The Breakfast Club - Deb Antney Speaks: Nicki Minaj, Gucci Mane & Setting the Record Straight

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

In Part 2 of Loren LoRosa's exclusive conversation with legendary music executive Deb Antney, the industry powerhouse gets candid about the headlines that have followed her for years. From her relationship with Nicki Minaj and the rumors surrounding their professional split to her work with Gucci Mane, French Montana, and other artists, Deb shares her side of the story like never before. She also addresses the controversy surrounding politics, explains why she refuses to let public opinion define her, and opens up about feeling overlooked despite helping launch some of hip-hop's biggest careers. Plus, Deb discusses her film Deb's Boss, why she decided to finally tell her own story, and the legacy she hopes to leave behind.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that I'm sure is going to shake the room up a bit because we're talking to Deb Antony, mother, manager, businesswoman. We know her for Deb's house, but also responsible for the careers of Nikki Minaj, French Montana, Gucci-Maine, and more. Let's get back into the conversation as she explains her relationship with all three of them.

I know that one of the people that a lot of people point to when they talk about how you go up the bat for your artist is your relationship with Nikki Minaj. And I reached out to you during the time where there were reports that you guys that split and like management. First, I didn't even know that you guys were still working together. I thought you had kind of like took a step back

and we're just focusing on Deb's house and what you had happening. But there were reports that you guys had split because of her political views. Oh, that was you. Yeah, I reached out to you then because before I tried to be as like, here's what being said and here,

as close to the sources I can get, people will say, or you will say back to me. Because again, when I saw those reports, my first thought was I didn't know Deb was still actively managing anyway. I thought she was more focused on the television and the Debs House and different things. So I was confused. So I reached out and said, hey, here's what I was being reported. Here's what I will have to report because it's the only thing I had. Is this true? Is there any context to this about what's happening that I could get? Wait a minute. You wasn't quote on behalf of, I hate saying people named, but the Jasmine brand.

No, no, no. They kept calling, too, being messy. They were one of the people that posted the story, though. I saw their story. Yeah, okay, because they kept calling me, too, being messy. Like, one is, I'm not getting into the political thing because I can't tell anybody their political views

who, too and who not to, like. What is democracy? Like, I do know what democracy is. You understand? Period. All right? I got to keep asking people with some dig on mega because they keep saying this mega thing or whatever it is and I don't even know

and myself became I'm going to just go here with it while somebody would say that because of political views when they all call me that also because again or growing up in hip-hop I said if I had to just note what I said if I had to vote for somebody I would have voted for him right

I didn't both film. So right away, I became a Trump or a MAGA. I became that. I ain't arguing with that. Because the one thing I was always taught, they'll argue people about two things. That's religion and politics. Okay?

So I stay away from that. But that was in 2021, right, when you said that? I forgot when that was, yeah. Only not to cut you up, but it's because when you say things like that, knowing what the world is seeing happening with Donald Trump, it's hard for people not to associate you with MAGA, because that's kind of what happened

with Nikki Minaj as well, too. Yeah, but you want to know something. You want to know something. We all do a lot of things. You understand? If you sat here, it spends your life trying to appease people, I pray for you. I am not going to spend my life trying to please people.

If that's what I chose to do. But let me explain some to you. I've been invited to the White House a bunch of times, not by him, but other things that was going on. I never got to go because it always was something that was in the way. But I don't know who out there if was ever invited would not show up. It ain't got nothing to do with him. It's just the idea of saying, you know how I felt meeting, being honored by Jesse Jackson multiple times?

You know how I felt meeting Maya Angelou? You know how I felt sitting down with Dexter King, Martin Luther King's son, talking to me and pouring things into me. when I was down you know I felt the many people that I have so much respect for that I said that, that I met that some people don't even care for today.

I'm not going to go against I don't particularly care for Perthi but I would not go against that man now. That's a black man still even though I don't agree with what he did with a woman. I'm not going to go against him. I don't believe it knocking somebody down when they're already.

down. Lots of people called they want to talk about that. Knowing about stuff he did. Now you're going to tell me what he did. You ain't tell me this stuff before. Why tell me now? R. Kelly. You've been knowing this stuff about him forever. Black people just need to get up off of it. Make your mind

up and choose your side on which side you want to be on. Period. That's how I feel. You were talking to Big Facts. I think you were on Big Fats for that interview. Which one? When you were Well, they were talking to you about the whole Donald Trump thing

because it was around that time of 2021. And you had mentioned that what you like about Donald Trump is the fact that you can't control him. Do you still feel that way now? I like anybody that can't be controlled and have their own mind. Good, bad, or indifferent. You understand?

I don't make it my business to follow anything that the man is doing. There's a lot of stuff going on. What are we going to do about, sweetheart? We ain't doing nothing about our own culture. We ain't stopped doing the stuff that we're doing. We ain't stop enslaving ourselves. So how's somebody going to keep talking about a white person and what they're doing? If we keep going against each other and keep doing the things we do to each other,

you ain't trying to lift me, you ain't trying to educate me, you ain't trying to help me. You just want to knock me down and bam you out. Look how today somebody loved you and the bar that hate you. Nikki Minaj was the biggest person in the world that everybody loved. One time she'd go up there, she'd go to do this to that. Ain't even go for no card to try to get a card. I don't know if she did or not, really. be honest.

I got a statement from the White House. They said that the gold car. But the gold card wasn't real. I knew that it was real anyway. But she became so quick that people want to throw her under a bus. They do this to everybody. They can love you so much

and hate you tomorrow. Look how everybody fought to get into a party. Now everybody's enemy and people want to turn their back. But everybody wants to be in what's happening. Everybody want to be in your corner when it's popping for you. But if one thing happened,

if tomorrow one person, put something up about you that they can say to people regardless of what you come back and say but it spreads out all over there long as that person. Do you understand what I'm saying? I get you, but with the Nikki Minaj thing, I think again, it's like

people are really struggling and going through it because of some decisions that Donald Trump and his administration are making and then she's like, Nick, you know, with our artists, we look at you at them like, you're ours. Like, we want you to understand. No, you look at them like they're inhuman, that people are

in human that you don't have problems. You look at people like you don't have anything. And if you going through a bunch of stuff and there's nobody helping you or whatever it is, and if you, and I'm not talking about that situation, because I, you know, I'm not totally, I'm not in that.

Okay? But who's going to help me? Let's let's go here, Lerbosso. Damn Mickey Minaj, damn Gucci Man. Damn all the rest of them. Okay. I bought you, Nicki Minaise. I bought you, um, Gucci Man. I bought you.

I put New York back on. I did. I came in, found people from New York because my city was falling. And I bought them to Georgia and popped the place back off and they flipped on me. Who helped me?

Who? Whoever came to my side and said, wow, he did this, she did that. These artists don't, apparently they can have amnesia. They all can have, everybody could have amnesia. Who did anything?

whoever spoke up in my behalf. Who? And I gave tons of people opportunities. I opened the door when every door was closed on you. I believed in you. Who believed in me? No one.

They just stopped all over me. Spread rumors on me. I don't stole from everybody but they big as life. But I didn't did all the dirt to everybody. I know after a while, it's my fault. It's my fault because, guess what? A lie becomes a truth when you do nothing to defend it.

So that's all everybody has to go on. Because guess what? Debe said nothing. But I never felt like I had to get out here to explain anything to anybody. Who are you that I got to explain myself every day to you? Who are you that I have to constantly go on the Internet? I'm not with that thing. I hate that stuff.

I hate that gossiping. I hate it. I can't. You don't understand. What a do to me that I watch it destroy so many people? My child ain't here today. It's going blind. I can't help you.

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or wherever you get your podcasts Okay, go ahead I'm sorry No I was gonna let you go I was just gonna say you know right now not for the sake of explaining anything to anybody

but because you are taking an opportunity to speak and it's rare when we do get these like sit downs with you who is it that you want most to speak up in the midst of all of this

that you think if they were to stand by your side and say things to clear things up according to what you're telling me about the Gucci men, you know, about Nikki Minaj and your relationship or wherever that is, who would you want to stand up and what, what do they say? You know what, I'm gonna shut them right here long. I don't usually do this, but I don't know that that's necessarily where we want to go with this right now, right?

We're not trying to pull anybody else in. I think anything relative to the artists that she's represented and what she feels about. Sharon, this is why I didn't want to do this because I knew that this would kick up so much stuff in me, period, that's going on

that I have never had my just-do. I have never spoken on any of this stuff. This right here, with Brett, was piercing to me. I know that something might look like it is that is not, okay? I promise I'd take another. from her. I've not taken nothing from

none of these artists. I've given them all opportunities. Not Brad. Brad had our own opportunity and she was who she was. But Brad didn't do reality TV either. She didn't really like it. It was just something that I wanted her to get into because we were so cool. Let's do that. I could do this with you.

I'm always trying to pitch something with women. I'm always trying to do something with a woman. Okay. I made a bad decision again. I did it again and it is what it is but I'm tired I find something else to say about me

I brought so much good stuff into this industry I've done so much in this music and film industry period a lot that I have done and I keep getting stomped on ain't nobody standing up for me ain't nobody speaking up for me And now a time that I want to speak is coached.

No, you can only say this. There's nothing. You can only say that. Yes, Devin's boss is out there. I want everybody to know. I'm telling my life story. I'm telling where I come from because nobody knows a lot of stuff. They don't know what I'm really doing in my life.

I don't discuss that stuff. Most of these people keep cameras around them. They made up. That's why they all bugged out now just about a lot of them. Because now you can't keep up with nothing. stuff is not going on when it still ain't happening for you. Let's talk about Deb, Deb is boss, right? I know that that is your show that you have coming out.

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Oh, it's out. So how many episodes do we have out of Deb's boss? Or is it a... No, it's not even the episode. That was an... Here's and we go with another thing. Death is... I mean, Deb's house...

Dev's boss was Beth's boss. and that was during the same time that this stuff was going on, okay? That they wanted this. They wanted my story. And at the time, this was WeTV. It was supposed to have been a series. They needed a series.

Okay? They wanted that. And that's what we all talked about at first, doing. But then all that stuff happened at We TV again, and the people weren't there anymore, and people were moving, when people lost jobs and it was a whole bunch of little stuff that came in that went off the table. It was smashed.

My show was smashed. When Brett Disma came in, we went in for the movie. We turned that series into a movie. So now I was doing the movie and death talks. It's why I'm so confused because both shows was being done at the same time simultaneously, two at one time. two at one time. When everybody was being dropped, I had continuous stuff going on.

So I know in Deb's boss, right, you have the music angle of it and you talk a lot about like people kicking you and getting your flowers and stuff like that. Do you think that this is the project or this is the time where people will finally start opening their ears to listening to things

outside of what is the normal narrative that we hear when people talk about Deb Annie because it's not all bad on time. I don't always hear all bad about you. No, I don't, it's just these parts that it gets me. I don't like to be called the thief. I don't like that. And especially the people that I love.

You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't like that. Like those are things that is personal for me. I get it. I do. I just, I mean, I don't know. I hear you and then talking to you now, like this is our first time actually having a real conversation.

I watched, I don't know if it was you or your brother on Matt Pfea. And it was like a real in-depth interview. It might have been both. It was bad. Yeah. And he was on there too. Yeah. So I watched both interviews.

And I remember watching it and just being like, you know, as I'm learning and grown within this industry, like these are the stories. These are the things. This is like the resilience that you want to hear about because it is tough. But I can't imagine how it was for you because there was a lot of things that I have, like social media and different platforms that you did not have. And I know that Deb is balls goes into that as well. It really talks about you just surviving queens and building yourself up. And I hear you say right now that you're hurt by a lot of the narrative

that is happening right now. And I'm sure it's because you made it through so much to get to this point and you still having to fight. And that's the part that just, it just gets to me. You know, And I think, like, I know that one of the biggest things that I go through is, you know, this industry, unfortunately, if a man is not sitting there with you as a woman, it don't really work that well for you. Okay? And as simple as that. And even in artists with females, when the man goes, you're going. and that's how it's been for women you know like

they weren't able to hold onto their own and that's because men was able to stomp down on you you know that that's just things that they're supposed to do you know it's like I'm happy Deb is boss

we're going up hopefully so we're sinking an Emmy nominations for Deb is boss little mama played me I went through a lot of stuff with that. Why did you choose her?

Why is she not? I do, too. And she has my attitude. I love her. She has New York. Yeah, she's short. She might be short, but she still, it's television. You understand what I'm saying?

There's some illusions, but she did an excellent job. Lisa, right. My mother's so happy because my mama was upset. Because my mama didn't want this done. My mama didn't want her life on the, to make her look like she was a bad mother. She loved Lisa Ray. You understand what I said?

Everybody that was on that show was phenomenal. Everybody did a remarkable job, remarkable. The production company, remarkable. Everybody, it was such enjoyment for these people when I was really scared. Because I didn't want this to be done. I really know what to be done, but I said, you know what? I'm going to tell my story before everybody else

keep telling them because they keep telling me stories. These stories they write. You're not going to rewrite my history. I'm not going to let people do that no more. That's not happening anymore. I want to pick a choose because back in the days when I was doing this, we had our people that we could go to to put our stuff out. Not a lot of us, but real journalists.

You're real. You're not made for ten. that's why I'm sitting here with you. There's an oath that you took still in doing this and realism and doing your homework and checking stuff. You understand? So which I'm very happy that you did because I really never knew when people said that.

Now I know that in 2013, he did file a lawsuit on me. I didn't know it. People talked about stuff, but I didn't know it. You understand what I said? Nothing ever came to me. So you just enlightened me right now. Now I just learned that.

There ain't no d'agone settlements. I'm going to tell you that, Malich. It ain't no settlements. It's nothing. People owe me, okay? They owe me a lot. I gave some big opportunity, sweetheart, and it's very easy for people to get bragged on today

and doing the work that I did yesterday because they would have never been able to walk that walk that I walked. Okay? They ain't have that in them. I was a real trooper. I really was Deborah. Really was her. They know about that Deborah in the Bible.

I really was her. I had to fight this, tooth and nail for each and every one of them. Whether they give me any type of, I'm looking to talk about flowers. I don't need no flowers. You just don't diminish my name. If you don't want to talk about me, you don't diminish me. Don't do that. Don't make up a lie with me.

You ain't got to never mention me. I never use anybody. just like even Deb's house. I never used breath. I never said her name in nothing. I never did any of that. So I did something of something that I wanted to do and it went good.

I did a reality show. I did real reality. Something that they said couldn't happen. That wouldn't happen. In real time, what you've seen is what you got. And I know it touched a lot of people because there's tons of people. that stopped me, that loved it, that I didn't have that drama going on.

I wasn't going to have that drama going on. I dealt with a lot of women that were hurt. I wanted women to see themselves on that screen. I needed you to see you. I didn't need to see you because you had a fat behind and a short, you know, a little waistline and all those little things. I didn't need to see you because you had the story of a stripper or any of this kind of stuff. And I'm not downplaying people.

I'm just saying, I needed you to see you. There's a lot of people that would take advantage of the opportunity. But unfortunately, I still haven't felt them because they come in and they already think they're superstars. They've been tainted. These shows have tainted so many kids out here that think that this is so easy to just walk in and this is who I am. You can't even handle a stage.

You don't know how to work a stage. You don't know how to do an interview. You don't know all these things you don't know how to do. that's what that show was about not PT not running not going through the other little things that we talked about and then rapping and

I wanted them to learn who you was and put away some of your pain and don't hide yourself that's one of the things that people do every time somebody get on TV they're all made up I never did that when I was in my kitchens when I was in anything don't make me up

I'm gonna come in with slippers I'm going to be very bad because you ain't always going to see me like that. You're going to see a real person. I'm a real person. I do real things. I go through real stuff. I get sick. I dug bill collectors.

I do everything that everybody else do. At the end of the day, what I want them to know is that we're both going to lay on that piece of beddle and go through this the same exact way. I'm going to be your neighbor next door in the hospital. It's going to be the same. I'm not, I'm not inhuman. Don't make me who you want me to be. It's not fair. Even you saying a celebrity is not fair.

I'm Deborah Edney. And that's what I want people to know. I'm not inhuman. Not perfect, but I'm not inhuman. And I'm definitely not a thief. Well, I think that's a good butt in the end on. I was going to ask you what you wanted the message to be for people to take away from the conversation we had today. But I think you just summed it up right there.

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where that time Blondie's Debbie Harry escaped Ted Bundy. Listen to Disgraceland on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My first guest is Terence Hilton, Shakira, Luke and Yerrin. Have surprises? Many surprises. Welcome to the Sweet 305 podcast where the group check comes to life. What on? You're the only person I know that loves a yellow starburst.

It's lemonade. This is Sweet 305. Here, oversharing is encouraged. Listen to Suite 305 with Llepon's on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed human.