The Breakfast Club - Diddy Talks New Album, Giving Artists Back Their Publishing, Feeling Let Down By The Culture + More

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

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Starting point is 00:02:53 His album is out today, the love album off the grid. Yes, yes, yes. Ladies and gentlemen, Diddy. What's up? Pump Daddy. Sean John. Diddy. Okay, love is here.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Sean John. I got a bunch of names. But love is here. Good morning. What's up, brother? How you feeling? I'm feeling beautiful. Feeling like extremely blessed, especially today.
Starting point is 00:03:12 The album's coming out. Being able to just make music, man, for 30 years. 30 years in. 30 years of bad morning. So it's like, I feel just very blessed and filled with the spirit. So good morning to all. God bless your morning. Well, congratulations again.
Starting point is 00:03:29 How does that feel? 30 years of Bad Boy, 10 years of Revolt, 50 years of hip hop. How does that feel to Sean Combs, somebody who's been so instrumental in the culture? Oh, man, it's humbling. And it's really like surreal in a sense, you know what I'm saying? To really be, because i remember doing interviews with you guys just like even you know just from the beginning and and and just just how i've grown
Starting point is 00:03:53 up in in the industry it's like really surreal just knowing that i started out as a kid from harlem and just you know made it all the way to this point and have been able to have a positive impact and been able to really witness it and be a part of the culture and just loving to be putting out music at this point from the love of it you know what i'm saying and it's dope man it's really really dope the one thing i don't like because you know they say 30 years a a bad boy especially when i hear this album you got to put the uptown in there too so what uptown how long is it for you yeah it'd probably be that would have probably been maybe 40. no not 40 like um 34 years 34 34 years yeah yeah so it's a blessing to be able to do anything that you love to do you know what i'm
Starting point is 00:04:37 saying and to now be doing it i feel like i'm even better you know what i'm saying i feel like i'm even better i was talking lebrron one day at the Drake concert, and I was like, you're getting stronger. You're getting better, aren't you? He's like, yeah, I'm getting better. Like, you really can get better. I think we have this misconception about longevity, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:04:53 when longevity is one of the greatest blessings in the world. So I'm living out my dream, you know what I'm saying, beyond, you know, beyond even what I could have even imagined because I don't know a lot of cats that have, you know, could say 34 years of doing something they love and now still getting stronger as far as, like, their splat that they put out in the atmosphere. Does it surprise you when you see, like, see kids?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Like, the other day I'm watching you at the VMAs, right? And you're going through hits that you have that I know because I grew up on, but my son doesn't know Diddy for those hits. So he's like, oh, I didn't know. Oh, that's, oh, because they hear the old samples. Did that ever surprise you that a lot of these kids don't know you for music? They know you for other things, your business, whether it's the liquor, or they might have seen you on TikTok with Khaled,
Starting point is 00:05:39 or they see you from something else. Did that ever say, damn, that's strange because of such a hold that you had on music for so long? No, I think that, you know of such a hold that you had on music for so long? No, I think that, you know, I'm going in other areas and I also went away from music for a while,
Starting point is 00:05:52 but I've gone in other areas and have success. Life has taken a different journey. So they know me for different things, you know? And, but, but to see, you know, music,
Starting point is 00:06:02 you know, my music having a renaissance in the sense of everybody sampling it, everybody on the wave and being able to be an artist that that's multi-generational as far as impact and being able to really rock a crowd multi-generationally. And, and when you talk about relevancy, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Um, yeah, they know me for different things, but to now be able to introduce them to my music part is also a beautiful thing. Cause they know me as being an entrepreneur. They know me going into an industry, taking this over. They know me for something that, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:30 if they really want to take some positivity out of it, they'll be able to take something out of it. But now when they see me and I'm doing my musical bag, then they see, oh, that's that superhero. That's something different. That's, you know, that's one thing I love about it, you know, love about them. And so I think it's really dope to really when I get introduced to like a younger generation without trying to actually play to a younger generation
Starting point is 00:06:53 just by being me you know saying yeah I fuck with them thank you very very very very proper I was telling them that before they walked in I don't know if I should tell them that no no no I appreciate that you know everyone an announcement though cuz he saw me like you know each other I'm not gonna be honest I'm exposed if know each other. I'm not going to be honest. I'm an exposer. If I'm in trouble, I'm calling him for strategic advice, and we talk at a whole other level. So when I come in, I'm like, yo, damn, you really got your game face on.
Starting point is 00:07:36 It's feeling like Magic and Isaiah or whoever was cool. It's like, yo, bro, nah, we're not going there. He's like, nah, nope, nope. And then he was like, I like that album. And I was like, you know what I'm saying? But I'm telling y'all, it is all right to love. Absolutely. It is all right.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I know there's been different stories and the mythology has grown all over the world. But, you know what I'm saying? I'm love, man. And that's it. What made you jump back into music? With everything, you know, amazing from Revolt to the liquor to everything. What says, I want to get back on the road, back to touring, back to making music and see it's a different time. Now it's, you know, it's streaming.
Starting point is 00:08:21 It's things outside of people actually going to the store and buying it. You know, it's playlists. It's things that we can't control what you could control before what put you back into that mind frame um the thing that got me into it which was the love when i when i started making music i didn't make music okay like this is a hustle to make money i did i did what i felt you know and i i did like just what i loved I say to people now, it's not about streams for me. I don't want streams. I want souls. I want to give you that feeling that's missing.
Starting point is 00:08:51 There is a feeling missing. We are in a dark frequency. I'm blessed to be able to purposely try to push my life up into a higher frequency. I could walk in a room and let us all be down, or I could push us up, you know what I'm saying? Or whatever it is. Or if you want to frown at me, I could give you a smile and a hug, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:11 And so it's like, you know, to be able to have the power that's your music. All of my records kind of make you feel good. People say like when I see your records, it makes me want to do the dance with my shoulders. But it makes you smile, too. You know what I'm saying? And that right there was the purpose. And so for me, returning back to music was more a self-love decision. You get it to a point in your life where you have to decide, like, okay, what do I want to do that makes me happy?
Starting point is 00:09:49 And what really makes me happy is my art, making music. So I didn't get back, you know, even though I'm, you know what I'm saying, I'm returning to music after a long time. I didn't come back, just like I didn't come into music following the rules, I don't follow the rules that's out here set for me now. And I don't have those rules affect my intention. So my intention with this album ain't to get hot, not to be, you know, it is to be the best. I'm not going to lie to you. It is to be, I'm putting out the best music that I can.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It's one of my best bodies of work as far as like R&B. And I wanted to put out that R&B that you could dance to. I didn't care if there wasn't R&B you couldn't dance to. I wanted to do what I do when I like to celebrate. I like to turn up a little bit, but sometimes it just like, it get a little toxic for my frequency, you know what I'm saying? Not enough in it. So I was like, you don't complain about nothing you go.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And if you have the power to make music that makes people feel good, that's what I went and did. Did make some R&B that you could dance to, R&B that you could smash to, you know what I'm saying, R&B that you could ride in the car with your girl and sing to, you know what I'm saying? And that's what I like to do. I like being with my shorty and, you know, going off the grid, turning off the phone and doing what we do for 48 hours
Starting point is 00:11:01 and wanting to have some music that goes into that frequency you know and so man it was it was a beautiful thing i wanted to make music i wanted to work with new artists again i wanted to be able to just just really do what i loved because if i got into the way the the the game is set up now it's just set up it's mostly a hustle it's a hustle i'm not knocking nobody's hustle but it's not a hustle to me's a hustle. I'm not knocking nobody's hustle. This is not a hustle to me. This is an art form. This is a love.
Starting point is 00:11:30 This is a God superpower. You know what I'm saying? And so, you know, I'm just out here doing what I do. And, you know, I've gotten better because of life experiences and actually fighting through the frequency of darkness and the gram and the this and the that and, you know, the alcohol and the chicks and all that shit, and it came out on the other side on a love frequency with a love era.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Like, yo, I'm just going to lift it up. You do that through your art. You do that through that God gift that he got you, not just making money. But making money is good, too. So stepping away from music for 17 years, you haven't dropped... It was 13, I think.
Starting point is 00:12:09 13? I thought Press Play was 13. Dirty Money was 13. Dirty Money, yeah, yeah. Press Play was 13. Last Train to Paris. Okay, yeah, even stepping away from it for that long, it didn't make you nervous going back into it?
Starting point is 00:12:20 I mean, with you being Diddy as only one Diddy, but you were still, and you're still very much present and everything else that you have to stepping away from it that long yeah were you even nervous a little bit we got all these new artists and all that stuff yeah i'm not gonna lie i don't really get nervous i live in a real fearless zone you know what i'm saying um stepping back into it um i i i i'm real confident on like me being a producer i don't make beats you know what i'm saying like i i actually make beats. You know what I'm saying? I actually produce. You know what I'm saying? But the crazy part about it is I don't play any instruments.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I don't program. But the sounds that I hear in my head, I know how to really explain what's the frequency that I want. So me getting back into it, I really felt like, you know, I mean, I felt like Jordan getting back into basketball as far as making R&B, as far as like making hip hop soul and the all the different, you know, the sounds that I have. So when I came back into it, I came back into it really, really excited because I knew I was ready to step back into what they call a full circle. So I went back into like Puffy the producer, just like the first time you may have had two turntables or the first time you learned your first dance
Starting point is 00:13:32 or whatever you told your first joke, you know what I'm saying? It returned me back to that, like ah. And so my first record I produced was Come and Talk to Me by Jodeci, the remix. And so when I started making these records it was feeling like that i had to return like back to the basement the basement producing it was just me and there and just man it's just been a beautiful experience man to be able to return back to your love and
Starting point is 00:13:57 not let the business and the money and the fame get you caught up. Because in this industry, you only got like a 0.001% chance of success to be able to be really longevity and keep your marbles and your heart and your soul together. And so when I was back in there, nah, I was like, nah, this feels good. I thank God that I'm able to come and, you know, make some music today. Like I give thanks and pray every time I go in the studio like, oh, my God, this is a dream come true. Because it is, though the record closer to god with tiana taylor but go deep on that with the producer thing because everybody has always talked about that for years
Starting point is 00:14:32 when it came to you like yeah like did you don't actually make beats uh yeah you know what did he actually do in the studio but we know it's a sound we know it's a bad boy it was an uptown sound so what do you do when you're going in like just say, I want it to sound like this? No, no, no, no, no. I'm an orchestrator, so I hear all sounds. I hear all sounds from the vocal, how the vocals should be presented. It's like being a director of a movie.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You know what I'm saying? I may not be in there actually doing the scene, but I'm directing the movie and I have a special talent as far as directing sonics and the way something is. It's almost like even Quincy Jones. Quincy Jones is more of an orchestrator. All of the live musicians and everything he did, like directing sonics and the way something is it's almost like even quincy jones quincy jones is more of an orchestrator all of the live musicians and everything he did he didn't go and play every instrument that was the drum machine at that point barry gordy was an orchestrator so i
Starting point is 00:15:14 come from more of a producer um experience like that so when i'm in there with a mary j blige i'm in there with a week and i have something to say. I'm not just watching them do their thing. I'm not sending it over. I'm in the studio actually creating and molding and shaping the sonic sound. So for an example, like, so if I hear, like, closer to God when I'm with you, and I want more intensity,
Starting point is 00:15:39 and I want you to yell, like, closer to God when I'm with you. You know what I'm saying? It's that just regular communication. It's not a, it's not a, it's something that's not complicated. It's just me communicating from my heart and like knowing where to go. And so if there's chords and it's da-na-na-na-na-na-na, I'ma hear da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Orchestrating and overseeing. Yeah, so it's me also writing the music that's the music that's in my head and translating it to like you know a Mario Winans or a Stevie J and so my thing has always been collaboration but my sound no matter what producers I work with
Starting point is 00:16:18 my sound sounds like my sound when you hear it it sounds exactly like my sound but I've just been a little bit more open about no one man can do everything every last producer has had a team you know motown had the funk brothers i've had the hitmen and so a lot of times people don't you know don't believe that i could actually be good at this many things like i gotta gotta, I have to be fronting or doing this
Starting point is 00:16:46 or doing that. And so that's why I have the receipts. I've been filming myself since I was 19 years old. You see me in the studio producing with people and you know,
Starting point is 00:16:56 I don't have nothing to prove to anybody that says anything. But the feeling that I've given you for over 30 years, giving your mama this feeling
Starting point is 00:17:04 and I've given it to you and years. I've given your mama this feeling, and I've given it to you, and it feels good. Take that. He's unpauseable. He's unpauseable. He's unpauseable. I'm just telling you. You about to drink something?
Starting point is 00:17:16 You about to drink something? You drinking something? I was going to ask, how much influence does your son have on you? And the reason I asked that, I seen him at the BET Awards awards and i was asking him about is it a competition at first he said no and then he said no no this is a competition i want to make records better than my dad and my dad trying to make records better than me so i said well how
Starting point is 00:17:33 does that work with picking beats and he was like i have to grab the beats before my dad so is it a competition and how much influence does your son have on you making records now? I don't really let anybody influence me on making records. I'm definitely not in a competition with my son. I'm more, if anything, in a competition with myself. I've never been in a competition with anybody else. But it's a blessing to actually be the first father-son duo. We take pride in that. Don't act like JoJo ain't used to rap.
Starting point is 00:18:16 The first to have a number one record. There you go. That's how you clear it up. The first, and there's no disrespect to nobody. We're just saying respectfully. We're saying respectfully to all the other father-son teams that me and my son, we won the championship. We had number one records together, and that's all.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It's just proud dad shit. It's not saying nothing. It's just when we have the narrative, sometimes y'all be forgetting about the Diddy history. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes we forget who invented certain things. Now, I'm not going to be defensive. I'm just going to state
Starting point is 00:18:50 facts. Okay. P and Romeo, too. Gotta throw them out there. The first to have a number one together. That's right. Together. Together. It's very hard to have a kid and have that kid have success. That kid has to fight through so much stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And those kids had to fight through a lot of different things. They got to fight through their father's legacy. We're not talking about the first. We're talking about the father-son team to play together, you know what I'm saying, and win a championship. And that's me and King Combs. I take a lot of pride in that and then speaking of King Combs would you ever give the blessing for him to do your biopic
Starting point is 00:19:29 because I that's that's a biopic I would want to be in for one but I would want to see that yeah I mean I mean he's you like literally he he's me I know that he'd be able to do it you know I'm saying I definitely give him give give him my blessing because I that he'd be able to do it. You know what I'm saying? I'd definitely give him my blessing because, I mean, he'd be biopicking me now. I'm looking at him. I'm on stage the other night. And you got to understand how, like, much of a blessing this is, y'all. Like, I know y'all as, you know, on-air personalities. But I'm just telling y'all, like, as human beings to be able to.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Because I see how you love your kids. You know what I'm just telling y'all like as human beings to be able to see how you love your kids. You know what I'm saying? I know everybody loves their family, but to be on stage with them and be looking at them from what he wanted to be at four years old and really like doing stuff. And then the other night with my girls, like this is like, you know, it's like that's everything. We can talk about a whole bunch of things, but that right there is just everything to me. So it's a blessing to see him keep fighting every day. Because as a Combs, we got to fight through a lot of hate. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:20:33 We can handle it. It's the wave. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whom is given much is expected, and we respect that. But it's all right for y'all to start loving me. And you still got your M. It's about time. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Oh, my God. My teeth, yes, yes. My teeth, everything is, you know what I'm saying? Everything is fresh. I swear I'm strong, I'm like, I don't know, it's beyond Benjamin Button. We like at IP Man or something. Why didn't you have any former bad boy artists
Starting point is 00:21:00 perform on stage with you at the VMAs for such an iconic moment for you? It was more like I wanted to, I did the medley so much with everybody. We had so many different iconic moments and that was me as an artist. You know a lot of people forget how many number one records I have as an artist and so you know it was just really like i wanted to give people something different i didn't give them keisha cole really i wanted to give them the present me and young and then um you know i had wanted um me and mace to do something but the schedule that didn't that didn't like work out and it was just like uh that's that's all that was i just wanted to have like something that was different so i thought me
Starting point is 00:21:50 and mace would have been different you know i'm saying so every time i come out i'm trying to give y'all something like different in an award show performance because to be honest i i i do a lot of award shows so i try to keep y'all on everybody on their toes so in the beginning i did you know something from the new record and i just went through more 30 years you know i'm saying and then you know um so but the way god wanted to work out me doing more money with my son was the greatest gift to that i could have ever ever experienced you know i'm saying and um you know um but i'm always going to be performing with the bad boy artists, you know what I'm saying? And doing things with them as I always have, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:29 And they're always a phone call away. Like, I could have had Nas on there. I could have had different people, Busta, whatever. And I was just like, yo, I really want people to feel this Keisha Cole record. That's one of my favorite records of all time, by the way. Yeah. And also, I just wanted people also to understand
Starting point is 00:22:49 that I got a good 45-minute straight of bangers just by myself on stage. Jermaine Dupri, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, nobody should be afraid
Starting point is 00:23:02 because it's all love, but you know what I'm saying? It's a lot of hits, you know what I'm saying? So I did want to say that because I'm about to jump out here on tour and stuff like that. And you can come see me and have a great time if I'm just by myself too. You can see me if I'm with the Bad Boy family. You can see me with other people, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:19 But I wanted to also, as a performer, I was like, I think it's time that I stand on my own two feet, you know, also as a performer, I was like, I think it's time that I like stand on my own two feet. You know what I'm saying? And so that's why I did that move. But we will be having, you know, out there with all the bad boy artists and everything. You mentioned all the artists. You mentioned Mase. And recently you said that you were giving the artists back their publishing.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah. What made you decide to do that? And what was the artists? Did you speak to every artist when you did it? Or how did that happen? How did that work? Break that down. Yeah. What made you decide to do that? And what was the artist? Did you speak to every artist when you did it or how did that happen? How did that work? Break that down. Yeah. When I when I had went and called out the Grammys, I also, you know, had to make sure that I had also look from within. Once you start like asking for change in this world, you have to look within and be a part of that change. So this actually was done two years ago. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:11 It was actually done two years ago, and it was more of me just evolving as a businessman, a person that really wants change in the world, and in progress, most importantly, because you can have change but not progress and um you know um it was the right thing to do yeah you know i'm saying it was that it was the right thing to do and it's it was it's the the frequency that i'm in and it's the love frequency. If it wasn't for like these people that, you know, have helped me with all of these records, everybody, if there's anything, you know what I'm saying, like that, that, you know, just doing the right thing,
Starting point is 00:24:54 that's just the frequency that I'm in. I think the frequency we should all be in is not being afraid to look inward and to make decisions like that. So I want reform in all industries. I want reform in corporate America. If I got to ask corporate America to look inward and to make decisions like that. So I want reform in all industries. I want reform in corporate America. If I got to ask corporate America to look at something and change their ways in the world, then it's just like I have to be responsible and accountable for that for myself.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And so that was done two years ago. So it's not like. Two years ago you gave him the post. Yeah, two years ago I had it signed, and then the lawyers had to work everything out because it's not an easy thing. It's called reassigned. It's not, you know, I didn't give nobody anything.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's just reassigning because of the contract. The contracts and everything is up to par. You don't have to. Business is business. You don't have to change the contract. You don't have to make changes in the world. But if you have a chance to do the right thing, why wouldn't you do the right thing?
Starting point is 00:25:50 You know what I'm saying? And that's a world that I want to live in. And so, you know what I'm saying? I want to be that change that I want. What do you say to the people who say they feel like the publishing has no value now and you've already made all your money off it, so now you want to give it back because it's not really really worth anything yeah i mean that's that's just not the truth whatever your value your publishing is that's the value of your you know of your publishing and um
Starting point is 00:26:14 it's really not it's really about just me evolving and wanting to do you know i'm saying what i feel is like the right thing that we should all do. We should all look at where we're at in the world today. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? I can't go on. Like, I'm not doing things for people. I'm doing things that God has in my, that God tells me to do.
Starting point is 00:26:40 So I don't, like, what somebody's going to say or how somebody's going to take something. Papa ain't even knowing that. You know, I'm not for everybody. Jesus wasn't for everybody. Not comparing myself to Jesus, but somebody that I look up to as far as the story. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's all right.
Starting point is 00:26:57 You know what I'm saying? Did giving back to publishing fix any damaged relationships that you might have had? I wasn't. There's so many misconceptions that people think they know what's going on. I didn't have no problems with people. Mace. I think it may be Mace. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Major with me and Mace. And me and Mace, we brothers. And I got unconditional love for Mace. So me and Mace, I don't know if me and Mace have stopped arguing now or something like that, but I still love Mase. I give him thanks for like really, really helping to really launch my career as an artist and, you know, was there with me from the beginning and stuff like that. But when you're in a when you're like in a group with somebody, you're tied together for life. You'll have your brotherly ups and downs. But I always love Mace, always give thanks to Mace.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And, yeah, me and Mace, we also got, you know, spoke and was just like, you know, had a real conversation. Because I think even though if I didn't agree with Mace, he was a catalyst for me to look from within. You know what I'm saying? And so sometimes somebody that you may not agree with or something you don't think is good God uses like certain situations even if something's like yo where did that come from that's from left field you know what I'm saying and so
Starting point is 00:28:14 yeah man I don't I just get into right now what God telling me to do so there's a clarity there's not a like okay I'm gonna do this and I'm worried about what you gonna think of Charlemagne what they gonna say on here or there you know what I'm saying I'm going to do this, and I'm worried about what you're going to think of Charlemagne, what they're going to say on here or there. You know what I'm saying? I'm just moving in God's purpose.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So it's really at a point, you get to a point in your life, especially me as a successful businessman, where you pick purpose over profit. And that's kind of the season that I'm in, to really, really be a part of this radical change. You know what I'm saying? You gave Mase more credit for launching your solo career than Big? Because I thought Big was the person that pushed you to really want to miss the Lord. No, Big pushed me, but Mase gave me the words.
Starting point is 00:28:50 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mase, you know what I'm saying, was like, you know, was like. To be right and craft the music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, we was like a group. You know what I'm saying? You ain't want to see no Puff without Mase, or Mase without Puff. When you saw him, you saw me, me, I mean, you know, we was like a group. You know what I'm saying? You ain't want to see no Puff without Mase or Mase without Puff.
Starting point is 00:29:07 When you saw him, you saw me, me, him. And so, yeah, no, definitely as an artist, you know what I'm saying? I would say Mase and definitely, you know, Jadakiss as far and Sauce Money. You know what I'm saying? I mean, a bunch of people I have to credit with. But as far as me breaking through like like, that I could be an artist, and I was an artist, Big had told me that,
Starting point is 00:29:27 but as far as, like, you know, if I had to say one person, I would have to say, you know what I'm saying, Mase. What did Big ever write for you, if anything? Victory. Victory, okay. And the Get Money remix,
Starting point is 00:29:39 which I was like, I was like, man, I ain't ready for that. And so those are, C's did that. C's wanted to do that. I was about to say, I don't remember you on the Get Money remix. Yeah, I was about to say, yeah, yeah. Oh ready for that. And so those are, C's did that. C's won and did that. I was about to say, I don't remember you on the get ready. Yeah, I was about to say, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Oh, so that was supposed to be your verse? How you figure that, my team? Yeah, I fronted and I didn't do it. I was like, no, I ain't ready for that. Wow. Yeah. Now the victory's all on Dope. And then, but when I heard that Benjamins
Starting point is 00:29:59 and then Mase wrote that can, nobody hold me down, I was like, yeah, now I'm ready, you know what I'm saying? I like this Diddy. Dude, we should have a drink drink did you really turn down a nine-figure deal for the publisher um yeah it was it was it i wouldn't say turned it down as i said you know what i'm saying it it it wasn't it really wasn't an option you know what i'm saying as far as because it was just at the time that i was getting it i was just i I wasn't really even wanting to sell nothing. But I was just like, man, these people are getting a lot of money out here.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And I was like, if any time this is the time that you know what I'm saying, that because people were offering so much money for catalogs, it was just a time where I just went and was like
Starting point is 00:30:45 you shopped a little bit or nah nah it wasn't shopped it was people were calling us and um so
Starting point is 00:30:51 bring some cups y'all so it was something that you know what I'm saying something that you definitely consider and then it was just the chain of events I'm always scared of that
Starting point is 00:31:00 you know what I'm saying the chain of events chain of events chain of events just had me um really was just like man i need to just you know call all the artists they need and all the writers i'm saying this this is
Starting point is 00:31:10 a this is the time yeah you know what i'm saying to not just andre harrell was telling me don't just talk love be love and so he's like this is a time just to to do and listen to what god is telling you to do and that's it so now we we're cracking open the champagne. We need to talk about the album. We need to talk about the album. We got the album. We gonna play records all morning. Yeah, we drinking champagne in the morning. It's a celebration.
Starting point is 00:31:34 We playing records all morning long. You know what today is? Today is Diddy Day. Diddy Day. Today is Diddy Day, self-proclaimed Diddy. Diddy Day 101 episode. That's. Diddy Day 101th episode. That's right. You just brought up Andre,
Starting point is 00:31:48 and this album has so much of the bad boy, uptown record sound. So it made me wonder, did you miss Andre's mentorship in the creating of this album? Not at all. Because the crazy thing about it is, even though the physical's not there,
Starting point is 00:32:04 it's like the spirit is is there you know his physical and also i mean his him being there thank you just for advice as um as like a father figure is missed so much you know i'm saying and and you know sometimes i definitely feel lost without him and kim being there, the two people that I would go to for advice that would keep me totally straight. But as far as musically, I was able to keep him in my head as far as what to do. And also I dedicated this album to Chucky Thompson, one of the greatest R&B producers ever. So Andre definitely came along to ride with me on making this and was like that
Starting point is 00:32:45 catalyst with that uptown music. That's the catalyst of my hip hop soul sound. And um... Cheers to love. Cheers. Cheers to love. Yeah man. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. And speaking of love, my favorite song on it is What's Love. I do like that and Deliver Me. That's number two and three just in case you forgot. Yeah, that Dirty Money, we back.
Starting point is 00:33:11 In effect, making some beautiful train music, as I call it. I love that. What made you go back to that? What made you want to reconnect with Dirty Money? This honestly was a record that it's J Dilla. I got a chance. Busta brought me this J Dilla joint. I was like, yeah, I'll get a chance, even though J Dilla's not here, to actually produce a record with J Dilla. So then I put the music on top of a J Dilla joint and I was like y'all get a chance even though J Dilla's not here to actually do produce a record with J Dilla so then I put the music on top of a J Dilla beat and Dirty Money
Starting point is 00:33:30 we were doing it and at first we were doing it Busta was like let me get that joint and I was like um he never used it then um and when I was putting this project together there's certain songs that I did a long time ago so this song was one of them and then i not asked girls if they wanted to be a part of it and they was like yeah and and then um just like the the um that's a record called deliver me and buses on that and dirty money's on that and that's our first record in 13 years and um yeah what's your favorite record and and then i would say one of me I did eight years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Another one of me. Yeah. Another one of me I did eight years. Eight years ago I did that record. Yeah, yeah. 21.
Starting point is 00:34:14 That's definitely one of 21's. Is that your favorite record on now? No. What's your favorite? I think I know what it is
Starting point is 00:34:22 but it's probably one of the most He probably don't have one favorite. Homecoming is dope. Stay a while is dope. What's the one with the think I know what it is, but it's probably what it's about. He probably don't have one favorite. Homecoming is dope. Stay a while is dope. What's the one with the 702 sample? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:34:28 You speeding, man. I was asking. I was asking so much. I'm still on the weekend. You're going to get this. You speeding. The Weeknd record with 21 in French. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:38 You can say that's his last collaboration, a last feature or something? Yeah. That's the Weeknd. This is his last feature. And I think we love The Weeknd on his features. The Weeknd always does a i'm saying i'm like really fans it is and really love their voices like when i made the the album it wasn't um okay let me get this person because they have this type of these type of streams it was like i i wanted to tell my love story i wanted to tell you know i wanted to be able to utilize these voices to translate my feelings and um these are all like my favorite voices from
Starting point is 00:35:26 jasmine sullivan yeah to her to the weekend the summer walkers even sway lee like the frequency of his voice he reminds me like of a ralph tresvant you know i'm saying i've never heard justin bieber sound so so yeah justin bieber and justin bieber like i know justin from from r&b you know know what I'm saying? Like, from when he first got into it, just being with Usher singing R&B. So me hearing all those riffs, being able to get with him. Tiana Taylor, being able to, like, get her in the studio and, like, really work hands-on with these artists. Like, one of my favorite records is this record called I Like.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It's Caitlyn, For Real, For Real, and myself, but then Jodeci and Jeremiah, and it's like, you know what I'm saying, it's bridging the gap. That's one thing I wanted to do with this album. This is the Super Bowl of R&B. I'm not here to save R&B, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of dope R&B that's out there. I just make my type of R&B and I want these artists to come in and experience it. So having Jodeci on a record with Jeremiah and Kaelin For Real, For Real and myself, it's just like getting back to that feeling, man. So I love that joint. I love Brought My Love To You because it's like not a lot of records that you could play at the cookout or at the celebration, a lot of R&B joints that you could play.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Great way to start the album. And so that one was, I mean, I love the whole album. It's a whole by your work. You know what I'm saying? I purposely was on there where you could get your stroke onto it. This is for the strokers. You know what I'm saying? A lot of cats, they like the rabbit style.
Starting point is 00:37:03 You know what I'm saying? This is for the strokers. You know what I'm saying? A lot of cats, they like the rabbit style. You know what I'm saying? This is for the strokers. You know what I'm saying? Cats that like to really make love to your woman. Your woman like to make love to you, look deep in her eyes, and it's the stroke. How long should a stroke last? Stroke. Should he count it by the seconds, or you just?
Starting point is 00:37:18 No, no, it's more of a rhythm thing. You know what I'm saying? It's more of a feeling, though. You know what I'm saying? But it's just not like, ah, let me just, you know what I'm saying? You could of a feeling though you know what i'm saying but it's just not like ah let me just you know what i'm saying you could you could throw that in there as as like a song tempo change but it's like it's not like you know what i'm saying you can do that like like but if that's your only go-to you know what i'm saying that that's not the frequency of love that we talking about this is that r b this is that this is that soul take your time beg your girl to come
Starting point is 00:37:46 back you know how you lay it down I got three records that have stay in it you know I'm saying because because that's my life I'm always like oh man baby can you just stay don't leave me you know and so it's just like the way you make love when you're trying to get your girl to stay is different you know I'm saying so it's like you know it's an off the grid experience go off the grid with your girl bring the album you know what i'm saying and um do whatever you do and turn off your wi-fi a lot of songs though 23 songs but it's 23 songs yeah because that's i'm i'm into to long type of multiple round love making vibe vibe sessions you know what i'm saying if If you're a girl, you know what I'm saying? I just want to sit there.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I just want to just like, it's your girl or your man or your girl, your man, whatever you're into. Nobody's judging. Just go off the grid, you know what I mean? Like, how you doing? How you feeling? Get into their brain, their soul, their mind. And this is the music that you can have in the background, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:41 I know it's your album, but why did you feel the need to be on every record? For the reason you just said. Because sometimes you be in a vibe, and know it's your album but why did you feel the need to be on every record for for the reason you just said because sometimes you be in a vibe and then it's just like i don't want to hear the rap right now i just want to hear the music um i'm really like on six records out of like 26 damn you know it's it's it's i you know you you do what you feel i don't i don't think you go okay i to be on this record, especially with an album like this. It's more about me as the producer. So I didn't, you know, I wanted records to just keep you in your vibe
Starting point is 00:39:12 and me to be like the narrator of the situation. You know what I'm saying? I feel like you on every record. Yeah, it's probably just because of my sonic sound. You know what I'm saying? Just, it's, less is more for me. You know what I'm saying? But, just, just, just, it's, it's, less is more for me. You know what I'm saying? But,
Starting point is 00:39:27 well, he's speaking on records regardless if he's not rapping. Yeah, I want to go back to something he said though. I felt like sitting, when I was sitting in the living room and I'm listening to this last night
Starting point is 00:39:36 and that, I felt like, oh, I got to go lay in the bed with my girl. Like, I should not be listening to this by myself. To, to your point about him being that kind of vibe.
Starting point is 00:39:43 But did you really get up and go? Nah, I didn't. Yeah, you stayed on the couch. Yeah, I did. So right. So it didn't matter. So you can't act on it now. That's what you were supposed to do last night.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah, yeah. Too late. She already listened without you. It's done. Yeah, but it's also if you just love on, this is a style of R&B, bro. You know what I'm saying? You could be into toxic stuff, or you could be in the stuff that you could sing, and you could love R&B, this is a style of R&B, bro. You know what I'm saying? You could be into toxic stuff, or you could be into stuff that you could sing,
Starting point is 00:40:08 and you could think about your girl, or you could be in love. I don't know, you know what I'm saying? At whatever point, it's even like, it's not heavy, though, neither. You know what I'm saying? It's just a beautiful body of work. It's a vibe. You know what I'm saying? And they used to do it one, two steps to a couple of the songs.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Now, listen, speaking of one-two step, my Baltimore brother, Bunky, tried to teach you to dance. Yeah. You still out here doing that? No, I mean, I just, you know what it is? I have my own individual style of moving. You do. And whenever I try to move like somebody else,
Starting point is 00:40:40 it doesn't work for me. So it's like, get in your bag, stay in your bag. You know what I'm saying? But you was alright with it though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I could get alright when I get the flow, but I gotta move the way
Starting point is 00:40:50 my body like actually moves. So it was more, I like dancing and like just learning different styles of dance and stuff like that, but I always will like, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:02 translate it my way. I'm in a big dance season in my life. When have you not been? When a record comes on. Right. I promise myself I'm going to dance to the fullest on every record. It's just like.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I got you. You know what's so. Feel good. It's that I actually flew Bunky in to do a dance session with me because that's part of my cardio. You couldn't wait to tell me. That is my home. Bunky's a guy, man.
Starting point is 00:41:22 His name is Bunky. Bunky. Bunky. Bunky. Got you. Got you. Yeah. Bunky is like the originator. His name is Bunky. Bunky. Bunky. Got you, got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Bunky is like the originator. Yes. You know what I'm saying? The strut. The strut, the strut. How does the strut go? What is it? Diddy can show.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Diddy was killing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Diddy did it. Diddy gonna show us? No, no, no. No, no, no. You're just sitting back. You stand back like you wanna show us.
Starting point is 00:41:41 No, no, no. I'm gonna show y'all. Y'all know everybody come out to Brooklyn. I'm doing this concert. I'm starting to go out there and do shows and bring the frequency. Take the frequency on a tour, okay? I'm not a human. I'm a frequency.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'm past human, okay? I'm a frequency. I like that. So come out to Brooklyn. We're going to be strutting. We're going to be bopping. Coney Island boardwalk. We're going to be strutting. I think it's the Coney Island boardwalk. Coney Island boardwalk.
Starting point is 00:42:07 It's going to be historic. I'm getting out there early to get on the rides because it's about living life. Why go to an amusement park at night and get on the rides? I'm going to get on the rides. I'm just, you know, that's what we're doing. One time you were thinking about buying, purchasing BET. Mm-hmm. Is that still on your mind and why? Because you got revolt so why was BT yeah um you know I really I wanted to look at it I
Starting point is 00:42:31 mean there's no way to go unless you really kind of um you know go into acquisitions you know saying so right now I'm really looking heavy on acquisitions and really building the the world's biggest black media company. You know what I'm saying? I'm on my second mountain. I really feel like I'm just beginning in my career. I feel like my purpose is sharpened, you know, and I've gone from me to we. So it's like, you know, the things that I'm looking at are really, really big moves.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You know, I want to really take over Disney. You feel me? I want us because I know there's going to be a shift. I know there's going to be a change. I know the aliens coming. I know that, you know, the last shall be first. The first shall be last. I'm not going to be sitting here surprised.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I'm going to be ready. You know what I'm saying? As far as how big and how bold my thinking is. And so, you know, looking at where I had Revolt and where Revolt is at now is like one of the most profitable networks that are out there. We was able to pass, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:34 as far as our digital footprint, you know, past complex. That was a big thing for us when we started. We didn't really own our own culture. And so now Revolt has really stepped into that, you know, to that position. So I was looking at BET. And after, when you're looking at buying a company, you've got to do your due diligence to see if it fits your strategy. And so even before they decided not to sell it, it didn't make sense to me.
Starting point is 00:43:58 So I basically had told them before that. But I didn't make an announcement about it because it really wasn't about that. You know, so, you know, looking at it. Why the revolt I mean exactly but I but I had to look and see the possibilities because BET is one of the most profitable companies because we only get one percent of advertising dollars people don't know how crazy like like like like like people know how bad we get treated as people of color but it's like, I don't think we really face the reality about that we had more wealth when we was like slaves than we have now. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is a reality.
Starting point is 00:44:36 The numbers don't lie. And so when BET gets a major portion of black advertising dollars, because they only give us 1% because that's what we accept. You know what I'm saying? So Revolt is definitely coming out here to change the tone. And I felt like combining the forces, I could change the tone. I feel like the only way we're going to change the tone
Starting point is 00:44:54 is by unifying. So unifying the black brands and getting a chance to be at that scale. And that's what I wanted to do with Tyler Perry. I want to do things. I feel like we have to combine our money in order to take back what's ours. And so, you know, but when I was looking at it as far as me just doing it by myself, the dollars didn't make sense. So I withdrew my offer before it.
Starting point is 00:45:16 But the things I'm looking at are to really combine things and have the biggest, most powerful media company that we could be free with what we want to say and how we want to say it. Because you know, like on here, one of y'all can still get fired for saying something black and really proud and really saying something that's right that you need to say. At Revolt, you ain't going to get fired. You feel me? So I should go over there? Nah, not necessarily. It's just that, you know, it's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:45:50 When you look at Revolt, you have to look at really what it is. It's the only thing that's owned by a man of color or a person of color. I mean, you have Radio 1, Kathy Hughes. I'm sorry. Shout out to Kathy Hughes. She's definitely, we talk about like from our culture that really is dealing with things like this that are, you know, that when we need to go somewhere and say what's really going on, y'all going to go to revolt. Because CNN ain't going to have y'all. You know what I'm saying? ESPN, you say something wrong, that's about sports.
Starting point is 00:46:20 They'll get rid of that, get rid of you just for speaking your mind. And so if you can't speak your mind, you can't speak truth to power through the media. The media is the strongest form of anything. Right. You know what I'm saying? Anything. There's nothing more. A man who controls the media controls the mind.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Revolt, we're looking at making big moves because not because i need it because we need it as a people yeah we need a black free press we need a place that we could go to and be free and talk how we want to talk and do what we want to do absolutely and speaking of top me off real quick yeah speaking of the update one of my favorites you know you know what i know you're impossible diddy yeah yeah you just gotta You gotta just live your life. I didn't even know when it, I don't know, I thought we had got off of that. We off of that, right?
Starting point is 00:47:13 It's reflex. It's reflex. There's no reflex. That was no reason to say that. I ain't gonna lie, I play the pause game, but I'm unpauseable. I be saying the most pausing things ever. I don't know why. It's reflex.
Starting point is 00:47:26 It's called freedom. It is. Right. So speaking of Revolt being a place where you can go and- This is our 10th anniversary of Revolt, y'all. 10th anniversary of Revolt. We are proud to say, and we want to thank y'all officially, the Breakfast Club. Y'all helped to put us on the map.
Starting point is 00:47:44 That's right. You know what I'm saying? Y'all helped to put us on the map. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Y'all helped to get us in the game. We did some great things together, and we're still family. And you were the first to believe in us, too. Yes, yes. BET, I mean, you could technically say BET got this idea from Revolt. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Y'all were with us. And how many years? That was Andre's whole vision? How many years? No, that was my vision. I saw y'all, and I was like, I know that they stars. They got something that's going to break the internet. Yeah, yeah, I saw y'all. That was me. That was like five years ago. No, that's my vision. I saw y'all and I was like, I know that they stars. They got something that's going to break the internet. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I saw y'all. That was me. That was like five years ago. No, that was me. I remember when Diddy was trying to make it all nice. And Diddy was like, I want that camera. I want that view. I want it to be gritty.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yeah. See, see. I remember Andre being involved too, though. See, that's the thing with Diddy is that y'all be trying to burn his receipts. No. No, no, no, no, no, no. But you hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Oh, everybody chill. So Diddy actually wrote the Breakfast Club they first check. Oh. Yeah, yeah. The first one to believe in him and take him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Take him to TV. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. We talking to TV. Oh, yeah. We talking about ancillary income. Yeah, you do good on your ancillary income. Let me get my receipts.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Take that. Hey, man, the check wasn't all that big. The opportunity was bigger than the check. Hey, yo, check. It was something. It was a stepping stone.
Starting point is 00:49:03 It was a stepping stone in your glorious career. Don't skip over it because I'm a black man. It was a stepping stone in your glorious career. Don't skip over it because I'm a black man. I'm a stand up for mine. Nobody else was running that. I wasn't here when you read the checks. Are you going to write another one? Amen.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Are you going to write another one? I wasn't here when you wrote it. And I know it'll be much more now knowing that. How difficult was it to make the Kim Porter record? It was extremely easy to make the Kim Porter record. My desire for wanting to be in her presence somehow is a constant thing that I yearn for. And so when I made that record,
Starting point is 00:49:42 I really believe in the power of music. And so I felt like if I made that record I really believe in the power of music and so I felt like if I made that record for her that with the intentions of her coming to visit me in my dreams like I have the best of both worlds I know I can't have her in the physical but to be able to just be able to like like that's my dog like that's my friend I wasn't like, my baby mama or my girlfriend. It was just, like, the only person that I listened to. You know what I'm saying? It was, like, my navigation, and then, like,
Starting point is 00:50:12 my navigation is off, and I got to, like, try to find a map. That's how crazy, like, you know, it was. And so I was just, like, I really know how powerful my music is. And so, you know, I told Babyface the story and then I told John Legend like this is why I don't want to make the record for streams the record is like you know it's it's it's a real like just like expression of love a real love letter to Kim and you know I'm saying this is is is's really how my love feels and so it was beautiful to be able to do that and she has come and visited me and my dreams
Starting point is 00:50:49 so it is right yeah I made that record on the record you in the middle you say you know you know Kim I know you can hear me yeah yeah what was that in the dream if you don't mind us that no we just talking shit smoking a joint in the dream there's a couple of times. Just what we do, it wasn't nothing. But I was saying, I know you can hear me because I'm sending the message to her. I'm sending that frequency to her because I believe there's a whole other dimension and I don't think you look back, you know what I'm saying? But I just needed her to just stay and come visit me.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And you aren't featured on that record as Babyface and John Legend. I needed her to just stay and come visit me. And you aren't featured on that record as Babyface and John Legend. Was it too hard to come up with a verse? Like you didn't like anything people were giving you? Or you just didn't feel like no words could really express what you wanted to express? Oh, nah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I just was just doing what felt right for the stroke. You know what I'm saying? You know, like, you know, if you- Yo, come on man Why would you do that right now Yeah Because
Starting point is 00:51:47 I don't know where your mind is at When I'm thinking about I'm thinking about my woman I don't know I can't get into None of this homophobic stuff Y'all got going on I don't
Starting point is 00:51:57 I don't I'm just like I don't know Y'all can play that game I just like I'm just me I'm just saying When I'm thinking about
Starting point is 00:52:04 I'm telling you I'm making the music You just me. Right. I'm just singing. When I'm thinking about that, I'm telling you how I'm making the music. You know what I'm saying? I'm a Scorpio, King. Right. I'm a Scorpio. That's my thing. That explains a lot. My thing is my stroke, baby.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And that's my music. That's the vibe my music gives. But you to stroke your woman. That's right. Don't think about my stroke. Think about your stroke or your woman. Right, exactly. Like, you thinking about your woman, me thinking about Envy.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And then it's like a lot going on. Relax. This is awkward. Sorry, man. Why are you awkward? I don't know. I'm confused. I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Be comfortable within your skin, baby. We are. We're too comfortable. That's the problem. I'm very comfortable. But hold on one thing. Also in the record, in the hook, you keep saying seven days, six nights.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Yeah. What's the significance of in the hook, you keep saying seven days, six nights. Yeah. What's the significance of that? Oh, very good question. So, you know, before the internet, if your girl, and if your girl like wanted to disappear on you, she was mad, she'd just go black. You'd be calling her mom's crib like, hey, hey, Miss Porter, you know where Kim is at?
Starting point is 00:53:05 Honey, I don't know what y'all doing. Don't put me in the middle. You be calling every place. You be outside. That's when stalking started. You know what I'm saying? You be outside in the car like, where is she at? She definitely not there.
Starting point is 00:53:17 She at her girlfriend's house. You don't even know this girlfriend. And they on the run. They on the lam. You all go all over the place. It be six days, seven nights, I would be waiting just to hear the sound of her voice, just to pick up that phone, hello, yeah, hello.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I'm like, whew. So that's where the six days and seven nights waiting for her sound, like she was a very, very stubborn, stand strong person. It's like when she would just disappear, it was like, you don't know if it would be forever. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:53:48 But this was the extension of Last Night kind of then. Yeah, Last Night is to her. There's a bunch of records. I Need a Girl Part Two. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Do you regret not marrying her? Mm-mm. No, I don't have any regrets, you know what I'm saying? Like, as I said, our relationship
Starting point is 00:54:01 was bigger than just, okay, this is a relationship. I got you married. You my girl. You my baby mama. This, that, you know what I'm saying? Like, as I said, our relationship was, was, was bigger than just, okay, this is a relationship. I got you married. You my girl, you my baby mama, this, that, you know what I'm saying? It's like the, like the connection of being, you know what I'm saying? And it really taught me, you know, how to love. And that's the way I love right now. So that's why I don't put different things in like categories like that, because I feel like, you know, the people that's going really mad in your life you know I'm saying me I don't know if it's gonna be your wife because that's the title you put on it you know saying I don't know if that's gonna be your best experience if that's you know I'm saying and so you know my brother love just love it's just love everybody it's just love it's not brother love it's not a 1970s new name. It's a modern new name. It's just love. Love, love, love, love.
Starting point is 00:54:51 When you see me, throw your L in the air and say love, love, love. Now, after the VMAs, there was rumors that Young Miami was pregnant. She played into it. When was that? I didn't hear that. Yeah, I can't believe you didn't hear it. No, I didn't hear it. So are the rumors true?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Kareesh should be throwing y'all for a spin. I'm going to tell y'all right now, Kareesh should be having fun. It'd be like a video game to her. You said you were stroking. We just asking. I'm not. I don't think. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I know she ain't pregnant. Is your wife pregnant? I got six. I'm going to tell you straight up. I got six. I might have one more. pregnant? I got six. I'm going to tell you straight up. You be the craziest one asking about somebody's girl or her personal joint, but can't nobody
Starting point is 00:55:31 even say nothing to you about nothing. I ain't. I ain't. I don't know. Hey, yo, playboy. I'm going to tell you. Men, as men, I don't talk about my relationships with nobody like that. I don't mind anybody asking me a question.
Starting point is 00:55:48 You can ask me whatever you want. I don't care. That's not my business. I'm not thinking about you and another woman. If somebody disrespects, it's another level. Oh, I can't even imagine somebody disrespecting me. Exactly. But that's my feeling.
Starting point is 00:56:01 That's how I feel. It's easy for people to go online and disrespect. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Okay, that's how I feel about easy for people to go online The beige rage was coming The beige rage Really? I don't know. Envy, you got to go into the love frequencies. I agree.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I agree. No, I agree with you. You got to go into the love frequencies. I told him that yesterday. He's been having a year. Like, so we got to get him out of whatever frequency. You got to stage him or something. Pray over you. Something.
Starting point is 00:56:41 You definitely been on your pup daddy. When they go to that left, when they go to that left, go to that left with them. And then when I go too low They be like I take it too far It's all cool when they do it But when I do it It's a problem
Starting point is 00:56:49 Yeah That's water Diddy is drinking water He's hydrating Oh Hey I like that I'm happy it ain't him
Starting point is 00:57:00 It's the energy It's called the frequency It's the energy Of the celebration. Y'all playing that or did it just happen? God popped the pin right in. Congratulations. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Congratulations to us all. And also to me, being Diddy Day, returning back to music, and being alive. God woke me up this morning. I got a second chance at life. You got a champagne brush? Oh, man, it ain't nothing. He ain't got it. As long as he ain't getting on the way.
Starting point is 00:57:30 He ain't never living in champagne. I wanted to ask you, Diddy. As long as he ain't getting on the way. Because you are a leader, and you are a person who disrupts systems. And you did that a couple of years ago with the Our Black Party. Presidential election is next year.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Are you bringing Our black party back? I'm really in a reflective mode of just where my time is as far as solutions. So when I look at change, I'm not looking at the regular way of solution. I'm looking into more radical things right now. I want radical change. I don't want us to be looking up 20 years later and the same thing's going on. You know what I'm saying? We had the 60th anniversary of the March on Washington,
Starting point is 00:58:16 and things are actually worse. A lot of people don't really realize that Martin Luther King's last words were, last time we went to D.C., we was marching to be included. Now we're going to D.C. to get the check. Okay? And so I think about radical solutions. So that's why I like Empower Global. It's a big thing for me, a solution for us to circulate our
Starting point is 00:58:46 dollars not for me to just talk about it political power was was something that as far as not not power political no political power us unifying uh and weaponizing our vote something I was you know was looking at so I definitely definitely have supported one of the first black political parties, but I'm still working out the infrastructure. You better clean up, Diddy Mess. Clean up,
Starting point is 00:59:16 Daddy Mess. Clean up, Daddy Mess. You stupid. With the political party, politics, I don't know if it's my solution. I think we're going to have to get more aggressive. I don't know if we're going to be able to be political. Vote or die, they're going to need it
Starting point is 00:59:34 because a lot of people don't feel energized. They didn't just vote or die. I think a lot of people are not going to come out. But I cannot tell you that the political route is what's going to get to the change that I want. So I'm spending my time on just more radical things like our own digital main street on economic power. Because once we can turn our economic trajectory around, I think that's the only thing that can save us. It's like putting the mask on first.
Starting point is 01:00:03 What thing do you decide to put your time with? And so I'm really focused on economic power, you know, of us, you know, as far as with, you know, circulating our dollar and supporting us. So that's what Empower Global is about. I have other different things that are solutions with. I thought a solution was, you know know our black party which was you know going after political power but I'm only one person and I want to do things I feel could have the most radical impact and I think that right now fighting the economic war against corporate America as a whole because even with you gotta understand even with Diageo it's not just about Diageo it's not
Starting point is 01:00:40 like oh Diageo's a villain this is going on across all of corporate America. And so that's the fight that I'm into right now. We've seen you give a million to EYL Foundation and also to Jackson State, right? Jackson State and Howard. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think it's about, you know, I could come in, I could talk about it, or I could show you my receipts. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:01 And that's all. I just want y'all to just, with me, just go, let's look at the receipts. Let's not never go on with somebody saying. Let's look at if they have the receipts, they have the numbers, and they have the things to back it up. Is it adding up? Because I'm not going to, like, run around and be, you know, ever just trying to prove myself.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You know what I'm saying? My thing is to just do it you know saying this so when you see the things that I'm doing now I mean you know I'm going on a love rampage yeah you know saying I ain't hiding nothing I ain't scared no that's the season that I'm in I'm filled with the Holy Spirit and you could take this love or you could you could actually not take it it's up to you but I'm here to give that love. What, you going to rephrase take that, take that?
Starting point is 01:01:49 You going to say maybe take that, take that? Shut up, man. Nah, nah. Nah, you got to keep taking that. We keep and take that. But the frequency that's in, it depends on what dimension you in. If you in a low dimension, you probably not going to be, we ain't going to be on that same level. You know what I'm saying? I'm not really for you if If you in a low dimension, you probably not going to be, we ain't going to be on that same level. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:07 I'm not really for you if you're in a low dimension. If you ready to come up to a higher dimension, higher frequency, that's where I'm at. What's success like in regards to this album?
Starting point is 01:02:16 What would be a success for you? Just, just, I always, I always measure success with music if somebody's at home singing a song while they're just cleaning up the house or, you know, a car that's next to me and somebody's just in there singing it. Just for people to really, really, like, love the music.
Starting point is 01:02:41 As far as, you know, and then some babies to be made and some some dances to be had and you know it's a spawn just you know more of this type of you know more like love like man woman man man woman man whatever it is right whatever your love is that feeling bringing that feeling back and not just a toxic feeling because life needs a balance yeah and it's definitely an album that people can enjoy each other too like you said i think it's just the impact that it'll have on you know man and woman like together it makes you want to talk to your partner it makes you want to be like oh you heard this yeah like because And it's cool for woman on woman.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I said your man or your woman. Your man or your woman. Sorry, man and or, you know, them two. Whoever, you know, just to really enjoy it. I'm just saying, yo, whoever I want to, you know. It's for that.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I love that. I actually like the back of what your jacket say. Yeah, this is the slogan. Are we selling those? Is there any way we can get those? The R. say. Yeah, this is the slogan. Are we selling those? Is there any way we can get those? The R.B. album, you can fuck to. This is the R.B. album that you can fuck to. That was the intention.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Hopefully, of the rollout, we're going to keep on bringing y'all into it. I have this movie trailer. Rollout's our last start. Rollout's in the fun of it. It's the fun of explaining your process. As I said, some people have to do it for hustle, and I respect that. Some people do it for the art. And, you know, I love SZA.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I love Brent Fiaz. You know, love Bryson Tiller, Chris Brown. Yeah, Summer Walker, SZA. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Brent Fiaz. He from Columbia, Maryland. That's one of my brothers. Yeah, yeah. yeah summer walker scissor you know what i'm saying like shout out to brent faizy from columbia maryland that's one of my brothers yeah yeah everybody the whole r&b all the producers the whole r&b universe and family like even when i did the r&b is dead it was just to to make sure
Starting point is 01:04:37 that people we we got a perspective that r&b and hip-hop two different things. It's like we may look the same, but that doesn't mean that we're the same. R&B is like baseball. Hip hop is like soccer. It's not the same thing. It shouldn't be competing. It's not the same frequency. And so it limits the success of younger hip hop artists if they got to compete against, I mean younger R&B artists, I'm sorry. If they have to compete almost against, in like a divide and conquer,
Starting point is 01:05:08 soulful musical situation, you know what I'm saying? So us coming together is going to really shine light on, like, boom, this is R&B. We're our own category. You know what I'm saying? This is hip hop. They're their own category. We respect what each other does.
Starting point is 01:05:22 But it's different. Yes, we're part of the same lifestyle, the culture, you know. But this album, I think, with the unity is going to really make that clear. You know, I love the music. I love what you're doing with business. But the one thing I respect about you the most is how you are with your kids. Because that's the balance with this industry in most industries right is you want to work hard you want to get that check right because you want to support you
Starting point is 01:05:49 want to make sure your kids have things that you didn't have yeah but a lot of times when we do that we don't have the time and when i look at love or diddy or puff you you make the time you're at the kid's chair you're you know playing with the baby you know on the floor in the grass you're rolling around with the baby you're with your kids the grass, you're rolling around with the baby, you're with your kids, whether it's music or acting, whatever it may be, and that's what I respect the most because I love seeing that because I feel like a lot of times when we talk about what we don't see a lot of times, we don't see that enough.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Yes, yes. And I respect that the most when it comes to you. Thank you very much. It's inspiring for most dads because it's like, shit, if Diddy can do it, Diddy were for Billy, I can do it if I'm worth $10,000 or if I'm worth $100,000 or if I'm worth, it doesn't matter, but you can put that time in and we see what those seeds do. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:34 That's like me being on the stage with them the other night. It's just like so surreal, as I said, you know what I'm saying, with my son, but with my daughters and then my daughter, she's an aspiring actress. And just seeing, like, man, like, I did something really good. Like, I really, like, raised them. Because fathers, you know, we really get, like, we still got this stigma on us, you know what I'm saying? Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:59 You know what I'm saying? Especially black fathers. Yeah. Yeah, and it's just time to press reset, man. Forget all the stigmas that was in the past. What's in the now? And I get the same inspiration when I see your family, King. When I see you, like, I know you as Envy,
Starting point is 01:07:14 but that's the thing I respect about you. Envy going to have his family matching. They going to be sitting there having, like, we designing the pajamas. It's Christmas. We doing the best Christmas card. We don't care what the Kardash it's Christmas we doing the best Christmas card we don't care what the Kardashians doing we got the best Christmas card I can see all that and has me like yo we gotta get you know Envy really putting
Starting point is 01:07:33 it down on this trip to Mexico they got all the same you know saying so it's it all it all goes around you know saying this is as far as like you know the things that important to us and it's like I think that the thing black fathers have been able to get over the last couple of years is this unity and camaraderie as far as like, yeah, now we playing a part in this too, mama. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. We got this too, but it's just like, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:01 we learned it though from the black woman or the woman period. You know what I'm saying? You know, I learned it from the black woman, or the woman period, you know what I'm saying? You know, I learned it from the black woman, but the woman has taught us how to be better fathers. Couple more questions, what is Bad Boy Records now? Bad Boy Records right now is where everything's at with me totally, it's the second mountain. Is it Bad Boy or is it Love Records? No, no, bad boy records is is
Starting point is 01:08:26 is the hip-hop label love records is the r&b label and so um bad boy records is a part of the future love records is a part of the future so bad boy has um you know my son on it right now and um you know if i as as as i get more into music and get my feet wet i'm starting with r&b just because of the frequency of where I'm at. You know what I'm saying? And, yeah, so right now, you know, both are a part of the future plan of this multimedia company that I'm putting together that will empower all these different categories.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Yeah, and as far as your tour, because you're about to go back on tour, are you thinking of anybody to have open up for you? Like, is it going to be a one-man tour? Because you have a lot of features, so you could bring all of them, but who would you? That's one of the things for me is, like, every night that you come see me, you'll see a different show. There'll be no two shows that are the same. You know, I like, as an artist, I'm like, yeah, my muse is P.T. Barnum, you know what I'm saying? Like the ringmaster of the circus,
Starting point is 01:09:30 they call me P.D. Barnum, you know what I'm saying? And so every night you'll have a surprise. I'll take you on a musical journey. And my touring will be different. I'll go set up in certain spots for like three days, take over the city, bring the love, do everything to really, you know, have a certain impact on the city bring the love do do do everything to really you know have have a certain impact on the city you know in a
Starting point is 01:09:49 positive way so it's a different touring plan but my first my first um tour date is gonna be overseas you know I'm saying and and definitely we're celebrating 30 years of bad boy so it'll probably be Pete one of people's like last chances to see like the whole Bad Boy family together on some of the joints. And then you'll just see people that you want to see in a way that I'm going to unify and bring. I bring the future music together.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I bring the past music together. But I bring that feeling together. That's my thing. It's not about the ego. It's not about me. It's about me giving you the best show that your money can buy. Are we going to see the J.D. Diddy verses?
Starting point is 01:10:27 Yeah, I think that you'll see that when it's set up. I think that it's good. Like J.D., it'll be fun because we both make records that are in the frequency. You know what I'm saying? And then, you know, I would like to, after that, I would like to see me and Dr. Dre dance. Or whoever else wants to dance. I think it's nothing but positive getting your music and displaying your music out there with people.
Starting point is 01:10:52 It just makes everything sharp. You know what I'm saying? You do hip hop with JD or would it just be just- Not if you say you want Dre next. If you want Dre next to me, it's JD and Diddy, R&B and remixes. That's what I'm saying. Hip hop with Dre. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:11:06 You have so many styles I can hit you with stuff that I hit you from Burnin' Boys last album that I had did I can hit you with early Mary J. Blige stuff I can hit you with artists that you never even knew
Starting point is 01:11:14 that I I mean I have so many different styles like you know in Kung Fu they have the Drunken Monkey they have the Snake Style
Starting point is 01:11:20 Cobra Spider I have like all of them styles in the one so you can do a couple verses yeah yeah yeah yeah so i could i could do verses like a couple of times with whoever really wants to smoke but um you know that's that's that's really where we at i would love to see you know what i love about this conversation i really do see you vibrating on
Starting point is 01:11:38 a higher frequency and i don't know if people knew like you know a few years ago i feel like you were like in a perpetual state of grief. Yeah. I feel like I see the healing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, when we've spoken about this as far as, like, mental health,
Starting point is 01:11:58 you're never too high, you know what I'm saying, to, like, most people that have success, they, like, really, like, burn out, you know what I'm saying, or go crazy or, you know what I'm saying? It's not, you know, there's, there's, there's different sides to it, but just as people in general, nobody is, um, nobody is immune to depression. Nobody's immune to grief, hard times, just because you've been successful in anything or even if you i mean whatever has been the cause that it dealt to you that's the one thing that unifies us is like this anxiety and this mental craziness that that we that that has been a result of the phones and the computers and just like you know just being human you know I'm saying so it's
Starting point is 01:12:45 like that's a choice to go vibrate at a higher frequency it's a choice to be kind it's a choice to you know step into your love frequency and I've just made that choice but it's a process you have to go through a metamorphosis you gotta really tap into to God you have to submit and let god and let go and go to wherever it tells you to go it may tell you it may tell you to fight harder it may tell you to go into this you know i'm saying for me it just told me to become love you know i'm saying and so that's where i'm at and i'm you know it's a constant thing i'm not like perfect i'm not whatever it is but that's that's that's what i'm on i I'm just on the love. I'd rather smile at you than anything else.
Starting point is 01:13:27 You know what I'm saying? I'd rather work it out or get to the solution or be a part of the success of you or the happiness of you. I don't want anything else but just to be, you know, giving that energy. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Connery. Love. Yeah, love. The album is out right now.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Yes, right now. And the album is really good. Like, really, really good. It's very, very proper. You can't call him that. Call him what? What you call him? What did you say?
Starting point is 01:13:56 What is his name? Sean Combs. You can't call him. Only one person can call him Sean Combs, and you are not that person. Too bad you don't keep up with Diddy. His name is Diddy. Ladies and gentlemen, Diddy. We got Diddy. got diddy ladies and gentlemen how you doing i love you
Starting point is 01:14:08 all and congratulations congrats thank you go get the love album y'all get it go get it right now if you love r b you know me tell y'all who's on there and give a shout out to everybody that's on there mary j blige is on there we made our return from my life. The Weeknd, French Montana, Coco Jones, Summer Walker, Justin Bieber, John Legend, Tiana Taylor, Fabulous, The Dream, Busta Rhymes, Dirty Money, Ty Dolla $ign, Jaquese, Kehlani, 21 Savage, Sway Lee, Jeremiah, Jazzy, Nova Wave, Kaylin For Real For Real, Nija, and yours truly and her Diddy
Starting point is 01:14:46 and her her her thank you for having my back her thank you Jeff thank you to everybody
Starting point is 01:14:51 thank you to everybody I ever worked with in New York your boy when I'm outside and they see me they see y'all they see New York
Starting point is 01:14:58 believe that New York stand up what's up yeah love alright it's the Breakfast Club
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