The Breakfast Club - Damson Idris Interview and more

Episode Date: March 3, 2022

Today on the show we had the star of Snowfall Damson Idris who spoke on the return of Snowfall, Saweetie's Piano, Rich Paul, Jay-Z, Denzel Washington and more. Also, we had Erika Alexander & Rebk...ah Howard On ‘Finding Tamika’, giving missing WOC more media coverage and more. Moreover, Charlamagne was not here today, so we let our listeners nominate a "Donkey of the Day" of their own. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams
Starting point is 00:00:40 and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best, and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or
Starting point is 00:01:18 maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zaka Stan. He's held! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-Stan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Y'all are just the best at what y'all do. This platform, the reach y'all have that you've earned, makes space for somebody like me.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You guys have a direct line to the culture. Oh my God, I'm on the radio with Angela Char a direct line to the coaches. Oh, my God. I'm on the radio with Angela Charlemagne and DJ Envy. Yes, you are. All I do is read about the Breakfast Club. Really? Every morning. That's good.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You guys are trending. Every, you know, I drag my ass out of that. I'm like, what happened on the Breakfast Club today? Get your ass up. Good morning, USA. Hey, fam. Good morning. It's Thursday.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. How you guys feeling? One more day to the weekend. One more day to the weekend. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I am tired. How you feeling? I feel okay. I'm feeling a little better. Yesterday you was beat. Yeah, I think I just was exhausted. I've been doing too much. So yesterday, shout out to my wife. We have a book coming out April 19th. So we're planning and we're setting up a book tour. So like I said yesterday, we're traveling to city to city.
Starting point is 00:02:41 We're going to the mom and pop bookstores. We're going to the major bookstores. We just want to meet and see the people it's a relationship book we break down everything that we've been through uh hopefully to help people out there that's you know maybe going through similar problems similar situations don't know how to figure it out um and we just kind of you know tell our story we're just honest and truthful so it's it's gonna be some um some crying moments in that book but it's uh it was therapy to me and my, because we were able to talk a lot of things out from the beginning of our relationship. So that was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So we were setting that up. So yesterday, you know, I'm into real estate. So I have a property that's about an hour away and I went to go check and I left my laptop there. Now it comes with the house. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:21 No. So my laptop is my everything. So that's where I take, no matter what, when I get out the car, I take my laptop. That is my everything. So that's where I take no matter what. When I get out the car, I take my laptop. That's my life. Like, that's how I make my money. That's how I DJ.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Oh, nudes. No, no nudes, but just how I DJ. So I left yesterday, and I remembered that I left my laptop there. So last night, I drove back to the property to go get my laptop. But they did work on the house, so I was so impressed with the work that they did in the house. I'm FaceTiming my wife. I'm saying, look, I go back home. I left the laptop again.
Starting point is 00:03:47 What is wrong with you, Envy? So I had to get up at 3 o'clock this morning to drive back to the property this morning to go get the damn laptop. You are really ditzy. I am a blonde. I am very ditzy this morning. All right. Don't blonde shame.
Starting point is 00:04:00 No blonde shame. All right. Well, we got a great show for you today. We have Damson Idris joining us this morning. Yes, from the amazing show Snowfall. That show is so great. I love, man. And it's crazy because, you know, the new season started.
Starting point is 00:04:15 They did like two episodes back to back. And I had to really like go back because I was trying to remember. It feels like it's so long in between all these shows that you got to recall what happened. I've heard so many good things about Snowfall. I just haven't dove into it. I haven't seen it yet. I just haven't had time. We're on season five.
Starting point is 00:04:31 You got to tune in. You got time to watch The Bachelor. I do. But I fall asleep on The Bachelor. That's my wife's show. So you can fall asleep on it. You can watch a little bit. I haven't seen Euphoria.
Starting point is 00:04:41 What? No, I haven't seen that. The Tindless Windler. What's that thing? Oh, yeah. The Tindless Windler. I haven't seen that yet. Inventing Anna I haven't seen that. The Tindless Wendler. What's that thing? Oh, yeah. Tindless Wendler. I haven't seen that yet. Inventing Anna.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I've only seen like three episodes of that. Like, I've been behind, behind. But... Hey. Hey, stop it. But damn, Sid Idris will be joining us. And also, Erica Alexander and Rebecca Howard. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:57 They have a new podcast called Finding Tamika that focuses on the disappearance and murder of Tamika Hudson. Houston? Houston. Houston? Houston. Houston, yeah. So we'll be kicking it with them in a little bit as well. So a packed show. And let's get the show cracking.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Front page news, what are we talking about? Yes, let's start it off with, I mean, you know what we're talking about, Ukraine and Russia. And now there is a bounty on the head of Vladimir Putin. We'll tell you who placed that bounty. Oh, my goodness. All right. We'll get into that next. It's tell you who placed that bounty. Oh, my goodness. All right. We'll get into that next.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. What's the news? Some new news.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Some new news. Where are we starting? All right. Well, let's start with the Russian businessman. He has put a $1 million bounty on Vladimir Putin's head. Now, what does that mean? Not that he wants him killed, but he wants him arrested as a war criminal. This investor is saying that he promises to pay $1 million to the officer or officers who,
Starting point is 00:05:55 complying with their constitutional duty, arrest Putin as a war criminal under Russian and international laws. Now, the man who says this is a crypto investor. His name is Alex Konanikin. I can't even pronounce his last name. international laws. Now, the man who says this is a crypto investor. His name is Alex Konanikin. I can't even pronounce his last name, Konanikin. And he posted it on Facebook. He said Putin had violated the Russian Constitution by eliminating free elections and murdering his opponent. He said, as an ethnic Russian and a Russian citizen, I see it as my moral duty to facilitate
Starting point is 00:06:22 the denazification of Russia. I will continue my assistance to Ukraine in its heroic efforts to withstand the onslaught of Putin's order. So he doesn't want him killed. He just wants to prosecute him as a war criminal. OK. And now let's give you guys some updates. There's another round of talks that will be taking place today between both delegations for Ukraine and for Russia. They said the first round on Monday lasted five hours.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Now, the mayor of the southern city of Kershan indicated that they had fallen on Wednesday. They said Ukrainian forces has left. So Russian forces have taken over. And this follows several days of heavy fighting. A Western intelligence report indicated that Chinese officials, in the meantime, in early February, requested that senior Russian officials wait until after the Beijing Winter Olympics had finished before they started that invasion of Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So apparently they knew, but they were like, let's just wait until after the Olympics before you guys do this. Yeah, my only thing is, my question is this. You know, they have those conversations. What are they having conversations about, right? If I'm Ukraine, what is there to talk about? Why are you invading my country? Well, you're still wanting to see if there's any way to get a ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And no matter what, you still would like that. Yeah, absolutely. So you have to come to the table to try to see if you can make that happen. And the United States and every country is still hoping that it happens. But what do you give up? If you're Ukraine, what conversation do you have? It's not like you'd be like, well, I'll give you this if you just stop shooting at me.
Starting point is 00:07:50 What do you have? Stop shooting at me. Stop dropping bombs at me. You're killing innocent people. I don't understand what these conversations are. I don't know how they're helping. Now, one million people have left Ukraine in just a week, according to the UN.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I did see on the news some people that were protesting when the Russian military were coming in. They were standing there and they were chanting and yelling and they didn't have any weapons or anything on them. So eventually the Russians did go past them, but they were standing outside protesting, saying that they didn't have any weapons. But, you know, asking them to please leave. Obviously, that didn't work. Now, the U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan resolution Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That resolution expresses support for the people of Ukraine. There were only three people who voted against the resolution. They were all Republicans. One of them said on Twitter that they said, talk to me when our border is
Starting point is 00:08:46 secure. Another person says that he thought the resolution was overly broad and that targeting Russia's economy could backfire and cause further economic stress for low-income Americans. And the third person argued that the U.S. has no moral obligation to help either side in the
Starting point is 00:09:01 conflict. So those are the three people who voted. The vote was almost unanimous, 426 to 3, in order to support Ukraine. Now, seven Russian banks have been removed from the SWIFT network. We told you guys about that earlier. Those are the banks that are now not going to be able to send money. And, you know, economically, that's where everybody's hitting them right now with all these different sanctions. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So we'll keep you updated again on what's going on in Ukraine and Russia as things keep on happening. And that is your front page news. They are saying these latest sanctions will, in the long term, really affect Russia as people are figuring out ways to get around the oil and gas issue that we're having now with the shortage around the world from all these sanctions against Russia. Yeah, they're saying gas prices are going to be $119 a barrel. So people are like, well, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:09:51 Just think about it. Last year, it was around $88 a barrel, $90 a barrel. So the fact that it's going to $119, meaning gas prices will probably shoot over $5, which is going to be very, very, very, very difficult, very expensive. Yeah, people will be scrambling to try to find alternative supplies. But in the long term, do you really want to have to rely on Russia for gas and oil? So now everybody has to figure out something alternative. Yeah, they're pushing electric.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And I know for some people looking at electric cars, because I've been looking at electric cars the last couple of days, I know right now for myself, Tesla looks good because Tesla has so many charging stations where you can actually charge and you have the fast charges. A lot of them are free. And I know a lot of these other manufacturers, they have electric cars, but you got to pay to charge your car. So it's kind of like getting gas. So just do your homework.
Starting point is 00:10:33 My brother has an electric car. He's so happy. What kind of car? He has a BMW. I got to figure it out. I just got to ask some more questions about it. But anyway, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:10:43 If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. I'm darling. I'm darling. Hey, what you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:10:57 I'm darling. I'm calling you. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? What's up, Envy?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yo, Trav, if I tell you how many people are really upset that you always get through, like, they're like, how does Trav always get through? We get tagged in posts, like, how does this happen? Oh, trust me, you don't have to tell me. They be all in my DMs, like, oh, you need to get a job and all of that. Mind you, that didn't used to bother me because I used to have a job like for nine years. Now you're like, I do. Now I'm seeing a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Because now, you know, I lost my job. Now I be seeing a little bit. Yeah, you lost your job a while ago. I lost my job in December, Yeen, not a while ago. I ain't been jobless for a while. Okay, okay. You need to get a job, Trav. Go get a job. Feel like a long time.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Okay, but God's still been blessing me because I got food stamps. I'm on unemployment. Oh, my goodness. God is still blessing me. Won't he do it? Now, if you got an opportunity, hey, I'm all ears. I'm all ears. I know that's right. I'm calling because, listen, actually,
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yee, I know I'm always asking you for something, and I would actually like to have your help and envy if I'm actually just finished the project that I'm doing. I've been working on it for the last year, and I have six sentences, three in peace, if you guys could help me with my project. What's your project? It's a little EP,
Starting point is 00:12:21 and I just wanted you guys to narrate something for me, and I literally have the six sentences written out. And it's only six sentences. Oh, my God. I like that you always have an easy ask. Now, is Blind Beauty on the project?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yes, she is. Okay, then yes, I'll do it. I don't know. Can you help me? I don't know, because I'm charging a little more after I did the Queen Naja
Starting point is 00:12:39 project. You know, my course went up a little bit. I didn't see you in there. I was definitely in there. Mine is non-profit, Andy. I'm not trying to make no money. I didn't see you in there. I was definitely in there. Mine is non-profit, Envy. I'm not trying to make no money. I'm just joking, Trav.
Starting point is 00:12:47 We got you, man. I appreciate that. We got you. I'm going to send it to y'all. Thank you. Let me see Envy's. I didn't see you in there, Envy. I'm in there.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I started open. I start the video off with no shirt on. Hello, who's this? This is Jasmine from the Bronx, but I now live in Maryland. Jasmine from the Bronx that lives in Maryland live in maryland jasmine from the bronx that lives in maryland what up get it off your chest okay i just have to get off my chest so i was gonna um i had talked with a friend i was gonna go to new york to watch my godson to watch her son but i um so that she could go on a trip on mother's day but i decided
Starting point is 00:13:19 to change my mind and i told her like look i'm going through stuff mentally I can't I can't go to New York I can't watch him so long story short we basically got into a disagreement about it and she said well I won't I don't want you watching my son and you have mental health problems and that really like it just made me realize like what is up like I've watched him before and I have you know a mental health condition like why is it that if I change my mind, like, all of a sudden I can't watch them because I have mental health problems, so I just, I don't know, like, I just had to get off my chest because I'm like, is there a stigma?
Starting point is 00:13:52 Like, do people feel like you're going through stuff and you're trying to, like, you know, manage your mental health, like, you can't babysit? Like, what is that about? Well, I'm sure she was probably upset because it was Mother's Day, so she probably made plans and arrangements. Yeah, she planned a trip. And she probably planned a trip or a date or whatever it was,
Starting point is 00:14:08 and then you canceled on her last minute, so she's probably upset. And hurt people hurt people. She probably tried to throw a stab at you to dig at you back. Yeah, and I can understand that, and I do understand that concept. But I also feel like this. I'm a person that she knows my heart. I always look out for my God someone I can. You know what I'm saying? I put a lot of people first, and now that I'm a person that she knows my heart. Like, I always look out for my God so when I can, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Like, I put a lot of people first. And now that I'm not putting people first and I'm finally putting myself first, it's a problem. Well, that's going to happen. I mean, you know, she had a problem that, you know, that you stiffed and you did her dirty and you feel a way. Well, aside from all of that, take care of yourself, you know? Yeah, that's more important. Take care of yourself. I mean, that's her child and she can make whatever
Starting point is 00:14:48 decisions that she wants to make, but as far as you, really take care of yourself. Yeah, that's what I'm working on. I'm just trying to take care of myself and, you know, I appreciate y'all. Thanks for y'all advice and hopefully like I said, we gotta end this stigma with mental health and you know, just children
Starting point is 00:15:03 in general because it's okay to go through stuff and be able to pull back and say, yo, I gotta focus on and, you know, just children in general, because it's OK to go through stuff and be able to pull back and say, you know, I got to focus on me, you know, and hopefully I will be able to watch him again. Like, you know, I love my guy. So, like, I want to be able to babysit and stuff, but I'm going through a lot right now. So I just hope my friend is understanding and we'll see what happens. Yeah, focus on you. Like you said, continue to do that.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Put yourself first. You've identified, you know, that you you. Like you said, continue to do that. Put yourself first. You've identified. You know that you have some things you've got to deal with. And so worry about that right now and deal with that. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Let's go. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed. Say it with your chest! We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. So if you got something on your mind, lay it out.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Hello, who's this? What's going on? It's your boy, Chris. Chris, what up? Get it off your chest. What up, bro? What up? Okay, real quick. I just want to make sure that everybody knows there's an opportunity for young African-American men
Starting point is 00:16:04 to get a scholarship to attend HBCU. You guys are familiar with me. S as in Sam, VGS. Okay? So I want all my young African-American men attending HBCUs to go to S as in Sam, V as in Victor, G as in God, S as in Foundation.org. And get with me, okay? So, anybody who wants to donate, please also donate. You'll be in the best of company like Uncle Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Are you there yet, Uncle Charlotte? He's not here. He's not here today. He would not be there when y'all actually put me through. But, you know, we all are Hampton graduates. Shout out to DJ Envy. So check us out once again. Angela, I know you got the computer right there.
Starting point is 00:16:49 At btsfoundation.org. Indeed. Oh, Dan, you hung up on him? I didn't hang up on him. That was your Hampton fellow alum. That's my Hampton bro. I never hung up on him. But definitely check him out and see if they're giving scholarships and you need help. Definitely hit up his organization. And I'm definitely going to donate to the organization
Starting point is 00:17:05 if they're giving out scholarships to brothers who need it. Hello, who's this? This is Julie May. I'm glad that you guys answered. What's up? What's up, Julie? Get it off your chest. Getting it off my chest.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I think I'm in love with my best friend that I had, you know, I had talked about, like, us pursuing three years ago, and then I jumped into a relationship with a loved guy, too. But I'm in love with him. I'm in love with my best friend, and I'm going to have to make this choice. And I am going through, I guess, a spiritually hard time. I'm getting through the hard part. Did you just say you're in love with somebody else and with your best friend?
Starting point is 00:17:44 You have a boyfriend? And turn your radio down. I do have a boyfriend and of three years, he's a great guy. And right before I started dating him, you know, my best friend had been feelings to me and
Starting point is 00:17:59 you know, it's always been in the back of my mind and like right now, since I've been focusing on myself, like stepping back and I just feel guilty, you know? Well, you shouldn't feel guilty, but if you're not happy in your relationship, I mean, the number one thing is happy. She says she's in love with him, too. Oh, you're in love with both. I mean, I feel you can be. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And I don't know what to do in this situation, but I know that focusing on myself, I guess. Sounds like you're focusing on other people, too. I am. And maybe taking a step back will help that. Wow. Are you in love or are you in lust? Me either, because lust is like there's so much more to a connection, you know? Like there's so much more to intimacy.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And that's what I've, like, I've, I've been there through the hardest times, you know, like 2020 has been harder on everyone, you know, like God bless every, like everyone that's gotten some hardships like since, but you know, now I'm focusing on myself and it's like, I,
Starting point is 00:18:55 I totally slapped on this guy. Like started dating someone the next day. And then let me ask you this. Does he love you back? Your best friend? He does. And it's just scary though. He's a player. He's my best friend. I know him. I seen him, you know, he love you back, your best friend? He does, and it's just scary, though. He's a player.
Starting point is 00:19:05 He's my best friend. I know him. I've seen him, you know? Have you been sleeping with him already? No. I pull this off. I hold off on it, and that's okay. And that's what I respect, too.
Starting point is 00:19:16 You know, I've been abstinent from both while in this. Oh, you haven't had sex. So, I mean, why don't you just date them both? Just start dating. Tell your boyfriend that you just want to date other people. Let him date other people and then feel it out. That might not be your best friend anymore if you know he's a player and you guys start dating and you start cheating on your man with him.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I didn't say cheat. I said open relationship. Don't cheat. Have the conversation. Just have the conversation. Have a real conversation and see where it goes. Okay, you might end up alone. You might end up...
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah, that's a possibility. And then, you know, maybe that's what I need. Yeah, maybe. That's definitely what I need right now. Yeah, but just be honest. So that way you ain't got to be hiding and running around and doing stuff that's foul. So just be honest. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And you guys have a blessed morning. You too. Thank you. Good luck. Thank you. I don't think it's going to work out too good for her. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:20:02 We got rumors on the way? Yeah, since we're talking relationships, Kim Kardashian is illegally single. We'll tell you all about it. All right, we'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:20:56 What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know,
Starting point is 00:21:55 follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:22:39 For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or'll get to hear Melinda Gates opening up about what led to her divorce from Bill Gates.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Now, she sat down with Gayle King and she talked about her whole healing journey. Did you have moments where you were just so angry? Did you have moments that you were just so angry? Did you have moments that you were just in such pain? Well, I think it's really important to say, look, I had a lot of tears for many days. I mean, days where I'm literally laying on the floor and the carpet, you know, this close to me thinking, how can this be? How can I get up? That's part of the grieving process. You're grieving a loss of something you thought you had and thought you had for your lifetime. And at the end of the day, though, I started on this journey of healing and I feel like I'm starting to get to the other side.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I'm actually really excited about what's to come in life ahead for me. They were married for 27 years and they announced their split in May. They released a joint statement that said we no longer believe we can grow together as a couple in this next phase of our lives. If you guys recall, he had an affair with a staffer 20 years ago, which was confirmed by a spokesperson for him last May as well. Here's what Melinda Gates said about trust. After the news came out, it was revealed that Bill Gates admitted that he had had an affair in the marriage. And at that time, did you think we're going to work through this?
Starting point is 00:24:48 How did you handle something like that? Well, I certainly believe in forgiveness. So I thought we had worked through some of that. It wasn't one moment or one specific thing that happened. There just came a point in time where there was enough there that I realized it just wasn't healthy and i couldn't trust what we had so she forgave that but there was other things that got her to that point yeah and i'm sure we'll hear some of those things in that interview this morning she's still worth she's worth 2.4 billion by the way but i mean i'm sure that's difficult you start with somebody 20 years and 27 27 years and gaining that trust back is one of the most difficult things to try to, you know, because it's everything.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And you disrespect or you cheat or you you're not honest with your everything. And then it's hard to get that back. All right. Well, Kim Kardashian is legally single. So congratulations to her. We know that's what she wanted. The judge did grant her motion. Why did she like that?
Starting point is 00:25:47 You hear the camera guy, Nick, was like, whoo, okay, Nick. Yes, she has been granted her motion seeking the legal status, and they said the case had stalled for several months, but there was a lot of progress, and he also finalized, the judge also finalized dropping west from her name so she is back to kim kardashian no longer kim kardashian west yeah i mean well i definitely pray for them i mean she this is what she wanted hopefully they both get the healing that they need but on another note that kanye west documentary is amazing yeah we'll talk about that more too
Starting point is 00:26:21 that is great and i see kanye was also hanging out with Tristan Thompson. The two of them were dining at the Satay in Miami Beach with a few other dinner guests as well. And that's an interesting hookup. Wouldn't be surprised if he was trying to hang out with Amber Rose again, too. So we shall see. But he also released a music video that was targeting Pete Davidson after his marriage was dissolved and that is for that song easy of course that he has if you guys recall this is the song life was never easy.
Starting point is 00:27:08 There it is. There it was. Don't interrupt. Just because there's no love. Show the shrug. This song is tough, though, by the way. Well, he ended the video with two slides that said everyone lived happily ever after, except Skeet. You know who?
Starting point is 00:27:27 And then he said, just kidding. He's fine. And so I don't understand why Kanye so mad at that. I was about to say Skeet at Pete Davidson. They're not friends. They didn't grow up with each other. Also in the video, there's a depiction of him burying a cartoon man that resembles Pete Davidson alive. I don't know why he's so mad with Pete.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Like, Pete is a man. He doesn't know you. He doesn't owe you anything. You having problems with your wife. Ex-wife now. Ex-wife. Him and your ex-wife got together and what did he do? He doesn't owe you anything.
Starting point is 00:27:57 He doesn't owe you loyalty. He's not your friend. He didn't grow up with you. You know? A source told Entertainment Tonight that Pete Davidson isn't bothered by Kanye's attacks on him. He said Pete finds Kanye's attacks on him. He said Pete finds Kanye's lyrics and interviews about him funny and entertaining. He's super chill about the situation and doesn't take it too personally, but he hates that Kim has to deal with the drama.
Starting point is 00:28:19 All right, well, that is your front page news. No, that's rumor. I mean, your rumor reports. All right. You're right. We got front page news next. What are we talking about? We are going to talk about the guy who was on the subway smearing feces on that woman. He was arrested, and he's back on the streets already.
Starting point is 00:28:33 We'll tell you what happened. All right. We'll get into that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Have you ever wanted to own a piece of Breakfast Club history?
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Starting point is 00:29:00 We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news. Where we starting, The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Where we starting, Ye? Well, the guy who smeared his own feces on a woman's face was freed without bail yesterday. And he was actually before a judge for the second time in two days. This time on charges that he spat on a Jewish man and chased him down to Brooklyn Street, screaming, come here, you effing Jew, I'm going to kill you, according to a criminal complaint. They said that happened September 9th in Crown Heights.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So again, last week in the Bronx, he was accused of rubbing his excrement in a woman's face. He's now charged with second degree aggravated harassment as a hate crime, disorderly conduct and two counts of menacing, including one as a hate crime. But they could not set bail on any of those charges because of the state's new bail reform laws that nix the cash option for many charges. So for that reason, Frank Abroqua was released. Yeah, and they have to fix that. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:30:01 People get arrested and they can't afford bail, and that's that's what they did it for but then there's a loophole like this gentleman has been arrested 44 times right he has a felony he had a felony charge he continues to do this but because of this new bail he can get arrested and come right back out so when does it stop you know first he spit on somebody then he smeared poop on somebody's face what's next do you have to wait till somebody gets cut, somebody gets hurt, dies, before they say, okay, well, maybe we should keep him? Because that's not right. 44 times or 40-something times, that's not right.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And I'm sure he feels like he can do whatever he wants with no repercussions. He can. Yeah. He can. He smeared poop on somebody's face and got released the next day. Then he spit in somebody's face and chased him down the block and got released the next day. Like, that's not's face and chased him down the block and got released the next day. Like, that's not even the next day,
Starting point is 00:30:46 the same day. Mm-hmm. All right, now, a series of unseen sketches by Dr. Seuss will be edited by an inclusive group of writers and artists from, quote,
Starting point is 00:30:57 diverse racial backgrounds before they are published for the first time. And some people are upset they're accusing this of being woke-washing. And so Dr are upset. They're accusing this of being woke washing. And so Dr. Seuss Enterprises, which is a company founded by the family of Dr. Seuss, is putting this together. So this sketches will serve as the basis for a new line of books that
Starting point is 00:31:18 will be written and illustrated by that group. And it also follows his recent cancellation after six of his books, his kids books were yanked from publication because of alleged racist imagery did you read dr seuss books growing up of course i think every kid did i think every kid did yeah i i remember the cat in the hat and green eggs in him that's the only two i always remember the cat in hand the green eggs in him that's crazy that's that's what i read to That's crazy. That's what I read to my kids. Same difference. Alright, so actually President Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:31:52 did remove mentions of Dr. Seuss from the Read Across America Day and he is one of the world's most popular children's authors but his books have come under fire in recent years for how they portray several minority groups. For instance, If I Ran the Zoo has depicted Africans as pot-bellied and thick-lipped, as one biography of Seuss puts it. And so that book was first published in 1950.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And it also described Asian characters as helpers who all wear their eyes at a slant from countries no one can spell. Yeah, I mean, it's so crazy. These are what we've been teaching our kids, reading to our kids with this underlying racism in it. But we just need to create more, and we need to push our own. I mean, there's a lot of minority books that's written for kids, and we just got to push them more. We just got to get them more out there.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And I know sometimes they send a lot up here to our kids, and I read them to my kids all the time, but we just have to make those popular, make those as big as Dr. Seuss books were you know man I was at you know I was at the New York Public Library um two days ago and there is when I tell you the books they had in there and it was also Black History Month so I know they were highlighting a lot of those I was in the um I was in the teen center and then also for the younger kids and there are some incredible books that I wish I would have had you know know, growing up.
Starting point is 00:33:06 They had a Miles Davis book. They actually have a book about Michael B. Jordan as well. Really? But there's so many books. And for one of my friends who just had a kid, I just sent her a whole bunch of books. One of them is about Michelle Obama. It's just amazing, like, the diversity. And we have to support that, too.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah, and we just gotta keep those role models that we have. And what I'm seeing on television whether it's Nickelodeon, whether it's the Disney channel, what my kids watch, it is working. The other day, a couple of days ago I should say, my five-year-old Brooklyn, I hear her talking to her brother who's seven
Starting point is 00:33:38 and they were talking about Black History Month and you know, they were talking, he was trying to explain to her what Black History Month was and I'm listening because I'm like, this is so cute cute to me so she comes in the room and she was like mom what's black history month so my wife explains and you know and all of a sudden she goes yay i'm black and then she just runs out and then she starts telling everybody what black history month is so they are seeing it on nickelodeon they're seeing it on disney world's disney channel and it's it's encouraging them to learn more about their history,
Starting point is 00:34:05 which is great because if we just explain it, they'd be like, yeah, I have mom and dad, but the fact that it's on their favorite cartoons and they're breaking it down and they're explaining it
Starting point is 00:34:13 and they're giving moments, that is wonderful. So shout to whoever's doing that in Nickelodeon and on Disney Channel. I love what you guys are doing. Yeah, I'm looking at some of these books. A Fist for Joe Louis and Me.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Memphis Martin and The Mountain Top. And these are kids' at some of these books. A Fist for Joe Louis and Me. Memphis Martin and the Mountain Top. And these are kids books. Ida B. Wells. You know, Above the Rim. Just all these different books that you can see that highlight a lot of us. So, it's really dope. Alright, well that is your Front Page News. Alright, when we come back,
Starting point is 00:34:39 Damson Idris will be joining us. You know, he's an actor. You might know him from Snowfall. Yes. Recently, he was on a red carpet. And not him, but Denzel Washington was on a red carpet. And the interviewer, Ebony, she asked, you know, what do you know about Damson? And he had no clue. And it went viral. But he'll talk about that, address all that.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And we'll talk about Snowfall. All right? It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation
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Starting point is 00:38:32 Actually, the showrunner of Snowfall, Dave Andron. Same birthday, yeah. Virgo's the best, you know. Absolutely. They had us on New Year's. There you go. Now, the first thing you said was, I love New York because I love Jamaican culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:44 What do you love so much about Jamaican culture? What do you love? Obviously, the food. Dirt chicken. Oxtail. I'm an oxtail guy. Oh, you and me both. Yeah, oxtail.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Actually, I like to dabble in both. I like to steal food from whoever I'm eating with. Plantains. Do you guys say plantain or planting? I say planting. I say planting. I feel like that's the right way to say it. I feel like I was saying it wrong all my life.
Starting point is 00:39:07 You had to switch through all different kinds of ways to say things. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a part of my life, impersonating people. You don't have amazing Jamaican restaurants in London or in L.A. where you shoot? No? Nah, there's none, man. Not at all? Out here, I like Miss Lily's.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Miss Lily's? I actually wrote on a gram yesterday. I was like, oh, where could I go? People said Footprints. Oh, that's in Brooklyn. Footprints is good. Yes. Look, first of all, the best Caribbean food is in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:39:36 We got Footprints. We got Suede. We got Caribbean Social. We have- This is New York. We have Tilly. Oh, we have Negril. One called Negr have tilly oh we have one called the grill yes so there's another one as well i can't remember what the other one's called but i'm gonna try all of it today
Starting point is 00:39:50 that's impossible i saw you talking about how john singleton told you to stay humble though amongst everything yeah for people that don't know the first time we actually met you you were up here with john singleton yeah he don't remember you though he's like this is the first time I met you in the press I said I met you when John Singleton was here oh man no no no there's a couple asking guys in the DSS you're in there but yes how has that been for you though because obviously Snowfall is such a huge show you guys are in the fifth season we've watched Franklin grow up and he has got a lot of big things
Starting point is 00:40:25 happening, but in real life you've grown up too and your star has grown up as well. Yeah, it's a testament to John Singleton. He really believed in me. And although I fought for the role like crazy, I auditioned like nine times. He took me to South Central,
Starting point is 00:40:42 opened up the car door and said, if you survive you got the role. And I was like walking around, had to be in character. You walked around South Central. Oh, yeah. How was that? Break down that experience. Man, so I get to John Singleton's office, and I think I'm going to read the, I'm going to audition, right?
Starting point is 00:40:59 It's like audition number eight or something like that. And then he's like, yeah, no, we're not going to read anything. We're just going to take a walk. So I'm walking around, then he's like, yeah, no, we're not going to read anything. We're just going to take a walk. So I'm walking around and he's like, don't break character. And he's introducing me to people. And, you know, Singleton was like God in his community. Like people would be like, yo, John, you know, and then they'd come up to me talking to me.
Starting point is 00:41:19 They're like, yo, what's up, little homie? I'm like, yeah, yeah, what's up? I'm just pretending like that I'm from there. And then his mom came. And, you know, I'm British, so I'm saying a bunch of British stuff in an American accent. But he didn't know you were British, right? Oh, no, he knew. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:35 What were you saying? What kind of British stuff were you saying? You know, like you guys say, like, elevate. I say lift, you know. You guys say trash. I say bend. Plantain. Plantain. Exactly. say lift you know you guys say bent you guys say trash or say ben so exactly so i'm talking in an american accent and his mom comes like oh how lovely your hair looks today i'm just gonna go
Starting point is 00:41:53 over there and throw something in the bin and she looks over at john and she's like uh john he ain't from here huh i was like man mom just took this role for me were you scared walking around south central i wasn't scared man i was with john you know that's my big brother you know that was my I was like, man, mom just took this role from me. Were you scared walking around South Central? I wasn't scared, man. I was with John. That was my big brother. That was my big brother, man. I miss him greatly.
Starting point is 00:42:15 But as far as I get in this industry and on this journey, I'm always going to honor Singleton for being my foundation. Well, let's talk about the new season. So you're also producing on the new season. How did that come about? I forced them to give me a producer credit. No, when you've been doing this show for so long, you pick up different traits,
Starting point is 00:42:36 but at the same time, you want to be challenged. And my circles are so bossy today that they inspire me to want to be more of a leader that's the truth it's like if you're hanging around with certain types of people having certain types of conversations and they're like yo bro you should go in and then you ask and they're like okay you know i've been watching the yay doc you know and hove was like you know close mouths don't get fed like you know like it's true you know ask and you shall receive and and i asked and and they gave it to me and you know above all things i'm not the i'm not saying my level of producing is at the level of my acting ability my acting ability is quite horrible um i'm just saying i'm saying i'm being a sponge and I'm being given an opportunity to learn so that I can use my platform and my brand to create more opportunities.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Now you play a crack cocaine dealer, right? How difficult was that learning that? Because you're young, so crack, it really affected me and you, our age group. Growing up as kids, we would see crack pipes everywhere. We would see crack vials everywhere. I know, I was all over the place in Brooklyn not all over the place. No It was very very big very very affected. I got family members affected by it and all that So, how did you prepare for learning that role Wow? Well, I'm from Peckham in London, which is the South Central equivalent, in my
Starting point is 00:44:05 opinion. Single, you know, single parents, you know, broken homes, dads in jail, police brutality, racism, and drugs. You know, drugs was a major factor of my upbringing and my community. Everyone around me was involved. You ever sold drugs at all? No. No. What are you doing here? This guy is crazy. Keep going. I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I apologize. That's envy if he ever sold drugs. Have you ever? No. You haven't? I've scammed, but no drugs. My father's a retired police officer, so there was no drugs ever coming in my crib. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:49 He would have been on you. No, I never. Yeah, so basically, just preparing for the role was interesting. There's so much history, you know, on this drug. And the thing I love about the show, particularly season five, is I'm not sure if you guys are aware about the Lembias case. I was just reading about that
Starting point is 00:45:09 because I didn't know it was a real person. Oh, yeah, yeah. So he was a basketballer in Maryland University in 1986. And essentially, his unfortunate overdose created a snowball effect in America with the Clinton administration. It's basically how Clinton even became president in the first place.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And they introduced mandatory minimums, right? So all these mandatory laws of, you know, getting caught with like a gram of crack was the same as 100 grams of cocaine. And what that essentially did was it broke up the African-American household. And that's why so many fathers were gone. And that's why we see what we see today. And the show, season five, starts with that. Correlating to Franklin having nearing $100 million now, living the high life.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Beautiful place to live. The penthouse. Jerome and Louie are on horses. Leon's like a Franklin in his own right a boss girlfriend exactly loyal
Starting point is 00:46:09 so you're seeing him enjoying this lifestyle like so many people in the 80s did but then you're seeing the demise of a community
Starting point is 00:46:18 you're seeing people like Wanda Bell trying to find a sense of redemption after everything that she's been through from being addicted to this drug.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Singleton would say that black people have been affected in many ways but crack cocaine was the only thing that made black mothers leave their children. Wow. So that's a deep thing, man. Alright, we got more with
Starting point is 00:46:43 Damson Idris From Snowfall When we come back It's the Breakfast Club Good morning Good morning everybody It's DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlamagne Tha Guy
Starting point is 00:46:52 We are the Breakfast Club We're still kicking it With Damson Idris You know him from Snowfall Yee Now Franklin's trying to Go legit And we know how hard
Starting point is 00:47:00 That is to do Especially when you have So many things in your past That are always gonna be Catching up to you And having a baby On the way too That's a big deal because you have to do anything you can at all means possible to make sure that you take care of this child that's on the way you've made a commitment yeah to do that with your girlfriend i was thinking about this
Starting point is 00:47:18 for some reason i don't really trust her and i know we're only two episodes in. He has bad experiences with women. Yes. And so for that reason, I'm like, what is about to happen? Wow. So my backstory with Veronique's character is essentially this. You remember in season three, Franklin kind of took the Mosleys out of that house. He basically kind of conned this old couple out of their bookstore. So he was taken to court and the person that
Starting point is 00:47:46 was their representative was veronique and they won that case and he kind of fell for her and kind of hired her on his team and wanted to build with her something led to another and then boom now they're together you know the show is this drug trade is a tricky thing. Loyalty could could go so quickly when your life is on the line and your life really is on the line 24 7. So, yeah, stick with the show, man. That's all I can say. I just don't trust it. I don't know what it is like. Yeah, she's.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yeah. Keep watching. Keep watching. OK, so I might be on to something. You might be on to something. You might not. Oh, well, you're a producer, so you should be able to know what's about to happen. Oh, I know everything.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Goodness gracious. I've seen all, all I can say is I've seen all episodes. You're trying to get this bitch twice on your side. I know, yeah, exactly. It's twice a day we try to get you on your side. And then you killed your friend. Yeah. I felt like, okay, white rob, right?
Starting point is 00:48:38 I feel like that wasn't necessary, but. Why do you think it wasn't necessary? Because people don't agree with you. I mean, okay, he was a little sloppy, and he was telling your business. He told dad about the CIA? Yeah. Yeah. But he could have...
Starting point is 00:48:53 I don't know. That's your friend from, like, when you were young. Franklin's in a different place now. You know, he knows what's important. What's important is his family and the baby he has on the way. And I think a lot of people could relate to that, making horrible decisions. Killing your best friend? Maybe he was going to bring down the whole, bring down the empire.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah, he would have. He would? He would have brought that. And I was going to ask, you know, a lot of times in real life, and not in just movies, you see these drug dealers, they make enough where they can get out, but they can never get out. Yeah, yeah. Is that what's going to happen to this character? Like, just never get out but they can never get out yeah yeah is that what's gonna happen to this character like you just never get out because you always want to see you want to see the you know what they do to the community you see the money that they make but you kind of want to
Starting point is 00:49:32 see them ride off on that white horse but yeah it's never that white horse that's the game man that's the game and that's what we're trying to preach to these kids not preach but just let them know man it's not worth it it really isn't worth it that's that's what this show's teaching me you know as if you really look at this season as much money as franklin makes he's not happy what's the point of doing something if you know i act because i'm it makes me happy correct if it didn't make me happy i wouldn't do it so i think that's hopefully what i hope happens with franklin is there's a redemptive quality to him. You know, he's done some horrible things.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I'm hoping by the end of it, he realizes that it wasn't worth it. And hopefully he can redeem himself in some way. I was going to ask when it comes to American movies and, you know, sometimes people feel that, you know, actors that don't live in America and they take these parts that it's a problem. I know when Idris Elba comes up with some parts, it was like, well, he's not American or yourself. Do you have a what are your thoughts on those things? And I think it's a beautiful conversation because I think it's going to push us forward. And you can't help but acknowledge when a group of people feel type away. So it's just about listening really um i will say i'm an actor i make believe for a living so the very concept of my job is to
Starting point is 00:50:54 pretend to be something else um what i do want to see though i want to see more people working in america in the uk you know i saw tessa Tessa Thompson playing a Brit in a passing. That was fire. Denzel just did Tragedy at Macbeth. And there's examples of people working in the past. So Viola's about to do A Woman King. Forrest Whitaker played Idi Amin. You know, Denzel played a Brit in For Queen of Country. You know, acting is about transformation. I feel like acting is who does the best job.
Starting point is 00:51:22 It doesn't matter who you are. Like, people get caught up in, you know, let's say you have to pay a handicapped person and somebody might say, well, there's handicapped actors out there that can take that position. But my thing is who does the best job at the part? If they're from Britain, if they're from Africa,
Starting point is 00:51:39 it doesn't matter. Whoever does the best job because you're acting, it's a part, you know? Yeah, yeah. And, you know, it's a story at the end of of the day the most important thing is that the story is being told representation is very key i'm not saying representation isn't key it's very key but we must realize that so much goes into making movies this is the movie business it's not the movie play you have to make money you know and and what's happening now is
Starting point is 00:52:07 we're giving people opportunities so that they can um raise their platform so say you are a handicap actor or a transgender actor or whatever you're able to raise your platform so that you can be in a position to green light movies in the future that's what we're working at today in the industry which i think is brilliant um but right now if a movie is ready and a movie is ready to go now and you want to cast someone and Jonathan Majors isn't available and Lakeith Stanfield isn't available and those guys have green light power. But this Brit actor or this African actor has green light power, too, and they could get bums on the seat. You're going to cost that person. That's how it that's how it works. Right. At the top.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I like to say we're playing at the NBA level of acting. No shade to smaller projects, but when it gets up there, the field and the net is a lot wider and people are from different places. It's the same in sports. That's like saying Giannis shouldn't be playing because he's he's not like it's you know at that level and you need to work to get to that level you know you need to put in the 10 000 hours and so many actors have and what i'm realizing is you know it's uh the arrows being thrown at actors who have found success but the reason they found success because they've been working for so long. Absolutely. Behind the, and you know, they're finally at a place
Starting point is 00:53:26 where they're able to benefit from it. But with me personally, I'm just here to do what makes me happy and to make my mom proud, man. And I've done those things. Everything else is a bonus. I always tell people, you know, if you don't wanna watch the circus, you know, buy tickets for another show. You know, it's no shade.
Starting point is 00:53:47 There's millions of people who love what I do. There's millions of people who this is a small thing, but, you know, there's guys in jail who hit me up like, yo, bro, you got me through my sentence. I'm supposed to stop what I'm doing, which is why you do it. It's exactly why I do it. All right, we got more with Damson Idris when we come doing, which is why you do it. That's exactly why I do it. All right, we got more with Damson Idris when we come back.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You know him from Snowfall. And don't forget, Charlamagne is out today. So if you want to give Donkey of the Day to somebody, 800-585-1051. Call us up right now at The Breakfast Club. Good morning. DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:54:22 We're still kicking it with Damson Idris. You know him from Snowfall. Yee? Are you still taking it with Damson Idris. You know him from Snowfall. Yee? Are you still taking piano lessons? Whoa. Damn. So let's break this down. Where were you taking piano lessons?
Starting point is 00:54:32 Where did we see him playing piano? I don't know. Julian. Julian? No, no. Where did we see him playing piano, Yee? I'm just asking. I saw you were taking piano lessons or something like that.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Oh, damn. I did see a video of... It looked like you were good with your hands. Oh, my Lord. Was that Saweetie's piano? Wow. Who's Saweetie? I don't know. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Me and that woman. You're blushing. I'm not blushing. I'm not blushing. I don't know dogs can be blushing. I'm nervous. I'm not blushing. No, no.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Me and that queen are just friends. She's a great pianist. I didn't say you guys weren't. I was just asking about the piano lessons. Yeah, yeah, me and that queen are just friends. She's a great piano player. I didn't say you guys weren't. I was just asking about the piano lessons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a great piano player. And I didn't know she could play piano. I didn't even think the world knew.
Starting point is 00:55:15 So I was like, oh, this is a cool moment. I just posted. But people thought it was something else. Let me ask you a question. Like, you know, I don't know if Angelina can play the piano because I'm not at her house to learn. I don't know if Taylor, who's over here, our producer, knows. I don't know if Angelina can play the piano because I'm not at her house to learn. I don't know if Taylor, who's over here, our producer, knows.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I don't know if she can play the piano. So how did you get to Saweetie's house to see that she could actually play the piano? So she's a huge Snowfall fan, right? And that day we were at lunch, I think, talking about how we could collaborate because we actually wanted to get her. We had a date before.
Starting point is 00:55:43 No, it wasn't a date. It's work, he said. Guys and... Talking talking about collaborating you know guys and girls could be friends yeah absolutely yeah i agree with you that's exactly what me and and uh dr we were friends okay all right so go ahead so y'all you're on a date eating i'm sorry oh my god eating lunch yeah but so we're having lunch and then she wanted to show me her new place because I love cb2 and I was gonna give her some ideas about furniture and art and then boom we went and then she's playing a piano that's it I was in if like five minutes and I dipped out she's a friend she's a friend of mine I mean of course you guys knew that was going to make the internet go crazy, though.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Yeah. Because people also would like, they would be such a cute couple. Those people would be a cute couple. But you were in a long-term relationship prior to that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened with that? Oh, boy. This is where you should answer the drug question.
Starting point is 00:56:43 This is going to be the one. Oh, my God. is where you should answer the drug question. This is going to be the one. Oh, my God. This lever is what? We're still really close, really good friends. I was with her for a very long time. I met her when I was 18 years old. Who knows, man? Who knows what could happen in the future?
Starting point is 00:57:01 She's very much still in my life. We talk like every single day it's so funny you know people struggle to um keep relationships with their exes but i am at a place in my life now where i everyone i meet i want them to be in my life forever because i realized so many people are coming into my life, taking my energy, hearing my dreams, hearing my stories, and then they're gone. And now they're telling that to the world. So I want people to stay in my life so I can keep that loyalty. And I made that decision with her.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And I know that's a woman that I'm going to know forever. So regardless of what happens in my love life, every relationship just has to deal with that does she call you and say hey a word saweetie's piano dot dot dot did you get that text yeah but like like we know that's she's she's cool she's an amazing woman she's cool she understands you also talk about that uh denzel is your idol as far as acting oh yeah so when you see i don't i don't i don't mess up the young lady's name but when you see the young lady uh interviewing denzel and she mentions your name and he didn't know who you were break that
Starting point is 00:58:16 down when you seen it and how you felt like you watch the tv like oh denzel and he was like who that is and then he has the white guy the white guy oh i don't i don't know who that is no it was it was insane so i was at home um and my phone's your house or sweetie's house wow i'm at my house okay your house i'm at my house by yourself by myself all right just asking yeah by myself and my phone's like blowing up and it's like a bunch of articles and stuff like that. And people are calling me. And it's like, yo, Denzel's like talking about you. I'm like, oh, my God, this is crazy. So then, yeah, he didn't know who I was.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And he called me dancing address. But that was funny, though. That was funny. But, hey, man, it's a new new day you know um it's a new day and you know you could bash uh you know getting notoriety through social media i'm not gonna lie like there's a lot of my kind of existence has been on that through my work and just through just being me um and some people from the past still don't respect that. But look what social media has done for so many people today.
Starting point is 00:59:31 We have to start moving in the direction of the future. But above all things and all of that noise, Denzel Washington is my idol. He's like a god to me. And I'll never have anything bad to ever say about him. Did you ever get up with him after that? Did y'all ever speak? Because I'm sure people try to put y'all together. I'm sure there's people that he knows that you know.
Starting point is 00:59:54 No, I haven't seen him. But I like to fantasize that he's at home watching Snowfall. Let me find out. Oh, that boy good. Because of how much people talked about it i'm sure it made him feel like damn i should know who he is hopefully because it was it was crazy i will say though you know to journalists when you present a new actor or a new musician or someone you like like to some of these these giants please present them in the right way. She presented me like all day I'm in my living room topless.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So he's like social media is cute but do the work. I'm like been doing the work. You're like I'm working sir. Just so he knows I remember when Lil Wayne when they were asking Lil Wayne about new artists and Lil Wayne was like I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And people were getting on him like he's one of the biggest artists little Wayne was like yo I'm in my own bubble yeah in my own world yeah and people got on him and it could be the same thing he could be in his own world and like you said he doesn't know but I'm sure he knows now I'm sure after this he did his homework he had to yeah man I I would hope so and like I said man he he is just fantastic. You know, he's a great example of class, good taste, prestige. And that's the essence. And y'all never met before? Never met him, no. What's next for you?
Starting point is 01:01:15 What is some roles that you want to do? Wow. Is there something that you're like, I would love to do that role? That's my dream role. Is it an action figure? Something musical. I love playing real people. So I'd love to play Eddie Murphy,
Starting point is 01:01:29 Sidney Poitier, Fela Kuti. I'm actually... I don't know. Am I allowed to say? Do you know who Rich Paul is? Yeah. I'm about to play Rich Paul. Really? Rich Paul the agent?
Starting point is 01:01:44 Yeah. He said, do I know who Rich Paul is? He has a show, something about him coming out, or it's in something where Rich Paul is a character? No. Does he? No, I'm asking you. It's something where he's.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Does he? I don't know. He's asking you. Yeah. I don't think he has a show coming out, but he's a really good friend of mine, and there's people behind his window like, why did you say that? But he called me.
Starting point is 01:02:10 He was like, tell the world. And I think we should. It's time we start cherishing black moguls. I agree. And Rich is someone that people need to know. This guy has completely changed the game. I'm happy and fortunate to call him a big brother, and I can't wait to honor his story.
Starting point is 01:02:28 That's great. He actually, right here, approached LeBron in the airport selling jerseys. Exactly. I know his story. That's crazy. And that's how they met each other. Yeah, yeah, that's insane. And then he's, as a black sports agent,
Starting point is 01:02:39 he gets looked at in a completely different way. The white sports agents were so angry that he was able to come in and get, like, the biggest NBA player. Yeah. That'll be a good story. It's going to be amazing, man. And I'm really excited. We should start telling the stories now
Starting point is 01:02:51 while they're alive. Yeah. I just hate sometimes when we wait until somebody passes away to tell their story. Yeah. Like you want to give them their flowers now. What he's done for, how he's changed, like you said,
Starting point is 01:03:00 the NBA and the sports agencies is just really amazing. Yeah, yeah. Remember they tried to make it so that you had to be like a certain amount of classes. It was a whole big deal. One year in college or something like that. Yeah, yeah. And it was really based on him.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Yeah, yeah. With him to have the power he had. Completely transformed the game. And it's funny, I was at the Super Bowl. I was jumping from suite to suite. Yeah, we saw. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I was with him, Kevin, and Braun, too.
Starting point is 01:03:27 And, you know, I'm just completely inspired by those people. Like I say, I'm fortunate to be in some really good circles, man. I'm learning. But Damson has to leave now. Oh, man. All right, good. I would try to get a couple of spoilers out of you. I know.
Starting point is 01:03:40 You're really good, though. But I think I did well. But we appreciate you for joining us, brother. Bless you. No, we really do, yes. And good luck with everything, man. I love the fact know you're really good though but i think i did well but we appreciate you for joining us brother and congratulations good luck with everything man i love the fact that you're producing i can't wait to see what else you have coming up um just because we met you so like a few years ago and i think it's just amazing to see where you are and where the show is now and a large part of that is because of you so oh man that means so much man thank you thank you so much well it's damson idris it's the Breakfast Club Good morning
Starting point is 01:04:06 Well Laverne Cox co-hosted the E! Red Carpet Ahead of the SAG Awards that happened on Sunday. And people were upset about this question that she asked Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith on the red carpet. Thank you for all the years of joy you've brought us. Thank you. We can't wait for more Red Table Talk and more entanglements. No more entanglements. No more entanglements. No more entanglements. Now people were saying that it was tacky,
Starting point is 01:04:50 that she would ask that on the red carpet and say that to them and tell that type of joke. And here's how she responded on her Instagram live. So I've been thinking about it and I've been, you know, I'm like, okay, let's, if no one is above, no one is above critique I like
Starting point is 01:05:06 to hold myself accountable so the thing is for me I love red table talk I love red table talk and I love what the smiths have done with red table talk and I think my error is that I had so many things I wanted to say to the sm Smiths and we didn't have time. There was probably someone in my ear saying we needed to wrap. You know, my intent was not to mock or make fun of. But obviously, I understand there's a difference between intent and impact. There is nothing but love, though. So she said it's not an apology.
Starting point is 01:05:42 She said if the Smiths need an apology from me, I'll do it privately. I mean, I love I love this. I love when celebrities interview celebrities and they get into this. But what Laverne Cox did. Why do you love that? Because what she did wasn't wrong. Like, she is interviewing and something popped up and she can talk about it. She can make a joke about it. But Laverne Cox also has to understand when people do the same to her,
Starting point is 01:06:00 she has to understand where it comes from as well. But I don't see a problem with it. She did. I mean, it was funny. It got viral. There's nothing wrong with it. But I don't see a problem with it. She did. I mean, it was funny. It got viral. There's nothing wrong with it, but we don't know if they were. Hey, guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.
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Starting point is 01:06:58 lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out
Starting point is 01:07:58 the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel.
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Starting point is 01:08:45 I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help. We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Offended by it or not. But I will say red carpet is different from other interviews because it is supposed to be all like fun and upbeat as people are going to celebrate. They always tell you don't be negative or don't do anything, you know, on the red carpet that could kind of mess up the mood. Correct.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah, the questions we ask here at the Breakfast Club is not the same questions I ask when, on the red carpet that could kind of mess up the mood. Correct. Yeah. The questions we ask here at The Breakfast Club is not the same questions I ask when you do a sit down interview. It's definitely different than being on the red carpet. But as a celebrity, when you go to do these interviews, sometimes you never know what somebody's going to say and you got to accept it. You know, this is your life. You put your life out there.
Starting point is 01:09:38 So people have the right to ask, to joke, to make a funny. It doesn't matter. Yeah. But red carpet etiquette is just different than other things. It's quick and it's fun. I agree. All right, Mary J. Blige is executive producing Real Love. It's a Real Love-inspired Lifetime movie,
Starting point is 01:09:55 so I am so excited for that. So as we all know, Real Love was a song from 1992. Can you believe it was that long ago? From the What's the 411 album, one of my favorite songs. And according to the Lifetime, the project is a coming-of-age romantic drama where Kendra sets off on her own for the first time to a college in upstate New York determined to focus on her studies. But when she meets her film class partner, Ben, she tries her hardest.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Why are you talking like that, Ben? Despite disapproving parents, financial hardship, and competition for the top spot in class, Kendra and Ben find themselves falling hard for each other. Alright, ye. And ultimately learn the meaning of real love. I can't
Starting point is 01:10:38 wait to see it. And shout out to our girl, Ashana. She's one of the producers for it, too. Shout out to Ashana. Ashana gets busy. Ashana hit me the other day. What up, Shauna? Did she hit your heart? No. You deserve it.
Starting point is 01:10:48 No, she needed my kids to do something for Nickelodeon, and she was reaching out to make sure that they were straight. So shout out to Shauna and Tina. All right, well, that is your rumor report. All right, now up next, donkey of the day. Charlamagne is out, so if you want to give somebody donkey of the day, 800-585-1051, you can give them donkey of the day up next.agne is out. So if you want to give somebody Donkey of the Day, 800-585-1051. You can give them Donkey of the Day up next.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Why is everybody saying we deserve it? I don't know. Why do we deserve it? All right. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.
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Starting point is 01:11:37 Hee-haw. It's time for Donkey of the Day. I'm a big boy. I can take it if you feel I deserve it. Ain't no big deal. I know Charlemagne and God are going to have some funny shit. Say out his mouth. If God says something you may not agree it, it ain't no big deal. I know Charlamagne Tha God gonna have some funny shit. Say out his mouth. If I say something you may not agree with, it doesn't mean I mean it.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Who's getting that donkey? That donkey. That donkey. Donkey. Donkey. Donkey of the day right there. It's the breakfast club, bitches. You can call me the donkey of the day, but like, I mean no harm.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Hello, who's this? This is Leslie. How are you? Hey, Leslie. Good morning. Who's this? DJ En Leslie. How are you? Hey, Leslie. Good morning. Who's this, DJ Envy? Yes, ma'am. Well, I'm sorry, but I want to give the Breakfast Club the donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:12:12 We'll take it. Are you going to give us the donkey of the day? What are we doing? Because y'all try to stiff that family up that $5,000 for that change for change. Oh, see, this is the thing. I seen that yesterday. I had no idea what they were talking about. So I guess they're in change for change. Let me explain how change for change works. I don't even know what happened. I'll take the donkey. I mean see, this is the thing. I seen that yesterday. I had no idea what they were talking about. So I guess they're in Change for Change.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Let me explain how Change for Change works. I don't even know what happened. I'll take the donkey. I mean, I work for the station. So we'll do the Change for Change. So Change for Change, people call up and they ask, you know, they submit why they want, you know, why they need help. And then the people, not the Breakfast Club, people that work here at iHeart, they go through
Starting point is 01:12:42 each one and they find out the different people that they want to give money to. And I believe that guy was picking, was chose to give $5,000. Correct? Yes. Right. And I guess he was chosen and he never got his $5,000.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Ooh. Correct. Oh, you was mentioned to Angela. I know, but I don't know what happened. I'm hearing this now. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:13:01 no, I don't know. I'll take a deep dive and find out where that man's $5,000 is. No, he got it. Oh, so what's the doggy for? Because he had to get the news station on y'all. That's why. Oh, he got the news station on us?
Starting point is 01:13:14 That's crazy. Well, you know, I'll be honest. That's embarrassing. We had nothing to do with it. It's very embarrassing. But I'm glad he did get his money, though. Because we don't even touch that money. Yeah, we don't even touch it.
Starting point is 01:13:24 It's not like we get the money and then we break it down. No, that goes straight to I Heart Corporate. But I love y'all anyway. I listen to y'all every morning. But he got his money. Somebody hit me yesterday. I had no idea what they was talking about. Listen, all I know is Ambie probably bought a house with that somewhere.
Starting point is 01:13:39 You know we didn't get that money. Google it, though. Listen up. Ambie probably was like, yo, I flipped that money. Hello, who's this? Hello. Hey, good morning. Who's this? Good morning, yes.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I'm calling to give donkey of the day. Yes, ma'am. Who you want to give donkey of the day to? Unfortunately, Envy, I got to give donkey of the day to you and your little ye. Why is it little ye? Big ye. Yeah, who's little ye? I said little. It's little ye.e? Big Yee. Yeah, who's Little Yee? I said Angela.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Angela Yee. I didn't say Little. Oh, okay. Okay, why you want to give us Donkey Mama? Okay, I'm sorry. Angela, I'm going to go for you. I love you guys, first of all. Let me get that out there.
Starting point is 01:14:15 I'll listen to you every day. But, Angela, white boy Rob had to go on snowfall. You are heartless. So you would kill your friend from childhood? Childhood friend. The boy turns into a cracker. He turns out. But he's selling crack.
Starting point is 01:14:37 No, well, whatever he was doing, he was ahead. He was a fiend. But imagine Franklin out here heading up the largest crack cocaine distribution and you're going to kill your friend for getting hooked on the same stuff you're selling? Let me tell you something. You are heartless and ruthless. I'm giving you donkey of the day. No, no, no. Don't take my donkey. The next donkey,
Starting point is 01:15:08 DJ Envy. I'm sorry, I have to run with Charlamagne on this. That was some beige, bougie-ish talking about, oh, my dad's a police officer. I'm not around any of that drug. No, I said my dad's a police officer. I never sold drugs. I never sold no drugs.
Starting point is 01:15:24 That's an even better reason to sell drugs. You said, go back to the case, you said I was never really around on the event. I wasn't. The point is, my dad, in the area I live in, my dad was one of the first black police officers in our neighborhood. We have a lot of credibility, yes, I know. But, however, in our family, my dad didn't allow it. Things went down, probably because he was a police officer. Doesn't make it
Starting point is 01:15:49 right. But I probably and being the youngest, I probably saw more stuff than I was supposed to because my dad was a police officer. I just want to put that out there. But I do love you guys. I love you too. Now I'm just saying my dad's a police officer so my dad used to check my drawers. He used to
Starting point is 01:16:05 check my under the bed, my car. Well you should have had a stash spot to put it in. You would have got up. Your dad's a police officer. That's even a better reason. You and your dad could have been right. You could have been running-ish with your dad in Queens. Nah.
Starting point is 01:16:23 My dad wasn't playing that. My dad would have locked me up if I was selling drugs. You could have been running-ish with your dad in Queens. Nah, my dad wasn't playing that. My dad would have locked me up if I was selling drugs. You could have been the kingpin. Of course, of course. Thank you so much. All right. All right. Donkey of the day.
Starting point is 01:16:37 800-585-1051. I'm watching this seven on your side. You missed your calling. I'm watching this seven on your side. Woo! I'm glad he got his money, though. But it ain't nothing to do with me. They said they tried to contact him three times.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Mm-mm-mm. Don't get a date. Both things. 800-585-1051. When we come back, Erica Alexander and Rebecca Howard will be joining us. They have a new podcast, Finding Tamika, to tell us all about it. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:17:03 The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Usually we do Ask Yee here, but today we got some special guests joining us. We have Erica Alexander and Rebecca Howard.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Now they have a new podcast called Finding Tamika Out. Good morning, ladies. Good morning. How are y'all? Welcome. Good morning, Charlamagne. What I love about Erica is that you're doing big things, but you came in and congratulate us on what we have going on. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:17:33 I'm trying to keep up with y'all. Setting the world on fire, all the things that you've accomplished, but also being in the Hall of Fame, the radio. That's a big deal. And to have done it so young and keep doing things, especially for the community and all that you represent i say thank you because it's really a phenomenal thing to watch thank you and us being young is subjective okay you know hey it's all good and you guys are healthy so that's good well y'all are here to talk uh finding tamika yeah
Starting point is 01:18:05 what what is what is finding tamika well we have the great uh rebecca howard here and she'll tell you why finding tamika matters but finding tamika is an audible original series um produced by sbh productions that's you and kevin hart and color farm media that's me and rebecca and Color Farm Media, that's me, and Rebecca and David Persons and Ben Arnon and Molten Hearts, James T. Green. It's about Tamika Houston. Tamika Houston went missing in Spartanburg, South Carolina in 2004. She was nearly 25 years old. What's unique about her story is she became the poster child
Starting point is 01:18:43 for what Gwen Ifill calls missing white women syndrome. Why? Because at the time, Rebecca Howard, who is her aunt and also has a background and skill set in publicity, could not get the national publicity that she deserved for her niece. And she made stink about it. And she basically also the two women who started the black and missing foundation one of them came from Spartanburg and so she became not only the poster child but I think the reason why things started to change on what the black community could do about it yeah I read this stat and it was nuts to me Rebecca and you can speak to this that 30 percent
Starting point is 01:19:21 of people missing are of color and only 7% receive media coverage? Yeah, it's incredible. It's like if you were to just watch the coverage that we've seen over the years, you would think there was like an epidemic of missing, young missing white women in this country. And for I think a number of years, particularly the cable networks, they found a formula that worked. And they saw when they covered these cases like a Natalie Holloway or a Lacey Peterson. And we saw it really recently with Gabby Petito when they covered these cases like they were soap operas with constant updates and little twists and turns.
Starting point is 01:19:59 They saw, you know, people were engaging online. People were tuning into these stories. So that worked for them and they kept doing it, which is, you know, I always say those women, their families miss them and love them just as much as I love Tamika. They certainly deserve their stories to be told, but not to the exclusion of my niece and other women and girls who look like Tamika. And that's the roadblock that I, you know, ran into. And I think there was a naivete on my part when my beautiful niece went missing. And I knew that my background is in PR. I had the media contacts. I had the skill set. I knew what to do, but I was met with silence and I wasn't
Starting point is 01:20:39 getting any phone calls back. Like I was shocked. Again, I think I was naive and thinking like, hey, I see these stories out here. Surely my niece's, you know, Tamika's story is just as engaging and people will care, but they did not. And it really wasn't until, you know, several months of me, you know, doing this and doing this, and I think the only responses that I was getting was
Starting point is 01:21:00 from black media. You know, at the time, Russ Parr Morning Show, and these are people because i had relationships with them tom joiner um black america web you know like they they were they were covering it and but beyond that outside of our community i couldn't get anything what were the police saying because i always hear stories about how they're like oh well maybe she ran away or maybe this yeah right i know that's that's very common that I think that happens a lot, particularly more so in the black community. I think that there is, unfortunately, with police, oftentimes there is some sort of preconceived
Starting point is 01:21:33 notion that they may be involved in criminal activity or certainly is like a runaway problem. I would say I think I was fortunate with the police in Spartanburg. After initially, I would say maybe the first couple of phone calls, there was kind of that hesitancy. But I got on a plane. I live in Miami. I got on a plane, flew to South Carolina, and I went and sat in their office, I was like, I'm not leaving until I get a media release put out by you all. Because the media, even local media, didn't want to hear it from me. They wanted to make sure that it was an active police investigation. So I was fortunate in that my persistence, I think, paid off. But also, I think I was blessed with investigators who were sympathetic to this case and did do right by us and Tamika and our family. And that's not, I know, always the case. I know you said black media played a big role.
Starting point is 01:22:31 I was reading that MSNBC's Tiffany Cross played a big role as well. It's wild because, again, America's Most Wanted was one of my first targets. And I was writing. I was even faxing. This is 2004. We're was even faxing this is back you know this is 2004 we're still using fax machines I'm faxing not getting anywhere with the executive producer of the show and somehow or another I didn't know Tiffany but it came across you know her desk and it resonated with her again Tiffany will say you know Tamika I look at her picture she looks like me she looks
Starting point is 01:23:03 my you know she could be me She could be one of my cousins. And that's another thing why representation of media is so important. And she told, you know, her producer, her senior producer, hey, this story matters. Let me do this story. Let me go to Spartanburg. Let me, you know, tell Tamika's story. And she did. And, you know, she was a young field producer at the time and I really was thankful for her
Starting point is 01:23:26 because actually getting Tamika's case on America's Most Wanted led to one of the biggest breaks that we had in the case. We got a phone call in from a young woman who happened to see it and she could describe the crime scene, the room in which Tamika was killed. Yeah, she was like, put two and two together.
Starting point is 01:23:46 She had, you know, been in that space. She called to tell them that they had dressed it wrong. It wasn't like that at all. Really? Yes. Yeah, she's basically like, yeah, the way it looked. You find out in the audio that she's also 15 years old. Wow.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah. Why would she know? Yeah. So it matters. It's not just the, it's not as loved ones of the missing. We just, I don't want attention on myself. I don't, you know, this is not anything that you'd wish on your worst enemy, but it matters because these, not only do you get, you may get tips that we got, it also puts pressure on the police who are investigating. That's right.
Starting point is 01:24:30 If you have CNN, MSNBC, if you have national reporters calling you to ask what the status is on that case, not only in the investigators, the investigators feel the pressure, but their bosses, you know, the chief of the police department, there is pressure put, you know, brought to bear. And we've seen that recently in many cases. You know, once the media gets involved and there's, you know, now with social media, if people care and they feel as though they have something greater to answer to, it matters. That's one of the reasons why social media has been a benefit, I would say. It's leveled the playing field somewhere.
Starting point is 01:25:06 A little. I do think so. I didn't have that, you know, in 2004, we had none of that. But I absolutely agree. It's so much easier, I think, to kind of get traction, you know, nowadays. Yeah, this stuff is kind of a narcotic. You think about it, there are people who dig, you know, the blood and guts of this type of thing. But if you put a white,
Starting point is 01:25:29 blonde face on it, especially young, like they did with JonBenet Ramsey, for 20 years we've been dealing with that addiction to that little girl's death.
Starting point is 01:25:37 But that's just a symptom of a larger problem. You know, the damsel in distress and people who are vulnerable, the most vulnerable, are not often portrayed as black or people of color. And you're seeing
Starting point is 01:25:50 that with the indigenous people. That's a huge issue. Alright, we got more with Erica Alexander and Rebecca Howard. When we come back, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Erica Alexander and Rebecca Howard.
Starting point is 01:26:08 They have a new podcast called Finding Tamika. It focuses on the disappearance and murder of Tamika Houston. What are the positive emotions that a project like this does? You get to be on The Breakfast Club and talk to a whole mess of people who this has probably happened to. And I know there's been a lot of talk and projects lately about it, and I'm glad for it. There can't be enough of them. The truth is there are a lot of people out there suffering that don't know what to do,
Starting point is 01:26:37 and they need to know that they're not only not alone, but there are foundations now and resources in place, and they're getting better at it, but we all need to support it. That's one thing to talk about. The other thing is it tells on us. It's a warning for us all. If we don't do anything about this, all of us, everyone, that's not a white and black thing. That's not a gender thing. We're doomed, because I believe great civilizations are, I think, how you're judged is your ability to protect the most vulnerable. And that's often women and children. But that's also trans. It's anybody that's vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:27:09 And if you don't, it doesn't mean that you're just under distress. I think your demise and your destruction is near. If you cannot do that, then you cannot be a so-called empire. What about you, Rebecca? How did the project... What's the positive emotions this brings out of you? One of the things we talk about in the series is
Starting point is 01:27:30 Tamika's presence is still around, it's still felt and it's very much the case and I think through doing this, it made me feel her again in a way that I don't think that I felt that presence probably
Starting point is 01:27:46 from, you know, around the time she was, you know, when she was still missing, it was a 15 month long period. And then she was very present shortly thereafter, like I became pregnant with twins and she was very much like present then. So, but it had been several years kind of since I felt that and I felt it again and that felt good you know because I think over time you know memories start to fade a little bit or it just becomes you know more and more distance um when you lose someone like that but it just felt good to have her kind of like around again and that that's how Tamika is. She's very present. And she kind of, I feel like she straddles between these worlds and
Starting point is 01:28:30 with messages, but she very much had her hand, I think, on this project too. Oh, most definitely. Unfortunately, that scared the living daylights out of me. Why? Well, listen, my father was a preacher. I'm not particularly religious myself, but I'm very spiritual.
Starting point is 01:28:45 I believe that there are many things you cannot explain. And after we did the interviews, I was frightened to death, not only with the overwhelming issue. Well, I wanted to be responsible toward the family. And when you really have empathy for somebody, you want to make sure you do it right. You say all the what-ifs happen, and you realize that you're stepping into something that's not just a bunch of interviews and you do it right. You don't, you say all the what ifs happen and you realize that you're
Starting point is 01:29:05 stepping into something that's not just a bunch of interviews and you're gathering things. You're now a part of it and you're accepting that burden. And to accept it means to also acknowledge that I could feel the presence of Tamika still in this space. But I asked her, I said, look, you're probably here and that's fine. Please don't reveal any more of yourself to me because I've got a job to do. And I can't be overwhelmed with that because I'm a person who that will distract. And I was just telling her that I had a limit. And I think that we had a cool thing. I mean, yeah, I went and got some crystals. I called Reverend Barber. I said, Reverend Barber, I'm feeling a certain kind of way.
Starting point is 01:29:46 He counseled me. He told me what he thought about this and how to handle it. And then James T. Green, who was the sound and executive producer on this and the co-writer, he said sometimes he would feel Tamika's hands on his shoulder, just on his shoulder. He happened to have a cousin chinesia who passed away i shouldn't say passed away disappeared and so he was doing it for to say her name but he said erica i sometimes feel tamika on my shoulder but he was all right with that i said i i know she could be there but please don't put don't massage me. I'm good, you know.
Starting point is 01:30:31 And truly, she was a ghost that was talking to these people and telling them things. Well, I would have to assume, Rebecca, she's done that for you as well. Like a lot of times when, you know, you decided to pick up the phone to call certain people, you might have felt the guiding force. force it's it's it's interesting because Tamika actually sometimes I don't know if some people are more receptive to receiving those types of messages because I feel things but I think I'm very irrational like thinker and I doubt it a lot so I may hear something in my head but I'm like maybe that's me willing you know I'm trying to make a conversation happen. So I'm less inclined to believe that it's actually her. Tamika actually took and we talk about this in the series, took to getting messages through to a complete stranger, an older retired woman in South Carolina, never met her in her life she started giving this woman messages not only for the police to help with the investigation but eventually after we found Tamika and you know I think like the case was getting her murderer was getting ready to go to trial she started giving me personal messages about myself
Starting point is 01:31:39 about you know my pregnancy was having a difficult pregnancy and so forth it messages that no one would have the you know no this pregnancy. I was having a difficult pregnancy and so forth. Messages that no one would have. This woman was a stranger. I had no reason to know. So I think she'll get through to you the way that she can get through to you. Because it wasn't coming through directly. So, you know, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:31:58 It's interesting. She became an ancestor. She really did. And she had something more to say. It wasn't about the murder and the death. It was about her life, which is really what this is. And we don't see it as a celebration of just her life. We see it also as telling her story, the truth of who she was. She was a complicated individual, three-dimensional, with flaws and everything.
Starting point is 01:32:20 As we all are. As we all are. The thing is, the problem is, if you make a person three-dimensional, they may not look for them. Because they'll say, well, look, they deserve it. That type of thing. So you try to put them in the best light as possible. You see, as black people and brown, we're always trying to find the best picture. Because they'll find the worst pictures of...
Starting point is 01:32:36 You have to. Yeah, you have to. You have to. You know, breast is out and all that. Oh, look how she was. So we're always trying to navigate how we see and how we're portrayed. The thing is that she very clearly, I felt, was like, tell them everything. Tell them as well as you can everything.
Starting point is 01:32:54 So I'm three-dimensional, but I also can. I think she wanted to speak to her responsibility and accountability and having gotten herself in that position. And I thought that was brave finding Tamika is available Right now on audible is narrated by the beautiful voice. You've been hearing in here Erica Alexander Rebecca, thank you for coming and just thank you for having me. Thank you so much Thank you for not just for not stopping the fight. Thank you for continuing to fight. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for not stopping the fight. Thank you for continuing the fight. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. I hate you. I hate you. Damn, Envy, relax. It's the song, I hate you. Okay, it just sounds, you know, aggressive.
Starting point is 01:33:44 All right, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, you know, aggressive. Alright, morning everybody. It's DJ MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne the God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk candy. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor report. Rumor report. This is the rumor report with Angela Yee
Starting point is 01:34:00 on The Breakfast Club. Well, let's get ready for Candy Burris' new show, Candy and the Gang, that's coming on this Sunday at 9 p.m. Eastern. But in the meantime, she's been doing press around her new show, and she's been talking about
Starting point is 01:34:14 The Real Housewives of Atlanta, of course. And she had hinted before that she had issues with somebody in class with someone on the show. She didn't say who it was, but on Daily Blast Live, here's what she had to say. Marlo and I, we had some real serious
Starting point is 01:34:28 beef that happened this year. It was crazy. I wasn't expecting it because I was really one of the main people who were rooting for her to get her peach. I did not think that we would have that type of a falling out, but we
Starting point is 01:34:44 were able to fix it. I don't want to say, you know, it's not like we're still in a bad place. But at that time, I wasn't sure if we were going to come back from it, you know. All right. Something to look forward to on Real Housewives of Atlanta. Now, Jennifer Hutton is going to be hosting a daytime talk show on Fox Stations. And that is going to start in fall of 2022. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:07 She said, I've experienced so much in my life. I've seen the highest of the highs, the lowest of the lows, and just about everything in between. But as my mother always told me, once you think you've seen it all, just keep on living. People from around the world have been a part of my journey from the beginning 20 years ago, and I'm so ready to join their journey as we sit down and talk about the things that inspire and move us all. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Congratulations to her. It first went into development last November, so it will debut not long after the Ellen DeGeneres Show signs off in the spring. All right. BET has announced a Murder, Inc. documentary series. It's a five-part television event called Murder, Inc., and it will explore the untold tale of the rise, fall, and redemption of one of hip-hop's most iconic labels and its founder and CEO, Irv Gotti.
Starting point is 01:35:50 So that will premiere this summer. That's going to be interesting. I mean, they got stories. I mean, if they get into it, you know, the court case, all the artists, how they broke their artists, all the stuff that Irv's produced. I mean, it's going to be interesting. All right. Now, speaking of documentaries, they are going to be doing
Starting point is 01:36:06 Gifted and Black, and that is going to follow the journey of Versus. So get ready for that. Amazon Studios and Hillman Grab Productions and Good Trouble Studios are partnering for this feature length documentary. And as you know, Lena Waithe is
Starting point is 01:36:21 Hillman Grab Productions, so she'll be producing under that alongside Swizz and Timbaland. Deserved. They well deserved. All right. And Dame Dash is doing a paid in full sequel, and that will be a franchise with multiple series, also a documentary, also a car show.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Here's what he had to say. I'm casting the cars right now. You know, the B bbs boys they're actually running around the world selecting the best illest paid and full mobiles and then i'm interviewing everybody from different perspectives and mine is one of them because i was there right i mean but you know there's lou sims perspective from the lynch mob. We grew up together. We were close. Pause.
Starting point is 01:37:07 And then there's Jay Black's perspective, who was in my media crew, the best out. But he was, you know, Rich's lieutenant. So, you know, he was right there. Why do you have to pause when you say we were close? That's just Dame. That's just some Harlem thing. All right. But shout out to the Jasmine brand.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Jasmine actually did that interview exclusively on her site. She also has a baby now, so congrats on that, Jasmine. Congrats to her. And shout out to the BBS boys. BBS boys, they come to all my car shows.
Starting point is 01:37:33 They're pretty big in that era, that 88, that 80 to 90 era cars, whether it's the BMWs, the Suzuki Samurais, the old Benzes. They're pretty big in that.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I got a couple of cars there as well, so they always come to my shows. Shout out to them. Don't ruin it. So're pretty big in that. I got a couple of cars there as well. So they always come to my show. Shout out to them. Don't ruin it. So they're going to have their own. I'm in support. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Now, the Wendy Williams Show has announced new guest hosts for the final season. It's coming to an end, as you know, after 14 seasons on the air. So they're going to air live shows with rotating guest hosts that will include Remy Ma, Fat Joe, Kim Whitley, Finesse Mitchell, Carson Kressley, and Vivica A. Fox. All of them will trade off their hosting duties from March 7th through April 1st. And then Sherri Shepherd is going to be replacing that time slot with her own talk show called Sherri.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Okay. And she'll also continue on as a guest host as well. Up next is the People's Choice Mix. Get your request in. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.
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Starting point is 01:38:56 That is not what it says, Andy. So, what is going on, Yee? This is spicy up here. Yee is getting dresses sent to her. Woo! What's going on, Yee? I'm a bridesmaid in Notorious Wedding. You're a bride? Somebody's sending her? Woo! What's going on ye? I'm a bridesmaid in Notori's wedding. You're a bride? Somebody sent you
Starting point is 01:39:08 a bride? What is going on? You know what's funny? So she had her bridal shower the other day and, you know, I was reposting some of the stories and then one of my exes hit me like, you're getting married? Now, mind you, Notori's wearing all white and she's gone on like, it's clearly she's the bride
Starting point is 01:39:23 to be. And I was like, yeah, I to be and i was like yeah i am and he was like i hope i'm invited to the wedding imagine me inviting my ex to my wedding no that that would be foul so so oh so the dress is for your bridesmaid so why they send the dress up here because i don't like sending stuff to my home because people steal okay all right i don't know if you get packages stolen but you know they steal from me all the time and my package will be sitting outside and I think you know people just come and take it
Starting point is 01:39:52 it would be cute to see a bunch of Brooklyn scammers outside in that big red dress and I watch it on camera goodness gracious also shout out to Damson Idris for joining us this morning from Snowfall of course yes are you going to watch the show finally? Yes, I am.
Starting point is 01:40:07 All right. Yes, I am. Do they have it on the plane? Everybody, it's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, you got a positive note? Yes, and for everybody out there who is cynical, who is negative, I want to quote the late, great Biggie Smalls,
Starting point is 01:40:25 damn right I like the life I live because I went from negative to positive. And it's all good. And if you don't know, now you know. So the power of positive thinking, let's implement that right away. Change your thoughts because your thoughts become things. Breakfast club, bitches.
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