The Breakfast Club - David and Tamela Mann and more

Episode Date: September 6, 2021

Today on the show we flashed back to when Michael Blackson stopped by on the show and proposed to his girlfriend! Moreover, we also had Erica Ford and Andre Norman stop by who spoke about the "Academy of Hope" and its importance. Also, they had David and Tamela Mann stop by who spoke about new music and obstacles they have faced during their relationship. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.

What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast

Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.

Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing thing alicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts it's time it's time it's time to wake up dj and angela yeats and charlemagne the god the breakfast club bitches the voice of the culture people watch the breakfast club for Time to wake up. DJ N, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God. The Breakfast Club, bitches. The voice of the culture. People watch The Breakfast Club for light news and really be tuned in.

It's one of my favorite shows to do. Just because y'all always keep it 100, y'all keep it real. They might not watch the news, but they're on Twitter. They're on Facebook. They're, you know, they're listening to The Breakfast Club. Get your ass up. Get it in your chest. This is your time to get it off your chest. This is your time

to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. So you better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, Breakfast Club.

It's Chris out of Toledo, Ohio. What's up, bro? Peace, King. Get it off your chest, man. Hey, good to hear from you guys, man. It was really nice that I really got through.

I just want to say thank you to DJ Envy and the Legee. You guys always talk about real estate. I just bought my first house. Yay! It's fantastic. And I'm sitting here, and I got my three-month-old baby with me. Her name's Summer. Congratulations.

I was looking at houses this morning when Envy came in. That's great. Man, it's a really good feeling. Back to back, newborn baby in a new house. Toast to you and to your family. That's amazing. What those interest rates look like? What those interest rates look like, though?

Two and a half, man. Oh, that's great. That's beautiful. Congratulations. So you put down, what, 3.5%? I got also a welcome home grant that everybody should look into. The state of Ohio covered $5,000. So I walked out of there without putting down any cash or closing costs.

I tell everybody there's a million and one grants out there. All you got to do your homework. You had to pay PMI though, right? Yeah. All right. Yeah. But still, you ain't had to put down no money. That is a great.

Congrats, congrats, congrats. Fantastic feeling, man. Thank you guys again. And also, want to shout out Charlamagne, too. Thank you for your help with the mental health. Thank you, King. Appreciate you, brother. Thanks, guys.

If you can, DM me, because I want to find out about that grant, so I can put people on to that grant. So if you can, DM me. Welcome home in Ohio. Alright, brother. Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up? This is Mike, man. Mike, what up? Get it off your chest, Mike. What's up? Hey, I got to call

and get this off my chest, man. It's kind of the topic that I was talking about yesterday with Space. Hey, man, I got to tell y'all, man. So the difference between surface, earth, and flat earth, man. I got to tell y'all, man. So, the difference between surface Earth and flat Earth, man, we got to get on that topic, boys. Oh, boy. So, you believe in a flat Earth?

Surface Earth and flat Earth? What is surface Earth, sir? Okay, well, you know the Earth that they say, you know, the regular Earth side that they say go on now with the Earth. The one you live on. Yeah. Okay. A soul car live on. Okay, so if you say we live on that, Charlielamagne, which I disagree on that, then how can you get, okay, if you was a Christian, which I'm not, but if you was a Christian, you was taught

that on the sixth day, God made something that separated the heavens, the heavens above and earth. So that would be something like a firmament, right? I don't believe everything in the Bible, but tell me, I need to know, before we even continue this conversation, what do you think we're living on before we even continue? What are we living on right now?

You want to hang up the phone, but... No, I don't. I asked you a question. I think we kind of live on something like, it's kind of black, but we have like a dome on top of it. We in a it. Okay. We in a globe.

Okay, no doubt. Yeah, yeah. I feel like we in a globe. But at the same time... Do you want to go to outer space? Do you think somebody shakes the globe every now and then to make it snow? Come on, man. I'm just asking a question.

What's wrong? No, seriously. Seriously. Okay, if you can't explain that, then explain to me how can you see a rainbow. Rainbows is always a reflection of something. It's always a reflection of something. That's what rainbow, everybody knows. Everybody knows rainbows are when angels are eating Lucky Charms.

And the Lucky Charms bowl is reflecting off the dome. Okay? And that's what causes the rainbow. And sometimes you shake it, you get a rainbow. Well, he made a lot of good points this morning. Thanks for calling. Have a good day, sir. Man, come on, y'all.

What? I didn't discredit you at all. I just said you made a lot of good points. I'm with you. We live in a globe, bro. You got to love our Breakfast Club. That's why you got to go to space. That's why more people got to go to space so they can see that the Earth is not flat.

I think he's in space. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent or explain how the Earth, we live in a globe. Whatever it may be, call us. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is morning. The Breakfast Club.

Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.

I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. They're 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg.

I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh, my God. What is that?

Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max.

You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people you know, follow and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy and very fun.

Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude,

and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.

Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? Hey, this is King Gemini. What's up? DJ Loose Booty and Dr. Leonard

and Angela Yell. How y'all doing today? Dr. Leonard is fine. DJ Loose Booty is here. Angela Yell. How much you charge for your services, DJ Loose Booty? I don't know. You tell me, doctor. I think $6,900 is a good starting price for you. Hey, you're right. Hey, I'll take care all right have a good one have a good one hello who's this

hello who's this y'all funny so my name is KJ the blunt man out of St. Augustine Florida I wanted to share a little bit of positivity this morning talk to me blunt man uh I definitely just wanted to say everybody give y'all family members a call and give them some motivation and inspiration this morning. And while y'all let it, check out my new song, Empower, and my Empower Clothing line at

empowerclothingwithak.com Okay. Empower. Empower Clothing with Ak. It's lit. We worldwide. We getting celebrities on it right now. Y'all don't want to miss out. Envy, I'll send you the song for your IG message. I know you don't check it, but it's okay.

Blunt Man, I think you need to change the papers too, man. All that tobacco going to eventually catch up to you, brother. I don't smoke. So why'd they call you Blunt Man? Because he's blunt. My last name. That's my last name. Oh, your last name is Blunt.

Okay. All right. We'll salute to you, King. Hello. Who's this last name. Oh, your last name is blunt. Okay. All right. Well, salute to you, King. Hello, who's this? Hello. Hey, what's your name, brother? Hey, yeah, yeah, bro. What's up, man?

Hey, yo, hey, yo. Good morning, y'all, man. I felt good to hear from y'all. I always listen to y'all, bro. I'm from Northern Jersey, man. Thank you, sir. My name's Bill. Everybody know me from Bill, but I wanted to get off my chest because I've been... Uh-oh.

You what? I've been drinking. I've been drinking. What'd you say, sir? Huh? How long? Okay. Oh, damn. For 15 months. And I was held for a robbery I had never committed. Due to the pandemic, when it dropped on me,

I was forced to be able to take a downgraded charge for theft instead of a robbery. And I just wanted to get off my chest, man, because the correction facility is corrupt like a mother******, man. It is. That's what they need to call it, the corruption facility, because they're not trying to correct nothing. They ain't trying to correct ****.

I would suppose, right, it's clear because they ask for people to get help, actually. But actually, they ain't doing nothing about ****, man. They ain't doing about nothing, man. Yeah, they should have trades in there for y'all to learn so when y'all come out, y'all can have some certified training. On another note, it's mad drugs and s*** that's going on around the drug system. And they got a drug program with people to get off addiction

with taking Suboxone and all that shit. And the people ain't really seeking help for it. They using that shit. Sir, next time you... As a community, by being black, we all need to get it together. And we all need to change these systems. Because everybody corrupted around this mother******. I agree with you.

I'm saying, Bill, promote the jersey, man. That's all I want to get off my chest, bro. Yes, sir. Bill, fresh out. I was not safe for work. He don't know that he can't not curse on the radio. He been locked up for 15 months. He pissed off.

He been listening to the podcast. He been listening to all that cursing on podcast. He don't know no better. Hello, who's this? Hey, how's it going? It's Fernando. Good morning. What's up, Fernando?

Get it off your chest. Yes, sir. How's it going? I got a quick question for Charlamagne, man. Yes, sir. I didn't ask you a question. I don't know if somebody ever asked you this, but who's your top three donkeys of all time,

and will you ever consider giving a donkey a Hall of Fame? Yeah, I mean, at the end of the year, we do a top five donkeys of the year. I'm going to be honest with you, top donkeys of all time, Donald Trump is definitely in the top three. I mean, I've given it to him more than anybody. And I'm going to always put myself in the top three because I always say, you know, when you give people the credit, you got to give everybody the credit they deserve

for being stupid, including yourself. I don't know who the third one would be, though. Sounds fair, sounds fair. Y'all want to close the bar on for The Breakfast Club. Thank you, Tim. Thank you, brother. All right, have a good one. Get it off your chest.

800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club good morning now if you just joined us we're talking about sugar daddies now angela yee said she hasn't had a sugar daddy now charlamagne would you like to confess about anything i don't know what you're talking about what you're about

to lie about i'm not gonna lie you didn't're talking about. What you about to lie about? I'm not going to lie. You didn't have an older person that was giving you money? An older person that was giving me money? What are you talking about? Whoa. You had an older lady that was giving you some money. But how did that make her a sugar daddy?

Or a sugar mommy. Did I have a sugar mama? Yeah. I didn't know you could have a sugar mama, but I definitely had an older woman back in the day. Now, what was she giving you money for? Sex. How much was your sex worth? She would give me like $2,000, $3,000.

$2,000? You told us $100 before. I ain't never told y'all that lie. You said some chicken wings. Yes, you did. She would give me fried chicken. She would give me fried chicken. She would give me fried chicken and Twinkies, and she would always give me like $2,000, $3,000.

And a car service home. Your sex was worth fried chicken and Twinkies? And $2,000 two or three thousand dollars and a car service home your sex is worth fried chicken and Twinkies and two three thousand dollars and a car service home you never said two or three thousand before that's a lie I've always said two or three thousand so wait a minute so what I got to do with sugar daddies though was it without grandchild Twinkies that you were eating she ain't got no grandkids you still speak to her now I will say this I'm looking at these rules right to know to know about sugar dating. What? Sugar dating. It's called sugar dating.

Can diabetics sugar date? No. Stay realistic. Successful men seek out sugar babies for a reason, and you need to stay in tune with that. Have the terms and details laid out. They also said the best way is to back yourself unquestionably, so you have to be a fantastic companion, and he'll believe it, too. And be gracious. They're going to shower you

in gifts likely from the very first date. So be gracious about it. From new outfits to money for a new haircut before a nice dinner. It's all part of the arrangement. Okay? Alright. Well, we got Destiny on the line. Destiny, good morning. Hi. Good morning. Now you had a sugar daddy? Destiny definitely had a sugar daddy.

How old was he and how old were you? I was 18 years old he was like 50 years old jesus christ and how much money did he give you oh he was pitching our money to me my brother my mom my sister wow and what did you have to do nothing give him conversation all day just conversation did you ever have to have sex with him? No, not at all. All he wanted to do was sit on the phone and talk. He wanted to know how my day was. He knew what I was doing.

Did he leave you in his will? No, he didn't die. Oh, he's still alive. Why do you think he's dead? How old are you now? I just cut him off. I'm 22 now. I turned 23 next month.

I'm under 13. Oh, so he he only like 54 now he young do you still speak to him no not at all cause he asked for some sugar oh he wanted he wanted to

he was getting that so that's the thing are you a sugar daddy if you not getting none of the sugar that's part of the thing I told you you still consider

a sugar daddy because of the stuff that you're giving up to a younger person yes you still consider a sugar daddy but when she started asking for sugar Do you miss him? No, not one bit. Was he white or black? He was actually white. Okay.

Okay. You had a mayonnaise daddy. You had a white sugar daddy, but you never get black sugar daddy. That's a sodium daddy. That's mayonnaise. Shut up, man. Hello, who is this? Melissa.

Hey, Melissa, you got a sugar daddy? No, my daughter's dad. What? How old's your daughter? Wow. 26. Okay, how old is her sugar daddy? He's 52.

He gives her money? Yeah. Does she have to give up some sugar? He's 52. He gives her money? Yeah. Does she have to give up some sugar? Yes. Wow. How do you feel about that, mom? I don't know. I don't know how to feel. Did you have a sugar daddy? Did she learn from you? Yeah, you know she did. No,

she learned from my cousin. Either way, diabetes runs in y'all family. Does the sugar daddy get stuff for you, too? No, not really. Is he older than you? Yes. God damn.

That's kind of disgusting, don't you think? Y'all done adopted a granddaddy. Oh, my God. What? Is he a nice guy, Elise? Yeah, he's good. He's nice. Real nice.

He taking care of the whole house, huh? What does he do for a living? He a hustler. He a hustler. Is he white or black? He's black. Oh, you mean he a hustler like a drug dealer? What does he do for a living? He's a hustler. He's a hustler. Is he white or black? He's black. Oh, you mean he's a hustler, like a drug dealer? Yeah, yeah, he's a drug dealer.

I know. He works all over the town. That's wild. Can you imagine your mom's calling in talking about, my daughter got a sugar daddy? And my daughter gives her the sugar? Well, I don't know what to tell you, bro. That's her mom.

Isn't your mom your best friend? I don't know. I don't know, man. Hello, bro. That's her mom. Isn't your mom your best friend? I don't know. I don't know, man. Hello, who's this? This is Lacey. Good morning, y'all. Good morning, Lacey. You have a sugar daddy?

Yes, I've had one. And I told him 75, but he's probably like 68 to 70. But he's old regardless. But he doesn't want nothing from me. He just wanted to take me out and show me a good time. He never asked for anything. He helped me start my LLC and everything. How old were you?

That's what I'm talking about. I'm 25 right now. That was literally probably two years ago. How'd you find him? He actually started coming to my job where I used to work at. I used to work at a little convenience store called Parker's down here.

He used to come there all the time because he does construction. He owns his own construction business. Parker's? Yes, girl. Yes. Where is that? I live in Savannah. Savannah, okay. Yeah, Savannah area, yeah. So he took you out of Parker's. He got you your own LLC. What's the LLC called? I love

my granddaddy age LLC. What is it? I make lip gloss. It's called dope gloss. Dope gloss on Instagram. Dope gloss underscore. And where he at now? Where's he at now? He is in Beaufort. He's literally like an hour away from me right now. It's so crazy because we barely even talk. He just really messes with me. Like I could call him anytime and and he'll be there, like,

to do whatever it is that I need. What's the most he ever gave you? What's the most he ever gave you? Well, I would just say he just does things for me. Like, he helps me with my car. Like, you know, he never really gives me money. He just helps me do things that I need to be doing to get me. I respect it.

I didn't know that you could be a sugar daddy if you wasn't actually sleeping with said individual. I learned something this morning. No, you don't have to. You have to. Listen, y'all, but before y'all hang up on me, I sent all three of y'all a video yesterday. Like, I want y'all to help me get my credit right. Like, how that lady was. I'm only 25.

Nope. Call your granddaddy. Call your granddaddy. Call your granddaddy. Ask him to help you get your credit right now. Don't do that. Oh, I have one more question for you. When you have a sugar daddy, can you have a boyfriend

and then also have a sugar daddy help fund things on the side? I did, but see, the situation with the boyfriend, he was in jail. But, yeah, we just don't go on about it. Goodness gracious. All right. When are you coming home? Oh, no, I don't mess with him no more. That's why. All right. When are you coming home? Oh, no. I don't mess with him no more.

Oh, okay. He out of here. Yeah. I mean, he won't be home until he your sugar daddy age. That's what you telling us right now. Oh, that or he cheated on her. In jail?

Yeah, definitely. That's what it was, DJ Envy. In jail? Well, no. He was talking to an ex. Oh, okay. Oh, have mercy. Yeah, it's a lie, y'all.

I'm about to say we're about to get another good story. All right. Well, what's the moral of the story? I have no idea what the moral of the story is because I'm totally confused on what Sugar Daddy is. Because when I think Sugar Daddy, I always think of Ann and Nicole Smith. God bless the day.

It's like being a dominatrix. Like what dominatrices, with their clients, they don't sleep with them. And it's kind of like with Sugar Daddies, you don't sleep with them. They just like to pay for things. You know, there's guys that just like to give you money and pay for things. They just like it. Yeah, we call those philanthropists. Maybe I should call them philanthropist poppies or something instead of sugar daddies.

All right, we got more coming up next. We're The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes,

entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the

people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run run high it's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all it's light-hearted pretty crazy and very fun listen to post run high on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts is your country falling apart feeling Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it.

I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong?

No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a racket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help!

We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions. but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection. It was literally

that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay grace have grace for yourself you're trying your best and you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing alicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts wake that ass up in the the morning. Check out this Breakfast Club Rewind. Yesterday, I accidentally sent $5,000 to somebody I didn't know on Cash App. You know how much money that is?

Somebody's whole first of the month is going to be amazing tomorrow. No, it's not. Yes, it is. Why would you take it back? I need that. You don't know where this person lives. I don't know where this person lives. You don't know what this struggle is.

I'm right. And this person might be an evil, bad person. But we don't know what this person's struggling with right now. You might have actually really helped someone. God sometimes lets things happen to you so he can be a blessing

through you. And you are a vessel. I'll send $50. I'll send $50. Taking you back, right back with the classic Rewind. It's the Breakfast Club.

I thought this was a podcast. Power 105.1 The Breakfast Club. Envy. Angela Yee.. The Breakfast Club. Envy. Angela Yee. And Charlamagne Tha God. Morning, everybody. It's D.E.J.

Envy. Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Michael Blackson. What's up, my da suckas? What's happening, my brother?

I'm doing good, man. Now, he was f***ing me because of my Milwaukee Bucks jersey. This nigga is a Bucks fan to death. Yeah, he is. I'm not a Bucks fan. I'm a fan of the city because Milwaukee is the first city to ever syndicate this ghetto-ass show called The Breakfast Club. Keep listening. And this jersey is Chris Middleton.

He's from Charleston, South Carolina. And you just found that out. No, I've been through this. You just found that out. No, I've been through this. This is the first time I heard him say it. That's a lie. They say this all the time.

I told them this when they busted the Brooklyn Nets ass. I told them Chris Middleton was from the 843, Portagal High School. All the ugly n****s are from South Carolina. That's an ugly n****. Chris Middleton, you got too much money. Fix your f***ing teeth, my n****. You don't have any dental plant in South Carolina?

There's only dentists within 3,000 miles of the city. Fix your f***ing mouth, n***a, you're a champion. Michael Blackson, though. How was Vegas? Vegas was good. Oh, yeah, yeah,

I went and checked out my boy Dave Chappelle. They had a big concert there. Him and, who's that, Joe Rogan, and it was Grisham. Did you come out?

No, no, I just wanted to just support support and check him out. Holler at Dave. He has some idea for some stupid movie he wants me to do with him. Why do you call it stupid? He says the movie's going to be called African Movies. You know why these African movies look so over-exaggerated? So he said, let's do this over-exaggerated movie.

He showed me a little clip of what the idea was. It's a clip about this one gunshot. This guy gets shot the bullets coming at him and he ducks it's a stupid-ass movie was he serious he was basically it's come is gonna be comedy it's called African movie me no African movies are Muslim look stupid yeah not like my work on the type African movie more like it's stupid Stupid. You gonna do it? Oh, yeah, yeah. Anything with Dave. So you just called it stupid. Anything Dave touches. Yeah, I'm gonna be that stupid-ass movie. You don't think they'll be mad at you, though?

They'll be like, oh, you're reinforcing negative stereotypes of Africans? Comedy. You can do whatever when it has to do with comedy. I don't even know what that means no more, Mike. I'm gonna be honest with you. I know what I find funny and I laugh at. And I agree with you. Things are just comedy. But people are like, y'all can't be comedians normal

I never stopped being a comedian For some time so I know people gotta get mad. See what I'm saying. You see what he just said Girl is pregnant with it girl that like was young ma young m is pregnant, you know, she's pregnant I think she's pregnant my little nice ex. Listen to me, mother****. Okay? First of all, she's not even pregnant. She's not pregnant?

No. She got somebody pregnant. She said that she was... It was an interview where she said, they asked her, does she want to have kids one day? She said yes.

And she said, clearly it means my girl would be pregnant, not me. Oh, I think she got pregnant. I did a lesbian once. It didn't work. But she started to suck my **** like she eat ****.

I was like, bitch, put my legs down, mother****. I'm a grown ***. Well, what't work, but she started to suck my like she Put my legs down Well years ago when I was married as long as I was young I married a very young age my wife was a freak Yeah, but no I don't get my ass anymore. But you have, though. I was young. I didn't know what she was doing. I didn't know what she was doing. I did not know.

I thought she was going to suck my balls. How do you know what's happening? Unless you know her tongue in my ass. Bitch, no, don't do that. Did you stop her? Yeah, I just stopped her. You said no after. And let me ask you, so you can put your feet behind your head?

No, I cannot. Oh, I thought you just said you didn't. No, no, no. I'm just saying the lesbian chick tried to put my leg behind my head. I see people are mad at you. They're always mad at him. They are. When you were home, I guess you posted a picture of your home in Africa.

Yeah. And I guess when you came out the crib, they noticed that your home was the only home like that in the area. I've been looking for a house back home because I'm building a school in Ghana. You're building a school for real? I'm building a school in the village. My mother's in Ghana. Congratulations. Thank you You're building a school for real? I'm building a school in my mother's village. Congratulations. Thank you very much. That's exciting.

And I'm building a school in my mother's village, which is about two, three hours away from the city. And the village is a little tougher because the kids out there, they have to drive or get a long way to get to school. And most of the time, the government schools, which is considered public schools, fills up pretty fast because they're free. And then everything else costs money. And the kids can't afford to go to school because they don't go to school.

They just work rounds and I figure out, you know, let me build my school for free. So I've been looking for a house for three years and this house is like

so beautiful. Like I saw it online. I didn't see it in person. You know, price was decent. A little high for Africa. I'm in love with this house but it's got to be something.

There's something about it that I'm not going to like. And I got there and I'm like, I knew it, but it's got to be something. There's something about it that I'm not going to like. And I got there and I knew it. It was where it was. It's a new developing area. So it's not completely finished yet. And when that area is finished, it's going to be worth millions of dollars. At first, I didn't

want it because I was uncomfortable with that. But I said, you know what? This is where I came from. These kids are going to want to keep an eye on my house because I'm barely going to be there. And I didn't have a problem with that. But eventually they're going to pay those people to, you know, to move out and they're going to build more houses in the area. So you gentrify the whole neighborhood. I'm gentrifying it.

I got a property in Ghana. You did? Yeah, it's on the beach. Oh, no, no. I heard about you. Man, shut up. You ain't hear nothing. You didn't say anything.

So how's the podcast going, man? Mothersucker. Our Chinese best friend. Chinese best friend. What happened with him? I don't see you with him no more. I've been on the road a lot. His lady won't let him go anywhere.

Because of you? No, no. He just, you know. If I was her, I wouldn't let him go anywhere with you either. Why? What's wrong with me? You'd be around too many women. She's probably like, no.

I mean, most of the time, he invites the women. And then he acts like he has something to do with it. So now you're snitching on her. He's not listening to this. But his girl might be. His girl is listening, man. She's from Hungary. And did Ben Simmons

really try to holler at your girl? Man, yo, dead serious. And the thing about it, I'm not even the type. That was your guy though, right? My guy. Like, you know, from day one since the day he got drafted.

I remember when I ran into him on South Street in Philly. He I who he recognized me is that we took a picture together he's like tell me a joke I said it's sixes because at that time we still laugh at that joke to today and then we became cool with the Eagles game together whether you know even with some time when they travel go out of town I'll go to games. He can hook me up, whatever. But then I remember he initially met her with me the first time. It was a Miami game.

It was during Super Bowl weekend. He was with the family that always f*** up people's lives. The Kardashians. He's with one of his daughters. Kendall Jenner, I think. Yeah, he was with Kendall or something. And then I introduced him to a rider. This is my girl, Ryder. And then I remember when we got back to the hotel, Ryder was like, I think. Yeah, he was with Kendall or something. And then I introduced him to Ryder. This is my girl, Ryder. And then

when we got back to the hotel, Ryder was like, I think he was in my DM. I'm like, uh. I said, you know what? He's seen me on a bunch of chicks. He's probably just seen one of the bitches I just be with. You know, excuse my language. So... You done said bitch ten times. Why are you positing this? Because she looked at me

funny. I've been looking at you funny this whole time. He's seen some girls on my page. He's like, hey, Mike, who's this girl? Hook at me funny. I've been looking at you funny this whole time. He's seen some girls on my page. He's like, hey, Mike, who is this girl? Hook me up. And I've done that. Ben Simmons. Yes. Okay, okay.

I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up.

I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up. I've hooked you up. So I have hooked him up. And I was like, listen, there's a whole lot of chicks on my page. He probably just think one of them that I just, you know, that don't mean nothing to me, so don't worry about it. A week or two went by, she said,

he's my DM again, and he's on my Snapchat. And he was hollering hard, you know, talking about, hey, you know you want this, whatever, something like that. So then I had, you know, I had a problem. I never even approached him about it. I just lost my respect for him because he was my girl. He was hacked. He was hacked.

That ain't the first time I'm sure you lost your girl to like a more richer, more famous celebrity. I didn't lose my girl. He was hacked. He was f***ing hacked. That ain't the first time I'm sure you lost your girl to like a more Richard, more famous celebrity. I didn't lose her. The thing about it, I have a really loyal woman. You know what I mean? I don't worry about anything. But what about when y'all were on a break, right? You guys had a little brief breakup, didn't you?

We had a couple of breakups, but she's that loyal. She's not the type that would go and want to f*** any of my friends. You guys aren't friends? How long y'all been together? No, no, I'm just saying. How long y'all been together? About two and a half years. I mean, I'm sure she is trustworthy, but how do you know for sure she's trustworthy?

You know, you can feel it, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know her when I'm with one. I've been with a lot of hoes. Now, she had a problem with your lifestyle. Did y'all squash that out at one time? I mean, we've negotiated. What does that mean?

I'm cutting out on the side bitches from three a month to maybe one. We negotiated I'm allowed to have one chick per month. That's a good compromise. So only one day per month you're allowed to do what you want to do. Well, not one day. One person. One person per month. I feel like that's riskier because then it's only one other person. You might get more feelings.

There's no feelings, man. I mean, as opposed to like multiple, if you were one woman. So can she have one a month? She have any woman she want, yes. What about God? She can't have no God. Women are not built for that.

You can't be taking two, three dicks, ladies. Explain, Mike. What do you mean? Because women are more emotional. Yeah. You know, you have things going inside of you. I don't know inside of you guys are kind of emotional i'm not emotional you just got emotional over ben simmons no no no because i thought you was my friend i'm a little disappointed in him you know what they're right there's more disappointment you know i thought it was a light

skin thing but you light skin you cool maybe maybe he didn't maybe he's seen you with other women before i'm like man mike don't care mike got a bunch of different chicks. Once he realized when he, I mean, this is like two months ago. Now you know for a fact this chick's my girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He knew it. There's no excuse. So what happens if you see him now? Probably smack the shit out of him.

You ain't going to do that to Ben. No, no, man. I mean, Ben is going through enough shit, okay? Instead of trying to shoot a shot, he should shoot free throws. He got a whole lot of other shit to worry about. You know, what team he's going to play for. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I don't give a know, what team's gonna play for. I don't give a shit.

Shanghai Sharks, okay? I don't even care anymore now. I bet I'm not. He got bigger problems now. You know, it just humbles you. Sometimes you need something to humble you. He just thought he's on top of the world, you know, because these guys get $180-something million and they think they can just do whatever and disrespect and do anything they want. And now

God would bring you down. All right, we got more with Michael Blackson when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.

We're still kicking it with Michael Blackson. Yee. Do you think Couples Retreat helped your relationship? Yeah, it helped me pay some f***ing bills in COVID when I wasn't working. And, you know, but overall overall i think it did you know it made me understand her a little bit more get to get into her feelings a little bit more because i'm more like african man like you know everything's gonna be okay just you just i'm just these women don't mean nothing to me you know you mean the whole world to me you know but then she

more like want to like i mean don't get it wrong we've had fun she's been with some of these girls as well this is just not me being a thought by myself we've had fun she's been with some of these girls as well this is just not me being a thought by myself we've had three some four some did she want to or she was doing it because you know later on she told me she you know mike i was doing this for you wow did you feel bad no they didn't stop what do you mean did he feel bad no i didn't i mean my thing is i just i realized that it just in me to live that life and i i. And I realized that after I broke up with my ex, when I was free and doing whatever the fuck I wanted to do, and I had a bunch of female friends,

sleeping with all of them all at one time, all together, whatever. I realized that was my life. And when she came in, that's what she saw. And she figured out she could come and probably eventually tame me down. And it didn't work like she planned. It feels like you have your wall up maybe. I have my what?

You like your wall is up. Like you're not allowing You gotta relax man. You're not allowing like yourself to love a person the way you could. No, no, no. I do love her.

I know that but I'm saying it could be You say he gotta relax. Like when he got his ass he gotta just relax. No, no. I'm not saying that. That was 20 years ago.

But all I'm saying is it feels like all these women might be a reason for you to not give your all to one person. No, no, no. I really feel Radha is the one. Okay. Really? When you say the one, what do you mean, Mike? Marriage? I'm going to introduce her to your mother.

She did meet my mother. She went to Africa to meet my mother. That's great. Wow. I feel she's lonely because, you know, I never had a woman that had my back like her. She's loving, don't want, never wanted anything. So do you feel like you sacrifice enough for her? Because it feels like she sacrifices a lot to be with you.

She do. That's why I did sacrifice and I cut down to one bitch a month. All right. Well, if you guys are okay, I can't judge anybody else. As long as she's okay with it. She's okay. I mean, I don't care if she wants some kind of commitment because she's looking stupid.

She feels like you can replace me any day. She wants to feel a little bit more special. So would you get married? Marriage to me is very religious, very spiritual. Because when you get married, you put God into this relationship. Without God being in there, I feel like I could just do whatever I want. Once you put God in there, the f*** is a n***a laughing at?

Man, you are crazy, man. You laughing at my logic? That's funny as hell, though. Like, God ain't with us right now. God ain't with us right now. God is always with you. I understand that, but he's not in the relationship with us right now what about I said no more side bitches at all not even one who my whole thing I don't want to be lying I was my lot to everybody you know lifestyle still fun no Mike what a bunch of other women

yes really father we everything we've done in our life we do it for women yeah Is that lifestyle still fun though, Mike? What? F***ing a bunch of other women. Yeah, it's fun. Really? Bro, everything we've done in our life, we do it for women. Yeah, but I like... We get a nice car because we don't want to put a bitch in the car. You got a nice house, you want to put a prick in the house and f*** on the house. You have wet nights close to the girls, like, damn, that s*** look nice, let me f*** them. Everything's for sex, sex, sex. You said that s*** look nice, let me f*** them. No, I'm just saying...

That's... He has the women, we'll say that. Oh, I like pouring into one woman, though. Like, I like being a faithful husband and married man. You've been faithful your whole life? No. But I've been super faithful the past few years. And you was married.

So you cheated on your wife? I got married in 2014. Okay. And you cheated when? I cheated for the first two years of our marriage. She doesn't like when he discusses this either. God was nice. But that's why I stopped.

I stopped because, number one, I want to do right by God. And I want to do right by my wife. So he's not married is his point. Right? Who? You. You're not married. I'm not married.

God is not in this. He's not a part of this. Once I put God in it, then I can't not do it again. But you can't. But you got to stop those habits now, though. You got to be ready. I'm probably going to get married when get married January 32nd, 2039. How are your kids?

Kids are good. My oldest son, we know, we talked about that issue with him. He's doing better. You know, not where I want him to be, you know, but he's, you know, he decided he wants to stay with his mother and he's, you know, he's staying out of trouble. The twins are doing great. They're on vacation with their mother somewhere right now. you paying for it um i'm sure i am i mean but one good thing

that happened i mean we me and my baby mother beat for many years been really bad ugly in and out of courts but recently i think the best medication for your baby is just y'all make up with your baby mother you got to just find a way make up with your baby mother. You got to just find a way. There's no other way. Any other way is gonna cost you a whole bunch of money. We've been fighting for the whole,

the last year. It's cost me over $50,000 already just fighting. I'm like, this money go towards these kids' college tuition. You know, so we found a way

to be two mature adults and work it out. That's dope. You know, so shout out to them. I don't know what, and this all happened in the last couple of days.

That's good. That's good. So yeah, that's a big It was it was the only thing that was keeping me away from living my best life was the fight that I have the Struggles with my what was the fight about it? Just everything is like, um custody ego COVID everybody life up come mine prior to COVID Our court order is She put them on a plane to come to me And then COVID comes

She said the kids had asthma before So she wanted the kids to get on the plane So I didn't like that idea I'm like, people are on a plane They're putting on masks, they're following rules and regulations And that should not stop custody So that was a big fight.

So I said, okay, you know what? I'm gonna go f*** up your money. I'm gonna go get a place where you guys live and try to fight for some custody. You know, and that went on for a whole year. And it was ugly. And you had COVID before too, right? I did get it. It affected your sex drive.

I didn't want, I was, sex was not on my mind until my girl decided to come and you know, she came out like a few, I told her she came out a few days didn't want, I was, sex was not on my mind. Till my girl decided to come and, you know, she came out like a few, I told her, she came out a few days later to like, you know, take care of me. And we ended up f***ing doing COVID. She put a mask on and everything. Did she?

Yeah, dead serious, actually. But y'all weren't social distancing, so. Yeah, but we still practiced and we still had a mask. Did y'all do it outside? No, no, we didn't. I opened the doors. I mean, the balcony doors. And I hit it from the back.

So it's like, you're still social distancing. I mean, it's six feet. That's not six feet. I'm a d*** six feet, so it's pretty. But how did it affect you? I mean, I survived it. Nothing, you know, I went, I mean, I had it hard. Right.

You know, not much a lose of it nothing you know I mean I had it hard you know not much a lose of taste you know I had like bad sore throat and I got to go with some salt water and then

you know it helped it so once I was able to eat again I was a little feeling better because I was I'm too skinny

anyway to not eat so I lost like six pounds and eleven ounces and then but I went through all this diarrhea

headache it was bad I was I didn't think I was going to die I knew I was going to go he said six pounds and 11 ounces. And then, but I went through all this diarrhea, headache. It was bad. I was, I thought I was, I didn't think I was going to die. I knew I was going to go. We had DL Hughley on.

He said he wanted to kill us all. Well, I know about all that, man. So that's how bad it was. Nah, did you get it? Not that I know of.

Well, you didn't get it then. You'll know when you really I think I had it like early back in January 2020. I think I had it like early I didn't know I had gonorrhea. No, no,

because some people have no symptoms and really don't know. More people have no symptoms than people that do. For real? Yeah. I had a cold. So you vaccinated? I got the card.

But are you vaccinated? I got the card. What do you mean? You can't be scared of vaccines because you go to Ghana. You don't have to go to Ghana. Well, you get it once every 10 years. The yellow fever shot. You get it once every 10 years. Okay. I have the okay okay okay I have the card I mean so yes you are

vaccinated no he got the card I have the card that means I mean vaccination is to protect you though yeah yeah I wear condoms yeah you don't want to wear condoms wait me I mean it's free it's like come with me to get me to get vaccination you get the Oh, so he's vaccinated. I got the card. All right, well, don't move. We got more with Michael Blackson when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.

It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Michael Blackson. Charlamagne? What's next for Michael Blackson, man? What we do, you know, we got the podcast, Mothersucker Podcast comes on, you know, Black Effect. Black Effect, iHe, we got the podcast, Mother Sucker Podcast, comes on, you know, Black Effect.

Black Effect, iHeartRadio Podcast Network, every Monday. Every Tuesday. Tuesday, I'm sorry. It's not good. It was Monday. It was never Monday. Okay, every Tuesday.

Tuesday. Every Tuesday. Same day as Tuesday, okay? It's doing, I guess it's doing good. It's doing really good. It is really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't. Advertisers are just scared of you, but that's all. I'm not aware about it, but it's doing good. It's doing really good. It is really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't... Advertisers are just scared of you,

but that's all. I'm not aware about it, but it's okay. Yeah, yeah, but what else next? I'm going back on tour. This fall, we're back on tour

with Martin Lawrence. You know, prior to that, I'm doing my own thing. Selling out everywhere all over again, so it's a good feeling. Jamie Foxx,

big fan of my work. He wanted to produce a show with me, for me, you know, kind of like my life. He wanted to produce a show with me, for me. You know, kind of like my life. They figured out my Instagram is like they all live through my life. And they said, Mike, your life is a show. I don't even know if you can produce you.

What do you mean? Why do you say that? Because y'all, it's so real and it's so raw. Like, as soon as y'all get y'all and be like, oh, do this and do that, I don't know if it'll be this long. I mean, I follow rules. I know what not to do. I'd rather them just turn the cameras on and let you live and edit it from that.

Hopefully that's probably what they would do. Just cut out all the crazy part. That's what the people want, though, the crazy part. I know. But, I mean, it depends what network it goes to. If we got a Netflix, then you can wild out. But if it's going to be on BET, then you got to calm down a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, that's pretty much they go wild out man for you cuz gonna be on BT then you know you got to come down but I mean that's pretty much that you desire getting money I am I'm not even going front you know you

haven't met Rada no seriously get the tub out of coming yeah yeah the white girl she's not white she She's Cambodian. Oh, come on, gentlemen. You know she's not white. Come on, Ryder. You making her famous? She already is. They've been on TV together. Oh, yeah, come on. She hates.

Hey, Ryder. Come on, baby. Hey, Ryder. I haven't seen you since Miami. Yeah, remember when you met her in Miami? Yes, I did at the Super Bowl. It was beautiful. Well, Super Bowl week. Yeah.

He said he's going to marry you. He said he wanted to get married, Ryder. You want to get married? Seriously, please. What? Why did I say that? Why did I say that on the show? I heard that.

I thought I heard that. Wait, you told me that the other day. You going back on it now? Oh, he did tell you he want to get married. He did. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, he about to propose.

Oh, my god. Oh, my god. He about to get married. He about to get married. He about to get married. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Oh

With your chance Mike I love you Which me 90% of the side bitches? What you mean? She said, is it bye side bitches? I'm proud of you, K. 90% of the side bitches. Bye bye. Mike, I'm proud of you, K. Congratulations, my brother. Congratulations. That's what I'm talking about.

Grow the fuck up. I love to see it. I'm happy for you, man. Congratulations, Ryder. Congratulations, Ryder. I can't believe this. Wow. This is real, too.

She is shaking. She was not expecting that at all. Well can't believe this. Wow. This is real, too. She is shaking. She was not expecting that at all. Well, thank God she said yes. Did you say yes? Congratulations, Mike. Congrats. That's big, bro. I love it.

That's big. You playing this out. You playing this out. He planned it. Mike playing this out. We about to end the interview. He like, bring her inside. Let me introduce you. This has never ever. We have never had anybody propose on the back of a chair.

When did you decide to do this, Mike? Here, right in the seat. We got another seat here. Slide it down. When did you decide that I'm going to propose to Ryda? Ryda. Let me see what did it. I just told you, Ryda died. Just some loyalty. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I never had a woman is that disloyal to me Wow

My crime behind him Meet the Blacksons coming soon Meet the Blacksons. Coming soon. Coming soon to a network near you. Meet the Blacksons. Okay, ring. And she got her nails done because that would have sucked if your nails weren't done. Congratulations, man. That's amazing. Well, Michael Blackson, Miss Blackson, we appreciate you guys.

Mrs. Blackson. Mrs. Radha Blackson. Radha Blackson. Are you going to change your last name? Yes. Okay. Radha Blackson. Radha Chang Blackson. Rad going to change your last name? Yes. Okay. Radha Blackson. Radha Chang Blackson.

Radha Chang Blackson. Yes. There's one question, right? When he had COVID, he said that y'all really had sex during COVID. When he had COVID, you put on a mask. I came to take care of him. Wow. I clicked on him.

Envy really wanted to know if he got a six-foot. That's what you really wanted to know. What? No, it's more like eight foot. That's what I'm like, man. I need that type of ego boost in my life, too. Congratulations. Oh, my gosh.

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I'm going to fatten all that shit around your eyes. They want this man to throw them blows, man. They wait for Charlamagne to tap these gloves. Let's go. They have to make a judgment of who was going to be on the Donkey of the Day. They chose you. This is a breakfast club, bitches. Who's donkey of the day today?

Well, donkey of the day, of course, the two individuals from Wichita Falls, Texas. Okay, a 20-year-old man named William Henderson and a 34-year-old woman named Rochelle Convery. Now, remember when you was talking about the Brooklyn Nets owner who bought a condo for Joe Sy. Yes, for $157 million in Brooklyn and Kanye Kanye spent a million a day to rent out Mercedes-Benz Stadium to finish his album. And we got into a quick discussion about how people got it. That's just not true. The gap between the haves and have-nots is wider than it's ever been.

And these two individuals, William and Rochelle, definitely fall into the have-not category. I really don't think y'all appreciate your blessings enough. People out here starving. It's hard to see that sometimes when you personally live a certain lifestyle. But people are out here hurting, not knowing where their next meal is coming from. And when your ribs is touching like that, everybody's a lick. People wondering why violent crime is up all across the country. It's because people need money.

People need cash. And they're going gonna get that dough by any means necessary hell the great black philosopher sean carter once said broke don't want no cash they just want to kill you that is true too because people are hurt people in pain people got traumas traumas they haven't dealt with and they end up projecting that hurt and that trauma onto us okay that's where a lot of the violence stems from in the case of william and roelle, that's what it feels like to me. See, William and Rochelle have been arrested and charged with aggravated robbery. Who did they rob? What did they take? Well, let's go to KFDX NBC3 for the report, please.

Two people remained behind bars tonight after police say they robbed a woman in a wheelchair of her groceries. 20-year-old William Henderson and 34-year-old Rochelle Conbray were arrested this morning and charged with aggravated robbery. When officers spoke to the victim, she said she had been pepper sprayed and robbed. During a confrontation with the victim, Conbray took out pepper spray from her purse.

Henderson then took that from Conbray and sprayed the victim in the face. The pair then took mayonnaise, potato chips, and a portable fan from the victim and left the scene. The victim told police the names of the suspects, and officers found them about 15 minutes later in the 1,000 block of Holiday Street with the victim's property and the pepper spray. Now, according to a law firm in Texas called Lust of Law, aggravated robbery without any criminal history can get you a sentence in Texas ranging from a minimum minimum of five years to ninety nine years. Our life in prison. Think about that.

William and Rochelle took a penitentiary chance of epic proportions for some potato chips, a portable fan and some mayonnaise. We don't even know what kind of mayonnaise. Was it Hellman's? Duke's? Heinz? I mean, it's not like knowing what kind of mayonnaise justifies anything they did, but if they went to jail for some store-brand mayonnaise, it just makes this hee-haw hit harder. Now look, I scribe to not judge people for what they do when they are in survival mode, but can you imagine getting five years in prison, possibly 99 years in prison, because you stole potato chips, mayonnaise, and a portable fan from a woman in a wheelchair.

What kind of potato chips were they? Kettle sea salt and vinegar? Miss Vicky sea salt and vinegar? Cool Ranch Doritos? Chili Cheese Fritos? I mean, those are my favorite chips. Not that it matters or justifies what they did based on the brand of potato chips. Inquiring minds like myself would just like to know.

Because I'm always intrigued by how the human brain works and what moves people to make these kind of choices. Now, the portable fan is self-explanatory. I was looking at the temperature this week in Wichita Falls. They got highs of 103 with over 80 percent humidity. Totally understand why you would take the portable fan. No need to explain that one. But I do want to know when people do things like this are they aware of the consequences of their actions because if you have to rob someone for a portable fan some potato chips and some mayonnaise then you don't have money for

a paid attorney you just don't they're gonna give you a public defender and the public defender is going to do their job and they probably go do a good job but you still going to prison and I'm telling you right now last thing you want to hear when you in a prison shower is I bet you can't eat just one. OK, a bunch of people in prison trying to get you to reenact the Doritos finger licking commercial. Ain't nobody got time for all that. The moral of the story is don't make a permanent decision based on temporary emotions. OK, that woman, y'all pepper sprayed that woman in that wheelchair. Y'all pepper sprayed and robbed is traumatized. She's going to have to do a lot of work to move that trauma through her body and william and rochelle y'all going to prison i don't care if it's the

minimum of five years or the maximum of 99 years or somewhere in between you're going to prison for a permanent period of time based off temporary feelings and circumstances now i don't have anything much to say here except now it's time to play a game of Guess What Race It Is! All right. Wichita Falls, Texas. William is 20. Rochelle is 34. They had pepper sprayed a woman in a wheelchair

and robbed her for potato chips, a portable fan, and mayonnaise. Angela Yee, Guess What Race It Is! Let's start with William because it is two people. Caucasian. You think they're both Caucasian? Yes. You say that without a shadow of a doubt. No doubt.

Why? Just from the whole description. Are there a lot of black people in Wichita? I don't know. I'm not sure about that. Okay. Okay. And the mayonnaise.

All right. The mayonnaise is really a dead giveaway. DJ Envy. White. Wichita. You take both of them, William and Rochelle. Yes.

What gave it away? Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise? Too much goddamn mayonnaise. Well, I would have to say that y'all are 50% correct with this one. It's a trick question.

Rochelle is absolutely caucasian okay okay william is indian don't you even think about it red i don't don't you even don't you don't you even think about it okay but but william is indian yes Yes. Huh. So please give William, what's his name? Please give William Henderson and Rochelle Conbury the biggest hee-haw. I play every genre of music, but. See, I don't think we've ever had an Indian, and guess what race it is. And I don't even want Red to even assume. Okay, I got you.

Okay. That was smart, smart. Don't even assume. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Yes, indeed. We got more coming up next with The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining us this morning. Yes, indeed. We have Erica Ford and Andre Norman. Welcome. Good morning.

Good morning. How are y'all? Doing wonderful, man. Definitely doing wonderful. Pleasure to be here. Absolutely. Well, they're here because Andre has an initiative called the Academy of Hope. Tell us what the Academy of Hope is, brother. The Academy of Hope is a program that's designed to help prison violence.

In South Carolina a few years ago, seven brothers lost their lives. And in response, the director of South Carolina Department of Corrections, Brian Sterling, brought us in because he wanted to decrease the violence. So we got all the leaders of all the different organizations in South Carolina and said we have to stop this. We put them in one unit, the heads of all the different organizations, and they agreed to a peace treaty. And they've been building and learning how to do interventions and help each other first get along and then carry it out to the population. And it was probably like six months ago, one of the brothers saved the

lieutenant's life from being murdered. How did you start those conversations with those brothers locked up? I mean, we went in, the entire prison system was locked down for five months after the riot. And we came in, they opened the doors. I said, you got to, the entire prison system was locked down for five months after the riot, and we came in, they opened the doors. I said, you gotta let them out. They wanted me to talk, like, one door at a time. I'm like, that's stupid. I said, man, let these brothers out. They've been locked down for five months. When they came out, we talked what was good for them. What's,

what about your family? What about your future? You know what I'm saying? Do you want to get out of here? Because I got one of my homies that was with me. He did 29 years, and we flipped his case and got him out. He's like, listen, man, let's do law work. Let's not worry about contraband. I'm saying let's do paralegal stuff versus hustling on the yard. And we talked about their freedoms, about their family.

And that's what the Academy of Hope is about. Now, Andre, can we talk about your background and why this is something that's important to you in particular? It's important to me because I spent 14 years locked in cell. I had a 100-year sentence. I had a total of 100 years. And I was inside doing what I do. Six cases, shipped around the country, doing what I thought I was supposed to be doing, representing, getting a name.

And I woke up one day and I realized I was a king of nowhere. I had the bag. I had the respect. I was a king of nowhere. And I said, this ain't it. I said, well, I want to do something different. And the first thing I did is looked at the people who went home, white, black, Spanish, Asian.

Nobody went home and stayed home. I said, freedom don't work. I need successful. So I said, I'm going to go home and be successful and go to Harvard University. Everybody thought I was crazy. They said, you can't go to Harvard. They said, you can't read. I'm saying, all you do is you want to hold for trying to just all the time.

But I didn't care what nobody said. I taught myself to read, taught myself to law, went back to court, went to programs. And for the next eight years, I worked on myself and I had mentors in my life. And I got out of jail and I got a Harvard fellowship. Now I've worked at the White House. I've been at London Business School for 20 years and I've worked around the world with tons of people. And I could not go back. I've been going back since 90 minutes after I got out of prison.

Prison, pro-law office, youth center, doing the work. That's why me and Erica connected, because we do the work. And that's what's so important, too, because you talk about your background also and what even led you to ending up in prison and just kind of how you were raised and what you saw and what you thought was normal growing up. For me, I went to prison not because people didn't love me, not because the neighborhood was bad, not even because schools were bad.

I went to jail and prison because my father taught me how to quit. When he walked out on us, he taught me quitting was okay. And so everything in my life, music, sports, leadership, I quit, I quit, I quit. And it left me all positives gone, left me only negatives. So I went to jail for being a quitter. Well, how you don't decide to quit after getting sentenced to 100 years that's why that's why i thought you know the fact that your organization called the academy of hope like you had to have some type of hope even back then because 100 years lord have mercy when you get off the bus

the big homies pull you up and you get into the flow i wanted to go to school wanted to go to learn how to be a forklift driver and they're like yo man is that ain't the life up in here they taught me the life in prison, and I rode with that. And it wasn't even about doing 100 years. It was about staying alive today. And that day-to-day grind, just six years later, I had been shipped to nine different states. I got kicked out of Massachusetts, kicked out of this one,

kicked out of the feds. I was in Terre Haute in the 80s when there was a gladiator school. And people just get murdered every day. And you just get into that groove. It's like dudes will hustle. You get into that groove. It's like dudes will hustle. You get into that groove. You got enough money. Why are you still hustling?

You got into that groove and it's like. How old were you when you got sentenced to the 100? 18. Okay, great. Not great, but did you realize what 100 years was? Because I sometimes think these kids don't know what them numbers is when they get sentenced, man. No. You don't even think about it because the math doesn't make sense.

You just like, okay. You get off the bus. For me, it was a reunion of all my friends from the dummy class. It was a reunion of all my friends from juvenile probation. A reunion of all my friends who got kicked out of school. It was just a big reunion. Everybody's there, not focusing on reality.

They're still living in the fantasy world of Oz. This is cool. Oz. Like, this is cool. And for six years, it was cool. I had fun. I ain't going to lie. Really? Yeah, fun. But you did like two years in solitary, right?

I did two and a half years in solitary. What's fun about that? What's fun about all that? It's like, what's fun about being on the block at 3 o'clock in the morning and selling crack? That's real. Dudes do it. What's fun about getting up every single day and coming to work? Dudes do it.

I mean, you get into the lifestyle and you think you're making moves, but the only thing is you ain't moving up the ladder. This ain't a corporate job. They put you in the tailspin so you wake up and you realize, damn, I'm 16 years in. My homie walked up, he was 25 years in. They had him on Florence ADX locked down. And it's like you get into a mindset.

What do you say to kids that grow up and they always say, I always say, I have no other way to do it. I had to do this. I was stuck. This is my environment. This is my area. This is all I can do. I believed you up until right now.

It was all you can do until right now. See, now you have Life Camp. Now you have Academy of Hope. Now you have other programs that are going to show you how to make that transition. So, yeah, I believed you. Up until right now, all you knew was trauma. Now you have Academy Hope. Now you have other programs that are going to show you how to make that transition. So, yeah, I believe you. Up until right now, all you knew was trauma. All you knew was negativity. All you knew was the hustle.

Now, do you really want to change? Yeah, think about how some people never leave their neighborhood. And they don't even know, like, what they could be capable of or see other things. Because when you grow up, you're so used to being in this, like, you know, a few blocks of where you grew up. You're so used to the people that are around you. And you don't even see, like, what your life could potentially be. And some people's parents are stuck in that cycle. Yeah.

So their kids get stuck in the cycle. And their parents, you know, block their children's ability to fly high. You know, and it's like you have to, it's like you're fighting for the mindset of a whole community. And that's why we address violence as a public health crisis, because you have to help people heal and transform. You have to change mindset because what we're doing is not rocket science. We care about people, the people who own these institutions and create the environment for us not to. Because every community, when you cross a certain line, it's fundamentally different.

The stores are different. The food is different. The school learning is different. The lights are different. The lights are different. The street, there's no sidewalk. You know, everything is different. And so how do you,

you have to expose people to the world outside their block, right? And let them know that there's hope and opportunity on the outside. You know, i was very when i first met andre and saw that he was a brother because we hire credible messengers most of the folks that we hire are formerly incarcerated men and women and andre is like a he breaks the mold also of that you just gotta be you you. Like, you got to be that OG, like, always ignorant. You know? Like, no, you don't. And so there's Andre and another brother from Chicago, Dr. Chico.

They're receiving a lot of folks. They're receiving their doctorate. Going further to now, we have influenced the White House to put $5 billion, we talked about it last time we were here, in the infrastructure bill. And that would help us provide more programming and service and really build an industry around violence prevention you know just like when the hip-hop industry the music industry first started you know we're looking to do the same

thing all right we have more with andre norman and erica for when we come back it's the breakfast club good morning morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with erica Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Erica Ford and Andre Norman. Charlamagne? Why are organizations like Academy of Hope so important, Eric? It's important because you got to reach these folks and they need access to people like Andre to give them the ability to understand that they could do it too. Because, you know, me coming up to them is like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you, you know, you ain't never did what we did. It's like they say all the time.

Right. But he can say like, I not only did it, I excelled beyond it. And he still makes a whole lot of money doing what he does, you know, so you don't have to be a herb or a bum or whatever it is that people think it is. You know, you could be very successful doing this work. And that's what people need to see. You know, that's why I talk a lot of times to artists and celebrities about making this work cool. Because if we're not on The Breakfast Club, we don't exist.

You know, if we're not hanging out with somebody who got a rep, you know. Born day. Today's my born day. No, I'm kidding. I'm on The Breakfast Club. You were like, hey, how's everybody doing? out with somebody who got a rep you know one day we see a lot of people talking about prison reform a lot of celebrities and you've been doing the actual work for such a long time so you have seen a lot of progress would you say because we have a lot left to do but you do have hope for that yes yes i do have hope but a lot of people talk loud they're not really doing a lot you know and they get the access to the resources because they talk loud

and they have the camera and they have the microphone but a lot of people who are doing real quality work like if we put millions of dollars in the stuff that we were doing the same stuff that he's talking about here in Rikers too. And Rikers is different because they changed the administration and so they stopped the program. Right? So now there's no program and there's a whole lot of

fighting between correction officers and inmates in Rikers now. They need to put the programs back that work. Like this is a lot of society is backwards. Stuff that works works they don't invest it stuff that don't work they invest it you know ask how did the the prison administration contact you guys and how was that because it feels like a lot of times you would think that the prison administration doesn't want to hear what we think works and they just want to

try their own thing whether it's more police or more officers in there so how did that conversation happen most people go what they know that's just the standard whether it's policing whether it's da whatever they go with you know if it's the homies you get more homies i was at a conference speaking and when i finished speaking a lady named mina staley walked up to me she was a director of programs for south carolina she said that was a wonderful speech but can you actually do that i said what do you mean she said we just had seven brothers die and 30 people wounded, and we've been locked down for five months. We don't have an answer. Can you be our answer?

And at first, I was like, I'm busy. I'm like, lady, I'm a motivational speaker. I make 10 racks of speech. I'm flying around the world. Catch me in December. It was August. And she said, where's your commitment to the work? Canceled my whole schedule.

Seven days later, I was in South Carolina, called the homies, and three of us went in there. And we spoke at ten prisons over six days to 8,000 people. Were you nervous that they weren't going to receive you guys well? If I can't get along in no place, I get along in the penitentiary.

I got no worry about going in the penitentiary because I grew up there. I speak that language. Once I start talking, they're like, oh, he's from here. You got thousands of people who talk to work, but I got literally my brother right now, Dominic Williams, 29 years

wall to wall is in South Carolina prison right now at Lee Correctional doing the work. You know what I'm saying? We got brothers inside. Tracy Fent, South Carolina freedom fighter,rectional doing the work. You know what I'm saying? We got brothers inside. Tracy Fent, South Carolina Freedom Fighter, inside today doing the work. I got Sean Henley out of South Side of Chicago, inside

today doing the work. If I wasn't here, I'd be at the prison. This was supposed to be yesterday. When you bumped it, I said, yo, y'all, they're like, yo, Dre, go rep us. You know what I'm saying? I'm here not to rep Andre Norman. I'm here to rep the brothers from South Carolina who are inside, I'm saying, trying to be heard. Like, they're doing great stuff.

How do we put this program in every prison? How do you put this program in every prison? It's a conversation either with the governor, the president, I'm saying, or the director of corrections. And we just go in. I mean, I've had corrections officers. I met with the brother who runs New York, I'm saying, two weeks ago. It's just about networking. It's who you know.

It's not what you do. I would think that people would listen to you, too, because 100 years, you did 14. Like, did you learn something? Did you learn the legal system? Did you get out on appeal? No, no. My case is in the books. No, no.

You go Commonwealth versus Honor Norman, I'm in the books. You know what I'm saying? And I had 100 years worth of time while I was supposed to do 28. I flipped and gave back like 10 or 12 of them. I made parole. It wasn't all consecutive, but it was 100 years worth of time. When I came home, when I was inside, I started studying. That's the greatest place to study.

There's no greater place to study than the penitentiary because your focus is on. I come from a world of get it right or die. When I was hustling, inside it was get it right or die. When I started studying, I had the same attitude. And I learned the things I needed to learn. When I came home, I was waiting for this expert to pop up and to say, yo, you don't know nothing about this work, and this embarrassed me. But I would go places, and nobody knew about the penitentiary because they'd never been.

They read a book. Somebody told them about it. Some intern did a story. They'd never been. They read a book. Somebody told them about it. Some intern did a story. They'd never been. We go inside. We don't sit outside. I got a lot of people who hold signs. We go behind the walls, and we sit with people in their cells, in their pain,

and we help them heal. Because if you don't help them heal, they'll never grow. What rights do incarcerated individuals have when it comes to corrections officers being abusive toward them? Do you feel helpless about that or what can somebody do if they're being mistreated? If you're being mistreated,

you can file a grievance but a grievance goes back to the same cycle. I mean, the whole corrections system, it's like saying what rights of a slave have? You own the plantation and the story it's slavery 2021 so i'm not going to try to dress it up because i worked here prison is slavery that's right you're saying that's it 13th amendment unless you commit a crime you

the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club we're still kicking it with Erica Ford and Andre Norman, Charlamagne what does that healing look like Erica, the healing Dre was talking about? The healing looks like, one of the things that we used to do in the prison is

fight with them around the diet of the folks, right we used to do yoga with them inside and we were in the worst unit here in New York City and so they were in cages, right, and we would do yoga with them inside and we were in the worst unit here in New York City and so they were in cages right and we would do yoga in the in the cage with them um we would do meditation with them on a day-to-day basis we would have them do different kind of readings and understanding about this is not you this doesn't define you where you are.

And healing, you know, like you've got to let go of what brought you here. What is the pain and the trauma that you were dealing with that caused you to do that crime or caused you to do? Because the first thing is keeping folks out of prison, right? And then if they go into the prison, then allow us to work with them to transform them so that they come back to society a whole new person and in terms of just what people can do in terms of support is you got to contact the people

outside you got to have advocates that can raise the attention of what's going on inside the prison to to bring attention to it so that they can get relief because if nobody knows then it's going to go um on and on and on. And a lot of people are being violated in prisons. A lot of people are serving time for crimes that everyone knows they didn't commit. You know, it's a business. And in order for the businesses to stay running, you need people in there. And so that's the flip side of the work, you know.

Really, I would love to close all the prisons and allow us to really help our people. He'll give us big estates and compounds that have land and opportunity to expose them to something different. Because a lot of young kids you see picking up guns now, that's their pain. They're committing, to me, some of them are committing suicide, you know, because they don't want to live because they think that they have no hope you know because everything in front of them is quitting is is failure is death is you know abuse um it's trauma and generational trauma brings generational pain and that's what you see a lot of times in these kids and that's what

happens when they you know because when he talks about his father quit that's a pain of a man leaving you that you thought was supposed to be with you for your entire life so he could say it and i see him when he's talking to his father i see the pain still there today you know he might try to laugh out of it but you know it's still there yes he did like i ain't seen you in five years i don't want to go in on dad. I'm saying shout out to dad in Connecticut. But I brought my son up here. He's done yoga with my son.

And the thing, I was inside the other day. My son wrote me a letter when he was flying home. He lives in London. And he wrote me a letter and said that he's proud of me and that he loves me. And he read my book for the first time. And he's like, yo, dad, I didn't know you went through that. I just thought we was like rich our whole life, and this is how life was. Wow.

I'm like, because, and he wrote me that letter. I read the letter to the brothers on the side, and I cried as I read it. I'm like, dude, it took me 14 years to get this breakthrough. You got to hold your line, man. I said, I couldn't go against the family. I had to put up with some stuff that I knew I was right on, that I knew I could speak to. But he's 12.

He's 80. He can't understand. So I had to take it on the chin and just wait for my victory. And my victory came last Monday. And I told him, I said, it took me 14 years to get to that point when my son said, Dad, Dad, I love you, and I'm proud of you, and I get it. Was there a reason why you didn't tell him beforehand? You know, you go through stuff, and you don't want to ever confuse an 8-year-old

by telling him, okay, you were told this, but it's really that. You were told that because it's just going to do more harm than good. So I said, you know something? I got to take that. I'm the man. I got to just take it on the chin in the interest of his mental health and well-being and just be the bad guy for a little while or let that story float for a little while because the day's going to gonna come i don't have to be right today when he's seven i have to be

right today when he's 12 if i want him to be long-term healthy then i gotta take this i gotta carry this because i'm his dad and um he made it through and i got my victory erica when you talk about the main things to try to keep people out of prison, period, right? I want you to also look back in retrospect. Are there things that you feel like could have helped you so that you didn't go to prison? Because I think there's a lot of people who are struggling with their own kids right now that are like, I don't know what to do.

I can see the path that my child is headed on, and I don't know how to help. First thing for parents, ask for help. I mean, don't be overwhelmed. Don't be embarrassed. That's one of the biggest things I run into because I work with white parents, Spanish parents, black parents, and they're scared.

They embarrass, ask for help. Like, I can't control or govern my own child. And for people who want to be helpful, every gang member, every criminal, every whoever drug dealer, drug addict, is sitting right now in a K1. He's seven years old with dirty socks and he looks

his hair's messed up. If you go give him a sandwich and a hug and some clean socks, he'll do whatever you ask him to do. Kids right now in K1 are just looking for love and look for something to eat and they're not getting it. It's not until they're 18 years old with a gun in their hand and we come in. But you need to go down to the K1 and K2s and get them before they turn. Because they're not getting it. It's not until they're 18 years old and they got it in their hand, then we come in. But you need to go down to the K-1 and K-2s and get them before they turn.

Because they're sitting there right now, and everybody's ignoring them. What do you think, Gary? When he said the thing about being right, right? Does parents – I never gave birth to any kids. I got 1,000 of them, though, right? Parents have to be their child's parent. Too many parents want to be their child's friend, want to be the homie,

want to hang out with their kids, smoke weed with their kids, you know, and you have to understand the impression that you're putting upon that child. You're putting too much burden and responsibility on a child to understand and navigate adulthood, you know, without guidance and supervision and rules and regulations. And then when they get into a situation, then they stopped. And you're like, why are you?

No, this came into being. It didn't just happen today. And so and oppression brings that. I don't want to, you you know make it like our community is is guided towards failure it's guided towards a mindset of of mediocrity of ignorance you know um i heard y'all talking about that brother when i was walking in here and um there was a whole conversation for the last couple of weeks about WAC 100 and 6-9, right? And many people got into that conversation.

And I said to one of those people who got into the conversation, I said, if a police walked up to you and said those same words or called you out of your name, are you going to respond to them? And they were like, no. I said, so why are you responding to a police out of uniform? I said, a lot of things are set up in our community, in our culture to take us off our square, get distracted from what we're supposed to do and get victimized, right? One way or another, people could get into a fight, get shot and killed. I'm from Jamaica, Queens. I know what happened when Rick Ross and 50 Cent had a beef. I know what happened when Rick Ross and 50 Cent had a

beef. I know what happened when Ja Rule and 50 Cent had a beef. I know what happened in our community. A lot of times when different people have beefs, it trickles down to neighborhoods, right? And people don't see that. They don't see that, right? And so I know it's a long thing, but the avenue is we got to take care of our kids. We got to take care and we got to ask for help. We got to support help. I don't do this because I'm trying to be famous. I'm not doing it for money.

If I was, people tell me all the time I'm stupid, right? Because I could be making money. I could be what is ever famous, you know, whatever that is, right? But that's not my intention or my purpose here in this world. It is to give the tools to the people and connect people so that you have an opportunity that you thought and break the system down because it is killing us mentally and emotionally more than anything else. You know, and our kids can't deal with the mental destruction. Right. They can't deal with it. So when you talk about trauma and get help, they don't even know how to get help. And so they're getting help smoking a blunt, drinking whatever it is they drink,

popping pills, and then everybody got a gun now. It's a system that's set up for us to fail, and there's got to be so many other ways for us to do it. It's going to take Biden and Congress to vote for the infrastructure bill, vote for the reconstruction bill, and really support the $5 billion so that we can give people the tools that they need

to do this work and change our lives. Well, give them the website so they can look it up, look up more information. The website is andrenorman.com. Okay. Erica Ford, Andre Norman. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

The Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Hey, what up, y'all? It's DJ Envy here. Listen, mediocre phones are out. The new Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3 5G is in. It folds clothes and fits in your palm and even bends to stand up on its own

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Thank you. Thank you for having us. You lost some weight there, brother, huh? Well, I'm trying. That ain't the problem. The problem is keeping it off. That's the problem. Yeah, that's a fact.

Trust me. I know. How'd you lose so much weight? They said you lost like 30 pounds. Yeah, I'm just trying to watch my diet, trying to do right, trying to do a little something. And you're both on this journey together, which I think is helpful. We are. Hey, we've been tracking a long time, 33 years, so we're trying to keep up with each other.

Now, listen, this new album, Overcomer, is very inspiring. And I do love the song that you have with Wyclef and Kirk Franklin, because, you know, it's got a little Caribbean vibe. Hello, God. Hello, God, yes. It was really fun putting it together we had the course of covid and everything we had to do it separately tell kovat to go to hell me and kirk did ours together because we're both in the same city right and uh we did it at his studio and then wacliff sent his stuff and uh it was just amazing how it happened though it's my fun song it's just

saying hello god just wake up in the morning. Just give thanks. Just thank God for another day. That's a good drive to work in the morning. Yes. It's a good wake up song. Good wake up. Great wake up song. Man and let me ask you this. So okay. I was talking about Kanye's new album Donda. And I do like the facts

that his songs have these I like the songs that are more like religious that are on his album, like more have that kind of feel to it. You know what I mean? Like they feel spiritual. Have you listened to it? I haven't had a chance to hear the new one.

I haven't had a chance, but I was reading the reviews and I was like, ooh, ooh, oh. Yeah, some of the reviews came from up here. Oh, really? Yeah. But I haven't had a chance to hear any of it yet but you know if i feel like if we spread the good news and you know you're trying to inspire and uplift people and give people hope

to me that's what gospel music is about it's about the good news bringing good news and just encouraging people right now all of us need some type of encouragement that's why we did the album overcomer just to let people know that we can overcome whatever obstacles that we're going through, because all of us are dealing with something and we need help through something, help with something. And just, just, I'm just sending people as an encourager that God is my source. He's my help. And that, that's how I get through things is, is what God. Let me ask you a question and not talk about Kanye, but what do you feel like when you see pastors or musicians or artists where they speak the good word and they speak it, but then when you see their life, they don't live it? Because the gift comes without repentance.

That's what the scripture says. So, I mean, sometimes some people are very good at what they do, what they do. And the thing about it is they may be able to help somebody out of what they're dealing with. But can't help themselves. And they the thing about it is they may be able to help somebody out of what they're dealing with. They can't help themselves and can't help themselves. And I think what what they need, like what we all need is grace and mercy, more grace. Because I think sometimes we put people on a pedestal and say, you mess up, you know, that's it. And I think we have to start showing more grace to each other. That's what we have to do. More love, more grace. I've decided in the last two years what COVID has taught me is to love more and judge less. Okay. So if I'm doing that, I'm going to say, okay, bro, I understand you made a mistake.

You're not perfect. Let's pray. Let's restore. And let's move on. But if they don't feel like they made a mistake. Then they have another problem. Then that's out of our hands. Because all we have to do is just, again, just like our kids,

we try to be the best example that you can for your kids, your grandkids, or just people watching you guys. Just like with this. It's like you're not going to do everything right. Everybody's not going to like everything you say. They're not going to like everything that we do. But all we can do is just be the best example that we can be. Do you call people out on their bullish, though i would yes he does no no but if it's not good he'll say it's not i

think you need to sometimes because i think people need to know the truth because a lot of times the people around you are there for different reasons you know yeah now what i'm learning to do is temper how i say it now because see me i haven't learned that yet. I say I'm learning. I'm learning. Yes, I'm learning. Sometimes it's how we say it. What you're saying is probably really good and sounds good

but how we say it don't come out the right way. Probably what you're saying is right but you're probably just putting a little uh on it to make it feel like it's not help. I think you can't let people just get by with just doing foolishness.

Because we have this saying when we're in the studio, if it sucks and it's terrible, tell me in here where we're only laughing. Don't get outside the door where millions of people are hearing it and then you say, I told you, I started to say something. You should have said something. And I got got you know and that's one thing i love about my wife sometimes it's too too honest because your wife and your husband's the one that could stab you

and you know it really hurts brutal honesty brutally like we got 33 years of yes you're on our coattail. You got it. But I got friends, and sometimes they so honest, you get so mad, but then you realize. It's true. I have a friend, Tina, she works at Def Jam, right? Now, she calls me every morning, and she tells me some, always some, she'll leave with negative and then end with positive, right?

But it's always some bullish, right? Yeah. But you know she loves you because she's staying from a good place, you know? And that's hard to receive sometimes. And you have to be able to trust the person there has to be people that you genuinely trust somebody that has your best interest somebody that has your heart and you know you're not just telling me this just to tell you're telling me to help me and guide me on the right path but you also have to know that people have their own things that they're dealing with that we may have no idea about from the outside looking in. So things can appear a way, but

I think we do have to be more empathetic to people, especially during this time. Even if we're talking about her new project, people don't know that this project was a journey. It was a full journey. People don't understand the behind the scenes stuff that was going on

with her. With the pain, I was dealing with my knees, working, doing the plays, doing all the television stuff that was going on with her. Like with the pain, I was like dealing with, with my knees, like working, doing the plays, doing all the television stuff and, and studio. And then I wound up doing double knee replacement because it got that bad. And that feels like,

how painful was that? Cause that feels like it, it was very painful at first. I was like, okay, I'm just going to do one. Then I was like, no,

I'm gonna go ahead and do both. So I won't have to take off work another six months. So, you know, so let's, let's kill it. And Then I was like, no, I'm going to go ahead and do both so I won't have to take off work another six months. Let's kill it. And my doctor was like, I believe you're at a good age where you can handle dealing with and working through both. But it was a lot of pain. I cried. We did some social media stuff. I was like, I don't know why I did this.

In between that, trying to walk, trying to figure out how to walk. I had to get up. This tests you in sickness and in health in your marriage. He said, you're acting like a newborn because I would in your marriage. Because he was like, I got a new, he said, you acting like a newborn. Because I would wake up in the night, was like, come on, I want to walk. I want to just get up and just move around. Bottom line, thank God for good help being around you, especially with that type of surgery.

You got to have somebody there to help you with that. And then in the middle of that, you know, you got a pandemic. Right. And then mama's dealing with. Menopause. Yes. And listen, I love that you are so open about that because you're right we don't talk about that enough we don't like i've never

really heard anybody discover people like mention it or make a joke about it you heard about the change it's like you're going through the change i was like i heard that growing up all my life like what is the change you know people think when you have your monthly it's it's it's terrible this is terrible because it really sends you on a roller coaster and it's you have your monthly it's it's it's terrible this is terrible because it really sends you on a roller coaster and it's like out of nowhere it's like this morning coming i was sweating i was like i'm put on makeup and i was just sweating i was like i'm really not hot but you're sweating the emotional part of it is crazy because i will be happy then all of a sudden oh oh it would be like start crying i'm gonna tell you how i noticed it it was like because

she talks to me really sweet like babe you know this is great and i love you and then she came back from the kitchen is like i'm gonna kill you tomorrow i mean because you can't you know it changes and it's like it takes some it felt like. She got possessed. I mean, because you can't, you know, it changes. And it's like it takes some, it's like something taking over your body that you don't know that's happening. So I'm just saying for you and your wife, you know, whenever that happens, y'all be patient with each other. All right, we have more with Tamela and David, man. When we come back, so don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.

Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Tamla and David Mann. So what's your relationship? I mean, you know, people automatically assume you do gospel music, that the relationship has to be perfect.

No. So how do you deal with- You said that too fast. No. How do you deal with problems in a relationship? Like, what is the best way that you guys deal with problems? Who runs? Who doesn't want to talk? Who likes to talk? Who likes to- I'm not- No, how do you deal with problems in a relationship? Like what, what is the best way that you guys deal with problems? Who runs, who, who doesn't want to talk, who likes to talk, who likes to.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm learning to become the talker, but I, but I have not always been the talker. I'm doing a lot better now because I know that's what he needs from me is for me to talk to him and let's talk through this thing. I'm like person of one or two words, and then I'm done with it. But I've learned to add more, just figure out something else to say. Try to drag this out. Well, see, for me, I do understand our relationship is not perfect.

What we are, we're a work in progress. We do an evaluation every year. We do an evaluation. Good job, right? You should go and just go revisit your marriage vow you know like i say i'm not trying to push you back to the album but that's why this album for both of us it is so personal it was the overcomer title it really means something to us because that's a nice powerful song it was oh thank you thank i mean but but it is because

we all been we're doing a lot we've been working there and it's like I want my things to change around me. But sometimes the change has to begin with you. It's okay to have a therapist and Jesus. It is okay because a lot of times we shun that stuff. And what I am praying is that the Lord gives the doctor wisdom enough to help me. So you guys have done therapy? I have. I've gone.

I've gone because I've gone because I'm a lot. I'm a lot. I haven't yet, but I really do plan on going and talking to somebody because I feel like it's just good to have another outlet. What about couples therapy? Yeah, well, we haven't had it, no.

But we've worked some people through it. Yes, but we sit and we talk about everything. And I mean, we're the kind of people that it happens. It could be two or three o'clock in the morning. We land in the bed and we just start having like a session, just laying there talking about it. And then there's times that we have actually prayed at that time of morning to just really because we want our relationship to work. Divorce is not an option. We both put that out there that we're going to work through whatever we were dealing with.

And what was the toughest song to do on the album what was the toughest one to do the toughest song for me would been overcome was because it was a whole different vibe for me wow and it was because it was like to me it's more hip-hop rockish yeah had a nice rock you know you know but it's like after like sitting and listening to it it was like i, I'm not I'm going to conquer this. So that that and hello, God, to me, because they were told different. Yeah, those two signs straight away from the vibe that I'm using, you know, the ballots that I'm used to, that people used to hearing from me. And that's what I'm trying to get people to understand is to hear me in another light. Give me an opportunity. Give me a chance to just even for you to hear what I'm saying.

You know, I know it's a God is my faith is it? Yes, it's all about my faith. But the songs that we're singing are stuff that can really help you get through something. You think I would think he did it for me? No, because he did it for me as a ballad. The reason that he did it for me, for me on the album is I had a lot of people come to me and well, actually, my radio guy came back to me after I

did an interview with someone and they was like, well, why is everything coming to her? And it really pricked me because, you know, I grew up really poor. And it's like I know what it means not to have. And, you know, to go through without things. And I was like, the stuff that's happened for me, you know, was the favor.

I believe it was favor of God that happened for me. And God did it. Like, even when you first went to go work with Tyler Perry, you didn't have money like that. No, no, we were scratching. I mean, when we first met Tyler, David, actually, I didn't meet him. David flew and met him with Freaking Flyer Miles. With my Freaking Flyer Miles. I wanted it that bad to go, let's figure this out. And I used my Freaking Flyer Miles. With my Freaking Flyer Miles. Right. I wanted it that bad to go, let's figure this out.

And I used my Freaking Flyer Miles. So, you know, the song, He Did It For Me, is just a testimony like, hey. Of our gifts and talents. You guys didn't see this. That I went through. Yeah, what we went through in the beginning. And now, you know, you can see it now.

It didn't come easy. Don't discount it. Right. You know, now that we're here, we had to go through some struggles and trials. You're right. Everything's not perfect. Was there ever a time in your marriage, what would you say was the toughest period for you guys to get through?

My sixth year of marriage, I'll never forget it. We was having some, you know, a rough patch. And I kept, you know, your first years of marriage, you always say, especially for women, we always say, I'm leaving. I'm taking my kids and I'm going. Now, mind you, that's one of my biggest fears is to be left alone. I'm taking my kids and I'm going to my mama. And then, you know, some things, you know, kept happening. And, you know, it's just, you know, just disagreements.

Because the thing about us, honestly, y'all, not to make a perfect picture here, but we've had more happy days than sad days. We don't have any arguments. Our arguments came at that time of the month, honestly. That's when we spat it, you know, or argued. So we had an argument, and I was, you know, I was mad. And I was like, I'm going, and I'm going to take the kids. Now she said, I'm going to take my kids.

Did I go half? So this time... Don't you need that though? My kids or my bedroom? Because y'all did help get the kids here. But you let us be Debbie. She did a majority of the work. You Debbie thieves, your kids.

Y'all got to do the fun part to bring the kids here and then she did all the work. Well, afterwards she got the baby here can I honestly don't need a woman Let me take care of it was good data. I can throw the baby up change the path before it hit the ground Hey You know they got the little pouch you can put on. I'm not putting that pouch on now. Come on now. I'm not walking around

with the pouch on. Y'all should come up with your own and market that too. I ain't doing that. We'll call it the daddy nipple. The daddy nipple.

The daddy nipple. No, but I told him that I was going to leave and he said, you say that one more time, I'm going to pack your stuff up and take you to your mama.

Yeah. I looked at him and I thought about where my mama lived and where I lived. And she lived in a one-bedroom house at the time. And I was like, where are me and my kids going to sleep? You hear she still said me and my kids. But I'm just saying that's what he asked, but that was really the roughest thing. And after he told me that, y'all, I ain't said that no more. So if we let that break us up early in our marriage,

we wouldn't be here living the dream. Y'all feel like y'all figured out your purpose? Yes. I do. And I think it really is. I keep saying it, but we are sent here to be. I know that I'm an encourager. Bottom line.

I mean, even before all of this. And a friend of mine texted me the other day guys and she was saying you remember we used to go we had this restaurant called punchos we really wasn't making a whole lot of money but we were always trying to help somebody even before all of this and she said you remember i used to take me and my kids out and we was having problems and i was having problems in my marriage and y'all was there for us. And I just kind of got teary-eyed. And I was like, man, I was like, I was like bae, because I call him bae. I was like, bae, we was trying to help people when we didn't have nothing.

And I believe that's why God has shown us favor. And he did it for us, you know. And so we'll still be able to help other people. I think for me, it's to bring joy to people. I make people laugh. And once I realize joy to people. I make people laugh. And once I realize I'm anointed to make people laugh, I'm anointed to bring joy to people. That's my purpose is to uplift people. And that's what we're here to do.

That's what this record is about. But comedy and music, it just works in a different place to me because it really does bring a lot of joy to people. David and Tamela Mann, it's the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note?

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