The Breakfast Club - Do Women Have A Higher Success Rate Shooting Their Shot?

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

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Starting point is 00:03:16 It's topic time. Pick up the phone, baby. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Let's talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, Charlamagne is out, so we got our guest host with us.
Starting point is 00:03:36 We have Claudia Jordan. My wife, Gia, is here as well. Now, we're asking if you're just joining us. 800-585-1051. Yesterday after the show, the ladies of The Breakfast Club were talking about shooting their shots. And they were saying when they shoot their shot with a man, they always hit 100% from the line. And they were saying that their relationships when they shoot their shot last a little longer. So we're asking, ladies, have you ever shot your shot?
Starting point is 00:03:59 And how did it turn out? 800-585-1051. I want to ask you a question. Yes, ma'am. So they said that when they shoot their shot from the line, it usually goes in. Those are their longest relationships. So from a man's point of view, why do you think that is? Is it because the man is flattered?
Starting point is 00:04:16 Because he knows that the woman is 100% in? That she really wants to be there because she approached him? Because she went for the gusto? What do you think it is? I think it's a little bit of everything. mean you still have to look attractive like you just can't shoot your shot and you know you you gotta you know okay so you're not looking attractive you still have to look attractive you still have to be smart yes okay and i think it's i think it's dope i think a lot of times i don't think necessarily uh women shoot their shots as much
Starting point is 00:04:40 as men do so i think when they do it's kind of intriguing okay makes you you know want to see well what is this about let's have a conversation let's talk and then you know i think most men feel like if a woman's shooting a shot she's probably horny and i could probably get it in a little faster maybe i don't know i think we're also more efficient i think men cast a big net and just try to holler at anything with a fat ass and we like we'll look at you first like okay i can see we're looking at your shoes your nails like we're not looking at a man for a fat ass deliberate yeah we don't go for fat ass. We're more deliberate.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Okay. Right, so that's why we have a higher success rate. You guys are just like, oh, ass titties. We're like, okay, he looks stable. Okay, he seems nice,
Starting point is 00:05:15 nice smile. We look at different things. So when's the last time you shot your shot at an individual? So just straight up with someone I just met, I don't really do it that often.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I will definitely give the cues where I give them the green light where they know it's okay. So what are the cues? What's your cleavage? What's the cues? No, you give a little flirty look or whatever, all that kind of stuff. But I will say I did get turned down one time with someone that I dated and I tried to spin the block again. Oh, so you tried to go back.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Tell us about that. Now I'm interested. This is super embarrassing. You got my attention. I don't want to get embarrassed. So anyways, this is a guy that I thought was the one. So we had broken up. Wait, wait, wait. So we had broken up, but like not.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Wait, wait, wait. Why'd you break up? So we were kind of young and he came into like a big contract. And so like he had to have kind of go live his life a little bit. Got it. And have his little fun. And I understood that. Like I wish I would have met him like way before, you know. Anyways, long story short, I always felt like he was like the one.
Starting point is 00:06:02 So we pleasantly broke up. We just split. but it wasn't bad so he was in town for an award show and they were hosting a party at this place so i knew he was gonna be there so i packed an overnight bag oh so you was ready he was like he's not gonna interrupt i packed an overnight bag right and i'm like thinking surely he's wanna hang out with me afterwards right of course why would he Like, why would you not? Oh, he had plans. So anyways, at the end of the night, I was hovering, you know, like this.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Oh, you know, whenever I thought maybe we would hang out and he goes, oh, I have plans. I go with somebody else. He's like, yeah. I was like, but I brought an overnight. Jesus. You didn't tell him that. No, you didn't. Claudia.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Jesus. Claudia, tell me you didn't tell him that. No, you didn't. Claudia. Jesus. Claudia, tell me you didn't tell him that. I said it with my eyes. You said it with your eyes? I said it with my eyes. So anyways, I went in the car and I cried, right? And I filmed, I did one of those corny, well, I did the Tyrese thing. I filmed myself crying, right?
Starting point is 00:07:00 To remind myself to never do, not to post, to remind myself to never go out like that again. And then I told my friends a story. And I told them, but I brought an overnight bag. To this day, they would put bags underneath my comments sometimes. So yeah, I did get shot. I lost the last of my shot. So wait, and he never called you back after that?
Starting point is 00:07:18 No, we talked, but we never went there. It was awkward. She's not going back there now. Because for me, logically, that doesn't seem like a turndown. That seems like, oh, maybe I would, but I have plans. But if he didn't call afterwards to say, hey, you know, so you brought that overnight bag. So, you know, what's up? That's a turndown.
Starting point is 00:07:38 That's what more so feels like a turndown. Because what he should have done was like, you know what? I'm canceling my plans. And come on. But since he didn't, that's second fifth. Maybe, well, we don't know what his plans are yet. He's not trying to make her feel good. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I don't like to presume. I never like to presume. Once again, I came in second. Let's go through the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Destiny. Hey, Destiny. Hi, how are you guys?
Starting point is 00:08:01 We're good, girl. Yeah, I love you. Claudia, I love you. Of course, DJ Aimee, I love you too. You ain't got to say mine like that. As long as I came in first, thank you. She sure did. See, once again, I'm second.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Now, when did you shoot your shot at somebody, Destiny? Okay, the one time in life. I never did this ever. So, I was in college, and it was like a comedy show, kind of like a wild and out vibe. They came to our college, and it was this guy. He kept looking at me. And I was telling my friends, like, oh, he's cute, girl. And my friend Zoe, she said, oh, you're so bad.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Go over there and talk to him. You think you're all that. So I said, okay, I'm going to go talk to him. And he literally laughed in my face. And for the following hour, he talked about me in the comedy show. Damn it, man. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:08:54 So when you went up to him and spoke, what was it that you said before he laughed in your face? I was just like, hi, I see that we keep making eye contact. My name is Destiny. And I just was trying to see, you know, Damn, Destiny. And then he actually left? He was just like I'm married and he was like my wife married me for money He was like so I have a bad wife at home She married me for money and this girl from college that lives in a little small town is trying to talk to me
Starting point is 00:09:33 Oh damn Jesus Destiny I wonder who the comedian was Um some no-name guy from Savannah No name No name Savannah, Georgia
Starting point is 00:09:42 Did you do the breath check before you went over there? Did you do like a to make sure you you was good money i was good let me tell you i was good i was cute that day i'm a makeup artist damn so my makeup was everything and he even said like oh you're you're cute but my wife married me from me so i'm the kid damn it that was his little thing he kept saying he's like i literally date a supermodel. Damn. Sorry, Destiny. Well, we're 0 for 2 right now. So as far as kicking it to guys, right now, I'm against it. But guys nowadays think
Starting point is 00:10:10 they're the bad bitch, though. Guys want to be bad bitch. We all. I could not. I can't imagine kicking it to a guy if I were single. If I were single.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I can't imagine. They want to be courted and the door held open for them. No, especially, especially now because men are very, very full of themselves, but they have every reason to be courted and the door held open for them. Especially now because men are very, very full of themselves. But they have every reason to be because women make them feel that way. Like we roll out the red carpet for men.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And that's the problem. How many times have you told me that you were a bad bitch? He says it a lot. He has said that to me. So this is nothing new. He has definitely said that to me. And who's badder, you or your wife? I don't like that two seconds that you had to wait. Oh, so this is nothing new, this conversation. He has definitely said that to me. And who's badder, you or your wife?
Starting point is 00:10:47 I don't like that two seconds that you have to wait. Depends on what day. Oh my God, you're supposed to answer that differently. On Wednesdays, he's pretty bad. Of course my wife, I don't mean calling myself a bad bitch. Nah, look at your eyes all squinty and lying. 800-585-1051. Women, ladies, do you kick it to men?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Do you shoot your shot at a guy? How did that go down? Let's talk about it. It's The Breakfast Club on BET. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne's out to Monday.
Starting point is 00:11:29 We have Claudia Jordan and Gia, my wife, as guest hosts. And we're asking if you're just joining us 800-585-1051 we're asking women have you shot your shot and how did it work out we were talking behind the scenes yesterday and one of our producers saying she shoots her shot all the time she's 100% with it and uh every relationship that she shot a shot actually lasted the longest so we're asking ladies have you shot your shot Tracy good morning good morning how you feeling tracy where you calling from i am in rochester okay we're talking about shooting your shot oh yeah um i had a friend who he was raised by the in-laws of my cousin so he's not related but he's always he was always around brilliant beautiful black man. And three years ago, I shot
Starting point is 00:12:07 my shot with him. And as of two months ago, he's my husband. Oh, wow. Nice. So it worked for you? Yes. It absolutely did. So he let you bring the overnight bag. He let you. So what did you say? How did you highlight him? What was the line like?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Well, from the beginning, our family has tried to get us together, but one of us was always in a relationship and we don't, neither one of us plays that kind of thing. So one of us, well, both of us were not in a relationship right before COVID and we started hanging together, you know, organically. And he asked me out to dinner one day and I was like, all right, cool. And then we just started hanging. And one day I was just like, you know what? We he asked me out to dinner one day and I was like all right cool and then we just started hanging and one day I was just like you know what we're not getting no younger like there's obviously a connection here you know I like you you're almost like family I would like to see you know this ability further and to my great surprise he was thinking the same thing he just was afraid to ask okay Okay. And we quarantined together, got into a relationship,
Starting point is 00:13:07 got engaged, like, right towards the end of COVID, and we got married a couple months ago. Oh, we're happy for you. Congrats, Mama. Congratulations. I just got my shot
Starting point is 00:13:15 and it has not worked out. Why you talking all loud for, though? She mad. I'll be mad, too. It's stressful. Hello, me? Yeah, you.
Starting point is 00:13:24 What's your name? Troy Rita? Yes, my name is Troy Rita. That's your mother's me yeah you what's your name troy rita yes my name is troy rita that's your mother's name and your dad's name yes no but i hear it all the time baby that's just my dad's name oh that's just your dad's name okay well let's talk about when you shot your shot mama and can you take us on bluetooth for speaker or the headphones you sound a little loud okay thank you all right can you hear me better now not really oh there you go now you sound good t Troy Rita. Go ahead, talk to us.
Starting point is 00:13:46 When did you shoot your shot, mama? Okay. So, when I shot my shot, I was working with this guy. And I thought he was just, like, super cute. And I wanted to, like, hang out with him and get to know him. So, I was just like, hey, you know, I'm in treaties. Can I take you out? And he was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So, he gave me his number. And we got to know each other. Of course, we hooked up and had sex and all that stuff. But we got to hang out and I got to know him. And that's what I was after. I wasn't trying to be his wife and all that. But I was intrigued and I wanted to know him. So I asked him out.
Starting point is 00:14:13 He said, yeah. So to me, that worked out for me. So you're not scared to shoot your shot? You guys are still together? No, we ain't still together. So in that sense, it didn't work out. But I wasn't ever trying to be his woman. So it didn't work out in that way. But no, I be his woman, so it didn't work out in that way,
Starting point is 00:14:25 but no, I'm not afraid to reject it. It's like, either they gonna go, they like you, or they not gonna go, so, I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:30 what? You just want to have a little fun with him, see if you can pull a bad bitch. Yeah, exactly. I mean, not necessarily just have fun,
Starting point is 00:14:37 but I just didn't know him, and I liked him enough to want to, like, get to know him, so I was like, hey, like,
Starting point is 00:14:41 you know, let's hang out, let's get to know each other, can I take you out, like, blah, blah, blah, and he was like, yeah, so we did that, we went out, I hung out at his house, I got to know him. So I was like, hey, like, you know, let's hang out. Let's get to know each other. Can I take you out? Like, blah, blah, blah. And he was like, yeah. So we did that. We went out.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I hung out at his house. I got to know him. We still talk to this day, but we're not like together or we don't talk in constantly. But I mean, I still, we still friends on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Okay. Wait, so Rashaun, let me ask you a question. How do you feel about that masculine energy of a woman saying, hey, can I take you out? Not just I want to get to know you, but like, I want to take you on a date.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I don't mind. You would like it? I don't care. I was thinking the same thing. Like, do guys get turned off by women? I am wondering about that. In this new bad bitch era, I think that men are not as turned off by it. I think that there's something psychological there.
Starting point is 00:15:20 No, because if I have it, then I don't feel any way about it. But now if I don't have it. No, no, let's take money. No, no, no. It's not about money. It's just about the intention of a woman saying, hey, I want to take you out. Sure, where we going? It turns me off.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You're not a man. You're not a dude. No, no, no. The idea of it completely turns me off. No. I feel as though if I'm into a guy and I'm in his space, if he is attracted to me, if he's interested, he is going to kick it. If he is not, I am not going to push the envelope
Starting point is 00:15:48 and put myself on a platter for rejection. And I'm further not going to take on like a more masculine energy and say, hey, can I take you out to dinner? But I believe in traditional roles. I like to be courted. Those are things that are important to me. Please stay married
Starting point is 00:16:03 because they're not courting these days. They are not courting. They're calling late. They're leaving me at one o'clock in the morning at the hotel room. But now here's the thing. Do you feed into that energy by becoming the masculine energy in the relationship because that's what their
Starting point is 00:16:20 expectation is? No, because I'm with you. I'm still holding out. I want that masculine energy. Do you know what I mean? Because if I'm still holding out. I want that masculine energy. Do you know what I mean? If I'm masculine towards you, it makes me kind of be a little disrespectful to you. Absolutely. If you allow me to be like that,
Starting point is 00:16:31 I'm going to probably treat you the way you probably intended on treating me. Exactly. No, but you should. I think that there's nothing wrong with taking a man out. There's nothing wrong with saying,
Starting point is 00:16:42 hey, babe, I got tickets to the game today. I'm taking you to the game. No, no, no. I'm not talking about if you're... It's not wrong with taking me to Sizzler.
Starting point is 00:16:47 No, you're misunderstanding me. I'm not talking about if you're already in a relationship. If you're already in a relationship, I love the push-pull, the back and forth
Starting point is 00:16:57 where, you know, you do something kind for me, I reciprocate and I do something kind for you. Not in a tit-for-tat type of way, but whenever it's in the beginning, I, as the woman,
Starting point is 00:17:07 I need to feel that that interest is there. I'm not going to be, you know, buying you gifts. I'm not going to be taking you out to dinner. Not to say if I'm out and I see something cute for you. Yes. If it comes from the heart,
Starting point is 00:17:20 but I'm not going to be doing that to get you to like me. That's why a lot of women are single right there. They see something they want. They see something they like. They better go see what's going on with that thing that they like or see. Because they're not going to see it again. Women, if you see something you like, you go approach that man. Hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:17:34 My name is so-and-so. What's your name? I think you're handsome. Why don't we go out and get some things? There's nothing wrong with that. But if he thought that you were cute, he would have kicked it to you. He might be shy. Well, then that's not that masculine energy that I'm looking for.
Starting point is 00:17:44 You don't want a fly man either, though. Exactly. That's not that masculine energy. If I'm in your space and you see me, you notice me, and I throw you a little flirt like Claudia said that she does. Listen, here's the alley-oop. All you need to do is dunk. I'm here. If you don't kick it to me, you don't look in my
Starting point is 00:17:59 direction, I'm like, oh, he must not be interested. Not every man can dunk. You might be too short. I do think when you do get with a guy like that, you can put it out there, but I'm like, oh, he must not be interested. Not every man can dunk. You might be too short. I do think when you do get with a guy like that, you can put it out there, but I feel like it kind of sets a precedence for the relationship. I'm thinking down the line, do I have to get on one knee to propose to you?
Starting point is 00:18:16 Do I have to protect you? Ladies, don't listen to me. Claudia is single. Claudia, you see a man out there, you better holler. You're on a plane and you see a cute guy. Listen, the world is... I got three more years. Claudia is single. Claudia, you see a man out there, you better holler. You on a plane and you see a cute guy. This isn't about, no. They feel like I'm deaf. Let me tell you something. I got three more years.
Starting point is 00:18:29 The world is tripping on Claudia, okay? Because Claudia got everything. I don't even, the universe is messing with her. It's a test, Claudia. Well, my mother told me that. It's a test. This lady in Italy put a curse on me when I was in the womb, is what I heard. That we always have struggles in relationship.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Wait, that what? My mom, there's a lady in Italy that they said, supposedly, said, my dad left this one lady for my mom and took her to America. And she was like, basically before he left, like, your unborn daughter will forever have issues. Jesus Christ. Yeah, so anyways, I'm only dating if I get a recommendation from a good friend or people that are in successful relationships.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I don't trust my own meter and picker. I don't. I wish we had more time to talk about that. All right. Well, when we come back,
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Starting point is 00:19:22 It's the Breakfast Club on BET. Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper
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