The Breakfast Club - Do You Believe Jason Mitchell

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

Today on the show we opened up the phone lines to see what our listeners thought about Jason Mitchell's allegations after hearing his side of the story when he came the other day for an interview. Als...o, we had investor/ author Ben Horowitz stop by where he spoke about his start up, his book "What you do is who you are" and more. Also, Charlamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to a teacher dressed up as blackface Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
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Starting point is 00:01:45 Y'all are like a mega force. Y'all just took over every... Wake your punk ass up. This is Chris Brown. I've officially joined The Breakfast Club. Say something, mother... I'm with it. The world's most dangerous morning show.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Breakfast Club, bitches. Good morning, Angela Yee. Good morning, DJ Envy. Charlamagne Tha God. Peace to the planet. It's Tuesday. Now you want to come on time today. I'm always on time. I don't know when y'all going to believe me when I tell you that my contract says 6.05. I guess you got to see it to believe it. Because I'm confused with your time. If you're coming at 6 or 6.05, I am no longer doing sports scores. I'm just putting that out there.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Why are you no longer doing sports scores? Because I'm confused. What are you confused about? You're confused that yesterday I told you the Giants was going to lose 30-63 to my Dallas Cowboys and we scored 37? Yeah, but y'all had to win with a black cat. We were up.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Then y'all put a black cat on the field, which is bad luck, and then all of a sudden we start losing. We didn't win with a black cat. We won with a black quarterback. Okay? And a black running back. Alright? I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Black cat. Okay? That black cat had nothing to're talking about. Black cats. Okay. That black cat had nothing to do with anything. Yes, it did. We were up before they put that black cat on the field.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Well, that black cat ran across the field. That black cat must have been running across your field all season. It has. Because y'all are two and goddamn six. All right. But that has nothing to do. Don't steal my joy from my Dallas Cowboys win. I'm not here to talk about your losses.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'm here to talk about our wins. Good morning, Angela. Sadly, they're not one and the same. Well, good morning. Oh, my goodness. Where you at? Well, good morning. Oh, my goodness. Where you at? Well, right now I'm in Houston. You know, I'm on this lip service live tour.
Starting point is 00:03:29 So tonight we are doing lip service live out here with Slim Thug, with Plies, and with Karl Crawford out here in Houston. So, yeah. All right. I've been on a roll. You know how difficult it is to be on a roll with all these women and personalities and having to deal with everything? Y'all not staying in the same room, right? No. to be on the road with all these women and personalities and having to deal with everything. How?
Starting point is 00:03:47 You're not staying in the same room, right? No, but we are traveling together and it's a lot. We all got two suitcases. Somebody's always late. This person's mad at this person. Who's always late? Out of your whole crew, who's always late? Who's the worst person to be on the road with? I would say usually L'Oreal is the last one to come
Starting point is 00:04:03 down. L'Oreal. Nice. She's usually the last one to come down. L'Oreal. Nice. It's usually the last one to come down. You know me, I'm always like super early. Okay. Alright, well let's get the show cracking. Front page news, what are we talking about? I don't like how you just breathe. Oh, we still got to do sports club. Okay. Goodness gracious. We didn't get to that yet. Goodness gracious. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Listen, and being that I'm traveling so much, this report alarmed me and this is about the water on the airplanes and why you should not even wash your hands with that water. All right. We'll get into that next Keep It Locked. And Trav, stop hitting me, Trav. Trav. Trav, stop hitting me, Trav.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Hit Envy as much as you want from the back. Wasn't that the bet? No, it was not the bet. But he did hit me and say, so what's the bet? No, there was no bet, Trav. I thought it was something about hitting from the back. No, there was no bet. No.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I'm positive. No. Call, there was no bet. No. I'm positive. No. Call up and make me remember. No. All right. Even still, the Giants still not the bottom bottom. Y'all at the bottom of the NFC East, but y'all not the bottom bottom. The Redskins are our bottom.
Starting point is 00:04:54 That's our bottom, bitch. All right. All right. Y'all second up, though. Front page news is next. All right. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee,
Starting point is 00:05:05 Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. That song is out of season, by the way. You got to take that out of rotation. It is now. Salute to Meg Dastain.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Salute to Nicki Minaj. But you know, that's what happens when you label a song Hot Girl or something. It's out of season. All right. Well, let's get
Starting point is 00:05:17 in some front page news. All right, Yee, where we starting? I thought you had to do sports. Dallas Beach. And Monday Night Football! The Dallas Cowboys Where are we starting? I thought you had to do sports. Dallas beat the Giants. And Monday Night Football!
Starting point is 00:05:27 The Dallas Cowboys humbly washed the New York Giants 37-18 after Charlamagne Tha God said that they would win 36-3, you know, but the Giants got 15 extra points. The Dallas Cowboys got one extra point than I predicted. But, hey, you know. We were actually winning that game. Nobody cares about what you was actually doing. Once they put that black cat out there, which is a sign of bad luck,
Starting point is 00:05:48 the Giants just lost. You was actually bald two months ago. Now you got a hairpiece. What's that got to do with anything? It's no hairpiece. It's real hair, man. Knock it off, bro. Drop one of Kluze bombs for my Dallas Cowboys, all right?
Starting point is 00:05:58 And I'm very humble about this victory. No, you're not. Just want you all to know we swept the New York Giants this year, too. That's another thing that we need to throw out there. Oh, my goodness. Just want to throw that out there as well. Do we have anything else important to eat? Well, yeah. Let's talk about the water on these airlines. Some of them are so bad that they said you shouldn't even wash your hands with the water. They did an airline water study. They ranked 11 major and 12 regional airlines. Now, it's all ranked on a score of 0 to 5,
Starting point is 00:06:23 with 0 being the lowest, of course. And there's different criteria, like positive E. coli and coliform water sample reports and all kinds of water quality concerns. So they said a score of 3.0 or better means that the airline has relatively safe, clean water. Now, the cleanest water belongs to Alaska Airlines and Allegiant and Hawaiian Airlines as well. But the worst airlines are JetBlue and Spirit. Spirit and JetBlue are the same level? You deserve what you get when you ride Spirit. JetBlue is my favorite airline. I am a
Starting point is 00:06:56 mosaic member of JetBlue. Don't drink that mosaic water. Who does? Who drinks water from the plane on the plane? They said don't even wash your hands with that nasty water. People drink coffee. They drink tea on the plane. So they said the only time you should really have water on board is if it's in a sealed bottle. So when they try to give you a cup of water or if you ask for some tea or for some coffee,
Starting point is 00:07:15 just choose not to do that. Don't wash your hands in the bathroom. It says bring hand sanitizer with you instead. When they usually give you tea or coffee or water or anything with water, they usually take it out the big bottle. I never see them take it out the pitcher. I always see them take it out the bottle. I've never seen them take it to the tap in the plane. That would be crazy. Whenever you have a tea
Starting point is 00:07:31 or coffee, they always do it out of a bottle of Dasani or something like that. But then again, I don't know how spirit rocks. I don't know. I would never know how spirit rocks because my life is amazing. I have no business on spirit. Alright. Alright, now a man was stabbed to death at a Maryland Popeyes after what was an argument over the chicken sandwich. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So the victim was a 28-year-old man. He was stabbed outside the restaurant around 7 p.m. That's right. Yes, they said he was in line for a chicken sandwich when he and another man got into an argument that spilled out into the street, and they believe the argument started over somebody cutting in line. That's dropping the clues, Bon, that Popeye's chicken sandwich. The homicide rate increases as soon as that Popeye's chicken sandwich hits the streets, god damn it.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Guess what race it is? Caucasian. Well, it's a very unfortunate situation because somebody is dead now, so it is an unfortunate situation, but yeah, so that fight was over that. Now, at Buffalo Wild Wings, employees were fired. They told a black family to move to please some of their regular customers, two employees.
Starting point is 00:08:32 It was a family of mostly black people. They were told to move tables because a white couple didn't want to sit next to them. Is that crazy? That is. So as the host was setting up their table, they were told, they said a regular customer at a table of two said he didn't want to be seated next to them because of their race. Wow. So how would we feel if they got stabbed at Popeye's?
Starting point is 00:08:50 If they went to Popeye's and then complained about black people being at Popeye's? We still don't want nobody to die. I didn't say die. You didn't say nothing about getting stabbed, though. Well, they did refuse to move, by the way. So they said it was not okay that a person of management was willing to move six adults and twelve children versus two grown adults who are uncomfortable sitting by black folks. So why'd they move?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Why didn't they tell us that? They didn't. I just said they didn't move. Oh, okay, okay. Like SMD? They refused to move. That's when you let the SMD fly and, you know. That's when you act like Jason Mitchell on the Delta flight. Buffalo Wild Wings said they've been in contact with the family and they offered their deepest apologies for the behavior
Starting point is 00:09:25 by their staff. I need more than apologies. I'm a black family and you're going to make me move at a chicken spot? I'm supposed to be here. You the visitor. Oh my goodness. Well, the employees got fired too. Okay. Oh, that's good. Alright, they should get that black family a lease for a year or so. Is it a race
Starting point is 00:09:42 thing or a regular customer thing though? Well, according to Mary Bell, who was the part of the family, they said they didn't want to sit next to them because of their race, according to Mary Bell, and she said we didn't move. And that is true. We're going to move 18 people, or the two of you, if you don't like something, get up and move yourselves. Yeah, I'm just playing white devil's advocate here
Starting point is 00:10:01 because you said that they were regular. So I'm wondering if it was a situation where it was a regular family that's always there on the regular as opposed to somebody who's not and you want to give your regulars the better seats, right? Well, they got those two employees fired, so there you have it. If they'd have said, I don't want to sit next to a large family with kids running around, I would understand that, but you just can't say, I don't want to sit next to a black family. That's kind of crazy. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I don't know if they actually said that. She said that. I don't know if they actually said that, family. That's kind of crazy. That is crazy. I don't know if they actually said that. She said that. I don't know if they actually said that, though. That would be my excuse as well. You know what I'm saying? But I don't know if they actually said that. All right. Well, that is front page news.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent and hit us up right now. Maybe you had a bad night. Maybe your Giants lost. Or maybe you feel blessed and you want to spread some positivity. 800-585-1051. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. Why can't I create my own country? My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up
Starting point is 00:11:28 their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder you know with explosive warheads. Oh my god. What is that?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,
Starting point is 00:12:17 their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when endorphins you feel after a great workout. Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real inspiring stories from the people, you know, follow and admire,
Starting point is 00:12:37 join me every week for post run high. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt,
Starting point is 00:13:07 learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love. I forgive myself. It's okay.
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Starting point is 00:13:56 Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? This is Ashley. How are you guys this morning? Good morning. Good morning, Ashley. I'm calling from Dayton, Ohio. How are you guys? We are blessed black and highly favored. Well, I'm black.
Starting point is 00:14:16 How you doing? I'm black. You are so extra, Chelle. Everybody's black on the panel. That is not true. On the panel? We are all black. What's up, Ashley? Okay, so my thing is, okay, so I've been dealing with a guy for close to eight years, right?
Starting point is 00:14:31 And it's all good, but my thing is he doesn't want to, like, he keeps saying that I'm wifey. You know that term, like, wifey, right? But my thing is, like, that has to come with something more than words. So, like, what's too long to wait when you're dealing with a guy before you cut it off if it's not marriage? How old are you? I'm 32. Y'all been dating for eight years?
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's been eight years. So what is it that you want? Because it's really more about if you guys are matching up as far as your future together. What does he want and what do you want? Clearly she wants to be the wife. We share a son, okay? So we co-parent pretty good, right?
Starting point is 00:15:08 And I don't know, to me, I just think that he's pushing it back. I feel like if you want something, you'll obtain it, right? And so I think it's excuses like day after day, like, oh, it's not this, it's that. I do want to marry you. We're going to get there soon.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You know, just give me a minute. But I'm like. Let me give you a little hope. Me and my wife have been together. Oh, boy. Since 1998. So whatever the math is, I don't know, 21, 22 years. We've been married five.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Okay. That's all I got for you. So if you, you know, want to wait that long, just stay down. Y'all already share a son, as you said. Right. You make it sound like it's already share a son, as you said. Right. You make it sound like it's an Airbnb. Well, good luck, mama. That's all I got for you.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I share a son. We share a son. Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up, man? This is Antoine, man. Hey, I'm calling from Jacksonville, from Hampton. Duvall. Why you got that deep voice on?
Starting point is 00:16:02 You trying to be all sexy this morning, bro? Oh, you can find him sexy in me? Okay. I like that shirt, Envy. I got to give you that, man. From Hanford. Living Jacksonville. I like that shirt.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Oh, thank you, brother. You can see us? Revolt. Oh, yeah, damn. Yeah, yeah. Black people got Revolt. Okay. That's the only people that got Revolt.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I got it at the bookstore at Hampton. I got it at the bookstore at Hampton, brother. Yeah, I'm going to get me one when I go down at the bookstore here. I got it at the bookstore here, brother. Yeah, I'm going to get me one when I go down at Christmas time. All right, brother. Yeah. I want to give a shout out to my wife, though. Okay. Jasmine Hester.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Just want to tell her I love her. All right, man. That's crazy. That's crazy that you shout out your wife after y'all flirted with each other. I didn't flirt with her. Envy told you you had a sexy voice. You told him you like his shirt. I didn't flirt with that man. Hello, who's this had a sexy voice. You told him you like his shirt. I didn't flirt with that man.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Hello, who's this? This is Cliff. I'm calling from the Bull City. Cliff, what up, man? Get off your chest. What's the Bull City? What's going on? It's out here in Durham, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Raleigh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, got you. Hey, Charlamagne. Yes, sir. How about you cowboys, though? We out here, baby. We out here. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:17:02 All day. Hey, can I shout out my wife right quick? I just want to shout my wife Sheena out. She just had our baby girl on October 22nd. My beautiful wife. Strongest woman I know, man. I want to shout her and my two boys, Elijah and Isaiah out. Y'all have a blessed day.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yes, sir. Bye, Cliff. Today is American Football Day, too. I want to throw that out there. That is a fact. That is a national holiday, American Football Day. So today is a celebration of football. No better way to celebrate
Starting point is 00:17:29 than if your team won last night, 37-18 in the NFL. Get it off your chest. 805-851-051 is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Hello, who's this? This is Cassandra DJ Envy. I heard you say the Giants lost. Uh-oh. Did we win, Charlemagne? Did we win? The Giants won last night. That's a damn lie.
Starting point is 00:18:02 In your face, Cassandra. The Dallas Cowboys, we won 37-18, boo. Okay, so Charlemagne, I need you to do one more game. Please don't talk with the San Francisco and the Cowboy games, okay? And DJ Envy, I heard you talk about Lil' Logan. We're undefeated, but you know where you get those skills, some of those skills from? From Newark, Brick City Lions.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Shout-out to Nassir Games and that coaching staff over there. Westside High School went one game for being undefeated as well. Shout out to them, Jared and the rest of the team. I need you to watch a race in South Carolina with Lindsey Graham and that kid
Starting point is 00:18:38 Jamie, and I can't think of his last name. Could you check that race out? Yeah, I think I'm going to have Jamie up here if he got time. Nice, nice because I heard he's doing his thing down there, so nice, out. Yeah, I think I'm going to have Jamie up here if he got time. Nice. Nice. Because I heard he's doing his thing down there. So, nice, all of you.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Please. Cassandra hears everything. I ain't going to. You talk about Jamie Harrison. He's running for Senate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. Get him up. I do hear everything.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Indy, I told you. I'm telling you. I'm going to ask you. I do a lot out here. I see. All right, guys. All right, Cassandra. We need to get Lindsey Graham up out that Senate seat any goddamn way.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Hello, who's this? Yo, what's up, butterscotch? You flirt with me this morning? I like that. I like that. Today is National Donut Appreciation Day. What's up? What they got to do with butterscotch?
Starting point is 00:19:20 Butterscotch donut? I don't know. A butterscotch donut. Nobody had no butterscotch donut. You'd be making up stuff. I do. I ain't gonna lie. What you want, man?
Starting point is 00:19:28 What's up, Angela Yee? It's your boy, Gary. Hey. We're committing to conversation. What's up, Gary? Chill it, chill it, chill it. I just wanted to call, man. Envy, I swear, bro, you been acting real funny since you got that hair done, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Word is born. You have, bro. You been acting real funny. I'm gonna get you some. What hair products you been using, Envy? Not no damn hair products, man. I tell you. Everybody knows this hair, bro. You have, bro. I'm going to get you some. What hair products you been using, Envy? Not no damn hair products, man. I tell you. Everybody knows his hair, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You know what that is. Y'all just hating. I saw three signs last week. I couldn't get through. You and Trav got something going on, bro. Trav get through no problem, bro. You be banging on me, Envy. And so does Trav.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Trav be banging on Envy, too. Listen, let me tell you something. I was in the barber shop yesterday and I was like, I'm going to go to my dude Willis the barber. I ain't seen my man Ty this week. in the barbershop yesterday, spoke to my dude Willis the barber. I ain't seen my man Ty this week, but I'm seeing him later.
Starting point is 00:20:08 But I saw Willis, and Willis said, so Envy got the, and he said, the real technical name for the toupee. It was like a real technical thing. He said, Envy got the such and such hair plug extension joint. No, no, damn hair plug, man. He said it's so obvious.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Those aren't hair plugs. They're not hair plugs. It's my real hair. I could grow hair. They're not, bro. It's my real hair. I could grow hair. They're not, bro. Y'all jealous. You know why? Your hair is too black.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You know what I used today that Charlamagne hasn't used in years? I used conditioner. Conditioner. When's the last time you used conditioner? So you're trying to tell me conditioner is what made your hair grow like that? No, but I used it this morning. Boy, you just be talking. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Just shut up and tell everybody what it is. It's a wig. It's my real hair. All right. You know what, Jelani, Gary? Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up at any time.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Now, we got rumors on the way. It's a free-for-all. Yes. We are going to be talking about Russell Wilson and Ciara. Find out what their goals are. They're coming for you, Envy. Oh, boy. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:00 We'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Hey, morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Angie Martinez. It's about time. What's going on? Rumor report. Rumor report. This is The Rumor Report. Talk to them.
Starting point is 00:21:24 With Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, please let us keep those prayers going for Angie Martinez. We told you she had a really bad car accident last week. She posted that she had a fractured lumbar and shattered vertebrae. She said she is recovering. Well, I just had a message from Angie Martinez, and she wanted me to let you guys know that she is scheduled for a four-hour surgery today on her vertebrae. She said she's feeling nervous but hopeful and that she will start rehab the second she gets back on her feet. She said she hasn't been able to stand or walk since the accident, but her toes are wiggling, and she does have full feeling in her feet and legs, which is a blessing.
Starting point is 00:22:03 She said doctors are confident in a full recovery, just grateful to have more time. It could have been so much worse. So, again, our prayers are still with you, Angie. We love you so much, and I'm just glad that you do have feeling. I was nervous when they said her vertebrae was shattered and it was a back issue because that could be paralyzing. But fortunately, she's able to wiggle her toes.
Starting point is 00:22:23 She can have feeling in her feet, full feeling in her feet right now, so we're praying for her as she undergoes this four-hour surgery today. Real prayers up for Angie Martinez. Absolutely. Like, when I heard the news yesterday, I definitely got to my knees and said a prayer for her, and I prayed for her, you know, a couple more times yesterday, but put real prayers up. Don't just say, you know, praying for her because it sounds good. Put the prayer hands on social media.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Really get on your knees and send some prayers in the air for Angie Martinez. Absolutely. Alright, and shout out to Meg Thee Stallion. She has her first really big holiday campaign. She is the face of Coach's latest ad campaign. She's starring in the Wonderful All Holiday campaign alongside Yara Shahidi, Kate Moss, Spike and Tanya Lee
Starting point is 00:23:00 and more people. It's the Hot Girl Summer continues for her. So there's pictures of her out right now, and you can see those as she's a model now. It's her first ever fashion campaign. And I'm in Houston right now, so shout out to Meg DeStallion. All right, El Chapo's wife is in talks to join the cartel crew reality show on VH1.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Can you imagine that? So she was recently in Miami for a sit down with them and it was a business meeting but they said according to sources, they're talking about her joining that cast. Emma Carnell I. Spiro is her name. I didn't even know there was a show like that. Yeah, I don't know
Starting point is 00:23:38 what's crazy about it. What's crazy is that VH1 actually has that show. So if they have the show and she can be a part of the cast, why wouldn't she? Why wouldn't you go get a check for your husband's evil deeds? Yeah, well, the show is already in its second season. I just feel like it's, it feels like maybe it's dangerous. I don't know. For who?
Starting point is 00:23:55 All right, for her to just, I don't know. I don't think anybody's going to mess with her. I'm sure he has a lot of enemies, though. Yeah, but this is the U.S. and I'm sure he has a lot of enemies, though. Yeah. But this is the U.S., and I'm sure he has a lot of soldiers out here, too. All right. Now, Gorilla Zoe was arrested in Florida, and that was for domestic violence, according to TMZ. They said he was arrested early Sunday morning after security at La Siesta Resort called cops.
Starting point is 00:24:22 They said they saw him actually get physical with a woman on his hotel room balcony. According to the police report, they said he was trying to shove his girlfriend into the room. When she refused, they said he allegedly pushed her to the ground and that she eventually managed to get away and lock him out on the balcony. And that's when he started punching and kicking the glass door, according to witnesses.
Starting point is 00:24:40 The woman let him back in the room, and that's when they came and saw him pinning down his girlfriend. According to the police report, the cops did break things up. He got off of her, but she started to defend him. She told them that we always drink and argue, nothing more. He's never gotten physical with me. Isn't that what happens when everyone drinks? So she was after all that.
Starting point is 00:24:57 When the police showed up, he told the police, you know who I am. Gorilla Zoe hit him with the you know who I am line. Yeah, that's what TMZ said. Yeah, they said, my name is Gorilla Zoe. You with the you know who I am line. Yeah, that's what TMZ said. Yeah, they said my name is Gorilla Zoe. You know me. I'm a rapper. And he told them also that he was a nice guy as he was being booked. Alright, Rick Rubin and Pharrell, they sat down for an
Starting point is 00:25:13 interview with GQ and they talked about a lot of different things. One thing they talked about was the Blurred Lines copyright lawsuit. That was that song, of course, you know, there was a lawsuit and Marvin Gaye's estate sued them for infringing on the copyright of Got to Give It Up. And Robin Thicke did admit that that was an influence on the song, but they also did not feel they were liable for that copyright
Starting point is 00:25:35 infringement. And here's what Pharrell had to say about that lawsuit. For the most part, what we always try to do was reverse engineer the songs that did something to us emotionally and figure out where the mechanism is in there. And as I said to you before, try to figure out if we can build a building that doesn't look the same but makes you feel the same way. Yeah. I did that in Blurred Lines and got myself in trouble. Stevie Wonder told me, he said,
Starting point is 00:26:00 you got to get the right musicologists in there because juries don't understand it's very technical what you've done all right so yes of course he still feels a way about it he said it actually hurt his feelings um and he would never take anything from anyone he said it was a similar feeling between the two songs but he did not feel that copyright was breached on that record all right russell wilson and sierra they're coming for you, DJ and me, because they are planning on having more kids. They already have three kids, and here's what they have to say.
Starting point is 00:26:32 We're pulling it up. Hold on. One second, two second, three second, four second, five second. No, no audio. All right. Well, they were celebrating their wedding anniversary, and they actually have said that they want to have eight kids. Wow. So they're nowhere near close to what they want to do,
Starting point is 00:26:50 but I'm sure they're still working on it. So they said we'll just go one day at a time, but eight kids. I seen Ciara like two weeks ago, and she was like, you know, she loves having kids, but she was like, Em, you have five. You're always running around. I was like, yeah. So the fact that she wants eight is amazing. I can't do eight.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It's tough with five. I can't do eight. It's tough with five. I can't do eight. You're about to have six. Every year you say, yeah, we're done after this one. I want one more, though. I'm not going to front. And you want to say that again. I want an even number. You know what? Kids just keep me. It just makes me happy. Keeps you young. Keeps me running
Starting point is 00:27:18 around. I love kids. I love going to their games, their swimming lessons, their piano lessons, acting classes. I love meeting their teachers. I love picking them up from school. I love playing cards with them. I love my kids. I'm their swimming lessons, their piano lessons, acting classes. I love meeting their teachers. I love picking them up from school. I love playing cards with them. I love my kids. I'm sorry. And then once you get the six, then you're going to be like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Seven. That's the God number. I need to get that. Seven kids. Then you're going to say eight. Nope. Because I want to even it out again. Nope.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I'm done. All right. Well, that is your rumor report. I'm Angela Yee. We should do a topic about that Gorillazole thing, man. Because does you know who I am ever work? Like, if you're trying to use your face card to get out of something, shouldn't people already know who you are?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Sometimes they might not know who you are, but when you say it, it might work. Yeah, but if you got to tell them you're a rapper, and I would never tell the police I'm a rapper. All that's going to do is make you go to jail faster, especially if they don't know who you are and they're not a fan of your music. And why would I care? And if you're a black man, why would you tell a white cop your name is Gorilla? Anything.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I don't think that'll go well. Well, we don't know if it's a black cop or white cop. I don't know. Maybe it was a black cop and he was like, oh, these brothers probably know who I am. Maybe they cut me some slack. I'm Gorilla Zoe. I think everybody should work hard enough to where when they walk in the room, they don't have to announce. What's Gorilla Zoe's song? Sing the first line. Hood nigga.
Starting point is 00:28:24 All the hoes jocking. Beat steady. Rapping. Middle of the stage. Got the whole have to announce. What's Gorilla Soul songs? Sing the first line. Hood nigga. All the hoes jockeying. Beat steady. Rapping. Middle of the stage. Got the whole club. That's what he should have did. That's what he should have did. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Then the cop would have been like, oh! No, the cop would have been like, man, we got a guy on drugs in here. All right. We got front page news next. What we talking about, Yee? Yes, we're going to talk about a fight that happened, and it ended up being fatal all over this Popeye's chicken sandwich. All right. We'll get into that next. Keep it ended up being fatal all over this Popeye's chicken sandwich.
Starting point is 00:28:46 All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hey, morning, everybody. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get some front-page news.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Where we starting, Yee? With you? Mm-hmm. Don't you have some things to report on? You always do sports first. No, there was no sports last night. In Monday Night Football, the Dallas Cowboys beat the New York Giants 37-18, dropped one of them clues bombs from my Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I told you yesterday the final score was going to be 36-3, but we decided to score one extra point, let the Giants score 15 extra points, you know what I mean, just to make it look good. That's all. But that's a humble victory. I'm humbly – Well, we were winning.
Starting point is 00:29:27 We were winning. We were up in the second quarter, and then somebody released a black cat. A black cat ran across that field, and then when the black cat ran across the field, it was bad luck and we started losing. So you guys brought a black cat to the Meadowlands. You know what else was running across that field? A black quarterback, a black running back,
Starting point is 00:29:43 a black wide receiver named Amari Cooper. We was running all over that field last night. That black cat was the least of your worries. You had to release a black cat. Black cat had a cowboy's helmet on. Had to release a black cat to get the win. Shut up. What else we got, Yee?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Let's talk about these two inmates who escaped a Northern California jail on Sunday. How did that happen? Santos Samuel Fonseca, who's 21, and Jonathan Salazar, 20. They identified a blind spot in their housing unit of the adult detention facility at Monterey County. They cut through the sheetrock and metal screen. They made a hole in the bathroom ceiling
Starting point is 00:30:14 and then they climbed through that ceiling, came down through a hatch that leads to a back door. They kicked the back door open and left the jail on foot. They said there were no employees involved in helping these men escape and these men are considered armed and dangerous. They were awaiting trial on unrelated murder charges and felony offenses. So they are offering a $5,000 reward for information leading to the capture of these men.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Just as an FYI, if anything happens. All right, now, on certain airlines, they said the water is so bad that you should not even wash your hands with it. Why would you be even, say, drinking water on the airline? Sometimes people have tea, they have coffee. So they say you should not do that. And only water you should have is if it comes from a bottle. So just whatever you do on a plane, if you don't know where that water is coming from, you don't see them pour that water out of a bottle, you should not have that water.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Now, what they said as far as the worst airlines when it comes to the quality of the water, that was Spirit and JetBlue. I'm a JetBlue guy. I'm a Mosaic member on JetBlue. How much water are y'all using on the plane? Like, the most I might use water on the plane is when I wash my hands after I pee. And how many times are you peeing during a flight?
Starting point is 00:31:20 Depends on how much water you drink. It shouldn't be that many, but I've never said I'm going to drink some water from the faucet in the plane. When you order tea and coffee on the plane, they don't give you no tap. It's bottled, yes. You can clearly watch them take it out the bottle. Absolutely. So, like, what are you doing on the plane?
Starting point is 00:31:34 How much water are you actually using on a plane? But they said don't even wash your hands with that. And they said bring hand sanitizer. So that's just something to think about. Most of y'all don't wash your hands anyway because you're nasty. So, whatever. Alright, Apple has pledged $2.5 billion towards combating California's housing disaster. They have revealed
Starting point is 00:31:52 a plan to help ease the housing and affordability crisis in that state. They say it could be helped by drawing more workers to California. And with the increasing number of workers coming to California to work at these tech companies, the cost of the living in the area has soared. So that's been an issue right now. So they want to put a billion dollars toward
Starting point is 00:32:09 a fund that will be run alongside state officials that will help push affordable housing projects to completion. And that will provide the state and others with an open line of credit to develop and build additional new, very low to moderate income housing faster and at a lower cost. So yes, and they also want to provide financial assistance to first-time homebuyers in nursing, teaching, policing, or firefighting professions. Just to name a few of those industries they feel like they need to make sure they have housing. So, there you have it. All right. Well, that is your front page news.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Now, when we come back, Jason Mitchell, you know, actor. He was in Straight Outta Compton, also in The Chi. He was let go. So yesterday he came. We had a conversation with him and he talked about a lot. It was trending yesterday on social media. So many people were talking about it. So let's play a clip of what he said yesterday. Is Jason Mitchell guilty of any of the allegations against him? No, no. Well, I'm not really sure. I'm not going to say I'm not guilty of any allegations
Starting point is 00:33:07 because I don't know exactly what the allegations are, if that makes sense. You know what I mean? It means you made some women feel uncomfortable by being overly aggressive. Well, yeah. I'm definitely guilty of that. If that's what's in question, then yes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:22 If I jumped out and made anybody feel some kind of way or intimidated or anything like that, yes, I may be guilty of that. And I'm working on that every day. All right. Well, let's talk about it. Let's get your thoughts on the interview yesterday, what he had to say, his explanations and all that. All right? 800-585-1051.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So we're just getting people's feedback on the interview. Getting their feedback and their opinion after seeing the interview, watching the interview, listening to the interview, and then we'll talk about it when we come back.
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Starting point is 00:36:50 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the breakfast club talk about it morning everybody is dj envy angela yee charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast club now if you just joined us yesterday jason mitchell actor he was in straight out of compton also the shy he stopped through yesterday uh and it was trending. The interview was trending. If you don't know, he was let go from The Chi. He was let go from Desperados. His management and agent let him go as well.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Nobody knew what was going on. Everybody would just assume that it was some type of... Sexual misconduct. Sexual misconduct. Or some type of misconduct, we should say. So he came yesterday. And let's play a clip of what he had to say. Is Jason Mitchell guilty of any
Starting point is 00:37:48 of the allegations against him? No, no. Well, I'm not really sure. I'm not going to say I'm not guilty of any allegations because I don't know exactly what the allegations are, if that makes sense. You know what I mean? But you made some women feel uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:38:03 by being overly aggressive. Well, yeah. I'm definitely guilty of that. If that's what's in question, then yes. You know what I mean? If I jumped out and made anybody feel some kind of way or intimidated or anything like that, yes, I may be guilty of that. And I'm working on that every day. So 800-585-1051. We're just asking your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Did you hear the interview? I heard the clip that you just played right now. I wasn't there for it. But I do remember Tiffany Boone speaking out and saying that and they were talking about how she had to have her fiance on set because she felt unsafe with him there. And that she actually asked to be let out of her contract to go and pursue other things. And Lena Waithe, when she was on The Breakfast Club, even said that she had a FaceTime conversation with Tiffany Boone. And she said that she felt awful that that was her experience on the set and that she wished that she had had a little bit more power. And I remember the showrunner, Ayanna Floyd, had told The Hollywood Reporter that everyone was aware of Jason's behavior and his multiple HR cases. So it was a few different people, some of his co-stars,
Starting point is 00:39:07 that had complained about his behavior. Well, Ayanna got fired by HR because she wasn't supposed to be talking to Jason Mitchell, but she, you know, said something that set Jason Mitchell off. So she ended up getting fired because of that. Yeah, I mean, Jason yesterday said that. That doesn't mean that what she said wasn't true, right? She got fired for not, she shouldn't have spoke on it. Well, no, that's what Jason got fired for.
Starting point is 00:39:25 He got fired for cursing Ayanna out. Mm-hmm. Yeah, after she spoke to him when she wasn't supposed to speak to him. Now, Jason said that he had no clue and no idea that her boyfriend was on set because. For him. He just thought that she was on set, that they were actually cool is what he said. And he said he believed that she left because she had a better opportunity. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:45 What are your thoughts? To be honest with you, I have no idea, nor will I play judge, jury, or executioner in the court of public opinion with that man's career. It pains me to see people say he's definitely lying. Like, I don't understand how we can say he's definitely lying. Like, how do we know? He was never accused of sexual misconduct. It was misconduct and inappropriate behavior He admitted that he has
Starting point is 00:40:07 Severe anger issues He admitted that he talked To some of these women crazy And you can see where he made them feel uncomfortable So I don't I don't know what more you want from him And just behind the scenes And hopefully some of these people
Starting point is 00:40:21 Say these things publicly But I've heard quite a few people who worked with him on these sets and they said that he deserves a second chance because he's not a monster. Right. So I'm like that's the type of stuff that needs to be said publicly. My only thing is this right and you know how this world is especially social media world.
Starting point is 00:40:37 If I say I did nothing or what I did was just this it would have came out by now after that interview right? I think that Tiffany Boone, I think Ayanna, I think a lot of different people would have spoken out after yesterday. And they still might. I mean, that was so much. Yeah, give them a minute.
Starting point is 00:40:53 It was just happy yesterday. It's only a day, but, you know, the Hollywood Reporter reached out to Showtime for comment, and Showtime had no comment, which is kind of weird. If you fire somebody for inappropriate conduct, I would think that you would have a statement to make, right? I would think they also might want to speak with Tiffany Boone and the other cast members who had filed some complaints
Starting point is 00:41:14 before they make a statement. Maybe they want to get it together and take more than one day to do that. So maybe they are going to respond. The network should already have it together. They fired him. Yeah, they fired him. They should have had those. The paper trail. You got HR him. Yeah, they fired him. They should have had those. The paper trail.
Starting point is 00:41:25 You got HR complaints. Hello, who's this? Hi, this is Chelsea from the Bronx. Hey, Chelsea, what did you think of Jason Mitchell's interview? I feel like he wasn't being honest because one minute he was saying he didn't know what the allegations were against him. And then the next minute he said he understood and takes accountability for it. So it just didn't add up to me. Well, he said he doesn't know what he was accused of.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Like, he didn't know what the actual charge was, the reason he was fired. But he says he, I guess he was saying that some of his, the way that he spoke to women and the way he spoke to people was wrong. So he's taking accountability for that. He definitely said that. But, you know, my whole thing is. I just want to give us more to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:03 My whole thing is I'm not leaving anywhere unless you tell me why I'm leaving. Like, you can't just fire me and be like, I'm fired because of no reason. No, I need to know a reason. So you're just going to sit there? Yeah, no, you're not going to just fire me. Yes, I'm just going to sit here until you tell me why.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Then they're going to have security remove you. Now you look really crazy. But you just can't fire somebody for no reason. Just be like, we fired. We don't like you. They do it all the time, baby. When? I mean, on them sets like that,
Starting point is 00:42:25 Andy said Desperado paid him. Well, that's different. Desperado paid him and said that. That's letting you know, like, okay, really, it might not have been really much of nothing. Bless you. It really might have been much of nothing. I think he did exactly what he said he did, which was yell and scream and curse people out. And that can definitely make women feel uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:42:43 All right. Well, thank you for your call, Chelsea. Thank you. 800-585-1051. We're talking Jason Mitchell. He was on the show yesterday. And we're just asking, what are your thoughts? All right, we'll play clips when we come back.
Starting point is 00:42:54 If you missed it, it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. It's topic time. Pick up the phone, baby. Call 800-585-1051 to join in to the discussion with The Breakfast Club. Talk about it. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 00:43:13 We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you missed it, Jason Mitchell was on the show yesterday. We were talking about why he got fired, everything that happened with him. So let's play a clip of what he said. Is Jason Mitchell guilty of any of the allegations against him? No, no. Well, I'm not really sure. I'm not going to say I'm not guilty of any allegations
Starting point is 00:43:35 because I don't know exactly what the allegations are, if that makes sense. You know what I mean? But you made some women feel uncomfortable by being overly aggressive. Well, yeah, I'm definitely guilty of that. If that's what's in question, then yes. You know what I mean? It means you made some women feel uncomfortable by being overly aggressive. Well, yeah, I'm definitely guilty of that. If that's what's in question, then yes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:58 If I jumped out and made anybody feel, you know, some kind of way or intimidated or anything like that, yes, I may be guilty of that. And I'm working on that every day. All right, well, let's go to the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Hello, who's this? Yo, this is Maxine. Maxine, good morning. Good morning, Envy. How are you, family?
Starting point is 00:44:11 I'm doing well, family. Now, we're talking Jason Mitchell. What are your thoughts? My thoughts are I don't know what it was with you and Charlamagne yesterday. I felt like y'all didn't impress them enough. Like, I don't feel like we're any closer to the truth today than we were last week. Like, I feel like y'all went too easy on him. Can I ask y'all a question?
Starting point is 00:44:29 What is pressing? What is pressing to y'all? Other than asking all the questions that need to be asked, what is pressing to y'all? I mean, like, put some pressure on him. Put some Charlamagne on him. You know how you do. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I think we ask him everything, but, I mean, you can't force a question. If he's answering the truth or a lie, that's his way of answering. We weren't there. I mean, I wasn't on set at the shot. I wasn't on the set at this rattle, so all I can do is. I understand that, but, like, but don't you think that with two different stories floating around and it was enough for this man to actually lose his job?
Starting point is 00:45:03 Like, what actually happened? We asked him. And these women did file complaints. I wonder if he knew that they were filing complaints against him. He filed complaints against some of the women, too. That's the thing. Like, we asked him all of those questions. Like, just because you don't get an admission of guilt or because you're looking for some confirmation bias
Starting point is 00:45:19 because you think he's guilty and you want him to say, yes, I did X, Y, and Z, that don't mean he didn't get asked the questions. Like, I don't know, you don't just depress the guy and, hey, tell us, Jason, everything you know right now, please. I just feel like everything we've been seeing in Hollywood, I do feel like a lot of people get away with a lot of things, and then when you get terminated by your agent, your manager,
Starting point is 00:45:37 and your lawyer and the shows, maybe there's more to it that we don't know about. Yeah, but he answered all that. He told us the reason why he left Desperados. He said it was an awkward situation. They paid him. So he said to fight it, he just took the money and said, you know what, I'll just keep going back to my other job, you know. He said he thought
Starting point is 00:45:53 about suing. He said he thought about suing, but he said they paid him off and he was like, you know what, I'll just go do my other job, which was the shy. And he said with the shy, it was weird. He said the lady said something disrespectful to him. He reported it. She, you know, she got reprimanded. She wasn't supposed to talk to him. And she got fired, too.
Starting point is 00:46:08 She went and talked to him. And then when she went to talk to him, he cursed her out. So he said that that was the only altercation that he thought of on the Shai set. You know, we can't go back and be like, no, that's not true. Because we weren't there. And she got fired, too. Like, we don't know what the truth is. Like, you just got to let people tell their stories.
Starting point is 00:46:23 It's like if Tiffany Boone wanted to come up and tell her story, she could. If Ayanna wanted to tell her story, she could. We still don't know what the truth is. You just got to let people tell their stories. It's like if Tiffany Boone wanted to come up and tell her story, she could. If Ayanna wanted to tell her story, she could. We still don't know what the truth would be. Hello, who's this? Shantasia. Hey, Shantasia. What are your thoughts? My thoughts is that he is a very arrogant man.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I feel like he's an aggressive man towards females, and if he had a real man to talk to, he would not disrespect him like that. I feel like he needs to quit it. And whatever happens to him and his job, he deserves it. I feel like he was straight up lying to y'all on work club yesterday. Now, I'm going to tell you something. He definitely will talk to a man like that. You should go watch the Delta Airlines video.
Starting point is 00:46:57 When he said, he told the man, I will bat you or something. There's some type of New Orleans slang. I will bat the shit out of you. All right? Well, then that makes me feel a little bit better. But you can't feel unsafe at work either. Like, you don't want to feel unsafe. Yeah, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:17 It is, you know, I don't know what happened at work, you know, because if somebody was not supposed to talk to me and they come talk to me anyway, I might tell them to go F themselves. You're not supposed to be talking to me anyway. So I don't have a problem with that. And same with the death. If I pay $7,000 for a first class ticket, if I pay $7,000 for a first
Starting point is 00:47:36 class ticket and you put me to the back of the plane, I don't care who you are. You're not going to make me move anywhere. I'm cursing you out. Now, how does a first class flight cost $7,000? We asked that too. We don't know. He said it was last anywhere. I'm cursing you out. Now, how does a first class flight cost $7,000? We asked that too. We don't know. He said it was last minute.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I don't know about that. You know, thank you. No, no. You're very true. You're very true. That's very true. Like, you cannot be in a workplace like you in the street. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:06 The way you may talk to somebody in the street is not the way you talk to somebody in the workplace. But the problem is some of the things that they're saying, he's aggressive and he's this, was not in the workplace. You know, he was on a Delta flight, minding his business. He's in the street. If somebody disrespects you, I can't curse them back out because you're disrespecting me. But you know the era we live in. We live in an era where once you're trying to paint a narrative
Starting point is 00:48:20 about a person, you start going to pick and choose all these little pieces of their life to say this is the type of person that they are. You want to see me curse somebody out? Me pay $7,000 for a first class seat and put me in the back by the bathroom. I want to know how much you pay for them hair plugs. I didn't pay nothing for them hair
Starting point is 00:48:34 because I'm about to curse you out now. You should because it looks super stupid today. No, it's not, man. Because today it looks very high in the middle like you got a mohawk. I got a blue brush on here. And then it looks flat on the side. Where's your brush?
Starting point is 00:48:43 I know you got a brush, man. You brushed your hair, man. Where's your brush? I know you got a brush, man. You brush your hair, man. Where's your brush? You need to curse out whoever gave you them hair plugs. There's no hair plugs. You know, Tory Lanez said he'll do free features for Tiger for the rest of his life because Tiger gave him the hair plugs. Look, man, look.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I'm brushing my coat marks. You know what? Anyway, 800-585. What's the moral of the story, you asses? I don't know the moral of the story. I really don't know anything about this situation. I have no idea. And I'm not about to play judge, jury, executioner in the
Starting point is 00:49:10 court of public opinion with people's careers, man. It really bothers me when I see people say things like, he's definitely lying. Just like it would bother me when I see somebody would say, Tiffany Boone is definitely lying. Like, we don't know. We don't know. I would just say one thing just to add on
Starting point is 00:49:26 to you. Jason, you know you're a good brother, but you're a damn fool for paying $7,900 for a flight from New Orleans to Vegas. That's how you know you're an a**hole. Only an a**hole would pay that much money to go see Floyd Mayweather fight. Goodness gracious. Vegas? That's a trip to Africa.
Starting point is 00:49:41 You go pay $7,000 to go to Vegas to see Floyd Mayweather fight? Boy, you need therapy for real. Dee, we got rumors on the way? Yes, let's talk about Chrissy Teigen and John Legend. They actually did a polygraph test on each other and got to ask all kinds of questions, and you get to hear it. They play too much.
Starting point is 00:49:58 All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. D-J-N-V, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, if you haven't seen thevy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you haven't seen the full Jason Mitchell interview, you can check it out on our YouTube page,
Starting point is 00:50:09 and you can come up with your own conclusions and decisions from there. Yeah, and always remember, man, there's three sides to a story. And so far, we've really only heard, I guess, one side? Yeah. I guess Ayanna had a side, but then I didn't know Ayanna got fired because she violated the HR situation. I don't know, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I wish the best for everybody. Okay. Now, we got rumors on the way. What are we talking about? Yes, we are going to be talking about John Legend and Chrissy Teigen and the two of them. Actually, they did a lie detector test. Would you be scared to do that with your significant other? All right.
Starting point is 00:50:41 We'll talk about it when we come back. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. All right. Good morning. Alright. Hate crime. When a victim does something because of their membership in a certain social group or race. Morning, everybody. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Our producer, who is Caucasian, just came in here and threw a pen at me, and I'm trying to figure out if it was a hate crime, because he only threw it at me. He ain't throw it at nobody else. You are not going to make hate crime sound that petty. Oh, alright. Well, he threw a pen at me. But anyway, morning, everybody. You are not going to make hate crime sound that petty. All right, well, you threw a pen at me. But anyway, morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:51:08 We are The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Chrissy Teigen. This is the rumor report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Well, this was pretty funny. For Chrissy Teigen and John Legend, they did Vanity Fair for the cover,
Starting point is 00:51:29 and they had to do a polygraph test with each other. You would do this? Eight years ago? No way. Now? Yeah, why not? Eight years ago? No way. Ten years ago? No way. All right, well, here's how it went. A lot of Hollywood couples get together for publicity.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Is our relationship just a really long, convoluted publicity stunt to get you more Twitter followers? I have more Twitter followers than you, so no. I actually have more than you. You have way more Instagram followers than me, though. F***. Would you still love me if I couldn't sing? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Would you still love me if I wasn't sing? Yes. Okay. Would you still love me if I wasn't rich? Yes. Okay. Good answer. Even though we're married, do you still find other men attractive? Yes. That's a fair question. Of course you find other men attractive still, right?
Starting point is 00:52:18 Yeah. And it goes on. I didn't ask you, MBE. Oh, wow. Are you all going to use that clip? Great. Thanks. Oh, my gosh Are y'all going to use that clip? Great. Thanks. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Why did you just chime in? I was like, she said, yeah. Like I was giving you a lie detector test. Go ahead, man. Yes, correct. All right. So here's some more of their lie detector test. Your song, All of Me, mentions curves, edges, perfect imperfections.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Now, that song is about me, correct? That is correct. What are my imperfections? Um, what do you mean? What frustrates you about me? When you don't laugh at my jokes. Tell a joke. Good answer.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Is it my feet? See, that's the problem with those tests, right? See, oh, now you have a problem with it. He asked generic questions. Will you still love me if I was broke? Would you love me if I wasn't a singer? She's asked a detailed question. So what are my imperfections?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Do you not like my feet? See, that's where it goes too far. Why is that too far? They're having fun my feet? See, that's where it goes too far. Why is that too far? They're having fun with it. No, that's not fun. So now you don't want to do it? Actually, on the KC Crew podcast, you guys should do that. You should bring in a lie detector test.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I'm going to do it. We're going to do it. Absolutely. I would do that. It would be fun. My feelings might get hurt a little bit. But it's all right. It would be fun.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Gia, what do you think his imperfections are? See, I don't want to play this game. Hair plugs. Hair plugs. I ain't got no damn hair plugs. Okay. Now, Chrissy Teigen is also launching her new favorite website and YouTube channel. It's going to be your favorite also.
Starting point is 00:53:58 It's Cravings, and it's a website inspired by her cookbooks, her kitchen and tabletop collection, and all of that. You can hear all about her love of cooking. And she did do the announcement in a YouTube video with John Legend, of course, and her kids, Luna and Miles. I've been wanting to do a real website where it was a true community of people that love cravings, love the cookbooks, love the cookware. Just a place where you can see everything that is our family. We wanted to share everything in one little spot for you guys. I love it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I love seeing black love. I love seeing couples together and families together. I just love seeing it. She said, I'm very proud to do this for you. And John is proud to pay for it. All right. Centolia Brown has been barred from being around her stepson, and that's because of her criminal conviction. She has to stay away from her 11-year-old stepson. A judge recently granted a restraining order
Starting point is 00:54:46 that was filed by the mother, Stacy Kirkland, who has a son with Jamie Long, her husband, who is also a former Pretty Ricky member, and a Christian rapper who she married while she was in prison. They said that she is extremely concerned about the safety of her son and does not believe he will take proper measures to protect the child from danger. So that is what the judge did approve, according to documents obtained by BOSIP.
Starting point is 00:55:08 That's whack. All right. Is it? I think so. She just served, what, 12, 15 years in prison. She came out. She changed her life. She served 15 years.
Starting point is 00:55:17 She's talking about all the change that she's done in time. She's trying to help women and girls that had the same problem that she had as a younger kid or younger child. And now when she's married, she's moved on and now her stepson, she can't see or she can't be with. It's hard for me to tell people what to do and who their kids can and can't be around, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:37 It does feel like maybe it's a little petty. And it seems more about the husband than her. As a mother and you guys and you, Envy, as a parent, you are extra cautious over your kids. I am extra cautious, but if me and my wife didn't work out or something happened and my wife was with another man, I would have to believe my wife has enough sense and trust in her where she would pick somebody that will be great to our kids, though.
Starting point is 00:55:59 You know what I mean? Yeah, it sounds like a little petty situation. All right, Kellen Winslow Jr. has pleaded guilty to raping an unconscious woman. He is a former NFL star, and he did cut a plea deal with prosecutors in his serial rape case involving five different accusers. Back in June, he was convicted on four criminal charges, but the jury was deadlocked on eight remaining charges. He's due back in San Diego court for a retrial on the eight remaining counts. But he did cut a plea deal where he pled guilty to two counts, sexual battery and rape of unconscious person in exchange for that plea.
Starting point is 00:56:33 The remaining six charges were dropped, and that's a big deal for him. He was facing a life sentence if he was convicted on those six counts. Instead, now he is facing between 12 and 18 years in prison. They will have that hearing scheduled for February 19th. I didn't understand that. I didn't understand that. If he raped five women, why are we giving him a plea deal? Why are we allowing him after maybe seven years, if he has to do 85% of the time,
Starting point is 00:56:55 eight years to be able to come out and be free after raping five women? No, let him sit there for life. Let him get raped. Right. He was due back for a retrial, and I guess he cut that plea deal, so he doesn't have to do that. But listen, you should always be held accountable for what it is that you did. As for the two guilty pleas, it involves a Jane Doe No. 1,
Starting point is 00:57:16 who is a 54-year-old woman who says that he raped her in his Jeep in 2018, and the other count was rape of an unconscious person involving Jane Doe number four who claimed that he raped her at a party in 2003 when she was 17 and he was 19. Previously he had denied all of these allegations and he said he was going to prove his innocence but now during the hearing that happened yesterday he begged the judge
Starting point is 00:57:38 to give him the minimum sentence of 12 years so that he could see his family. Now he did it in 2003 and he did it in 2018 so he's always been doing it, right? That's what that says, correct? It doesn't seem like he's changed and evolved much. Leave his ass in jail. Let him get raped in jail.
Starting point is 00:57:54 All right. Well, that is your rumor report. I'm Angela Yee. Thank you, Miss Yee. Get women drunk and rape them? Mm-mm. Sick, sick, sick. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Well, thank you, Miss Yee. All right. Now, when we come back, we got donkey of the day. So don't move. Sick, sick, sick. All right. Well, thank you, Miss Yee. All right. Now, when we come back, we got donkey of the day. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There's 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. There are 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Capraburg.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tried my country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:58:51 Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-A-Stan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going.
Starting point is 00:59:24 That's what my podcast Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:00:09 As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:01:07 Apple Podcasts, or that shit around your eyes. They want this man to throw them blows, man. They wait for Charlemagne to tap these gloves. Let's go. They had to make a judgment of who was going to be on the Donkey of the Day. They chose you. The Breakfast Club, bitches. Who's Donkey of the Day today?
Starting point is 01:01:39 Donkey of the Day for Tuesday, November 5th, goes to a white teacher at a California high school named David Carter. Now, I have to salute my guy, comedian Neil Brennan, okay? Drop on the clues bombs for Neil Brennan. That's one of my favorite white people. All right, on October 26th at 4.33 p.m., Neil Brennan tweeted out, somewhere a white person is planning a costume for tonight that's going to F up their whole future. Now, Neil, even though he is the negro
Starting point is 01:02:06 whisperer is as white as it gets okay unapologetically white i'm telling you all of this because white people white people why didn't you listen to one of your own when one of your own who understands black culture better than you because he actually has black friends and works with black people when one of your own warns you of the random act of caucasianness that you are about to do to ruin your future why don't you listen huh david carter is one of those people who didn't listen because on halloween david carter decided to dress up as one of his favorite rappers a rapper who isn't even a character like it's plenty of rappers who have characters, personas that make for great Halloween costumes. In fact, you could be
Starting point is 01:02:48 these people and not have to apply blackface because everybody would know who you are. For example, early 2000s Lil Jon. You would know who that is without blackface, right? Correct. Tupac Shakur. You would know who that is without blackface. Yep. Put a bandana on, put a Thug Life tattoo on your stomach. Rick Ross! You know what I'm saying? Put the beard on,
Starting point is 01:03:04 the shades, walk around going, huh. People wouldn't know who you are without blackface. Any of the Migos. Okay, you could be any of those rap characters without the blackface, and people wouldn't know who you are. But David Carter decided to be a rapper that even with blackface, nobody would know who the hell he is. If you saw a white person in blackface dressed as this rapper,
Starting point is 01:03:22 you would probably call the police. You know how they say, see something, say something? You know, when something looks suspicious, nothing would look more suspicious as a white guy dressed as this rapper in blackface. Well, who did David Carter decide to offend black people by being on Halloween? Let's go to KPIX CBS 5 for the report, please. And a South Bay teacher on leave tonight for an astonishing choice of Halloween attire. Video posted to Twitter appears to show a teacher in front of the class wrapping out a lesson in blackface. Opportunities limitless. Possibilities senseless. What will you do? Millions of people not enough
Starting point is 01:03:58 to eat. What will we do? With AI, Microsoft technology, the future is up to you. You can do it with AI. The future will blow your mind. This apparently happened at Milpitas High School back on Halloween. The person who posted the video wrote that the educator is white. The school and the district sent out a joint statement today saying in a school community where we welcome learners and families who represent cultures and religions throughout the world it hurts to know that this type of cultural insensitivity and lack of cultural awareness still hovers in the background the school board president also sent out a statement saying as an african-american man the history of
Starting point is 01:04:38 blackface reminds me of the cruelty hatred and fear my parents and people African ancestry have dealt with in the past and still experience today around the world the actions were inappropriate and professional and insensitive and I've asked the superintendent to ensure an immediate investigation is conducted Emmy award-winning Grammy award-winning Oscar award-winning actor rapper producer activist common now if you was watching revolt tv you saw the video uh david i don't think you meant to offend i don't think your intention was to offend but you should be treated like you knew that you were going to offend people and that was
Starting point is 01:05:17 your intention simply because insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results why people are you insane clearly you are not to mention you didn't look like common okay you look like a white power neo-nazi skinhead with a turtleneck on the reason i say you're insane is because why do we keep doing this every halloween okay for you to be doing something like blackface that's considered racist and to dress up like Common and end up looking like a white-powered neo-Nazi skinhead, that doesn't seem like a stretch at all. Now, David has been put on administrative leave, but that's not enough. He has to be fired. And he has to be fired for making the same mistake that we see white people do year after year.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Why do you have to push the limits of your privilege every Halloween? Is this a way to test your white superpowers? Okay. If you can dress up in blackface on Halloween and get away with it, do you reach super scion Caucasian levels? Okay. Not to mention, why couldn't you get your message across about limitless opportunities in the
Starting point is 01:06:23 future of AI without blackface? And what does common have to do with any of this what does common have to do with artificial intelligence nick our cameraman says common is the spokesperson for microsoft oh okay i'll take his word for it uh some donkey of the days just sell themselves please let kathy griffin give david carter the biggest hee-haw. Please give this giant jar of mail the biggest hee-haw. And furthermore, white people, if you're going to do blackface, please don't do any bald-headed black people because you look like a skinhead. Like, it's just not. Why? Why? All right. Well, thank you for that donkey of the day. Now, when we come back, we have a very special guest in the building. Is he a billionaire?
Starting point is 01:07:08 Ben Horowitz is not a billionaire. I don't know. Let me do some more research. Either way, he's filthy rich. Yeah, he's filthy rich, regardless. I have no way to be honest. His net worth is $3.5 billion. See?
Starting point is 01:07:20 So he's a billionaire. Yes. All right. So he'll be joining us this morning. He has a new book that's out right now. It's called you do what's wrong what you do is who you are it's who you are yep so we'll kick it with him when we come back find out how he made his riches and just talk to him right it's the breakfast club come on the breakfast club morning everybody it's dj envy angela yee charlamagne. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Yes, indeed. Ben Horowitz. Welcome, sir. All right. What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? Tell the people a little about you, man. Who is Ben Horowitz? I grew up in the East Bay, Berkeley, California, right next to Oakland. So I came up in kind of that thing. I, you know, I went to school, became an engineer, and became a CEO, then started a venture capital firm, and, you know, wrote a couple books,
Starting point is 01:08:11 one called The Hard Thing About Hard Things, and then the new book, What You Do Is Who You Are. Yes, indeed, How to Create Your Business Culture. Yes, yes, yes. Tell us about your new book, man. How does this differ from the last book, The Hard Thing About Things? Yeah, so it's way different. So this is about culture um and uh you know to get into culture culture is a very complicated subject you know particularly when you're talking about running an organization
Starting point is 01:08:34 because it's about what people do how they move um you know do they return a phone call do they show up on time you know these kinds of things so it's not something that, like, they do when you're there. It's what they're doing when you're not there. And so, like, how do you set that culture and how do you make it move is what the book is about. So I had to go kind of deep into a lot of things. Went back to the Haitian Revolution. Went to prison, went to the Samurai, the Way of the Samurai, and Genghis Khan to try and get to the bottom of the issue. Very various people, right?
Starting point is 01:09:15 That's a lot of different type of people. Yeah, yeah, a lot of different type of people for different types of reasons. You talk about the culture in prison, in particular with Shaka Senghor. He's been up here as well before. Yeah, Shaka. That's my guy. And how you really do have to make these decisions based on what will happen if I show certain weaknesses. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:34 So, like, let me give you an example of that. So I was talking to Shaka, and he's telling me, he goes, look, when I got to prison, they had a bunch of us in quarantine, and that's what they keep you in right before you go into general pop. So first day in general population, we're in the rec area, and a prisoner walks up to another prisoner and stabs him in the neck with a shank, throws the shank in the trash, goes to the cafeteria, and has a sandwich.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And I look at that, and I'm like, whoa, can I do that? And I go, man, Shaka, you killed a guy to get in prison. You did that. And he goes, no, I didn't do that. So what I did was I'm in a drug deal. Guy jumps out of a car. I have a gun in my pocket. I react.
Starting point is 01:10:22 I shoot him. He said, this guy spent like two weeks taking a two liter bottle, filing it into a weapon, and then decided, am I going to stab this guy in the stomach and wound him? Or am I going to stab him in the neck and kill him? And then he stabs him in the neck, keeps it moving to the
Starting point is 01:10:37 chow hall, and has a sandwich. I couldn't do that. Yeah, one is self-preservation. That's what I think the shocker situation was. The other one was cold-blooded murder. Cold-blooded murder. And so he said, look, I had to ask myself, because that's what it took to win in here. That's what it took to survive. And so, you know, you look at that and you go, that's how that culture gets set. That's new employee orientation.
Starting point is 01:10:58 That's how it is when you walk in. You know, and a lot of people, that's what it is, man. That's how you get oriented. And, you know, people don't come into prison as violent as they get because they get into that culture. And, you know, that happens and that happens with people running companies at a less violent scale. But, you know, people set their values on the wall and all that kind of thing. Nobody pays attention to that. But your first day on the job, you walk in and you go, how do I get ahead here?
Starting point is 01:11:25 And you see the person getting paid the most and you see them taking credit for somebody else's work. You adapt that. You get oriented the same way. Now, you were talking about, I was watching a seminar you were talking about, a conversation. You were talking about culture versus perks. Yeah. Now, explain that a little bit. Well, you know, look, a lot of people at their companies, they'll be like, oh, we have yoga classes.
Starting point is 01:11:46 You know, we have dogs at work. Google has amazing perks when you go to Google. Yeah, Google, yeah, the lunch area. You know, and those are good, but that's not culture. You know, that's not who you are. That's not how you represent in the world. You don't, like, represent, like, I'm yoga. Like, you know, if you're from Google, what people know about you, did you get back to them?
Starting point is 01:12:06 Did you deliver what you were supposed to? All that kind of stuff. That's your real culture. And so I think people just get distracted. They think they have culture because they have special perks that people like. But that's a different thing. You know what else is interesting? When you talk about these conversations about culture, culture can't be monolithic, right?
Starting point is 01:12:23 Because there's all of these subcultures within a culture. That's a really, really, really good point. And there's subcultures within a culture, and then sometimes you try and bring in a culture to change it. I'll give you an example of that. So Amazon is kind of known as one of the best cultures in technology business in terms of how they scale and how they run it. They do a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And people like working there. People from my world really like working there. But then there was a New York Times article a bit back where this guy, David Streitfeld, interviewed like 50 people. And they were all like, man, we hate this culture. And so everybody in Silicon Valley was like, whoa, what's going on? Well, it turned out that for the tech people, the culture was good. But they hired a
Starting point is 01:13:05 lot of people from retail sector, you know, Macy's, Nordstrom's, that kind of thing. And they're walking into this like, okay, we're working 12 hours. We're doing this kind of thing. We're like grinding it out. Like we're having these super intense meetings. And they were like, whoa, like this is too stressful for me. So, you know, Amazon after that, they had to think about, okay, what's a subculture for the retail guys Amazon after that, they had to think about, okay, what's the subculture for the retail guys? Because that's not going to be exactly the same as what we have on the bigger Amazon. You know, you have some common elements, but not everybody, you know, if you get big enough, not everybody's going to be able to
Starting point is 01:13:36 live in the same world. Can we go back a little bit? Because a lot of people who, you know, we're talking about culture might not know who you are and what you've done in the tech world and how you even got into the tech world. For people that don't know, how did you get into the tech world and how did you get into investing and venture capital and all that? You know, I went to school and I didn't know anything about computers when I got to college. It was a different era, you know, in the early 80s. But I took a class, you know, one of the intro computer science classes. And I was like, whoa. And the thing that got me was there was a proof that a guy by name of Alan Turing did in like,
Starting point is 01:14:11 I think it was like 1941, where he proved that if you built a computer that was what he referred to as Turing complete, then you could never build a machine that was more computational powerful. You could build a faster machine, but no machine could do what that machine couldn't. And so I knew then all that stuff I had like plaque, radio, calculator, you know, word processor, all that stuff going away because there was going to be one machine that rolled them all. And as soon as I realized that, I was like, I got to be in this field. And so I stuck in computer science, and then I built a company.
Starting point is 01:14:51 That's what the hard thing about hard things was. It was hard to build, but I sold it to Hewlett-Packard for $1.6 billion. Now, what company did you build? It's called Opsware. Yeah. And then I started the venture capital firm, because it was so hard for me to build a company. I wanted to create a firm that helped me do that.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Along the way, I did have one stop. I had a very short rap career. Were you a rapper? Yeah. What was your rap name? TikTok. TikTok. Oh, listen, if you trademarked that, you could make money off of that.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Oh, I wasn't good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it TikTok'd the app. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. That's right. I should have traded. It was funny. Charlamagne booed yeah, yeah. Yeah, because of TikTok, the app. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. That's right. Should have traded. It was funny.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Charlamagne booed you, but ask Charlamagne what his rap name was. It was better than TikTok. What was it? Dizzy Van Winkle. I'm not on TikTok. Why was it TikTok? I think TikTok might be better, man. So it was TikTok, so I was strategic.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I was like, a lot of things rhyme with TikTok. I thought you were on TikTok because I always knew what time it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on time. All right, my goodness. All right, we got more with Ben Horowitz when we come back. Don't move. It's The Breakfast time it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on time. All right, my goodness. All right, we got more with Ben Horowitz. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We have Ben Horowitz in the building. He has a new book, What You Do Is Who You Are. Now, when we talk about the tech companies, Elizabeth Warren at one time was trying to break up the tech companies.
Starting point is 01:16:02 She believed that we should break up the tech companies. Do you agree? Well, break them up into what? And then what does she think is going to happen? I guess that's my question. Because so my friend Andy Grove said they asked him a long time ago. They're like, is the microprocessor good or bad? And he goes, that's the wrong question.
Starting point is 01:16:18 The micro that's like asking is steel good or bad. It is. We got to deal with it. And I think, you know, when you talk about social networks, like they're here, we got to deal with them and understand them because they're not going away and you break up Zuckerberg, but what are you going to do about 10 cent, right? Like in China. And then like, if 10 cents, the dominant one, now you're playing by Chinese rules. People don't like Chinese rules. You know, Daryl Morey retweeted something,
Starting point is 01:16:44 you know, like, and deleted it. And like, Daryl Morey retweeted something. Yeah. You know, like, and deleted it. And, like, it's an international incident. Like, they're shutting down the NBA now. Right. And so, you know, that's where it could go. So I don't think that. I think that, like, if you look at Mark Zuckerberg, this is a guy, people don't know this about him, he hasn't taken a salary or a share of stock, like, in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Like, he's just doing it literally because he thinks it's important. He gave away 99% of his ownership in Facebook to like charity, like helping people, you know, beat cancer, all that type of stuff. So like he is actually in it for the right reason and he wants to do the right thing. But like what the right thing is very complicated. Like we never had 2 billion people like in the public square. used to have a thousand people and we had rules for that and you could make people it was easy to regulate yeah it's easy to regulate well it's easy you know like you know to arrest that for like you know like you know taking off his clothes in the public square but like now you got two billion people we don't even know what the rules should be well what do
Starting point is 01:17:41 you think that uh zuckerberg is missing culturally within his company? Like when you see the Facebook employees, you know, calling on him to change the network's controversial rules on political ads, what do you think he's missing within his company? I think it's big. And then his company has kind of gotten bigger than the company mission. You know, now like it's a country, it's like the citizens of Facebook, you know, we got 2 billion people around the world and so forth. I always think, okay, if I was running Facebook, what would I do differently? And I'm like, man, it's complicated.
Starting point is 01:18:10 When you don't have that many people and then now you have, like you said... And let's remember why he built it, right? He built it so you could make friends, share photos, see who the cute girls were, that know, like that kind of thing. Like he didn't think it was going to like move elections.
Starting point is 01:18:28 You know, he didn't have any idea. And so, you know, and the thing is only 15 years old. It's not that deep into it. Like it's probably, I mean, how old is the breakfast club? Nine years. Nine years. So like you imagine, you know, like if all of a sudden, like people were like, man, you guys, the election,
Starting point is 01:18:43 you got Trump elected. You had Kanye on here and you got Trump elected. Shut it down. You'd be like, what the hell happened? We're just trying to tell people about the culture, give them a little knowledge, that kind of thing. So that's really the situation he's in. It just happens so fast. That's what I think they really want to regulate.
Starting point is 01:18:57 They want to regulate his power. He has too much power. You know what I say? No one man should have all that power. Doug Murray has too much power. Yeah, yeah. They want to take power away from him. But that wasn't his intent.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Yeah, well, it was definitely not his intent. And then the power thing is a real thing because you have this interesting tension where you have business guys who, and then you have government guys. And the business guys, like, are trying to build their company bigger and get more powerful. But when they get to a certain level of power, the government guys get very nervous. Yeah. Like if a company's more powerful than the United States,
Starting point is 01:19:35 then that creates an issue. So I think that is also a lot of what's going through the mind of the breakup. It's literally a power struggle. So you were working with Kanye. So what were those conversations like? Did you help him try to build his business? Well, I did. Look, we had a lot of conversations with it. And I would say I tried. I tried to help my friend Kanye build his business. I think like he built it. He built it himself. I wouldn't take credit for that. But, you know, and I think he did a lot of good things. I did it. Look, I had one conversation that was probably helpful when he really wanted to do his shoe deal with Nike because he loved Nike so much.
Starting point is 01:20:13 And I was like, kind of like, it's not even comparable what Adidas is offering you to, you know, because he was getting a real piece of the action. And it really is his business. And it's amazing what he's done. So, like, maybe, like, one conversation might have helped him. But, like, he, you know, people always say, like, Kanye needs better people around him. Like, Kanye makes Kanye's own decisions. It's not the guys around him. They just listen to him.
Starting point is 01:20:37 And I even put myself in that category, you know. You know, you are donating all the proceeds to this book to help people come out of prison, right? And change the culture of prison. What does that look like to you, changing the culture of prison? Well, look. 100% of the proceeds. Yeah, 100% of the proceeds. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:20:55 So you look at my friend Shaka. And you go, is this guy a murderer, like a guy who runs a big prison gang? And you know what happens in those? Or is he bestselling author, leader of the community, like the guy, you know, on the show? And the answer is, you know, like he was a product of his culture. Like he was both, you know, what you do is who you are. Like he was a product of the culture and then he had to change his culture. And like, I think we look at people in prison, like their prison culture, but they don't have to be prison culture.
Starting point is 01:21:25 You can change your culture. And, like, we need to help make prison culture something that's a rehabilitative thing. And then when people come out, we need to help them get into a better culture. Stop calling it a correctional facility if you're not going to really try to correct people. Yeah, it's the opposite of correctional facility. So that's why, you know, I think it's one of the most important things we have to do. We're throwing away geniuses
Starting point is 01:21:47 and we're hurting ourselves and we need to stop that. All right. Well, we appreciate you for joining us. We'll get this. Ben Horowitz, what you do is who you are, how to create your business culture.
Starting point is 01:21:58 All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me on the show. Thank you. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Listen up. It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The Rumor Report. Gossip. With Angela Yee. It's The Rumor Report. The Breakfast Club. Well, Kim Kardashian is trying to get somebody not to get executed. Rodney Reed. I'm sure you guys
Starting point is 01:22:23 have seen this trending on social media. Now, she spoke with Reed from Death Row last week. His scheduled killing is for November 20th, but she believes that there's new witnesses and evidence to exonerate him and also implicate the real killer. She tweeted out, please, Governor Abbott, how can you execute a man when since his trial, substantial evidence that would exonerate Rodney Reed has come forward and even implicates the other person of interest, I urge you to do the right thing.
Starting point is 01:22:47 He was convicted for the murder of Stacey Stites in Bastrop, Texas, where cops initially said he had raped, assaulted, and strangled her to death. Now, he's been saying that he's innocent for the past 20 years, and a former inmate has also claimed to know the real murderer. So they said the guy is named Arthur. A guy named Arthur Snow filed a statement with the court saying that Stites own fiance, who served time for a different crime, actually confessed to him while behind bars that he killed her for sleeping around. And so there is somebody else that is being implicated. Now, Meek Mill tweeted out 16 days left and he will be executed for a crime he didn't commit. Get more info here. Rihanna tweeted out one click. Sign this petition. T.I. signed the petition as well.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Busta Rhymes, Questlove said there's an innocent man on death row with mere days before his execution. Please take time out to sign this petition. So you guys can get that information when you go on social media and you can also sign that petition as well and make your voices heard. Absolutely. Where can they sign that petition? Is it Kim K's page?
Starting point is 01:23:46 All these people have tweeted about it. So if you look for LL, if you look for TI, all of those people, you can go to freerodneyreid.com. That's R-E-E-D, freerodneyreid.com, and get more information there as well. Okay. All right, Irv Gotti was on with Wendy Williams, and there's all this talk about his alleged past with Ashanti.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Now, one thing that did happen on the Wendy Williams show is he did call her out, and that is for her dating while still being married. Listen to this. Why is it that if a man gets married, a man and woman get married, if they're separated, they're not going to be together. They're not staying together. I can't go mess with other girls until I sign a divorce paper? Why? Why?
Starting point is 01:24:28 No, yes, you can. Okay, then what's the problem? I'm going through a divorce right now. That's when I was going to swing it back to Wendy, because I said, yo, you ain't get a divorce yet, and I seen you swerving. Now, the one thing about that interview I would say with Irv, what you got to realize with Irv, Irv is a talker,
Starting point is 01:24:43 so she kept trying to cut Irv off, go with commercials. Irv was like, no, I'm not finished what I'm saying. Let me finish. Let me get my point across first. Right. So two of them, right? Absolutely. But yes, he definitely, he did make a good point with that, though.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I'll give him that. He did. All right. 21 Savage, he's been having some issues with his career, and that's because he cannot leave the United States. And he still doesn't have a court date. They said the immigration courts in Atlanta are so overcrowded. Some people have court dates for 2022, but he hasn't even gotten his court date yet. So how can you resolve things if you can't even get to court to find out what's going on?
Starting point is 01:25:16 He's facing deportation. Like I said, he can't leave the country. His ability to make a living is impaired and all of that. So he's been really going through it. He hasn't even been able to get a work permit for eight months, so he couldn't even work domestically. He finally got one last month, so now he finally can work in the U.S., but, you know, it's just a lot.
Starting point is 01:25:33 That really is crippling for what you have to do for a living. It's very sad. You know, a lot of artists don't really make a lot of money off of their album sales. They make money off of tours and going and doing shows. So the fact that he couldn't even leave Atlanta, he couldn't even leave Georgia to do shows. So he just got that last month. And, you know, he has to make money.
Starting point is 01:25:49 He got to feed his family. He got to pay for house notes and car notes. And he does so much for the community. So I'm glad he's at least being able to work in the U.S. But, you know, he got to be able to travel and make that money. All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee, and that is your rumor report. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Thank you, Ms. Yee. Now, Revolt, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else, the People's Choice Mix is up next. Get your request in right now, 800-585-1051. Let me know what you want to hear. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. E.J., Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
Starting point is 01:26:16 We are The Breakfast Club. Let me shout out to Atlanta and New York City. You know I do my seminars all across the country. So Atlanta, we pretty much have no more seats left, which is pretty dope. And one that we're doing in New York, we're actually doing it at the Jacob Javits Center. I've been to so many different things. I've been to car shows there. I've been to toy shows
Starting point is 01:26:34 there. I've been to so many different things. So the fact that we're able to do it at the Jacob Javits Center, our last seminar of the year, I'm very excited about, which happens in December. So for all that information, you can just click the link in my bio. Now, yeah, you in Houston tonight? Yes, I'm in Houston about, which happens in December. So for all that information, you can just click the link in my bio. Now, yeah, you are in Houston tonight? Yes, I'm in Houston.
Starting point is 01:26:49 We got Lip Service Live out here. So this is going to be really good. I'm here in Houston for the next couple of days. Lip Service Live is tonight with Plies, with Slim Thug, with Carl Crawford. And then tomorrow, I'll be out here doing Own Every Piece. So that's another event that I have out here in Houston. So, yeah, I'm here for the next couple of days, and I'm happy about that. And what you get into, Charlamagne?
Starting point is 01:27:09 Minding my business. You know, the Jason Mitchell conversation is very interesting, though. Why is that? It's just interesting because even when, you know, people call up here and they're like, yo, why you ain't press Jason Mitchell? I feel like when you're saying you're pressing somebody, it's kind of like you think they're guilty, right? You would only press somebody if you think they're lying to you. Correct.
Starting point is 01:27:28 I don't think that's correct. I don't think that's the way to do things. I just don't. I don't think that's the way to do things when you're interviewing somebody. You know what I'm saying? You bring them up here, you let them tell the side of their story, and people form their own opinions from that. Right. Pressing means that you think that this person is guilty, and I don't think that you should approach a situation like that
Starting point is 01:27:48 unless you know for sure this person isn't telling you the truth. Right. So you don't think you've ever pressed anybody? I'm sure I have, but I didn't know any better. Do you know what I'm saying? When you're young, like, I don't understand why we act like when you know better, you shouldn't do better. Like, I'm supposed to be the same way forever?
Starting point is 01:28:03 That's the problem. It's people out here that's not evolving. Like, I like the evolution of my life. Alright, well, when we come back, positive note, don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee,
Starting point is 01:28:17 Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note? Yes, indeed. I want to tell everybody out there, man, embrace uncertainty. Alright? Some of the most beautiful chapters in our lives won't have titles until much later. Breakfast club, bitches! Y'all finished or y'all done?
Starting point is 01:28:33 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my god.
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