The Breakfast Club - Donald Trump comes for Gayle King + Does Kamala have a responsibility to remain political? ++ BET suspends award shows?
Episode Date: August 5, 2025Gayle King has been labelled “too woke” by the right and Trump. The future of Gayle’s position at CBS has been the center of headlines lately , although her contract does currently r...un through May of next year. Loren also breaks down Kamala Harris’s interview with Stephen Colbert and calls for her to continue to serve the people. And lastly, a conversation about BET suspending the Hip Hop Awards as well as the Soul Train Awards!!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Now, in this episode of the latest, getting right on into some things, because we got some places to go and some things to talk about.
We're going to start off with more talk show news, talk show Donald Trump.
And y'all know, we cover everything here at the latest.
I'm not like a heavy political, politic conversationaler, I don't know, is that a word?
Basically, I don't always talk about politics here, and you guys know that it's more like
pop culture trending topics, but more lately, Trump been coming on over to our side.
So we've been talking about him here on the latest.
Last episode, we talked a bit about Donald Trump because not even a bit, we took the whole
episode and we talked about Donald Trump and his spat with Charlemagne.
now today I'm back again with another one because listen Trump is never scared okay
Trump is always out here shooting his shot at all of the outrage and just stirring the pot
so Trump tweeted out gales king career sorry not tweeted let me get that right because
remember Trump he got taken off of X then when he came back he uses it but like he really
use, he really uses his platform truth social the most. So Trump posting on true social,
Gail King's career is over. She should have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had the
courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strength. And he posted this because he was actually
reposting and bringing light to a New York Post article. This New York Post article was exclusive
that the New York Post did and that actually dropped earlier today where they're reporting based on
sources that Gail King's career at CBS during CBS mornings is looking murky.
And the reason why they're saying that this is happening according to their source
is because they're reporting that the higher ups at the network want to move away from
polarizing coverage.
Basically, you know, coverage that is too woke, according to what, you know, Trump and
the Trump followers-esque will deem as woke.
So, for instance, one of the examples that they give here in the article is that one of the winners from RuPaul's Drag Race was on CBS Mornings with Gil King.
And the winner, his name is Bob the drag queen.
Now, he was publicizing his first novel, Harriet Tubman Live in Concert, right?
So he came on the show to do so.
According to the New York Post, the CBS Morning's website described the book as a gender bending story where the historical,
icon appears in modern day America to tell her story through a hip hop album. Now, this is a story
that, you know, it was previously reported by the Post, but they're just using it to insert it into
this, the show an example of what the network execs are trying to get away from. So they point
out this episode of the show because they have a quote in here from another source of the New York Post
does that alleges that this source told the New York Post that the audience of CBS Mornings
does not want woke. They do not like progressive and provide.
blockative bookings. Now, we fast forward to them pointing to Bob the Drag Queen from
Rupal's Drag Grace, who was on the show, promoting a book about Harriet Tubman and Harriet Tubman
finding herself in modern day time and just telling her story through hip-hop. So they're like,
they're talking about things that we don't want. We know that, you know, they are very,
even when they do have political conversations and the guests that they bring on,
these political conversations and the guests do not run away from being very vocal about how
they feel about President Trump agreeing or not. And I'm sure this source or whoever, anybody that's
deeming CBS Mornings as a woke platform would say that a lot of the guests there are normally
critical of President Trump. But you guys see the pattern that's going on here, right? Now with Stephen
Colbert in the late show, when that happened, CBS pointed to money, finances. They talk numbers.
With Gail King here in this New York Post article, and again, all of this stuff from the New York Post is
sourced. Okay, so it's not directly coming from anyone. CBS declined to comment to the New York
Post when the New York Post reached out on this article, although they did comment on Stephen
Colbert's cancellation of his show. The New York Post points out in this article, they
alleged that in the past three weeks, Gail King and her co-host lost between 20% and 30% of
their audience versus last year, and the advertiser coveted 25 to 54-year-old demographic,
according to Nilsen. And Nilsen, for those of you guys who don't know, it's just a site or it's a
database that is supposed to be, you know, very accurate when collecting numbers as far as ratings
and people and counts. So they're pointing to a study by Nielsen. They do not say when this
study was last updated, but they do use it in this article, which again came out earlier today. It is
August 5th, 2025. And then they go into mentioning that Gell King recently signed an extension for between
$13 million and $15 million of her contract that runs through next May, according to this
well-placed source that they're pending this whole report on. Now, they also point out,
and like I said, y'all are seeing a pattern here, they also point out that that is the same month
that CBS plans to pull the plug on the late night show with Stephen Colbert.
And then once this report comes out, Donald Trump then goes over the truth social, amplifies it,
and he says,
Gail King's career is over.
She should have stayed with her belief in Trump.
She never had the courage to do so.
No talent, no ratings, no strength.
Now, Donald Trump has also come out about Kimmel.
He tweeted when Colbert's show was announced
to have been canceled.
He has been very vocal against,
I mean, look, we just talked about him
having the conversation in the back and forth
that he had with Charlemagne
because of Charlemagne's appearance on Fox News with Donald Trump's daughter-in-law,
Laura Trump, you guys see the pattern here.
I don't even have to say it.
You see the pattern here.
And I think at this point for me, just in watching all of this, I was telling a friend the
other day when all the Charlemagne stuff happened.
And I've said this to Charlemagne too, even prior to the Trump situation.
Like, you know, because Breakfast Club, I don't know about any other platform.
I know about Breakfast Club because I worked there, but because Breakfast Club
has a variety of opinions. Like, we have conversations with Laura Trump. We have conversations with
people that might not agree with what I personally agree with. Like, I don't agree with a lot of
the things, the majority of things, honestly, the whole lifestyle of Donald Trump for the most part.
But I'm never opposed to having a conversation with people who are across the table.
I also feel like, and I agree with the sentiment of the president is the president at the time,
and you just do whatever you can best to make sure that that person in that office is,
is, you know, being the best face and ambassador for what it is that the people need,
no matter where do people sit on whatever side of the table.
But it's getting scary.
It's getting real tricky out here.
And as a person in the media who, you know, y'all know me, like I like to lean toward truth.
If I can't figure out who the source is or source it myself or find it to be fact myself,
I don't like to touch it.
I'm very careful about certain things.
But I think it's getting scary because it's like if you have an opinion at all,
it seems like that leans away from what our current administration believes should be the
conversation or should be done, it gets tough out here for you. And I will say, you know, with
Gil King, even having to tell somebody in the media space like, oh, be careful about you having
an honest opinion about something. Now defamation and things of that nature are completely
different because legally there are certain things that you just can and can't do when you
are in this space because your audience is counting on you to be transparent, to be as neutral as
you can be or to be able to define when you're not doing certain things. Like when you're giving
your opinion about something and you want it to be known as your opinion, your audience trust that
you will give your opinion in a way that they know as an opinion versus something that they
know or can take and repeat as fact. Right. But just being able to say how you feel and not
agreeing being something that like makes you think, yo, will I have a job again? It is getting so
scary and it seems like it's such a pattern it's like stories break about like ratings and shows not
doing well and then Donald Trump comes and he amplifies those stories and he has something to say about
what you're doing how you're doing it you know and listen this is not new I mean Donald Trump has
always operated in the space as more of like a celebrity in chief so he's paying attention to
what's happening he's responding to what's happening but now it's starting to result in things not
being there anymore. Stephen Colbert
Show not being there anymore. Joy
Reed, not being on MSNBC anymore.
Those things get scary a bit.
Especially when you're sitting in my position. I'm like, yo,
knock, knock, knock, hello. I'm new here.
Just begin building.
Please don't tear down everything I need somewhere to be at.
You know what I mean? Like, and I was watching
Kamala Harris. She did, speaking to Stephen Colbert.
Kamala Harris did Stephen Colbert show, the late show.
And it's her first interview since losing the presidency and now she
has this new book, 107 days, which talks about the time that she had to run for president.
And it was a very good interview.
It was an interview about everything from what she's been doing now to what her plans are moving forward.
And the news had come out that she did not plan to run for governor and that, you know,
she had this book coming out.
And then she goes on Stephen Corbair and she says this.
I believe, and I always believed that as fragile as our democracy is,
our systems would be strong enough
to defend
our most fundamental principles
and I think right now
that they're not as strong as they
need to be and I just don't want to
for now I don't want to go back in the system
I want to travel the country
I want to listen to people I want to talk with people
and I don't want it to be transactional
where I'm asking for their vote
now I don't agree with Kamala at all
I understand. I think what she's trying to say. I think what she's trying to say is that,
and I feel like it's a cover up, to be honest with you. I'll get to that. I think what she's trying
to say is that you don't have to be a president, a governor, a mayor, you know, an elected
official to be able to go out in your community, touch people, work for change, do things that affect
people, do things that get changed, do things that get people what they need. And that's where
she wants to live now. Like, she doesn't, she's not running away from the smoke, but she's
approaching the smoke differently, you know, she's not tripping off and not being an elected
official and all of the things that come with it. And she talked about, you know, because
when Stephen Corbara opened the interview, the first thing he asked her was, you know,
have you gotten some sleep? How are you? Let's take a listen to her answer. It's nice to see
again. It's great to be. First of all, you look rested.
Yeah. I'm happy for you.
Thank you. How are you doing?
Well, oh, I'm fine. I'll get plenty of rest in June.
Now, so to hear her say that, right, she's had some time to reflect and I guess really put into, you know, and really prioritize what's important for her at this point in her life, whether that's being with family, getting to spend time with her husband, her nieces who she talks so much about, and just not being in the eye of all of the scrutiny. Like, I'm thinking about Gail King. I'm thinking about Joy Reid, right? And I mean, Stephen Colbert is unfortunate that his show is going off air, especially because.
it doesn't make any sense and it feels like censoring but I'm thinking about these black women
in this space because I can identify with them of course I can because I'm a black woman in a
media space I can identify with them a lot differently and one of the first things I thought about
was man like you have to deal with people caring about what you wear how you wear what your hair
look like what your makeup look like are you overdressed are you underdress the body type
what language you use what language you don't use are you smiling who are you standing next to who's
this man that you're seated next to are you dating him are you like there are so many things that just
women in general have to deal with especially when you're in a spotlight and then black women who
aren't afraid to speak out when they fill away about something when they don't agree with something
who aren't afraid to stand next to presidential candidates and now on top of all the things that
society and just people in general and I feel like you know you talk about being woke I don't want to sound
well either because that's not my thing i just like to i just like to say how i feel and how i feel right
now is like yo it's so much other things that you deal with on a day-to-day trying to figure out life
career and all the things and don't get me wrong i'm of course a lot younger than Kamala harris
Kamala harris has had an amazing career she you know is living her life she's not complaining about
things that's not what this that clip was but i'm just thinking about all of the microaggressions
and just the different silent battles that she's had to face,
and we'll honestly continue to have to face for the rest of her life
because she's Kamala Harris, who was once vice president,
and she's a black woman vice president,
and she ran for the presidency, and she did not win it,
and she would have been the first black woman president,
and just all these things, right,
that she's going to have to answer and speak to
and never be able to get around for the rest of her life,
that she then has to couple with everything that, like,
she was just, once you come out the womb and you walk up,
baby, your first flick of the hair as a black woman, you got to learn how to deal with issue and
society into people. So then you bring all this extra spotlight and, you know, politics is such a
heavy thing to be in. And I just can't imagine. So I understand where she's coming from, but I don't
agree with her. I don't feel like, I do feel like everybody has a place in change. But I do feel
like there are certain people who get the privilege or the honor to have, you know,
elected official status. And I don't think that those people should ever back away from
trying. And it sounds to me like, and listen, maybe I'm reading in between the lines here.
Y'all let me know what y'all took from it. Get in the comments. Get outside in the tweets.
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How you guys felt.
It sounded to me like as well arrested as she said that she was and, you know, as much as
she's probably been able to, you know, prioritize and just think about what's important and
what she don't want to deal with no more in her life.
Man, I know that feeling.
In her life, I think that there's a responsibility that you can't ever escape as a black
person.
And I think that she sounds tired still.
Like she's tired.
She sounds fed up
But she's making it look good
She's making it sound good
And we as black women do that all the time
Man, we do that all the time
And we're so good at it
Because for so long and in different generations
Like you're literally taught that
Like you're taught to turn a house into a home
You're taught to nurture
You're taught to do so much
That pours into other people and other things
And when I just told y'all like
Man I felt that
Like she's probably just tired of the bullshit
Like if I'm being honest with y'all
I get it
I think we need her in the position. And I think that I don't understand where her purpose goes
from here, if I'm being honest with you. I think that no matter how tired she might feel right now,
no matter what happened in that office, no matter, you know, I'm sure she's tired of being asked
about why she didn't tell the truth about President Biden and all the things. No matter how much
that is getting on your nerves, your purpose is your purpose. And I just don't see her getting
away from public service. I can't. And I honestly think we need people.
like Kamala Harris in public service, but we need people like Kamala Harris in a way where
Kamala Harris is able to be the person that we watch in these interviews who, yo, when Kamala
Harris sat down with Oprah during her presidential campaign, I was like, if she could be like this
everywhere she went, we good, especially in the White House, like we good, because this is what
we wanted from her in the White House when we voted for Biden. I voted for Biden because
Kamala Harris was the VP on the ticket, and I thought that she'd be able to keep things in
check. I don't feel like she was empowered the way that she should have been. And I mean, people
say, well, she's just vice president, but we all know what the, we know what it was given.
We know why we went so hard for Biden in that election.
And I really don't think she was in power the way that she should have.
I felt like she was put in the shadow of everything Bidenomics when she went to run.
And I feel like by her not being able to come out and just really speak how she wants to speak
and do what she wants to do and tell the truth and have to be loyal to the Democratic Party,
which again, I'm not blaming her for it because as able to.
black woman. I understand that, you know, sometimes even going against the, even when you want to go up
against the fire and stick it out, continue to be in presidential offices and all these things and all the
things of the nature, you don't have the resources you're supposed to have to do so, to be able to actually
do it where it's effective and it's not just a freaking fight and mental tirade of like you're breaking
yourself down every single day. So I understand her and I get where she's coming from, but I don't agree that
she can be as impactful.
Now, she can have impact. Don't get me wrong.
And I'm not taking away from what she'll do because, look, I'm not out here public serving
every single day. So people that are, I feel like that's not even my place to kind of like
you're no critique or talk about as much. But in just, you know, for take of this conversation,
I think we need her. She talked about having people in certain places when it comes to this
whole government thing, this whole politic thing. I think we need her.
inside of the system that she says she don't want to be a part of for a little minute.
We need her there, for sure.
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on my way over
to film the show today.
Because Scott Mills
from BET
sat down.
with Billboard. And I'm pulling up the article right now. When we talk about resources, people
always have a conversation around BET and what BET does, what they do well, what they don't do
well, what we need, what we should see, all of the things. So Scott Mills has been doing some
interviews. VET is celebrating 45 years of the network and being one of the leading black media
platform. So Scott Mills is the CEO at BET, you know, sat down with Billboard to talk about a pledge to
continue to always be a leading media platform for black people and for black things and
black content. Now, during this interview, the journalist asks Scott Mills, can you confirm
the chatter that two of the annual shows and BT Awards franchise, the Soul Train and Hipop Awards,
so Soul Train Awards and separately the BT Hip Hop Awards, are no longer going to be presented.
So they're done. Are they done or not? And he says, it's less about them being no longer
and more about our team having to reimagine them
for this changing media landscape
that we find ourselves in.
I think that we're going to see more people
taking franchises and saying
this might have started on linear television
but now I'm going to move it to another space.
Do I move it to streaming or do I make it another platform?
So for BETE-T linear, we have suspended
the Soul Train and Hip Hop Awards show.
BETT is announcing it.
They have suspended the BETT Hip-Hop Awards
and the BETT Soul Trend Awards.
Y'all, this is insane.
Because suspended is suspended
it doesn't mean indefinite.
But I do think that there is something to having to take it off of TV
to have to figure out what to do with it versus it being such a vehicle
and be built up enough where it stays on linear until you make that transition
just because you wanted to move forward strong to match where we are right now,
which is what Scott Mills is saying.
To me, this sounds like a roundabout answer to say,
it's not doing well on linear TV.
And we need to figure out something else for it because they are coveted shows.
And something across digital is a lot easier to execute as far as like, you know,
keeping something on linear, you need certain numbers, you need advertising dollars, you need,
you need money, you still going to need coins to produce an award show on digital.
Don't get me wrong.
But to have it across linear TV, especially where it's taking up a slot where advertisers
might want to put something else or might be asking for something that is reaching more
people or a larger, stronger demographic, that is a big, say, like this is a big state.
that Scott Mills is making.
I will say, I feel like what BET has done with the NAACP Image Awards over the years,
even like last year, the show has gotten, production is amazing, the quality, and that goes
into the dollars that are being put behind it.
I love to see the celebrities showing up for the show as well.
Like, the NWACP Image Awards have had some pretty big shows these last couple years.
Now, the second question that journalist followed up with was, they asked about the 2025
BT Awards, viewership dropped almost 50% in the key demographic, which is 18 to 49 demo from last
year's show. Are there concerns about longevity of that longstanding show? So he said, Scott Mills says
viewership was down. However, the cable ecosystem is smaller today. And that's what I'm saying by
when he's talking about taking a Soul Train awards off of linear TV. That's why to me it's like,
okay, this is saying something because it is very hard to get something on linear TV today. And it's not
because people aren't watching. I mean, yes, less people are watching live TV. People are
watching things on streaming. People are bulk watching things. You know, you have the Netflix's,
Amazon Primes. BT Plus was created. That's one of their vehicles because people are streaming.
But there are still pockets of television where you do gather people and you get numbers. But it's
not as easy anymore because it's smaller. There's less people watching. So you're fighting
hard. You're fighting very, very hard for that viewership, especially to maintain it.
year to year to year to year.
So he says, yeah, that's just the reality of it.
You know, the ecosystem is way smaller today.
But he says, you know, he gave a shout out to Connie Orlando, who is the EVP, the executive
vice president of specials music programming and music strategy and her creative team, who
delivered an amazing 25th anniversary show for BET.
They did the 106 and Park anniversary during the show.
I was in LA for the BET Awards, and it felt so good.
Like to hear that BT is struggling in the space of award shows at all, it's kind of disheartening
because being at the BET Awards this year, it felt like the old days, like big stars were there,
people dressed up, it was classy, it was an event, it felt like a night of regal and of like black
excellence.
So it made you feel like, okay, we're back.
Like the art war shows, like, you know, we didn't fully, it's not like it shut the whole
world down but for real for real it did like everybody was talking about the bt awards everybody was talking
about how it looked how it felt all the things so he's saying look that show just went down and it went
amazing so i want to give her credit for that but because this was one of the best bt awards he says that he's
ever seen so he's saying the ecosystem has changed and that is probably one of the issues but at the
same time let's not just lean on that they did move the night of the show now i'm going to tell you
got something. Every year since I can remember, the BET Awards has been on Sunday night,
which was, it was a very big deal that they moved it. But this was a huge year for the BET
Awards. Like there was so, Kevin Hart hosted it. You had Drewski and Kaysanat doing live streaming
from it. There was just a lot that went down during the BET Awards this year. But he is saying
that in 2026, they're going to move back to Sunday, which I think makes sense because the BET
awards are all surrounded by the BET experience and people, it's kind of like almost like Essence Festival.
You know Essence Festival happens around 4th of July.
It's like the family reunion.
You know every year around what time your family reunion is happening.
With the BET Awards, it's the same thing with the timing.
But also, too, one of the only reasons why I wouldn't be mad about, because again, we're talking
about resources, right?
We went from Gil King, who is few of many black faces on, you know, morning, daytime television,
cable network TV.
We're talking about Kamala Harris, who is one of one in her space and just resources in a
fight that it is. And then we get to BT in that conversation, which is crazy because, you know,
CBS and that whole big merger just happened. And you talk about resources. Scott Mills is, I'm sure,
behind the scenes having to have conversations about what does a Trump administration, CBS Paramount
merger, you know, look like because of all the sky dance stuff. He said in this interview that he's not
really worried about it. And he, you know, he's not going to speak to that. But man, if I'm him, you have to
look at what's happening. And if so, if you are looking at what's happening, you're basically
looking at the fact that like all the edgy, hard conversations for us by us, Trump ain't going to
go for that for too long whatsoever. So what I was going to just say is, like, when you're thinking
about resources, if resources are thinning out in certain spaces, I say less laser in and
focus. So instead of maybe, you know, and this is just, this is just me thinking as a viewer and
as a content producer, it's like, okay, maybe we take the Soul Train Awards to digital and we make
it something that is a smaller vehicle, but we lean in the hip hop awards, but we lean in even
heavier to the BET Awards and make that the thing, right? That is the big one. That is the one
that's on TV, you know, and everything else is a smaller vehicle, and they all, yeah, like one
hand shills the other, so they all lead into each other. Maybe they do it that way. There just needs
to be a connectivity of sorts. I don't know. I always say a bunch of things I know, and
be like, I don't know, right? But things are just different, y'all. The media landscape right now
is just different. My grandmother always says to me, the world is going to come to an in soon that Jesus
is on his way back. Anytime anything happens, like, she goes to the grocery store and they don't
got her water. My grandmother buys deer park. They don't got her deer park water, baby. The end of times
is coming. I went to the grocery store. They ain't got my waters no more. You need to start saving
your money. Y'all know how y'all grandma's talk, especially if your grandmother's a black woman.
you know y'all know how they talk my grandmother has been telling me to prepare for the end of times
for the last 10 years I am finally at the age and I don't know if it's just because of everything that
is happening or if I really do feel like this maybe it's a mixture of the two I'm finally at the age
when she calls me and say baby it's the end of times I say you know what you're right what you
told me to do again instead of just being like mama what are you talking about I it's like
the things that I'm watching happening right now
I never, it's like something out of a sitcom or a movie.
I never thought that I would see, honestly, like from our president and a lot of things
that are happening with the administration, you know, people lose jobs every day, unfortunately.
But, man, my friends in entertainment right now, BT did major layoffs.
I have friends in every creative industry from music to fashion that, like, are just losing
jobs left and right.
My old job, like where I used to work, TMZ.
They did huge firings as well, and I never thought that was happening.
Shows were getting canceled, left and right when I was in that newsroom.
And one thing Harvey was always good about was ensuring us that we would still be working because of the vehicle and how it goes.
And, I mean, it's just, it's crazy to see it.
It's crazy to see it.
It's crazy to think about it.
And again, that's what I'm like, yo, I understand commonly being like, yo, I don't want no parts of this.
Take me on vacation.
Read my book.
I'll show up in the communities with my Chuck Taylor's on.
and my laugh and my he-he-hi-ha-ha-giggle.
But baby, life is too short
and it's coming to an end anyway.
Let's live our best lives.
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