The Breakfast Club - DeRay Davis Interview

Episode Date: April 9, 2015

DeRay Davis stops through to discuss his new MTV Show Joking Off. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:03:05 Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Charlamagne Tha God, we are The Breakfast Club. Special guest in the building, Mr. D-Ray Davis. Yo. D-Ray, the difference maker, Davis. That's who I am, man. Smell the roses. Let me get this out. Hey, man, that's the light-skinned gangster coming back, man. You saw D-Ray on Empire when he played the killer.
Starting point is 00:03:19 That's who I am, played. That's the first real-life role I had right there. That was true to life right there, man man I ain't play no games in that man It was time for people to go man Absolutely They pay me in Taraji too In cookies? They gave you cookies?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Now you got the show Joking Off coming on MTV too Joking Off coming out man Just you know more roasting the internet And the pictures that you been posting up lately You know, all your unnecessary selfies. Premiere's April 1st, April Fool's Day.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Aren't you on the premiere or something? Nah, I was on the sneak peek episode, I think. Yeah, they didn't want to show his whole, you know. That was it. He just got that barely in there. It's the second time you hosted a game show, right? Yeah, I guess it is. I try not to count
Starting point is 00:04:07 the mind of a man because I wore them suits and I was losing fan base. What, from wearing suits? Yeah, I was having like 70-year-old women walking me to the airport trying to bust down. You was getting your Steve Harvey? They was trying to get it to me. I heard you like this. Yeah, man, the Steve Harvey suit wasn't
Starting point is 00:04:23 me. But them checks are good, though. The checks are always good, man. The street check's good, too, but I don't go sell that stuff no more. He said no more. I ain't on the block no more. But it shows diversity, though. You know what I'm saying? Well, let's talk about the show Joking Off for people who don't understand what it is.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Explain it. Yeah, I didn't know it was a game show. Well, it's a game show amongst the comics. It's three groups of comedians, each consisting of two guys. And radio personalities. And ladies. I'm sorry, radio personalities. Comedians is comedic. People with satire of comedic, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:51 They can handle it all like yourself. You know what I mean? And they basically got to post stuff from the internet, and then they go on there, and they got to make comments about it or roast it, and whoever do it the best, you know, they go on to the next round. So it ain't no real game show game show because we not giving away no hundred thousand dollars, which I learned how to say after doing that game show.
Starting point is 00:05:11 How do you figure out what pictures to use and do you have to clear? I was going to say the same thing. You got to clear those pictures. I don't think so. Once people post something, I think it's all game though. Once you post it, I mean, it's in the atmosphere. I don't know. I see people suing now.
Starting point is 00:05:22 They post pictures of me and we suing. If somebody else posts a picture of you, but if you post it, you know what I'm saying? First of all, you can't sue anyway. You're a public figure, brother. Damn it, man. Public figure, dog. You out there. You belong to everybody.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Congratulations to the meme game, homie. Word is born. Unless you light-skinned. We don't sue. We're too gay to sue. We're too gay to sue. No, we don't sue. We bought his first house off a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:05:44 What we do is we find out who the dude girl is and bang him out. That's what I do. I find out who your girl is. I make you pay at home. Y'all gonna argue about D-Ray. But you did date Claudia Jordan, right? Nah, I didn't. We just started.
Starting point is 00:05:57 We just wanted to start a rumor. She wanted to feel important. Oh, she wanted to start a rumor. Okay, because she said, oh, no, that was on the groupie tale about you. I keep throwing a lot of those groupie tales out there. You actually commented on the groupie tale, so I did think it was true. Did I bang that chick? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I hit her. So you knew who she was and everything. I knew who she was because she commented after my sister started. When she started, my sister started going back and forth. And I said, yo, let the girl live. Then eventually I seen what she said, and I wasn't upset about none of that because if you don't talk, if you don't hit a girl twice,
Starting point is 00:06:27 you see, our thing gonna even shrink or we wasn't good if you don't hit her back but then she begging for roles on TV shows. I don't promise those things in the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Hold on, you guys tell me, let me pull up some of the key parts. I'm very quiet in that. But I thought Claudia Jordan said. When she started dropping down
Starting point is 00:06:41 though, talking about addresses and where near one of my homes. That's disrespectful. That was disrespectful, man. My daughter and them out there. You can't do that, man.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You know what I'm saying? She said your penis wasn't big, but it wasn't small either. Well, I'm American. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What does that mean? I fit right in the middle? Is that how you would categorize it if somebody could describe your penis?
Starting point is 00:06:59 It's not big, but it's not small. I wouldn't even talk about it because that's how, how do I know what a girl had before me? I might be huge to some girl. It's relative. Well, the fact that I got it, the fact that I had to get my condoms prescription made, you know what I mean? I figure it's a little bit bigger than normal. So Claudia Jordan wasn't a real situation? No, man. She said you had too many bitches.
Starting point is 00:07:16 But she right about that. I mean, there's some facts in her conversation. Man, let me tell you something. Claudia gave me opportunity, man. I just might wife her for a little bit, man. I was going to ask you. I like, no, I never hit her, man. One of her girls from back in the day,
Starting point is 00:07:30 I can't remember which one because that's how I met her. I can't remember which one. But Claudia's, man, she's a sexy girl, man. I do it to her. I think she's single now, too. I do it to her. All women are single till they marry.
Starting point is 00:07:41 True. What, you're not single? What, till I'm married married are you single right now no who you go with hmm he said who you go with like this is third you go who you go with you give me see you today but she give a sad chick answers now like who you dating she like look just know that he loved me and we different oh man that's terrible you need to know. Oh, man, that's terrible. You can't even say it. You exposed some side chicks. All right. D-Ray, you like a young OG in the comedy game. I say that. Yeah, very comfortable.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Is it true that it can only be one at a time? Because you've been getting it for a minute. Man, I hear that, but I say people be chasing that Will Smith, man, and that's like Kevin, that's a phenom. That don't happen. Cat, that don't happen, man. You know what I mean? You can't go chasing that that I'm Sam Jackson with it
Starting point is 00:08:25 I'ma stay working I'ma stay in the movie I'ma stay on the TV show You know what I mean Cause comics will look A certain way too It's harder for them You know harder for
Starting point is 00:08:34 I won't say harder for me But it's harder for me It's harder for you Comic yeah Cause I mean I don't got no weird look About me I don't got no
Starting point is 00:08:40 So you're saying Most comics are ugly They are Comics be ugly as hell They do Wow And then I'm not No little guy So you're saying most comics are ugly or something? They are. Comics be ugly as hell. They do. Wow. And then I'm not no little guy, so I'm, you know, it's not, it's like you can't be,
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'm an intimidating guy in the room. I don't, I don't, I'm from a different place. It's like reverse discrimination kind of. Yeah, yeah, but then those cats, and once you get in, and Kevin works so damn hard, dude, you can't, I can't work half as hard as that dude, man. Why not? I just can't, because things come easy to me. It just came easy. The money came easy.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Stuff was coming easy for me. So, you know, what's the dude name he played for? Like the J.R. Ryder. Like natural hops, great shot. You know, he didn't want to go to practice. Allen Iverson. Allen Iverson. Iverson, great, talented, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:09:21 He's like, you know, you got to practice, too. Wait, are you talking about J.R. Smith? Yeah, not J.R. Smith. J.R. Ryder. Ryay rider no smith on his way perfect example like alan ovison he didn't need to practice yeah so you feel it and i think one day i need to wake up and actually go to practice man because i mean naturally i'm just funny i'm my family hood everybody funny everybody roasted everybody day. So it's a different place, man. But you're right, man.
Starting point is 00:09:47 It is one at a time, though. Really? Eddie? Did you see Eddie movies dropping at the same time Kevin's dropping? No. All right. But I remember the time
Starting point is 00:09:55 when it was like Martin and it was like, seemed like it was the Kings of Comedy. It seemed like it was a nice influx of them at one point. Yeah, touring. That's going to always happen. I mean, I just sold out
Starting point is 00:10:05 nine shows in Houston. That don't happen. That ain't never happened in history. But you're not thinking about getting your own TV shows and getting... But you'll get a show
Starting point is 00:10:12 because Gerard just got a show. So now that after Empire, Empire has so much impact, they like... Who else black? Empire to Dr. Martin Luther King. Where's black people at? We need some more black people.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Jermaine Fowler got a show. Jermaine Fowler got a show? So they give it to you. But I'm talking about that peak that Kevin about to do, what, 50 million this year? That don't happen. And to be a humble guy, too. God don't give it to people like me. Give me 50 million.
Starting point is 00:10:34 He gave you the looks. He can't give you everything. Yeah, man. What do you do with 50 million? I'm going to replace all my bones with gold. I'm going to be the heaviest in the club. Do you think, for you, they give you a lot of roles, but it seems like they don't give you the lead roles.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I mean, you got Grow House coming. Grow House coming out. I've had opportunities, man. I ain't going to lie. When I got to Hollywood, I was more than an a-hole, man. I probably made Kanye look. You don't think nobody want to give you nothing. You're like, what is this for?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Something got to be a setup. Really? You know what I mean? I moved out there with a deal i mean i got half a mil soon i moved out there for nothing just to develop you know i mean but i i mean i won the laugh rise but still i had to go through the process of saying what i want to develop as a show having a tv show i've had tv shows develop comedy central you get opportunities but sometimes man you're not prepared for you're not ready for it and i're not ready for it. And I know I wasn't ready. I know my acting was terrible.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Did it make other comics mad at you? Like, I've been working so hard doing this, grinding, and this guy just comes in here. But I was like, yo, I'm funny. I would say that on stage. I'd be like, everybody gonna stay. I would say stuff like, when Dave Chappelle came back, he went on stage for like an hour at the Laugh Factory. Then Chris Tucker went up. The crowd going crazy, excited.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And I was supposed to have been up. And I'm like, yo, what the hell going on? I knowpelle but you know he disappeared type of thing and everybody's like yo calm down i went up on stage after that and i was like get up for my opener day chapelle chris tucker you flexed on your dude and they were like what like you can't talk like that man and i mean things like that that come you know you got but of course they you know laughed about it later but you you got to think about the moments that you you know you got but of course they you know laughed about it later but you you gotta think about the moments that you you know you gotta choose your moments and pick your battles and i feel like i i i snap off man how was that show after standing ovation i don't play games man when it comes to funny i mean nobody can't i'm i'm jigger with it they know there's not going
Starting point is 00:12:19 nobody's gonna be me did you watch the justin bieber roast no i did not but i heard it was the most rude stuff. I heard Luda almost got in a fight. Heard people in that slap box and some things too soon, man. Shouldn't be no Paul Walker jokes, man. That dude just passed, really. The only reason I felt like it was fair game is because they was making jokes about Pete Davidson's dead father. So if you're going to make jokes about one dead guy, make jokes, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, but he's right there, though. The movie's about to come out. It's still kind of fresh. Nobody had to protect him, man. And this Bieber's roast, like, what that dude right there, though. The movie's about to come out. It's still kind of fresh. Nobody there to protect him, man. And it's Bieber's roast. Like, that dude, man, they just— Some people, man, they figure, like, shock value, you're going to win, and they don't. Because if he had brothers like—if any of us pass, and you say that around one hour,
Starting point is 00:12:56 real brothers and sisters, somebody's going to fight. There's no stopping no dude from getting to it. You see how the courtrooms be when they announce to the dude? When they—you see how just the courtroom be? So just, man, I don't participate in roasts like that. If it's a street roast, I roast in Miami on a block with 100 people watching in a heartbeat because we right there. But on some, man, I don't know them people.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I don't know people. So there are things off limits for you. You're not just going to go at any. Because some people, some comedians say there's nothing off limits. We go at anything. Yeah, they say that. But then they don't want to see nobody outside. You know, a lot of people tweet
Starting point is 00:13:27 but don't want the beat. It happens daily, so I just prepare myself for what I'm ready for. If I know you, we chilling. Like, I want Envy, if you roast me
Starting point is 00:13:36 and I roast back with you, I know how far to take it with you. I know how far, but me and Charlamagne, we go left, absolutely left, so I'm used to it,
Starting point is 00:13:44 you know what I mean? So, just got to pick it, man. Yeah, Envy's a little sensitive. He is. He's sensitive. Envy cool as hell, man. I remember I announced my brother was signed to DTP, and then Luda called. I was like, my brother signed to DTP. He was like, can you announce?
Starting point is 00:13:58 I was like, yeah, then Luda called right after that. Don't announce that. He was like, you got in trouble, didn't you? On the air. Steph. Steph Jones. Oh, yeah, I remember Steph. Yeah, yeah. That was hilarious. That's your real brother? Yeah, my real brother. Same pops and everything. He just ain't got the same swag, of course,
Starting point is 00:14:14 but he cool. You said when you first got to Hollywood, you had an attitude. Did that hinder you later on? Did execs hold that against you? Yeah, they do, but man, things that open up so much with the media and social and social media and everything you never know who an exec now so it's weird like be really young execs and something like that but back then the older people man you can't go in the room talking about menages and what you just did now you can but back then
Starting point is 00:14:38 you couldn't people like what you talking about what is this oh we don't want to hear about this you know this is this is ho Hollywood. It's owned by the Jewish people and women. You got to figure your spot in there. I don't think it hindered me as far as my comedy though because I'm still growing as a comic. I stay working. But you can pigeonhole yourself
Starting point is 00:14:57 and be like, yo, that's it. People do it all. You see it happen, man. You've been wondering what happened to people. Where does it do that? Yeah, man. I'm just trying to stay afloat and just stay in my lane. Now, you posted a video of your daughter playing basketball. Uh-oh. And she's very competitive. Are you the crazy dad on that court?
Starting point is 00:15:14 Because I am. I'm the one that's yelling, screaming. Dude, I got to apologize for being the drunk dad at the court, man, because I think she having fun. I'll be thinking, like, I'm just happy she's out there doing something different. And the weird part is that her mother's boyfriend is a dude really training her, but I go get all the credit. Dude, dude go to the camp with her, show her how to drip water. I'm like, that's what you're supposed to do living in my house under my child support.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Child support, pay for that. Yeah, but he's a good coach, man. So he stay on it with that, man. I'm just on about these dudes. I just don't want her to be pregnant by 16. All right, that's it. Keep her not from getting pregnant. I text my daughter middle of the night, 2, 3 in the morning,
Starting point is 00:15:56 don't be a hoe. Keep off the strip club and keep off reality TV. 14. Don't be a hoe. Oh, man, she might just make reality TV this year, though. My fault. That's you? It's me on my show, yeah. You doing a reality show? Yeah, we doing Oh, man, she might just make reality TV this year, though. My fault. That's you? It's me on my show, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:07 You doing a reality show? Yeah, we doing it, man. But it's Comedians of L.A., so it's like showing me. Damn, I don't think I'm supposed to be announcing this. What network? Here I go again. You got in trouble? Damn, I'm in trouble again.
Starting point is 00:16:18 What network? A couple networks. This is the first time. Actually, the breakdown is out. I'm going to be part of the show that they just put it out. Brandon T. Jackson is on it. And it just all, the breakdown is out. I'm going to be part of the show that they just put it out. Brandon T. Jackson is on it. And it just all, the breakdown just came out yesterday. So it's all over the place
Starting point is 00:16:29 as far as that. I just didn't sign that paperwork yet. They got to get that paper right. So it's not there yet. Almost there. The paper got to get right for me. I don't want nobody busting in on me. You know what I'm saying? We got to have certain lines because I'm ignorant. So I don't want to end my life with reality.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Right. You know what I mean? You won't beat somebody up on camera and get yourself in trouble. In all fairness, they do got to get clearances ahead of time, get you there. It's not like they can just come anywhere. What they do is they do like Jerry Springer used to do. They get you in a room and they tell you what looks good. They're like, look at this though.
Starting point is 00:17:02 They're selling you something that's not, you know, that's not really for sale. You're like, okay. Yeah, that do look good and I can't wait till American Sea's in. American Sea and they be like, look at this, though. They selling you something that's not, you know, that's not really for sale. You like, okay, yeah, that do look good, and I can't wait till American Sea's in America Sea, and they like, you know. Yeah. Now, there was a rumor that you had got your eyes done at the same place Tiny got his eyes done. I did, man. Any truth to that? It looks good.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Who started that rumor, man? It was on Media Takeout. I did, man. We used Tiny Pitch on Joking On. Really? No, we did not. Get on. Really? No, we did not. You're trying to get TF fired up. No, we did not. No, man. You know, them green eyes are a problem, too, sometimes, man.
Starting point is 00:17:34 They're a blessing when they're a blessing, but people be trying you. Really? Yeah, man. Because of your eyes? Yeah, man. They think you soft. Lights get light eyes. It's soft, man.
Starting point is 00:17:43 We got to always prove ourselves. So you're not soft? Not even a little bit. I can't be. I'm from Chicago. They think you soft. Light-skinned, light eyes. It's soft, man. We gotta always prove ourselves. So you're not soft? Not even a little bit. Be right from Chicago. I can't be. Let's be... I'm smart, though. I'm not gonna fight no eight dudes in a room but I'm gonna remember y'all faces and find y'all eventually. Smell the roses.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Smell the roses all day. So Joking Off comes on April 1st, MTV 2. Yep. At what time? 11. 11 o'clock. 11 o'clock, yep. And what else you got working on? Working on just finished another movie, man. Benny Boone directed a flick called Wild for the Night.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's crazy. Got me being crazy in that, too. No comedy. I'm in a killer cop type thing. Grow House. Grow House is coming out. Myself, Duval. I always got to ask people what I shot because I go to work, man.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Like, y'all go to work, you come in, they're like, who you got next week? You're like, look, this week ain't over yet. Or you finished last week. I'm like, I'm happy to promote the movies and the stuff, but I'm happy to be doing comedy, stand-up, touring. I'm going all over the place and getting that instant gratification. And I got about 20, 30 groupies
Starting point is 00:18:39 lined up. That's for sure. That's coming up in the cities I'm going to. What's the toughest city to perform places where people think they the business already I'll say New York is rough everybody here is important yeah a lot of a lot of people comedians stay away from New York New York is hard unless you people are visiting like we had a great time all-star weekend because people were visiting but New Yorkers and themselves like who is you like I could get up there and they can't but they don't care.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Everybody, you know, it's hard. People got business cards and no business in places like that. Miami, L.A. and certain areas. Yeah, places like that where people feel like they're more important than the entertainer. And all New York comedians think they the best, too. Yeah, all of them, for sure. Because they ripping New York. We go other places and then bomb.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Because you can't be talking about your city. You can't be talking about a certain block. And comedy is worldwide, man. You got to be funny no matter what. All right. You know? All right. Well, we appreciate you joining us. Yes, looking forward to joking off.
Starting point is 00:19:33 D-Ray Davis. The difference maker. Oh, yeah, man. My album coming out, too. I know we got, you know, Kendrick and Wiley, but my album is dropping. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to wait until everybody else's album come out. Then mine coming.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Gotcha. I feel you. I feel you. I feel you. You got that. On the title. For sure, man. But I don't even got a new one. My album ain't even got a cover, man.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Crazy with it, man. It's The Breakfast Club. It's D-Ray Davis. Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this.
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