The Breakfast Club - Damn If I Do, Damn If I Don't ( J.Cole Opens Up and Justin Timeberlake DUI)

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

This episode starts with a real check-in — slowing down, getting honest, and asking yourself how you’re actually doing behind the scenes of the grind. Then we get into J. Cole finally spea...king out, unpacking the pressure, the apology heard around the culture, and what it really feels like to grow while the world is watching. From social media noise to standing on what feels right, it’s a deeper look at choosing peace over perception. Plus, Justin Timberlake’s bodycam footage surfaces after his DWI arrest — and it sparks a bigger conversation about accountability, privilege, and why some lessons need to be seen, not just said. It’s honesty, growth, and a little discomfort — the kind that actually changes you.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:14 Thursday, March 26th. Eddie 7th Central. And listen on IHeart Radio Stations across America and the free I heard off. I'm the homeguard that knows a little bit about everything and everybody. You know if you're going to lie about that, right? Lauren came in hot. Hey y'all, what's up?
Starting point is 00:03:33 It's Lauren LaRosa, and this is another episode of the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your deadly dig on all things, pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. So let's check in behind the scenes of the grind. Back on the grind. So we do the check-in behind the scenes of the grind here at the latest with Lauren the Rosa because I literally have always said one of the things that I am horrible at is sitting down being still checking in on myself and sometimes checking in on people because everything's
Starting point is 00:04:06 always moving so fast. You're always trying to keep up with things. Not even just the news, but the news, just life in general. And sometimes what I've noticed, you know, I had a season of my life where like I really had to sit down sit still wasn't much shaking um you know my mom was healing from some things grandma too and that was probably like the most calm my life has ever been but in all of that stillness I feel like it was like a message like I feel like God I always remember this time period I feel like God was was trying to show me all the things like all those small pockets that I'm like blind to and that I miss because my life moves so fast because you know I'm living in L.A., New York, all these big, fast-moving places.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I work a job that requires me to be away from family and friends a lot. And even when they are close, they're kind of in the mix of all of my craziness and all my fastness. And being at home in Delaware for about a year and a half, maybe two, I got to see, you know, so much that I was missing with family, with friends, with myself, honestly. That was the biggest thing. Like, when I really sat down with myself and I had never done that, you know, But before it was the, you know, the big jobs, it was college.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Before it was college, it was trying to get through high school and working jobs to help, you know, mom and just figure out what was happening after high school. And, you know, like, coming into yourself as an adult is a magical thing because, you know, you really get to understand, like, why the world needs you. Going to an HBCU, shout out to Delaware State University, did that for me. But also the household I was raised in did that for me as well, too. Like my mom always taught us about like how like how much of a gift we were in any and everything that we did and in and you know how prepared we were to be that. She always spoke to us as if, you know, every in every and anybody was lucky to have us. And I know that her doing that was her preparing us for the world because once you get out in the world, baby. Especially as a black woman.
Starting point is 00:06:11 They definitely try and humble you. But that period of stillness was probably the first. time since, you know, being younger and not having all the things moving and, you know, this place, that place, that I had that time. And I realized in that time how much I just wasn't checking in on myself, like literally. And in the people I love, but also just on myself. And I keep emphasizing on myself because I think a lot of times when people talk about checking in or checking up on is always someone else. And that's great. And you should do it. I make a habit now. And I'm not the best at everyday fun.
Starting point is 00:06:45 calls but we never just say like oh i'm a check up on me like you know so me doing that daily on this podcast especially because you guys listening to me um well i don't know what day you're listening to me hopefully you make me a seven day a week thing you repeat some episodes but i know that we publish our episodes on the week days so during the week it's it's really really hard to take a minute and check up on yourself right so me doing that in this podcast um with the behind the scenes of the grind check-in is a habit-building thing for myself and hopefully for you guys, my lowriders, as the listeners, so that, you know, while our weeks are busy and you're in school, you're at work, you're being mom, you're being dad, wife, husband, girlfriend, you know, employee, employer,
Starting point is 00:07:29 you know, all of the things, whatever the things may be for you. When you listen to this podcast, I hope when I say, all, y'all, let's check in behind the scenes of the grind and I'm checking in on me. You were checking in on yourself as well too. there was a young lady actually who wrote me on Instagram. I'm going to try and find this message. So I want to shout out one of our lowriders, one of our listeners. Her name is Amma Promise on Instagram. That's Amma A-M-A underscore Promise on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And she was outside in the streets and the tweets. And I say that because that's what we talk about whenever I hear from the listeners on social media. And she DM'd me. And she said, good morning, Lauren. I don't know if it was Tuesday or Monday's episode, but I listened to your breakfast club segment on my Alexa. And you're being very transparent and talking about how you've been running late the past few days and you're naturally a punctual person.
Starting point is 00:08:24 She's talking about the episode of the latest with Lauren Rose of the podcast. But because it's the same on the Breakfast Club, I think that's why she said it like that. And please go back and check out this episode. I'll get the date of what episode this was because I remember this day. I was talking about because I've been through a season of stillness, and I'm kind of back jolted into like, you know, everything moving so fast. And it's like times a thousand because the breakfast club is like, it has been the biggest blessing in my life.
Starting point is 00:08:50 It's such an amplifier, but it's a lot to get used to the pace of it, right? I was talking about just remembering everything I learned in my season of stillness so that I can take control of my day and not let my day take control of me. And I had to do that the other day last week, actually. She said, how you've been running late the past few days and you're a naturally a punctual person. And also some words from your pastor that you've remembered. reflected on shout out to pastor Jerome Lewis at a Seeds of Greatness in Delaware.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I just wanted to say that the genuine anointing of God on your life was so apparent to me in your testimony. You weren't saying anything grand or complex, but it was real. At the end of it, I stopped and set a prayer for you. Thank you for that, sis. And in me, because I felt like you were talking about me. Praise and worship is so important. Being confident of this very thing.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Being in this, oh, I'm sorry, this is a scripture. Being confident of this very thing that he which has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day Jesus returns. She says, I pray that you continue to submit yourself to the will of God and whatever your venture you continue with the best of your ability. May the love of Jesus Christ always cover you. And I just wrote her and said, thank you. That's what I want these check-ins to be in the beginning of the podcast. Like, I talk to y'all about a lot. I talk to y'all about a lot of people business and, you know, the conversations. And we get into the things here. But I think it's so important to understand kind of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:09 just how you are feeling that day. It's like when you call somebody before you unload on them, you know, you got the friend who's like the best listener. And shout out to, I have two friends that come to mind when I think of that. Sharon Fontaine, share the beat, share the beat beauty. She's like one of the best makeup artists in Delaware. She shared a beat beauty on Instagram, everywhere else. And I have a friend that I grew up with. Her name is Jorna Henry. She does sisters who bake 2.0 on Instagram. She bakes and does desserts. And also people have always been like the most non-judgmental, heartfelt listeners I've ever experienced in my life. But when I went through that season that I keep talking about, like that season of stillness,
Starting point is 00:10:53 I realized how much we don't even like, like in checking up on myself and knowing when I wasn't feeling okay but still taking everybody stuff and answering the phone for people or whatever, I realized it's not even on purpose, but I realized how much we unload on people who might have their own things. going on in their own things happening. So you know how it is when you call somebody and you're like, hey, are you in a, like I said, you're in a mood or are you in an okay space where I can kind of dump a little bit on you? Like I do that now every since then, right? And that's kind of like what I want to open into this podcast to always feel like.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Like, all right, let's check our energy. Let's check our spirituality. Let's check our flow, our mental, take a deep breath, talk about what we're excited for. Let's, you know, let's check our posture a little bit. bit before we get into all the things that you know we get into. So yes, that is the behind the scenes of the grind segment. Shout out to the lowriders who are listening and checking in with me when these opening segments really hit you guys. I want to hear from you. I'm Lauren La Rosa everywhere. L-O-R-E-N-L-O-R-O-S-A. Now let's get on into the latest.
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Starting point is 00:12:27 Listen to the Honest Talk podcast on IHeartRadio or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Good people. What's up? What's up? It's Questlove. So recently, I had the incredible opportunity to have a real real. conversation with actors and producer Jamie Lee Curtis ahead of the release of her new thriller series, Scarpetta. I can honestly say I've never done an interview like that before.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You know, at one point I shut my laptop down. And we just started chatting as old friends, recent Oscar recipient. So we have some commonality there. I predicted that, by the way. And you said these words to me, dust off your mantle. Yes. And I looked at you and I said, what? And you said, dust off your mantle.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And then I left and that was it. And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to, like, write you and go, how did you know? Listen to the Questlove show on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in someone's, correct? I doctored the test ones.
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Starting point is 00:16:29 But I don't know, I feel like every time I hear him talk about how motivated and inspired he is since dropping it, I just don't believe that it's going to be his last album. I feel like he has so much more to say. I just think he had to realize it himself and realize how, you know, like just reconnect as an artist. And his interview serves to prove that. So he sat down with Nadeska, you know, female journalist in the hip-hop and music space. for Apple Music.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Interview was about an hour and a half long, but he detailed so much. The setting of the interview, they are back in Fayetteville in the Carolinas. He's literally in his childhood home, which he now owns and has it set up. Still, you know, very similar to how it was when he grew up. It's almost staged as like a museum, honestly.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And when the interview opens, like when you see them, they're walking into his home and there's a gate outside of the house. And he talks about the fact that fans come and literally, sign, you know, the gate. So this is a very safe space for him. And he sets the tone. Like, we do in the beginning of our episode, he sets the tone for home and space and the importance of that in the very opening of the interview.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Let's take a listen to that. Yeah. Yo, I can't believe this album actually came out. What are we now? Like, a month and some change removed. Some people told me, like, yo, they're driving, like, from New York to Miami, and they'll see the Fayetteville exit, and they, like, just get off. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:52 They come, like, take a picture. They'll sign. You know what I mean? Some of these are faded because they've been here for Madelong. So this is actually the beat machine that you got on Layaway? This is the one. I don't know if it's the exact one because somewhere along the line we had to buy another one. But it's not because we lost the original.
Starting point is 00:18:09 It's just because something else we were doing, we needed it. So somewhere along the way, they might have got shuffled. So I don't know if this is the one we bought it was the original. But that is the same style at the very least. It might be the exact same one that I had, yeah, that my mom got. Like we waited, what, 10 years for this album and to be able to celebrate it here with you at 2014 Forest Hills Drive. I feel like I'm in a J-Cole museum. And you said that you were going to step out of your comfort zone, which is home, to have some conversations.
Starting point is 00:18:40 But you found the loophole and still invited us into your home. That's a good point. That's a good point. And I am out of my comfort zone. I ain't going to lie because I can feel it right now. I'm like, oh, man, I'm nervous. You know what I mean? strangely enough, but I'm nervous because I'm, you know, I yon, that last time I did an interview,
Starting point is 00:18:55 you know what I mean? And then he starts to talk about how, you know, at one point, his love for home and Fayetteville and coming back home, you know, once he was away for college and got a deal and, you know, all that. It just started to die and it started to change and that was a scary thing. Let's take a listen. On run a train, there is a line where you say something like, you know, phenomenon. you're in my heart, but I can start to feel the flame dying.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And for Cole fans, like, we have been hearing you talk about Finnville, like, Vilomatic, like everything for so long, that actually hearing that, that line really hit me. No, that's real. That's real. You want me to talk about that line? Yeah. First of all, when I went away to school, when I left Fayette, everyone went to New York, I love coming home. Like it was one of the, of course I love New York.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It was amazing to be up there, but like, I really look forward to getting back home and I was missing home. So any type of three day weekend we had, like in school, it's like, I'm driving home. I couldn't wait to come home. And just a party at the same parties I was going to, but I didn't want to miss nothing. I wanted at least be home. And that lasted throughout my 20s, really, like, especially when we first, like, you know, then I'm in college. We coming back.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Then I got a deal. We coming back and it's more lit in a different level. You know what I mean? Because it's like, I'm back in Fayneville and it's like, yo, we got action and activity. And it's like the love is different. But there was a point where. I started coming back home and it felt different to me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like, it was heavy when I was coming back home. It was like a burden, whether imaginary or real, it was like a burden that I felt in a heaviness and almost a darkness. And like, whether it's in a form of like bad news, violence, it also was a time when this shit was getting really bad. You know what I mean? Like everything you hear is like, yo, this shit is worse now.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It's dangerous now. And it was like, you know, very sad stories coming out of the city. On top of that, there would be like such a such sad, such and such a bunch about you. Yo, you ain't here? Why is it? You know what I mean? Like these situations of people around the city that has something to say about it. Now, the reason why I think that that was such an important conversation for him to have in the opening of this interview is because I think it really explains the backdrop of why the fall off took so long.
Starting point is 00:21:15 You know, he says eight plus years he had been working and teasing this. album. But I also think it shows you guys just a little bit about, you know, as a person, regardless if you're a music artist or whatever you're just, you can have, you can be a doctor, lawyer, I don't care where you work at, whatever you do. At some point in your life, everybody experiences a growth, a growth and a change in your life where it's like you really can't control it and you can't anticipate it, it's just things are changing. You're outgrowing things that you used to love, places you used to love, like conversations you used to love and you used to entertain. And it's happening in a way where you can't stop it if you tried. And the best of us
Starting point is 00:22:03 don't run from that, right? Not the best of us, but I think people who really want to grow and who really want to, you know, it's uncomfortable as hell. But people who really want to grow and who really want to be uncomfortable, we lean in and we let the growth happen. But there's something that happens just mentally that kind of disconnects you from everything that you were comfortable with and you have to get comfortable again in a different way. And hearing him talk about this, for me, I'm like, okay, so as an artist, that, it puts your mind just in such a different space, right? Because it's like everything you thought was so great at one point. You now looking at it like, what? Like, that's corny. And he was going through that battle while trying to record the falloff
Starting point is 00:22:48 and everything that came before. It might delete later and just, you know, all these different things. So I'm like, okay, now I have a better understanding because at one point I felt like, and listen, like I love J. Cole. I have nothing against him. I'm not like the diehard J. Cole fans. Like, I know there are people out there that when you say, it's like certain celebrities, when you say you're a fan of them, you got to be like doubting. Like, J. Cole, Drake, Nikki Minaj, Beyonce, their fans are like, literally, they grew up, live and breathe everything, every project, every word, every, you know what I mean? Like, so when I say I'm a Jay Cole fan, I'm not that level of Jaycoe fan, but I do like his
Starting point is 00:23:27 music. And I do follow his career a bit because I love how vulnerable he is and just how, like, relatable he is. And, you know, it was just my time period. Like being in college and listening to Cole and like, you know, watching his rise from, like, he has a story I can't relate to. Like he moved to the big city, you know, from a smaller city. He was in college doing this thing.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Then he chased his dream and it was, you know, tough. But he did it. And he's back home and trying to figure it out. Like, man, feel you. Heard you, right? But I started to feel like, yo, he's so dramatic. Like, why is it? Like, just put it out.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Just do it. And now that I'm hearing him in this interview talk about, you know, the changes in a the disruption and the disconnection that he was going in and out of it. I just know now, especially when you're doing it in front of the world, how difficult that can be. And it's like you don't know until you experience it. So I felt him. It made me have a lot more empathy for him. And a lot of the things that we saw prior to the fall off and things that we're seeing now after the fall off, right?
Starting point is 00:24:31 So he talks about two being like first generation artists that was like critiqued heavily by like, social media, right? Because he's there as like, MySpace and then boom, Instagram is getting big and Facebook and Twitter comes along and everybody's critiquing you and everybody has something to say. And he was very honest about the fact that like, that wasn't easy. And I feel him, like, especially when you're new in a space when you're disrupting. Let's take a listen. You know what I mean? Like you talk about coming up and being this first generation of artists, like growing up inside social media and always having. to deal with people picking you apart, right?
Starting point is 00:25:10 That can really, really get in your head. Like, at what point do you feel like you got a handle on blocking that out as well? Forest Hill Drive was my first great, great time of like escaping that. First step is like, yo, just, you know, I had a rule when I was working on that album, which is like, yo, don't, you can't go on social media.
Starting point is 00:25:29 That was the first, that was a life-saving rule. You know what I mean? And next was like, yo, everything you make, make it for you. Like, don't, because there was a dark period where it was like, yo, that first album, period, you know, I'm picking my snare drums. Is this a hit snare drum? I'm writing my lines like, is this line gonna work in a club
Starting point is 00:25:47 or at a show? It was like, it was the worst. So I had a rule, no social media and no, and when you make it, it's gotta be from a pure place. So that's the first time I got it right. So I've delicately balanced that and maintain that. There's been times in the past few years where it's like I might lean back and like poke my head, had more and every time it feels disgusting.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Like, it feels nasty. It's like, oh, God, like, I hate how I feel right now. Just even reading. So then fast forward, right? They then start having a conversation about everything that we saw at Dreamville, which was his festival that he was doing in the Carolinas. Or he was bringing together a bunch of artists. The last time he had that festival was supposed to be the last year of the festival.
Starting point is 00:26:29 But then, you know, he recently said to a fan on this press run for the falloff that it might come back in a different way. So that's what I'm saying. I don't know if anything that's supposed to end with him is actually going to end because I feel like there's this new inspiration in him now. But he talks about the moment he knew he was going to apologize and just how bad he felt involving himself and all this mess that he didn't want to be a part of. A lot of people say he felt like this just because his verse at Kendrick was not good. It was wet, or not his best. But to me, it seems like, you know, for him it was more spiritual.
Starting point is 00:27:03 The more I started to work, this is after Kendrick Draig, Dreamville Fest, I basically had to like just gather myself, first of all, had to like recover. That shit was like, you know, that shit was a big whirlwind of emotions at that time because I felt like I misrepresented myself. You know what I mean? It's like all of a sudden I'm giving life to division into a negative, to negative storylines or negative perceptions on somebody that I fuck with and got love for. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:36 Somebody that I like care about it. It's like, oh shit, I felt miserable about it. And so I'm like, oh my God, I got to go on the stage and like come out here and pretend almost. Like people think that I'm representing. Mike Delete later had just dropped. It's the biggest news. Not saying Mike Delete later is, but just the drama of all of this is the biggest news happening.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And I'm coming out as a representative of what the fuck they just heard. It's like, ah, nah. So an hour before it was like, ah, aha. Like, yo, in a very loud. manner, you know, on a very public forum on your album, you said some shit you didn't believe in. Now you got the opportunity to go on to a bigger form, you know what I mean? A bigger stage is being live streamed and say something that you believe in. And in that moment, I'm like, oh, thank you, God.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Like, told my wife, she's the only one I told. I ain't telling him why else. I was like, yo, this one about to go do. She start crying because she know, she know how I feel about him. You know what I mean? Like she knows. And she saw how it was weighing on me the two, three days before that. that she could see in my whole energy.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And she would even ask me, and I'm just like, yeah, I got a lot going on right now. Like, so, so when I go and do it, I felt even better than I felt knowing I was gonna do. I felt like. It's like I understand where he's coming from with it. But like, I also, I can't blame anybody for all the responses that he got.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Like, I can't. Like the way that rap and hip hop is set up, I don't care how healed and how much, therapy people are doing it's not built for this type of conversation in this stuff and he said something in this interview that i wish nadezka had followed up on he said to him it didn't matter what people had to say because he knew that kendrick heard him i would love to know if him and kendrick have had a conversation about that apology and if so what what was the conversation would love to know they also like had a it was weird because she um nadezka had asked
Starting point is 00:29:37 him about like what his relationship now was with Drake or whatever, right? And and just, you know, the whole everything that happened after that, like not like us and all of that, right? And he starts to answer and he's answering the question, but then the way did the interview cuts, it's like they cut out his answer. Let's take a listen. You've had your relationship with Kendrick and Drake stretch back years. You know what I mean? I don't know what it is it's like with you guys now. I mean, first of all, those is dudes that I admire these dudes. I got genuine love for these dudes. Like, I hate to see the world shit on either one of them in defense of the other. You know what mean? That's like, right? That shit is even saying it out loud is a little silly. Well, at the end of
Starting point is 00:30:24 the day, I'm glad you made the decision that was right for you. Appreciate it. You know what I mean? That, like, you feel good and you could sleep well at night and then you make an album that you love and you're proud of and y'all hear it too i don't know because i at my i was watching it with my boyfriend and he caught it first and then i had to because i was like taking notes on an interview so i've rewinding it back and i heard and i'm like yeah they definitely cut out the rest of his response because it literally just he's talking talking talking and it's like he's about to go into this heartfelt you know he doesn't like the comparisons because he talks about how he doesn't like the whole comparison of like michael jordan and lebron james right because if you're going to compare
Starting point is 00:31:01 and big up one person, you low-key have to tear down another. And you can enjoy the heights and the accomplishments of another person because you have to talk about the bad parts to get to all the good parts over here about somebody else. And he compares hip-hop to sports and that way about like, you know, how people critique everything in hip-hop. But that's the sport of it. Like, that is just what it's built on, right? Especially for a lyricist like Jay Cole, occupying what was the big three at one point.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I don't know what it is right now. Maybe Kendrick said it's just big him. So that's up for interpretation of what if you, if y'all even think we still have a big three or not after all of this. But I thought that was weird. It's like very obvious that they cut something out of that interview. Like now I want to know. Like, well, what is the relationship with Drake?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Drake got Iceman coming and I don't know when that is supposed to come. But I'm hoping that he'll actually like address things in a real way. Because a few episodes ago, I haven't been a few, probably like a couple months ago when Drake dropped, what did I miss? Go back and take a listen to the episode. I was pissed. I'm like, yo, at this point, Drake, if you're not going to have a real conversation about this and stop acting like you don't know what happened, I don't even want to hear it. Like, I would rather just hear good songs.
Starting point is 00:32:20 No, Keith was a good. Drake makes great songs. And I know Iceman is going to be great. I'm actually excited to hear it. but I kind of feel like now because it's like everybody's skating around it. Jay Cole ain't saying nothing. Drake is acting like he don't even know what happened. I want somebody to have a real conversation about, you know, what it feels like being
Starting point is 00:32:41 on the inside of that. Jay Cole attempted to. He did. He talked about the aftermath of, you know, the apology and, you know, they had memes of him like walking on the beach and, you know, all this stuff. He talked about kind of what it felt like being on the inside of that. and people hitting him up, like, because people thought it was over for Jake Cold
Starting point is 00:33:02 during that time. Let's take a listen. And you're like, I don't care her or upset y'all are. I didn't get to fuck. I was so light and like, and because I knew at the end of the day, he heard me and the world heard me. You know what I mean? It's like, yo, if I never say another word on this again, like y'all see where I stand.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And it's like, yo, I made a, in my mind, I made a wrong or right in the best way that I could. Yo, you did wrong. You were in the wrong. I put myself in the wrong. Now mind you, in my mind I had like justifications and how I thought it would go and boom, boom. But but in reality, when it actually played out, I was like, oh, God, that was fucking stupid. And now how do you make a wrong or right? And that was, it just came to me like an hour before. I got to give you props for that. You're, you're a brave, a brave person. It's like you said, yo, hip hop is, I love this culture, but it is scary. You know what I mean? The way people will come for you. like personally attack you for things and the things people said after that were were you really just hanging out at a beach minding your business after this? No, no, but it was funny because I was actually at a beach just for like a couple days I
Starting point is 00:34:13 went to this little beach spot and so but mind you I didn't know that the I guess a meme or whatever was going around saying that so people showing me like bro this is crazy like you're actually at a beach but it wasn't but mind you to let you know though, because it kind of goes to what we were saying earlier, but I didn't finish my thought, where it's like I did what I did and I felt light free like I had did the right thing for me. You know what I had made a wrong right. However, like, you know, the world, they don't give a fuck about that and they fucking me up like in terms of like, you know, they fucking me up basically like my name, reputation, boom, boom. And so that was, although like, you know, you, you
Starting point is 00:34:57 You know, the likeness that I felt made it easier to deal with. Over time, I don't know how long that shit lasted. It felt like a very long time. But it was like over time, I had to process that shit. And I had to get right because, you know, of course, at the time, it felt like the right move. And it always felt like the right move. But there were times where the thoughts of like, damn, nigga, you're fucking done right now. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:20 Like, that's what the world is saying. It's over. I don't know. I feel like it's a big extreme of like it was over. It was done for Jay Cole. at that time, but it was definitely like, I think people had never seen anything like that before. It was definitely, oh my God, like the conversation was so loud. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Like, he's talking about he's learning like get off of social media and his phone when things happen, bro. I feel like I would have had to leave the U.S. And like completely, like I cannot imagine being J. Cole during that time. Drake, J. Cole, and Kendrick Lamar honestly, they gave us one of the best years in hip hop conversation in sportsmanship, even though he bowed out and people, you know, will say that wasn't sportsmanship, that wasn't him competing for nothing. And I get it. I agree,
Starting point is 00:36:12 right? But it was entertaining. But were you not entertained? It was definitely entertaining. Can't imagine being here. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime. 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. Good people. What's up? What's up? It's Questlove. So recently, I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with actors and producer,
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Starting point is 00:40:22 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, speaking of entertaining, shifting gears a bit, Justin Timberlake. So we talked about on this previous episode, Justin Timberlake, and, you know, he was in this battle with the police in sack harbor which is uh it's like a it's a town in um new york so he was in this battle with a police here because he didn't want them to release the um body can footage of his dw i he had gotten word that you know different media outlets were submitting requests to get the videos and he didn't want um people to be able to receive the videos blah blah blah blah blah right this past week police in
Starting point is 00:41:09 Sag Harbor announced that they came to an agreement with Justin Bieber and that they were going to release video footage from the body cam, but it was going to be partially redacted. So basically, like, a lot of personal information would be redacted from the video.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Now, Justin was, you know, trying everything in his power to make sure that, like, nothing would come out because I feel like, I mean, of course, you don't want video out there floating where he's mentioning personal information. and address and things of that nature. And sometimes when full body cam video is released,
Starting point is 00:41:42 it is very unedited. And it's up to the media outlets to edit things and redact things, but then things get to social media, and that doesn't always happen. So I can understand that. But in the video, he's obviously drunk. They try to do a phil sobriety test. And it gets to a point where, like,
Starting point is 00:41:59 he's telling them, I can't do this test. It's just too much. And his friend steps in for the win. Let's tick a little. So the group of stops because you're veering off to the left and then you're not stopping at the stop signs. Yeah, sorry about that. Is this your vehicle or whose vehicle is it? It's a rental.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's a rental? Okay. Do you have any registration with it? Do you know if they put in the glove box? Uh, let me check. What do you visit him? Yeah, I'm on tour. What are you doing? Uh, I'm on a world tour.
Starting point is 00:42:34 A what? A world tour. Doing a lot? Um, hard to explain. Um, um, um, um, world tour, I'm Justin Timberlake. Um. What's, what's your name? Justin Timberlake.
Starting point is 00:42:58 You are Justin Timberlake? Yeah. Do you have a license with you? Yeah, I do. And then you're gonna put your right foot in front of your left to stay just like that, okay? You're gonna heel to toe like this. Heal to toe. One, one thousand, two, three, one.
Starting point is 00:43:13 One, one thousand. 1,000, 1,000, 1,000, 5,000. All right, that's all good. All right. By the way, these are, like, these are, like, really hard tests. So the way this device works, you just put your lips over it, and you blow up, blow into it like you're blowing a balloon. No?
Starting point is 00:43:33 Yeah. Okay. All right. All right, um, at this point, based upon the observations, um, you're under the rest for suspicion of drug and all intoxicated. There has to be a moment of talking. No. Not anymore. Please help me.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Okay. Hold on. This is the registration of the vehicle. Just make sure it stays with the vehicle, okay? I have his phone. Yeah. Yep. Can you guys please just do me a favor?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Because you love to buy, bye, bye. You're like sexy bad. I'm happy. I'm happy. Let me ask him if he wants me to give him his phone. Yeah. This isn't safe. So it's not going to be a long thing.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I'll let you walk up real quick. Now, Justin was taken in. He felt a full sobriety test. He was then booked. He ended up pleading guilty to a lesser charge. They did not involve drunk. drunk driving or even a criminal offense. He ended up copping to a traffic violation and got off with a slap on a wrist, basically.
Starting point is 00:44:25 But when he was originally arrested, he was originally arrested under suspicion of driving while under the influence. And it was like it's such a big deal. And I remember he released a statement and tried to make it seem like, you know, he had just had a few cocktails. But he's drunk in this video. Like it is very obvious. And cops has said when they approach. arrested him that they started following him because he couldn't even keep a straight line on the road. They were following him for about a mile and a half.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Or, yeah, they were following him for about half a mile before they turned their lights on and pulled him over. He pulled over the intersection and then they, you know, did everything that they did with the Phil sobriety test. But his eyes were bloodshot, red. They were glossy. And they actually smelt the odor of the alcohol on him. His speech was bad.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Like, they had described. everything we're seeing in his video. So he, I was saying he was lucky to get off the way that he got off because they hold it on you. They didn't. It should. Like, you know, people died because of drunk driving. Like, they definitely should.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah. So now the body cams out. There's also booking of footage of Justin Bieber as well too. And some of the booking footage, I know some of the parts that are going viral. People are laughing at the fact that when they identified him as white, he kind of joked about not being identified as white.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I'm just kidding. White? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, man. Child, y'all had Justin B. I keep saying Justin Bieber. I keep confusing the white boys at B at the cookout. Justin Timberlake. Y'all didn't have Justin Timberlake over on our side a little bit too long, baby?
Starting point is 00:46:08 He took a looking at the police like, white. Excuse me? Look, drunk driving is not laughing matter whatsoever. I know he was able to crack a little joke or two up in here, but not a laughing matter at all. To be honest with you, I'm kind of glad that the body can footage had to come out. Like, he had to come to an agreement where the body can footage had to come out. I think that, you know, a lot of times, not even just for celebrities, but for people in general,
Starting point is 00:46:33 like I feel like we don't learn sometimes unless, you know, there's like a, like we don't learn in quiet. Like the slap on a wrist is cool. But I think sometimes there has to be like a public element to things, especially things like this where it's like someone's life could have been taken because Justin Timberlake decided. he went to drive his own car. And I never understand that either with celebrities. It's like, yo, you can afford a driver. You can afford, even if it's just like an Uber X, like you can afford it. Why not do it? Like I never understood that with celebrities, like, who just have the money to be able to do it. Like, why? If I had the money to afford a driver every time I went somewhere,
Starting point is 00:47:12 I would never drive. Ever. Like ever. I don't, I don't get it. So I think you need an element of this kind of like public shame and embarrassment to keep him on track because that's what he was trying to avoid. I think it was more for him. I was about like, okay, we got past this. The slap on the wrist happened. Didn't have to do any jail time. But now people need to see this. And I know he has, you know, he's Justin Terberlake. He'll be fine. He's white, even though he forgot he was, he'll be good. But you need an element of here's what we want to hold you accountable to so that it won't happen again. So I'm sure he's learned his lesson. If not, this body can't footage that is viral as hell is going to be a great reminder.
Starting point is 00:47:49 every single time he forgets. This has been another episode of the latest with Lauren La Rosa. I am Lauren LaRosa and I tell you guys every single episode. Y'all could be anywhere, any old where listening and talking about all of these things. But you guys choose to be right here with me, my low riders. I appreciate you guys so much for that and I'll catch you in my next episode. Good people. What's up?
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