The Breakfast Club - Conversations with Unc: Success Beyond The Fame with LARussell

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

The Black Effect Presents... Conversations with Unc! Bay Area rapper and founder of Good Company, LARussell chop it up with Lil Duval  to discuss keeping a balanced mindset, understanding the gam...e of life, the importance of being genuine in the entertainment industry, the power of social media and the challenges of cancel culture, the importance of staying true to oneself and doing what you love ands much more. Rate, subscribe, comment and share. Follow Conversations With Unc on IG @LilDuval @LARussellSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 People, my people, what's up? This is Quetzalove. Man, I cannot believe we're already wrapping up another season of Quetzalove Supreme. Man, we've got some amazing guests lined up to close out the season, but I don't want any of you guys to miss all the incredible conversations we've had so far. I mean, we talked to A. Marie, Johnny Marr, E, Jonathan Scheer, Billy Porter, and so many more. Look, if you haven't heard these episodes yet, hey, now's your chance. You got to check them out. Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's John also known as Dr. John Paul. And I'm Jordan or Joe Ho. And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:55 A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh, chat. This year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross and more. year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Fam podcast on the iHeart Radio app, have a podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Oh, I know that's right.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Hi, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of our podcast, Ruthie's Table Four. There are many luxuries in life, but I have to say that going to see Ian McKellen was one of the great days of my life. It's a joke that actors in the old days of not being paid enough money or getting enough to eat would say, oh, we're doing Chekhov. There's a practical pork pie in the third act. Free, free food. Listen to Ruthie's Table Four on iHeart, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:01:48 and wherever you listen to your podcasts. See you there. Hey y'all, Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Flash slam, another one gone. Bash bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. A tip but a cap, cause another one gone. Each episode is about a different, inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15 year old girl in Alabama who refused to give up
Starting point is 00:02:26 her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was Claudette Colvin. Get the kids in your life excited about history
Starting point is 00:02:43 by tuning in to Historical Records because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm La Duval and this is Conversations with Unk, the podcast. Today's guest is a West Coast rapper and founder of Good Company, an organization that helps promote the rising Bay Area artist. Let's welcome my guy, La Russell.
Starting point is 00:03:12 What's up? This is Live and Direct. It's your boy La Duval, your country cousin, you know, vibe in D.C. Y'all back here with Unp, you know, we got a special guest, just like every time we on this bitch. But this nigga here, just like one of the young Young young og-minded niggas that I fuck with from a distance. I never got a chance to get them Get to get to meet now. I finally get to meet him on this shit. So let me introduce y'all to my man
Starting point is 00:03:38 Lou russell, what's up, nigga? Come on, man gratitude. That was a great intro nigga as you were saying and i'm like I wish my mama did this interview with me. I should've went to your damn house. For real, nigga? How old are you, man? Would've been excited. I'm 29.
Starting point is 00:03:56 29? Hey, man, me and Shailamay talk about you all the time, man, cause like, some young motherfuckers, I be like, I see see how I be like, I, they might need a little help with certain shit, but with you, I'm like, man, he got it. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, I ain't talking about as far as
Starting point is 00:04:17 you already made it, but I'm saying like the mindset and the understanding, you already got the understanding of everything, so it's like, even when it was doing, even people when they was like a man. Let's get him on the shelves like he don't really need much for me But maybe a life shit, but as far as understanding the game you got it nigga. Oh You know what's dope about that? I'm finally at an age now where I see certain young niggas and I'm either like he got it or I'm like, mmm nigga serve young niggas and I'm either like, he got it or I'm like, nigga can use the mail, you feel me? So that's how it is. For real. It's like, it's for real. Cause like, it's like certain kids,
Starting point is 00:04:53 like when you have kids, I don't know if you got it or not, but when you have kids, you will start looking at some kids, you be like, Oh no, I ain't got to worry about him. He gonna be all right. But then you see that one kid, he be like, nah, man, I gotta get that, get his bail money ready, cause he gonna be wild, you see what I'm saying? So, for some people, you just ain't gotta, you ain't gotta worry about some with you.
Starting point is 00:05:12 We just be like, man, this nigga, this nigga here good, man. So tell them about you, man, for the people, for my heartache that don't know, you know, cause you know, I'm, I'm an old hand, you know what I'm saying, which I like being, you know what I'm saying? But introduce yourself and let them know a little about you, Mike, for those that don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:28 First of all, I run a collective called Good Company. I rap. I hate having to say all these things. I know what you're saying, man, cause you like, you're a homie, dad, like it's hard to, I ain't gonna be back to me, so what you did, man, I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Right, a lot of shit, a lot of shit. I'm a lot of things and I do a lot of shit. That's the best. Let me ask you this, let me ask you this. So, cause it seems like you got to understand, like I said, when did you figure out like, all right, I got it. I think I understand how to, I ain't saying you got the,
Starting point is 00:06:05 you know the game, but you got understanding enough to understand how to move at the situation you're at now. It's really came in increments throughout. Like every time, every time early, I thought I had it, I learned some shit later and be like, man, I don't know what the fuck I was talking about. You feel me? So it's really, it's a growing thing. I don't know what the fuck I was talking about you feel me So it's really is a growing thing I've had more I have a moment every day where I feel that but I feel like the
Starting point is 00:06:33 Insurgence was like I Started working for like UPS. Um after I graduated high school You know, that's a good job I graduated high school. You know that's a good job nigga. That's a good job. Nah nigga, I was a driver helper throughout the winter for the season. It was like, it was a cool job though.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Nigga was, you know nigga. But I learned a lot from that job. I learned how different my capacity and work ethic was. Like nigga, I used to grab packages and run to the houses and drop them bitches off and hop back in the truck. I used to grab packages and run to the houses and drop them bitches off and hop back in the truck. I used to go in the back and it was just a lot of shit that I was doing that was improving the workflow that I was noticing early.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Was you rapping at that time too or was rap even a thing? I was like rapping subsequently though. Not trying to make it just as a hobby. Just as a hobby. Yeah. Like this hobby behind me, I build Lego. These are all my little Lego's I be building and shit. That's my hobby. Oh, Sal, nigga Duval built Lego.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Man, one of my best friends, he got, we got some Lego figures around the crib. Oh, nigga, don't make me show, I got acts of whatever he think, I got anything he think he got, I bet you I got it. That's my, hilarious. I got all this shit, man, I love this shit, man. But yeah, finish what you were saying about my fault. I'm high too, so, it'll go here and come away.
Starting point is 00:08:01 That's perfect, that's a perfect combination, nigga. Combination. No, but when I was doing that shit, every driver that I had worked with took a liking to me and they was like, I'm gonna hit you when I do my route. When I'm a make sure they give me you, you feel me? So I started noticing that shit early and as I advance throughout my journey doing jobs,
Starting point is 00:08:25 whatever position I came in as was never what I left as. And it was happening fast. So I just knew like the work, I knew I understood that part of my journey then. You felt like I was- You understood that you had a personality that people was drawn to. You know what's crazy?
Starting point is 00:08:44 I didn't even think it was my personality then. I thought it was the fact I was working hard but it was really... Hell no nigga, it was your personality. That's hella funny. That could have been it. That's all it is with you. That's why people like us like in general like why people like me is I mean the talent is is a is a bonus but is they see they self in you or they are they see a family member in you you know I'm saying it's like right that's what they see it that's what drawn to you don't ever get it over that's what especially this day and age with it
Starting point is 00:09:20 nigga that's what it is nigga it's the's genuine. You know what I'm saying? Cause a lot of shit you can see through it. Or well I can. Like you can fool a lot of motherfuckers. Cause a lot of motherfuckers good at being a good fake guy. You know what I'm saying? A quick good guy.
Starting point is 00:09:37 A quick TV. Yeah. But some people you can just see right through. You can see like it's them and don't get it twisted, it's still a character because you have to be a character for entertaining wise, but you can see it's a character of who you are in general, you get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:53 And that's what's genuine in your lyrics, and your personality, and your presence, and in your social media and everything, and that's why you win, nigga. Come on. The nigga gave me the word, come on. Hey man, that's the weed talker here. That's the weed talker.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Fact, fact. I love it. Gratitude, man, I appreciate that. So I heard you was going on, they was telling me, cause yesterday we were supposed to do it, but you had to do something. It was telling me you're going on a retreat or some shit right yeah yep what kind of teaching you going on man so it's this um indian mystic named sad guru who's uh one of my favorite just a favorite human of
Starting point is 00:10:40 mine but he teaches like you go on youtube and he just teaches you about life shit but mind but he teaches like you go on YouTube and he just teach you about life shit but like niggas just ask him questions and he just give you an answer right then he wrote a couple books here author and shit so I've just been reading his shit and watching his shit for like the past few years and randomly they reached out to me and was like we're doing a private retreat and we want to Welcome you to it and invite you and it was just like what the fuck That's dope you like, man this nigga doing everything right, nigga. Like, and you doing it at the right time too,
Starting point is 00:11:28 you know what I'm saying? Cause that's what you're supposed to be doing at that journey at your age, at the eternal 29 going into your 30s, you know what I'm saying? So you have full understanding and you gon' be all right, nigga. So shit, like I say, this show too is about like,
Starting point is 00:11:44 you ask any kind of questions, you can ask me anything about life, anything you, anything. And if the answer too deep or too crazy that you don't wanna answer, we can cut this shit out, cause this shit is my shit, I don't give a fuck. Like I don't have to, I'm not no clickbait nigga.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I do this shit, I give a fuck. Okay, here, I got my first question But you have you have this cast But you get the you get to smoke weed and tell you shit in the in the form that you do So how did that how does that deal look for you? And what did you negotiate? With this one right here With with this right here? With this one right here, right? This one, yeah. Well, honestly, honestly, this deal was because I really never
Starting point is 00:12:29 wanted I really never want to do a podcast, honestly. Only reason I did this because my man, he my man Clay, this is like my my my manager like my older brother and everything. He was everything to me. And he kept forcing my hand to do it because everybody wanted me to get in the podcast and I ain't never wanna do this shit because I'm one of them people,
Starting point is 00:12:52 if I see everybody doing it, I don't wanna do it. You know what I'm saying? And then once I see how the game went, it's like, all right, I ain't, but everybody keep telling me to do it. So he was the man who told me to do it. Then he died, he just died. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:10 So I'm really doing it for him to be honest with you. So really the deal was really all for this nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like he got half the money and died. That wasn't making a contract. I swear to God. And I did it with Black Effect because they are really my family, like with Dolly and Charlamagne.
Starting point is 00:13:36 So it's really like a family thing I do it for. Cause like, honestly, I wouldn't even be doing this shit if it wasn't for them, honestly. Cause I post that, this show, this shit was three, four years old. I probably been did this shit. I just ain't did it, but they so cool. They so cool with me, because like, this is real like family, family.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And that's a good thing because like, for people to be empowered and have family, and you can do what you wanna do, like, cause I was fucked up when I got hit by a car. So I was out for like a year. So they could have took the money back and everything. But I said, fuck, but they didn't trip off of it and they waited for me.
Starting point is 00:14:15 So really I'm just doing it now just cause of them. That's hard. That's beautiful. Man, that's, that shit leads to such a grander outcome than, you know, when it's like 50-50. I do everything for money, Beryl. I mean, I'll do everything for love.
Starting point is 00:14:35 The money part, it just came natural. I never had to chase money in my life. You know what I'm saying? And I'm blessed like that because in certain times, when I came into the game when I was younger So I it just was a blessing at the same time I never had to chase it so I never cared about money like most people do it just naturally came and The business came part of it just ought to just understand the simple shit like I never complicated my business
Starting point is 00:15:00 You know, I always kept my business simple as fuck and I always kept my business kind of private too. I don't let everybody in on my business because once you get everybody in business, it's not a big it becomes it becomes saturated like the podcast business. You see what I'm saying? Right. No, you're good. Hey, nigga, right. It becomes very filter. Like it don't be, it be scripts. And it's not an extra. Do you think that that improves the outcome though? As far as what?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Give me what you mean. I do you feel like when we be going to like those podcasts maybe having the scripts and the saying all that shit like it'd be better Quality or so not really though cuz shit No, I mean honestly when you do the podcast do I do it for a reason? They have to be a real reason behind why I'm doing it I have to be a person that I really fuck with you see upset if it's saying? If it's somebody I really fuck with, I just do them.
Starting point is 00:16:05 You know what I'm saying? Like, cause honestly- There's some podcasts where they have a whole script and like the questions written and you gotta like- Yeah, they do. And it's because that's the way, that's the way. And honestly, it's a gift and a curse. Cause honestly, I hate that.
Starting point is 00:16:22 It seems like that's all that entertainment as far as our community has gotten to is just talking. You see what I'm saying? And I got to hate like, and I hate it because we doing it right now. Just fucking talking. But it's like, I hate that this is what it's come to like, we do more this than we do in a fucking tainted. You see what I'm saying? You feel what I'm saying? So I hate that, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I hate that, bro. That nigga laugh. Why you niggas ain't rapping? Right? No, for real. Rapping and entertaining performance, like niggas. But see, I started in performance, so I never got out of performance.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I always understood the power of it. And now it's got to the point where the audience they know that you can't fool them no more so you gotta goddamn entertain or something so that's why people like you always win because you have all that all in one you should have said so it really works in my favor in the long run. You get it. You're a nigga who like, bruh, that shit was crazy as like, if you do the entertaining part, you really don't even have to do the talking part. Like we do this shit, and it's like, like you said, you hardly got around to like, all right, I do that. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:17:43 But you don't have to. My little cousin he um I guess like I'll be proud of this nigga right like he's a perfect example of somebody that he's just so talented he let his talent do the talking his name's your hard sweet he'll produce you the fuck with him I'm her I've seen it yeah Kalani Taylor Swift, this nigga, he Drake, he just on Drake three songs on Drake album and everything. That's your nephew, like your nephew-nephew or nephew like me? This is like my cousin, cousin like from born, this is like my blood cousin like we have like,
Starting point is 00:18:17 I got pictures in there that I'll send them to you or whatever but like he went to Juilliard and everything, like he was raised right. And he came out right like, especially in the era of, he came in the era of, of your hair, because he's like 29 too. So he's the same exact age as, Kalani, you know all of them. Like, so, so you understand who he is. So he came up the right way without doing all the fuckery and he's success, success. You see what I'm saying? So he's, he's one of
Starting point is 00:18:45 the people always use as an example of you don't have to play the fuckery game like and I don't and I don't not play a fuckery game because sometimes that's all you got and but you know what it is it's like it's how we antiquate success right Jahan sweet is successful, but he's not famous like And that's what we live in a time where niggas associate fame with success, right? Some people Would rather be famous than successful like somebody was like, yeah that's kind of always been like they just got magnified is because Fame ain't nothing but attention like people want attention and attention feels like love when you ain't used to love. So and that's what and that's
Starting point is 00:19:30 all it is. People just want attention. It's as simple as getting a shout out in the club back in the day. That's what social media is now. It's a shout out. You just feels attention into the love and that's what is magnified now. So everybody wants love. They want that more than money honestly. You you see I'm saying so is It's the catch-22 of everything. So that's why and that's where we are as an entertainment Why is this like people so trying to chase the attention? That we've lost value in the in the in the entertainment and there's no value in it now because you know You know what's crazy
Starting point is 00:20:11 Castle culture has showed niggas how much it's attention and how much when a nigga don't love you That attention can always be swayed, but there's no love in it. And that's what I mean But you have to already program as a comedian Well for me you kind of sign that's what you signed up for to get blackballed. You know what I'm saying? If you're a real comedian. If you're really talking about life. Yeah, like most comedians, you're not really a comedian if you haven't got canceled.
Starting point is 00:20:34 You know what I'm saying? I get canceled once a month damn near. But I don't think nobody got canceled more than me because I've been canceled for over 15 years straight. You get what I'm saying? So it kind of comes with the territory. So it's like, but it comes with tough skin. But now I guess the audience like-
Starting point is 00:20:54 Do you be apologizing for shit? I've never apologized. I've lost millions not apologizing to that. Ask anybody about me. I don't, my reputation speaks for itself. Yeah, I'll tell you about it. I don't, my reputation speaks for itself. Yeah, I tell you, but I don't know, some shit. I still got shit now I can't do now because I will never apologize. Nigga, you have to come to the crib.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I wouldn't recommend doing that with me, like what I do, because like I, I stand the way I say, but I understand what come with it too. So I'm not one of people that cry be like man They don't fuck with me because it's such a such it's like being bad at your offer not fucking with you You know I'm saying like I know what comes with you. So I'm saying so I if I say If I say fuck this and I'm not apologizing about it. I But at the same time if I if I'm wrong, I can stand a straightening to you feel of that But if I don't feel like I'm wrong, I'm not gonna say that to anybody. But at the same time, if I'm wrong, I can stand a straightening too. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:47 But if I don't feel like I'm wrong, I'm not apologizing. Right. You see what I'm saying? Sheesh! But I don't recommend that to anybody. Miggah, you gotta come to the crib. Please, when you out here, just come by the crib. I told you I would be up there in the next weeks
Starting point is 00:22:06 I mean, yeah next week Perfect. We got to lock in after this We locked in baby. You know I nigga be playing this shit in the head already. I'm already trying to get you to do a set I was in my head like nigga Oh I got some vibe shit for the backyard Come on. I'm a full-round entertainer. Just give me a drum and a keyboard.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Just we vibe. Oh, God. That's me. Give me some keys. Good people, what's up? It's Quest-O, Questlove. And Team Supreme and I have been working hard to bring you some incredible episodes of Questlove Supreme with gifts you definitely don't want to miss. Now one of the things I love about this Questlove Supreme podcast is we got
Starting point is 00:22:52 something for everybody, every type of musical ever. We enjoy speaking to the people who are the face of some movements and some people you've seen on stage or TV or magazine covers but we also love speaking to the folks who were making it happen behind the scenes and they paved the way for those that followed you know keystones to the culture. This season we've had some amazing one-on-one conversations like on PayPal chatting up with hit maker Sam Holland, shook Steve Chad with the legend Nick Lowe and I've had pleasures of doing one-on-one conversations with Willow, Sonata Matreya, Kathleen Hanna, and the RZA.
Starting point is 00:23:28 These are conversations you won't hear anywhere else. So make sure you go back and you check those episodes out, all right? Listen to Questlove Supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You get your podcast. Hey everyone, it's John also known as Dr. John Paul, and I'm Jordan or Joe Ho.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And we are the Black Fat Film Podcast, a podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh, chat. This year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey show, Angelica Ross and more. Make sure you listen to the Black Fat Fam podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl. Oh, I know that's right. What's up, y'all? This is Questlove, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family-friendly podcast.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Yeah, you heard that right. A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids starting on September 27th. I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nimini, to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out. Hey y'all, Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through hip hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone.
Starting point is 00:25:06 A tip, but a cap, because another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, he was Claudette Goldman. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records. Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeart Radio
Starting point is 00:25:46 app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets. How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And how would you feel if your doctor advised you to keep your life-altering medical procedure a secret from everyone? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our eleventh season of Family Secrets. Some of you have been with us since season one and others are just tuning in. Whatever the case and
Starting point is 00:26:30 wherever you are, thank you for being part of our Family Secrets family where every week we explore the secrets that are kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi this is Ruthie Rogers host of our podcast Ruthie's Table 4. There are many luxuries in life but I have to say that going to see Ian McKellen was one of the great days of my life. It's a joke that actors in the old days not being paid enough money or getting enough to eat would say, we're doing Chekhov.
Starting point is 00:27:10 There's a practical pork pie in the third act. Free, free food. Listen to Rufy's Table Four on iHeart, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you listen to your podcasts. See you there. Let me ask you this here. What's your end goal? What's your end goal? What's your end goal?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Man. And there's two parts, in the game and in life. In life, I just want to die peaceful. And that's not to say not in any type of specific way, but just at peace. But I guess that don't even matter. I don't know. I don't be thinking about that shit
Starting point is 00:27:49 as much as maybe I should or something like that. Always think at the end and go backwards. That's how you do it. Like you think about that and go on backwards and that's your life. That's what I do. It's funny, because I be talking about like digging a hole, right? And as you dig a hole, you're like,
Starting point is 00:28:11 Oh, I can put a pool in here. And once you get a pool, it's like, Oh, we can add lights around here. But some people just draw up the whole blueprint first and then start that. But does that give you room to um, like yo yo journey to where you are now was that a Thing and you and you went backwards. Yep. I knew from day one like even as a jet
Starting point is 00:28:35 I always understood even though I didn't understand the fact I kind of understood what I was supposed to be you know I'm saying like I don't like to give my example because it sounds cliche, but then it sounds like this nigga just think he's just God's gift or some shit. But it's just like, I really just kind of understood. I had real understanding at a young age. Even like, like nowadays being a entertainer ain't nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:02 But when I came up in it saying you was going to be a entertainer, especially where I'm from, it was like seeing being an astronaut. You see what I'm saying? So it was real farfetched. Niggas bar was Michael Jackson. It's like you watched it, but you didn't think you could do it. You see what I'm saying? Like it's just like you didn't understand it, but of my mind or maybe it was my can always give the credit to my community because they kind of molded me and sheltered Me to to make me who I am who I am now
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's why I always go back to my community and and try to give back and do whatever I can you know I'm saying so My whole name is my community my Duval is is Duval County. That's the whole city. You know what's crazy. You've always been a Multifaceted figment in my life Like and it's really dope because it's very reflective of myself. I've never been able to pinpoint Specifically what you do because it's always something different depending on what time we end and that's really dope just that's just a nod I was just a thought that crossed my mind I started thinking I'm like damn this nigga do do comedy it's kind of like what I said what I say I see in you it's
Starting point is 00:30:21 like we are we are in one of each other. So we understand each other because we connect. We connect just through our DNA, you know what I'm saying? Through our heritage, through who we are as a people. And that's what the connection is, you know what I'm saying? Even if you, and it's genuine, you get what I'm saying? So even if you don't, even if you don't never seen a stand up of me, you see me as an uncle, you see what I'm saying? even if you don't even if you don't never seen a stand-up of me you see me as as a you see what I'm saying especially through social media because what most people don't realize I've been on social media more than
Starting point is 00:30:52 anybody and and and what we don't understand is nothing been more powerful than social media the last 15 20 years and and every morning you wake up and go see La Duvo so every morning if you wake it up I'm like your family member so you was raised with me it's like being raised on Nickelodeon right it's like it's like people that was raised on Nick Cannon like now people 40 years old they still love Nick Cannon because he was raised on the knee and that's what it kind of is with social media and everything with me it's like you was raised with me through Twitter through myspace through
Starting point is 00:31:30 Instagram through YouTube through comic you through the TV show through the movies everything cuz I I just and that's all entertainment and that's all everybody do that's all shit you do you ain't just a rapper you everything you you're a businessman you're you're at you can act at any moment that's all this whole generation is that's how entertainment was at one time in general it just in the 80s it broke off into different shits but we was always doing everything like that's that's why I call myself Sammy Davis Duvall because that's all he did everything and they can sing dance How much in your life now? Um
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's shit that you don't Do you still have to do shit that you don't desire to do? I'm gonna tell you that's a blessing that I've always had I've always had the luxury to do what the fuck I wanna do. That's, it's harder for me to try to do other shit. I swear to God, I be trying to do like, cause like, I be like, damn, maybe if I try to, but I'm so programmed to do what the fuck I wanna do.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I don't know how to do nothing else. I don't know how to, I don't know how to filter myself. That's why I always get to lead on social media. Because I'm so used to being able to do what the fuck I want to do. I can't even do right up my try. And that's a beautiful thing. It made me think it made me think of boozy. Boozy gonna always get deleted and rebuild some shit because boozy not doing nothing but being boozy you feel yeah yeah that shit gone even with me I I'm just who I am because but I've never it's never intentionally like trying to fuck people over I'm trying to intentionally hurt people are fucking
Starting point is 00:33:20 miles of it's just me being it's like and honestly I'm a reflection of who our whole community is when it comes to social media because they not only when they flag me or some shit they really flag and I dive like on how we talk because that's usually what it is and I talk just a reflection of who our community is so you know so funny that's true like they they're taking Intentional things that we just say to each other because we go when you come up from here like that's That's how that's the same comments like if somebody tell me to shut up They get flagged for telling me to shut up when we just you know, we just might be a man. Shut up man
Starting point is 00:34:03 right, but they take it like that because, but that's what they always do. They use us to come up on the, they've been doing this even before social media, they use our platform as a culture to build the brand. And once they build the brand, they move on and then shit on our shit. They've been doing that. So they did that with Fox network. They've been doing that. So they did that with Fox Network. Have you met anyone in your journey that surprised you
Starting point is 00:34:29 in terms of who they were? Like they were either way better than you thought or like niggas. That nigga ain't nothing like y'all think he is. There's plenty of niggas that ain't nothing that they think he is is but as far as I can tell you the most genuine person in hip-hop. That's Snoop.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Snoop the most genuine person in hip-hop I think. Snoop, I mean as far as the biggest names but as far as like DJ Poo, he a genuine good guy. These the OGs, he a genuine good guy. These the OGs. Tep a genuine, T.I. he's a genuine good guy. But he's like one of them stubborn, like if he love you, he love you.
Starting point is 00:35:13 He's one of them stubborn good guys. But if he with you, he gonna ride with you. Genuine good guy. Shit. Who else? I'm just trying to think off the top of my head my managers pass clay that's good for you see nice plenty of it's really good people in there like
Starting point is 00:35:35 this it's playing good people and it too I can't say too many people fuck no because I don't look for shit out of people a lot so you can't fuck no because I'm not expecting shit from most people you know I'm saying I don't look for shit out of people a lot so you can't fuck me over because I'm not expecting shit from most people you know I'm saying I don't have expectations on people so I rarely I rarely see the fuck shit in in people like that there you know I'm saying like that's plenty people like I see Charlemagne Charlemagne he's a different type of motherfucker like he he'll help anybody then I was like hey man I niggas he gonna fuck you over you gonna realize they ain't shit.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And then nine times out of 10, every person I talk to, what the shit and what the fuck I'm over, they end up doing. You know what I'm saying, Brett? But for the most part, shit, who else? It's a lot of genuine people, man. A lot of black, genuine women out here, man. That's where you gonna see lot of black genuine women out here man that's that's
Starting point is 00:36:25 where you gonna see most of the black women they do a lot of they they the ones shit on the load that show a lot of love that they may say yeah yeah yeah but yeah remember shit anything else this last thing that we are this motherfucker man cuz we're talking though right I don't give a shit, anything else, this the last thing, and then we out this motherfucker, man, because we ain't talking enough. Right. Right. I don't do no, there's another thing, I don't like just random, just random just talking.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I like to make it make sense, like talking for two hours. No, no. I hate the two hour podcast. I swear to God, I've never watched the two hour, I've never watched the two hour podcast. I've never watched it to our I've never watched it to our I've never watched the park Right that that's the craziest part, you know, but the thing is like I Get it only
Starting point is 00:37:20 One episode like I'm a nigga who right every time I do an interview I go in and I take all the pieces I need out of that interview and it's like if you have one good episode Nigga, you got about 40 50 clips for the rest of your year You ain't got to do shit else on social media But run them fucking clips and run your ass and you know, like you eat but sometimes it'd be two hours Let's see that got played out now cuz niggas done ran that shit in the ground right two hours. But see that done got played out now cuz niggas done ran that shit in the ground. Right. You know, yes, but no, bro. It's funny because earlier you were saying how you was like, you'll see niggas doing shit and you be like, I ain't doing that shit cuz niggas doing
Starting point is 00:37:54 it. But really, with your mind, if you see niggas doing shit, that's just an opportunity to be like, I can do that shit way better than them niggas You have the actual thing like me and you have that thing that everybody was they I Nigger we can do what? May not keep telling me and that of them they say the same thing, but I'm I'm stubborn, but I listen I listen to serve people so Listen to me I listen to certain people so they tell me this shit. Listen to me. I can do it just like this project.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Listen to me. I'm really only doing it because of them. No, but listen nigga, look, just this talk me and you had on Riverside with our blurry screens and you tell me like, nigga, imagine if you somewhere in this same, like when it happens, when you come to the yard or we meet and we get the cameras and shit,
Starting point is 00:38:45 like bro, it only amplifies it in the shit that you already do, cause it's like you already doing it nigga. Just watch. You're right man. You're right. That's God man, that's God telling you to tell me man. Stop bullshitting.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Right? Well real cause this shit, bro we just had a great time and it was short and it's better than that scripted Oh nigga, this shit was organic as fuck So it's like if you know you could do it on that level cuz everybody doing it nigga this shit a w They made I was a that was it is a W nigga One of my favorite interviews and we did this shit on Zoom with a blurry screen, nigga.
Starting point is 00:39:28 When it broke like a motherfucker. Nigga, like a motherfucker. When it only, but it's like, it don't even have to be. But I get it. That's always in my model, man. Keep it simple, stupid. That's my model, it. Keep it simple. That's my model. Keep it simple, stupid. That's my model. Kiss. Keep it simple, stupid. I still record in the crib, but I'm getting to it's that point where like, okay, we got to maintain what we want. So we do whatever the fuck we want because I have to do whatever the fuck I want. But it's like, it's like
Starting point is 00:40:02 when you got to go to the airport, you can have a Honda Acura TO6 pick you up or you can get a black Escalade. And neither of those is really gonna cost you difference when you're doing the shit you're supposed to do, the work, you feel me? So, ooh, Nick, I just already see it. Cause this was a good ass fucking interview. But them niggas don't be having that thing.
Starting point is 00:40:24 They don't have the thing. We're flooded with a bunch of amateurs who don't have that thing who are trying to have that thing When it come to art when it come to art it's like I need people around me that's gonna make me Make me want to give a fuck. I don't, I'm not impressed with nothing. Right. Miggas, that's what I be like. That's why I don't give a fuck. No movies no more because it's like in the last, I was 40 yas. That shit be ass. And it be like, if somebody- Y'all in the last 20 years,
Starting point is 00:40:53 and this ain't the shit on nobody movie, I can name baby two movies, I be like, damn, I wish I woulda did that. Other than that, ain't no movies make me give a fuck about being here. Ain't nothing I be like damn, I wish I did. You know what's crazy though? Because we have representations,
Starting point is 00:41:08 like Charlamagne is a really great representation of a nigga who's been a nigga, but at a, they said like, no matter what level he has to do it, he remains his Charlamagne. And that'd be our biggest thing. We'd be like, nigga, once that shit get there, it become,
Starting point is 00:41:22 but like she's saying, if niggas like me and you decided to do it They give the home run cuz we don't have to do nothing But be us everybody else gotta get the lives and they dance and they got to do all the extra shit But we don't have to do nothing but be us But you know what's so hard about it, you know, you know, it's so hard about it when it's really you you take it for granted I'll be taking it for granted sometime because it comes so second nature right and you know i'll be battling with that because i'll be like some days i'll be upset that everybody thinks knows and feels like i'm the I am. Yeah. Yeah, nigga, nigga. Nigga, that shit so real.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Nigga, you think it's- I'll be like, fuck wrong with these niggas. Fuck wrong with these niggas. Ah! Man, this shit so real, nigga. Now, I gotta come out there and fuck with y'all for real, man. I gotta come out there and fuck with y'all for real, for real I gotta come out there and fuck with y'all for real, for real.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Please do, please do. I'm not gonna hold you no longer, but nigga, this was great. I feel like we both got information we needed to hear from each other. I'm so glad. I ain't got nothing. Come on, still sharp and still. That was the same shit, nigga.
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