f***ing savage. They didn't even know I was coming. I just take the whole donut. He actually got arrested for that. He went back to Dunkin' Donuts and did it again. Let's listen. They banned me from f***ing Dunkin' Donuts,
Starting point is 00:55:43 but I don't give a f***, you know what I'm saying? I'm not a mother f***ing gang, you know what I'm saying? You ready? Don't worry about me, bro. Oh, alright. Why y'all let it? Download French Montana Jungle Rules, you know what I'm saying? Thanks for the donuts. You can't ban me from no f***ing where,
Starting point is 00:55:59 you know what I'm saying? Did he say download French Montana Jungle Rules? Yeah. Now, this guy was already banned from Dunkin' Donuts, alright? He was arrested for stealing from Dunkin' Donuts, but he decided to go back and still steal the donuts. Again. So he is making a conscious decision to go to jail for likes and RTs. Young people, listen, man. Young guys like this confuse the hell out of me because when I was 20, it was all about the money, all right? Cash rules everything around me.
Starting point is 00:56:21 When I was growing up, it was about less attention, more cash. And the whole point of doing a crime was to not get caught. Nowadays, these dudes get on social media and shine a big-ass bat signal in the sky to alert the authorities to the BS they're doing. Now, he got charged with stealing from Dunkin' Donuts. Let's hear him in court. Good morning, Mr. Hill. You're arrested for burglary to an occupied structure and petty theft.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I will appoint the public defender's office for you. How long have you lived here for? Since August. Since August. Are you in school? No, I'm not in school. What do you do all day? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I just kind of stopped, took a break on my last job. I was working downtown Miami and at the airport. Oh, he jumped the counter, the Dunkin' Donuts, to the employee-only area. I guess that's the burglary. And he stole an entire tray of donuts for $38. And then gave them back. The employee asked for them, and then apparently he gave them back.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And the entire time, the co-defendant's filming it. So it sounds like this is one of those, like, do it for the vine, exactly, internet type of, like, funny things. Not that funny, not that smart, but ultimately he did give it back to you. He has stayed at the Dunkin' Donuts at 18801 Northwest 2nd Avenue in Miami Gardens. Tap alternate bond. Count one is $1,000 and count two will be $500. All right, let's break this down. John Robert Hill, Boone Gang, whatever you call them, was referred to a court program
Starting point is 00:57:41 with an alternate bond of $1,500 in the Duncan Donuts case. He pled not guilty and was sentenced to 60 days of probation. And I'm telling you right now, that's not enough. I would like to see authorities go to every video he's ever posted on his Instagram where he has committed a crime from smoking weed in the library to stealing from Little Caesars and running out on tattoos. I would like for the police to go back, watch all those videos, and charge him for every single crime.
Starting point is 00:58:05 All right, this little slap on the wrist this boy got not going to help him change his life. He lives for the attention, so he's probably just eating it up. And more importantly, other kids won't learn from his mistakes because they're like, oh, that's all he got? Some of these digital D-heads, the retweets and likes from social media far outweigh the consequences of these crimes, especially when it's just 60 days probation
Starting point is 00:58:24 and a court-ordered program he has to attend, okay? Sometimes someone must die in order for others to live, all right? Sometimes literally they have to die, sometimes figuratively. And John Robert Hill needs to die figuratively, okay? He needs to get the book thrown at him. Law enforcement needs to make an example out of him so these kids can learn that this is not the way, all right? The judge asked a very important question to this young man can you play that little question she asked are you in school
Starting point is 00:58:48 no i'm not in school what do you do all day the answer is nothing all right and that's the problem these kids have nothing to do i don't mind is the devil's playground instead of boon gang it should be book gang read a book don't just go to the library and smoke weed go to the library and actually read something in there go Go learn a trade or something. Make yourself smarter. Stop looking for love from social media and start loving yourself. Please give John Robert Hill, a.k.a. Bunk Gang, the biggest hee-haw. I'm telling you what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:59:18 If they don't throw the book at him and, you know, make him change his ways that way, somebody's going to shoot that little boy. All right. I'm waiting on him to get shot. And I hope they do it live on IG. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:59:39 It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask Yee, 805-85-1051. If you got a question for Yee, you can call her at any time. Hello, who's this? Hello.
Starting point is 00:59:52 What's going on? My name's Mark. Mark, what's your question for Yee, bro? Yes, Mark, talk to me. Okay, listen. All right, so it's a relationship question that's at the third. I just want to know, all right,
Starting point is 01:00:00 when I was 20 years old, I was dating a girl who I met at the club who I thought was 18, a step and a third. She was 16. We had a child together. Her mom lied. She had fake IDs. It wasn't, you know what I mean? It wasn't like I was dropping off at the school, a step and a third, but I got charged with sexual assault. I got locked up for two years. Who charged? Wait, so how did you end up getting charged at all? Like who?
Starting point is 01:00:22 Well, because when her brother came home, I decided not to be with her anymore. So I left her. And she wasn't having that, so she called the police. And she lied. She made a whole rape story up. They dropped the rape s***. The actual rape charge.
Starting point is 01:00:36 But since she was underage and I had a child with her, that's how I got charged. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, for real. But you know what? I ain't even gonna lie to you. This ain't her first time. She did it to, like, three or four other guys. One guy's. Yeah, for real. But you know what? I ain't even gonna lie to you. This ain't her first time. She did it to like three or four other guys.
Starting point is 01:00:47 One guy's doing 10 years for her. That's crazy. That's crazy. Y'all need some better lawyers or something, but go ahead. But now, you know, I'm with my present girl now. You know, we chilling. We just sat in the third. I want to tell her, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:03 You better tell her just like you told us. That sounds crazy. I ain't going to lie, bro. No, I mean, listen, you have to tell her something like that. First of all, the girl was 16. You were 20. Y'all have a child together. She knows you have a child, right?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah. Now, does she know you don't get along with the mother? Yeah, yeah. But she doesn't know why. Well, you better go on ahead and tell her. I don't think that's any reason. If somebody told me that and explained to me what happened, I didn't know her age. Da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 01:01:30 She had me arrested. And I don't think it would make me not want to be with them. But what would make me not want to be with you is that you knew and didn't tell me. This is the twist. Oh, boy. Now. She's 16? Is she?
Starting point is 01:01:44 No, no, no, no. Hell no. The girl that I'm with, she's, like, very, like, opinionated. Great. That's great. We had a conversation one time. She was very opinionated about people with sex charges. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Well, listen, this is a little bit different. It's not like you really sexually assaulted someone. She had a relationship with you that was consensual. She lied to you about her age. She got upset that you left her and she had you sent to jail.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Whose fault is that? I mean, of course it's hers, but I was just nervous. I mean, I'll do it. I'll do it. You have to tell her. I would be more mad that you didn't tell me this if I was her than what actually happened.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So got to tell. Yeah, good luck, bro. Let us know how that conversation goes. Ask Yee. 800-585-1051. If you got a question for Yee, you can call her right now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Ask C&E. You got a question? You need some advice? 800-585-1051, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Ask C&E. You got a question, you need some advice, 800-585-1040. Call your uncle, Charlam, and your cousin, Envy, and see what's happening. Hey, what's your name, mama? Nicole.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Nicole, what's your problem? So, I'm living with my parents, and I'm living with my man, right? How old are you? So, I'm 26. 26, you live with your parents and your man. Yeah. But the situation is that I pay the bills in the house, right? That's what everybody who lives with their parents says.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I'm serious. Go ahead. Damn. All right. So I've been with my man for like seven years, and now he moved out out of nowhere. That's not out of nowhere. You don't want to live with your parents no more. I congratulate him for being a grown-ass man who don't want to live with somebody's parents.
Starting point is 01:03:23 But what you mean I pay all the bills? Girl, you need to get your you mean I pay all the bills? Girl, you need to get your own apartment and pay your own bills. Why did he say he left? He didn't even say it because he said he's tired of this s***. Duh, he lives with your parents. Yeah, he can't knock you off like he wants to because you can't scream. He doesn't want to live with your parents, mama.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I want to feel like a man. I can't feel like a man living with your parents and you paying all the bills. But what is my family going to do? What do you mean? What is your family going to do? Why don't y'all both move out and get your own place? But I'm the one that supports my family.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Lord have mercy. You Mexican? What are you? You Spanish, right? You're racist. Why am I racist? She's Latino. You Spanish, right?
Starting point is 01:03:57 Why is always a Mexican thing? But you Latino, right? Yes. All right, listen, man. It comes a point in time where Latino families got to stop depending on one paycheck, all right? That's just all the ball's down to. Oh, hell no. That's all the ball's down to, man. It comes a point in time where Latino families gotta stop depending on one paycheck, alright? That's just all the
Starting point is 01:04:05 ball's down to. Oh, hell no. That's all the ball's down to, man. Try to get into an apartment with him and, I mean, he just doesn't want to be under your parents. You can't be mad at that man for wanting to be a man? I don't want to live with your parents while you're paying all the bills. Hello, who's this? Hey, what's up? This is Shay. Hey, Shay. What's your question, mama?
Starting point is 01:04:21 So, my question is, I'm not your boyfriend, though. No, you're not. So, if your man, right, he wants you question, mama? So my question is, I'm not your boyfriend, though. No, you're not. So if your man, right, he wants you to caress his nipples, like, you don't mind that, but you don't really like that going on extra with his s*** because I feel like I'm treating him like a b**** or something, you know? If that man want his nipples caressed, caress his nipples. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:04:39 Ain't nothing wrong with a little caressing of nipples, and you should lick it, too. I don't. But do we have to go all in with it? Listen, when you want your butt eaten, does he complain? Does he eat the butt?
Starting point is 01:04:48 All right, you right. All right. What's wrong with you, girl? And you might want to try eating his butt. You might like that too. No, no, we learning though. How old are you?
Starting point is 01:04:55 I'm 27. Oh, come on now. Y'all way past the stage of learning now. Y'all should be grown. Caress that man nipples. Hey, it's just something new to learn every day now.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Come on. You are right, but you should lick his nipples, caress his nipples, and lick his butt. I wish a woman would complain about me wanting my nipples caressed when I'm eating her butt. I would, too. Hello, who's this? Yo, this Lick out of Florida. Man, turn your radio down, man.
Starting point is 01:05:16 What's your question for Charlotte and E or C and E? So, my girl has a man best friend, but I don't know how I feel about that. Is he gay? No. All right, then. Is he gay? No. All right, then. He's trying to hit. Now, you should shut that down. You should shut that down immediately.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Unless all y'all friends are all of y'all friends? I mean, we all went to school together. I ain't ask you that. I said all of y'all friends. Do y'all hang out? Do y'all kick it? Huh? Hello?
Starting point is 01:05:39 He hung up. Oh, he went to go get his gun. Damn, I ain't wanted to go that far. Well, he's definitely hating on him on the low, so you should definitely get rid of that situation. Unless he's gay, no, you can't have any male friends. There's no such thing. Listen, when you got friends that are opposite sex,
Starting point is 01:05:53 all of y'all got to be friends. All my close female friends, my wife is close with, dude, they all cool together. Right. All right? That's the way it works. Hello, who's this? Good morning.
Starting point is 01:06:03 This is Demarie. Hi, Charlamagne. Hi, DJ MZ. Good morning. What's your question, mama? works hello who's this good morning this is d marie hi charlamagne hi dj md good morning what's your question mama so basically i know everyone does music everybody in a great aunt uh-huh get a job i do have a job get a job are you a rapper um i do everything like okay get a job no let her explain go ahead mama how old are you come onlamagne. I love you for that, for being yourself. But, you know, my question is just, like, how do I market myself? Like, I understand everybody out there does it.
Starting point is 01:06:32 How old are you, first of all? I'm 21. Oh, she got a little time. I think you should get a job, and you should pass out mixtapes at your job. I do. I have a job. I'm a college student, so definitely being on campus helps. What's your major?
Starting point is 01:06:46 It's human services. I graduate in May, and I'm transferring to do my bachelor's in social work. So I'm doing things to make sure if certain things don't work out, you know what I mean, I can fall back on human services. Do you rap or sing, Mama? I do both. Well, let me hear something right fast. Hear something right now?
Starting point is 01:07:03 Okay. So they want me to keep it PG. They want me to keep it PC. Politically correct. They probably want to try to control it. Okay, okay, okay. About this plan A, right? About this plan A.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You're in school. You should let plan A go. All right. You're in school. You got a job. No, keep plan A. Don't worry about plan B. See, this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Now, plan A was a rap career. No, plan A is not your rap career, is it? No, it isn't. Okay, good. So about this plan A. Listen, stick to your plan A. Yeah, stick is the thing. Now, plan A was a rap career. No, plan A is not your rap career, is it? No, it isn't. Okay, good. So about this plan A. Listen, stick to your plan A. Yeah, stick to plan A. Your plan B is not going to really work out.
Starting point is 01:07:30 It's good that you're in school. It's good that you have a job. Now, you can do all of that rap stuff as a hobby, maybe. Hobby, yes. You know what I'm saying? Because in the pursuit of your dreams, you have to deal with your reality. You're dealing with your reality by going to school. There you go.
Starting point is 01:07:43 And, you know, you'll eventually have a job. But, you know, if I was you, I wouldn't focus on that plan B unless it's a pill that you pop because somebody s*** in you at school one day. There you go. Have a blessed day. I think he was pretty honest with him. Alright, we are doing ASCII and we have Odario on the line.
Starting point is 01:08:00 What's up, Odario? Good morning. How you doing? Good morning. How are you? I had a question for you. Okay. So I've been dating this NFL player since high school. Okay. Before I even got to the NFL. And we went to college together and everything. But then I had to leave to go to Harvard because I got accepted to Harvard.
Starting point is 01:08:15 So I graduated from Harvard Law School and then I came back. So we was together all this time because we would go back and forth or whatever, right? It's been how long? So for like 12, 13 years. You've been how long? So like 12, 13 years. You've been dating this NFL player for 12 or 13 years. Okay. Yeah. So I got a job offer in Washington last year to work at the prosecutor's office out there.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And he made me turn the offer down because he was like, okay, so we got engaged. So basically we got engaged. I'll say that. So a few weeks ago. I'm sorry. He took a knee. Never mind. Bad joke.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Go ahead. So a couple weeks ago, I went over to Rob's house to get his clothes taken clean, like I always do. And this girl was in the house. Uh-oh. I paid no attention because we always say that, you know, we best friends. We never put out.
Starting point is 01:09:04 So he wasn't openly gay. He wasn't out. Basically, no. Still not out today. I would never, you know, put him on blast like that. Right. He takes two knees, but he doesn't want anyone to know. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:13 So I said, that's cool. So I go over here and then she tell me that, you know, they just got engaged. What? And that he is pregnant. Yeah, and she pregnant. Well, he's playing both sides of the ball. He's playing offense and defense. So he's engaged to you and he's engaged to pregnant. Yeah, and she's pregnant. Well, he's playing both sides of the ball. He's playing offense and defense. So he's engaged to you, and he's engaged to her.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yeah, so I said, you know, I'm nosy. So I'm like, so how long, you know, you've been engaged? And she said, it's been like five months. I said, five months, huh? So I called him up because he had the role for this game at our channel. So I said, I called him up. I was like, come over to my house when you get home. So he came over like 2 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 01:09:47 So I said, is there something that you need to tell me or whatever may have you? And he was like, no. So of course I lost my temper. I'm like, well, I met, I'm not going to say her name. I'll just call her Kelly. I met Kelly over your house a couple of weeks ago, and she told me that you got engaged
Starting point is 01:10:05 and she's pregnant. So then he decided he wanted to tell the truth. Now, he said he loves me, but since she's pregnant, he has to marry her. So this whole time he's been cheating on you and having sex with this woman. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:18 So I got another job offer out of state in New York, actually, at a prosecuting office. Okay. And I accepted the job. Get it, Odaria. That's what I'm talking about. So this is where it gets kind of tricky, right?
Starting point is 01:10:30 Mm-hmm. So a few days ago, he came over with this bad attitude, and I will say, yeah, he grained by myself and picked me up against the wall because I'm not really good. Wow, domestic violence. Does he play for the Giants and Jets? I can't say.
Starting point is 01:10:43 I won't say. What I will say is that, you know, he bought this house, granted, which I don't really need to because I work and I make my own money. So I call, like, the movers or whatever may have you, and I got all my stuff up out of there. As you should because he put his hands on you. Exactly. So he found and tracked me down at my mother's house, right?
Starting point is 01:11:04 And then he's sitting here begging and pleading, telling me not to leave and not to go because we're going to get married. And I don't believe nothing he's saying. He's getting married to somebody else. How's he going to marry you? Exactly. So what should I do? Should I just leave here? Because I'm seeing it now.
Starting point is 01:11:19 As smart as you are, you went to Harvard. This man lied to you all this time, lied to this woman. He's having a baby with someone, and he put his hands on you. People from Harvard get turned out by the D2. And you don't know what to do? It's just... Oh, Dario, come on. I know.
Starting point is 01:11:34 This man don't know what position you want to play on the field. I know you know what to do. You cannot tolerate that. You are way too... First of all, he's not even openly gay. Yeah. He's not even letting people know about your relationship. It's been 13 years.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Will you tell me who he is off the air? No, I can't tell you because I would never put him out like that because it's not right. It's not my place. Well, it looks like he has no intention. And you're openly gay, right? No, I'm not. Oh, you're not. So neither one of you are.
Starting point is 01:12:00 No. Well, how do you guys intend to get married at all? That's what I said. And he told me, he was like, well, you know, it's legal now. We've been together since high school. We should go ahead and do it. I don't want you to marry somebody that choked you, threw you up against the wall by your throat and lied to you when he's having a baby with somebody else.
Starting point is 01:12:18 That's what I said, too. I mean, it was the first time it happened. But you need to figure out what you need to do because it seems like maybe you haven't come out the closet because he hasn't. Yeah. Don't live your life according to what this man is doing. Live your life for you. So I guess I'm moving to New York then. We'll see you in New York. Are you moving in
Starting point is 01:12:36 to New York to be closer to him because this is where he plays? No, he's leaving. No, you're leaving New York. You're leaving New York. Well, I will say this. He plays for the Lions. I will say that. But that's all I'll say. Okay, shout coming to New York. You're leaving New York. Well, I will say this. He plays for the Lions. I will say that. But that's all I'll say. Okay, shout out to the D.
Starting point is 01:12:47 The Lions. Yeah, been lying about a whole bunch of stuff, too. All right, well, Dario, hit us up when you come out here. We're going to party. We're going to party? Mm-hmm. I'll get you to party. Okay, I appreciate you so much, Ashley.
Starting point is 01:12:58 You guys, y'all have a great day. Thank you so much. I didn't clear my mind. All right, man, I'm glad to hear that. You're going to clear your butthole. Have a blessed day, sir. Sometimes it's hard, even as smart as you are, to make the right decision. When you're in love, you too. All right, I'm glad to hear that. You're going to clear your butthole. Have a blessed day, sir. Sometimes it's hard, even as smart as you are, to make the right decision. When you're in love, you get clouded.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Yeah, you do, unfortunately. All right, I appreciate you. Thank you, Miss E. Have a blessed day. You guys too. The Breakfast Club. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own?
Starting point is 01:13:21 I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly
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Starting point is 01:13:47 Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets.
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