The Breakfast Club - Diddy acquittal denied! He could be facing some hard time… + Kai Cenat is the new late night tv?

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Loren breaks down expectations for Diddy’s upcoming sentencing, and it’s not looking all that good for Sean Combs. And Kai Cenat continues to entertain with Mafiathon and is leaving us ask...ing the question… Is streaming the new late night TV?YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:42 Now, getting right on into the latest because our last episode, oh my God, okay, by the time that episode came out, things have already changed. Everything with news is moving so fast. I love the fact that we are daily. I love the fact that I try and keep you guys in as much real time. as I can because things move so fast. So our last episode, if you have not listened to the episode prior to this one, please
Starting point is 00:03:05 go back and take a listen because we talked a lot about what the road leading up to Diddy receiving an answer from the judge in his federal case about acquittal, like what that road has been, about acquittal or about a new trial. Last night, the judge submitted his answer and he denied Diddy's request. for an acquittal or for a new trial. Based on his response, the arguments that Diddy's team that they're making, which, you know, they talk about Diddy's constitutional rights being violated because of the way that, you know, prostitution and the criminalization of prostitution
Starting point is 00:03:47 is being approached in this case, and he says, you know, he doesn't buy into that. They also talk about the intent of what was the intent of the men who, the escorts who, flew in to these various places with Cassie and Diddy and with Jane Doe and Diddy. Diddy seem as always argued there was never an intent to have sex, but whatever happened there was a choice of the escorts and everything was consensual. And that's why it can't be considered, you know, under this man act. The judge also wasn't buying it there. But again, on the last episode, I talked to you guys and I told you, you know, the judge's
Starting point is 00:04:21 attitude and in his posturing with Diddy isn't unfair, in my opinion, as far as, and I don't mean, like, do I think Diddy should be in jail 20 years because of the Men Act? That's not what I'm referring to when I talk about fairness. What I'm talking about is the way that the judge has been evaluating both sides of information. You know, he is just as hard on the prosecutors to provide, you know, context and case law as he is on Diddy's team. That's what I mean by fairness. In my opinion, that I've noticed that, you know, he is very thorough on both sides. But he made his decision. And I, you know, I, you know, I, I believe, I believe. that we can take
Starting point is 00:04:59 a lot of thought from his decision on the acquittal. I believe that. I do believe that. And when I say that, I mean, I think that it kind of shows you where the court is when it comes to Diddy. I was going to say to Dittler. Wow. Where the court is when it comes to Diddy. And the only reason why I say that is because
Starting point is 00:05:21 you got to look at, you know, again, what this journey has been. It's been denial on him, on Diddy being able to come home and fight this case from home. It's been, and again, to the fairness, you know, a jury decided that the RICO wasn't a thing, which saved Diddy's life to a certain extent because, you know, those charges were way heavier, even though he still does face jail time. But now here we are talking about acquittal, and the judge is really not buying into a lot of the things that are, you know, being brought up by Diddy Seam as to why a new trial or
Starting point is 00:05:54 an acquittal should happen. And, you know, in the judge's letter, he starts off by talking about, you know, the only reason why someone asks for an acquittal is because of evidence. And the claim that evidence, or not the only reason, but in Diddy's case, the reason why an acquittal is being asked for is because Diddy says that the evidence was not substantial enough. And not only was it not substantial enough, but his constitutional rights are being violated. And when it comes to the whole conversation around evidence and it being substantial, the judge feels like the prosecution put on a very, substantial and fact-based, evidence-based case or proven, like things, evidence-based case that was proven to be fact. I'm a bit nervous, you know, for Diddy.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And, you know, I think you do the crime, you got to do the time. I get that. But I've always thought, you know, but Diddy been in jail for a little over a year with the sentencing guidelines and prosecutors. At one point, they were talking about, you know, like anywhere from four to five. five years per count. I don't know. I just, I thought that we were going to be looking at maybe about like five to six years,
Starting point is 00:07:05 anywhere from three to six. And Diddy would get that time served and, you know, all the things. But, and I think there's a lot of people who believe that Diddy is going to be able to get the time served and come home on like those supervision conditions that his team mentioned he'd be down for. I don't think that that's what's going to happen. And, you know, I can't predict, even though I'm doing it. I really can't because there's a lot more thought that the judge has to put into this.
Starting point is 00:07:31 We still, you know, there's going to be people testifying at the sentencing. I know the prosecutors put in a letter stating that Mia, who, you know, listed as a woman listed as Mia, a former assistant of Diddy's, she wants to testify at the sentencing hearing. There's just, you know, there's a lot of things that go into this. but I'm nervous because I think Diddy's going to be hit with some hard time. And the reason why I think that, again, it's just because of the bosturing of the court thus far. It does not feel like anyone in that courtroom from the jury now to the judge feels like Diddy is a rehabilitated man who could cope on his own outside of prison
Starting point is 00:08:11 and really get the help in the reform that he needs. And yeah, I just, I don't see it going easy on him. I don't. So that's going to be a really tough day. You know, we're two days away from the sentencing, and I will be in the sentencing. I also be doing NBC, New York, here in New York, from the courthouse after that as well, too.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So you guys could be able to catch me there on Friday. There'll be a lot to cover, but I didn't want to give you guys that update because we talked about this so much in our last episode. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down. Unlock Elite Gaming Tech. at Lenovo.com. Dominate every match with next level speed, seamless streaming, and performance that won't quit.
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Starting point is 00:12:09 Now, in other news, completely switching gears, Kai Sinai, you know, bringing up the energy a bit. Kaisa and I've been, And so I've been watching Kays and I streams more recently and just covering them here on the Breakfast Club. And I say here because I'm shooting from the breakfast club studio today. And then also, you know, making mention of it here on the latest with Lauren the Rose of the podcast. When I first discovered Kaysanai, it was in the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:12:37 A friend of mine was just like, yo, you ever watched this boy? His name is Kai. He streams. And at the time, the only person I knew that streamed, like I knew about going live on Instagram, YouTube, and all the things. But the only person I knew that did it a bit was academics
Starting point is 00:12:50 because you know I'm in the space of like I tune in the streams because I want to get like I want to see with like news like what are people
Starting point is 00:12:57 saying about news Kai is so different he doesn't care about none of that stuff he's just there having a good time vibing with the chat it's like one big
Starting point is 00:13:05 sleepover right but yeah so it was a pandemic and he was doing you know the 24 hour streams and I just I thought the idea of it
Starting point is 00:13:13 was insane I was like I got to watch this and I remember the first couple times I watched him. I'm like, I didn't really understand it. But I was like, if you can make money doing this, the way that the world is going to change even more. Because the pandemic was already changing for creators. Like, I think that that was a time for creators everywhere in the industry to really give it their best shot. And if it stuck, people build businesses and whole careers
Starting point is 00:13:40 and lives off of the pandemic. Kaisa not being one of them. And he talks about that in his story with like, you know, school being shut down because of the pandemic and streaming and all the stuff. But I just remember being like, yo, if you can make money on the internet without having to do all of the like, I need to say this to go viral, I need to do this, like the gimmicky stuff
Starting point is 00:14:00 because there was no gimmick. I'm like, yo, when I'm watching it when my friend who first told me about Kai, I'm like, what's the gist? Like, what am I watching? And my friend literally was like, nah, they just put like him and his homies stay in his big crib in L.A.
Starting point is 00:14:16 24 hours. see them do everything and they do pranks on each other. It's just one big sleepover, like one big hangout. And I'm like, that's it. And I couldn't fathom. It's not that I didn't understand what Kai was doing. I think it was I couldn't fathom someone being able to get that much success and not have a gimmick. Like, I think even when you watch, you know, an academics, not even a gimmick, but controversy.
Starting point is 00:14:40 There's certain controversy to a lot of people who do things on the internet and as to makes the numbers go. kai is such good clean fun but i was watching and been watching the last like few days of the mafayathon and the sleepover that he did with kevin hart andrewski and you know they announced that they have this movie coming um the you know this horror like comedyish movie coming and the stream it's called the stream from hell and i was just thinking about how much they've been able to do from there and then i saw this article it's like a breakdown it's kind of like a thread that complex did and it talked about streaming taking over a late night TV.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Now, it's always been a goal of mine to have a late night talk show. The late night talk show space to me, like, has always been interesting because I feel like it's upper brow and people respect it. You know, the guests are always good. The production is good. It's something to aspire to. Like, you don't just get a late night space, you know? But it's fun.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Like, because you're late night, you can be a bit more controversial. You can be funny. You can be a little bit more free. Daytime TV is so buttoned up. And, you know, like, once you hit primetime, it eases up, and it's more entertaining. And then late night, it's just like, look, it's all in. Even though you still have rules and regulations because of FCC, but, like, y'all get what I'm saying. You can have a lot more fun.
Starting point is 00:15:58 There's a lot more freedom. Complex did this article about how streaming is taking over late night TV, and I started thinking about it. And I'm like, when I was watching Kai Sinai, Drewski, and Kevin Hart's sleepover, it was late-night TV hours. I fell asleep watching them. And there were so many people tuned in. doing the same thing and everybody was gathered the whole world is watching
Starting point is 00:16:19 because now not only do you have one of the biggest streamers in the world costs and that but you have Drewski who is you know demolished the internet space but Kevin Hart who brings that
Starting point is 00:16:30 cloth of like real celebrity you know what I mean so if you would tune into a Fallon or Kim would watch Kevin Hart you would tune in to a stream and a lot of my friends would be honest with you guys
Starting point is 00:16:41 I was texting I'm like hey are y'all watching the stream they didn't know how to get to it Some of them because they don't have Twitch. But there were people at night that downloaded it just because they wanted to see Kevin Hart with Druski and Kisanat, right? Even if they're not active Twitch users. So in this article, they talk about how, you know, as the late night TV, like, timeslide continues to slip with a certain demographic, the 18 to 49 demographic, which is a big demographic talking point. I know, you know, in radio you focus a lot on that demographic as well. complex is basically saying
Starting point is 00:17:14 Kai Sinai has it figured out he could be the not even could be he already is but it's like people need to pay attention to it he is the go-to for late night TV or a rendition of it so they talk about the fact that when Kai
Starting point is 00:17:28 Drusky and Kevin Hart did their last stream that was some time ago that was back when they had the whole Adams family set up and Drusky called the kid fat and that was so viral it was like a whole thing and then the kid the mom tried to sue and like all that stuff they talk about how that broke so many records but then the recent stream that they did the one of something you guys that i watched on september 29th it did so many
Starting point is 00:17:53 crazy numbers and the numbers aren't even fully like calculated yet um they say again drew thousands of viewers eager for more hygiene memorable moments and potentially record breaking feats the surge and popularity is not new for the trio for example their late night stream on june 10th 24. That's the stream. I was talking to you guys about broke the North American Twitch viewership record reaching a peak of 712,000, over 712,000 views concurrently. Over the 11.5 hour sleepover stream, the event attracted 4.95 million unique viewers. So then they start talking about how like, you know, people in that 18 to 49 space, we're looking for something to watch at night on TV, whether it's something that informs you, something.
Starting point is 00:18:41 that's entertaining, but if it's all of them, you tuning in. And Kaisana is on the rise or he is, I mean, he's creaming the crap at this point. And he's, he heavily excels in that space. Now, they talk about how, you know, in this 18 to 49 demographic, that's the advertising range where when you talk about traditional TV, a lot of people in that age range are leaving from watching traditional TV. And we're heading on over to media. And I think if I'm being honest with you guys,
Starting point is 00:19:12 it's like, think about when you're in your bed on your phone at night, right? If there's nothing on TV, like, in order for something, me to watch something like I'm falling asleep to, it has to really, really bring me in. Like, I don't remember the last time I was, like, eager to get to bed to watch something.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And I was, I was so excited to tune in to Kaysana. I was so mad that the sleepover took so long to start. It took forever. Like, Kai did a whole thing at his house before he went there. I was so mad because I'm like, yo, I'm going to fall asleep. But yeah, so. We are.
Starting point is 00:19:41 We're seeking something to look at. So Complex goes on. A 2025 Pew Research Study conducted in August showed that a proportion of the stated age range is turning to social media platforms for news and entertainment. It is less likely to consistently tune in the television and print media.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And it's just because if I'm being honest with you, there's no edge there. And I know that TV has like rules and regulations, which is why I say I always felt like if I ended up with a TV show, I always was like, oh my God, I would love for it to be late night TV. But I think right now there's nothing late night that would bring us in because where are we going?
Starting point is 00:20:17 And it made me think about Kimmel, right? And they talk about Kimmel. They say outside of that whole situation with Donald Trump, Kimmel is a show that is, you know, it's Jimmy Kimmel. But at the same time, the late night talk show space has been losing viewership consistently since 2015, according to this Pew study that, complex, exciting. And outside of that Donald Trump moment, there haven't been huge spikes in late night talk show TV. Not nothing like what you see when you have a Kai Sinat, a Kevin Hart, and a Drusky together late night on a stream. And they talk about a lot of the late night shows. So Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon. And granted, Stephen Colbert's show was top rated. That's why
Starting point is 00:21:02 when it went off air, people were like, what is happening? Like, obviously something was going, or when it was announced that they would be going off air after, you know, they finished their season. And people are like, what is going on? But it's the space in general. It's just not hitting like it used to. But Kai is giving, you know, what this could potentially look like. He's giving it a run for his money. And I just thought that this article via complex was really interesting
Starting point is 00:21:27 because when you think about like where media is today, like I'm on the radio. We're also on social reporting about streaming. So people listening in their car are getting to hear about internet streaming. And it's because Kai Senai has amassed a crazy amount of viewership, but even more so, it's because it marries with what radio wants to hear, which is, you know, you want to learn something. You want to feel motivated. He does the motivational speeches.
Starting point is 00:21:58 But also, too, if you tune in into a breakfast club, you want the celebrity stuff. Kai has been hosting some of the biggest celebrities in the world. LeBron James pulled up to the stream to cut Kaisana's hair on the last day of the stream. We do have LeBron James' motivational speech that we're going to end this segment with but pulled up, cut his hair and I mean, it was just so
Starting point is 00:22:19 happy to be there. Alicia Keys before that Mariah Carey. He's had such big names and of course you do Kevin Hart, Drewski on stream for the sleepover. Like, this is really the evolution of a lot, but complex
Starting point is 00:22:35 news is calling this the evolution of late night TV. I want to know what y'all think. Do you guys see late night TV evolving into streaming? You take a variety show. And I know Nick Cannon has a Nick at night where he's doing a late night TV show as well and he's doing it. It is on some streaming platforms, but I know that you can also watch it other places as well too. But is this the next step in late night TV? Can you see the two married? What Kai Sinai does with a late night TV show format like a Kimmel or a because Kai does do a little interview here and there. I know when Tiana Taylor was on there,
Starting point is 00:23:08 he got into some things about Aaron Pierre. So can you see the two married? Not Tiana Taylor and Guy's not. I'm talking about the format of streaming and streamers and what Kai Sinat does and what late night TV is missing. And if so, where are we watching it? Is it Twitch?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Like, is Twitch taking over? Because how do you marry that thing? The NBC's, are they broadcasting? What Twitch would be broadcasting? How does all that work? I've also noticed some newsrooms beginning the stream as well. I saw TMZ doing it. You know, it's a thing.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And I've said, I think it would be cool to get into the space but figuring out how and what makes sense is the right thing. But there's a shift. Let me know what you guys think. Get out there in the streets and the tweets. We outside. We outside. Outside in the tweets.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Every other page I go. Let's talk about it. I'm Lauren La Rosa. This is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. Now, before we get on out of here, some motivation from the goat himself. LeBron James. This is him from Kastana's Mafiathon. Three, ending out Kai, 30 days of streaming 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:24:09 If you're somebody growing up, without a mom, without a dad, without siblings, without a passion, without a goal, without life in general, bro, it's not over for you. The man above never gives us more than we can handle as individuals, no matter if you're a female, you're a male, don't matter who you are in life. Everyone has a purpose. you just have to find that purpose and then tap into that purpose you're going to need somebody none of us can do it by ourselves and this is a true testament
Starting point is 00:24:41 in the last 30 days that we've seen someone not be able to do it by himself lock in believe in what you believe in nobody else matter you have to hold yourself accountable you have to hold yourself to your truth
Starting point is 00:24:55 you have to hold yourself to your beliefs and always believe in the power of the man above because nobody in the history of life been able to do it by themselves. Nobody. Don't worry about the haters. They ain't shit.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Don't worry about the naysayers because they ain't shit. Whenever you feel in the way about yourself, you look in the mirror and you say, you are the only thing that matter. There's a good quote by Theodore Roosevelt that I always believe in and I always look at. It's called The Man in Arena. And the basis of the quote is about
Starting point is 00:25:31 All the doubters and the naysayers can say everything that they want to say but they have never stepped inside the arena so they don't even know what it feels like to have blood, sweating tears. So how can they tell you what the hell to do if they've never done it? Right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:47 At the end of the day, be true, be loyal, be perseverant. Just love yourself, man. King James signing off. Oh! You guys can be anywhere with anybody talking about all these things, but you guys prove every single time you show up
Starting point is 00:26:03 that you'd rather be right here with me. I appreciate you guys for, you know, always showing up. And if you want to check out that article, again, it is a breakdown that Complex Pop, which is Complex's Pop Culture arm did. Go take a look at this. Pretty interesting. I'll see you guys in my next episode.
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Starting point is 00:27:01 Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then if we got good news for you, stuff you should know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know true crime playlist on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:31 The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season, add free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast. Recently, I had a conversation with the one and only Madonna. When I was broke and I had no friends, nowhere to live, I was held up at gunpoint, I was robbed. All these horrendous things happened to me. I had such an unhappy childhood that whatever happened to me in New York, It's better than what my life was, so I'm not going back. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:28:42 This is an IHeart podcast.

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