The Breakfast Club - Dame Dash Interview

Episode Date: March 13, 2015

Dame Dash stops through to discuss his new film and things get heated when the conversation turns to Jay Z. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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listen to 10. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angelou. Yish, all I mean to God, we are The Breakfast Club. Special guest in the building. Very highly requested interview. For a long time now. What's happening? Mr. Damon Dash. What's going on?

You brought some people with you today. Introduce your peoples. I got First Gov. He wants to be noticed. I heard the dog under there. Yeah. And I got my OG Daniel to my left and to my right. I got Murder Mook.

What's the Murder Mook affiliation? I know he's in the movie, but is that what y'all doing? Other things too? The overall affiliation is the Harlem thing. Smoke Dizzer, who's not here, I don't know why. You know, he was hanging out at DD-172. That's the gallery I had in Tribeca a couple years back. And I knew him before he kind of hit it big

or whatever we got to this much success and we reconnected he was always trying to bring Murder Mook around because you know he's from Harlem and I'd be like I'm really because I don't like hanging out with dudes too much that I don't know you know and I was like I'm not really trying to know anybody named Murder with the first name Murder you know what I'm saying and but we ended up one night at that fish market with A$AP Rocky and he was there and he came through with the first name Murder. You know what I'm saying? But we ended up one night at that fish market with A$AP Rocky, and he was there, and he came through with the car. He got this car that has a lot of personality, and he showed me. We went back to A$AP Rocky's house, and he showed me the movie.

He showed everybody, rather than the television show on Fuse. And, you know, I'm about battle rap, and that's where I'm from. And something about him was kind of familiar to me, Paul. So he started to come around the gallery and making music, and I started doing the movies. battle rap and that's where I'm from and something about him was kind of familiar to me Paul so he started to come around the gallery and making music and I started doing the movies and there's a lot of things that he spoke about and him and his other friends like blackface the way they spoke and the things they spoke about reminded me of my um OG Daniel you know and I hadn't seen Daniel I'm telling you how I met him but now I now I'm going to tell you how I met Daniel.

So then they started to come around and make music. And we were doing Los Adas. And there was something that they said that was very distinctive. So I started to talk about what I used to do with my old homeboys. And one of my OGs was Daniel. And I was like, I don't know Daniel. And they were like, Blackface pulled him and was like, I think he's talking about Nico. His name D.

He might be Daniel. And they showed me the pictureface pulled him and was like, I think he's talking about Nico. His name D. He might be Daniel. And they showed me the picture, and it was my OG. You know, it was the person that, you know, kind of guided me. Like, a lot of people guided me when I was younger and in the street. And there's a lot of people we have in common that became legends in the street, whether it's for wrong or right reasons. But in those moments, we didn't know that the things we were doing were legendary. And he kind of said and

did things that taught me how to survive in those extreme environments and then also i was able to apply it now and like when things were questioned like my honor i would always go back to would the guys that raised me be all right with what i'm doing you said you question your honor what do you mean question your honor like if let's say someone offered me a bag of money to do something that I traditionally wouldn't do, but it'd be like I need to do it for more money, I'd be like, Harlem dude wouldn't do that. My homeboys would laugh at me. What would Daniel say? You know, that kind of stuff.

Because I know he was somewhere. You know, I hadn't seen him for 25 years. But then he came around. It was the same Daniel. You know, he was still up still had a point of view and i was shooting a scene and he was giving advice to the person shooting the scene he was so animated uh your governor stop that man that's his dog he's talking to by the way she's crying like what's wrong with you he wants to be with his mother then go over there go be

with rockella he's bugging. Anyway, so him and I. Anyway, so I put him in the movie. I was like, do the movie. And he was so good at it. Like, literally, when he did his scenes, people quit on the set. Because they were so scared because he's so authentic. And we were able to pull from our actual experiences of the people around us and the aggression of the people around us.

Right. But still have. Because we had the intelligence not to do what everyone was doing like you got a choice in the street you could survive but usually there's a paper bag of money that makes you do something that's against that honor code and that's the thing that gets you jammed up compromise yourself yeah and the things he taught me was don't ever compromise you know and it's not just him he walks around with an og and that's what harlem dudes do now let me ask you you talk about harlem a lot you know and it's not just him he walks around with the og all right and that's what harlem dudes do now let me ask you you talk about harlem a lot you know when you're just talking or

from a long time how did you meet up with jay-z who was from brooklyn because like you guys you really still curious about the jay-z absolutely you don't know the story curious no we want you to tell the story let me ask you a question no this is not you're not asking people who want to know that can i ask you a question. No, you're not asking questions, James. We're asking you. People want to know that. Can I ask you a question? Have you never asked this question from me before about Jay-Z? I have, but I was on a smaller scale. It wasn't as big as the breakfast club is now.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think everybody knows that question? I don't think everybody knows that answer. Do you know the answer? Yeah. No, you tell us the answer. Tell us the answer. It's different because we're on a different scale. Is this a Harlem Queens thing? Like Harlem Queens don't get along? Let me ask you a question.

Okay, let's be men, right? If somebody asks you the same questions 25 times, maybe 2,500 times, do you still want to talk about the same thing? Yes or no? No. So that's just me being human. No, no, I understand. So I don't care what platform you're on. I'm sick of talking about it.

Let's talk about something else. It's a different platform. I know, but I want to talk about something else. Yeah, but we're going to ask you So I don't care what platform we on. I'm sick of talking about it. Let's talk about something else. It's a different platform. I know, but I want to talk about something else. Yeah, but we're going to ask you if you don't want to answer. I just told you, next question. That's cool. No more Jay-Z questions. I answered them all.

Well, I want to talk about you. You say you're OGs. You talk about your counsel. Like, I always wondered who was your counsel. Like, when you would scream on other executives back in the day. Like, were those the guys you would go to and say, yo, was I wrong for that? I would never oh for screaming on other executives yeah yeah they weren't in my life at the time but i had my crew

and i had the people see the reason why i would scream is because it would be for me not putting my hands on them see the way i was taught when you putting up money and someone doesn't do what you say or they owe you money if you don't put your hands on them then you can't be outside anymore so you have to make examples out of people so the yelling and the snapping and laughing at people was i was taught to hurt people but instead i was also taught a smarter way to get at people and that's one of the things that daniel taught me so like it would be the people that be around and they would be straight real tough but i could just snap on them we would snap all day and instead of me having to kill these with guns i killed them with

jokes and daniel's a funny dude you know but when it came down to it my knuckle game's proper you know in my eyes i'm not f***ing around you know i'm gonna go out all out for what i believe in but i'd rather laugh at you than shoot you i'd rather make a movie i'd rather talk to you disrespectfully than have to punch you in your mouth for disrespecting me that's what i was taught so that's the that's what I was taught. So that's the way I was able to maneuver. So instead of going to get my gun, I was able to use my logic. And it's like math.

Everything is simple math. You ask me a question 25 times just because you want everyone else to know. I don't care. I'm sick of answering that question. Period. So I don't want to talk about another man all day. I want to talk about other things. You know what I mean? Period. Men don't want to talk about other men. It bugs me out.

Why are men so curious about other men? That makes no sense. I'm never worried about other men that much. Let me ask you as a woman. Why are men so worried about other men and how much money they got and all this other man stuff? Why? Well, I think part of it is social media.

You know what happens? What's that got to do with it? No, no. We put up a picture. So you make money from it. We put up a picture of David Dasher's hair and a bunch of people will be like, ask him this, ask him this.. What's that got to do with it? No, no, we put up a picture, like, you know, David Dasher's hair, and a bunch of people would be like, ask him this, ask him this. So it's a money thing.

It is true that people ask the same questions because some people might not have heard the answer. Everybody heard this answer. I won't say this or not. Everybody knows my history with Jay. I already said, listen, let me just say something. Y'all saw my other interview. I already told you the reasons why

I don't want to talk about that, man. You got one of them hats on right now i told you why because look at the guys right here i told you why get off of that man paul you asked that man y'all never asked that man no questions oh no we did we definitely did what do you answer he did he seemed like you know i just don't want to talk about those days that was 15 years ago that's still how y'all make money no i agree the reason why listen if y'all still making money off of old substance, then how are you going to grow? No, I agree with that.

We're still talking about Jay. I haven't even seen Jay but two times in 15 years. But this is my thing, though, that you did add something new to the conversation when you said you bought up this stuff about Desiree.

I didn't bring up nothing. I didn't say a name. I said, look, you still bringing it up. You got the hat on. I told you I don't want to talk about it. So I don't want to talk

about it no more. You understand? See, y'all don't understand what's out there. People go to jail. People get killed for this kind of stuff. I don't play these ghetto games. I'll do this bubble gum. I told you.

Once a nigga has certain friends, we don't even talk about them no more where I'm from. So you think I'm going to get on the camera and keep talking about this thing? I don't know what's going on over there. You got the hat on. You asked him. You calling out names. You call them. Okay, so you talked about it, so you want to talk about other things.

Yeah, move on. You did talk about, you know, I would say you were the bad guy at one time. That was your job. Now, the reason I'm asking. No, I wasn't the bad guy. I was the good guy. I was the bad guy to the bad people. Right.

I'm the good guy to the good guys. Trust me. I'm always going to be a bad guy to somebody. You was looked at as a bad guy, I would say. Let me ask you a question. If I beat the shit out of you, and you were fucked up, dude, you did something bad. But in your mind, I fucked you up. Am I a bad guy to somebody listen listen let me ask you a question if i beat the shit out of you and you're up dude you did something bad but in your mind i f**k you up am i a bad guy if i did something bad no no to that person that got his ass whipped i am a bad guy to the person that got his ass whipped but that's what i'm saying so so hold on so i'm looking no but look i'm walking

around whipping ass somebody gonna say i'm a bad guy right absolutely pause you know what i'm saying i said i didn't say who's that guy right absolutely pause you know I'm saying I'm gonna be a bad guy that's all good guy like Batman they said he was a bad guy but your superhero everything that fight they said Jesus was a bad guy right or wrong like what do you get right there's a joke I'll be saying but I made it up right what do you get when you have a dinner with a bunch of people that you're guiding

and taking care of what hung up on a cross because that's what they did to Jesus so you've seen men violate God so all

men gonna violate everybody here's a question I have how come there was no women at the last supper I'm asking I don't know why you never thought about that no I never did see that's the questions I'd be wondering maybe they was in the kitchen cooking nah asking i don't know why you never thought about that no i never did

that's the questions i'd be wondering maybe they was in the kitchen cooking because i don't know what was going bottom line is see that's why he got violated you ain't got no women around watching your back you're getting violated period the bible is the bible is 3 000 pages about stories about men violating god so that's just me saying men are always going to violate other men paul so i try to keep my circle tight and keep more women around me. I don't like dudes that much. They be worried about the wrong shit. There's also a lot of stories in the Bible where girls got men caught up though. I'm talking about the picture. No matter.

I'm talking about the Last Supper. If I'm Jesus and I'm giving jewels and all that, I'm going to have some girls around. I'm telling you. You feel like women are more trustworthy than men? 100. Because women have estrogen instead of testosterone. See, estrogen, testosterone, men should always want to be number one. A man should always want to be number one.

He has nuts. His job is to go make women pregnant and to go take care of his woman, to go eat, to be the champion. So he's supposed to be number one. Like me, us three sitting here, no matter what, he knows he can have this slap. He knows he can have it. Pause. In Harlem, we always think we supposed to think that. Because that's what real men think.

You know? And that's what testosterone breeds. That's why you can't hire a bunch of men. They're going to resent you. You know what you get when you give a bunch of men stuff? They resent you for that. They want to kill you because they want to be the boss. If a man doesn't want to be the boss, then he's not a real man. Every real man wants to be a boss. Who do the girls like?

The boss. So everyone the girls like? The boss. So everyone that has girlfriends, they're going to keep their girls away from the boss because he's the most appealing, right? Is that one of the reasons you've had a lot of problems with like artists? I've always been the boss. I don't know. Those are not problems for me. When men don't want to be around, that's better for me.

I run into their women other places. It's all right. You know, like when a woman talks bad, when a man talks bad about another dude in front of a woman, that's because he's afraid that the woman likes the other places. It's all right. You know, like when a woman talks bad, when a man talks bad about another dude in front of a woman, that's because he's afraid that the woman likes the other dude.

So the more men or women or men talk about me to their women, the more the women come to me. I love it. So to me, that's the good guy. It's all about perspective.

I'm the good guy. My home, have I ever been the bad guy at home? Nah. That's what I'm saying. I've never been the bad guy. No, no, I've never, I'm always, you know, like if you're at war, you're the bad guy to home? Nah. No, no. That's what I'm saying. I've never been the bad guy. No, no, I've never.

I'm always, you know, like, if you at war, you the bad guy, the people you fighting. Whoever looks at me as a bad guy, they're on the wrong team. If you're not honorable,

if you don't do play things fair, yeah, you better watch the f*** out because I'm protecting love. You see what I do when I got the rock paws. I give it the platform

to my friends and I always have. While I haven't been around, a lot of people got fat, but all my friends are starving or the people that I left out there. Everyone's starving. A couple of people are fat. We're taking it back so everybody can eat. Movies, radio, books, everything. Fashion, everything.

And when we have it, no one's going to have a boss. Everyone's going to be a boss, period. Are there times in business you feel like you haven't been honorable and fair? Never. I mean, people do make mistakes because they're human. Never. I've never not been honorable in business. Y'all keep telling me, every time I hear me not being honorable in business is from a radio show where men talk about men.

It's never been from that man telling me in my face he has an issue with me it's not a claim there's never been no social media how can a man say social media with a straight face men don't listen to social media no men don't listen to social media a real man doesn't listen to a rumor and twitter that's why let me ask you a question real calm real calm real calm calm. Does a real man listen to what another man says about another man? Yes or no? I mean, you listen. It's up to you to take it in.

You have no questions to ask me. I don't give a f***. This is the radio business. I don't give a f*** about the radio business. I don't give a f*** about nothing. He doesn't want to do that. That's not what he wants to do. What I'm saying is this

I just think Usually it's over money That people have No don't be over no money Because if it was over money How much money Which money do you It's all relative

I mean it's all relative But sometimes Is it $100,000 money It's money Not to me But you can't do Not to me It is money though

It's not to me It's relative I can't do shit with $100,000 My bills are way more Than $100,000 Alright forget all are way more than $100,000. Alright, forget all that money talk. I'm asking you a question. I'm trying to prove a point here so you can have a clarity of what y'all should be worried about.

So you're saying it's not relative based on who you are, what money is. Because $100,000 is definitely relative. No, it's not what I asked you. I asked you, $100,000 is not to me. It's relative. So let me ask you a question. Would you disrespect me for $100,000? No. It's not worth disrespecting. It's not worth going to take your friend? No. It's not worth disrespecting. It's not worth going to take your friend to court.

It's not worth going to a radio station and talking about business. What's worth a real man talking about his business on the radio between another man? What's worth that? Let me ask you from your opinion. For money? How much money? None. I don't need the money.

Exactly. It's not relevant to me. Exactly. So when a man comes on the radio and talks about money And he don't talk about me I know that's not the issue Because if it was really about money He would have called me He wouldn't have called you

He know I'm not listening to you How am I listening to you Ask me questions About another man money A real man don't answer those questions A real man don't ask them Let's talk about you Do you feel like you get your props

As a mogul man I don't care I take my props Word I don't care about props I care Yeah I do get like you get your props as a mogul? I don't care. I take my props. You don't fuck about props. I can't. Yeah, I do get my props. I'm not a mogul. I'm a tycoon.

I sell oil. Don't disrespect me and say I do everything everybody else does. And I put up my own money. All these so-called moguls y'all talking about, you name one of them, they'll put their own dough up. A boss, you're only the boss if you put up your own money. If you don't put up your own money, I don't care how much somebody gives you, you're nothing but a supervisor.

It's not yours. So how much money can you get paid to not call? There's no money in this world for someone to pay me so I can call them a boss. That's like calling somebody daddy. How can a man call another man, oh, that's my boss? We don't do that. I mean, everybody at some point has to have a boss, right? No, not in Harlem.

Oh, okay. Put it like this. Because you're somebody's boss. No, I'm not somebody's boss. don't do that I mean everybody at some point no no not in Harlem okay but like this is somebody's ball no I'm not somebody's boss I'm when I was in the street mm-hmm someone wasn't your boss they gave you an opportunity okay they gave you some work you go make it and then you bring it back you can go buy your own work you do whatever you want it's called consignment so why this can't be all work this corporate America we could be you know let me ask you a question can you give it to your son how you what's my son whatever she has this company I absolutely positively can how because I own shares of this company border yes what I'm

saying is can your son eat is this yours to give the whole company to you? This whole company is not my son's. Exactly. It's not mine. Wait, stop. Listen. Listen. It's not my question. If your son needs a job here, can you give it to him? No.

No. If your son needs to get some money out the bank from here, some cash flow, can you get it? No. All right. You don't own this. But I can take the money from here to invest in myself. No, it's not yours. I'm not going to fight for something I don't own.

Men don't do that. I don't fight for other niggas. I fight for me. I'm not going to fight for something I don't own. Men don't do that. I don't fight for other n****s. I fight for me. I'm not a doula. I'm not going to build somebody else's company and then pick chairs so my son can f*** all that. No, listen. Listen, what I'm saying is you come to work every day. I didn't take my stuff. Don't say you're speaking

my business and you don't know what you're talking about. I didn't take no money from Def Jam. What you talking about? What I mean take, I mean they cut you a check. No, they didn't cut me a check. We had a formula based on performance. And they calculated and we got paid. And they said, stop. That's not us. That's what we're doing.

No, no. Listen. Before we had Rockefeller. We put up our own money for Rockefeller. Right? Okay. Then we sold half of it. We became partners.

So that means no one gave us anything. We were 50-50 partners. We built something and sold it. That doesn't mean you work for somebody. See, they let you believe that. So then what happened was based on a formula, you know what a formula is? It was profit times a certain number. So if you make this much profit times seven, that's how much your number is. Based on that formula, they bought the rest. That's it. That's not nobody your number is. Okay. Based on that formula, they bought the rest. That's it. That's not nobody giving me money.

I never worked for them. I put up way more money than Def Jam put up. Me, Biggs, and Jay put way more money up into Def Jam, I mean, rather into Rockefeller than Def Jam. All they did was collect our money. What you mean? Why do you think Def Jam, they, first of all, when we were with Def Jam, they were bought by Universal.

How you going to call Def, how you going to think someone that's bought by someone could be someone's boss? That's my point. You have to understand what you're doing in business because you gotta do what's best for your kids. What's best for your kids is to put your money into something, the stress, go through all of it, so when your child becomes

a man, he doesn't have to work for nobody. You can just pass it to him now you talk about so if you're gonna work 20 years in a business or 15 years in a business every day over and over again and your son can't work here whenever he feel like it you clowning Time out. That's stupid. You should be... Time out. Nope. Nope. Nope. You're wrong. I like to check. Wait, wait. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. You're lying. I'm not. I'm serious.

I don't need to check. Before you lose your control, just stay focused. So listen to me. I'm working because I enjoy it. Why don't you listen? I'm working for free. Who could work... Would you ever enjoy being a slave? I'm not. It's not a slave. This is what I enjoy.

I don't think it's a slavery, Dan. Do you have to come to work today? Do you have a choice? Do you have to ask somebody when you have to do or you're fired can somebody tell you fired don't somebody tell you fired yes or no and be good another man say you're fired absolutely no one could tell me that and that's what I just priceless but I'm here because I don't care you enjoy having a man be a question so you being selfish I'm do you think your son enjoys you calling somebody else a boss?

Don't you think your son would rather wake up with you and you could pick him up from school instead of having to do a nine to five? Don't you think? Yeah, but don't you have to wake up at four in the morning? Don't you think your son would love if his name was up there? Dash or whatever your last name is instead of somebody else's? My pride is in my children Look at my son. I taught my son never to have a boss. She's 23. He owns a restaurant He has cookies. He has equity he busts his ass so he could pass it on to his son

If that's not what you hustlers for you're selfish. You keep saying I I'm worried about my kids You worried about you kids are good're worried about you. My kids are good. How they good? Your kids aren't going to be kids? I have enough investors but my kids don't pass for work. I feel like I'm in the Def Jam boardroom and backstage. They're kids. They're not supposed to work. I'm saying when they're men you're supposed to pass them something. They're not worried about a business.

You're working for another man. They're worried about. See to me this is retarded. They're worried about playing basketball. See this is retarded. I feel like I'm in Def Jam's boardroom. This is not backstage. Everybody cool out for a second. But Dan I'm going to ask you a serious question. Can not backstage. Everybody cool out for a second. But Dan, I want to ask you a question.

You're a businessman. Absolutely. What's wrong with taking the money from here and investing it into other stuff that we own? Nothing. Nothing at all. Thank you. Everybody eat a cookie.

Cool out for a second. I'm not mad. The mentality is this. It's frustrating. Because you're on the radio and this message is crazy to me. You're saying because you enjoy music or being a DJ, you enjoy having a boss if you enjoy being a dj just why don't you own your own radio station

and then dj for your own radio station so your son can just get on anytime he wants that's all i'm saying but it's no steps to it because i do it so you enjoy the safety and the security of a job every day but there's no pride in that to me. My son takes pride. My kids take pride in the fact that I have Dash Motors. And because I have that, my son said I'm not going to ever have a boss. His mentality is different.

It's just about changing mentality. Now let me ask you a question. There's millions of people out there that don't have that opportunity and have a boss every day. So you're basically saying because they have a boss, there's no pride in it? I think because people on the radio tell people it's okay to have a boss.

They don't understand that they can have more. And because of the direct-to-consumer relationship, the Internet, there's no excuse. So when I make a movie like Los Sidas, I don't have to ask if I could put Daniel in a movie. I just do it. I had to ask if I could put Daniel in a movie. I just do it. I had to ask if I could put... Wait, wait, hold on. I had to ask if I could put Cameron in it. I don't have to ask no more. You understand?

There's pride in that. There's just a pride you should have in ownership. How do you get to the platform? By putting your own money up and investing in yourself. That's it. You flip. And getting a good woman and stop trusting dudes and stop worrying about other people's pockets and what other people have and what other people can do for you and nine to fives aren't good because you look you hustling for a weekend but when you can do something that's for

yourself and your family it never feels like work i hustle for my i hustle for my last name i don't hustle for my first the dash name when listen my again when my grandfather died he looked at me and he knew that dash is always going to be there at least for the next couple of generations either through me my son or or my son's son it's a mentality i want to have generations of this what if your kids aren't as strong as you what if your kids kids aren't as strong as you then what the last reason why we set up the platform say they don't have to do anything you have a boss but you know what else is interesting how can a man say he has a boss and be proud

but dash like you know you say uh you should never worry about a man's pockets but i vividly remember you clowning people for being broke. No, no. I never clown someone for being broke. I'm clowning them for not spending money. You clown people for not having money. I know. You never heard me say it.

I've been in the office before you made fun of people's sneakers and their clothes. Yo, you know how many rich people buy wax sneakers? I just cut Kevin Hart up because he wore Uggs. He's a millionaire. That's what I'm telling you. It's not about money. You can't buy taste. No, you can't.

All right, so I snap on people who are having bad taste. It's not about money. So your approach is different. Your perspective, you see things through a different lens. What was the popping tags thing? I remember you started saying that. Because I used to pop tags. Because you know what happened was every time I went to the gym,

you know, I had brought new clothes. I changed in the gym. So every time I finished, it would be a pile of tags. So I'd be like, look, y'all, I'm popping tags. That's all. What's the problem? Why are you offended? I'm not offended. I don't know.

Why? Where's the snapping? No. It's about we have a different taste level. You like a boss. I don't. It's not a matter about having a boss. Yes, it is.

In my matter, it is. It doesn't matter to you. In me, it does. Because I have enough investments. I don't. Investments? You don't own nothing. You don't own nothing not a matter about having a boss yes it is in my matter it is it doesn't matter to you in me it does because I have enough investments I don't investments you don't own nothing you don't own nothing

investments you sound smart to somebody dumb you don't know what I'm saying what I'm saying is you got a boss you have a boss what are y'all arguing about do me a favor though

in the mix of this conversation you gotta do your homework don't tell me I sound stupid because now you disrespecting me no you telling me I sound stupid okay did I say you were stupid if I did I'm sorry but Did I say you were stupid?

If I did, I'm sorry. But did I say you sound stupid? Yes. Sorry about that. All right. Now, what were you saying, Moo? All I said, what I wanted to say was that since, because I heard somebody mention social media or something like that, but since the emergence, I think, of like a lot of the direct-to-consumer platforms, like the Instagrams and the Twitter, we started to see a lot of entrepreneurial people out there

and a lot of businesses being, you know what I mean, started from the ground level. We're seeing more and more people, you know, making money off Instagram, off of that thing. So you don't have to sell gossip anymore. You can do different things. Could you have gotten to that point? Let me ask you a question.

How do you feel about the fact that you sell gossip for them? Like you sell gossip. You're a man. How do men sell gossip? That's for women. You talk about what other people say. Every day,

you're talking about what you heard. That's gossip. That's women do that man that's what women do i don't listen to your show i don't want to hear about gossip i be asleep i'm a boss i wake up when i want i don't be up that early i mean i think i think there's a variety of things that we talk about you talk about what you told to talk about you got a boss no we actually come up with her own stuff you get told what to do no no we we don't. No, we definitely don't. Your boss tells you what to do. If I'm a boss, I tell whoever I'm doing it. You're lying.

What's your boss' name? What's your boss' name? Which one? Oh, my God. You're proud to say which one? Yeah, we're on 50 different markets. Yo, it's not your market. You don't own it.

No, but honestly, if they told us what to talk about, you wouldn't be here. Yes, they would. Yes, they would. I get ready. Don't do that. No one ever said that. No, I'm serious. Your boss said that? Yeah. Who? Call him, damn, you wouldn't be here. Because the people here, don't let them come. No one ever said that. No, I'm serious.

Your boss said that? Yeah. Who? Call him out. They say you used to work here. Call him out. Call him out. Nobody like to work with you.

Call him out. Who said it? I'm not going to say his name. So you're gossiping. That's chatty. Don't tell me nothing unless you're going to call somebody out of a shoot. That's girl s*** to me.

But I'm just telling you. No, I don't. Listen. Men that, to me, right? Because I have testosterone, I got nuts. I don't listen to other men's gossip. And a man that gossips to me don't have nuts.

That means he has a vagina. It's not gossip, though, because I'm telling you what they said. Tell me who said it. That's irrelevant. No, then you see where I'm from, you don't do that. If you want to deliver a message. But the point is you're here. No, I don't want to hear that.

You're lying. You're lying. Call out a name or you're lying. Call out a name. Be a man and call out a name or you gossiping or you chatty chatty chatty chatty questions for me man ask me a real question don't tell me what somebody else said what's the movie man the movie's losaitis you can get it at losaitismovie.com I directed it Daniel's in it

Smoke Dizz is in it Murder Mook's in it It's very realistic I'm very proud of what I've done Here let's take it off me for a second There is There is one thing I want to Bring up that disappointed me

So I do think we should all just Stick together Pause Even you and Envy? Definitely Whatever you need culturally A man is always entitled to have So I do think we should all just stick together. Pause. Even you and Envy? Definitely. Whatever you need culturally. A man is always entitled to have a difference of perspective. Okay.

Me and Daniel argue, not argue, we talk on the phone about perspectives loudly, often. Same. I hate to talk to you on the phone, man. I'm talking to him, though. Yeah, okay. I'm not just, you know what I mean? This is a guy that deserves that kind of conversation

because he's shown it by his actions. But whenever you can get positive advice, you got to take it. You know what I mean? So it might be hard. You might not want to deal with the controversial conversation, but if it's beneficial and you can learn from it and it elevates you, why not?

You know what I mean? Absolutely. I listen to everything. You might not like it, but you know, listen. Again, a man's allowed to have a perspective. That's why if I said you were stupid, that's why I said sorry. I don't have the right to disrespect you. And I didn't like the way it felt when you said you're being stupid.

I was like, you're not telling me. Well, I apologize to you. And it's cool. But my point is, what I was saying is we need to speak. You're not going to apologize to him? He did. Are you listening to your own show? What are you listening to?

It's all over the place, man. You don't even have headphones on, man. Neither do you. Your hat's too tight. Now listen. My problem was this. We have to stick together. And I'm sick of us as a culture not sticking together.

So I'm going to call somebody out from my culture. I'm calling out Spike Lee. He's doing the same thing I'm doing, like the Vimeo. And I had my local high yellow, Gabron Gadison, you know, he does all the technology. He went and reached out to him and talked to him and asked him like, we should link up and just talk. And he was like, you know, Damon's arrogant. And he didn't want to offer no help. He didn't want to sit down with me. And I just didn't appreciate that. And I just want somebody to ask Spike Lee why he don't want

to stick together. Pause. Like why he don't think I deserve a conversation when have I ever been arrogant with him and how can you not be successful if you're not confident in what you do but why we don't stick together like why is the first thing he would bring up is a fault of mine as opposed to you know what I mean like he's a great man I would want him to say

something good about me so I'm only airing it out in public cause I want it to be spoken about. So sometimes there's reasons to call out other men or talk about other men. Well, it's a direct experience I'm having. Okay. And I called his name out.

So if you want to tell me somebody says something and not tell me who said it, you're chatty patty. I'm just listening. I'm listening. Well, you was chatty patty. And learning. Okay. So you've had experiences with Spike Lee in the past?

No, I have no experience with him at all, but was up at the Nick game. And he came by my gallery once, but I don't think he came by on purpose. And once he found out, he broke out. He didn't hang out or nothing. And I'd just be like, yo, it would look cooler if we came through together. You know, if he did something and he taught me and I could say Spike Lee, I would rather my honest experience with another black man be positive

as opposed to it being like, damn, I reached out to just talk. Like I thought maybe I could help him. He's still raising money. He's Kickstarter. I put up my own money. He has a boss. No disrespect. And to the millions that have.

But my point is, I just want somebody to call out Spike Lee and ask him why that day he said that and why he didn't want to have a conversation with another black man that reached out for help. I thought maybe he could give me some guidance and we could link up. It just hurt my feelings. And also I wanted to bring up, here are the cookies, and I wanted to wait until we were on the radio to give them to you. Here's some cookies. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

You got some already? Trust me. Where's his dirt? Do you know the reason why you're wearing them angels on your neck? The reason I'm wearing them? For my kids? It represents my kids. You mean the style? Okay, do you know who did that first you jesus no me oh really yeah

ask kanye see what happened was i get the angels made of my kids i went to jacob the jeweler and then i was wearing the angel and then kanye was like yo i want to get an angel then i gave him my angel and he was like yo i'm gonna give it back one day he didn't but whatever he forgets that one i saw it but then everyone else you know what I mean so it's funny how sometimes you don't even know that that got designed

by me I designed it what's on your neck what represents your kids is cause I inspired that thought I made them to represent my kids

and you wearing two of those on your neck and I can show you the original one made and you can ask Kanye or Jacob DeJula

or any one of them about that story. It's good to see you and Kanye working together again too man. Can you trust him though? Because he openly admitted he was disloyal. My thing about trust is you can't trust anybody so you don't put enough into anybody where they're disloyal he can hurt you so there's nothing he can do to hurt me.

All he can do is be what he's been. He has a platform and a lot of people listen to what he say and as he's had that platform he's brought me into the equation by saying my name in an honorable way that's worth millions and i appreciate let me just say something here let me just put this in real quick this is daniel by the way just just for the record if you look at my man dame right because this is what i did the other day i looked at dame and i looked at all the people. I don't even have to call no names. I looked at all the people that started from him and then they moved on.

You know what I mean? Don't that mean a lot? Like for somebody to be able to bring people, like all the famous people that y'all talked about, the names that y'all talked about, and help get them to another level where they're able to help feed their family and feed other families. You know what I mean?

That's what it's about. It ain't about each other tearing each other down no more. Got to look at the bigger picture. You know what I mean? And that's all he's telling y'all. Like, when he's screaming at you, talking about you working for somebody, hopefully that'll make you say, you know what? Yo, Charlamagne, your pretty face. Like, you know what? Yo, Charlamagne.

Yo, pretty face. Like... Let me ask you a question. Hold on, hold on. Maybe we should go ahead... Maybe we should go ahead... There was a comment between that. ...and start our own joint.

You know what I mean? Because that's what it's about. And you think everybody ain't gonna follow y'all beat? Let me ask you a question. Like, people listening... Would you mind if I was your boss? Um, no.

So, can I hire you right now? If you got the right money, yeah. How much would it take for me I was your boss? No. So can I hire you right now? If you got the right money, yeah. How much would it take for me to be your boss? To do what? What do you do right now? I do a bomb on this job. What do you get paid to do? I'm a radio personality.

What does your boss pay you to do? Be a radio personality. Talk on air for four hours a day. Four hours a day. How much does he pay for that? How much you going to pay me? Yeah. You get that? Before you do going to pay me? Yeah. You get that?

Before you do it? For you? Yeah. Could you please stop throwing out numbers? I don't need to be trying to get people running up on me. I know you said you don't care, but do you think some people don't give you the credit you deserve for your business? Because it looks like, by perception, the people you were with went up.

The J's and Kanye's. They said you was down. I can say this. In front of me, everyone gives me my props. So all that I see is the respect in front of me. I don't hear about the disrespect that's not in front of me. See, like I said, people that talk about other people that aren't there are cowards, and they're insecure about the lack of things they've done.

So I just can't worry about that. But when those same people get in front of me, I'm sure I— Every day I'm outside. Every day people give me a handshake and give me my kudos. So I don't walk around getting denied. You may read it in the paper, but you got to think about the platforms that are saying the bad things. Those are the corporate platforms.

They're trying to take all the attention off one thing, which is me showing everyone how to get money direct to consumer, how not to have to have a middleman. Like, you guys don't need a boss because you've all been here so long. I want to know, was Big Al really going to sign the Rockefeller, man? I want to know stuff like that. Yeah, Big Al was going to sign the Rockefeller. Okay.

Yeah, we were talking about it. Like I said, Big Al was a Harlem dude, and he was the first one in Harlem that was really doing it at that level before all of us. So it was like Ham Cam and Bloodshed and Children of the Corn. I was trying to think about when Mase came around. Mase came around a little later, but it was them. You think Big L would have been one of them ones? No doubt. If he was coming with Rockefeller, no doubt. a little later, but it was them. And, you know, yeah. You think Big L would have been one of them ones?

No doubt. If he was coming with Rockefeller, no doubt. I mean, Big L was really, yeah. No doubt. No doubt. There's no doubt in my mind. Like, you know, Jay-Z and Big L battled on 139th Street. How did that go?

It was a good battle. Who won? Well, you know, I would have to say this. They were a battle together. Let me just tell you what happened. I like that. I like that. Battle.

So this is what happened. I came around the block. I had Jay with me. And, you know, Sean Arnold. You're from Harlem. Everyone knows Sean Arnold's a funny dude. He plays ball. He come running up the block.

What, Big L? Because we always talking. Big L's on the 39th right now. What's good? And I was like, what's good? So Jay was right there like, you ready? And I thought that was braver, Jay, to be in the middle of Harlem and walk up into a wild block like 139th this is you know back in the day so you know everybody was outside

and 142nd Street is the block I'm from but they were still with 139th you know because everyone's related so it was just me and Jay really and Jay they went rap for rap and Jay didn't get booed you know what i mean like people were saying it was a close tie so to me if you go on somebody else's block and it's a close tie if you did that on his block on your own block so that's how i gauged it but in hindsight you know i couldn't be objective because i had so much like at the time everything that jay was talking about was about what we were doing you know so it was so much passion and what he was saying. It was so honest.

But I knew Big L as well. You've got to remember, in the moment, you don't know how legendary things are going to be. That's what I'm saying. Even before the music, you wouldn't understand the people that raised me. I don't even understand it now. But in the moment, all these people,

I made movies about them. I made documentaries about them. These are all my friends. These are the ideals I came from. So, like, things that are scary to most people aren't scary to me. Because the stuff that people think is scary, I had to deal with.

Like, we had to deal with some rough stuff. You know what I'm saying? So you didn't have the vision back then? Because you said you didn't know y'all was going to be legendary. Meaning that I had the vision of not being, I didn't know that everyone was going to be legendary around me you know like malik yoba grew up in my my building i didn't know he was gonna it's all in retrospect when you look back like wow we all it's crazy trust me but also like you know when

you bring up names from the street like rich porter you know and things that i made movies about like i was there i made a movie about a personal experience and when you hear about crews from my foot village more I was there you know I mean like these are the guys I knew these guys guys write records about these guys and these are my friends they starting the ones that did it honorably you're starting to come home you know I was at the we did the screening at the club the other night um my man D Darren was there he was like original lieutenant of the lynch mob.

And it was funny because, you know, he's my man. When he was a lieutenant, me and him were friends. We used to switch cars, Jeeps, chains. And he did his time.

He was the guy that everybody thought was going to fold and was going to cooperate and he didn't. So he was telling me about how Leon's son is a rapper and that they

some other who called him out what another rapper Rex Rex called them out and they didn't know that he was in the background

I'm like you're the original lieutenant of the lynch mob and you're in a rap battle this is our conversation I don't wanna talk about that

man I wanna hear your book it's all public domain man I don't wanna know about this that. I mean, I want to hear your book. It's all public domain I want to know about this What I'm saying is the conversation I want to have with him is one that's gonna make chameleons Not one that's gonna be more like a chatty conversation. That's not the conversation That's on public record that I did the time for, right? And there's redemption in it.

And it shows that, you know, he got punished for what he did. Also, you have to remember. If he's speaking about other men, that don't make him chatty? He's talking about his own experience. Okay. See, you don't know what chatty is. I'm trying to figure it out, dude. And I'm trying to tell you, so you don't know.

So it's good. I like that you're asking questions. I like that you don't want to be a chatty patty. No, I don't. So you't unconsciously a chatty patty and now that you know that you are one you don't want to be one and you're asking i respect the question okay so yeah if i'm talking to you about my personal experience no how can i be a chatty patty but if i'd be like yo such and such said such and such but i'm not going to tell you who said it that sounds like a chatty patty got you yeah yeah are you in camera to open in the restaurant?

Yeah, that didn't work out. Oh, it didn't? I don't have time. That's a, I was doing, you know, I do things, businesses for fun. And it was, it didn't, I was, you know, like,

I'm doing four movies, paying it for myself. I moved to LA. I got the fashion. I got the Rachel Roy. You know, I got so many businesses. I just didn't have time to run that because I'd be losing money.

And it was like a complicated situation. So I opened up a couple of days and then I said it it was like this is gonna be too much work and I'm moving It's in Brooklyn. But um, my son opened up a restaurant called buns in the Meadowlands Dave if you're not in the streets anymore, do you still have to play by the street code in this business? I mean, I think the ideals that you live by is an honor code Dave, if you're not in the streets anymore, do you still have to play by the street code in this business? I mean, I think the ideals that you live by is an honor code. That code, yeah. Like, if somebody owes me some money, am I still punching them in his mouth? No, not that code.

Because I don't have to worry about how other people are perceiving me. So you've got to remember in the street, violence is only an ends to a means. It means to an ends. It's the last form. And the only reason why is for survival. So, again, in the street, if someone owes you money, then everyone's going to owe you money. If someone smacks you, everyone's going to smack you. It's the only reason why. It's marketing.

Like, pop, here's marketing for never owing me money. Or here's marketing for you never have to pay me. Or you could rob me. One of the two. And you don't have a choice. So that's why I chose not to be in that business. But my friends that play the game honorably, yeah, I still live by those ideals for sure. Like, let me tell you this.

Like, if there's a civilian in the street and they witness a murder and then they tell what they saw, that's not snitching. I'll be around that person. But if someone sold drugs and they hung out with friends all day long And once they get caught They tell on their friends And take their friends that they really love And they're supposed to be their brothers That they f***ing knew their kids

Away from their kids, their wives, all that Just so they don't go to jail I can't respect nothing about that And that's what I've been taught I'm going to always live by those ideas Whether I'm in the street or not. Whether you snitch on me or snitch on somebody else, I'm not f***ing with you.

Period. And that's how I was taught. And whoever knows that has to respect that. You can't expect me to break these ideals. Like, can I bring a guy that's played the game right for 20 years around someone that didn't? Or someone that hangs out with someone that didn't? No way.

You know? What happens? Honestly, though. If I came around our circle with someone that hangs out with someone that didn't. No way. You know? What happens? Honestly, though, if I came around our circle with someone that hangs out or any kind of way, anywhere near that, because you don't ever know who it is. Like, it be times I'd be with people,

and then after they'd be like, yo, he's hot. He cooperated. I'd be like, damn, I didn't know. Or it'd be times I had to be like, yo, that dude snitched on me. Like, blackface put this dude up that I had to... Anyway.

And I was like, yo, that kid went to court on me. You know, I got to that i had to anyway and i was like yo that kid went to court on me you know i gotta take that down he didn't know so sometimes you don't know but if you're conscious of it all right if i consciously bought certain you know someone that you knew was an informant or was around informants around any one of our circle how would that be conducted i mean you know it's it's the way you raise you know what i mean it's your morals and honor and morals it's not something you learn it's the way you raise. You know what I mean? It's your morals. And honor and morals is not something you learn. It's something that you're taught mostly. You know what I mean?

A lot of guys not taught to have honor. They don't know what it's like when you see a guy make an honorable act. You know what I mean? Like you watch somebody say somebody give their life for their family. That's honorable. It's hard to look at, but you say, damn, that's real. You know when you step in front of a bullet for your son or a car coming and you move your son and you get hit?

It's like that type of feeling. But it's, you know what I mean? People don't really. It's not easy to be honorable. Your honor gets tested every day. Only a real man can be honorable. And real men that are honorable take pride in it. So I brought somebody from my past.

You ask me about my perspective about me, I'm going to definitely tell you I'm a superhero. But if you really want to know about me, ask about what I did or how I was before all this. He could tell you because he knew me when I was 16, 17. You understand what I'm saying? I'm still with my friends. I know him 20 years and got cool with him just because he knew him 20 years.

So we 20 years. It don't matter. That's how Harlem does. And when Cam come around and when Smoke come around and anyone else from Harlem comes around, it's expected. We all look out. That's all we do. My block's your block as long as you ain't messing with my paper. I'm going to give you an opportunity.

If I got some room, you can go ahead and do what you got to do but only for a certain circle and this honor thing people don't understand it but it's a it's like a a curtain all over the world and people you'll know you'll know them like it's like right like you'll bring a certain we all know the same people and we all related to the same people and that's who taught me and that's who i listened to so like when i was on the set of too honorable what's too honorable it's a movie another movie i shot okay next movie which i'm getting busy i shot three movies and big shout out to smoky suarez to the comedian i'm about to uh i have a movie with him called mixed nuts balls um you remember uh what happened with toughy and i had? And I forgot what it was.

But I was getting ready to get mad, and I had the OGs around. So I'm like, I didn't have to get mad. Tell him what you just told me. I think because he had done something that said some slick shit, and I was his boss. So I'm like, tell him what he just told me. I thought you said you were the little buddy boss, though. I was Tuffy's boss.

I fired him. When the movie said I'm a boss. When I get into a cab, I'm the cab driver's boss. I'm paying him. Whoever's paying you is your boss at the time. For the amount of time he's paying you, that'm a boss. When I get into a cab, I'm the cab driver's boss. I'm paying him. Whoever's paying you is your boss at the time. For the amount of time he's paying you, that's your boss. If somebody's paying me right then and there, that's why it's hard for me to do shows.

Because that means somebody's paying me. I gotta be the promoter too. I just can't have somebody be my boss. So Leo Cohen was your boss? Never in life was he my boss. Ever in life. He was never my boss ever. He might have made someone like a Chatty Patty think

that he was my boss. But he never put up a dollar in his life. He was never a boss ever. He might have made someone like a chatty patty think that he was my boss, but he never put up a dollar in his life. He was never a boss of mine. He just represented someone else's money. And that's really what makes me mad is when other people from other cultures represent other money, they act like bosses, but they make sure we know they're our boss. So like Joey IE or Joey Amanda, whatever his name is,

he's the head of black music. Why is a white man the head of black music? And what does that have a black man feel? And what did he do to deserve that? What did Todd Moskowitz do to deserve the right to have a business model with asylum that takes money off of a culture that he doesn't participate in? How can a guy that can't dance tell someone else what records to sell and how unless it's for his own personal agenda.

And then why would people from other cultures tell us what to do, but they can't get no money in their own culture? Did Leroy Cohen break a rock and roll group that you know of? Why do more black people know about that white man than white people? Because he was with Jay-Z and you. No. That's not why. He wasn't with nobody.

He was a thief, Def Jam from Russell Simmons. That's what he did. And. He thiefed Def Jam from Russell Simmons. That's what he did. And then when they sold Def Jam to Universal, they kept Lior to run the name. And they let, what's his name? Russell. Russell had nothing to do with Def Jam.

That's what he did. There's always some white man in charge of black people. And there's always a white man that's not even from, and when I say culture, people that are like-minded, like Lior and Tom Moskowitz, they don't even live the culture. They don't listen to rap. When Michael Jackson came on the stage, Lior did not want to vote. He didn't care.

You understand what I'm saying? Well, to play devil's advocate, you got white people that work for you. No, you're playing devil. How do you know who works for me? You're a chatty patty, man. Stop telling me what, you're playing devil. How do you know who works for me? You're a chatty patty, man. Stop telling me what shit you don't know. You don't know who works for me, man.

How are you telling me who works for me? So, no, it's got to be. I'm assuming. I'm assuming. All right. I don't answer chatty patties. Ask me a man question. Do you have white people that work for you, Damien Dash?

At times. But... All right. How are you getting mad at me for asking a legit question? What I said is, no, you told me I did. I mean, I'm assuming. assuming No you don't assume that Cause When I'm saying at times Like

When again When I'm on a movie set And I'm paying Jonah Schwartz To be my DP And my cinematographer At that moment He's working for me But when you want a salary

Where you told what to do Every day and all that But I'm saying I'm not mad For being the boss Honestly I don't hire people I'm mad at y'all For having the same job for 25 years. That's what I'm mad at.

Like, I can't see how people do the same shit every day and get told what to do every day and have to ask when to go on vacation. I just can't. It doesn't. Guys like us don't do that. See, in the street, you hit a dude at work and you see him when you see him

at a certain period of time. He's like, however you get it, you get it. You got a structured schedule. You have to be told what to do. Could you do that? What? You know, I never had one in my life. You? Daniel went to school. That's me.

I'm not saying like... It's not a role or a job, though. You want to get ownership. No, no, no, no. This is America, the land of the free. You can be an entrepreneur. Jobs are for lazy people that don't want to invest in themselves. You got to start somewhere, dude. You've been here for 25 years.

No, I haven't. I've only been here for four. What are you talking about? But where else have you been doing radio? You just four years? No, no, no. I started in 98 as an intern. And I'm constantly working my way up.

What? I don't understand. I'm constantly working my way up. What? I don't understand. I'm on a different planet. See, you understand? It's frustrating because your perspective is different than mine. But you act like you never worked your way up to a position. You didn't just jump out of the tight room. I never had a job.

But you didn't jump out of the tight room that got the oil and everything. Yes, I did. I went and grabbed it. Yes, I flipped. From the womb? Yes, from the womb. I was Dame Dash the day I was born. But you didn't have everything that you have now from the womb, Dame.

That's all I'm saying. But the way I got it was not by a job. I got it by putting up my own money. And then the more it got, like, one day I have a lot of money. And then the next day I don't. You know why? Because I put it all in the street. People don't put it in the street.

They don't put their own money up. So you keep saying, yo, you just started. No, dog. I've always flipped. Yeah, but you know, some people make money legit. Well, some people, that's not me. Some people make money illegit. The way I flip is legit. Wait a second.

Look what I'm doing right now. So I make a movie, right? No side-eds. I put my own money up. I make the movie, and I bag it up in $10 bottles. And I sell it. Right. That's it.

There's the magic. Now I have a movie company because I put up the money to make it. And because I'm taking it and putting it out myself, as opposed to other people where people can just buy it right now at losaitismovies.com for $10 and I'm making money. So if I sell 25,000, I make $250,000. If I make, if I sell a hundred thousand, how much $250,000 if I make if I sell $100,000

how much do I make of $10 you know if I do $100,000 a million a lot a million I can see why

he didn't go to college he didn't go to college a lot actually you're doing really well you ain't got far you're doing well but little Tyrone as far as Gump over here

little Tyrone that just got out of school over here is. But Lil Tyrone, Lil Tyrone that just got out of school... Couldn't do that. How's he gonna get his money? He gotta stop somewhere. It's PayPal, dog. See? Listen, let's stop.

Lil Tyrone... No, no, stop, stop, stop, stop. Lil Ty... Wait, wait, wait. Stop, Lil Tyrone. Why is that the scenario you make? Is the Lil Tyrone scenario? Lil Tyrone...

Let's talk about you. What about you? Me. When I got out of college, I was doing mixtapes. I was a little different. Right, so let's start it. Now... I own my own mixtapes and stuff. Got you. You don't, I was doing mixtapes. I was a little different. Right. So let's start it.

Now, when I- I own my own mixtapes and stuff. Got you. You don't own your own mixtapes. You don't own the music. Right. See, you're in a fake existence, though. Okay.

You think you own- But the whole thing is because I start somewhere. No, you're not. You gotta get the money somewhere. Listen to me. How do you get money? You want me to ask you again? No, no, no.

I'm really curious. No, I'm really curious. Listen. Listen. I'm going to explain it to you. The difference between me and you is You have a job You started with a job You still have a job

Right? How do people start without having a job? Can I talk? How about this as men? Let's do the man thing I appreciate that So You have a job

Did you have a job 10 years ago? Yes You have a job now Yes Right 10 years ago I didn't have a job. Did you have a job 10 years ago? Yes. You have a job now? Yes. Right. 10 years ago, I didn't have a job. I started by selling records. But I made the records.

And I went through the process of doing it right. So, I had ownership in the records. So, I never had a job. 10 years later, I still don't have a job. How did you pay for studio time if you didn't have if you didn't have the job that's what I'm asking you how did you stop stop stop

I'm gonna tell you can I stop I'll give you the explanation how did you want the explanation and you're talking I'm asking you're talking you said ask

but you're not listening I'm listening how could you listen and speak at the same time go ahead see our perspective on things is different

so what I'm telling you is that was then right now you don't need a studio to make a record. All you need is a computer, which everyone has, Pro Tools and a mic. I haven't made a record in the studio in 10 years. You know this. So stop acting like that. Also, you don't need any money for knowledge. The problem is y'all don't take the time to listen. Y'all talk too much about gossip and not about what's going to... It's so easy.

It's the internet. So there is no excusing not being able to sell something on Vimeo or PayPal, which is what people do, and have an audience and make money off it. You can flip. So when you make more money

off... I'm not going to hold any money until I have a football team. I'm trying to flip all my money to get to a billion. So once I get to the football team, well, that was easy for you to say, dog, I just use my own money. And when I don't have it, y'all on the radio talking about me. Right. And when I do have it, you're asking me about other that I did, you know, 20 years ago. So you got it right now. No, I don't. I got the movies on the street. I'm never going to have it because as soon as I get it, it goes on the street. I don't put up money. Saving money is for suckers to me.

I have so much confidence in me that I flip. And 10 years later and 15 years later and 20 years later, I'm still a boss and you still got a job. Wait, maybe you might want to break the cycle. Because what's going to happen now? Your kid going to grow up wanting to be like who?

His dad. And what does his dad got? An honorable man. What does his dad have? What do you mean? Money in the bank. Stop. He's not talking to you.

What does his dad have? A job. Everything. You're not listening to me. Your father. Wait, listen to me. I'm listening. Answer me.

I'm trying to answer your question. But you're not answering my question. You're saying what you want. You have a job, so your son's going to want a job. He's going to think because his daddy has a job, he should have a job. Case in point. I don't have a job. My son Boogie doesn't have a job.

Right. That's all. I hustle for my kids. I don't want my kids to ever want to have a job. But if my son wants a job, there's nothing wrong with my son wanting a job. To me, it is. Could you explain this to me two days ago? I don't want my my son wanting a job. To me, it is. Could you explain this to me two days ago?

I don't want my son to call, to me, call another man boss is call another man daddy. Why? It's not for men to be told what to do by other men. That's just where Harlem is raised.

So yeah, you could go be calling somebody else boss, a man or whatever, and hustle for something that you can't pass to your son, but use the little money you get from what they get. Could you look at the margin?

If the radio company's making a billion, shouldn't you be making some of that? Like somewhere near that? It's not, it doesn't make mathematical sense. The people that are spending your money don't wake up this early. I guarantee you they don't go to work four hours a day and break their back for pennies on a dollar. Now, what do you think about people doing things for experience?

Like say Kanye making the transition into fashion and saying, I'm going to do an internship and get a job and work for somebody because I don't know how to do this. Or, yeah, your son said, I'm going to have my own, you know, we're opening up our own restaurant, our own store where we sell these cookies. But I need to go work someplace first so I can learn all the ins and outs of how everything operates. You think that's a smart thing to do? I think being an intern, for me, the best way to learn is to go put your own money up and do it yourself. To be honest. But like, Kanye is a legend in something else. So in that respect, yeah, you could do that. Because you know your kids is all right.

Because you were like, there are things like when I do art, I don't collect it for immediate money. It's not going to pay my kids bills now. But it might pay my kids bills now but it might pay my grandkids bills later you know there's certain things i do for like when i did nah i don't think i think you have to practice what you want to be i don't think rehearsing having being told what to do is is the best way to become a boss i think the best way to become a boss is to take 20 and go buy something like three shirts and sell them for, you know, and make it into 40. And like I've taught my son,

Lucky, I have a, the reason why I have a gallery is so a store front is so that my kid, Lucky could sell something, but not drugs. So in the summertime, he sits in front of the gallery and sells hats and goes to the store and he learns how it feels to make money on its own.

And he knows that he could sell something, make a margin. And then he takes the money that he makes and he has to take store, and he learns how it feels to make money on its own. And he knows that he can sell something and make a margin, and then he takes the money that he makes, and he has to take me, Ava, and Raquel to eat for the day. So when he stays with me, I make him. He can't eat. We eat cereal, and we can't eat until he sells a certain amount of hats. I agree with that. But you can't do that in someone else's store.

No, no, I agree with that. Let me finish. And now with my daughter same thing she got us this is ava she got to sit there but it was look what i get to see i'm sitting out there with me and rocky and some little punk you know little dude come up like i don't know what poppin is but can i have your number and i get to yell at the guy i would never let my dude my my daughter bring home a corny ass dude like you with ashy ankle like all that and then i get those experiences with her and i get to see how people taking her serious like she gets to see all those things

with me so i agree i have a gallery in china so what did i do i brought boogie and i brought uh ava to china so she's 15 14 years old she already been to china boogie already dj'd in in china i brought rocky showed her her art all over in china already when you own stuff you can do what you want with it I got a club how many parties we do this week Like three right? I just came been home a week every day screenings in the club just cuz I own it Lenora I don't want a piece of it. A little piece. It's a nose club. Lenore's nose club. But I agree with that. I think we all should do that.

So mentality-wise, to stop the cycle for your kids, yeah, you don't want your kid to think his hero should have a boss. Superman didn't have a boss. Batman didn't have a boss. So I want my kids to look at me like a superhero. How can a superhero be told what to do? Are you a superhero to your kid? Absolutely.

Not when your boss is in the room? No, I'm still there. No, you're not. Well, we're going to be on a different level. Mostly because there's a difference because I don't have to. I don't do anything because I have to. Man, if y'all don't, I don't care. No, it's the truth.

But I agree with you. It doesn't make logical sense. Are you going to put the money up for Mook and Drake to battle? You're going to put that together? If Drake will step up, we'll organize it. I'm sure amongst my Harlem friends we can get that up. Of course. The thing is, I think Drake made a fundamental mistake in battling.

He challenged Mook. See, in the street, you can't challenge somebody and take back the challenge. So now that, and this is from what I've heard, so it ain't no disrespect to Drake, but I think he said something on emotion on a business level. His people told him, yo, you got too much to lose. So what I told Mook was, Drake's not going to value you until you're richer than him. And that'll be next week.

Did I not? Yeah. Until Drake has something to lose, he's not going to. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't advise. It's like going to a dice game where you got a million in your pocket and it's only $100 between everybody. You know, that's how they're looking at it.

Like, you ain't got nothing to win. He wants to do it though. He wants to do it, but I think he's being advised not to. But whenever he's ready. I like the way Floyd did it with Pacquiao. He let everybody talk and then he actually made sure that it was done correctly by having a direct conversation, no chatty patty ones, with Pacquiao and then it happened.

And the timing is right. So when it's time for... I almost would prefer them to battle when he has more to lose. Because right now, if I'm Drake, see, the way I do when I challenge somebody, I think I put my eyeballs in their eyeballs, you know, in their skull. So if I'm Drake, I'm like, I'm not battering him more to move. Nobody really knows him but people that battle.

And if he wins, now he's the underdog. You never fight the underdog because you have nothing. If he wins, he's Drake. If he loses, now he's the guy that beat Drake. But if Mook is bigger than Drake and they both are making money doing other things, that's a battle. So I don't anticipate, we could talk about it all day, but as a strategic thing, if I was in his camp, I wouldn't advise Drake.

I would say, yo, stop talking when you're drunk. And let's make money. You know what I'm saying? And I'm sure someone older than him said that based on his actions, but when he's ready, as gentlemen, I think we should have a battle, and I think it would be just as big as Pacquiao and Floyd. But you

have to be Pacquiao before you fight Floyd. And technically, Floyd was a little chatty-patty, because he bought up the fact that Pacquiao may be on steroids. Pacquiao, just like you were saying, boss, I'm Floyd in what I do. Period. Tell him. Okay, stop. You have more money than Floyd? It don't matter.

This is what I do. It's not an argument. It's a perspective. That's for people with love. What I'm saying is Floyd, no one listened to Floyd until he was rich. Floyd wasn't Floyd until Floyd beat the other Spanish dude. What's his name? That Pacquiao beat.

What's his name? Chavez, right? No, no, no. Delahoya? Delahoya. Until Floyd beat. Because I was the first person to sponsor Floyd. I always knew he was going to be great.

So I used to put rockware on him a long time ago. I used to come to my house and all these kind of things that we would talk. But no one would pay attention to Floyd until Floyd had something to give them. So you're not Floyd until you got money like Floyd or the money a champ had. You're going to have money like Floyd. But Pacquiao,

you're not Pacquiao. When I say until you're Pacquiao, Floyd wasn't listening to Pacquiao until Pacquiao beat all these people. Then he became Pacquiao. So you're Paki out Floyd wasn't listening to Paki out till Paki out beat all these people then he became Paki out so you starting as a person that's from the street you don't have as much money as someone that's successful yet but they're not going to fight you till you have as much or more than they do they're not going to fight you until they have something to gain it's a one-sided situation in this fight right now to him him, he's saying he has an art of war. He's like, all day he battles.

Like, when we're on the set, like, I'll keep him. I don't want to come because he always wants to figure it out. And, you know, that's what we do. And right now, for the sport, he's like, I need to show, you know, he challenged him. But Drake's not in it like that. You know, for the sport, he wants to do it. But Drake, he's making a lot of money

doing shows if you kill him he's not gonna make no more money doing shows you could f*** his career up like that so he's not gonna f***

his career up unless it's way more on the line you killing him you killing him the point I was making though is that I understand

but that's like if I he coming into what I do right so what and what I do you the best I, he coming into what I do, right? So what I do. You're the best. I'm the best in what I do. Talk skill set.

So if he coming in, I don't care what kind of money he got. I agree. You don't, but what does he care? Be him for a second. But he should have said nothing. So if you in my field. Do me a favor. Pretend you him for a second.

Stop being you. If you in my field. But what's he saying? Now, be Drake. And I'm your manager. I can't be Drake. He think he nicer than him with the skill set. So you can't But what's he saying? Be Drake. And I'm your manager. I can't be Drake. He think he nicer than him with the skill set.

So you can't even think how he thinking right now. He's not thinking like you. He's thinking like Drake. So you mad at him for thinking not thinking like you. Drake doesn't have a mustache. You do.

Because he did say something like he don't know if you deserve it yet or something like that. Yeah, but then after that, after that, we was in Toronto. When he said that,

I was in Toronto. You know said that, I was in Toronto. You know what I'm saying? So I wasn't at the actual press event because I went to the game and all that. But the next day, it was a battle at the joint. And I was there. He was there. And they came to me like, yo, listen, if we could get Drake to do one round right now, would you? Now, this is with no warning, no nothing.

You know what I'm saying? And I'm just like, free? That's the first thing I'm like, yo, free? I'm like, let me speak to him. You know what I'm saying? So I go speak to him, and he's like, yo. That was the picture we saw. No, the picture, that's when it first started.

The picture is when it first started. This just happened like two weeks ago. Okay, okay pictures when it first started this just happened like week two weeks ago Okay, you know I'm saying and he like yo This is when almost with the battle almost happening. He just like yo, um, I'm like you got rhymes don't you? But it's cool though, I'm like, you know I'm saying you got you got you got rhymes I'm like, yeah, I ain't really got no rhymes right now for you. He's like, you know, but, you know, he start going into this shit. Like, you know, I just figured, like, what are we even here on this earth for if we can't, you know, we can't. That's why I set up.

Yeah. So I'm like, you know what? I said, give me an hour. Cool. Give me an hour. I'm going to go come up with some. Trust me. Give me an hour.

Now, mind you, I was already drinking. I was there for five hours. They seen me for five hours already. So then after the hour, they came back. I'm like, yo, tell them it's on. Like, let's do it. So it looked to all possibilities it was about to happen, like right then and there, spur of the moment.

And then five minutes later, they was like, yo, his management was like, no, he can't do it. Yeah, of course. A Holland dude can do that. You can't ask somebody for a fan when they back up. Can't do that. But, again, they from two different places. But this reminds me now, I can tell you about a parallel example of how I can see the perspective.

So when Nas had the ether out, and I don't know what happened, but I was at Arizona shooting a rockwear campaign. And when I landed, I heard Super Ugly. When I landed, and I was sick. And I was like, what the fuck happened? You didn't advise that. I did not say that was all right. So, oh, me and Irv Gotti.

Irv Gotti. So I called Irv. I'm like, Irv, why the fuck did you, I call Irv I'm like Irv why the f*** did you you know all this kind of stuff that we don't do and

I wish I could have rewinded it to like why y'all didn't call me so I could have told you not to do that you understand what I'm saying so in the moment

an artist who's inspired is gonna he's gonna try to fight but he must have had somebody there that jay didn't have that day because that was the only elbow we really took that was the beginning

of the end really you know because we were unstoppable before that but he messed up but someone should was there to tell jake like you bugging it's not going to ruin you today you drinking you know i mean someone older or smarter than him probably gave him the right advice because i wouldn't advise would you have advised advised Jay to reply to Ether at all? Or just leave it at takeover and Ether? See, at the time, I felt like we were winning. You know, because we had done the Michael Jackson thing. And we had called them out.

So, to me, he was talking hearsay. Like, our thing, when I battle, my crew, who I'm with, I like to tell the truth. I don't like to say who says the funniest punchlines. The bottom line is we professional, so let's just say true things. So I thought the stuff that Nas said was dope. But I think he emotionally got a J because he was inviting him to his door. It was a little chatty-patty. Yeah.

So I was like, yo, you just got caught up in gossip. You don't have to answer gossip. If he says something real, like he dame, dummy, dame, I thought that was dope because he said my name. But everyone knows I'm not dumb. That's obvious. So I'm not going to reply to that. You know what I mean? I'm going to be happy he said it.

So I thought, like, he should let it rock out. That's why he did it when I wasn't around. You know what I mean? So I thought we had played it fair. And I don't care if other people think someone wins. All I care is if I think I won and, I won and I did it right and played the game. So I didn't think it was necessary. You know what I mean? But if he was going to do it, it wouldn't have been

like, I wouldn't have chatty-pattyed him. So that's why we lost. You see, when you start more gossip, you end up doing things that aren't honorable and you end up apologizing on the radio the next day. But WWW, low side of the movie, don't forget, make sure y'all pick that up.

You know what I mean? We losing focus with all this other bubble gum shit, but, you know, that's why we here. We want to promote it. Tell them about the movie one more time. I mean, the movie is, you know, it's basically right now we still in progress, and it's a lot going on in the movie. But, you know, it's about my man Murder Moop. He's from Harlem. He catch a body. You know what I mean? Police looking for him Mook. He's from Harlem. He catch a body. You know what I mean?

Police looking for him. He can't hustle in Harlem no more. So he have to come down to the Lower East Side. Come down to the Lower East Side. You got a lot of guys. You know, everywhere you got guys. It's not much of a getaway, though. Well, it really is.

He catch a body. It's about what he's all about. It really is, though. In Harlem. In Harlem. So the Lower East Side guys, they don't want to see him down there. And he have to fight to get his proper perspective on the Lower East Side and his position. So everybody is like, you know, that's like I come to the block.

I'm not from. You know what I mean? And everybody like, yo, we don't want this kid down here. We're going to make sure we do whatever we got to do to get him out of here. And in the game of hustling, you know what that means. They're going to try to shoot you, rob you, kill you. You know, it's just what it was. So, you know, Mook, he stood tall in the joint like a Harlem dude, you know, like a Brooklyn dude or like a Queens dude.

And that's another thing. All that dividing up the boroughs and all that shit is over with. It ain't like my man said a long time ago. It ain't where you're from. It's where you're at. You know what I mean? When did the movie come out? When did the movie come out?

I mean, you know, Rock Kim said that a long time ago. When did the movie come out? The movie's out. You can buy it right now. So you did it in segments, right? Well, the way I'm putting it out to the rest of the world is in segments, but you can buy it in its entirety in segments right now. So I wanted to have that feeling,

but then I'm going to put it out in another variation in the whole movie theatrically. So basically my thing is to have a direct to consumer relationship you know cut the middleman out completely and have at least have my money made back before i put it out the regular way before i start you know giving up my margin for traffic but i will put it out it will be on itunes it will be in theaters it will be on demand it will do all that other stuff but first the people that I know direct can get it directly from me at losaidasthemovie.com. Spell it for them.

L-O-I-S-A-I-D-A-S. I said it. I said it. I did it. I did it. L-O-I-S-A-I-D-A-S. Yeah. Losaidasthemovie.com. When you writing a book, Dave? I'm writing it. I also have a book. I have a book called Culture Vultures.

You got to go do it. Yeah. I already did it. What's it called? It's called Culture Vultures. Have you ever looked at the hip-hop motivations that I do? Yeah, absolutely. So me and Kenyatta did a book, and it's already written.

He wrote it. We done with it, and I'm also giving it out in different ways, so it's going to be an auditory experience as well. So right now, you can order it from PoppingtonGroup.com which is like my Netflix and you can order the first chapter of me saying it like a record and then you'll get the first five chapters

as a record and you also get it in the visual like a movie and you're also going to get it as a book. But you can get that right now. Pre-order for $5 at PoppingtonGroup.com Where Envy? And then I'm going to hire Envy. Dame wants to know.

I'm going to hire you. Yo, hold on. There's no way I'm not going to hire you. Dame wanted to know, Envy, how much respect you have for him. Would you let him get the Jordans? Would you let him get the Jordans or you want to keep them? Are we the same size? No, what happened was, yeah, your man's out there.

He got the Jordans. Right. And he was like, I got only 10s, and Envy got them. So if Envy don't want them, you can have them. I was like, oh, that's my man. I know Envy would pay me the proper respect and let me buy them. I don't know. Maybe before the interview.

Yeah. See, I knew you would do that. I knew you would do that. He wouldn't even buy them. I'm not lying. You're his boss, so I'm sure you know. Not yet. Not yet.

Not yet. But if I, I'd rather be, honestly, I wouldn't want to be But if I I'd rather be Honestly I wouldn't want to be your boss I'd rather be your partner And I would rather like Us do a book Do a movie

Do a doc You know I would throw down If you want On a radio show To syndicate That has a new name Why don't we just

You know You're Clue's boss though right Yeah I mean like I said Shall we stop it Clue used to be Clue used to be signed to To Rockefeller You was Clu's boss though, right? Yeah. I mean, like I said. Shall we stop it? Clu used to be signed to Rockefeller, but he had his own career as a DJ.

So I wasn't his boss for DJing, but I did cut the check. And as representing Rockefeller for the records that we made. You think you could do for another DJ what you did to Clu? Because Clu was like, he went platinum. I can make anybody famous. That's easy. That's easy. That's easy.

You know, because I only deal with honest people that do, you know, I just know authenticness and people buy that and I give it a platform. You know what I mean? But like I was saying, if y'all want to do something other than the, what's the name of what you own? My show? No, no. It's the Breakfast Club. You don't own the Breakfast Club.

We don't, there's no name. All right. So you own the no name. So can we have a name and we can do something together and i'm down i'll do a movie with y'all i'll do something with you you know and and i was just thinking like revolt if puff owns revolt he's from harlem that's my channel okay maybe i'm being chatty but i just saw the uh because you asked me a question yeah you said that uh diddy wouldn't First of all, I don't call him Diddy. I don't know.

Whatever, whatever. He wouldn't clear Big to be in the Brooklyn's Finest video. Puff would not clear. Yeah, he wouldn't clear it. So why would you do business with him? I didn't say do business. I said I want to use his network. Oh, okay, okay.

You got to listen, Chatty Patty. www.lowsideofthemovie.com This is the longest interview we've ever done But I'm Chatty Patty You're asking me questions But hopefully it was informative You don't even feel the time I was trying to, but you know You was asking me about something

You were like such and such Such and such Such and such That's what I'm talking about with him See, now he got y'all talking about doing your own thing That's what it's about, though You feel me? Empowering each other, even through controversial conversations.

But it's not. It's just a difference of perspective. That's what I'm saying. Exactly. Men can have conversations. Absolutely. Men ain't got to fight over that. You know what I mean?

I didn't disrespect. Once it was like, oh, you stupid, I was like, but I might have said it. So I was like, my bad. And if I did, that's not what I'd do. And you offered cookies after that. No, I get his cookies. I know I'm going to come the other day. I'm like, his cookies. Everybody just give me. You not what I do and you offered cookies after that yeah it's cookies I know I'm gonna come y'all

I'm like it's cookies everybody just give me you know what I'm saying it's a little early for cookies but I've been munching on them joints it's crazy

and you know also and the respect that I'm always have for y'all is that y'all been in the game so long

so there's always a brothership we gonna have just cause I knew you 20 years ago regardless of whether we was on the same team, we on the same team

because we in hip hop and my thing is love. It's not about knocking motherfuckers down. It's about helping them get up. So I'm going to tell you your faults, which usually makes people mad,

but then I'm going to say, but I'm not only going to tell you, but I'm going to help you get without, like, you can have this life and it's cool, but let's do something different. Are you allowed to do other things?

Absolutely. All right, so. But we are, though. It's not like we're limiting. All right, but I'm saying with me, what I'm saying is this. I'm not going to just talk, and I'm saying, look, I'll do something with y'all.

What y'all want to do? Y'all want to work with me, or y'all scared? Let's do a deal right now. Let's do it. I'm not scared. What you want to do? I don't know, Dave. I feel like anything we do won't be good enough for you.

Shady Patty, I'm not asking. What do you want to do? What do you want? What y'all want to do? Let's do it. You want to do something? We'd like to do an animated series. Bet. Let's do it. When good enough for you. Shady Patty, I'm not asking. What do you want to do? Let's do it. You want to do something? We'd like to do an animated series. Bet.

Let's do it. When the hell did you come up with that idea? That's a dope one, though. That's a dope one. Hey, if it's a little bit of a joke. What's your name on it? We're going to have a name. I can't do that because that's a verbal contract.

You're not holding me to that? I don't know. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. It's the breakfast club. It's the breakfast club. He bumped his head somewhere. Had enough of this country?

Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory.

Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show,

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Fast, bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different, inspiring figure from history,

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