The Breakfast Club - Deontay Wilder Talks Robert Helenius Match, Positivity, Greedy Promoters, His Future In Boxing +More

Episode Date: October 13, 2022

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We got a special guest in the building. One of the best heavyweights to ever do it, man. Deontay Wilder, who's fighting this Saturday, October 15th, at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn. Welcome, brother. Thank you so much for having me. How you feeling, my brother? I feel great.

How about yourself? I'm blessed, black, and highly favored. You know, man, you and Tyson Fury went to war, you know, last year. And I'm sure a lot of people saw the fight, man. But when I saw it, I felt like it was one of the best heavyweight fights I ever witnessed. And I left that fight feeling like, man, those two guys are warriors. Like, I didn't feel like there was a win or loss as far as, like, just y'all two as men. What did you learn about yourself after that fight?

Well, for me, it's just, you know, I handled a lot of things that I had control of and the things I didn't have control of. You know, I wanted to test myself. I wanted to see how relentless I was, how limitless I was. You know what I mean? So I learned a lot, but I knew a lot.

You know, I just wanted to test myself with a lot of things. You know what I'm saying? I know it's a lot of black and gray areas of what I'm saying, but I bow by the saying what's understood don't have to be explained. So who all understand me don't have to be explained about it. But it was a great fight. It was a great fight, one in the history books. Absolutely.

Everywhere I go around the world, people talk about it. And I love to see the fight all right so um i you know i can't say no more great things about it i saw you said a fourth one might is not ruled out for you if it's not a real doubt it's not like you would potentially do that ruled out oh most definitely most i mean the heavyweight division is very small so uh the numbers are why the numbers are small we can fight each other four five six seven eight nine ten times it's not like uh all the other divisions where it's super packed you know um so i think that's a great thing about the heavyweight division where we can get in there and

fight multiples of time only if the you know the fighters are willing to do so you know and uh and um so long as the heavyweight division. I know when I left for a little bit, you know, a lot of people were drawing me back in and different things like that with their excitement and stuff. And so now I'm back and just bringing more excitement back to it. We got a lot of things going on. Different champions has been developed.

And it's going gonna be great. You know I'm looking forward to this fight come Saturday as well to add to the excitement. You know the Barclay Center here in Brooklyn has been some of my most dramatic, some of my most memorable and electrifying knockouts. Yeah I remember that first Ortiz fight I saw at the Barclay. Yeah so I'm looking to add to that excitement here again. So when I came here, I just felt so great. You know what I mean? I'm like, I ain't been here in a long time.

I haven't fought him here in a long time. It's just, you know, you just get that positive. I'm all about energy. You feel the, you know what I'm saying, the vibrations of it. And when I came here and set foot on ground, I was like, ah, man, I feel like I'm at home. You know what I mean? So it's going to be good. I'm looking forward to it.

I was going to ask, you talk about the heavyweight division. You know, as a kid, that was the biggest thing that we watched, right? We always watched the heavyweight, whether it was Tyson or Holyfield, whoever it may be. Why do you think the heavyweight division is not as big as it was growing up? I mean, we got a lot of things going on here in America. You know, back in those times, I didn't think they have so many different sports, so many different things going on. Especially even before that time

where you just had during the Tyson, even during the Ali times, boxing was one of the main things because all the other different sports that wasn't occurring. Right now, we compete against so many different things. And I think

the publicity side of I think they can do more for as getting fighters out there just like the UFC you know I was up in Vegas training at the apex and what Dana White does up there he took the two million facility into and sold it for four billion dollars and he did it with none fighting record fighters. You know what I mean? His thing is records is for DJs. You know, so he took like 13 and 20 guys, you know,

one in 19 being the winning and losses, you know, and turned it into a mega facility. And every time those guys come in the facility, they got cameras in their face. They have media training and different little things like that. They'll just keep their faces in the fan, out in the public and different things like that. And I think that's what boxing needs.

I always say this is not a sport, it's a business, overall business. And within the business, you've got the Green Eye Monster, and most of the time people are looking to fulfill their pockets instead of the concerns of the fighters and what it takes to get them out there. And I think that's one of the things that's lacking in this business, just promotion-wise, getting out there even more so than ever but everybody everybody don't have a personality like you got a personality fury got a personality cuz every we got great fighters but they just don't have personality that's true too that's

definitely true you know a lot of people don't like to talk you know they just I don't know what they scared to say the wrong thing or they don't know what to say or if it's a fear factor. You know what I mean? Some of them get nervous. I mean, this is, like I said, this is a business. And every time we step in the ring, we're risking our lives for others' entertainment.

And, you know, that is true. So maybe, I don't know. I think what you said, too, with records, you know, because Floyd Mayweather didn't mess it up, but it was part of the reason, like, everybody wants to be undefeated, right? So now if you lose a fight, it's almost like they make it seem like your career is over. You don't know the sport then. That's what they do. They make it feel like if you lose a fight, now your ranking goes down.

They don't know the sport then. But that's what people are into. Every grade has lost. Ali lost. Tyson lost. And people love a comeback story, too. But now everything is into zero losses. I want to see how far you can go undefeated.

That is so true. Y'all, you're hitting the nail right on the head. Definitely with the winning and losing, everybody have that ideal of, just like you said, if you lose, then you go down, you go down.

But it's really the opposite. The more you lose, the more opportunities you actually have. You know, I've seen guys lose so many times, and every time you turn around, they're in a title fight. You know, and it's crazy. But all these guys say, I got to keep winning, got to keep winning. And then when they do lose you know the fans and certain things they I mean I don't know

it's crazy how does it affect you mentally when you have a loss and then people are talking crazy online and there's memes because it's a different day and age now for sure boxing with things going viral people posting things so does that affect you at all do Do you ever get irritated about it? I think everybody's different. For me, like, I don't dwell in what people say about me or really care too much. I think it's one of those things,

either you have it or you don't. You know, certain people care about what certain people say, but for me, I understand that this is a big world, and you can't please everybody. And anybody that try to please everybody, they're going to go crazy. You know what I mean? And you just can't do it. So with me, it's like it goes in one ear out the other for me because I'm so blessed.

I'm so highly favored. I got a beautiful family. I got a beautiful support system behind me. And I know my mission at hand. I know my tasks. I know what I need to do in life. And worrying about others' opinions, I block it away from me.

I shield my heart all the time. I shield my space. You know, that's why I'm always positive. Always positive speaking, positive believing. And with all those combined together I equal positive results and that's with my whole team you know I mean they say what you want to be and what you want to become you surround yourself by that and all my team of

loving people will speak positivity amongst each other amongst the world and and that's what we come out with, you know, because a lot of people can be very cruel, and it's a lot of people that are miserable out here. You know what I mean? They say misery needs company. When you were on The Breakfast Club before, you went viral for some comments that you made

about killing your opponent in the ring. What did you think about that? Do you think people misunderstood what you said? Because I saw you also were talking about being in the Barclays and being nervous that your opponent might not get back up. Mostafa, I think a lot of people take what I say out of terms a lot of times, especially with the media because with the media, they'd rather be first than being correct.

And for me, if you understand the business you understand that once we step in the ring that's the item that comes with it our life is on the line i don't think people understand that you know being a fan or watching it from the outside looking in you really don't understand how much of a jeopardy that we take when we step in that that's that square ring you You know what I mean? The head is not meant to be hit in the first place. Doctors always tell me that. You know the head is not meant to be hit.

When they tell me about my power and my body frame and how it doesn't equal out that if I hit something, I'm either going to do three things, hurt the person I'm hitting, hurt myself, or it's going to be both. And along with that, they're like, you know, the brain is not meant to be shooken. Especially when you're trying to learn about the body and you're trying to make sure you have the right

nutrition in your body and do the right thing to prepare for war because that's what we're preparing for is war. And I understand automatically that's what it comes to. So I'm only speaking what can happen. You know what I mean?

Really, we're not trying to kill each other, but at the same time, I ain't trying to be nice in there. I'm not trying to go all around, you know what I mean? Because no matter you go first round or 12th round, it's the same money. So, you know, like I always say, I don't get paid for overtime. So with that being said, my demeanor that I must have on the outside and then coming in on the inside it just it's just a whole different it's a change-up and If I hit a person right or whatever it can happen

So it's just obvious of things if you don't have that killer be killed mentality You might be the one who get killed be the one you can't hold back You can't you just can't and it's just this is not a nice business it's not it's it's filled with crooks and and i don't look i ain't here to uh downplay the business but i only speak the obvious of what it is and this is what we deal with this is what we sign up with now true enough i i love doing what i love to do you know i In this business, I've seen where it can make you come from poor to rich and wealthy. It can make you wealthy and go poor.

And broke again, yeah. You feel me? And it's just an up and down roller coaster with dealing with the business. But overall, if you know how to maintain yourself and handle it

and have the right people around you, I mean, it can make dreams come true. Have you had some bad financial things happen while you were in this business? Not as far as people stealing from me and different things. Yeah, for sure. For sure. These last two, three years, I've been cleaning the house.

Wow. You know what I mean? Wow. Yeah, I've been cleaning the house. Because you've made a lot of money. You got to see it with the pandemic, huh? Most definitely. And then, you know.

You got a great financial team, though. Oh, man. I don't have to do this anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the beautiful thing about, you know, boxing, that I don't have to ever step in the ring again in my life. Right, right. When I was coming back, that was, you know,

what made me feel so great and made my heart warm was my financial people called me, and they was like, what are you doing? You know what I mean? They were like, this is the reason why we built you to the point where we built you so you wouldn't have to come back no more. What you doing? I like, you know, I know.

You're talking about Humble, right? Yeah, that's my guy. That's mine too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, and I told him, I had to explain to him, once I was presented a statue, I like, it just changed the whole levels of me and my mindset of thinking and how I motivate and inspire people all over the world.

You know, I'm always for my people. That's what I've always been for. That's what I use my platform for when others fear to do so. You know what I mean? the heart of Dixie like it was where clans used to meet where blacks was prohibited to come to unless a white person drove them to work at their house and where they sold slaves up the street, man. And to see so many people all over the world come down

and join hand in hand with me and my family to celebrate my revealing of a statue and see men and women break down in front of their children and point at me and say, this is what a role model looks like. This is a true king. This is what you want to be like, not me.

You know what I'm saying? And when I see stuff like that, it's just like it allows me to know how important one is in the world to others. You know what I mean? You can go all the time and meet so many different people, go to so many different countries and meet so many different people, and you can see the impact but not really understand, you know, the real importance of it until you see certain things, you know,

especially as men. We're always taught to show, you know, don't show no love. That's right. Always got to have tough love or don't cry or whatever. That shows weakness or whatever. But if you really understand, crying is nothing but a cleansing that's right you know I mean it's nothing wrong with crying it's a cleansing now sometimes you cry too hard it can bring a domino effect with a lot of other things just like when you're

taking certain medicine medicine it may treat a certain thing but it caused certain things to happen to you as well just like's just like, have you ever cried so much that your head start hurting? You know what I mean? You feel a certain type of way, these emotions and stuff like that. Sometimes that can occur, but it's a cleansing. You know, I had one guy in the gym not too long ago,

he going through something. I got the discernment of the spirit. I can feel things by aura, energy, and emotion. I have visions sometimes as well. A lot of people don't know but uh with this guy i had you know this is the mirror of sparring i mean after we got finished sparring he was going through something i can feel him all over just talking to him and and man we end up crying in the gym together you know i'm saying and they don't understand that's

just a part of me you know i mean i connect with people you know and that's just all types of people and the things that he was going through i was there to to comfort him to motivate him to to just give him a hug sometimes we just need somebody to say i love you brother that's real look him in the eyes and i love you and really sincerely give hugs and and let somebody know that you really care for them you know i mean because in the world that we're living in, especially at times and days like these, sometimes I sit back and I'm like, this world is going crazy. You know what I mean? Sometimes you're scared to raise children in this world or whatever.

I think about moms all the time. I think about my wife all the time. Certain places and stuff. Hey, make sure you got stuff on you make sure you know you you aware your surroundings because sometimes when you living in a certain world especially when you got life it seemed like what it's made for you you live in your own bubble that's right I mean that's right when every day somebody looking at you always tell people you all all all of us somebody looks up to us we motivate we

inspire but on the other side we always got evil looking and praying on us too and i'd rather be the predator than the prey yeah you know you said something earlier because you was talking about when when humble called you and i ain't gonna lie i thought the same thing i'm like why is deontay coming back like you don't got nothing to prove you don't have nothing to prove to nobody you done did it you wealthy like what's what what's the reason? What you just explained. Yeah, most definitely. I'm a people's person.

I love people, and I love seeing people succeed and making and do great in their life. Even if they're doing better than I, I'm happy because I tell people I soak in my happiness and my peace. And when you're happy in that peace, no matter what your finances is no matter what your your surrounding is is you're happy you know i mean you know i've been both i'd have been broke and i've been you know i've been to the point where i have money and all that don't mean nothing if you ain't happening at peace that's why they that's why the saying is it's lonely at the top that's real yeah because they ain't at peace you can have a billion dollars and be miserable and not be happy. And you can be the only one at the top because you don't know who to trust. You always got to watch your back. Even your best friend, a lot of them buying friends and stuff.

And then you get to the point where you just jumping off the cliff. You commit suicide because that's why it's lonely. It ain't lonely because everybody ain't got it and they ain't made it there yet. So you just waiting on everybody to come up that now it's lonely because you don't know who to trust you don't know who what to do because you trying to keep your money and everybody else trying to take it from you so it get to the point where jumping off the cliff you know i wonder right are you are you that much of a perfectionist that because i remember after the ortiz fight and then i think it was the first fury fight you're like no i gotta go what do you say i gotta co-correct these leave no doubt i think you were saying you said i don't want to leave no doubt about these fights

so that's why you went to fight ortiz again then you went to fight fury oh yeah is that the perfectionism in you is this like nah man i gotta make sure i i beat these guys almost definitely it's just something uh within myself not only only just what you know what others say you know because I don't really dwell in what others opinion about me what they say or what they think you know I get that confirmation for myself and God you know I mean yeah but uh when there's when there's certain things that within myself that you can't leave doubt you can feel a certain type of way you feel unaccomplished or certain things you wanted to do that you wasn't able to do or you didn't do it at that moment in time.

And especially with the RTs, you know, they'll make up all types of excuses about certain things. The referee can break it up, and if you're in your corner longer than a certain time, they're giving them more time and all this and that. You don't get no breaks in the business of boxing. With that being said, like I said, I don't

want to leave no doubts in nothing. Not even with myself or even with others. That's why I take up on certain challenges. That's not even my mandatory or I don't even have to fight at the time. But because I, especially with Ortiz, you know what I mean?

That's my, that's my guy right there. That's my brother. You know what I mean? And fighting, it does bring you together. I mean, it can bring you apart. Depends on how you handle the situation. But with Ortiz, I see a man that defected from his country for his family and came here to America to try to build and was a great fighter.

But nobody gave him an opportunity because of his, because for one, Southpaw and his skill level of being able to be a Southpaw. We don't have many Southpaws in boxing. Most of them are Octodocks, which means right-handers. But he had the skill level and his determination was through the roof to support his family. His daughter was born with a type of condition as well as mine as well. So I immediately had a connection with him,

although I knew he was dangerous. Like, I want to fight him. I want to bless him. I want to bless his family. I want to be able to bless him with money so he can support his daughter and get her out of that you know situation you know and I took up on that challenge I offered him opportunity two of them even when he failed the drug test and that's another big thing and in this business everybody want to everybody want to cheer no

matter if they put in rat poison in them they'll shoot that needle in their butt. You know what I mean? They'll put it in their arms. They'll take their certain thing. They'll eat certain type of meat and say it was bad meat or whatever. Like, they know what they're doing in this business. Everybody trying to come up and get to a certain point. But with Ortiz, I gave

him that opportunity and I blessed him and his family. He made his first million with me. Wow. That's great. his first million with me and um and that first fight with Ortiz is what showed me how much of a warrior spirit you got because I mean it's one thing when you come in there and you knocking everybody out but when you got to deal with some adversity yeah mid-fight people was like oh you people thought you was out you was out on your feet a little bit but you rebounded cleaned them up right like that's when I realized like I said okay wild is a warrior He was very skillful.

I knew what I was getting myself into, especially with Ortiz during that time. But, you know, for me, it's not win, lose, or draws for me. It's the meaning behind this fight. How is it going to help my family or his family and things like that? And that's one of the things I'm in this business for, not only just to show my greatness, because I feel we all have greatness, but greatness is only determined by service.

Every day I apply my service. I tell my children, apply your service. Every day you wake up, what makes you unique from other children, the other mindsets? When you get up, apply your greatness. That's the only way you see success in life is just applying. Or you'll be one of those people that's sitting around here

talking about somebody else, got all this time on their hands, worrying about what the other person doing or being nosy in certain businesses, stuff like that. We understand that misery needs company. And over here, we all have been, like I said, soaking in our peace. So it's only blessings come from our mouth. It's only prosperity, only positive speaking for others. Like I said, even if you're doing better than us, we're happy for you.

Now, Deontay, you have this fight on Saturday at the Barclays, and you're fighting Hellenius. So do you have a connection to him? Like you talked about the connection that you've had in the past, and you also think about the money that he's getting from this fight because this is a big deal for him. Yeah, most definitely. This is a huge deal for him, actually.

Yeah? Yeah, and the position that he's in after this fight, if victorious, he goes to become a mandatory for Usyk. Usyk, yeah. It's a title eliminator fight. Yeah, this is a WBC eliminator fight. So either one of you could go on to fight us either one of us well you know for him he's the mandatory mandatory for a certain belt that he has but um you know usi would be in the audience as well he said he wants to win others fights so fight. Oh, word? Yeah. So the next fight could be for a title.

You know, and especially if Uso is a man of his word, which I know a couple of people that have been around to know him, and, you know, they validate for him. So we'll see what happens. But with my opponent, with Robert, he's never been in this position before. And, you know, he's always wanted to become a champion for his country and all that and stuff like that. Is he from Sweden? What's that?

Where's he from? Sweden? Sweden. Yes. Sweden? Yeah, yeah. So this is a big opportunity, a big deal for him. And he's been my longtime sparring partner as well. So we kind of know each other well.

But the thing about it, this is where it counts. Everybody bring the AA plus game when they fight me for sure. My only thing with him is I just hope it be fair. A lot of these guys they want to get to a certain point and they want to

cheat and do certain things or whatever. There's so many different products out here that can't be detected. You know what I mean? It's just the drug game and people detecting it, you know, they always behind because there's always something being created and they trying to detect and then get, you know, it's crazy. So we'll see what happens.

I'm looking forward to this fight. It's going to be an amazing fight. Although he's my sparring partner, but when he get in the ring, you know, I turn it on. See, I'm always rooting for you, but I really want to see you fight U6 at this point. So I guess the politics must be keeping the U6 Fury fight from happening then. Because they was talking about that next. I don't know what's going on with that, man. That's another thing that kills boxing dealing with these

promoters you know you deal with certain managers and stuff like that and sometimes they can they can prolong a fight they can keep a fight from happening for a long period of time just like the my guy earl spencer and cross yeah yeah yeah that's it is a business like you said exactly business it's a business and everybody you know It's a business where the green-eyed monster is involved. With the green-eyed monster, they don't have no loyalty to anyone. All they want to do is fulfill their pockets and their needs. And even when it's fulfilled, they try to get extra to make sure it's good. With that being said, sometimes a fight can be prolonged.

And when the fighters are ready, I believe, you know, if you're in your prime and you're feeling good, let's get a fight on. How much money you trying to generate and trying to make? How much money do you actually need to live in this world? You know what I mean? Especially when you ain't got too much obligations to fulfill and stuff

like that. And even so, you know what I mean? Good investments will keep you going so you don't have to. Come on. You know what to say. Now, let me ask you this. With Hellenius, you said if he wins, it's mandatory for him to fight Usyk. If he does win, what does that mean for you?

Would you still want to continue to fight, or would this be it? I'd say I have three more years. You know, a lot of people always, you know, like I said, media rather be first than being correct. And they always take my words and scramble it up and make it, you know, get the clicks and likes. You know what I mean? People got to get the clicks and likes and make it sound entertaining.

Certain things he didn't say, but I'm going to put it in. You know, you got the editing. You know, you got great editors out there that put certain things in there and stuff like that. But I told him I only have three years. That's it. That could be from six fights to nine fights. And I'm out of here.

You know, I'm to the end of 40. I think that'll be it for me. And that's all the service I'm going to provide. So within these next three years, I'm going to continue to fight. Win, lose, or draw i'm gonna still do what i do at least that's my my plan right now i mean it can all change you know i mean getting hit in the head and stirring like stuff like that you know i mean it definitely cause wear and tear and um damage to your to your body all over and that's why i advise all fighters to

go get you know cat scans mris you know i mean get, you know, CAT scans, MRIs, you know what I mean, brain scans, you know, test your body, see what's going on. Because as fighters, we all, you know, we want to show how tough we are and stuff like that. And you never go and check on our body internally. You know, externally, we might feel good, we may feel great. But internally, your body could be saying a whole different story until you go get checked out and certain things like that. And I advise all my fighters to go get checked out, go see what's going on. You know what I mean? I see a couple of guys are coming out with mental illness

and being able to be comfortable to talk about it and stuff like that. But there's a lot of other things that goes on that they don't talk about, that they don't want to reveal and bring out and stuff like that. And another thing, a lot of them don't have the money to go seek certain help and stuff like that you know i mean in sports in a real sport they when you sign to a team they have should people run to you they have certain things already available mental health professionals therapists all that yeah especially health care you know 90s i mean it ain't even now in days It's just been through the history of time Certain shows is put on

You know, it's a certain requirement Of how much it's going to take To get To support this fight With insurance Health insurance and stuff like that But they only get it to the point where They can put the show on

They ain't looking to really Somebody get hurt to pay for some stuff. I done had many times where I had to go and hospital bills linger on a year, two years, and I just end up paying out my own stuff. I have my own things set up because I've already learned through the history of time, you better have your own in this. This is an individual business all the way through. It's a team effort. You got your team, of course.

They train you. That's the team effort, but they can't help you when you get in that square ring. I was going to ask you, you know, having football players up there, one of the questions is if you have a son or a child, would you want your child to play football? And 90% of them say no. If one of your children wanted to box with everything that you said, with injuries and, you know, your head's not supposed to get hit, would you want your child to box?

For me, it's all about, especially with my children, how they feel. You know, if they show me passion, if they show dedication, if they show hard work at it, then I'm going to let my children do whatever they, you know, whatever's possible for them and they feel like they can do it, I'm going to 100% support them. I'm going to tell them the pros and cons of it and what all it can take. And by them being raised into this, you know, they see it. You know, they understand. They comprehend very intelligently what's going on. And if that's something that they're serious about they got to be serious about this

business you know I mean because I take it seriously and I speak that's why that's why I came from a different place right you came from Alabama you want to get out you wanted to provide for your family they don't necessarily have to do that you know me so it's a different fight it's a different feeling it's a different exactly and you don't see people getting into this business that got it made or with a silver spoon in their mouth it ain't for those type of people if for people that come out of poverty or looking to help their family you know get to some type of financial gain and

different things like only time you see you see people with a silver spoon that get into this business, they doing exhibitions and stuff like that. You know what I mean? But as far as the business is concerned, and you had to start from the ground up, you don't see that.

And we all just trying to make it. That's why you see fighters still signing bad deals with bad promoters and stuff like that. Because the way they do it, they'll set a breach. It can be $50,000, you know?

And if you won't have no money, that's a million dollars to you. You know, I remember when $100 was like, shit, that shit was like $100,000 to me. You know what I mean? You held it tight. You know what I'm saying? Knowing that you had to feed the family.

You had to feed the family and go to work, and that's gas. So between that time and feeding the family and gas, you really had no extra money for extra curricular activities and stuff like that. This is all you had. And you hold that tight. So when certain promoters come in, they'll bring that briefcase with all that money.

You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? And whether it slide on the table or put it right there in front of you, I won't say names or certain guys or certain information and stuff like that. You know, but they do it. And when you're in a hard rock, in a hard spot, what are you going to do? Especially you young. You're used to fighting for free anyway.

Let me get that bread real quick. You already got in your mind what you want to do with it, how want to spin it already spent i was i was reading this article on a boxing scene by lyle fitzsimmons and he said something that i totally disagree with he says he feels like you're not a hall of famer what do you say to that you know everybody gonna have their opinion about certain things you know i mean i don't you know that's that's their right to hold that opinion on themselves opinions can be wrong dead right most definitely most mean, you know, that's that's their right to hold that opinion on themselves. Opinions can be wrong. Most definitely. Most definitely. But, you know, my my fist is already in the Hall of Fame.

And so my body will carry with me along with it, whether they believe it or not. It ain't up to them at the end of the day. And what I've done, I've done amazing things. You know, I've done things where, you know, these former greats that's in the Hall of Fame they haven't done. You know what I mean? I've passed, surpassed and stuff. And put the icing on the cake, how many greats you know got a statue?

A legit. I ain't talking about where a facility, where a facility say, hey, I want to give you a statue. I want to pay some money, give you a statue or whatever, or organization come in. I want to give you. No, I'm talking about some money to give you a statue or whatever, or organization come in. I want to give you. No, I'm talking about state-funded, like a legit statue. Not too many.

Not too many. So when they did that, they put me in a short bus of the few that have statues out here that represent something, that really mean something. When you get a statue, man, that right, they put all my accomplishments. They said all my accomplishments, what I've done inside the arena have been set in stone within the

statue, so can't nobody take that away from me ever. When I die, when the haters die down, or even when my lovers die down, when the inevitable come for us, that statue will still be there. You know what I mean? With that being said, I don't care about what people say or what they

do. Just, you know, let's see what happens. And we'll see. I know what the future holds. I know what it's going to be. And that's all that matters. Does stuff like that fuel you? It doesn't. It doesn't.

You know what I mean? Because everyday life fuels me. Like I said, providing my service to my greatness, that's what fuels me. I practice what I preach. You know what I mean? I can't say one thing and that's what fuels me. I practice what I preach. You know what I mean? I can't say one thing and then go do the other. You know what I mean? My grandma told me years ago, she said, baby, you're not going to be able to talk like others.

You're not going to be able to hang out like other people hang out. You're not going to be able to do certain things like others do because God is trying to use you. You are anointed by God. And as you live life and you experience certain things, you understand more and more what your parents was talking about, your grandmother or certain people. Just because a person is old don't mean

they were wise. So don't take it as, oh, you better listen to that old man or that old woman. They know what they're talking about. That don't mean it as, oh, you better listen to that old man or that old woman. They know what they're talking about. That don't mean they're wise. Wisdom comes from knowledge. And you must apply knowledge to life to become wise or you'll be considered as what we all may know, old fool.

You know what I mean? So when she told me that, you know, I've experienced stuff and I apply knowledge to life and I understand certain things. That's why, you know, I'm a homebody. I don't really, people don't really see me. You know what I mean? I don't really go anywhere. You know, I'm happy at the home.

You know, I have multiples of properties all over. And me and my family, we travel to different things. We're happy, we're content. And I love to see, I love to speak positivity on them and to show them what it is to really be loved and show support and be able to provide your greatness into this world. Because if you don't, you're going to be stuck. You're going to be sitting around. And while we know that years pass by, you know what I mean? Three years. I've seen I got three more years. That's going to go by so fast. You know what I mean? Just imagine you being 25 and that thing, you turn up,

you're 30 years old and 37 now. What are you like? What a year has gone. You see your kids, they're getting older and older. How I test my kids is their height is, you know, how they can't reach over the counter so you can put certain things on the counter. Now they're getting to the point where they can just reach things and do things. I'm like, man, they're growing.

So, you know, I don't worry about stupidity. You know what I mean? I just don't, I don't take in. I don't, because sometimes you can get, you can get 99 people that's saying great things about you. And you can get this one person to say some foul stuff all out of the way. That got spicy with the mouth. And you want to, out of all these people you didn't comment, and you want to come into

this one person that's sent you some emotional garbage. And people get more attention when they say something that's, like, contrary to what other people are saying. Exactly. You know why? Because this world dwells on negativity. They dwell on, that's why the news always, that's why, you know, it's always bad.

And if it's good, nobody want to hear about no good. If it bleeds, it leads in the news. That's what they do. And it's so backward. And if it's good, nobody want to hear nothing about no good. If it bleeds, it leads in the news. That's what they do. And it's so backwards. This world's backwards, what we say and what we do. You know what I mean?

Nobody care about the good. Nobody want to, for so long, oh, that's cool, that's cool. But everybody want to hear about who in who business, who cheated on who, who did this,

who got shot or whatever. But if anybody doing some type of charity work or helping a family out or keeping this family from the bank closing their house, they should have saved them and they should have did it. Nobody don't care about the good in this

world. It's all bad and negative and it's crazy because that's the only thing that can entertain people is the bad and stuff. That's the only thing that can motivate them and excite them. But if your mind was advanced and you and you had a mind that didn't worry about certain things of the world that stuff would make bring happiness

to you it would bring peace to you you know i mean you will look at a person you would really be happy for them not only because you see them doing good but it's a feeling it's just like music music is something you feel and not what you hear so when you hear people doing, seeing certain things or you hear certain things, that feeling inside, especially like you say you love somebody. You know you love somebody. It's a feeling. It ain't just saying, oh, I love you. You know what I'm saying?

When I say it, I can feel it. And that's when you know it's authentic, it's real, it's genuine. And that's why I love the people around me. That when you say something to me, you feel it. It your heart right you know I'm saying because that's what make the body run your mind don't control your your body you know I mean a lot of people think the mind controls the body but it's not it's your heart that's why you got to follow your heart because many times the mind will tell you quit it'll tell you to give up you can't do it and when negativity when people throw in emotional garbage your way you might you know what you're the product thing yeah

they right you can have all the talent in the world but you won't you won't be able to show the world your talent because you worry about what somebody else saying or thinking about you so you sit back and cheer and let somebody else don't care about what the what the talk is and let them bloom and blossom and get all the things it took you a while to get to that point though because you are the person who uh invited a troll to the gym back in the day well no i came to him i went to him i went to him but you know were you shocked he was there when you showed up I wasn't shocked he was shocked I came because he he was in California and I'm come all the way from Alabama So he didn't expect me to come but uh for me, I always tell people for me to truly understand you when people are describing or

Saying things to me. It's like in my head up. It's like a movie for me So that's how I press play as you explain so I see it playing as a movie that's the only thing I like I get excitement or I can laugh at certain things harder than others or whatever it may not even be funny to that person but to me it's it's hilarious because I've pressed play in my head and saw you know certain things happening and and and that's how that's how I am all the way so when he was he when he was writing to me and he was explaining about duct tape in my daughter's mouth and all these different things I visualize her in the chair

Oh you know she crying for daddy and that's all that's all I I went I went my whole intentions was to go kill him you know i mean it wasn't to box him you know boxing was the thing to to to get it set up to do it you know i mean i brought my gun and everything i brought my camera guy and i brought one of my one of my good good one of my brothers with me um to this uh to this lovely event that we was about to have. And when he saw me, his eyes like he seen a ghost because he wasn't, you know, they talk, talk, talk. They don't think he's going to show up. He didn't expect it at all.

You know what I mean? And when I came, man, when I saw this dude, like the feeling that came over me. So I know how people, how the devil, they say the devil got in me. I know that feeling. You know what I'm saying? And I had to really like,

anyway, it was crazy. I don't know if that's the devil. We was having this conversation this morning because I was talking about the reason you leave people's kids alone is because when you ask a parent, what would you do if somebody did such and such to your kid?

The answer is I don't know because you don't know how you're gonna be pushed as a parent when somebody do something to your child to say something to your child come on especially when you love your children that's right that's right so you don't know what love is until you have a child right that's why for me one of the greatest gift in this world is having my children being somebody's father you know I mean ain't nothing precious to being somebody's father and and that's I mean? There ain't nothing precious than being somebody's father. And that's one of the things, you know.

And then my daughter, you know, she was born with spina bifida. And I told her when she was two, I said, Daddy's going to be able to support you. Daddy's going to be able to support you. He's going to be a world champion and be able to support you beyond your belief. And, you know, when you see people like that and stuff like that, you just, it just something got in me.

What happened? We end up, I end up, we end up, the gym that we was at, they wouldn't let us do our thing up in there. So we had to walk to another gym and then on the way of walking, I seen this dark alley and the devil got in me again. I started walking in the alley, and my voice changed and stuff. And, you know, my guy's hanging with me, the film guy. He was behind because he was filming everything,

and I just, all of a sudden, something just came up. Come in this alley, and I made up my mind. I was going to kill him right there in that alley. I made up my mind it was going to happen. But then a vision came in my head, and I seen my film man snitching on me. You know what I mean? And, you know, he's a friend of mine.

And I'm like, damn. I had to take a deep breath because, you know what I mean? We glad you didn't crash. We glad you didn't crash. I can't believe he walked with you and was coming out. Hold on. The video, I saw the video of you beating on him in the gym. Yeah, that's when we got to the gym.

Oh, we got to the gym. Okay, okay, okay. And I ended up getting my lawyer to, you know, make some papers up so I wouldn't get it legally. He wouldn't, you know, sue me or nothing like that. And he ended up signing it. For the grace of God, I brought two left gloves. So my right hand had a left glove on it as well.

And I made sure that I packed right and left because I know I'm, you know what I mean? But it was the grace of God all the way through. It was just the grace of God. That was something,

you know, in my life, there was a, you know, situation where, like you said, you don't know what you're going, you don't know what you're doing

when you're dealing with your children. You just don't know. You know what I mean? That can be a trigger point, you know, right there. You know, like I'm willing to't know what you're gonna you don't know what you're doing dealing with your children you don't know you know me that can be a trigger point you know right there you like I'm willing to lose everything that's right my child you know I mean and but you know oh you know it's a lesson as you live in life like I said through through through experience and through knowledge

you apply it to life and it makes you wise. So at this point in time, anybody would do it now. I don't know what I'd do. Now hold on. I was about to be like, I don't know about that. Did you feel man ever really snitch on you about anything? Nah, it wasn't nothing to snitch on at that point in time. Okay, is he still with you? Yeah, yeah, he is.

Okay, okay, okay. So you just see visions of things. He's seen the movie beforehand. And you can figure, it's kind of like a little bit of a psychic ability? Yes. I don't know. I don't know. I know I had the discernment of spirit, that's for sure. I know I had many situations where I saw visions of things or of people that had happened only in the last three seconds. Two to three seconds and then they go away. And certain events have occurred and happened. Like since you were young or is this something sometimes you can sometimes you make it have

ability to do something and then things happen to you you ignore it or you don't know what's going on with you you know what i'm saying and as i got older i started tapping into myself and the only way i could tap into myself is spending a lot of long time with myself that's why I tell people spend a lot of time with yourself. It's so refreshing it's amazing to spend a long time with yourself to be able to say I'm by myself or you can I can spend months by myself just being me I don't need no TV I don't need internet I don't need none of that because my mind is so unique. It is so advanced.

I tell people that a spaceship can fit in, although I'm from a small place, but my mind is so big. It's not narrow, man. It's huge. And when you have the ability to tap in with self and to tap in with the universe and the things around you, you find entertainment within yourself. You find that I don't need certain things. I don't need certain people.

I don't need certain activities to occur in my life where I feel like I can't be at home. Because some people just can't stay at home. They got to be somewhere. They got to go somewhere. They got to be around certain people and stuff. Or if not, then their life is so boring. You know what I mean? Blessings to them. But I thank God that, you know,

my mind has said that I don't have to be around certain people. I don't have to go certain places. I don't have to have certain things, you know, to have entertainment to find joy up in this world. I can have me, myself, and I. You know what I mean? And it does great work when you're definitely big into meditation. Absolutely.

You know what I'm saying? And you come. Meditation with visualization has been a big part of my life. When did you pick it up? I picked it up in the Olympics. When I went to the Olympics, we had a person come to the Olympics to train us. And we had an exercise dealing with meditation. Oh, I even go there a long time. Yeah.

And certain things, I like been doing it a long time. Yeah, and certain things, I like to take certain things serious. A lot of the guys, being fighters, especially being fighters, certain things, you just want to hold that image, whatever, and all that and stuff. But for me, we was practicing some things. She made us get on the mat, close our eyes,

and start visualizing certain things. I took it very serious, and I thank God i did because i took so much from it and that was the start of me starting uh meditation so from that point on i started practicing and practicing practice makes perfect so i started practicing and then practicing it and i started tapping to it even more so than ever. And especially when you visualize through meditation. And visualization is just visualize yourself. It's just like every day. What you want to do today? You want to visualize yourself having a great day.

You want to do this. What you want to eat? Who you want to meet? What kind of energy you want to be around you and stuff like that. And you visualize. It's almost like cheating on a test. And then when life actually happens to occur, you're running through that course. You may not get everything that you visualize on there.

It's just like life. Sometimes the toughest things are the things that you don't see coming. How you're able to dwell in the moment of death or how bounce back or how you handle a situation where you couldn't visualize or meditate on and then it happened occurs but the things that you can't control it is like i saw this that's right you know i mean it's just like running a race you can see the course you can visualize the course you know everything in that course and when you run that course it's like it was easy it's like breathe you know you did it with with no effort because you already visualize yourself going through it So when it was time to do it, it was easy and it's a beautiful thing

Once you know, it may not happen for you on the first second third fourth trial, but practice made perfect That's what they say and and I advise everybody to uh to get into some type of meditation whether this visualization or what is just You know getting with yourself. They got a beautiful app. They call to get into some type of meditation, whether it's visualization or whether it's just, you know, getting with yourself. They got a beautiful app they call Headspace that teaches you. Headspace, yeah, the Calm app. I love meditation.

I tried it back in the day, couldn't grasp it. About two years ago, I finally learned how to do it. I do it with my beads, though. I count my beads and I chant my mantra. Yes, sir.

And I'm able to just escape for like 10 minutes. So do you have a certain room you go in or because some people you know make their closets into yeah certain things and stuff like that i go in a room in my crib turn the lights off count my beads chant my affirmation i try to do it in the morning and sometimes that night before i go to bed yeah makes your brain still right i think I so big into it well when I built my home I built a meditation room yeah I'm doing that yeah man beautiful and then when I go in there I always watch my hands feet and face because I want purity come in and my grandmother she was she was you know very big into

to the Bible and she was a pastor so she used to always wear white. So I got this white uniform that every time I wash my hands, feet, and face and put my uniform on, nothing under it, just that. And I go up in there, man, it's just purity. It come what I ask for, what I think about, what I visualize, and stuff like that. And whatever I'm going through before I went in there, when I get out, hey, how you doing? You know what I visualize and stuff like that. And whatever I'm going through before I went in there, when I get out, hey, how you doing?

You know what I mean? You smile and you're happy. You feel with love. You feel, you know, it's a beautiful thing. And I think the world should be able to practice it and try to get some type of understanding because a lot of things goes on in the world, man. It's just like, you're like, like man what the world are we doing

especially you know black on black crimes you know I mean I'm so sick of it and I said how you feel a certain passion in your heart when you say I love you so when I say that like I'm tired of it sometime I see Vincent for me for me, I shed tears. You know what I mean? I genuinely cry for my people. I'm like, oh, my goodness. It's like we got enough enemies.

We don't got to be each other's enemy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. It's so sad, bro. It's so sad to see certain things and senseless, especially when it's senseless killing. Man, and I understand the certain things and senseless, especially when it's senseless killing. Man, and I understand certain things that they put us in a situation where we have to fight our certain things.

I understand certain things, but certain things are senseless, man. It's just crazy. Still breaks your heart. Ah, man, I want to shed tears right now. I get it. You know what I mean? Because that's how tired I am of seeing it. and and still breaks your heart ah man i want to share tears right now i get it you know i mean because i'm so tired that's how tired i am just of seeing it i'm like i know the world is against

loving and and all the positive things but like god come on like what what are you what are you doing if you ain't if you ain't providing your greatness to the world what what is what is the purpose you know i mean if you want to go kill, I ain't going to promote that. I ain't going to say that. See, I've learned to certain things that say a whole back on and not say it

because certain people can take it out of proportion of what I say, but man, we need to spread more love to the world, especially with our own

kind because this is ridiculous. What's going on in the world is so ridiculous. I want to ask you one more thing. I know you said a full fight with Fury is possible. What's going on in the world is so ridiculous. I want to ask you one more thing. I know you said a four-fight with Fury is possible. I saw Fury say that too.

You say you want U6. Anthony Joshua, if that fight became available, would you take that one? Most definitely. Actually, me and Anthony Joshua is still the biggest fight in the world to be made. A lot of people say that. It is. Even bigger than Fury and Joshua? Even bigger than Fury and Usyk.

You know what I mean? Yeah, probably worldwide. Yeah, yeah. I get what you're saying. Everywhere I go, they still ask about it. I don't care, man. They want to see that fight. I don't think Anthony Joshua last two rounds with you.

That's my personal opinion. He just, I mean, Joshua just, I don't know don't know man he just he don't have his own mind bro he just i don't want i don't see him talking negative about nobody or nothing like that it just i expect certain things for certain people and stuff like that and i hope they expect it for himself i see so much potential and so so much more left that he can do. But I think the people that are around here get in his head and certain things, and he's not the type of person that can differentiate between certain things.

And, of course, certain people have brought you up in certain ways, but sometimes you've got to have your own mind to understand what's right and wrong and how you're going to be up for your family and not be up for this man or whatever. Because I always tell fighters, we are the product. You're not going to put no ass in the seat

without the product. That's point blank, period. That's it. You can't do it. And by us being the product, we have the power. And when you get to a certain level, you should be able to use your power.

That's why I never let anyone dictate it, how my career should go. And that's why I'm in a position where over 98%, my percentage, 98% of the fighters don't have nothing to show for after the game is over with. But you see all these, you know, Hall of Fame, you're like, man, he was a great fighter. You know, he did this and that, But what did he have to show for? Instead of Parkinson's, instead of brain damage or mental illness or speech impairments, certain things that they, hospital bills that's through the roof that they can't even support.

But you see those same people that made the fights and managed them and still, ah, he was great. They're millionaires. They live in mansions. Their children are taken care of. Their grandkids are taken care of. You know what I mean? But the fighter that made all this stuff happen have nothing to show for.

And that's why I made a stand for myself, and I tried to help other fighters as well, especially, you know, those that were here, you know, what I'm doing, how I am. But, you know, sometimes when people feel that you're from a small place or whatever, you don't really know what I'm doing how I am but you know sometimes when people feel that you from a small place or whatever you don't really know what you're talking about they you know sometimes I make up my own words sometimes I stumble over certain words and stuff like that. We from the south that's what we do man and I'm passionate about what I say so sometimes my passion can overflow and

what I'm saying. That happens up here all the time with us. And they're like you I'm saying? And they're like, oh, he don't know what you're talking about. But the proof is in the pudding. I stand in a beautiful seat, you know what I mean, right now in life. You know what I mean? I have a beautiful family. My finances is amazing. I'm in a business where I do not have to come back to ever again, no matter what. And a lot of fighters can't say that.

Even a lot of them at the top, you know what I mean, can't say. A lot of them at the top ask for advances, you know what I mean, because their money has ran low. So they ask for advances for the next fight and stuff like that. And it's crazy. And I try to tell them. But with the Joshua, when you're talking about a guy talking about

he got to go to America to find a heart, you know what I mean? I don't know. Maybe he watched The Wizard of Oz before seeing that, and then that came up or whatever. But, you know, certain things he says, it just, you know, it don't register to me. You know, I don't know. I don't want to talk negative about it. You think he wants to make the fight?

That's a question I'll buy. Because if they didn't want to take $50 million guaranteed, they ain't going to want to fight, bro. $50 million. And when I made that out on my social media, that came from my analyst. That came from Al Hamer himself. He said, D, put it out.

Tell him. And then Joshua hit me up personally himself. And I'm like, bro, I even more so got on him. Like, you don't need certain people, bro. You know that, right? You are the product. You can do this. We can do this, man.

We can make a lot of money. We can do this. Boom, boom, boom. Everything we said to do, went back and showed his. I ain't going to say the things I always said. I'm better. I'm coming. He visualized it right now.

The fight is this Saturday. That's right. At the Barclays. Deontay Wilder. We appreciate you for joining us this morning. Man, thank you so much. Hey, Wilder is back. The excitement is back.

Please come and show support and love. You don't want to miss this fight. It's going to be on Fox pay-per-view right here in Brooklyn. Do you feel like you need a knockout? That's just what I do. You know what I mean? That just come with me. Knocking guys out, putting them on the canvas and stuff like that.

So my title for this second reign is to have fun. You know what I mean? I've accomplished so much in the seat that I sit in. Like you said, I don't have nothing to prove. But I do want to bring the excitement. So here we are once again. We're back at it. The heavyweight division was boring when I left. I'm back!

And now it's back to sight. The reason you should come and see this fight because with Deontay Wilder, I'm always going to put you on the edge of your seat. You don't know what's going to happen, but when it happens, bam, baby, good night. That's right. Deontay Wilder. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand-new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The cracker, the bat, and another one gone. to life through hip-hop. Each episode is about a different, inspiring figure from history, like this one about Claudette Colvin,

a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me. Did you know, did you know? I wouldn't give up my seat. Nine months before Rosa, it was called a golden year. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to Historical Records.

Because in order to make history, you have to make some noise. Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.